Choosing the Best Underlay For Laminate & Wood Flooring
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2019
- We discuss some of the best underlays available for wood and laminate flooring.
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Thank you, good simple explanation of the topic
Great video, very informative, thank you !
Would you recommend removing the cheap/foam backing from laminate or LVT planks and using a better underlay?
Also what is the key to having laminate/LVT feel solid? Feel almost like it’s glued down? I’ve seen some that feels this way. Is that the underlay?
Lastly great video, well made. And props for answering all comments!
Enjoyed your instructive video. Very helpful :) I'm installing engineered wood over the original timber floorboards in the ground floor hallway of our Victorian property. For the underlay I need good levelling & heat insulation with some degree of sound insulation ... so I'm swaying between the Acousta 3mm (Timbertech) and Techni-board Insulating underlays. My understanding is that a DPM is not advised for a timber sub-floor, so would that rule out using the Acousta 3mm as it includes an 'aluminium vapour barrier'? Maybe I'm confusing this vapour barrier with a DPM but would appreciate your advice. Many thanks.
Timber tech 2 good for underfloor heating in a new house with level concrete subfloor? Was going to put down good quality laminate 20mq or so.
Hi, very helpful video. Could you suggest the most ideal product for a room where half is a ply sub floor and the other half screed/concrete. I wish to glue the floor down and achieve a little heat isolation . Any advice would be greatly appreciated .
Hi,
Great tips thanks. I’ve got some hard wood flooring and have a concrete floor to lay on. You said to stick it down directly but is there an underlay you can recommend if I’d like to reduce sound and heat loss?
Hi, thanks for making this video, so much great content on UA-cam!
I am replacing a laminate floor and intend to put electric under floor heating in under the laminate. What advice do you have re the insulation? I don't know yet what the sub floor is, but it is a residential development of flats, built in 2001 and we are on the 2nd floor, so I am guessing it will be timber. With energy prices so high we are keen to insulate effectively so that we minimise the cost of the underfloor heating. Do you have any idea how much energy you save by 10mm v 6mm? Or whether some materials are more effective at preventing heat loss than others? I don't yet know how much space we have, but I would appreciate any guidance you can give on optimising for energy loss/thickness. I don't have an unlimited budget, but think that insulating as well as possible would be a good investment.
Thanks!
Great video. I am laying an engineered oak board on top of a suspended wood floor which is very cold underneath. What would be the best underlay to keep the cold underneath and the room above as warm as possible. Would it be the techniboard as it has the highest tog rating?
Just wondering what would you underlay would you recommend for laying carpet over concrete subfloor? One that offers a built in vapour/moisture barrier, sound dampening and insulation whilst maintaining average thickness and density for residential properties?
What is the best thermal insulation underlays for timber joisted? We are thinking of putting engineered or laminated flooring on top. This is for a 2nd floor of an Victorian house.
I am looking for an underlay for a cold concrete floor in an old property. I note that the underlays for concrete floors are both insulating and suitable for underfloor heating, but isn't that a contradiction because if it was insulating, wouldn't it lessen the transmission of temperature from the concrete floor through the barrier underlay? Which underlay would you recommend to prevent cold rising from an unheated old concrete floor? Thanks
great video thank you - we are using engineer wood flooring for a small space (10m2). our builder wants to put it with adhesive / glue down. he needs 2mm underlay, what underlay would you recommend?
hi
what would you recommend for a 3 bed house, for the hall way and into the kitchen, so many different types of flooring these days- LVT, hard wood, engineered wood, whats best and not loads of money?
I am looking at a parquet floor over a wooden suspended floor in a Victorian house. Method for installation would be glue down, can I apply this directly on the techniboard or do I still need an OSB/plywood subfloor? And would you recommend a dpm?
Hi,
Im planning on putting down an engineered wood flooring onto a concrete sub floor. There are small (3-5mm) imperfections over a the length of 1.5 to 2 meters. Is there a product you would reccommend in this circumstance?
Thanks
I'm looking to replace the floors in an old bungalow with an attic conversion. Can you let me know what kind of underlay would be best for the concrete floor and the upstairs.
i am building a 30x30 home gym and intend to install laminent over concrete. looking for best underlay for shock absorbtion qualities as there will be lots of plyometrics jumping rope and such. thanks in advance
I plan to lay laminate underlay on a concrete subfloor. I purchased Solid Gold underlay 5mm, but the fitter said to get fibreboard as it would be better on concrete in terms of heat insulation. Is that right, also will it need damp proof membrane if going with the fibreboard.
I would like to lay an engineered floor over existing uneven floorboards. I need an underlay that helps with leveling, like Techni-board. How should I install it to eliminate the unevenness? Do I need to overlay the boards?
Hi, I'm looking for the best sound deadening underlay for laminate in a flat, to keep from bothering my downstairs neighbors. Which one would you recommend?
Does Techniboard underlay have built in moisture membrane?
We are wanting to place a laminated wood floor over a tiled, chipboard floor. The tiles have been there 30 years and all are still solidly attached. Around the tiles (about 8"x8" square) there is a depression where they are grouted. Which underlay would you suggest please?
Id like to lay an engineered or laminate floor on top of a suspended wood floor which is very cold underneath. What would be the best underlay to keep the cold underneath and the room above as warm as possible? Thanks
Hello,
I live in an old house with wooden floors upstairs and downstairs. Unfortunately, the upstairs floor area (in certain parts) has been badly treated in the past - I think by workmen using indiscrimminate methods of accessing wiring and pipes. The result is that parts of my upstairs floor is uneven and feels insecure under foot. There is a thin carpet covering. What I want to do is roll back the carpet, place some sort of high-density tiles or covering and replace the carpet. Could you recommend a good product which should make the floor feel solid and firm underfoot?
I live in Dublin Ireland and I am assuming that your products (which sound great) can be purchased in Dublin or that I can, at least, purchase them online.
Also, do they need to be glued or screwed down or might there be sufficient traction to hold them in place?
Thank you for your help.
Hi can you give me a some suggestions, i going to put LVT on my basement. Do I have to use underlay. Which underlay fit to LVT?
I'm having 'engineered' wood flooring (15mm thick) over a concrete (under-floor/water heated system). I have chosen a 3mm foil back laminate and wood flooring underlay, as recommended by the supplier. My builder says, this is wrong. I should be fitting a 1-2mm foam underlay, because the foil stop the underfloor heating coming through. He says the foil prevent the heat rising, and it goes back into the concrete. Can anyone give me some advice please?
thanks.
Hi what is best for vinyl in concrete floor condo
What's the best onto a chipboard? Wooden fibre?
I have a new build passive house.
Can you please tell me what underlay would be suitable for a 12mm laminate floor going on top of cem screed floor with underfloor heating ?
What’s the best underlay for insulation.
It’s for home use, it’s chipboard flooring that is going to have luxury vinyl on top. At the moment we are renovating and the floors are exposed and letting in a lot of cold.
I am having engineered wood flooring (12.7mm) over concrete subfloor that is rather uneven in certain areas. I am not putting any heating elements, but want to insulate from the very cold concrete floors. This is for residential use. What would you recommend to use for insulation/leveling?
Hi, I have a concrete subfloor which as no built in dpm as it's quite an old property. I'm wanting laminate flooring down but unsure which underlay to choose. Please help?
Hi I’m wondering if you have had any problems laying 8mm laminate on 5mm fibre board, I’ve had some gapping and on the joints, the flooring is hydroclick 8mm herringbone laminate? Apparently the seller have said the underlay is wrong for the product
Is Roberts a good underlay?
Which is the best underlay for sound. We saw few of my friends installed 2 mm underlay but they are dealing with sound while walking. Can you please suggest best underlay for sound
Hi, i will be installing engineered wood floor on concrete floor, few fitters told me that i need a cork underlay, another guy told me that I should install plywood as underlay.
Whats the best solution?
P.S floor will be glued to the underlay
On your site the Fibre Board is not compatible with LVT flooring, why is that? I want to install LVT on a wooden floor and was planning to use some 5mm ply to level it out a bit. Would that not work?
Great video BTW. I'd like to add an OSB/plywood with rubber tiles over my concrete garage subfloor with a DPM. Can the plywood floor be floated over the underlayment or would it have to be secured by either screwing or gluing? Also, which underlayment would be strong enough for a car while ideally adding a little insulation and sound dampening? Thanks!
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 great, thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!
Can I double up on underlay
I have a conservatory with a concrete base and tiled flooring, it gets very cold we were thinking of adding wooden laminate/engineered flooring, can i put it on top of the tiling and if so what insulation would be best to use?
Hi Sunil. For any concrete subfloor, you will need an underlay with a moisture barrier. Onto tiles, its important that they are soundly fixed and level. Traffic excel is a good quality all rounder that offers some insulation, leveling and works on concrete. Here's a link. www.woodfloorwarehouse.co.uk/traffic-excel-underlay
Hi, I'm fitting an engineered wood floor over upstairs timber floorboards.
They floor is pretty level as a whole, but some boards are bowed meaning there's a few mm dips here & there.
I'm looking at either Techno Board or Timbertech. Main aim is floor feeling solid and avoiding any creaking etc. Technoboard sounds like it would be best because it's more rigid, but what would you recommend?
Thanks!
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 Hi, thanks for your reply!
Yes i mean that some of the sub-floor boards are bowed across the width of them, so end to end they are fine.
I'm open to either type of underlay, and cost not really an issue, just want to be sure what is best before starting the job.
Thanks!
It seems so crazy to me that many "combination underlays" which come with a built in vapor barrier, actually have the waterproof vapor barrier ON TOP, and then some sort of absorbant material on bottom. So in other words, if a person wants to add a 6 mil poly vapor barrier, it seems they should put it on TOP of the underlay. Tell me why I'm wrong.
Any concerns with laying under layment on a concrete basement floor with slight residue of carpet adhesive that is still tacky in some areas? It’s very thin areas I’d tackiness that won’t come off using any of the adhesive removers. Is there any dry dust I can sweep over first before putting the under layment down? Maybe a concrete powder?
Wood Floor Warehouse thanks a ton!
Hi, I’m laminating a bedroom. Which Underlay would be best to reduce sound travelling through the timber floorboards to the rooms below? I don’t have the time or budget to pack joists and soundproof properly.
Also, to reduce waste I was hoping to use the same underlay on the concrete subfloor downstairs for Kitchen/Hallway/LivingRoom as well. Is TimberTech 2 Acoustic Plus the best option to cover all bases?
Yes, I would opt for timbertech 2. It is going to cover all bases for you and be usable both upstairs and on the concrete sub-floor downstairs. NB Underlay is no substitute for proper soundproofing. It helps but is not as effective as insulating your sub-floor.
Darren Burns Duly noted. Thank you for the speedy reply, much appreciated!
Do you have tips or a video on how to install solid wood floor to concrete subfloor?
SLU and glue
Hi , would you recommend a cork based underlay for engineered hardwood on a concrete sub floor?
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 thanks!
Could you tell me which one is best from a purely heat-insulation perspective? We have a hallway / corridor with a concrete subfloor that is very cold in winter. Techni-board, SilentGold plus, Acousta 3mm...?
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 Thanks for this! Very useful video btw :)
Hello very informative video, but not much said for hardwood other than not recommending underlayment. I will be nailing 3/4" (19mm) red oak hardwood over oriented strand board subfloor. From what I gather I need to use at least rosin paper to help with squeaking. What are your thoughts on felt, foam or cork? My subfloor is level but not very even, with up to 1/8" (3mm) height difference between subfloor boards. Of course I will even out the edges between the boards with a planer, but as far as underlayment, is there one that will improve this situation even more? It's my first flooring project and I can't find any definitive information about underlayment for hardwood floors since credible sources seem to all be saying different things. Thanks
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 Thanks for your reply, much appreciated.
In the gold underlay what density number would you recommend, would 32 make it too soft & prone to move/wobble the laminate flooring?? Iv heard not to touch 5mm but I don't understand if ppl are saying it's too soft then why is it more expensive & recommended on selling sites?
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Hi I’ve just recently purchased a old Florida house built in 1922 that has original heart pine floor that was buried underneath some trash carpet. The floor is actually not terrible, considering it’s almost 100 years old; but their is a few spots. The house is on concrete stilts that keep the bottom of the house a little over a foot off the ground. As far as I can tell theirs nothing else under the heart pine floors other than the foot of air space and then the actual ground (one board was loose and allowed me to look through it and I saw the ground) I’m not actually trying to restore the heart pine as I’m way too busy now to take on that project as well, so I settled on just putting laminate down over top the heart pine. My question is, with the foot of air space, and with how great heart pine locks out moisture, would I be able to JUST use a moisture barrier overtop the pine and then lay the laminate? Or should I actually install a subfloor of plywood on top of pine and then a moisture barrier and thennnn finally the laminate? I know this is a super long question😂 any help is appreciated. Thanks again
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 thanks so much!! Just now saw this
I am laying an engineered wood floor over old floorboards and have the Timberteck underlay. Which way up should I lay it (silver side up or down?) Also does it have to have a paper underlay beneath it
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 many thanks
I am redoing my second level and it has been stripped to the subfloor , I am looking to do cork to quiet the flooring , do I need a vapor barrier below or above the cork before nailing down the hardwood ?
Thanks
Wood Floor Warehouse
What do you recommend for the underlayment in the attic space ?, I looked at paper and also cork
Wow nice to see you here asking about cork. Trying to figure out what I should use as underlayment on my subfloor for my hardwood. Stay smelling fresh Rob!
@@JesustheWordChrist If it is solid wood then it should be nailed or glued down without underlay. You can read our fitting guides at - www.woodfloorwarehouse.co.uk/advice-inspiration/category/installation-advice . If it is an engineered wood floor, for Concrete subfloors, you can use any of these - www.woodfloorwarehouse.co.uk/accessories/wood-laminate-underlay/concrete , for timber subfloors you can use any of these - www.woodfloorwarehouse.co.uk/accessories/wood-laminate-underlay/timber
I have vinyl tiles that I do not want to pull up. Which underlay is best to cover over my vinyl tiled floor for installing laminate planks ?
@@woodfloorwarehouse781I really appreciate your quick and concise reply. Your video is most helpful. Thank you.
Regarding the beginning of your video
Why would you not want to use an underlay on a 2nd floor that has OSB boards when nailing down solid horizontal strand bamboo that is 3 3/4 x 9/16" thick (also has T&G edges)? Seems like you can't lose and might help any miniscule leveling imperfections and gain soundproofing
while at it...
This solid bamboo product I have has the following written instructions under the nail down method "Prior to installing flooring, roll out 15 lb. felt or asphalt impregnated paper in the same direction of
the flooring. Overlap each row by 3 in to 4 in"
I'm thinking about using the Pergo Gold 3mm underlayment instead of the felt.
Any thoughts..it's around 280 sq foot area.??
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 Thanks for your answer. The installer when he saw the pergo gold 3mil , said , sorry charley, I aint using that , Basically gave me the same reason. He went and got the manufacturers recommended underlayment. Looks pretty solid so far, we acclimated it for about 7 days or so. I have to say the Bamboo is pretty satisfying compared to the old cheap carpet a builder installed. Feels like a real floor now.
Underlayment is quarter inch Luan multiply sureply other products are padding and it's always best to use what manufacturers warranty are you bought it
Foil provides zero insulating value when there's no air gap. It only blocks radiant heat transfer but all heat transfer between your subfloor and floor is conductive transfer
I found this video very insightfull. I have just moved into a top floor flat and am looking to lay a laminate/engineered wood flooring to try to reduce noise travelling below.
I am looking to lay a dense underlay like 3mm mass loaded vinyl over my timber floorboards, then place 3mm plywood over the mlv. I will then place underlay and the flooring on top of the plywood. (Creating a sandwich effect of mlv>plywood>underlay)
I have been looking at the sonic gold underlay for directly under the laminate.
Can you advise if this would cause any issues?
Ok so I have a plywood floor in my shed and want to cover with laminate floors. What underlying am I using?
Thank you
Do you need an underlay for floors that have vinyl peal and stick tile
The floor already has vinyl peel and stick tile on it now my question is should i put a under lay on top of that tile before i install my new laminate floor
Hi I need an underlay which is suitable for a home gym I want it to be sound proof from noise and vibration
This underlay seems too thin and will not provide the comfort and softness my underfeet want.
why is underlay unsuitable for solid wood floors? and why do solid wood floor need to be stuck/nailed down?
I have a concrete floor that I was planning on covering with solid wood, but I was hoping to include an insulating layer also. Thanks.
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 thanks. That's very useful.
I have some Novostrat Sonic Gold 5mm to go under an interlocking vinyl floor on top of sealed concrete. The underlay packaging says to use two layers of Sonic Gold crossing at right angles. I've not seen using two layers of underlay mentioned anywhere else. Is it really necessary to use 2 layers? The room is ground floor bedroom, so not high traffic.
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 Thank you so much. You prevented a potentially expensive mistake. I will take your advice.
OK, so I bought the Sound Step Blue from your Warrington store. I just want to check, is it blue side up or black side up. It's not mentioned on the packaging.
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 Perfect thanks for the really quick reply. You guys rock!
Now I'm really confused, the picture on the roll shows it unrolling blue side down as you said. However, the roll I have unrolls blue side up!!
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 I sorry to say that I'm not getting on too well with this underlay. The roll is wound with black side out so that I have to flip the lengths to get it blue side down. That's OK, but the material is very sticky, this makes it difficult to unroll and it tends to stretch especially at the edges. That makes it lay on the floor unevenly and wavy at the edges. Also the stickiness makes it impossible to slide on the floor when trying to line up the edges.
Any tips to make this work would be appreciated. I did think that maybe sprinkling talcum powder on the floor might help.
Laminate on top of a tiled floor, what underlay would you suggest?
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 Thanks for the quick response. I was looking at the fibre boards. Are they not at all suitable? Thanks
@@frankay06 If you have a wooden sub-floor the fibre board can be used . The acousta 3mm will give better longevity, cope with heavier loads, and is also better in the event of water ingress.
Which is the best underlayer for a timber floor?
Are you recommending this because it is the best or it is what you have in stock? Finally, why will someone prefer a 3mm thick underlayer to a thicker one ?
I need good quality under layer and carpet that will cover a surface area of 25sqare meters. This is made up of a 19square meter for the room and the for corridor. Please recommend to me which carpet and underlayer to go for.
NB.
1. Floor is a timber one.
2. Daughter allergic to fur
3. What want to know best carpet thickness and quality
4. Want to know best underlayer thickness and quality.
5. Estimated price of all.
Finally if you have them.
Does the sound insulation here mean less foot traffic noise in the room itself or the room below?
The room itself meaning when you walk the floor will be more silent
What's your recommendation for a underlay for wooden office with timber floor? Wouldn't want any moisture there to rooten the wood. Much appreciated
I’ll be laying a bamboo floor on a concrete floor in a damp hallway. What’s the best application?
Wood Floor Warehouse it’s not severe dampness. It currently has carpet. I primarily want to be sure that moisture won’t come up through the floor.
Telling us the thickness would have been a good idea.
we call it padding or vapor barrier we don't call it underlay and we always use the one the give the customer the best warranty if you use something else you lose manufacturer warranty and then you have to take it up with padding manufacturer and it never comes out good for the customer
No underlayment for hardwood floor? What??
You never use underlayment for laminate floor and you don't have to use it for an engineered floor unless you're gluing it call a professional this guy apparently don't know what he's talking about
@@woodfloorwarehouse781 but that's not how we do it in the Midwest 20 years Union floor layer 20 years self employed CFI certified flooring master
@@darrenburns3198 are you referring to underlay padding vapor barrier are you referring to underlayment Like Luan ,multiply, sureply