I know this has to be a joke but dear god no...he is still pretty weak honestly might be the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd weakest killer in the game. He's a nightmare to play as
I love the Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde thing he has and the fluorescent orange blight juice. overall his character design is (imo) the best in the game hands down.
I honestly think Blight is a really fun player to not only play as, but against. He can easily get downs in as quick as two seconds, but at least during that time you feel like you're actually being chased. Plus, I don't think may people realize just how much mind-gaming and counter-play there is with his power, like blocking him from making a bump when he initiates rush, or crouching just out of his rush LOS to almost disappear in front of him.
Killers like Blight, Wesker, Huntress and Billy are who you want being meta. Throw Oni and plague in there too. Low skill floor but infinite skill ceiling, with clear counter play.
Nurse is the strongest killer and always will be. She completely ignores the idea of looping by simply blinking through pallets and walls. Pallets are at least playable when going against blight.
@@SeekAndDestroyTM True but sm ppl act like she just ignores everything when she rlly doesnt and she isnt very hard to run if you just make the right choices and not play like a jimmy
@@SeekAndDestroyTM In 1v1s p much any nurse can b run in tourneys/scrims/wtv its obv a lil different cuz ur playing to win not playing for juicy chases but I have run my friends' nurses - Corrps who is like 4k hours and kezmightcry who is like 6k also a lotta random ppl in the dbd scrims server u prob dont know them but they both do comp or atleast used too, this isnt some humble brag btw im js sayin any nurse can be run because her whole kit and chase is just 50-50s and if you path and make the right decisions you can consistently win more 50-50s than u lose. I agree Good nurses are rare in pubs atleast because they don't have much experience playing against actual good survivors. And against those nurses 50-50s arent really forced because they dont know how to force them xD so its much easier to run them especially cuz sm killers dont know how to zone properly
That first Blight game was one of the craziest I've ever seen. I know this is for analysis/killer experimentation but I'd watch you commentate over games like this daily, the insights really added to everything.
I feel like BHVR's inability to balance their game properly was indicated quite early on when they released a killer so disproportionately powerful compared to their original three as their *first ever DLC killer*
@@nightart9345 My point isn't regarding the price, it's that they genuinely thought releasing a noclip killer that early was a good idea, or at all really
@@gort5516 That's the lamest possible excuse I could imagine for piss poor balancing, by that logic, why even bother creating a game like this in the first place if you're not even going to try and cater to both sides fairly?
@@CloudBlitzer That's the issue when people bring up comp players in general. The "best XYZ in comp DbD," doesn't mean anything because of the severe restrictions to comp play. Not to mention the heavy dependence on comms, which we should all know breaks the game at this point. Imo a pub stomper is always better than a comp player for these reasons. They should've gotten like LilithOmen vs Super Alf for this
@@derpyduck5088 you clearly don't know what you're talking about. While pub stompers might be good in chase, they lack the immense gamesense and knowledge a comp player has
@@CloudBlitzer it’s not really. We are comparing killers here. Not killers vs pub balancing. If you allow everything on surv, the killers don’t get to play and thus there’s no real showcase. At this level survs abuse everything. There’s too much op shit for surv in pubs for this to be meaningful.
@@derpyduck5088 absolutely right. a pub player knows dbd thousand times better and comp players live in a small restricted economy. you don't know how much knowledge passionated dbd legends have compared to the sometimes 'new' comp players (knightlight excluded e.g.). other than that the comp scene has compared to dbd legends in general no audience and respect bc they didn't figure out until today that dbd is not a conpetetivr game (and this comes from a dbd lover that used to be a professional comp player in CS 1.6 and Quake 3 at the very beginning of the E-sport rise that won the WWCL (LAN) twice and attended the ESL Pro Series 3x and the CPL 2003 in Q3). Give the comp idea up bc the absurd amount of perks and synergies allow now balance as well as like the fact that this game is designed in one way (chase,hide and seek) and on the other hand they ignore the whole gameplay by bringing a killer to who all rules and ideas don't apply (nurse - no clip, no stun..)😂
I love these types of videos! Long with great commentary, great players, all around awesome, so I’d love to see more:-) have you thought about sharing some of their comms in a video? I think it might add another layer to the video and help us get more familiar with these guys on your channel, ofc only if they want to, I can def understand why they wouldn’t.
Hey hens, i love your videos. I noticed that you apologized for changing camera too much, but personally i really enjoyed the fast paced switching and your commentary. Keep up the good work!
I always love the perk combos in comp for survivors. They come up with interesting niche combos that you don't get in solo queue because its always some combination of dh/sb/lithe, adren, windows, coh, prove. otr. But when its down to only one of each you have to come up with new ideas. I've learned so much about the value of deliverance in a team and why kinship is god-tier in a similar setting. In the same way, restrictions to killer addons and perks means you see stuff like brutal and shiny pin on huntress get actual value. Maybe if they make a sort of dbd 2, we can get an actual ranked mode with a draft pick system and seasonal rotation of bans/maps. The game would need some fundamental changes in order to make solo queue in a setting like that viable. The potential is there yo. (Also great video hens, I always look forward to your uploads).
Nurse will always be the best Killer because she quite *literally* breaks the rules of the Trials. She excels in anti-loop but also has plenty of utility within her kit. Killers like Blight, Mastermind, and Spirit are very powerful, and in a lot of cases, too strong but they still follow the rules of the Trials. Pallets, Tiles, etc, are all still "weaknesses" with their playstyles. Nurse, though? She can just phase through all of it with no problem. Pallets realistically don't even do anything against her. One small idea I've been brainstorming since I could grasp the balance of the game, was only allowing Nurse to blink over "low tiles" or "small objects" that look as if you could vault over them. For example, she could blink through a Window or Dropped Pallet (similar to how some Killers can throw or shoot things over), or even over some loops, but tall walls would prevent her blink from phasing through. I feel as if this completely changes her playstyle and would obviously need more thinking involved because if we were to just change it on a PTB, it would go very poorly for her. She would be too slow, maybe too clunky. It would need tinkering, but I believe the idea has potential. But who knows, there could be something better out there.
Hi first off I do not claim to be a good killer But I say I used to be decent I fully agree with you when you say nurse is the strongest, I did a no perk run for killer and nurse carried me for most of it i managed to reach gold 3, Keep in mind this was during the time before they nerfed dead hard the first time and all the other perks so survivors were stronger at that time Only reason why I couldn't complete it was because I had 2 jobs at the time but if I didn't I probably would have made it to red rank just from nurse having no perks This is NOT a promotion I swear if you need proof go to my twitch go to highlights on twitch , I recorded the whole duration of my streams and put it into the highlights So there is no Trimming Once again I am not promoting I just don't want anyone to think I'm lying When I say nurses that ridiculous to this day it's been 7 years and some how she remains the best I'm also on console so theoretically it should be harder
Bro i love these high level videos! I appreciate the commentary to help me; someone who isn't able to understand all the little gimmicks and minigames they do.
@@nok9926just because she is hard to learn and master, doesn't excuse the fact she way too OP. The only way to balance her is to make it so that she can't blink through solid long structures. And to compensate, she has to move at around 4.2m/s
@@nok9926 id agree. nurse is good at going up and down floors, making her more mobile in midwife, and she can also reach a gen which is within her blink range in an instant. but blight certainly is more quick in reaching further gens.
Man, I was expecting Lilith Omen would play the Blight and SupaAlf as the Nurse after reading the video's title, sadly it didn't come true. But to see someone not these two guys playing extremely well makes me feel pleased. Great video!
@@Agaroth3010 somehow Lilith can use Blight's power during a chase precisely while reading and replying to fans' donations on another screen. What a legend.
@@trettery I'm not his biggest fan but you have to admit that it's really hard to find someone that can play Blight that well. A 180+ win streak Blight at rank 1 isn't just the number.
yeah instead of having to randomly guess where the nurse is gonna blink i'l just have to randomly guess whether the blight will collide with the obstacle or not or whether he's gonna pull some wierd janky tech or not
I know a lot of people don't like comp dbd, but I honestly love watching matches between comp players and seeing the skill on both sides. Thank you for this video, Hens!
In terms of mechanical interest and fun, blight is def better to play as, but because nurse just ignores chase mechanics beyond holding W I believe nurse wins in terms of pure strength. If we take a no-mistake run for both killers, I believe nurse would always win 100% purely because even with no mistakes Blight can still be delayed with pallets, walls, exhaustion perks, etc. Nurse won't.
The real question is: Why is blight 115%? He should be 110% for the same reason, Spirit and Hag are. He's power is not just some helpful anti-loop tool (like Doctor's shock or Demo's shred), which makes chasing easier. It is his primary (and only) power and is mobility inside (and outside) the chase. With the 115% pallets (or objects) where getting a hit with his rushes is difficult become counterplay. Right now, Blight van just get the normal hit easily and then doesn't lose any distance whatsoever. On top, his animations work differently, giving him another unnecessary edge over the original killers, regarding flashlight blinds (at window vault, pallet breaking, pickup).
I wonder the same Regardless of the insane combination of add ons there are some scenarios where it’s a lose - lose for the survivor, even pre dropping a pallet won’t stop a blight to confirm the hit / down
I agree. Blight is already #1 when it comes to mobility, why is he also 115%? I’ve gotten really good at looping blights, but he becomes problematic when he has any combination of speed/alchring/compound33/adrenvile on top of 9/10 getting a hit within the first 10 seconds of a match with lethal. It’s just annoying how you can outplay him by either flaring him, Pluto tech, or just simple breaking LOS and wasting all his charges, just so that you run him in one loop while he’s 115% forcing a quick pallet. You make no distance really because even if you stun him, if there’s no filler pallet or good environment RNG that you can use, he just dashes at full blast and can easily secure another hit (this isn’t always the case). To balance him all they really need to do is heavily nerf his addons and make him 110% or at least make it so that if you stun him he loses all his charges. Also, yeah I agree with his different animation that gives him another unnecessary advantage. Not being able to blind him at windows (especially shack window) just removes a bit more counterplay. How can we blind trapper of all killers at windows (arguably one of the weakest killers) but and S tier killer gets a free pass.. Aside from these nerf suggestions, he’s one of the funnest killers to go against, especially when you run into a good blight that immediately nods the second y’all make it to a hug techable loop and y’all have a stand-off as he replenishes his charges, menacingly waiting to win the 50/50 😈
Hot take: I think Bhvr should just bring all 110% killers to 115%. Because all maps and tiles are based around 115% movement speed. And along with that change strong killers like spirit basically should get a speed reduction to 110% on their strong addons. This way I would buff basekit for certain killers and encourage to use other addons or take the disadvantage. It would be a huge benefit for basekit huntress, spirit, trickster and slinger but not make them broken
@@xeno5814 Yeah Blight is just ridiculous because he has no weaknesses. If you screw up your blight rush, there should be a cost to that. Maybe if they put him at 100% speed while his vials were recharging or something, so there's a penalty for missing. At least with Nurse her regular movement is slow.
@@xeno5814 I fully agree. Winning against blight in his rush is always fun and exciting. Although I relax hate it, when you then try to benefit and move to the next tile. But then get hit due to adrenaline vile.
From what i can gather, Blight is better in general until u get to the very high levels, where he gets hurt by survivors body blocking his power effectively (something not often seen at "lower" higher levels). But at the tippity top, nurse is nurse, and she comes out #1.
@@JondarKorric Actually that's not true. If a blight is in a rush, he can look up/down but as soon as you attack, the game automatically directs the attack back to the centre. Only if the blight is not using his power can you direct the attacks downwards.
I feel like one more game would decide exactly who is better simply by letting the survivors use any perk, and item etc and letting the killer use whatever they want also, this way we could actually determine strength where in an actual game how strong are they when there’s no setbacks, like here the survivors had to use specific perks but how well do the killers perform when the survivor has anything at their disposal
Nurse. I don't even know why there is a debate, Blight can't ignore pallets or windows and has an actual cooldown and counterplay, plus Nurse has a much, much lower skill ceiling and a higher skill floor.
Nurse is better in chase, but Blight just has zero weaknesses. If Nurse gets a bad map with a lot of LoS blocking, she's just not that good. Plus most Nurse rely a lot on aura reading, so if you take away her aura reading with a perk like Distortion, she'll have a lot harder of a time dealing with you, since Nurse is terrible if she has to go looking around for people. Big maps also make things harder for her since she's really slow by default and if she wants to use teleports just to move around the map, she has nothing left to hunt survivors. Thing with Blight is that he has amazing map presence, and beyond that he's a fast basic killer. Even if you use his blight rush for nothing more than whipping from gen to gen, he's really good. After the nurse add-on nerfs I think Blight is the better killer. Nurse is still top tier, but Blight is king, because he has no weaknesses.
@@taragnor No weakness? Try pallets and walls... I 100% agree that blight can be more versatile with his mobility and his busted set of addons but in chase there IS counter play. You see pro players do it all the time. Things such as blocking the shack doorway to prevent a bounce or playing around small tight loops. They're niche, for sure, but there is a lot less you can do against a nurse in chase than a blight...
@@citronvi0let847 Walls and pallets aren't a weakness to Blight, it's just a common killer mechanic. Basic M1 killers like Sadako and Myers are weak to pallets and walls, blight... not so much. And with compound 33 Blight tears apart pallets real fast. When I say no weaknesses, I mean Blight is a killer that is good in chase, has good information, and has good map pressure. Yes, Nurse is better in chase, but she's weaker in the other categories. Nurse has one gimmick, teleport, and that's it. If you're able to block LoS and trick her with the teleport, you can beat her. Without teleport she's not even a basic killer, she's slower than a survivor. Furthermore, Nurse is pretty weak to stealth. If she doesn't know where you are, it's tough for her to go searching. Blight really has no such problems. Even if you can dodge his Blighted rush, he's still a fast basic killer. Even if the guy sucks with Blighted rush and uses it just for map traversal and getting relatively close to survivors, he still gets an insane amount of map presence and he's still about as good in chase as a killer like Wraith. Because at any time you can bounce around the map with a rocket engine with barely any start-up time, unlike a character like Billy who has to fully rev his chainsaw to get the speed, or Wraith who has to spend time cloaking.
@@taragnor Ahhh I get what you're saying now, I agree, Mb... I was thrown off by "Blight has no weaknesses" I thought you were talking about him having absolutely 0 counterplay rather than him just being strong in every situation. You are very correct in this regard.
Even though most comp games are boring in terms of how the killer wins (hardcore tunneling) it’s still such a pleasure to see the best killers play at such a high level of skill. Ggs!
You said there were no restrictions/rules for either side in the unrestricted games (e.g. 38:26), but it looked like the survivors were still using no repeating perks/yellow items? Were there still rules for their builds?
@@haiz768 That’s quite literally the definition of “skill issue”. The game is massively survivor-sided, even more so in SWF situations. If you cannot win even in a SWF, you’re literally just bad. Just get better. If you can’t, go back to Roblox.
@@TheSorcerer1 Yeah rigt, the game is so overwelmingly survivor sided that onne of the best team in the world just lost all of their games in the video you just watched. Stay blindfolded forever dbd community.
The nature of Nurse her power is just stronger in every instance of chase basically, but Blight is cooler, easier to traverse the map with and also faster, better addons, better cosmetics, more fun, cooler backstory and a ton of techs that you can learn and master, Blight imo has the highest skill ceiling in the game which alone is just reason enough to get to the challenge and learn to play him
I think overall in public games nurse is stronger, because people dont understand how to play against the nurse, but, however, in comp scene blight is much stronger because nurse doesnt have "deadzones" like blight, so imo blight is stronger (definetily not because im p100 blight) :) good video overall, watched that live and liked the commentary in the video here, big respects!
Hey bro, I'm not Hens but Dead by Daylight League (DBDLeague on Twitch and UA-cam) is the biggest tournament there is. From there I think you could find a lot more like ChampionsOfTheFog
Also, can anyone explain why the nurse was running agitation with the rest of the build? To get carry survivors closer to gens and waste less time with hooking?
Virtual using compound instead of double speed is insane. Remember up to green does not apply to adrenaline vial which is always bannaed in comp, it would be a very different match if that wasn't the case.
As a blight main i didnt know you could kick gens while in fatigue, mostly because I've never kicked a gen as blight except when i was still learning him
i think overall nurse is strong in just regular power, blights add one are what make him so great, as a survivor i’d rather go against a blight than a nurse any day, more fun for both sides imo
I've always enjoyed Blight (minus alch ring) as a survivor but it's getting to the point where I'm starting to hate Spirit more than Nurse, it's just not fun going against a strong spirit
Obviously, in a game with this many variables, we’re gonna need a bigger sample size to determine a clear winner, but cool to see the king and queen of dbd face of like this anyway
since I've come back to dbd I've noticed the very good comp players for whatever reason always use ace just like hens I'm not sure why that's is, is there a reason?
Tbh the compound 33 is from the setting not bad. I mean they actually could remove the slow down and add a more longer stun duration. For the ring, eeeeh they should make it iri tbh
Damn though, your commentary made it even more exciting. Is there a video you can recommend that can explain that crouch tech against Blight? I have seen people do it but never saw a clear explanation of how it works. I’m just trying to learn from Professor Hens lol.
what i really want to see is a direct comparison if every Survivor brings the strongest stuff they can and face against the strongest Killer who also brings the strongest things they can. And then the same thing but they arent allowed to discuss who brings wich Perks and Items and arent allowed to communicate at all. They are also not allowed to bring exactly the same Build they use for Tournaments. Basically, everyone just brings what they themselves deem: The strongest Build. No bringing The Perks that fit best with their Position in the Team or what they think their Role is in the Team. Its basically a comparison between SWF and SoloQ but with not only highly skilled Survivors, but also the strongest possible Perks and Items added because No SoloQ Team runs without Perks so it wouldnt be a fair comparison.
@@hens333 nice, your Videos are awesome and I love watching them. Can't wait to see what you have in Store for Us. Außerdem finde ich es so cool das ein Deutscher so viel Erfolg hat im englischen UA-cam Bereich. Ist nicht leicht nen ganzen Stream lang eine andere Sprache zu sprechen :D
3rd game by the Nurse was definitely their worst, mistakes were made and they didn’t even use bookmark. Probably felt cocky after the first 2 games and decided to meme with return blink
Why did the nurse not use torn bookmark with campbells, boggles my mind. With those two you basically become mobile like blight and you can guarantee a down everytime without fail on mid to short distance chases with her triple blink. The recharges is not that bad anymore ever since they buffed torn bookmark recharge time by 20%. Then with campbells you have 40 meters of free distance you can cover to either defend gens or catch up to a survivor who pre-ran. Then when you are close enough you wait for 2 blinks if they are in an open area and get the hit normally or wait for your 3 blinks and guarantee the hit no matter where they are.
They could have used 5 blink nurse or campbells for 40 meter blinks. Idk if this was before those changes, if so then idk what was good then. Im not to used to the comp side of dbd, but is ultra slugging out of the game? Wouodnt it be more viable in this sutation?
After the nerf Blight is definitely stronger at top level. They have similar chase abilities with a slight edge to Nurse (it really is slight-- really good Blights are extremely deadly in chase, the difference between him and Nurse is not actually that large in this capacity). However, Blight has wayyy better map traversal and can synergize with top perks better.
Yeah if it's a flat map (like most DBD maps), then Blight is better with the map traversal. The thing with Blight is that he has zero weaknesses. He's good at everything. Nurse has one really powerful gimmick but other than that is pretty weak.
@@taragnor even on multi level maps like RPD and The Game, Blight is still better than Nurse. anyone who has played Blight more than a couple times can easily follow you around corners and Blight really only has 3 bad add ons, all of which are browns
My opinion, both share number 1 but blight is better, nurse is a well oiled killing machine, but blight is pure style and showmanship. That's why I think he's better
we all know trapper is the only killer that has no weakness and uncounterable whatsoever
I know this has to be a joke but dear god no...he is still pretty weak honestly might be the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd weakest killer in the game. He's a nightmare to play as
@@haiz768 I think I've been in a few of your games before 😭 does the name 'DuckTower' ring a bell
@@haiz768 get good lol. You clearly don't play survivor well if you haven't won a SINGLE game sense that update man. Also who asked?
@@sepronlayden5189 man, its kinda true but that was toxic af xd
@@haiz768 BRO WHY ARE YOU JUST LITERALLY EVERYWHERE
Ignoring which killer is stronger in what situation, i just find Blight to be the cooler killer, both to play as and lore wise
You just feel cool when you play Blight, especially with his Birkin cosmetic
I love the Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde thing he has and the fluorescent orange blight juice. overall his character design is (imo) the best in the game hands down.
I would always take a Blight for a nurse any day as survivor, I actually like to play against Blight, against nurse I just feel almost no enjoyment
@@haiz768 Then don't play it!
@@haiz768 no way your serious rn I’m still shitting on nurses just get in a swf
That healing miss in the first game actually made me mad
Same he had the 4k and go fucked, game should have counted as a 4k and ended there
@@haiz768 You mean 6.1.0?
Yea he should have won that
@@haiz768 ive played against you before!
@@haiz768 mf they gave you free meta perks please
Nurse is way stronger in chase, blight has better map mobility. Blight has better addons.
Fr i want nurse to have at least one godly addon like blight ;-;
@@Random-1983 I can’t believe what I just read
@@TooTrue22-24 me too, dude....me too
@@Random-1983 3 Blinks maybe? :O
@@oliverhardy9464 3 blinks only used for the achievement. Also- it isnt as good as the addon that lets you recharge by hitting someone w/ blight
Bubba is the best killer
I'm glad someone said it 🙏
AMEN
Nurse and Blight wish they could Insidious camp basement like Bubba can.
Stronk
True BOOBA BEST KILLA
I honestly think Blight is a really fun player to not only play as, but against. He can easily get downs in as quick as two seconds, but at least during that time you feel like you're actually being chased. Plus, I don't think may people realize just how much mind-gaming and counter-play there is with his power, like blocking him from making a bump when he initiates rush, or crouching just out of his rush LOS to almost disappear in front of him.
All this talk reminds me about how fun Billy would be if he was a lot better :(
I personally hate playing against blight.
Killers like Blight, Wesker, Huntress and Billy are who you want being meta. Throw Oni and plague in there too. Low skill floor but infinite skill ceiling, with clear counter play.
@@MissChambers Its almost like there fun or something i guess
@@ratinc.t3748 rejoice mf. I hope you're happy with the new billy 😂
Nurse is the strongest killer and always will be. She completely ignores the idea of looping by simply blinking through pallets and walls. Pallets are at least playable when going against blight.
pallets r 100% playable against nurse lol. i have literally hundreds of clips i can send u
@@trettery pallets are more 50/50 vs nurse, so not non-playable, but not exactly as playable as vs Blight
@@SeekAndDestroyTM True but sm ppl act like she just ignores everything when she rlly doesnt and she isnt very hard to run if you just make the right choices and not play like a jimmy
@@trettery a good nurse is hard to run. Good nurses are rare-ish
@@SeekAndDestroyTM In 1v1s p much any nurse can b run in tourneys/scrims/wtv its obv a lil different cuz ur playing to win not playing for juicy chases but I have run my friends' nurses - Corrps who is like 4k hours and kezmightcry who is like 6k also a lotta random ppl in the dbd scrims server u prob dont know them but they both do comp or atleast used too, this isnt some humble brag btw im js sayin any nurse can be run because her whole kit and chase is just 50-50s and if you path and make the right decisions you can consistently win more 50-50s than u lose. I agree Good nurses are rare in pubs atleast because they don't have much experience playing against actual good survivors. And against those nurses 50-50s arent really forced because they dont know how to force them xD so its much easier to run them especially cuz sm killers dont know how to zone properly
That first Blight game was one of the craziest I've ever seen. I know this is for analysis/killer experimentation but I'd watch you commentate over games like this daily, the insights really added to everything.
Hens should be casting every tournament tbh
Sadako is definitely the strongest Killer, I thought it was obvious 🙄
Ik right? What’s wrong with these people
@@haiz768 skill issue tbh
@@haiz768 Get better at looping
No, clown is stronger
@@haiz768 don't comment this on every comment
I feel like BHVR's inability to balance their game properly was indicated quite early on when they released a killer so disproportionately powerful compared to their original three as their *first ever DLC killer*
*Free* DLC, don't forget that
@@nightart9345 My point isn't regarding the price, it's that they genuinely thought releasing a noclip killer that early was a good idea, or at all really
@@loomingmoon4682 Fair
or maybe this game was never supposed to be perfectly balanced in the first place because it is a 4v1 horror game not some dedicated eSports title.
@@gort5516 That's the lamest possible excuse I could imagine for piss poor balancing, by that logic, why even bother creating a game like this in the first place if you're not even going to try and cater to both sides fairly?
What I learned from this video:
1. Compound 33 is busted
2. The best way to play against nurse is to either stealth or run edge map and die
yes that is correct 😂
9:33 I love behavior
Imagine if the survivors all of them have meta perks like normal game
Yeah, it's really hard to figure out which killer is stronger when playing with super predictable tournament rules
@@CloudBlitzer That's the issue when people bring up comp players in general. The "best XYZ in comp DbD," doesn't mean anything because of the severe restrictions to comp play. Not to mention the heavy dependence on comms, which we should all know breaks the game at this point. Imo a pub stomper is always better than a comp player for these reasons. They should've gotten like LilithOmen vs Super Alf for this
@@derpyduck5088 you clearly don't know what you're talking about. While pub stompers might be good in chase, they lack the immense gamesense and knowledge a comp player has
@@CloudBlitzer it’s not really. We are comparing killers here. Not killers vs pub balancing.
If you allow everything on surv, the killers don’t get to play and thus there’s no real showcase.
At this level survs abuse everything. There’s too much op shit for surv in pubs for this to be meaningful.
@@derpyduck5088 absolutely right. a pub player knows dbd thousand times better and comp players live in a small restricted economy. you don't know how much knowledge passionated dbd legends have compared to the sometimes 'new' comp players (knightlight excluded e.g.). other than that the comp scene has compared to dbd legends in general no audience and respect bc they didn't figure out until today that dbd is not a conpetetivr game (and this comes from a dbd lover that used to be a professional comp player in CS 1.6 and Quake 3 at the very beginning of the E-sport rise that won the WWCL (LAN) twice and attended the ESL Pro Series 3x and the CPL 2003 in Q3).
Give the comp idea up bc the absurd amount of perks and synergies allow now balance as well as like the fact that this game is designed in one way (chase,hide and seek) and on the other hand they ignore the whole gameplay by bringing a killer to who all rules and ideas don't apply (nurse - no clip, no stun..)😂
I love these types of videos! Long with great commentary, great players, all around awesome, so I’d love to see more:-) have you thought about sharing some of their comms in a video? I think it might add another layer to the video and help us get more familiar with these guys on your channel, ofc only if they want to, I can def understand why they wouldn’t.
Hey hens, i love your videos. I noticed that you apologized for changing camera too much, but personally i really enjoyed the fast paced switching and your commentary. Keep up the good work!
“3% speed difference doesn’t sound like a lot but it is” aged perfectly
Bruh I wasn't paying attention, and thought he was talking about MFT until I realized it wasn't even released by the time this vid was out.
I always love the perk combos in comp for survivors. They come up with interesting niche combos that you don't get in solo queue because its always some combination of dh/sb/lithe, adren, windows, coh, prove. otr. But when its down to only one of each you have to come up with new ideas. I've learned so much about the value of deliverance in a team and why kinship is god-tier in a similar setting. In the same way, restrictions to killer addons and perks means you see stuff like brutal and shiny pin on huntress get actual value.
Maybe if they make a sort of dbd 2, we can get an actual ranked mode with a draft pick system and seasonal rotation of bans/maps. The game would need some fundamental changes in order to make solo queue in a setting like that viable. The potential is there yo. (Also great video hens, I always look forward to your uploads).
Nurse will always be the best Killer because she quite *literally* breaks the rules of the Trials. She excels in anti-loop but also has plenty of utility within her kit.
Killers like Blight, Mastermind, and Spirit are very powerful, and in a lot of cases, too strong but they still follow the rules of the Trials. Pallets, Tiles, etc, are all still "weaknesses" with their playstyles. Nurse, though? She can just phase through all of it with no problem. Pallets realistically don't even do anything against her.
One small idea I've been brainstorming since I could grasp the balance of the game, was only allowing Nurse to blink over "low tiles" or "small objects" that look as if you could vault over them. For example, she could blink through a Window or Dropped Pallet (similar to how some Killers can throw or shoot things over), or even over some loops, but tall walls would prevent her blink from phasing through. I feel as if this completely changes her playstyle and would obviously need more thinking involved because if we were to just change it on a PTB, it would go very poorly for her. She would be too slow, maybe too clunky. It would need tinkering, but I believe the idea has potential. But who knows, there could be something better out there.
Hi first off I do not claim to be a good killer But I say I used to be decent I fully agree with you when you say nurse is the strongest, I did a no perk run for killer and nurse carried me for most of it i managed to reach gold 3, Keep in mind this was during the time before they nerfed dead hard the first time and all the other perks so survivors were stronger at that time Only reason why I couldn't complete it was because I had 2 jobs at the time but if I didn't I probably would have made it to red rank just from nurse having no perks This is NOT a promotion I swear if you need proof go to my twitch go to highlights on twitch , I recorded the whole duration of my streams and put it into the highlights So there is no Trimming Once again I am not promoting I just don't want anyone to think I'm lying When I say nurses that ridiculous to this day it's been 7 years and some how she remains the best I'm also on console so theoretically it should be harder
Bro i love these high level videos! I appreciate the commentary to help me; someone who isn't able to understand all the little gimmicks and minigames they do.
There is no debate. Blight may speed around the chase mechanics, but Nurse flat out defies them.
yeah but nurse is slower and also takes a lot longer to use her power
@@nok9926just because she is hard to learn and master, doesn't excuse the fact she way too OP. The only way to balance her is to make it so that she can't blink through solid long structures. And to compensate, she has to move at around 4.2m/s
@@MiserableMuon my point is blight has more mobility than nurse
@@nok9926 id agree. nurse is good at going up and down floors, making her more mobile in midwife, and she can also reach a gen which is within her blink range in an instant.
but blight certainly is more quick in reaching further gens.
@@MiserableMuon nurse just isnt harder to learn, have you even tried blight?
Man, I was expecting Lilith Omen would play the Blight and SupaAlf as the Nurse after reading the video's title, sadly it didn't come true. But to see someone not these two guys playing extremely well makes me feel pleased. Great video!
Lilith is good but he doesn't use V1 tech or tunnels, so he is limiting himself
Just because other good players don't post videos, doesn't mean they don't exist.
@@Agaroth3010 somehow Lilith can use Blight's power during a chase precisely while reading and replying to fans' donations on another screen. What a legend.
@@AnhLe-gp7mo wow he can down a console player with 100 hours while readin chat in a pub game? Best blight global omg!!🤓🤓
@@trettery I'm not his biggest fan but you have to admit that it's really hard to find someone that can play Blight that well. A 180+ win streak Blight at rank 1 isn't just the number.
Blight is Wayy funner to go against than nurse
Does that mean he's better
@@evan1430 better for the health of the game
yeah instead of having to randomly guess where the nurse is gonna blink i'l just have to randomly guess whether the blight will collide with the obstacle or not or whether he's gonna pull some wierd janky tech or not
They both are 🤮🤮
@@patrick-tj4bj does that mean he’s “better” tho. The blight fanboys keep dodging this simple concept 😏
That Blight in the final game was just brutality and shows how insanely powerful Blight can be with the best add-ons even in a comp scenario
I know a lot of people don't like comp dbd, but I honestly love watching matches between comp players and seeing the skill on both sides. Thank you for this video, Hens!
In terms of mechanical interest and fun, blight is def better to play as, but because nurse just ignores chase mechanics beyond holding W I believe nurse wins in terms of pure strength. If we take a no-mistake run for both killers, I believe nurse would always win 100% purely because even with no mistakes Blight can still be delayed with pallets, walls, exhaustion perks, etc. Nurse won't.
Thanks for the amazing video! Hope we can see more of these in the future.
The real question is:
Why is blight 115%?
He should be 110% for the same reason, Spirit and Hag are.
He's power is not just some helpful anti-loop tool (like Doctor's shock or Demo's shred), which makes chasing easier. It is his primary (and only) power and is mobility inside (and outside) the chase.
With the 115% pallets (or objects) where getting a hit with his rushes is difficult become counterplay. Right now, Blight van just get the normal hit easily and then doesn't lose any distance whatsoever.
On top, his animations work differently, giving him another unnecessary edge over the original killers, regarding flashlight blinds (at window vault, pallet breaking, pickup).
I wonder the same
Regardless of the insane combination of add ons there are some scenarios where it’s a lose - lose for the survivor, even pre dropping a pallet won’t stop a blight to confirm the hit / down
I agree. Blight is already #1 when it comes to mobility, why is he also 115%? I’ve gotten really good at looping blights, but he becomes problematic when he has any combination of speed/alchring/compound33/adrenvile on top of 9/10 getting a hit within the first 10 seconds of a match with lethal. It’s just annoying how you can outplay him by either flaring him, Pluto tech, or just simple breaking LOS and wasting all his charges, just so that you run him in one loop while he’s 115% forcing a quick pallet. You make no distance really because even if you stun him, if there’s no filler pallet or good environment RNG that you can use, he just dashes at full blast and can easily secure another hit (this isn’t always the case).
To balance him all they really need to do is heavily nerf his addons and make him 110% or at least make it so that if you stun him he loses all his charges.
Also, yeah I agree with his different animation that gives him another unnecessary advantage. Not being able to blind him at windows (especially shack window) just removes a bit more counterplay. How can we blind trapper of all killers at windows (arguably one of the weakest killers) but and S tier killer gets a free pass..
Aside from these nerf suggestions, he’s one of the funnest killers to go against, especially when you run into a good blight that immediately nods the second y’all make it to a hug techable loop and y’all have a stand-off as he replenishes his charges, menacingly waiting to win the 50/50 😈
Hot take: I think Bhvr should just bring all 110% killers to 115%. Because all maps and tiles are based around 115% movement speed. And along with that change strong killers like spirit basically should get a speed reduction to 110% on their strong addons. This way I would buff basekit for certain killers and encourage to use other addons or take the disadvantage. It would be a huge benefit for basekit huntress, spirit, trickster and slinger but not make them broken
@@xeno5814 Yeah Blight is just ridiculous because he has no weaknesses. If you screw up your blight rush, there should be a cost to that. Maybe if they put him at 100% speed while his vials were recharging or something, so there's a penalty for missing. At least with Nurse her regular movement is slow.
@@xeno5814
I fully agree.
Winning against blight in his rush is always fun and exciting. Although I relax hate it, when you then try to benefit and move to the next tile. But then get hit due to adrenaline vile.
Perfect video to watch while I wait for the update. Thanks hens.
From what i can gather, Blight is better in general until u get to the very high levels, where he gets hurt by survivors body blocking his power effectively (something not often seen at "lower" higher levels). But at the tippity top, nurse is nurse, and she comes out #1.
No. Blight has better mobility, map pressure and versatility, Nurse is the best for chases, each one has its advantages.
And those kinds of tests are inconsistent, since the winner killer main can just be exponentially better, and have better tactics.
Also it's quite map dependent whether blight is that strong. Also in a normal match survivors will use perks multiple times.
@@haiz768 Let's please not start this ''blah blah blah sided'' discussion again, with respects, Hex: Mommy milkers
always love to see a hens video pop up in between the days w/o a stream :)
i havent played dbd for years and i really enjoyed ur analysis (: please make more videos!! love from australia
The healing hitbox tech gave me brain rot
It's so annoying. There's no need for the game allowing that to happen.
@@morphd82 all he had to do was aim down before swinging, that's firmly on him.
@@JondarKorric Actually that's not true. If a blight is in a rush, he can look up/down but as soon as you attack, the game automatically directs the attack back to the centre. Only if the blight is not using his power can you direct the attacks downwards.
I feel like one more game would decide exactly who is better simply by letting the survivors use any perk, and item etc and letting the killer use whatever they want also, this way we could actually determine strength where in an actual game how strong are they when there’s no setbacks, like here the survivors had to use specific perks but how well do the killers perform when the survivor has anything at their disposal
They did that...
That first Blight match was so sad. He was so close to the 4k! :(
Nurse. I don't even know why there is a debate, Blight can't ignore pallets or windows and has an actual cooldown and counterplay, plus Nurse has a much, much lower skill ceiling and a higher skill floor.
Nurse is better in chase, but Blight just has zero weaknesses. If Nurse gets a bad map with a lot of LoS blocking, she's just not that good. Plus most Nurse rely a lot on aura reading, so if you take away her aura reading with a perk like Distortion, she'll have a lot harder of a time dealing with you, since Nurse is terrible if she has to go looking around for people. Big maps also make things harder for her since she's really slow by default and if she wants to use teleports just to move around the map, she has nothing left to hunt survivors.
Thing with Blight is that he has amazing map presence, and beyond that he's a fast basic killer. Even if you use his blight rush for nothing more than whipping from gen to gen, he's really good. After the nurse add-on nerfs I think Blight is the better killer. Nurse is still top tier, but Blight is king, because he has no weaknesses.
@@taragnor
No weakness? Try pallets and walls... I 100% agree that blight can be more versatile with his mobility and his busted set of addons but in chase there IS counter play. You see pro players do it all the time. Things such as blocking the shack doorway to prevent a bounce or playing around small tight loops. They're niche, for sure, but there is a lot less you can do against a nurse in chase than a blight...
@@citronvi0let847 Walls and pallets aren't a weakness to Blight, it's just a common killer mechanic. Basic M1 killers like Sadako and Myers are weak to pallets and walls, blight... not so much. And with compound 33 Blight tears apart pallets real fast.
When I say no weaknesses, I mean Blight is a killer that is good in chase, has good information, and has good map pressure. Yes, Nurse is better in chase, but she's weaker in the other categories. Nurse has one gimmick, teleport, and that's it. If you're able to block LoS and trick her with the teleport, you can beat her. Without teleport she's not even a basic killer, she's slower than a survivor. Furthermore, Nurse is pretty weak to stealth. If she doesn't know where you are, it's tough for her to go searching.
Blight really has no such problems. Even if you can dodge his Blighted rush, he's still a fast basic killer. Even if the guy sucks with Blighted rush and uses it just for map traversal and getting relatively close to survivors, he still gets an insane amount of map presence and he's still about as good in chase as a killer like Wraith. Because at any time you can bounce around the map with a rocket engine with barely any start-up time, unlike a character like Billy who has to fully rev his chainsaw to get the speed, or Wraith who has to spend time cloaking.
@@taragnor
Ahhh I get what you're saying now, I agree, Mb... I was thrown off by "Blight has no weaknesses" I thought you were talking about him having absolutely 0 counterplay rather than him just being strong in every situation. You are very correct in this regard.
Incredible showcase, thanks hens and players!
Even though most comp games are boring in terms of how the killer wins (hardcore tunneling) it’s still such a pleasure to see the best killers play at such a high level of skill. Ggs!
You said there were no restrictions/rules for either side in the unrestricted games (e.g. 38:26), but it looked like the survivors were still using no repeating perks/yellow items?
Were there still rules for their builds?
@@haiz768 skill issue
@@haiz768 have you tried improving your gameplay and game sense?
@@haiz768 the game is survivor sided
@@haiz768 That’s quite literally the definition of “skill issue”. The game is massively survivor-sided, even more so in SWF situations. If you cannot win even in a SWF, you’re literally just bad.
Just get better. If you can’t, go back to Roblox.
@@TheSorcerer1 Yeah rigt, the game is so overwelmingly survivor sided that onne of the best team in the world just lost all of their games in the video you just watched. Stay blindfolded forever dbd community.
I love this longer type videos hens! Can you do more other high level killer like Spirit
The nature of Nurse her power is just stronger in every instance of chase basically, but Blight is cooler, easier to traverse the map with and also faster, better addons, better cosmetics, more fun, cooler backstory and a ton of techs that you can learn and master, Blight imo has the highest skill ceiling in the game which alone is just reason enough to get to the challenge and learn to play him
i agree, to counter nurse youve gotta be lucky but to counter blight you must have a really good understanding of game and good looping skills
I think overall in public games nurse is stronger, because people dont understand how to play against the nurse, but, however, in comp scene blight is much stronger because nurse doesnt have "deadzones" like blight, so imo blight is stronger (definetily not because im p100 blight) :)
good video overall, watched that live and liked the commentary in the video here, big respects!
Hello Hens, I've been looking forward to seeing some competitive dbd matches, do you have any tournaments you would advice me to watch?
although it is in Japanese
Hey bro, I'm not Hens but Dead by Daylight League (DBDLeague on Twitch and UA-cam) is the biggest tournament there is. From there I think you could find a lot more like ChampionsOfTheFog
@@haiz768 then why you don't play killer and lose every killer game, than saying this game is not fun for killers anymore?
@@humanngan91 It's a bot
Then why do you reply to every comment? To tell everyone you don’t like the game because no one cares
Also, can anyone explain why the nurse was running agitation with the rest of the build? To get carry survivors closer to gens and waste less time with hooking?
Yes, most survivors run to the edge of the map against nurse to attempt to waste as much time as possible, agitation somewhat negates it
Tierlist placement discussion aside, 40:10 That down was hilariously timed xD
Virtual using compound instead of double speed is insane.
Remember up to green does not apply to adrenaline vial which is always bannaed in comp, it would be a very different match if that wasn't the case.
Blight skill ceiling is definitely higher, but both killers are fkin broken in the right hands
I think you should do this again after the blight addon changes are live and virtual has had time to practice with them :)
Sadly virtual cannot play killer anymore for awhile, he has a nerve injury which takes hella long to get better from
The freaking caliber of all of these gamers. It’s unreal. Wp!
As a blight main i didnt know you could kick gens while in fatigue, mostly because I've never kicked a gen as blight except when i was still learning him
I'll say it again: TOP TIER video here.
Hens bro I fucking love when u do these kinda videos they so good to watch keep them coming ❤
i think overall nurse is strong in just regular power, blights add one are what make him so great, as a survivor i’d rather go against a blight than a nurse any day, more fun for both sides imo
I've always enjoyed Blight (minus alch ring) as a survivor but it's getting to the point where I'm starting to hate Spirit more than Nurse, it's just not fun going against a strong spirit
Shouldve done a video about Nurse vs. Sadako smh
Bro that blight actually had that 4k. Hitbox literally screwed him
You will never see these mind games in queue, this is sick
we love a hens video to start the day
That missed hit because of the heal costing him the 4K is insane. Unlucky.
More like the glitched hitbox on blight
Obviously, in a game with this many variables, we’re gonna need a bigger sample size to determine a clear winner, but cool to see the king and queen of dbd face of like this anyway
Amazing content thx Hens
Very interesting games, cool relusts on both sides. XD That hitbox in first v1rtual's game
47:53 “… and Ada has no hair” 👩🦲 HAD ME DYINGG😂😂
I’m pretty sure both killers would’ve gotten 4ks if they ran Deadlock
*Seeing the power that theese two killers possess we have decided to take action and nerf pig*
The best way to put it is that nurse is amazing in early game but falls of late game, Blight is bad early game but amazing end game
Did I just lived behind the moon? How can she blink twice while only having one blink ready? So often thats happening in the games i dont understand
since I've come back to dbd I've noticed the very good comp players for whatever reason always use ace just like hens I'm not sure why that's is, is there a reason?
hes the quietest character when injured in the game im pretty sure
@@Wither-xj5cp ok that’s what I assumed ever since I came back and the nerf to iron will I realized how god damn loud characters are
Tbh the compound 33 is from the setting not bad. I mean they actually could remove the slow down and add a more longer stun duration. For the ring, eeeeh they should make it iri tbh
Damn though, your commentary made it even more exciting. Is there a video you can recommend that can explain that crouch tech against Blight? I have seen people do it but never saw a clear explanation of how it works. I’m just trying to learn from Professor Hens lol.
He made a video on his second channel
Bro I couldn't understannd any of Hens commentary at all
nurse is stronger cuz she's simpler , Blight is extremely hard to master , personal il pass both , they both cus me a headache
Maybe next we can see top tier Nurse/blight vs top tier trapper
I refuse to believe that the first Blight match was anything but a 4k. He had the hit perfectly lined-up but the game simply said no
Bro has a tech named after him
what i really want to see is a direct comparison if every Survivor brings the strongest stuff they can and face against the strongest Killer who also brings the strongest things they can.
And then the same thing but they arent allowed to discuss who brings wich Perks and Items and arent allowed to communicate at all.
They are also not allowed to bring exactly the same Build they use for Tournaments. Basically, everyone just brings what they themselves deem: The strongest Build. No bringing The Perks that fit best with their Position in the Team or what they think their Role is in the Team.
Its basically a comparison between SWF and SoloQ but with not only highly skilled Survivors, but also the strongest possible Perks and Items added because No SoloQ Team runs without Perks so it wouldnt be a fair comparison.
I have something fairly similar planned.
@@hens333 nice, your Videos are awesome and I love watching them. Can't wait to see what you have in Store for Us.
Außerdem finde ich es so cool das ein Deutscher so viel Erfolg hat im englischen UA-cam Bereich. Ist nicht leicht nen ganzen Stream lang eine andere Sprache zu sprechen :D
3rd game by the Nurse was definitely their worst, mistakes were made and they didn’t even use bookmark. Probably felt cocky after the first 2 games and decided to meme with return blink
Imo, nurse is a bti better in indoor maps such as rpd, but blight is harder top juke once youve mastered him
First game starts “This addon is usually banned in tournaments” ah so Blight is disqualified.
first game healing hitboxes turned 4k into 2k. That's very unfortunate
Damn good video dude. What’s the strongest killers after blight and nurse?
spirit
Spirit
Wow blocking collisions is S tier
Why did the nurse not use torn bookmark with campbells, boggles my mind. With those two you basically become mobile like blight and you can guarantee a down everytime without fail on mid to short distance chases with her triple blink. The recharges is not that bad anymore ever since they buffed torn bookmark recharge time by 20%. Then with campbells you have 40 meters of free distance you can cover to either defend gens or catch up to a survivor who pre-ran. Then when you are close enough you wait for 2 blinks if they are in an open area and get the hit normally or wait for your 3 blinks and guarantee the hit no matter where they are.
Prob banned in the ruleset
@@MaryDBD the last match was free to use any add ons
@@Lobi10879 Idk maybe laser isn’t used to that add on
Momo has only be outed 2 times ever.. pretty strong
They could have used 5 blink nurse or campbells for 40 meter blinks. Idk if this was before those changes, if so then idk what was good then. Im not to used to the comp side of dbd, but is ultra slugging out of the game? Wouodnt it be more viable in this sutation?
Im tlaking about the last round
Nurse and Blight are so damn OP they should fricking nerf Pig already!!
Even a a blight or nurse with best build loses if doesn't tunnel!
3:50 sounds like you need to replace the batteries in your smoke detector lol
that healing hitbox bs would make me uninstall the game, v1rtual deserved the 4k
Why survivors didn't have best items
I think nurse is still stronger because they’re is no looping
Those hitboxes on the first game fucked him so hard like wtf
41:36 yeah 3% feels a lot with new Gabriel perk xd
My personal favorite is wesker but the blight is a close 2nd blight is just so fun
I thought exize plays for sequence though - did you sub him on for someone who couldnt make it from eternal
After the nerf Blight is definitely stronger at top level. They have similar chase abilities with a slight edge to Nurse (it really is slight-- really good Blights are extremely deadly in chase, the difference between him and Nurse is not actually that large in this capacity). However, Blight has wayyy better map traversal and can synergize with top perks better.
Yeah if it's a flat map (like most DBD maps), then Blight is better with the map traversal. The thing with Blight is that he has zero weaknesses. He's good at everything. Nurse has one really powerful gimmick but other than that is pretty weak.
@@taragnor even on multi level maps like RPD and The Game, Blight is still better than Nurse. anyone who has played Blight more than a couple times can easily follow you around corners and Blight really only has 3 bad add ons, all of which are browns
nurse's power is still better in chase imo. blight has the better add-ons and mobility. I'd say it's actually very close between the two.
Am i the only one who thought it was going to be SupAlf VS LilithOmen ?
Yes cause they aren't the best ones. They are just well known
It’s wild they nerfed nurse’s biggest counter, dead hard 😳
Bnps not allowed in comp? (As per last game with no restrictions)
Is this before CoB nerf?
My opinion, both share number 1 but blight is better, nurse is a well oiled killing machine, but blight is pure style and showmanship. That's why I think he's better