Dell OptiPlex Case Swaps Just Got A Lot Easier
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Today I'm reviewing a cool product, from a company called Harbin Repairs, that makes swapping your Dell OptiPlex into a new case, a whole lot easier. Better yet, I'm giving away some of these kits in this video. This is NOT a paid review and the product was not provided to me. As always, all my opinions of the product are my own. Check down below to see how to enter the giveaway.
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0:00 - Case Swaps Can Be A PITA
0:27 - Disclaimer: NOT A Paid Review
0:54 - What OptiPlex Models Do These Work With?
1:32 - Short Unboxing
2:05 - A Closer Look At The Adapters
3:13 - Installation & Testing
3:55 - Where Can You Find Them?
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Sorry for all the banging, someone was moving crap around in the room right above me. Anyways, drop a comment and tell me what case you'd like to see me swap and Opti into.
I’m doing one in a cheap Musitex case, nothing too crazy, just enough to leave room for improvement.
@@RespekfulFungus Interesting... never heard of them before.
Really like these videos they are simple and down to the point with no hype or $h!T intros.... Keep up the good work.....
@@charliescharlie3717 Thanks! Will do.
I wish I had ram because mine stop working 🥺
Thanks for the shoutout and review, we hope our adapters helped you out and your followers with their awesome builds!
@HarbinRepairs - We recommend these kits throughout our comunity on FB @ tinyurl.com/y7ezf5nb Check us out!!!
Do you ship to the UK yet?
I helped a friend with his optiplex 7010 and I JUST installed this on my old 7010. I will say the top power switch had to be installed upside down for it to work. Other then that it’s all good. When it’s right side up you don’t have any control over the power switch. No idea but it works upside down just fine. It’s a game changer to transform the opti into something more useable and aesthetically pleasing.
I have ordered 2 sets of your pins and I have done 2 case swaps. They are the needed tech to do the job right! Thank you
Thank you for making this
great video for those who want to swap cases.. i have used the power switch adapter for a few optiplex gen 3 and 4 and it really does work.. the game bench always puts on.. looking forward to watching more of ur content
This is the best channel for converting a dell office pc to a gaming pc, literally anyone could do it with your guides. Not only do you cover how to put in a gpu, but what one to get, how to buy it used AND how to add airflow to the case. Also, this product looks like a great idea, kinda wonder why these weren't made before!
Now to convince my son he needs a new case for his Opti 9020...
I just picked one up for a 9010. Excited to get a case swap going! This really makes it so much easier!
Dude, I just subscribed. This gave me confidence where none resided. You’re seriously killin it💪🏿👏🏿🙌🏿‼️
Thanks! I'm really glad you found my vids useful.
Thanks so much man! I have everything for a 7010 swap already, was just looking for how to do the power switch connectors but I’ll order these here in a bit!
I got mine last week and it's very easy to install. Works perfect for my opti 7020!
I just completed a case swap for my 9020 into a thermaltake case and have had continuous issues trying to get the power button to work, not to mention the front panel I had to gaff into the optical drive cage. I'm very excited to try this out!
Awesome video, I'm definitely buying for my 9020 to put in a be quiet pure base 500d. I never even thought of this being a problem
Thanks for this info! Your Opti review and Mods are the reason I own a 9020.
You're welcome. Glad I could help.
THANK YOU! THIS IS JUST WHAT I NEEDED!!!
Glad I could help.
This is a great find. Thank you so much
VERY cool products. Thank you for pointing these out for us.
Yeah, no problem!
I used one of the 3020 kits about a month ago, super easy to use. Probably gonna order the 7010 kit soon too
I loved the way that you added the dramatic music
i subscribed bc ur content is very detailed and organized. ur so underrated
I’m doing a super budget build right now and all of your videos, especially your cpu and gpu benchmarking one really sealed the deal for starting my project! Thank you man!
Glad I could help!
Buy an LGA1150 motherboard off ebay and a cheap case... lol
Glad to see you making videos again!
Thanks!
wow thanks for this man, makes a case swap for my 3020 MT a lot easier now!
Alright well I twittered (under chalice in chains) because a swap kit adapter would be awesome. This video was great and I look forward to the next video.
Happy new year and hopefully this year is a healthy one for you. Cheers dude
Thank you so much I needed this
Awesome stuff. Thanks! Keep em' coming!
Thanks, will do!
Thanks! I was contemplating a 7010 DT transfer and the only thing stopping me was finding a work around for the USBs and power switch. This is a easy affordable solution.
What type of case did you use? I’m planning to do the same
That's such a great product. I had to use jumper cables to do my case swap from a dell 7010 chassis to a Fractal Design Focus G.
Yeah, I didn't care for case swaps until I saw these because it just didn't seem worth it for most people. At least ones that aren't comfortable splicing up cables.
Been subbed for a few weeks! So excited to get to flipping PCs when GPU prices go down
This is a great video, and great kit!
Thanks! It really is.
This is my second case swap and I am swapping a 7010 this time. Those Harbin Repairs pins are great! Thanks for the info. Another awesome video and info. Great channel! I will post some pics of the swap when I'm done....if I can only figure out why my Twitter is locked???
I just got this exactly what I needed.
its funny that you made this video today, just got my adapter fro my 9020 in yesterday!
This is cool to see, not gonna lie though. The first thing in mind was an adapter to do this the other way around. Newer custom built pcs in an old optiplex case with front panel functionality.
Maybe that's just my admiration for old pc cases showing. Awesome video as usual though. You're gonna help a lot of people bringing these to light.
Yeah, I've always thought that was more interesting. I really like the idea of sleepers.
I like this idea as well. I would like to put an aftermarket motherboard into my Studio XPS 9100
I have a Ryzenplex 5600X/6600 build, the only thing that I haven’t tackled yet is the HDD activity light.
Awesome, I’m getting a 7010 to play with and coming to a Corsair case
That helpful. Now I'll do a swap.Thx.
saw these a week ago. thx for answering my questions.
Any time!
These adapters look awesome, I'll probably get them once I save more money so that I can upgrade my 790 DT completely. Also, great video and keep up the good work.
I cannot thank you enough for this. I'm building a PC with a standard case and an optiplex 7010 motherboard, and my options were looking slim until I found this.
Glad I could help.
Bro do a whole CASE SWAP video using the adapters 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Kuss I’ll mess up
I agree with u, he should do a video about it.
Calling Upon The Dell Factotum himself @TheGameBench
Yes
Agreed
This really helpful
Glad you think so!
Quality vids bro keep it up
YES! Thank you!
My son would love one for his new 9020 MT! Sounds like a great product and looks like a well made adapter!
It definitely is. Enter to win one, it's worth a shot.
How to enter...video mentioned Twitter. Didn’t see your handle.
@@Element_Garage There's a link in the description to my Twitter page, but my handle is @thegamebench
Good luck!
What about the Optiplex XE2? Any tutorials for case swap? Any adapters required/available?
this was so helpful
Thanks! I'm glad I could help.
I bought myself a dell optiplex 9020 cuz of ur vids ❤
Works great on my 9020 in a nexus c case
Just tweeted my 1st build to you to enter it's a 9020 the case I really wanted when I can afford it was the corsair icue 4000x but for now balling on a budget so Amazon special it is. You helped give me confidence to build my own I just hate that a GPU is like $300 rn lol love the content and thanks for the amazing help
Great video!!
I have two Optiplex mid tower 9010’s both with i5’s. I plan on doing a retro build with one with newer hardware. I’ve been watching all of your Optiplex videos including the video about adding air flow. And on that note, I have come up with some fan ideas but have tried it yet. Instead of cutting a hole for a 120 mm fan you can use Dell original cpu cooler fans instead, and if you only use one you can keep the hard drive cage if you so desire. Or remove the hard drive cage and use to fans. The cpu fans are smaller than 80mm, also the rear case fan is a 80mm fan and if you have some extras thes could also be used. Since these are delta fans and they would exceed the two fan headers on the motherboard, you have four sata power plugs in the front of the case.two on top one for the cd drive and an extra at the 5.25 drive bay, and the two on the bottom at the hard drive cages. With the proper adapters you can power one to two delta fans up front with some modding. The cardboard roll Id is the perfect template for cutouts for this style of fan. The speaker and temp sensor doesn’t have to be moved or removed. Since the case isn’t perfectly flat you can make your own stand off’s for the fan to fit the irregularities. I had some rivet nuts laying around and with some small machine screws and nuts this worked perfectly.
The thing I wonder is will two 80mm fans bring in enough air flow for a Asus b550 motherboard w/3700x or higher w/ prism cooler, GTX 1080-2080 or R5, R9 or a 6700xt, 6800xt. Any thoughts?
I'd say no. I built a system at Christmas for my brother and he needed me to keep the hard drive cage. I was putting in an XFX RX 470, so I needed to add a front fan, so I installed a front 80mm. Even with cutting out the material in front of the fan, the 470 got very warm and the GPU fans had to push pretty hard just to keep it under throttle.
Followed many of your builds for the Optiplex. I built my 9 year old a 990 using a Corsair 450M and MTI GTX 1060. All in for under $350. Has has said he wanted to change to a cool case with lights. Hmm... guess I'll have to open Twitter for the first time in 4 years.
great video as usual! that evil face was believable haha
I have done two case swaps with these kits. they rock!
Could you suggest me a case to swaps for my 9010 mt? or I can get whatever I want to?
Anything that can mount a micro ATX board. I can give you some suggestions. What's your budget for the case?
@@TheGameBench no more than 80/70 bucks
@@Rjgi96 Off the top of my head, some really good options would be the Phanteks P300, Zalman S2, Fractal Focus G, and Corsair Spec 04.
@@TheGameBench thank you man!
Theres a OC shop where I live & they have some Optiplex PCs (most have the original HW, but HDDs are removed) for about $10 a piece. Thanks 🤓
Why not the 9020 SFF?
Is it impossible to make such an adapter for some reason?
Whelp, I'm guessing the price of used Opti boards and the CPUs that are compatible with them are going to skyrocket now, especially since everyone is so hungry for any pc they can get there hands on lol. But really though this is a game changer. No more worrying about mangling the case to fit in a full size gpu and having that mess of cables inside the Opti case with an aftermarket psu.
Another amazing review and another item to buy eventually lol
Thanks! You could enter to win one of the kits. It's worth a shot and you might not have to buy the kit.
@@TheGameBench I did enter. Thank you for doing the giveaway, I really appreciate your help here and on the Optiplex Facebook page.
@@TheLinkhawkins Awesome! I'm happy to help. And good luck with the contest.
Awesome !!
I bought a GTX1650 EX Plus GDDR6 4gb and my case is big from another brand when I turn on the computer, the video is not working and the card works normally turns the video card fans, when I remove the battery from the motherboard and put it back in and turn on the PC he gives video detail when I used my old video card r9 380 GDDR5 4gb it from the normal image, but when I turn off the PC I have to do the same procedure mentioned here! The motherboard is up to date, my source is 500w from the Gamemax brand, I changed the battery on the motherboard, I don't know what to doing from Brazil
Just got this kit in today and idk what it did but my PC won't output video when it's hooked up. And also one of my ram slots stopped working.... idk how it's even possible
I know you do all the optiplex vids, but I still love some of the old 2nd and 3rd gen lenovo boards. They were great for case swaps. Power is standard. Mounting holes all standard. USB2 headers are not standard but they have like 2 extra pins. You can just ignore when connecting to them and works perfect. The only thing not standard really is the audio header, and you can buy 99 cent adapters from china for that. Those were and still are some of the best boards for cheap builds. Just wish the lenovo 4th gen boards didn't suddenly become so non standard.
I'm definitely going to start branching out to other OEM systems, as well as some content that's not directed at OEM builds at all. I tend to avoid Lenovo since they went so far the other way recently. It really irked me that they did GPU whitelisting. Makes figuring out which model to get even more of a PITA than the Opti's were. Not saying I won't grab one in the future though. But I will be doing some videos on an HP system soon.
Are there any such reverse kits to fit motherboards into dell cases? As crazy as it sounds, I kinda dig the aesthetic of the Optiplex line and I want that "sleeper pc" in a modern chassis lol
Would really like to put a modern mATX mobo in an Opti 9020 case - of course with new PSU, SSD, maybe mod the rear fan area to make room for a 120mm fan or AIO.!
Mid tower optiplex motherboard atx sized?
Why can't I find a used Mini Tower Optiplex 3010 case to swap out with my Desktop Optiplex 3010 case?
Thanks for your content on this . will this work on a 3050 dell I have a case i want to put my dell in
Thanks! Glad I can be helpful, but I'm sorry... these don't work with the xx40 series and up and the company that makes them doesn't seem to be interested in making adapters for the newer models unfortunately.
i use these adapters for alot case swaps i did
At first I wasn’t interested, but since I have 3020 boards laying around I might do a NAS build or see if this translates to a Dimension 2400 case.
Well... looking at the 2400 board, it looks like it's a standard mATX layout as well.
Well You convinced me to buy them I really hope you do a case swap video with them before mine arrive.
Opti 7010 I7 2700k gtx 970 SSC
Sadly, it probably won't be before then. Got a lot of stuff lined up before then that I've been working on.
I have SFF T1700, you said it as well, im getting this to swap it to a bigger case
I hope you haven't as they don't work on the SFF systems. There's stuff in the way of the front panel connector so the board can slot in. The power button adapter would work though.
@@TheGameBench didn't but damn
@@TheGameBench Also the reason why I wanted to do this is because this gave me hope www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/mae5bz/my_600_gaming_pc_made_from_dell_t1700_sff/?context=3
@@sorayasis Yeah, you can see in those pics that they have a Dell front panel hanging out in the case to avoid the F1 errors. Still you can find mini-tower systems for not a lot. Your other option is to splice into the front panel cable, and tie it into the front panel of your new case. Would look much better, and no errors. If Harbin wanted to make something that worked with the SFF systems, and I think they should, they would have to make an adapter that used a cable with the adapter at the end.
Great they just need to make one for the fans
Please make video on doing case swap.
Dude ur awesome
Wil any of these work with the 3060 does it have the same motherboard as any of the recommended one
No, the 3060 is very different from those models. The power button connection might be the same, but the front panel connection is very different, so this wont' work with the 3060.
I'm trying to upgrade my dell optiplex 9020 sff but that is a bugger these adapters doesn't work with small form factor. Any adapter suggestions for small form factor?
There aren't any sadly. The power button adapter still works, but you do have another option that doesn't require any adapters. Tech Yes City has a great video on this and it's pretty simple to do.
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You don't know how much I wished I had these back in the day before covid when I used to build pcs or bring new life to old hardware with new cases for customers in tight budget but the problem with this kit is the price 25 dollars is a 120gb ssd for something that cost 1 maybe 2 dollars in material to make thats gonna be its downfall the market its going for is from people who already know how to build pcs someone that doesn't will not buy this cause bringing new life to optiplexes in New cases is to hard for normal people if these kits where 5 10 dollars id buy them but getting rid of 25 dollars in a budget system which is what mayority of people will not do in a budget system its a hard sell ESPECIALLY WHEN SOME MOTHERBOARDS ALONE COST LESS THAN 25 DOLLARS thats the shocking part about this but great video non the less
Is this compatible if you’re building your optiplex setup in an argb case, I have a 9010 MT, I am trying to build my system in a cooler master mb311l argb case and I wanna know if it’s fully compatible including the kit that was mentioned in the video, amazing content btw
The case shouldn't matter as everything you'll be connecting to these will be standard connections. And yes, it's compatible with the 9010 motherboard.
@@TheGameBench thats a relief, thank you
Fun fact: If you happen to own a Bluetooth keyboard. The computer will not recognize any keyboard on boot (because no driver is loaded at the time) which will also throw an error saying no keyboard found. But then it will let you boot into windows without pressing F1 because... well you obviously cannot press F1 to continue. On the login screen, all drivers are loaded correctly, by then the computer will function normally.
nice one!!! from the philippines
Does this work at all with the SFF version of the 9020?
The power switch adapter will work, but the front panel adapter won't. It interferes with the rear I/O.
Only doubt I have on these adapters is that some of them have the pins outside the main motherboard so need extra space on top and bottom will they fit on a micro atx case?
I suppose that's possible depending on the case and it's clearances, but there's no universal answer. I just measured the overhang it's 5mm.
@@TheGameBenchthanks, 5 mm is more than enough or else as typical micro atx cases you can do a little hole in the bottom as usually these cases, have a plate to divide between the psu and the motherboard you can arrange it, for me a optiplex is beautiful with a modern small case as mt and dt are originally from factory, not normal atx size
I don't know this thing is exist, until now. I've got 9020 myself and thinking of case swap.
Yo thanks ima ask this and a case for my b-day!
Glad I could help!
thats cool sad thing is my 960 optiplex is just sitting around with a huge plastic cover on the cooler and no other cooler fits haha
I assume it's a SFF system? That plastic is totally removable and there are some aftermarket coolers that will work. The real trick is finding one that won't throw the F1 fan error.
Thanks for the reminder, but I already knew about these adapters.
Is there one for the sff boards. I really love my optiplex just want a case with more air flow
The power button adapter works for the SFF models, but there is an interference issue with the front panel adapter. If you don't mind loosing the front panel audio and USB2, there are ways to make it work without the F1 error.
@@TheGameBench I'm looking for something as well for my SFF and removed the front IO for more air flow and have a 19 pin and a 9 pin from that open and I cant find adapters to put there to make those ports usable for things like internal USB.
Ebay doesn't ship to my location, Egypt... Is there another way i can get these?
There's a link to Harbin's website and I know they ship outside the U.S. That's really the only other way to get them.
my issue is that i can just get a standard-ish Micro ATX board for like $30 shipped - so paying $20 for adapters is only going to make sense if i'm paying like nothing for the PC. don't get me wrong, i agree Harbin needs to make some money and this is a worthwhile product that the market desperately needs.
You're not wrong. Picking up a B85 board isn't going to cost much more and would have similar performance compared to the the boards in the xx20 series. They're certainly more of a niche product for the OptiPlex super enthusiast.
can you use this in reverse if you put a ryzen system into an OptiPlex case?
Nope, these only work in the OptiPlex motherboard. To put modern hardware in an OptiPlex case, and make everything work... like building a sleeper, you'd have to get creative and modify things to make it work.
@@TheGameBench mine is working I just wanted to keep the power button light
Hi, I have a question. How dificult is to swap a motherboard from a SFF 3070 to an atx case?
Looking at the 7050 MT I have here, which should have the same screw pattern, it's not standard ATX. Only one screw lined up. Looks to be a custom screw pattern.
@@TheGameBench Thanks, my concern is more for wires and conectors. I found a very good deal for a dell 3070 with a i5 9500 but that SFF case has no room for a GPU. You think that present more problems than the screws?
This is the pc, look where is the pci express slot ua-cam.com/video/9RgmD3VRua4/v-deo.html
Thanks again for the answer!
is there anything out there for a 7020 sff
Nope. Nothing that I know of. The problem with the SFF board is that there's interference between the rear I/O and connection point for the front panel. It would have to be some sort of cable rather than the board that plugs right into the connection on the motherboard. I believe the power switch adapter fits just fine.
So why do these adaptors not work with the SFF mobo's?
Simple... it's a clearance issue.
These adapters are great for ease of use, however I'm wondering about the economics of this route. Once you've bought these adapters, plus the 8-24 pin power adapter, would it not be nearly the same price just to buy a second hand standard motherboard?
Nearly? Perhaps... but it really depends on the board. The cost on something like a decent Haswell motherboard can be near $100, even for something that isn't a Z series chipset. For around $50, you might find something okay for that price, or it might not be as good as the board you're pulling out of the OptiPlex. However, there is a way to do the case swap without the adapters if you don't care about the front panel audio or the USB2 ports. Brian at Tech Yes City showed a way to bypass all those F1 errors without the adapter.
@@TheGameBench fair enough. And I get that there is satisfaction in repurposing oem parts. What do you think about the newer Optiplexes with 6/7 gen processors?- They seem to be becoming affordable now.
Is there anything newer than the optiplex 9020 now a days to do the same thing?
You mean for case swaps? You might be able to swap a xx40 or xx50 series into another case, but no such adapters exist for those boards. They boards are more non-standard compared to the xx20 series.
I mean for building a gaming pc. I figured its been over a year since your first videos, maybe there newer and better dells or other brands for cheap now that we can add graphics cards to.
@@victorsanchez4497 Dell... sadly, not so much. The OptiPlex kinda' took a bad turn after the 20 series. You can, but you either have to stick to GPU's that don't need supplemental power, or modify it with a SFX power supply. Even then, they're cramped and GPU sizing and airflow become and issue. Instead I would suggest looking at the HP Z series. They come with decent sized PSU's for the time, and you can replace them with an adapter, like the xx20. Plenty of room for GPU's and not too hard to add more airflow.
I'll agree the the 4th gen is nearing the end of it's useful life for the most part, and while you can move to a 6th gen system... they're going to have similar issue to the 4th gen as will the 7th, being quad cores. They're all limited in cores and the IPC gain isn't huge either. They'll all get beat by a current Ryzen 3 or Intel i3. You just need to find them at the right price to make sense over just building something with a low end CPU that you can easily upgrade when you have more cash.
Nice vid broh
Dell optiplex 990 MT.. front panel adapter kit.... Available in india bro...pls help
You'll have to check the Harbin Repairs eBay page or their store page so see if the ship to India, but I know they ship internationally. The links should be in the description.
Yes brother thanks for upload the video..I'm here in qatar in watching I have Dell optiplex 790 the problem is here in qatar we don't have front panel adaptor can you help me brother how to sent here in qatar thank you..
If you can't get them to ship to Qatar via eBay, perhaps try their website. I know they ship internationally.
store.harbinrepairs.com/index.php/product/dfp34-tk/
Dell optiplex 9020 SFF motherboard is the same as the tower motherboard. How would it not work with SFF???
Yes, the connectors are the same. And as far as I know, the power switch adapter will work just fine. However, the front header adapter has some clearance issues with things on the motherboard, so it doesn't fit.
@@TheGameBench ah, right'o. thanks for the extra info dude i appreciate your answer to my question 😁
It works on dell optiplex sff motherboard?
No, they are not compatible with the SFF boards.
Now we just need one for the CPU Cooler
There is already an adapter for cpu fan out there. Try searching for dell 5 pins to 4 pin pwm.
@@cloud8426971305 Thanks I just recently tracked one down on eBay so mine is all sorted now. Thanks again
Alot of jargon flying over my head here which is my own fault lol.
So, instead of modding the original case to fit rx 470, i can find cheapo ATX case and bypass proprietary pitfalls during transplant?
Yep, you've got it.
Does this also bypass the fan error?
Unfortunately, no. That's a separate issue. The fan controller on these are very picky. You can easily adapt from the SL fan headers on the Dell motherboard to a standard 4-pin fan, but you still might get the error as there's some compatibility issue and I've not been able to find a pattern.
Oh boy...another adapter...I’m still glad I’m swapping one fir the learning experience, but I probably won’t do it again, oh well, it’s fun.