I went to a PlayboiCarti concert about 2 weeks after this incident and you could tell people were more aware and it was a safer environment. I bent down to tie my shoes and immediately was checked on by strangers to make sure I was okay. While this event was truly tragic I think it may end up saving lives and injuries in the future.
I have been going to moshpits for about 7 years now and likely been to almost a hundred and that’s the exactly how i was always treated and exactly how i treated everyone else. This concert was due to poor security and thousands of concert goers storming the gates and pushing to get the front of a show with thousands of other concert goers to all get to the same place. It’s not a regular concert with a couple thousand, this was a festival. The blood is on the concert goers hands. Any logical person who’s been to a mosh pit show knows how to act in that situation. No amount of panic, drugs or excitement to get closer to the stage could allow me to knowing step on other people to get past them. A human stampede is what happened. Never personally seen that kind of shit before and hope to never do.
@@corbonthec0b I agree, this is all on the company who set this up, ya Travis is the face but he didn’t want this, like I truly believe he didn’t know shit until he was backstage, like why would he want to push that
This interview was a miscalculation for Travis. He can't talk candidly because of the lawsuits so he just has to parrot what his lawyers told him to say. Combine that with the fact that he is naturally awkward and isn't great with interviews and he just looked bad here.
"NAW AND WE STILL SNEAKING THE WILD ONES IN" TS deleted tweet, Yeah.. the man certainly cares about his fans enough to the point where he prepared everyone without tickets for a free-for-all yaknow. Miscalculation of character in interview yes, however it doesn't help that TS is loaded yaknow. He might have be able to articulate better if he wasn't caught in between a falsehood and drugs yaknow.
“He just looked bad here” yeah no shit bud he’s partially responsible for the death of 8 people and the injuries of hundreds others do u think that he shouldn’t look bad here?
@@aidanmackenzie1042 Sure he’s partially responsible but I don’t even think he’s the main culprit. The absolutely awful floor planning, security/medical situation where there clearly weren’t enough people and the idiocy of the crowd itself with people climbing on the ambulance are also very much responsible. People don’t realize when you have a million things going on it can actually be very hard to see/hear on stage. Travis did stop the show a few times for medical staff to help people when he saw, but I mean it was a huge crowd and there’s a million lights shining in his eyes and it’s super loud, he can’t hear and see everyone at once. I genuinely believe he didn’t know what was happening so yeah he should have stopped the show in retrospect but I believe him when he says he wasn’t aware of the severity of the situation. Why was the event staff made aware of the situation and didn’t notify Travis, letting him do another 35 minutes of performing. If something is wrong the staff are supposed to let Travis know, I’m fairly certain he’d have an ear piece or something for stuff like that. The Houston police knew about it but decided not to stop the show when they absolutely had the authority to force them to end early.
I agree, the fact that he has to filter himself because of the legal reasons makes him seem fake, and like he doesnt truly care about what happens even if he does
You are absolutely 100% spot on. This entire interview REEKS of crisis management. This is his team trying to mend his public perception & it's not really a great attempt at that
The idea of other shows being wild, like with moshpits, is such a key point. Moshpits get wild for sure, but if you get knocked down, you're immediately picked up by at least three people in the pit. Safety is always key. Rage out for sure, but people take care of each other in those crowds. I've seen countless bands stop shows and make sure everyone's safe and ok. It's just so upsetting how this shit happened. He made so many bad decisions
I think its because its a generation that don't know what moshing is, he's one of the only rappers that does this, this kids were so virgin to it all and just didn't care about anything.
its like he expected people to act how they do at rock shows and whatnot how there's never a problem not realizing this fresh crowd he's preaching it to
so true. it's remarkable that in this age of social media bringing stars more closer and intimate with their audience that he was able to maintain such popularity while having such a lifeless and uninteresting personality. Also what annoys me the most is how every IG pic he posts he NEVER smiles or looks up at the camera, he's always staring at his feet, like right after that you know he looks up like "how was that one? did that look cool or no?"
@@sirpsychosexy Adding to what you mention here, when you tell people that an artist is "bad" you dont necessarily mean their music is bad, but rather what they represent via it is. At the end of the day, what Travis represents is a self-centered egotistical lifestyle which will always lead to apathy, arogance and every synonym of chaos. You could rightfully so argue that music is music and it simply represents the "now" in society - But if people nowdays want to listen to people who do not value life in its moment, then I dont want to be a part of that music age man.
@@sirpsychosexy last part was not needed, knowing travis he is a socially awkward guy. If he prefers doing pictures not looking at the camera is that your business lmao? Are you gonna critisize his hair next because it looks the same in every picture? lmao
“An ambulance don’t really have like red and blue lights” -Travis in interview “It’s an ambulance” -Travis on stage That was all I needed to know about this interview
I hatelimabeans calm down buddy, I asked a question. It was literally a clip that went on for half a second, it ain’t that hard to believe that someone possibly missed it.
If you’re in music or just a music fan, you know the power that concerts and live music have. It is a magical space and there have been shows I’ve attended that are among the greatest memories of my life. The fact that people lost their lives at this event… I still can’t even wrap my head around how horrible this was. It makes my head, heart and soul hurt that no one is even showing these families a shred of the support they need.
Let's be real...Travis signed a contract that said he'd give some namesake to the concert.. but this was LiveNation! Ofc white American will let the black man take the fall
I can wrap my head around it. "NAW AND WE STILL SNEAKING THE WILD ONES IN!!!" Travis deleted tweet. He prepared these people for death and invited it into his venue.
The problem isn’t with “mosh pits” being unsafe, I’ve been apart of a fair share in my life and I’ve experienced nothing but absolute care for one another in the cathartic chaos of a mosh pit. The problem was with the planning and how many people were rushing the stage which just created a deadly environment. Not to mention their ability to respond appropriately.
Mosh pits at rap shows/large scale events are an entirely different animal imo. They aren't slam dancing yanno. The explanation of what a mosh pit is in the Three 6 Mafia track Mosh Pit w/ Josey Scott & Lil Wyte is more accurate. Juicy J: "For those of ya'll who don't know what a mosh pit is - It's just a bunch of drunk ignant mufuckas gettin' the shit whooped outta dem to some music you know what I'm sayin'"
I saw baby keem a few weeks ago and I really do think astroworld had an effect on the concert, I’ve never been to a concert before where they had a 20 minute interlude and gave everyone free waters and had water cups ready to go at the bar the entire night, so hopefully this situation will at least make concert goers be treated like real people instead of dehydrated packed in sheep
Damn that sounds amazing. Most concerts I've been too, even recently, you have to wait in line for 30 fucking minutes to get water. And of course the bar is the only place you can get water. It's borderline dangerous and I hate any venue that is run like that.
@@RiZeLegiT It was so fun he had us moshing and jumping up and down but also slowed it down for his more introspective songs and he rapped every lyric and gave carti esc screams, family ties might’ve been the most fun I’ve had at a live concert and his next tour is only gonna be bigger
I went to a festival where they where handing out free energy drinks but charging $4 for a 20oz bottle of water in the middle of July. Surprised no one died that night.
FFS PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE the farm animal feeling is terrifying and just not cool considering the $$$ flowing in they can afford to at least hand out some fucking water. "But muh profits" 😭
This interview was dumb for him to do. Of course he was going to say he doesn’t take responsibility, he’s in a $10B lawsuit, plus he’s a bad public speaker and didn’t say anything we didn’t already know. Completely unforced error on his part.
Ppl don’t realize he is Socially awkward af 😂 but he truly loves his fans and music and that’s the only time you see him go crazy or jus vibe but any videos of him jus in public he’s a introvert he’s always been like that so I can definitely see him not ever coming back out into the public because he’s not ready for that heat and drama this is a horrible situation for both parties
@@losskamp Naww he just relies so heavily on that AT that he sounds like he's in EDM genre 😆. Cher would be proud 🤣. At least T-Pain knows how to sing.
The thought of dying such an excruciatingly painful death from something like crowd crush makes me want to cry. 10 people have died because of that night and over 300 were injured, and Travis Scott went to a party at Dave & Busters after the concert. If he experienced even a small fraction of the amount pain and fear all those people felt that night, he would beg to face consequences for his involvement in the tragedy that took place that night.
Did he know people were dead immediately after the concert? Perhaps he went to a friends house to cool off, there happened to be a party there? All this judging on his part is kinda stupid. Yeah hes the name attached to the convert, but hes a performer lol, hes on stage strung out with strobe lights going on, nobody expects him to be the security detail at a concert, and the actual venue should be set up in a way that promotes free flow of traffic, and their venue limit should take into account people being trampled. Many things he obviously is not an expert on, or responsible for.
There was also an eerily similar tragedy in 2000 at the Roskilde festival, during Pearl Jam's concert. Ten people died - 9 at the festival, 1 later at the hospital. The only difference between the two incidents was that Pearl Jam did their damn best to get people to stop pushing up to the front, with Eddie Vedder saying pleadingly "on the count of three, take three steps back, ok? One, step back, two, step back, three, step back. Ok, one more time" and going on like that over and over and over again, his voice growing more and more panicked and desperate. And what did Travis Scott do? He looked at the ambulance, said something like "woooww, everything ok?" And then went on with the show while people were screaming for their lives.
@@ninoid51 Yeah I know, but since a lot of people love Pearl Jam - one of them being me - I wouldn't entertain that thought too much tbh. It was probably just a coincidence - a weird and creepy one, yes - but a coincidence nonetheless.
@@baL88537 Pearl Jam literally have hundreds of millions of fans all over the world, so it's not strange at all that Travis would also be a fan of theirs. I'm not defending his actions because what he's done is disgusting, but I don't buy that devil worship b***s***. Like he's just a sh***y person with a god complex, and you're just feeding his ego by spreading that devil worship cr*p around.
Even if all his defenders are right, and he truly didn’t notice anything or didn’t understand the extent, the fact that he went to party at Dave & Busters after is a little bit hard to ignore
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 I'd be concerned if hundreds of people had gotten fucked up at MY concert and shit's making international news. I'd be with my lawyers and in the hospital, 'figuring it out' as its happening. And I certainly wouldn't let it be known where I was blowing off steam.
@@MYNAMEISKLAY people die everyday. Nobody cares. You just love it when you can judge and judge and judge. It’s all bullshit. You whine about Travis Scott and yet you elect bigger killers to public office. Travis Scott is GOD compared to Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
I went to warped tour in 2008 and All Time Low was playing, wasnt a fan, just passed by, and experienced them stopping their performance due to an audience member attacking a female and the guitarist grabbed the mic and said he was going to throw his guitar through his chest like a javelin if the crowd didn't get him out of the audience.
I don't think it should be viewed as an "it was bad but at least" type way. It shouldn't have to come to that for concert goers to learn to be aware and for artists and organizers to know how much responsibility they have. Where people have lost their lives, there are absolutely no positives and no silver linings. One life lost is one too many.
In a perfect world, of course. But sadly it DID happen and like all tragedies the only way to make sense of them is to find a silver lining in order to cope. It should have never happened in the first place but now we can only hope people will learn from this and be more aware.
@@paola6812 What I'm responding to with this are comments that are trivializing the issue by saying it was in any way good or something that helps. Try saying to the relatives of the victims "well it was a tragedy and your child/sibling/partner/parent died but at least it will help make future concerts more safe!". Learn from it, yes absolutely. But calling any AVOIDABLE loss of lives a silver lining is an insult to the victims and their families.
@@DallMyD3lvis don't really think people should be comparing this to 9/11 at all. Its not the same. This tragedy was a completely avoidable and unnecessary loss of life.
@@Murmurrr if he said it just like that with no filler, people would probably respect him more and his career could have a chance of making a comeback.
Dudes. I wear glasses. I used to be very heavy in the Chicago underground scene. If my GLASSES got knocked off my face I would be able to recover them. Everytime. They'd get booted off by a surfer or just hit off - plus I am all sweaty... And I shit you not,Everytime it happened I would be able to recover them. Looking back on it, I always thought "well, there they go. Gone forever" and bam, crowd parts, 3 people start reaching down for me. And before I know my glasses would be back on my face. The culture needs to mature at these shows. It needs to change. It isn't worth it.
What do you expect at this at this kind of sh*tty autotune "rap" concert? Some of the worst music out there that's embraced by tasteless kids in a climate of utter narcissistic sub-mediocrity. People literally dancing next to people passed out on the ground, Travis egging on more carnage.. pos got off on it, I swear.
@@elliotthedissident6077 you sound like my dad when I told him about the shows I went to. The music isn't sophisticated enough for you ... Okay. It's sophisticated enough for kids, teens, some adults and obviously lots and lots of people. Your hot take on the quality of music effecting the culture around it is... Dumb as shit.
Saw Jpegmafia in Chicago a few years back and my phone got knocked out of my hand while holding it up to take a picture. 3 dudes cleared the area that it fell in and grabbed it for me. Then back to moshing
@@ant3352 He'd probably also tell you that rap is dead now and that old school rap was the best even though old school inspired rap still exists today lmao. He very cleary doesn't know shit about hip-hop/rap.
*549* is the number of times Travis Scott has said "you know" in this 51 minute interview. Let's say it takes 1 second to say "you know", that means he spent 9 minutes and 9 seconds of this interview by saying it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
He must have a shit lawyer if they let him do that interview. What is crazy is when you look at recent festival tragedies all the tops ones are fire. The ones that are trample/crush are all about the same death toll 9-11 people. And reading reports of those crushed cases they all appear to be lack of security or poorly managed infrastructure. The band Who concert only had 25 officers for crowd control as one example. These festival deaths have been known about and the reasons behind them clear. If you have trample death it is mostly likely lack of staff. There is reports of people working there that didn't even show their ID and they were security. Travis and the production company cheaped out hoping to pocket the profits. The courts need to make an example out of Travis and this production company, they need to send a message to anyone else trying to reduce safty for profits. A lot of people have trauma now too, imagine seeing someone die in front of you when you just wanted to have fun. Make them pay (in money no blood).
@@terryjohnson4906 you know, my fans are very important to me, you know. Their suffering is my suffering, you know. I hope i can do something to heal them, you know...
At first I thought you meant deaths on the scale of 9/11, which is about how many people were killed in the crush at Mecca in 2015. I'm not trying to say 10 people dying is not a big deal, but hundreds or thousands do die in crowd crushes sometimes
If one of my guests at our wedding business got injured or sick, we'd be sued no doubt.. It'll blow my mind if these companies don't get lawsuits like crazy, including Travis Scotts prod. Company, it's unbelievable how everyone failed so miserably
@@QuixEnd I agree man, there's been no time for them to be even heard yet.. so putting succesful/unsuccessful beside don't mean much, yet. The greasy wheels of 'justice' turn slowly. I'm not disagreeing with you at all..it's an awful disgrace just how many ppl had to be asleep at the wheel for this to even be possible.. Edit...Lol..my bad man, I heard so much 'legalese' in the last 12 mths I'm starting to speak it (badly.. lol)
Travis shares responsibility with the organizers, venue, etc. How much of it he holds will be determined in court. I think people who say he holds all responsibility and people saying he holds none are crazy.
His responsibility is very close to 100% considering he's the organizer too, had stopped the concertsl before to get his shoes from the crowd (as in he had the ability to stop it). The only fault of the venue was to still work with travis considering the previous incidents on his concerts and how he recommended people to do dangerous things like jump over balconies or try to dodge security and enter even if they didn't have a ticket causing overcrowding possibly
It seems that the direct cause of the problem was crowd control, or lack thereof. That’s mostly dealt with before anybody shows up, it’s a design issue. Travis should’ve done everything he could’ve to prevent deaths, but the design of the venue isn’t his fault.
@@manaspradhan8041 what 💀 nah he isnt, he’s simply the performer. Travis doesn’t oversee things like that in a big scale. All that is put on organizers such as live nation
I've been a backstage worker in the music industry my entire adult life and am thinking of quitting and finding a new career because of things like this happening. The level of unprofessional and reckless behavior in the past few months has been worse than it **ever** was in pre-pandemic times. A mass casualty event like this was completely unnecessary, and everyone who was paying attention in the production world had a feeling something horrible like this would happen. If anyone has a link to somewhere I could donate money to the families and the injured, please comment with a link. No amount of money can fix this. Money can't buy life. We *CAN NOT* allow something like this to happen again, ever.
Yeah, I was at summer smash a couple months before this, a bunch of stage-rushers for uzi. And there were crowd surges, I was taken off my feet a couple times, the crowd would get to moving like a tidal wave before he even came on
The Bad Bunny concert was held up here in Puerto Rico over the weekend. 35k people at the Hiram Birthorn baseball field and everyone was scared it was gonna be Astroworld all over again. Instead, even if the first day the entering logistics were dogshit, everyone was so understanding. At the line, a couple of people fainted because we were piled up like sardines, but each time the response from the crowd was quicker. Bad Bunny at one point stopped the show mid-song because people on the front were letting him know a light caught fire. Overall, the crowd was all well aware of the risks and were acting quickly, as well as Bad Bunny, which I think came in part because of this incident. Apart from a couple people fainting, there were no casualties on the event.
@@HOWZERGOD Love people that talk shit without knowing lol. Puerto Rico doesn't have big arenas or venues that can hold more than 18.5k people. Plus, this isn't the first concert that was held up on the Hiram Birthorn. Artists have performed there since the 60s, like The Jackson Five in 1973, Ozzy Osbourne in 1984, Sting the year after, Bon Jovi several times, Whitney Houston in 1994-hell, even Metallica was scheduled to play during their Nowhere Else to Roam tour in 1993, but had to cancel because it rained. More recent performances include Shakira in 2000 and 2003, as well as Rihanna in 2013. Artists nowadays just prefer to perform on the designated venue, which is el Choliseo José Miguel Agrelot with a previously mentioned capacity of 18.5k people. Meanwhile, Bad Bunny managed to fill at capacity the 35k limit of the Hiram Birthorn court for two days: 70k people, including locals and visitors from around the world. Say what you want, but I expect nothing less from an artist at his current level.
It shouldn't be on the people who attend to be better than whatever they were before - the people running the event are entirely responsible for that, not needing to be a thing at all (within reason).
In all honesty there's literally nothing that this man can say to make people feel better from this tragedy besides let the people grieve. Especially since he's going through major litigation there's only so much he can say without incriminating himself.
Most of them don't have injuries usually. Superficial maybe, but nothing like this. I've never felt more cared for by my fellow humans than at punk shows. You are obviously an aficionado. What punk shows have you been to?
Followed by "i got em stage diving out the nose bleeds"... In 2017 a guy was pushed off a balcony at his show, broke his ankle and is still partially paralyzed
We raged in the late 90s the 2000s and 2010s the difference is the performer and the people in the mosh pit all had respect for each other. If someone saw something they’d help if the performer saw something they’d stop the concert and say something. It’s called respect mosh pits and raging isn’t the issue it the lack of respect for each other. His team not cutting corners and not paying enough staff or paying people at all was the problem. Again a respect issue because they want to take everyone money but not provide proper security.
charlemagne did a terrible job. if it was somebody else he'd have been all down travis' throat w those questions. he literally finished off some of his answers when trav started getting into the "you know", "um"s, etc
Someone was paralyzed at a Travis concert before and he did not make any changes. This just shows that he cares most about public opinion and safety is not a priority
They should be able to create infrared sensors that detect how dense a crowd is and play a siren and immediately stop the music when a crush is occuring. Hopefully people will react in a safe and appropriate measure if they treat it like a fire drill / fire emergency because they are clearly equally as dangerous. Crushes happen yearly all over the globe. Mecca is a place where it tragically happens often due to poor crowd control. This is a problem with a solution we just need to implement.
Thank you for this great analyze of the interview. I found it really disturbing to see how little accountability that man is taking for HIS festival - great example with the car shop.
Bruh, you know you messed up when Lil Pump saves a London teen having a seizure and noticed it in a very large condensed crowd. Also saying "YEAH... yeaaaaaaah yeah" as someone is passed out with the neck leaned back being unresponsive.
Is that true? Or do you mean no avoidable deaths? Seems like in 21 years eventually someone will have an issue like a heart attack or Aneurysm and die.
Yeah I agree. There are so many completely ignorant and uncaring people out there they could probably run something like this again and just outright ignore criticism
If he wanted to be the voice for victims, he could’ve done it when he had a microphone in his hand and those victims were right in front of him. But he didn’t want to listen then and now he just wants to offer up these BS platitudes.
Bro THANK YOU. People saying Travis doesn’t have any blame in this, at the very least he could have helped coordinate the ambulance through (besides one single sentence and a 45 second pause) and helped get the bodies out the the crowd besides being bodysurfed, which can really fuck someone up if they’ve got broken bones. Dude had the mic and the influence of the whole crowd… they came to see him and he had the loudest voice out of everyone…. And he chose not to help. That’s on him
Do you know how much shit goes on on stage: the bassey music, the earpieces with the operator and so he can hear himself, and the crazy flame machines on stage and shit. He also helped some victims on top of all that if you search for the footage. He could’ve done better but still.
travis constantly saying he’s “going to figure this out” and “find the solutions” feels as vague to me as when kylie said 2016 was the “year of realizing things”
Travis needs to take some accountability. Him trying to dodge legal and financial responsibility for his concert at his festival is just not right. Step up, be an adult, admit you were wrong, and try to make it right.
You act like he murdered those people with his own hands. He messed up yeah but what is he supposed to admit to? He should’ve stop the festival.. but he’s not the reason those people died. IMO
I figured things out for Travis: in advance of large crowd gatherings you make risk assessments. Don't cut (financial) corners which negatively impact control or move to plan B, smaller venue, smaller crowd for example.
Sorry Anthony, i think your too optimistic. This is going to blow over. His reputation is probably damaged in the public now and in the forseeble future, but like so many celebrities and artist before him, he will come back. Maybe not bounce back, and probably not in a year or two, but the wider public forgets, and Travis is too profitable and popular to fail. I wish causing death to multiple people, would end a career, but it doesn't. There is simply too much money being printed, and that has made Travis irreplaceable. He will be hated for the rest of his career by those who try to remember. While the rest however, will most likely just not skip nor care when a Travis Scott song comes on Spotify's "Chill alternate lofi hip hop space theme for gen abcd" playlist.
@@Kaz999998 the public response will always be astride the savouriest of news pieces. Head of security being remiss of his duties is less attractive than famous rapper responsible for the deaths of almost a dozen.
Don’t forget the part where he mentioned that barometric wrist bands will help prevent a future Astro world tragedy! Seriously, almost fell out of my chair when TS said that in the CTG interview. 🤣
Fantanos analogy to a car company reminds me of the scandal that VW had about the cars being programmed to cheat at smog tests or something. VW ended up pushing the blame on the engineers and soft balled taking any actual responsibility. I hope that Travis takes responsibility and tries to do something meaningful.
July 2023 and people already forgot about it and hes doing shows like if nothing happened, I've seen people in comment sections joking about the victims, I am extremely disgusted.
Yes the buck ultimately falls on him, though as someone who works live shows and understands that, for almost every division in labor (security, stage, scenic, tech, etc) it’s a totally separate company contracted for the job, there’s multiple companies that could also be culpable. For instance: crowd control. Could Astroworld (the company) have trusted that crowd control company to keep the audience safe as they entered, based on all the available data they had and they failed? Or did Astroworld find the cheapest company to get the job done, give them barely any details, and that company did the best they could? Who was the heads of Astroworld making these calls? Unless you’re really in the industry you have no idea just how many roles there are behind the scenes to make sure this all happens as it’s supposed to. I think until you get all the details from when these trials play out in court, it’s hard to squarely put blame on Travis tbh. But I understand the frustration that fans have towards him and his poor responses so far. Truth be told just the technical details alone that go into a festival completely goes over an artist’s head. And that’s not me saying artist’s are stupid, it’s me saying that, the details go so far beyond, and are so much more complicated than putting up some fence, a stage, lights, led walls and some speakers.
I think the issue is encouraging this rage behavior incorrectly but even so directly stating to his fans to break in, in his songs, promoting to younger audiences, his past actions, his past arrest( and still not learning). His documentary. This is was about money and always was. Now it’s how to actually protect the money. He and his fellow company dealings will all go down. But doing an interview to clear YOUR name although you own and created ASTROWORLD is bullshit and insensitive. His partnership will that therapy company was a scam, and insensitive. I think he’s making this worst for himself . Celebrities are not just above the basic law( maybe in California).
I get what you're saying, but as both part-owner of the festival AND the performer who failed to influence the crowd to avoid tragedy, he's fucked, and he deserves it. As for the other companies, don't worry, the lawyers are well aware that they have a lot more money than Travis Scott.
There have been so many raging concerts before him. Dmx, Jayz, carti, uzi, Wayne have all had crazy concerts but I can assure you nobody died.The problem is Travis Scott and the environment he creates in his concerts
@@hokuwong meh ppl more or less stand around and take pictures showing they’re at EDC, not much raging like at Travis Scott/Uzi/ Playboi Carti concerts.
I’m pretty sure the “problem” was communicated day 1, there was a stampede which in turn created crowd crush, simple and logical. But it seems like every comment I read tryna put blame on Travis is coming from peoples feelings and emotions not facts. To say “the problem is Travis Scott and the environment he creates in his concerts” when he has almost a decade of live showings and no deaths until now literally destroys what you just said. This was all circumstance, a combination of different factors created this situation not the single artist performing a high energy show in the night with flashing lights and seemingly majority crowd of ppl enjoying themselves. You should watch Washington posts “Astroworld timeline” video, it’s gives a great breakdown of Live Nations terrible venue layout and more that created this mess.
People aren't just good or bad. You can remember and respect good things about Travis, while still acknowledging that he's done bad things. Don't put him on a pedestal or idolize him; learn from the good things he's done AND the bad things he's done. He's just a guy, and you can choose which parts of him to be inspired by.
You can admire the art and ambition without admiring a person's actions. There have been a lot of shitty people to make amazing music over the years; Travis is another one, and there will be more. Heroes are human, too, and it's okay to admire someone's good qualities and work while acknowledging their faults, however serious. You're the one that defines the line of how bad a person must be to taint their art. Sincerely, a Kanye West fan.
Yeah, don't think I can listen to this dude's music anymore. And I can often separate the artist from the art...but not when the art itself is directly tied to several people's death. And the lack of genuine remorse is just scary. I feel like some celebrities get wayyy too big and they just don't have the mental/emotional foundation to deal with it.
The fucking audacity to cause all this injury and death with his negligence and then turn around and say he wants to be “the voice of the victims” or whatever is insane. Absolutely despicable
I was on board with the “Travis is fully responsible” narrative, but after seeing the footage and taking everything into account , Live nation is by far most culpable. They were massively unprepared and ignored safety measures: 50,000 packed in with shortages of security and space. Couldn’t even let fans enter through metal detectors. Travis past actions to incite fans have been dangerous but to my knowledge he’s been relatively calm during shows compared to what he used to be. At Astroworld he didn’t incite any chaotic behavior, he just played his music like normal. His fanbase are mostly 16-24 year olds who aren’t known for being mature so they seek out doing crazy things at shows, just as they would at an Uzi/Carti concert. The only argument that makes sense to blame him a lot is if he knew what was going on and decided not to do anything, which we’ll find out eventually
People blame him because he ENCOURAGED the overcrowding by telling people to break down the barricades and sneak into the concert without paying. That’s Travis Scott’s fault not livenation
It annoys me that people focus so much on a person with a public face, the celebrity, and it's not that I want them off the hook, I don't care, it's that the faceless people working in the organisation of the event are probably even more responsible than Travis himself for the actual minutiae of logistics, and they are let off the hook. People should want the names, the list of the people involved and their responsibilities, and bring every one of them to public justice. And also, while you can point out most concerts end safely, who knows how many concerts ended safely - but had the potential not to? I still think it's wild that you don't have an endless list of safety regulations that were broken in this case and you leave it to the private company to calculate whether skimming on safety is worth the risk or not. But that's America, I guess, leaving everything, including safety, to the profit-motivated private sector and to civilians to demand justice through costly and time-consuming lawsuits.
@@MrJessebo The ones responsible. And I highly doubt that Travis Scott was the one hiring the ground workers. He is a highly placed cog, but still a cog, in a complex machine that involves labels, sponsors, managers, venue operators, promoters, security firms, etc. etc. Deals were signed, decisions were made, money changed multiple hands multiple times - and during those multiple times lax logistics and security was either approved or ignored (or, god forbid, encouraged) by multiple people. This was not a small indie concert in a local pub but a huge operation.
@@Medytacjusz your point is excellent and i fully agree- however, what you’re asking for is the exact reason why america is built the way it is. the facelessness and size of the money trail are designed to dissolve responsibility. the human brain has a hard time parsing all that, so instead you throw a cog out to the wolves and it keeps the masses somewhat satisfied that ‘justice’ has been served. it’s the same story in every industry over and over again, 2008 housing collapse, BP oil spill, Enron scandal, Opioid epidemic; shit, even our politics work the same.
@@Gamer123e4 things seem to only become more polarized with time too because the masses are fed up & mostly unable to realize many of the issues they/we want to place the contention on are all tributaries of the same shit river. Until the masses develop a system to band together and demand mass real accountability, nothing will change & the root of classist control and injustice will continue
The "get to the bottom of this" comment is crazy because we already have. We have decades old research on how to avoid tragedies like this. The science is very clear on how these things should be organized to ensure the safety of all involved. What happened is that everyone was either ignorant of these guidelines or ignored them out of convience.
its pretty simple. if people are breaking through your security and hundreds if not thousands of people are there without a ticket the show must not be held. after seeing footage of the security getting destroyed by a stampede of people thats really all I needed to see.
I mentioned this on a different video & you pretty much also summed it up. Legally he can’t say much or apologize bc he can’t admit fault w/out losing all these lawsuits. But bc Of that, it makes this interview a waste of time , he’s not saying anything & I understand wanting to improve your image but it’s way too soon for that right now. All this interview does is make Travis Scott look all the more worse. His comment on “rage culture” not causing this, he has to say that, but it’s things like that that make me not like him. Of course your stupid rage culture and it’s multiple histories of injury people contributed a huge part to this. Do you not remember the fan that was paralyzed? Or when you encouraged the crowd to “fuck up” a guy who tried to steal your shoe? Travis would have been so much better off not saying anything right now
It kinda terrifies me how many clowns are supporting Travis and even trying to make him out to be a victim. When the fuck are the working class going to stop sympathizing with millionaires and billionaires who see them as literally disposable capital and labor?
@@benwagner2000 facts. And blame Travis for encouraging people to sneak in and act dumb. He could've really made up for it by helping the families but he just doesn't want them touching his money.
@@lilcuku3256 there’s another clip from the same night where he said “who asked me to stop” look it up. yeah he also said “middle finger to the sky” when the ambulance was trying to help someone.
For everybody here that wonder why he did not say sorry in many occasion it is because if he say sorry it can be use against him as indication that you held responsibility in Astroworld tragedy and can be sentenced for a long time behind bars, that is something that his lawyer suggest I guess to avoid the law. It is a real law thing.
There was an AD before this video with a song that was going like ''tutu-ALRIGHT, tutu-ALRIGHT''' as soon as I skipped the add fantano went ''Alright'' and I was like ''Aaaalright lol''
I never wanna pass judgement on how someone chooses to grieve, but travis didn't tell me what I wanted to hear. I'm still disappointed in him, I hope this whole thing hits him true, with all of the legalities he could be numb.
In the interview he speaks on how he views his performances as performance art and wanting to stop the show in such away that doesnt take away from the performance. Overall I think he was being ignorant and chose to continuing performing since no one else shut off the show, it still wasn't purposeful but it was definitely the final decision of his musical career.
I’m suprised that they didn’t do this interview in a black and white filter
Would have been an amazing troll.
@@Y0utubeIsFuckingHomo true, but an insensitive one
@@damone7524 I wouldn't put it past charlamagne lmao he is as disrespectful as one can possibly be
With auto tune
@@jackkeller3252 😂😂😂 yaaa yaaaaaaaaa
I went to a PlayboiCarti concert about 2 weeks after this incident and you could tell people were more aware and it was a safer environment. I bent down to tie my shoes and immediately was checked on by strangers to make sure I was okay. While this event was truly tragic I think it may end up saving lives and injuries in the future.
Well I guess we had to hit a point to realize.
I have been going to moshpits for about 7 years now and likely been to almost a hundred and that’s the exactly how i was always treated and exactly how i treated everyone else. This concert was due to poor security and thousands of concert goers storming the gates and pushing to get the front of a show with thousands of other concert goers to all get to the same place. It’s not a regular concert with a couple thousand, this was a festival. The blood is on the concert goers hands. Any logical person who’s been to a mosh pit show knows how to act in that situation. No amount of panic, drugs or excitement to get closer to the stage could allow me to knowing step on other people to get past them. A human stampede is what happened. Never personally seen that kind of shit before and hope to never do.
@@corbonthec0b I agree, this is all on the company who set this up, ya Travis is the face but he didn’t want this, like I truly believe he didn’t know shit until he was backstage, like why would he want to push that
Those carti concerts are just not the size that astroworld was
Definitely an optimistic point, but just a shame that several lives of people haa to be lost for people to be more aware of this
Travis literally pulled a Bojack Horseman.
underrated comment
No cause actually😭💀💀
Does it means he will attend a second interview where charlamagne corners and destroys travis?
Ain’t even watched the vid but ik ur right
What's the context of this joke?
This interview was a miscalculation for Travis. He can't talk candidly because of the lawsuits so he just has to parrot what his lawyers told him to say. Combine that with the fact that he is naturally awkward and isn't great with interviews and he just looked bad here.
"NAW AND WE STILL SNEAKING THE WILD ONES IN" TS deleted tweet, Yeah.. the man certainly cares about his fans enough to the point where he prepared everyone without tickets for a free-for-all yaknow. Miscalculation of character in interview yes, however it doesn't help that TS is loaded yaknow. He might have be able to articulate better if he wasn't caught in between a falsehood and drugs yaknow.
And he’s really bad at lying and covering his tracks
“He just looked bad here” yeah no shit bud he’s partially responsible for the death of 8 people and the injuries of hundreds others do u think that he shouldn’t look bad here?
@@aidanmackenzie1042 Sure he’s partially responsible but I don’t even think he’s the main culprit. The absolutely awful floor planning, security/medical situation where there clearly weren’t enough people and the idiocy of the crowd itself with people climbing on the ambulance are also very much responsible. People don’t realize when you have a million things going on it can actually be very hard to see/hear on stage. Travis did stop the show a few times for medical staff to help people when he saw, but I mean it was a huge crowd and there’s a million lights shining in his eyes and it’s super loud, he can’t hear and see everyone at once. I genuinely believe he didn’t know what was happening so yeah he should have stopped the show in retrospect but I believe him when he says he wasn’t aware of the severity of the situation. Why was the event staff made aware of the situation and didn’t notify Travis, letting him do another 35 minutes of performing. If something is wrong the staff are supposed to let Travis know, I’m fairly certain he’d have an ear piece or something for stuff like that. The Houston police knew about it but decided not to stop the show when they absolutely had the authority to force them to end early.
I agree, the fact that he has to filter himself because of the legal reasons makes him seem fake, and like he doesnt truly care about what happens even if he does
You are absolutely 100% spot on. This entire interview REEKS of crisis management. This is his team trying to mend his public perception & it's not really a great attempt at that
That's what I thought and it just makes him look a lot worse
This ^^^^
When did Anthony come out?
This logic is fucking retarded, either he ignores it and gets called out or address it and get called out for it being a “PR move”
@@HandjobHandsome right like what do ppl want him to do lol
The idea of other shows being wild, like with moshpits, is such a key point. Moshpits get wild for sure, but if you get knocked down, you're immediately picked up by at least three people in the pit. Safety is always key. Rage out for sure, but people take care of each other in those crowds. I've seen countless bands stop shows and make sure everyone's safe and ok. It's just so upsetting how this shit happened. He made so many bad decisions
see the comments in xxl or complex’s post about him, literally everyone defending him
Unfortunately Travis doesn't promote good mosh etiquette. "Ain't no mosh pit if ain't no injuries"
I think its because its a generation that don't know what moshing is, he's one of the only rappers that does this, this kids were so virgin to it all and just didn't care about anything.
@@WhiteW0lf20 yaaaaa, that line isn't gonna help him
its like he expected people to act how they do at rock shows and whatnot how there's never a problem not realizing this fresh crowd he's preaching it to
He said “ya know” so many times in this interview, I thought I knew
Did ya know?
"Ya know" roughly every 6 seconds.
It shouldn'tve but this made me laugh ya know? 😔
That's called typical black guy language
@@Mike-t-m1921
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travs honey moon is over. his overall vapid demeanor which was once seen as easygoing is now recognized as a lack of empathy
so true. it's remarkable that in this age of social media bringing stars more closer and intimate with their audience that he was able to maintain such popularity while having such a lifeless and uninteresting personality.
Also what annoys me the most is how every IG pic he posts he NEVER smiles or looks up at the camera, he's always staring at his feet, like right after that you know he looks up like "how was that one? did that look cool or no?"
@@sirpsychosexy lmaooo
@@sirpsychosexy Adding to what you mention here, when you tell people that an artist is "bad" you dont necessarily mean their music is bad, but rather what they represent via it is.
At the end of the day, what Travis represents is a self-centered egotistical lifestyle which will always lead to apathy, arogance and every synonym of chaos.
You could rightfully so argue that music is music and it simply represents the "now" in society - But if people nowdays want to listen to people who do not value life in its moment, then I dont want to be a part of that music age man.
@@sirpsychosexy last part was not needed, knowing travis he is a socially awkward guy. If he prefers doing pictures not looking at the camera is that your business lmao? Are you gonna critisize his hair next because it looks the same in every picture? lmao
it’s fairly known he’s a cold hearted guy. his first manager said he dipped on him while he had a seizure
“An ambulance don’t really have like red and blue lights” -Travis in interview
“It’s an ambulance” -Travis on stage
That was all I needed to know about this interview
for real. I don't know how his pr team thought it would be a good idea to make him do this interview. I'm beyond speechless
When did he point out that there was an ambulance on stage?
@@tuskenvader6620 9:28 on video
@@tuskenvader6620 someone didnt watch the video
I hatelimabeans calm down buddy, I asked a question. It was literally a clip that went on for half a second, it ain’t that hard to believe that someone possibly missed it.
If you’re in music or just a music fan, you know the power that concerts and live music have. It is a magical space and there have been shows I’ve attended that are among the greatest memories of my life. The fact that people lost their lives at this event… I still can’t even wrap my head around how horrible this was. It makes my head, heart and soul hurt that no one is even showing these families a shred of the support they need.
This comment gets 100 points for truth and emotional sincerity, you pass the class
@@damone7524 I mean it’s just an upsetting situation period
Let's be real...Travis signed a contract that said he'd give some namesake to the concert.. but this was LiveNation! Ofc white American will let the black man take the fall
They got a month of headspace.
I can wrap my head around it. "NAW AND WE STILL SNEAKING THE WILD ONES IN!!!" Travis deleted tweet. He prepared these people for death and invited it into his venue.
The problem isn’t with “mosh pits” being unsafe, I’ve been apart of a fair share in my life and I’ve experienced nothing but absolute care for one another in the cathartic chaos of a mosh pit. The problem was with the planning and how many people were rushing the stage which just created a deadly environment. Not to mention their ability to respond appropriately.
Also, bands of genres where mosh pits are very common (metal, punk, etc.) constantly remind the audience to pick people up, if someone falls down.
Mosh pits at rap shows/large scale events are an entirely different animal imo. They aren't slam dancing yanno. The explanation of what a mosh pit is in the Three 6 Mafia track Mosh Pit w/ Josey Scott & Lil Wyte is more accurate. Juicy J: "For those of ya'll who don't know what a mosh pit is - It's just a bunch of drunk ignant mufuckas gettin' the shit whooped outta dem to some music you know what I'm sayin'"
We should differentiate between a mosh pit and a crush pit.
The care that people show in mosh pits, that you so claim we’re not shown at that astroworld concert. The fans are to blame too
@@Articfly blaming the fans for being at a horribly planned event that led to many of them dying is a really strange take.
I saw baby keem a few weeks ago and I really do think astroworld had an effect on the concert, I’ve never been to a concert before where they had a 20 minute interlude and gave everyone free waters and had water cups ready to go at the bar the entire night, so hopefully this situation will at least make concert goers be treated like real people instead of dehydrated packed in sheep
Damn that sounds amazing. Most concerts I've been too, even recently, you have to wait in line for 30 fucking minutes to get water. And of course the bar is the only place you can get water. It's borderline dangerous and I hate any venue that is run like that.
lucky i wanna see baby keem live so bad how was it??
@@RiZeLegiT It was so fun he had us moshing and jumping up and down but also slowed it down for his more introspective songs and he rapped every lyric and gave carti esc screams, family ties might’ve been the most fun I’ve had at a live concert and his next tour is only gonna be bigger
I went to a festival where they where handing out free energy drinks but charging $4 for a 20oz bottle of water in the middle of July. Surprised no one died that night.
FFS PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE the farm animal feeling is terrifying and just not cool considering the $$$ flowing in they can afford to at least hand out some fucking water.
"But muh profits" 😭
This interview was dumb for him to do. Of course he was going to say he doesn’t take responsibility, he’s in a $10B lawsuit, plus he’s a bad public speaker and didn’t say anything we didn’t already know. Completely unforced error on his part.
Half the interview he spent saying “you know”
@@Carl-J ya know?
Ppl don’t realize he is Socially awkward af 😂 but he truly loves his fans and music and that’s the only time you see him go crazy or jus vibe but any videos of him jus in public he’s a introvert he’s always been like that so I can definitely see him not ever coming back out into the public because he’s not ready for that heat and drama this is a horrible situation for both parties
@@quionedavis3202 horrible situation for the Family’s and lost ones. Don’t you open up that window
@@quionedavis3202 Nah you can open that window
Travis doesn't understand that he can't be a voice for the victims when he is already the voice of the villain.
Smart statement
Imagine paying 2000 dollars to die at a mumble rapping auto crooner concert. Jesus Christ what a fucked up situation
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 travis is not a mumble rapper lmao
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 There's a difference between Trap rapper and a Mumble rapper
@@losskamp Naww he just relies so heavily on that AT that he sounds like he's in EDM genre 😆. Cher would be proud 🤣. At least T-Pain knows how to sing.
Travis knows the only way to save his reputation is to join BTS
A win-win for both parties. BTS having killas on the squad will give em real edge
The thought of dying such an excruciatingly painful death from something like crowd crush makes me want to cry. 10 people have died because of that night and over 300 were injured, and Travis Scott went to a party at Dave & Busters after the concert. If he experienced even a small fraction of the amount pain and fear all those people felt that night, he would beg to face consequences for his involvement in the tragedy that took place that night.
Wasn’t it 8
@@chomply 2 died later unfortunately
Did he know people were dead immediately after the concert? Perhaps he went to a friends house to cool off, there happened to be a party there? All this judging on his part is kinda stupid. Yeah hes the name attached to the convert, but hes a performer lol, hes on stage strung out with strobe lights going on, nobody expects him to be the security detail at a concert, and the actual venue should be set up in a way that promotes free flow of traffic, and their venue limit should take into account people being trampled. Many things he obviously is not an expert on, or responsible for.
@@maximyles He still could’ve stopped the show. There were signs he clearly ignored.
he literally said he went to the party without knowing, he stated that as soon as he knew he left
There was also an eerily similar tragedy in 2000 at the Roskilde festival, during Pearl Jam's concert. Ten people died - 9 at the festival, 1 later at the hospital. The only difference between the two incidents was that Pearl Jam did their damn best to get people to stop pushing up to the front, with Eddie Vedder saying pleadingly "on the count of three, take three steps back, ok? One, step back, two, step back, three, step back. Ok, one more time" and going on like that over and over and over again, his voice growing more and more panicked and desperate. And what did Travis Scott do? He looked at the ambulance, said something like "woooww, everything ok?" And then went on with the show while people were screaming for their lives.
Weirdly, in the music video that Travis released on the day of the Astroworld tragedy, he was wearing a Pearl Jam T-shirt
“Stick a middle finger in the sky if you’re good” - can you imagine that being one of the last things you ever hear as you’re crushed to death? Jesus.
@@ninoid51 Yeah I know, but since a lot of people love Pearl Jam - one of them being me - I wouldn't entertain that thought too much tbh. It was probably just a coincidence - a weird and creepy one, yes - but a coincidence nonetheless.
@@baL88537 Pearl Jam literally have hundreds of millions of fans all over the world, so it's not strange at all that Travis would also be a fan of theirs. I'm not defending his actions because what he's done is disgusting, but I don't buy that devil worship b***s***. Like he's just a sh***y person with a god complex, and you're just feeding his ego by spreading that devil worship cr*p around.
@@herefortheshrimp1469 he never said put your middle finger to the sky if you’re good.
Even if all his defenders are right, and he truly didn’t notice anything or didn’t understand the extent, the fact that he went to party at Dave & Busters after is a little bit hard to ignore
And what are you doing after the incident? Sitting at home and crying all day?
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 If I was an artist and some of MY fans died at MY concert, I'd cry till dehydrated. That's just me though.
@@MYNAMEISKLAY sure sure sure. You’re Jesus, everyone else is Hitler.
@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 I'd be concerned if hundreds of people had gotten fucked up at MY concert and shit's making international news. I'd be with my lawyers and in the hospital, 'figuring it out' as its happening. And I certainly wouldn't let it be known where I was blowing off steam.
@@MYNAMEISKLAY people die everyday. Nobody cares. You just love it when you can judge and judge and judge.
It’s all bullshit. You whine about Travis Scott and yet you elect bigger killers to public office. Travis Scott is GOD compared to Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
I just finished Bojack Horseman and I can really see a parallel to the "interview after I've done something bad"
I went to warped tour in 2008 and All Time Low was playing, wasnt a fan, just passed by, and experienced them stopping their performance due to an audience member attacking a female and the guitarist grabbed the mic and said he was going to throw his guitar through his chest like a javelin if the crowd didn't get him out of the audience.
I GOT YOUR PICTUUUURE IM COMING WITH YOUUUUU
@@SilvioPorto MY GUITAR'S A JAVELIN
lmao
Bad example given the recent allegations LMAO
Woman*
I don't think it should be viewed as an "it was bad but at least" type way. It shouldn't have to come to that for concert goers to learn to be aware and for artists and organizers to know how much responsibility they have. Where people have lost their lives, there are absolutely no positives and no silver linings. One life lost is one too many.
exactly!
In a perfect world, of course. But sadly it DID happen and like all tragedies the only way to make sense of them is to find a silver lining in order to cope. It should have never happened in the first place but now we can only hope people will learn from this and be more aware.
@@paola6812 What I'm responding to with this are comments that are trivializing the issue by saying it was in any way good or something that helps. Try saying to the relatives of the victims "well it was a tragedy and your child/sibling/partner/parent died but at least it will help make future concerts more safe!".
Learn from it, yes absolutely. But calling any AVOIDABLE loss of lives a silver lining is an insult to the victims and their families.
it took 9/11 for airport security and tsa..........
@@DallMyD3lvis don't really think people should be comparing this to 9/11 at all. Its not the same. This tragedy was a completely avoidable and unnecessary loss of life.
As the families of the people who died well know, there is no “solution” to people being dead. You can’t “fix” that.
U want him to say that? Lol
@@DEY-G yes
@@Murmurrr Owned
True, but not all the victims of the event or crowd crush died.
@@Murmurrr if he said it just like that with no filler, people would probably respect him more and his career could have a chance of making a comeback.
Dudes. I wear glasses. I used to be very heavy in the Chicago underground scene. If my GLASSES got knocked off my face I would be able to recover them. Everytime. They'd get booted off by a surfer or just hit off - plus I am all sweaty... And I shit you not,Everytime it happened I would be able to recover them. Looking back on it, I always thought "well, there they go. Gone forever" and bam, crowd parts, 3 people start reaching down for me. And before I know my glasses would be back on my face.
The culture needs to mature at these shows. It needs to change. It isn't worth it.
What do you expect at this at this kind of sh*tty autotune "rap" concert? Some of the worst music out there that's embraced by tasteless kids in a climate of utter narcissistic sub-mediocrity. People literally dancing next to people passed out on the ground, Travis egging on more carnage.. pos got off on it, I swear.
This generation lacks a lot of respect
@@elliotthedissident6077 you sound like my dad when I told him about the shows I went to. The music isn't sophisticated enough for you ... Okay. It's sophisticated enough for kids, teens, some adults and obviously lots and lots of people. Your hot take on the quality of music effecting the culture around it is... Dumb as shit.
Saw Jpegmafia in Chicago a few years back and my phone got knocked out of my hand while holding it up to take a picture. 3 dudes cleared the area that it fell in and grabbed it for me. Then back to moshing
@@ant3352 He'd probably also tell you that rap is dead now and that old school rap was the best even though old school inspired rap still exists today lmao. He very cleary doesn't know shit about hip-hop/rap.
Travis is almost unrecognizable without the autotune. It really breaks my immersion.
cool story
Bro😂😂
Straight up!
@@neilb3332 way to miss the joke.
@@anthoonius_gabagoolius ha ha so funny !!
*549* is the number of times Travis Scott has said "you know" in this 51 minute interview. Let's say it takes 1 second to say "you know", that means he spent 9 minutes and 9 seconds of this interview by saying it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
r/theydidthemath
Bro 💀
my god you counted them all wtf
He must have a shit lawyer if they let him do that interview. What is crazy is when you look at recent festival tragedies all the tops ones are fire. The ones that are trample/crush are all about the same death toll 9-11 people. And reading reports of those crushed cases they all appear to be lack of security or poorly managed infrastructure. The band Who concert only had 25 officers for crowd control as one example. These festival deaths have been known about and the reasons behind them clear. If you have trample death it is mostly likely lack of staff. There is reports of people working there that didn't even show their ID and they were security. Travis and the production company cheaped out hoping to pocket the profits. The courts need to make an example out of Travis and this production company, they need to send a message to anyone else trying to reduce safty for profits. A lot of people have trauma now too, imagine seeing someone die in front of you when you just wanted to have fun. Make them pay (in money no blood).
Paragraphs would go a long way
Here is the thing though...he WANTED and INSISTED on doing this interview.
I feel like this interview went great for him, people needed to hear some of his side...
@@terryjohnson4906 you know, my fans are very important to me, you know. Their suffering is my suffering, you know. I hope i can do something to heal them, you know...
At first I thought you meant deaths on the scale of 9/11, which is about how many people were killed in the crush at Mecca in 2015. I'm not trying to say 10 people dying is not a big deal, but hundreds or thousands do die in crowd crushes sometimes
If one of my guests at our wedding business got injured or sick, we'd be sued no doubt.. It'll blow my mind if these companies don't get lawsuits like crazy, including Travis Scotts prod. Company, it's unbelievable how everyone failed so miserably
There's 100s of lawsuits?
@@brazenlilhussy5975 *successful lawsuits.
Anyone with enough money can hire lawyers that'll win numerous defenses, but this case is brutal
@@QuixEnd I agree man, there's been no time for them to be even heard yet.. so putting succesful/unsuccessful beside don't mean much, yet. The greasy wheels of 'justice' turn slowly. I'm not disagreeing with you at all..it's an awful disgrace just how many ppl had to be asleep at the wheel for this to even be possible..
Edit...Lol..my bad man, I heard so much 'legalese' in the last 12 mths I'm starting to speak it (badly.. lol)
I’m not even sure what he was trying to accomplish with this interview. For legal reasons he can’t say what people want him to, so why even bother?
So he can drop that album
@@malcolmxpanther 🤢🤮
Clean up his image
As a Mechanical engineer, I'd say his analogy about safety was spot-on.
Agreed, as a fellow mechanical engineer!
whos analogy?travis or fantano?
As a mechanical engineering drop out, I wish I had finished my degree
@@lean.2366 as someone who could never even begin that degree path due to my mathematical retardation, good job
@@mixerbb2445 ligma
Travis shares responsibility with the organizers, venue, etc. How much of it he holds will be determined in court. I think people who say he holds all responsibility and people saying he holds none are crazy.
His responsibility is very close to 100% considering he's the organizer too, had stopped the concertsl before to get his shoes from the crowd (as in he had the ability to stop it). The only fault of the venue was to still work with travis considering the previous incidents on his concerts and how he recommended people to do dangerous things like jump over balconies or try to dodge security and enter even if they didn't have a ticket causing overcrowding possibly
@@MadhavThankasala-hk7bd did you not read my comment? He IS the organizer
It seems that the direct cause of the problem was crowd control, or lack thereof. That’s mostly dealt with before anybody shows up, it’s a design issue. Travis should’ve done everything he could’ve to prevent deaths, but the design of the venue isn’t his fault.
@@manaspradhan8041 what 💀 nah he isnt, he’s simply the performer. Travis doesn’t oversee things like that in a big scale. All that is put on organizers such as live nation
@@manaspradhan8041 Live Nation was the Organizer, not Travis Scott
I've been a backstage worker in the music industry my entire adult life and am thinking of quitting and finding a new career because of things like this happening. The level of unprofessional and reckless behavior in the past few months has been worse than it **ever** was in pre-pandemic times. A mass casualty event like this was completely unnecessary, and everyone who was paying attention in the production world had a feeling something horrible like this would happen. If anyone has a link to somewhere I could donate money to the families and the injured, please comment with a link. No amount of money can fix this. Money can't buy life. We *CAN NOT* allow something like this to happen again, ever.
Be the change you want to see mate if the industry is so unprofessional do something about it don’t just quit
@@CLairsoftFTW You're right.
@@ranivacar In hindsight, yes. If the people who actually do give a shit give up now, things won't get better.
Yeah, I was at summer smash a couple months before this, a bunch of stage-rushers for uzi. And there were crowd surges, I was taken off my feet a couple times, the crowd would get to moving like a tidal wave before he even came on
It really hurts my fukin heart everytime I think about being one of those people. Unimaginable horror
The Bad Bunny concert was held up here in Puerto Rico over the weekend. 35k people at the Hiram Birthorn baseball field and everyone was scared it was gonna be Astroworld all over again. Instead, even if the first day the entering logistics were dogshit, everyone was so understanding. At the line, a couple of people fainted because we were piled up like sardines, but each time the response from the crowd was quicker. Bad Bunny at one point stopped the show mid-song because people on the front were letting him know a light caught fire. Overall, the crowd was all well aware of the risks and were acting quickly, as well as Bad Bunny, which I think came in part because of this incident. Apart from a couple people fainting, there were no casualties on the event.
Baseball court? The fuck
@@williamsmithington3157 its bad bunny lmao don't expect a good venue
@@HOWZERGOD Love people that talk shit without knowing lol. Puerto Rico doesn't have big arenas or venues that can hold more than 18.5k people. Plus, this isn't the first concert that was held up on the Hiram Birthorn. Artists have performed there since the 60s, like The Jackson Five in 1973, Ozzy Osbourne in 1984, Sting the year after, Bon Jovi several times, Whitney Houston in 1994-hell, even Metallica was scheduled to play during their Nowhere Else to Roam tour in 1993, but had to cancel because it rained. More recent performances include Shakira in 2000 and 2003, as well as Rihanna in 2013. Artists nowadays just prefer to perform on the designated venue, which is el Choliseo José Miguel Agrelot with a previously mentioned capacity of 18.5k people. Meanwhile, Bad Bunny managed to fill at capacity the 35k limit of the Hiram Birthorn court for two days: 70k people, including locals and visitors from around the world. Say what you want, but I expect nothing less from an artist at his current level.
@@prismatropical idek why i commented that shi sorry bout that i just hate the guy lok
It shouldn't be on the people who attend to be better than whatever they were before - the people running the event are entirely responsible for that, not needing to be a thing at all (within reason).
In all honesty there's literally nothing that this man can say to make people feel better from this tragedy besides let the people grieve. Especially since he's going through major litigation there's only so much he can say without incriminating himself.
Yea he was better off not doing the interview
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When all this Astroworld stuff started happening the first line I thought of from him was "it ain't a mosh pit if ain't no injuries".
- Someone that has never been in a moshpit
But the moshpits didnt cause deaths at astroworld. There was literally no space to even move where people died
Most of them don't have injuries usually. Superficial maybe, but nothing like this. I've never felt more cared for by my fellow humans than at punk shows. You are obviously an aficionado. What punk shows have you been to?
Followed by "i got em stage diving out the nose bleeds"... In 2017 a guy was pushed off a balcony at his show, broke his ankle and is still partially paralyzed
We raged in the late 90s the 2000s and 2010s the difference is the performer and the people in the mosh pit all had respect for each other. If someone saw something they’d help if the performer saw something they’d stop the concert and say something. It’s called respect mosh pits and raging isn’t the issue it the lack of respect for each other. His team not cutting corners and not paying enough staff or paying people at all was the problem. Again a respect issue because they want to take everyone money but not provide proper security.
charlemagne did a terrible job. if it was somebody else he'd have been all down travis' throat w those questions. he literally finished off some of his answers when trav started getting into the "you know", "um"s, etc
This was discussed and rehearsed before the cameras rolled lol charlemagne did exactly what they told him to do
Someone was paralyzed at a Travis concert before and he did not make any changes. This just shows that he cares most about public opinion and safety is not a priority
They should be able to create infrared sensors that detect how dense a crowd is and play a siren and immediately stop the music when a crush is occuring. Hopefully people will react in a safe and appropriate measure if they treat it like a fire drill / fire emergency because they are clearly equally as dangerous. Crushes happen yearly all over the globe. Mecca is a place where it tragically happens often due to poor crowd control. This is a problem with a solution we just need to implement.
That’s ur millionaire idea bro, don’t tell the internet, someone gonna steal ur idea lol
@@Thedeathdump I was just thinking this!
Thank you for this great analyze of the interview. I found it really disturbing to see how little accountability that man is taking for HIS festival - great example with the car shop.
Bruh, you know you messed up when Lil Pump saves a London teen having a seizure and noticed it in a very large condensed crowd. Also saying "YEAH... yeaaaaaaah yeah" as someone is passed out with the neck leaned back being unresponsive.
Zero deaths 21 years in a row at The Gathering of the Juggalos
Travis Scott making juggalos look good
Other than ODs.
That crowd was probably 500 people
Is that true? Or do you mean no avoidable deaths? Seems like in 21 years eventually someone will have an issue like a heart attack or Aneurysm and die.
Honestly I believe that if Travis were to have another festival there'd be a lot of outrage online, but it'd still be massively successful.
Literally no dude. And I'm a fan. Unless he's performing at a Walmart car park
Yea it would sell out. But it would have to be at the LA coliseum were people can sit done.
Let’s just hope no one books him
Yeah I agree. There are so many completely ignorant and uncaring people out there they could probably run something like this again and just outright ignore criticism
I’d go, this wasn’t Travis’ fault it was the thousands of people who broke the law by breaking in the festival without a ticket
Can’t wait for the MuchDank video of Travis Scott figuring things out.
If he wanted to be the voice for victims, he could’ve done it when he had a microphone in his hand and those victims were right in front of him. But he didn’t want to listen then and now he just wants to offer up these BS platitudes.
Bro THANK YOU. People saying Travis doesn’t have any blame in this, at the very least he could have helped coordinate the ambulance through (besides one single sentence and a 45 second pause) and helped get the bodies out the the crowd besides being bodysurfed, which can really fuck someone up if they’ve got broken bones.
Dude had the mic and the influence of the whole crowd… they came to see him and he had the loudest voice out of everyone…. And he chose not to help. That’s on him
@@unitedleagueofgamers3633 he literally said in the interview that he couldn't see or hear anything
@@Taha-178 did you watch this video by any chance? Or the concert footage? Or did you just take Travis at his word😬
Do you know how much shit goes on on stage: the bassey music, the earpieces with the operator and so he can hear himself, and the crazy flame machines on stage and shit. He also helped some victims on top of all that if you search for the footage. He could’ve done better but still.
travis constantly saying he’s “going to figure this out” and “find the solutions” feels as vague to me as when kylie said 2016 was the “year of realizing things”
man I'm so fucking pissed off I can't see dislikes anymore. I'm always curious how many people disagree with Melon and empathize with Travis
theres an add-on for browsers that bypasses that, 558 dislikes atm
Travis needs to take some accountability. Him trying to dodge legal and financial responsibility for his concert at his festival is just not right. Step up, be an adult, admit you were wrong, and try to make it right.
If he does that can be used in court so that would be a pretty stupid thing to do
@@arithesheep5506 Facts that's dumb as hell. If he tries to take "responsibility" he gonna a lot of money.
You act like he murdered those people with his own hands. He messed up yeah but what is he supposed to admit to? He should’ve stop the festival.. but he’s not the reason those people died. IMO
@@B33ZY101 No it's not it's the fans and the venue runners fault mostly but it is partly his fault too so it's everyone's fault
"An ambulance don't really have like red and blue lights"
Do you need to go back to kindergarten?
When Travis was talking about figuring things out and finding solutions, he prolly meant his brand and music career.
Everything in this video, spot on. One note, Travis will still have festivals. As long as there is monetary incentive People will still host him🤷♀️
The dudes as deep as his music
ouch
Travis said “ya know” so many times, I almost thought I damn knew
When plagiarizing a top comment, at least alter it a bit to make it not a direct copy. Just a suggestion.
@@YogSoth .
Imagine stealing comments and reposting them on the same comment thread
Down bad
@@APOLOGHEEBOI imagine taking the time to reply to someone else’s comment🥱
@@jackevans2546 well you just did it
I figured things out for Travis: in advance of large crowd gatherings you make risk assessments. Don't cut (financial) corners which negatively impact control or move to plan B, smaller venue, smaller crowd for example.
You mean you figured things out for live nation, not Travis? All those things you just mentioned would not have been Travis Scott’s responsibility.
Fantano is jealous of Travis Scott's epic robot dance
Spittin facts
You know it's serious when Fantano has the loveless lights on in the background.
Been waiting for this
Sorry Anthony, i think your too optimistic. This is going to blow over. His reputation is probably damaged in the public now and in the forseeble future, but like so many celebrities and artist before him, he will come back. Maybe not bounce back, and probably not in a year or two, but the wider public forgets, and Travis is too profitable and popular to fail. I wish causing death to multiple people, would end a career, but it doesn't. There is simply too much money being printed, and that has made Travis irreplaceable. He will be hated for the rest of his career by those who try to remember. While the rest however, will most likely just not skip nor care when a Travis Scott song comes on Spotify's "Chill alternate lofi hip hop space theme for gen abcd" playlist.
Nah because most normal people don't blame the performer when a crowd of 50k gets too rowdy.
@@tobiramasenju6290 the public response is more nuanced than that, and you know that, stop.
@@Kaz999998 the public response will always be astride the savouriest of news pieces. Head of security being remiss of his duties is less attractive than famous rapper responsible for the deaths of almost a dozen.
Eh it's life. It is what it is.
@@tobiramasenju6290 I know its more complicated than "artist bad", its just frustrating how fast the we forget.
Don’t forget the part where he mentioned that barometric wrist bands will help prevent a future Astro world tragedy! Seriously, almost fell out of my chair when TS said that in the CTG interview. 🤣
Travis is going to have to start an Only Fans if he loses all of these lawsuits.
Cap
surely the event organisers share a part of the costs? or maybe im just stupid
he's not gonna lose
@@philanderer23 Last I checked it was his festival. He ultimately called the shots so he has to assume full responsibility
Fantanos analogy to a car company reminds me of the scandal that VW had about the cars being programmed to cheat at smog tests or something. VW ended up pushing the blame on the engineers and soft balled taking any actual responsibility. I hope that Travis takes responsibility and tries to do something meaningful.
The interview was sponsored by the phrase “You Know”
Big You Know is making bank from this interview
Dattebayo
July 2023 and people already forgot about it and hes doing shows like if nothing happened, I've seen people in comment sections joking about the victims, I am extremely disgusted.
Yes the buck ultimately falls on him, though as someone who works live shows and understands that, for almost every division in labor (security, stage, scenic, tech, etc) it’s a totally separate company contracted for the job, there’s multiple companies that could also be culpable. For instance: crowd control. Could Astroworld (the company) have trusted that crowd control company to keep the audience safe as they entered, based on all the available data they had and they failed? Or did Astroworld find the cheapest company to get the job done, give them barely any details, and that company did the best they could? Who was the heads of Astroworld making these calls? Unless you’re really in the industry you have no idea just how many roles there are behind the scenes to make sure this all happens as it’s supposed to. I think until you get all the details from when these trials play out in court, it’s hard to squarely put blame on Travis tbh. But I understand the frustration that fans have towards him and his poor responses so far. Truth be told just the technical details alone that go into a festival completely goes over an artist’s head. And that’s not me saying artist’s are stupid, it’s me saying that, the details go so far beyond, and are so much more complicated than putting up some fence, a stage, lights, led walls and some speakers.
I think the issue is encouraging this rage behavior incorrectly but even so directly stating to his fans to break in, in his songs, promoting to younger audiences, his past actions, his past arrest( and still not learning). His documentary. This is was about money and always was. Now it’s how to actually protect the money. He and his fellow company dealings will all go down. But doing an interview to clear YOUR name although you own and created ASTROWORLD is bullshit and insensitive. His partnership will that therapy company was a scam, and insensitive. I think he’s making this worst for himself . Celebrities are not just above the basic law( maybe in California).
I get what you're saying, but as both part-owner of the festival AND the performer who failed to influence the crowd to avoid tragedy, he's fucked, and he deserves it.
As for the other companies, don't worry, the lawyers are well aware that they have a lot more money than Travis Scott.
Ding ding ding
Bro why you looking so dapper in this video?! Mustache + collared polo smoove lil combo mate
Thank god you summarized it for me instead of me watching the whole hr
There have been so many raging concerts before him. Dmx, Jayz, carti, uzi, Wayne have all had crazy concerts but I can assure you nobody died.The problem is Travis Scott and the environment he creates in his concerts
Almost half a million people showed up to EDC this year and there were no reported deaths there either
@@hokuwong meh ppl more or less stand around and take pictures showing they’re at EDC, not much raging like at Travis Scott/Uzi/ Playboi Carti concerts.
I’ve never heard of anyone dying at Death Grips concert, end of discussion tbh
I’m pretty sure the “problem” was communicated day 1, there was a stampede which in turn created crowd crush, simple and logical. But it seems like every comment I read tryna put blame on Travis is coming from peoples feelings and emotions not facts. To say “the problem is Travis Scott and the environment he creates in his concerts” when he has almost a decade of live showings and no deaths until now literally destroys what you just said. This was all circumstance, a combination of different factors created this situation not the single artist performing a high energy show in the night with flashing lights and seemingly majority crowd of ppl enjoying themselves. You should watch Washington posts “Astroworld timeline” video, it’s gives a great breakdown of Live Nations terrible venue layout and more that created this mess.
18 months later and travis is headlining multiple festivals in europe this summer (not sure about north america), hope everyone stays safe
Travis legit did the robot as one of the crowd members was having cpr
Im loving the stache fantano
Not to say "It's a totally worthless interview and Charlamagne did a terrible job."
great points as always
Travis Scott might as well have topped his interview off with “Oh by the way, the album is still coming out in 2022. See ya on the other side.”
Yikes.
Love the polo shirt Anthony 😍
I'm just so sad, Travis has inspired me so much. I don't know what to think
People aren't just good or bad. You can remember and respect good things about Travis, while still acknowledging that he's done bad things. Don't put him on a pedestal or idolize him; learn from the good things he's done AND the bad things he's done. He's just a guy, and you can choose which parts of him to be inspired by.
He’s just an idiot, it’s still ok to like his music
Listen to Jimmie and not the dipshits below them who just want to hate. Let the courts handle the situation.
You can admire the art and ambition without admiring a person's actions. There have been a lot of shitty people to make amazing music over the years; Travis is another one, and there will be more. Heroes are human, too, and it's okay to admire someone's good qualities and work while acknowledging their faults, however serious. You're the one that defines the line of how bad a person must be to taint their art.
Sincerely, a Kanye West fan.
He a mortal man. Nothing more.
good video fantano
Yeah, don't think I can listen to this dude's music anymore. And I can often separate the artist from the art...but not when the art itself is directly tied to several people's death. And the lack of genuine remorse is just scary. I feel like some celebrities get wayyy too big and they just don't have the mental/emotional foundation to deal with it.
First Fantano video that I liked and didn’t annoy me
The fucking audacity to cause all this injury and death with his negligence and then turn around and say he wants to be “the voice of the victims” or whatever is insane. Absolutely despicable
He’s not the sole or even the one most accountable for this.
He is absolutely one of the most responsible. Do some fucking research.
I don't think he was the cause. Seems like the rowdy people were the cause.
That's like blaming the Saints if New Orleans burned to the ground after a superbowl victory.
@@tobiramasenju6290 he incited them to be rowdy completely and purposely
Good take as always
I was on board with the “Travis is fully responsible” narrative, but after seeing the footage and taking everything into account , Live nation is by far most culpable.
They were massively unprepared and ignored safety measures: 50,000 packed in with shortages of security and space. Couldn’t even let fans enter through metal detectors.
Travis past actions to incite fans have been dangerous but to my knowledge he’s been relatively calm during shows compared to what he used to be. At Astroworld he didn’t incite any chaotic behavior, he just played his music like normal. His fanbase are mostly 16-24 year olds who aren’t known for being mature so they seek out doing crazy things at shows, just as they would at an Uzi/Carti concert.
The only argument that makes sense to blame him a lot is if he knew what was going on and decided not to do anything, which we’ll find out eventually
This is the most logical comment I've seen
People blame him because he ENCOURAGED the overcrowding by telling people to break down the barricades and sneak into the concert without paying. That’s Travis Scott’s fault not livenation
@@garrettmarple2819 travis never told anyone directly to storm the stage and bypass security at this festival
@@garrettmarple2819 plus tge venue wasn't overcrowding the venue is big enough to carry 200,000 people is was solely the barricades that fucked it up
I wonder if the people that actually rushed the stage feel they’re at any fault.
BINGO
No insurance company will ever back a Travis Scott show.
Until it's like 5 years later and the cost is clear that is, but not in the next few years
good video bro
It annoys me that people focus so much on a person with a public face, the celebrity, and it's not that I want them off the hook, I don't care, it's that the faceless people working in the organisation of the event are probably even more responsible than Travis himself for the actual minutiae of logistics, and they are let off the hook. People should want the names, the list of the people involved and their responsibilities, and bring every one of them to public justice.
And also, while you can point out most concerts end safely, who knows how many concerts ended safely - but had the potential not to? I still think it's wild that you don't have an endless list of safety regulations that were broken in this case and you leave it to the private company to calculate whether skimming on safety is worth the risk or not. But that's America, I guess, leaving everything, including safety, to the profit-motivated private sector and to civilians to demand justice through costly and time-consuming lawsuits.
If a city doesn't have enough firefighters are you going to blame the few who are there or the ones responsible for hiring then?
@@MrJessebo good point
@@MrJessebo The ones responsible. And I highly doubt that Travis Scott was the one hiring the ground workers. He is a highly placed cog, but still a cog, in a complex machine that involves labels, sponsors, managers, venue operators, promoters, security firms, etc. etc. Deals were signed, decisions were made, money changed multiple hands multiple times - and during those multiple times lax logistics and security was either approved or ignored (or, god forbid, encouraged) by multiple people.
This was not a small indie concert in a local pub but a huge operation.
@@Medytacjusz your point is excellent and i fully agree- however, what you’re asking for is the exact reason why america is built the way it is. the facelessness and size of the money trail are designed to dissolve responsibility. the human brain has a hard time parsing all that, so instead you throw a cog out to the wolves and it keeps the masses somewhat satisfied that ‘justice’ has been served. it’s the same story in every industry over and over again, 2008 housing collapse, BP oil spill, Enron scandal, Opioid epidemic; shit, even our politics work the same.
@@Gamer123e4 things seem to only become more polarized with time too because the masses are fed up & mostly unable to realize many of the issues they/we want to place the contention on are all tributaries of the same shit river. Until the masses develop a system to band together and demand mass real accountability, nothing will change & the root of classist control and injustice will continue
The "get to the bottom of this" comment is crazy because we already have. We have decades old research on how to avoid tragedies like this. The science is very clear on how these things should be organized to ensure the safety of all involved. What happened is that everyone was either ignorant of these guidelines or ignored them out of convience.
Anthony stop talking I’m trying to watch the interview
loving the sweater, good look on you bro
its pretty simple. if people are breaking through your security and hundreds if not thousands of people are there without a ticket the show must not be held. after seeing footage of the security getting destroyed by a stampede of people thats really all I needed to see.
needed more security not travs fault
I have no idea why security or the Houston Police Department didn’t say a thing. They just let it all happen.
I mentioned this on a different video & you pretty much also summed it up. Legally he can’t say much or apologize bc he can’t admit fault w/out losing all these lawsuits. But bc Of that, it makes this interview a waste of time , he’s not saying anything & I understand wanting to improve your image but it’s way too soon for that right now. All this interview does is make Travis Scott look all the more worse.
His comment on “rage culture” not causing this, he has to say that, but it’s things like that that make me not like him. Of course your stupid rage culture and it’s multiple histories of injury people contributed a huge part to this. Do you not remember the fan that was paralyzed? Or when you encouraged the crowd to “fuck up” a guy who tried to steal your shoe?
Travis would have been so much better off not saying anything right now
It kinda terrifies me how many clowns are supporting Travis and even trying to make him out to be a victim. When the fuck are the working class going to stop sympathizing with millionaires and billionaires who see them as literally disposable capital and labor?
So blame Live Nation. The multinational corporation responsible.
@@benwagner2000 facts. And blame Travis for encouraging people to sneak in and act dumb. He could've really made up for it by helping the families but he just doesn't want them touching his money.
Its live nation fault not travis
@@deeznauts6543 people would sneak in anyway
@@losskamp it was Travis' event. He hired live nation
Travis also said “WHO ASKED ME TO STOP?” when people asked him to.
That's not true he said 2 hands to the sky
@@lilcuku3256 there’s another clip from the same night where he said “who asked me to stop” look it up. yeah he also said “middle finger to the sky” when the ambulance was trying to help someone.
@@gabi2k16 no if u watch the livestream he said 2 hands to the sky and his dj was saying 2 hands up yall 2 hands up
Anthony, it's difficult to listen to what you're saying about this very serious topic when you're dressed like Dennis The Menace
I was just about to disagree but then remembered their are two Dennis the Menaces and I was thinking about the one in overalls.
For everybody here that wonder why he did not say sorry in many occasion it is because if he say sorry it can be use against him as indication that you held responsibility in Astroworld tragedy and can be sentenced for a long time behind bars, that is something that his lawyer suggest I guess to avoid the law. It is a real law thing.
Soon as I got wind of this interview I couldn’t wait for melon to weigh in
There was an AD before this video with a song that was going like ''tutu-ALRIGHT, tutu-ALRIGHT''' as soon as I skipped the add fantano went ''Alright'' and I was like ''Aaaalright lol''
Anthony, 10 people died. Playing sicko mode on repeat for 12 minutes straight is a bit inappropriate.
Underrated comment
Lowkey the mustache is growing on me I see you my boy
Fantano with the full Chris Chan fit
I never wanna pass judgement on how someone chooses to grieve, but travis didn't tell me what I wanted to hear.
I'm still disappointed in him, I hope this whole thing hits him true, with all of the legalities he could be numb.
In the interview he speaks on how he views his performances as performance art and wanting to stop the show in such away that doesnt take away from the performance. Overall I think he was being ignorant and chose to continuing performing since no one else shut off the show, it still wasn't purposeful but it was definitely the final decision of his musical career.