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  • @hens333
    @hens333  5 місяців тому +84

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    • @swiftyman
      @swiftyman 5 місяців тому +2

      hi

    • @andrewmaldonado2603
      @andrewmaldonado2603 5 місяців тому +1

      The code doesn't seem to work .-. I'm from NA don't know if that matters

    • @Rururararururi
      @Rururararururi 5 місяців тому

      I'm sorry asking it here, but how did you solve the internet/ping problems ?

    • @ItsHedge
      @ItsHedge 5 місяців тому +1

      oh no

    • @MMastaM
      @MMastaM 5 місяців тому

      Strange that your "Top Japanese Players" play like my f ing Grandma with bound eyes...and your onewallfree English is still hilarious

  • @HungryMungry77
    @HungryMungry77 5 місяців тому +1905

    The amount of times I've heard "Xeno" and "4k" in the same sentence while watching competitive dbd is insane.

    • @NotTsurugi
      @NotTsurugi 5 місяців тому +151

      Xeno is absolutely one of the best Killer players. I've seen many matches of him showcased on various channels, and he always destroys.

    • @dxshywxshy8916
      @dxshywxshy8916 5 місяців тому +8

      @@NotTsurugiTHE best

    • @reaper2302
      @reaper2302 5 місяців тому

      Zaka might want to talk with you about that ​@@dxshywxshy8916

    • @makashika
      @makashika 5 місяців тому +57

      ​@@dxshywxshy8916 Not THE best, but definitely one of the best. He's a little bit more of a specialist compared to Zaka or Wispy who are more of Jack of All Trades. He's still a top tier killer irregardless.

    • @farteatereater22
      @farteatereater22 5 місяців тому +2

      @@makashika most exciting to watch for sure

  • @NotTsurugi
    @NotTsurugi 5 місяців тому +1072

    That Legion on Gideon vs the Japanese Survivors was insane. That ending is so surprising considering obviously, in the West, we consider Self Care a pretty bad perk. That actually won them the end game there. Absolutely insane.

    • @korniestpatch
      @korniestpatch 5 місяців тому +64

      Because self care isn’t a bad perk? We just been using it wrong

    • @Peachrocks5
      @Peachrocks5 5 місяців тому +152

      @@korniestpatch This and I’ve always stated as such. Self care is good when used wisely but because it has a reputation of being used constantly and inefficiently, it’s thought to be bad in turn.

    • @hanktheclank
      @hanktheclank 5 місяців тому +75

      yeah it's a good reminder that sometimes the way some perks are treated isn't really a good indicator of how useful they actually are. i've been running self-care + botany since last year and it's been the difference between winning and losing my solo queue matches so many times i've lost track.

    • @Nink262
      @Nink262 5 місяців тому +59

      @@Peachrocks5 Yeah, they used Self-care like twice in total during the game instead of doing it whole game like 99% survivor players do

    • @official_simon_sabre7566
      @official_simon_sabre7566 5 місяців тому +22

      Which just goes to show you that dbd is all about skills and ppl who complain about perks being “too op” or useless just don’t know how to play the game and use the perks to their full potential

  • @sf8262
    @sf8262 5 місяців тому +1007

    A dbd world cup would be insanely awesome

    • @siegward2548
      @siegward2548 5 місяців тому +10

      Imagine

    • @odthenrecover
      @odthenrecover 5 місяців тому +25

      Unfair bc Eternal would just destroy everyone

    • @sf8262
      @sf8262 5 місяців тому +99

      @@odthenrecover they couldnt because they're not from the same country. thats what makes world cup so interesting, its based on country so all the best players are on different teams

    • @Chunicorn1337
      @Chunicorn1337 5 місяців тому +16

      @@sf8262The western players only lost because they played on a ruleset they are not used to (Half of the games) but they still won a majority of the matches

    • @kenzotk
      @kenzotk 5 місяців тому +102

      @@Chunicorn1337 and the asian players only lost because they played on a ruleset they are not used to (half of the games) 🤷

  • @True_Term
    @True_Term 5 місяців тому +416

    Hens going on his ultimate training arc, working with players from around the world to improve. Samurai jack of DBD hahaha

    • @raphix2221
      @raphix2221 5 місяців тому +4

      Is this a Chris Bradford reference?

    • @Hotaruflash
      @Hotaruflash 5 місяців тому +8

      @@raphix2221 No, it's a Samurai Jack reference. Samurai Jack got his skills after his father, the Emperor of Japan, sent him around the world as a child to train with different cultures' fighting techniques.

    • @raphix2221
      @raphix2221 5 місяців тому +5

      @@Hotaruflash if I had a nickel for every Samurai I know who is called Jack, I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice ^^

  • @dicerson9976
    @dicerson9976 5 місяців тому +195

    The Japanese blight did actually use hug tech a couple times in that game, but both times camera was on survivor and it was a very quick and very short hug tech on one of the L walls to mindgame a window, and that was basically it. Which just goes to show that it's not a matter of not knowing or not having it practiced- they can Hug Tech if they want, but they actively choose not to. They aren't constantly forcing it like western blights do.

  • @feeli3422
    @feeli3422 4 місяці тому +109

    “This is kinda common for Japanese games, they don’t tend to tunnel that much.” I’m moving to Japan.

    • @Mimankuks
      @Mimankuks 2 місяці тому +8

      well probably only comp, i imagine theres also THOSE kind of dbd players over there

    • @Yourbeautiful666
      @Yourbeautiful666 2 місяці тому +5

      There’s been a lot of Japanese players on NA servers lately. They’re all tunneling.

    • @nishathktnishathkt7472
      @nishathktnishathkt7472 Місяць тому +1

      Only in comp,since they allow anti-tunneling perks

    • @senyapsilent6694
      @senyapsilent6694 Місяць тому

      ​@@Yourbeautiful666because they used to play with NA server

    • @RamzaBeo
      @RamzaBeo 26 днів тому +1

      Or just get better… You can’t tunnel what you can’t catch. Countless matches killers let me go because they know 2-3 gens will pop while chasing me. Yea go ahead and hate buddy

  • @No-uy2sm
    @No-uy2sm 5 місяців тому +112

    Hey, Hens! Great video! The only thing I wish you would add for future reference (if you ever do an "east vs west" video) is going through the rules specifically and how they differ to western comp rules. For people like me who aren't very tuned into comp rules!

  • @dirky1185
    @dirky1185 5 місяців тому +336

    Damn, Japan makes comp look fun and not turbo boring. pretty cool

    • @qoughitup
      @qoughitup 5 місяців тому +96

      Ikr? watching the Japanese killers was actually entertaining compared to EUNA basically just boiling down to the question of “tunnel, camp, or both?”

    • @D-Doc-C
      @D-Doc-C 5 місяців тому +71

      ​@@qoughitupI also like the perk variety in the Japanese setting. You'd never see totems being used a EU/NA setting

    • @illeagle3220
      @illeagle3220 5 місяців тому +17

      Yeah that self heal and botany looks so much more interesting...

    • @HG-py4gj
      @HG-py4gj 5 місяців тому +27

      that's why I don't watch tournaments, I tried once but watching a hunteess just proxy camping and tunneling isn't really interesting to me tbh

    • @DoctorDarlingTTV
      @DoctorDarlingTTV 5 місяців тому +8

      Thanato legion while different isn’t really what most people find fun and not-boring lolol

  • @KimJongUwU
    @KimJongUwU 5 місяців тому +401

    Dbd lans would go crazy, shame behaviour fumbled the pro scene

    • @Lacter12
      @Lacter12 5 місяців тому +30

      oh man, the chases would have so much more skill expression and reaction time

    • @big_DAD_wolf
      @big_DAD_wolf 5 місяців тому +18

      Yea because only seeing blight and nurse in every game is interesting

    • @fenderpleb2942
      @fenderpleb2942 5 місяців тому +100

      @@big_DAD_wolf tournaments have huge restrictions typically, it's never nurse/blight only. i still don't think comp is viable in dbd but saying it's nurse and blight only is just wrong.

    • @sava-sd9eb
      @sava-sd9eb 5 місяців тому

      ​@@big_DAD_wolfyou should watch the video

    • @adi_baa
      @adi_baa 5 місяців тому +10

      competition: who fumbled their comp scene more, team fortress 2, overwatch 2, dead by daylight? All 3 fucked up comp badly and 2 of them went abandoned/became a new game to survive

  • @th3TwistedLight
    @th3TwistedLight 5 місяців тому +314

    I like the "No breaking Hex totems unless 1 gen is popped" imposed rule, eliminates at least some of the impact of "Well they spawned with my hex totems up their bum and cleansed it in first minute of the match"

    • @gianglai7346
      @gianglai7346 5 місяців тому +57

      Should be a real thing imo.

    • @TheWooperr
      @TheWooperr 5 місяців тому +23

      yea but if you have ruin then you can just hold gens and have hour long games 😭😭

    • @D-Doc-C
      @D-Doc-C 5 місяців тому +23

      Also makes totems viable in a competitive setting, expanding the perk variety which is always nice to see

    • @korjezilla
      @korjezilla 5 місяців тому +18

      I think Hex should not spawn immediately. They should just have a little cooldown in the beginning

    • @atmosdwagon4656
      @atmosdwagon4656 5 місяців тому +21

      Came down to the comments to say exactly this.
      I'd make it so no totems can be touched and Hexes won't appear as Lit until the first hook occurs or first generator is complete. That way the killer can't hold games hostage via abusing Ruin and effects-based Hexes beyond Plaything, NOED and Devour Hope might actually see some amount of play beyond niche/troll builds for a change.

  • @Qnor
    @Qnor 5 місяців тому +196

    The difference between the two play styles on Blight was very interesting to watch

    • @Crispy_DAWG
      @Crispy_DAWG 4 місяці тому +5

      I know right. Playing against a blight like that would absolutely throw me for a loop because i’m so used to seeing hug techs lol

  • @NostromoFeratu
    @NostromoFeratu 5 місяців тому +73

    "We use the classic Die in a Corner" strategy." I love that this isnt used ironically LOL

  • @RenDBD
    @RenDBD 5 місяців тому +191

    I was about to sleep but you dropped this one. If I get late to school tmrw it's completely on Hens for delaying my sleep for 1 hour🤷‍♂️ just saying..

  • @xIKeepaIx
    @xIKeepaIx 5 місяців тому +313

    It was awesome to watch live. While the EU/NA rules try to bring the most balance possible, the JP rules allow chaos and excitement.
    Super interesting, thanks at all involved to make this happen.

    • @Rixstuff.
      @Rixstuff. 5 місяців тому +21

      I agree, and I’m still shocked by their self care meta

    • @NotTsurugi
      @NotTsurugi 5 місяців тому +102

      Honestly, after watching these games, I realize that the Japanese ruleset allows for much higher variety and more entertaining games. Western competitive games can get pretty basic as most of the teams/perks are the same. These games made me respect how much more interesting and wild competitive could be if it was unfiltered.

    • @odthenrecover
      @odthenrecover 5 місяців тому +6

      JP was boring to me watching multiple of them self care

    • @pokecole37
      @pokecole37 5 місяців тому +10

      @@NotTsurugi more entertaining games of hex ruin you can't cleanse at 5 gens with thana

    • @avian1799
      @avian1799 5 місяців тому +19

      The way I see it the EUNA ruleset places bans to add more consistency in perk choices, while JP takes out several aspects that limit perk choices, such as stopping Hex cleanses before a Gen completes. It adds consistency in its own right, without significantly pushing certain perk choices over others

  • @Epicness560
    @Epicness560 5 місяців тому +68

    The self sustaining heals while others are pumping gens is actually a great way to play props to them

    • @FoxExcess
      @FoxExcess 5 місяців тому +13

      It's almost like that's what the point of the perk is or something

  • @ItzzJaezzmen_
    @ItzzJaezzmen_ 5 місяців тому +72

    Love the Puppers charm the japanese Nea is wearing ❤

  • @jorginho2k034
    @jorginho2k034 5 місяців тому +75

    What a great idea, I can only imagine the work Hens made to gather all the players with the timezone difference and also to comment and edit the video, great stuff as always

    • @Libellulaire
      @Libellulaire 4 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, the Japanese players were playing late evening and even at night in order to be able to play with the EU and NA people.
      Osaaka for example is West NA, meaning he has a 16h difference with the Japanese players... Organising that must have been very difficult.

    • @itsmyghost6337
      @itsmyghost6337 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Libellulaire that is not how timezones work in this case.
      For example, while there is indeed a 16 hour difference between Japan & NA, for scheduling purposes, that falls down to 8 hours (and the most it would ever be is 12 hours).
      Current times, as of writing this comment:
      - Japan: 7 PM, June 22nd
      - NA West: 3 AM, June 22nd
      So, if you backpedal those times by, say, 8 hours, everyone has a decent time:
      - Japan: 11 AM, June 22nd
      - NA West: 7 PM, June 21st
      Basically, just schedule it on a weekend (which i think was the case), with one side playing around late morning / noon & the other playing around evening

  • @bubbleteaichooseyou
    @bubbleteaichooseyou 5 місяців тому +27

    The Japanese played honorably which is very entertaining to watch. If other region plays like this I would also watch the tournament

    • @bugdev7384
      @bugdev7384 3 місяці тому +1

      ikr, it isn't any gamer's fault though, tunneling and camping is just the most efficient way to win but definitely not fun, who wants that?

    • @bubbleteaichooseyou
      @bubbleteaichooseyou 3 місяці тому +1

      @bugdev7384 yeah very unfortunate

    • @regulargoat7259
      @regulargoat7259 3 місяці тому +2

      @@bugdev7384 you say that, but that Legion game on Gideon was incredible. Regardless of speed, it turned out to be more effective than the western playstyle, and way more fun to watch too, as each of the western survivors got a chance to shine rather than one of them being killed off boringly early.

    • @regulargoat7259
      @regulargoat7259 3 місяці тому +2

      Id absolutely watch western tournaments if they played like the japanese. The language barrier sucks

  • @opechatka
    @opechatka 5 місяців тому +271

    Man, i love Japan. They are playing as fun as possible. Trying to outskill, not to outperk. That was very interesting to watch, thank you.

    • @ratman6754
      @ratman6754 5 місяців тому +133

      Very “thing in USA:😡 thing in Japan: 🤩” type comment.

    • @opechatka
      @opechatka 5 місяців тому +56

      @@ratman6754 fyi I'm not from USA nor Europe. Just an observation.

    • @TheOGRecipe
      @TheOGRecipe 5 місяців тому

      ​@@ratman6754>gives legitmate observation
      "you're glazing japan when its the same in the US"
      you have that fat person mindset ngl

    • @hanktheclank
      @hanktheclank 5 місяців тому +59

      @@ratman6754 this video: western and japanese playstyles are different. ratman when someone says something about that: "oh you're a weeb? weird stinky weeb?" 😂 people will just say shit they hear whether it applies or not i guess

    • @Ro-Ghost
      @Ro-Ghost 5 місяців тому +28

      ​@opechatka you're saying Japanese players win with fun while other regions wins with perks
      Also they are trying to out perk as well they just have a different meta I'm not sure if you know what that means but they have a different competitive playstyle and thus adapted a different perk loadout to fit that

  • @ryanlutes9833
    @ryanlutes9833 5 місяців тому +30

    This is the video I've wanted for so long. The different regional playstyles are super interesting, and it's really awesome that the different communities are overcoming the language barrier to share their gameplay with the entire community.
    The Eastern playstyle and ruleset reminds me a lot of the Western scene a few years ago. Even with all the nerfs, Self-Care has never been a terrible pick for comp settings. Always having the ability to heal for a rescue when other players can't can be really clutch, with not much the killer can do if comms are good. It's only pub matches where it's really terrible; people too eager to use it all the time, worse comms, etc.
    I think they will likely move slightly more towards Western playstyle over time, just because it's had a longer time to mature and develop. But I'm pretty sure there will always be big differences in both scenes due to the culture. Hit and run is definitely viable, just not as reliable as tunneling when there aren't perk restrictions.

  • @-___-__-
    @-___-__- 5 місяців тому +22

    The ban on emoting is actually super cool to know.

  • @danowen79
    @danowen79 5 місяців тому +17

    I appreciate the Japanese killer mentality of not tunnelling people out, but focusing on gen control. Still find it strange self care and botany is so popular there. And in general it feels like they’re at their best when it’s using their rules and on The Game 😂

  • @kamisguide
    @kamisguide 5 місяців тому +30

    This video is absolutely amazing. It's one of the best I've seen in terms of competitive. That legion gameplay from the japanese killer was inspiring.

    • @FoxExcess
      @FoxExcess 5 місяців тому +1

      here's a napkin you have some brown on your nose

  • @Specdrums
    @Specdrums 5 місяців тому +40

    Hens, you and Otz have improved so much on commentating together . Seriously , the flow between you two and the back and forth is getting so good!
    If dbd ever makes it to pro league , u guys are ready for it !

  • @880calil
    @880calil 5 місяців тому +8

    I started dbd while living in Japan so I’m used to it. I was so shocked of the amount of camping, tunneling, tbagging and post chat negativity when I went to travel and played dbd on EU server. Not saying JP don’t do that shit but its much much less, esp post chat. Most toxic play I experienced was from Chinese and Korean players though.

    • @regulargoat7259
      @regulargoat7259 3 місяці тому +1

      Australian here. Chat’s usually pretty wholesome here too, except for when people accuse others of cheating because of the build or character they’re running. (Was playing legion with the perk distressing, had a guy try to report me for knowing where everyone was? It was just the power’s killer instinct)

  • @lingling4891
    @lingling4891 5 місяців тому +16

    The japanese legion really inspired me to play him more. I love a hit and run playstyle and the way he did it was so pressuring on the survivors.. that they weren't able to complete any gen in so long is really impressive considering these weren't just any survivors but a full on eu comp team...

    • @tylerwhitehawk1544
      @tylerwhitehawk1544 5 місяців тому +8

      japanese ruleset and ruin played a huge role tho

    • @regulargoat7259
      @regulargoat7259 3 місяці тому +2

      @@tylerwhitehawk1544 the main advantage the ruleset gave them is ruin potentially lasting longer, although theres some games of dbd i have where it takes 2+ gens for ruin to be cleansed anyway, so that rule being missing isn’t a total dealbreaker. Plus other gen regression perks exist

  • @larsburrito
    @larsburrito 5 місяців тому +10

    You and Otz always sound so happy watching games together! It's like two dads watching sports XD

  • @makashika
    @makashika 5 місяців тому +11

    As someone who has played on EU, NAE, NAW, SA and Japanese servers, the playstyle you see in Japan and other asian servers is truly unique from any other region. Its really not comparable. NA and EU translate very well to each other, the primary differences being macro or mechanical focus, but Japanese servers are more about self sufficiency in combination with Macro (thus SC botany being the meta over there) over most other things. Getting flashlight saves or other cheeky things is so much easier, as its not the norm. Its really an interesting experience.

  • @ethan6437
    @ethan6437 5 місяців тому +16

    Fun fact: in australia (or at least Western Australia) I for some reason will be put in Japanese servers sometimes and I see everyone BUT ME using self care and botany where as I’m using perks to help me heal others but they never let me heal them! 😂

  • @FoxExcess
    @FoxExcess 5 місяців тому +5

    The overpraising of other countries is getting ridiculous. They played completely normally, and made a ton of stupid mistakes as well. Which is normal. Yet everyone has their noses up their azz just because they're japanese. Self care is still in high use in the west even after the nerf. There is nothing crazy about this whatsoever.

    • @syn4621
      @syn4621 5 місяців тому

      this guy gets it

  • @lachlanfarrow7349
    @lachlanfarrow7349 4 місяці тому +7

    bro bring back the entire day of footage of the tournaments i was watching that man ):

  • @Hellschwarz
    @Hellschwarz 5 місяців тому +7

    I wish dbd implemented a ruleset like this, that made tunneling unattractive. You can see that it works in the japanese ruleset.

    • @FoxExcess
      @FoxExcess 5 місяців тому

      How about whoever unhooks is exposed for 15 seconds, it helps stop tunneling and helps stop people who are trying to farm unhooks. We can take that off if there's only 2 people alive left etc. Tons of things can be done. But at the end of the day I don't think anything should be done. If your team can't stop a killer from tunnelling or work around it to only lose one person in the match, then you don't deserve to win. 3 out is still a win for the whole team. If I'm tunnelled or for any other reason have to be a sacrifice I have no problem with it. You want to waste all your time on me and lose the game overall? That's fine.

  • @torei9261
    @torei9261 5 місяців тому +21

    I think western players can learn something here. Not tunneling even works in competitive. So the sweatfest situation we are currently in is completely unnecessary and a skill issue after all

    • @Ro-Ghost
      @Ro-Ghost 5 місяців тому +4

      You're saying all western killers have a skill issue compared to Japanese players?
      They're both skillful and have adapted different playstyles, allowing tunneling and camping in my opinion allows more room for team work

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому +1

      xeno made a mistake on his build. DMS provided not enough value to carry pain res/grim embrace tunnel. he needed deadlock to slow down gen-rush. I think it is because his build has pop goes weasel as 4th slot but he wasn't able to select it which messed up his 3 gen comeback possibility due to not being able to regress gens.

    • @leonthegamer2839
      @leonthegamer2839 5 місяців тому +4

      ​​@@Ro-GhostI think it is more of a tru3 mindset within the Western community that the og comment poster is referring to.
      Many people say that tunneling and camping is necessary against strong teams.
      But that "justification" usually is nothing but copium.
      Most people do not go against comp swfs and most people are not as good as comp killers. They just copy paste the most skill-less aspects and than use the lame ass "but it is necessary......" as an excuse.
      Obviously Western comp players are skilled but also got used to tunneling and camping gameplay. (Funnily enough not 100% of the time though because even Western comp players have already shown that it isn't actually necessary)
      The Japanese playstile is definitly more interactive and overall more fun.
      But both comp scenes have insanely skilled comp players no doubt.
      It is just a funny situation that after years of hearing "tunneling and camping is necessary if you wanna win" bs the Japanese comp player come in like "watch me".

    • @bloxer9563
      @bloxer9563 5 місяців тому +1

      @@leonthegamer2839 good take

    • @leonthegamer2839
      @leonthegamer2839 5 місяців тому

      @@bloxer9563 thx appreciated :)

  • @computerlube
    @computerlube 5 місяців тому +2

    So what we see here is Japanese prefer honorable game play over tunneling game play and still managed to win a few games. as far as I'm concerned western lost. imagine playing killers that actually use skill to win instead of using the copout that tunneling is a strategy

    • @CoolAdera
      @CoolAdera 4 місяці тому

      But they still have some restrictions to gameplay so you just couldnt do some things that are common to the western competitive. I guess the game itself should allow any gameplay with the lowest count of restrictions made.

  • @viciousfox8645
    @viciousfox8645 5 місяців тому +6

    The legion game on Gideon was insane, I thought they would never do a single gen😮

  • @Spudmay
    @Spudmay 4 місяці тому +4

    I moved to japan a few months ago, and ive been loving playing dbd here. Ive been adopting the self care meta as well, lol.

  • @pknoob1263
    @pknoob1263 5 місяців тому +8

    would love to see the players take on the different playstyles at the end of a video like this, amazing content, keep it up!

  • @EdwinCristobal
    @EdwinCristobal 5 місяців тому +7

    Crazyyyy how there are several different mechanics, techniques, perks, and overall gameplay on different sides of the world

  • @asrieldreemurr1918
    @asrieldreemurr1918 5 місяців тому +8

    Self care is still good if you know when to use it

  • @ChaosRevealsOrder
    @ChaosRevealsOrder 3 місяці тому +2

    3:56 "That's a mindgame" HAHA, no it's called ping. It's literally impossible to go down on that palet against an M1.

  • @FlooidsGame
    @FlooidsGame 5 місяців тому +8

    This was an amazing video to watch. i love seeing a new play style being used and used well at that.
    keep it up!

  • @MurphysLawGaming-yg6bk
    @MurphysLawGaming-yg6bk 5 місяців тому +8

    The bump logic on the Japanese Players blight was so impressive

    • @allstar_
      @allstar_ Місяць тому

      ye some of the flicks and reaction time on top of that. Sick plays

  • @Yatezylad
    @Yatezylad 5 місяців тому +4

    That legion game was an absolute masterclass. Waits paitently for the whole game, managing the power, then eventually catches the one big mistake and immediately the game is over

  • @flamedramon68
    @flamedramon68 5 місяців тому +11

    MFs in this comment section going like
    Dbd: 😐
    Dbd Japan: 😍

    • @sf8262
      @sf8262 5 місяців тому +2

      a lot of americans romanticize japan, but in this case their play styles and rules actually were much more interesting, with more variety than western games

    • @flamedramon68
      @flamedramon68 5 місяців тому +3

      @@sf8262 🙄 You're only saying that because it's your first time being exposed to it. Keep watching it you'll just be saying the same things while watching english comp

    • @Kap01
      @Kap01 5 місяців тому

      @@flamedramon68no he’s right, I’ve watched western comp for a while and Japanese comp is much more interesting in terms of killer mechanical abilities and differing rulesets, it has a different meta and perk selection than western comp that makes it stand out and be worth watching.

    • @flamedramon68
      @flamedramon68 5 місяців тому

      @@Kap01 You could've ended that sentence at "I've watched western comp for a while"
      Like I said, you enjoy Japanese comp more because it's your first time being exposed to it. Eventually, you'll get bored of it if you watch it back to back, making the same plays, with the same rules

    • @Kap01
      @Kap01 5 місяців тому

      @@flamedramon68 but that kinda applies to everything then doesn’t it, eventually you’ll watch something so much that you’ll just get bored of it

  • @lapisinfernalis9052
    @lapisinfernalis9052 5 місяців тому +4

    After seeing the japanese Blight, I think Blight will be fine even without Hug-tech after the update.

  • @reaper2302
    @reaper2302 5 місяців тому +4

    I already said that in the other vid from comp dbd
    I really love the playstyle of the Japanese legion
    It's so nice and refreshing seeing a legion doing such a good job and pressuring down top surv like this
    Actually let me to play legion again, which I kinda gave up even tho they were my main and I still love them the most (especially playstyle, music and cosmetic)

  • @zoedorable
    @zoedorable 5 місяців тому +5

    casually destroying elysium without hugtech, damn

  • @rmad1438
    @rmad1438 5 місяців тому +10

    I remeber watching this live cant wait to rewatch it

  • @Chism8969
    @Chism8969 5 місяців тому +6

    Absolutely brilliant content! Hens333 you are so good at what you do!

  • @eq2lornick
    @eq2lornick 5 місяців тому +6

    A perk that makes it so survivors can't interact with totems until one generator is complete actually seems pretty cool and reasonably balanced.

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому +2

      hex:undying is that perk. hexes are meant to be high risk where you can lose them in first 30 second of the match.

    • @beesus1412
      @beesus1412 5 місяців тому +1

      @@dodang_9147 so why not make another perk to make the risk a bit less high in exchange for some guaranteed early game value? undying can work but still can be done fast, i think a perk to enforce the no cleansing before first gen rule would be neat

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому +2

      @@beesus1412 unless your extremely unlucky, the totem is likely to survive. they do not want to remove the risk of totems. they will only invent perk to reduce risk but never entirely remove it. you can argue that undying is too weak as it used to transfer hexes multiple times but this was deemed too strong. the closest thing they would buff as totem-blocking perk is thrill of the hunt. maybe it blocks all hex totems except itself. sure you could give the condition of it only doing that for first gen. that is closest thing you'll get to the perk.

    • @Aquilenne
      @Aquilenne 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@dodang_9147 That would just make thrill a better undying, and undying feels like it's in a good spot at the moment.

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому

      @@Aquilenne that's the problem with his perk. Not being able to cleanse a totem is power-creeping undying. it is been a common request to make a perk that makes hex totems appear as dull. this is so that survivors don't cleanse the totem right at the start but that is part of risk of what hexes are suppose to be. either way, i think Japanese rule is just there so that killer gets a strong regression perk without doing anything. it is to balance low mobility killer that suck at using pop.

  • @gabbyward7796
    @gabbyward7796 5 місяців тому +5

    JP servers must be so fun to play. Wow I love how they play without tunneling, it’s nice to see different strategies to win

    • @tyjhjgl
      @tyjhjgl 26 днів тому

      殺人鬼キツすぎて全然楽しくないよ

  • @VortexMagus
    @VortexMagus 5 місяців тому +3

    is that nurse playing with a 200 ping disadvantage? Seems like it'd be absolutely crippling for a character as precision heavy as the nurse.

  • @SphinxOfKairo
    @SphinxOfKairo 5 місяців тому +4

    Further confirming asia is NOT good at dbd

  • @moputopia
    @moputopia 5 місяців тому +12

    Acechin, the Japanese Legion, won while technically using only 2 Pain Resonances (3rd one got used after the match was pretty much over). Really fun game to watch live!! There were a lot of Japanese viewers in chat, it was lovely to see.

  • @TheGoldenBoo
    @TheGoldenBoo 5 місяців тому +4

    May as well re-title this video "East Showcase," since we're only shown the Asian players when they're winning.
    For everyone saying some shit about how the eastern rule-set is more "skill-based" than "perk-based," I would like to point out that *they're* the ones with a rule that you can't fucking cleanse a hex (i.e, Ruin) until the first generator is completed. Which is just about the most hand-holdy, mollycodling thing you can possibly do for any killer that wants to run a hex.
    Don't get me wrong. I understand that comp isn't a realistic reflection of public matches no matter what country you go to. My point is that rule exists *purely* to make hex perks way stronger than they actually are.
    I'm also getting a "See? Asian players are *better* at DbD!" vibe from these comments that, I'd like to remind anybody who's seeing this video and coming to that conclusion (or the equally misguided "See? Tunneling *isn't* optimal! The Japanese players don't do it!" idea) that the West actually won. Not "technically" won, not "if you think about it" they won, not "in spirit," they won but literally just objectively won more sets than their opponent did-- making them the winner.
    It makes sense to see this video and conclude that the *West* is actually better than the East, *even including when the West is playing by more East-type rules.* After all, we can assume that, if the west won over half the matches, and the rules changed from more east-like to more west-like or vice versa, there was at least one set in which the west was playing under rules more similar to that of the east and still won.
    Like, no hate against the East players, but please quit being fucking weebs. DbD's annoying in *every* continent. Take off the rose-tinted glasses.

    • @heavy0119
      @heavy0119 5 місяців тому +1

      imo it takes skill to know how a given perk will interact.

    • @munelo1
      @munelo1 2 місяці тому +1

      THIS 💯 perfectly sums up the video and is the only comment worth reading in this comment section, imo

  • @vry6946
    @vry6946 5 місяців тому +9

    It makes me laugh to see the comments saying that the Japanese server must be fun to play because they don't tunnel and they don't realize that that only happens in competitive
    Pubs on Japan server always consist on tunneling like EU

    • @Okami1879
      @Okami1879 5 місяців тому +1

      ikr, I've played on JP servers with Japanese friends and the killers in pubs love tunnelling lol

    • @FoxExcess
      @FoxExcess 5 місяців тому +3

      All comes down to virtue signalling at the end of the day. Praising non whites = easy likes. Praising non whites = look how not racist I am, look how opened minded I am.
      Lets just be real about this. It's been going on for a long time.

    • @Orapac4142
      @Orapac4142 5 місяців тому +5

      @@FoxExcess lmfao I think you need to touch grass. Its definitely got to be virtue signalling, right? Couldnt possibly be person sees/hears how these rules are used in Japan, and immediately think it applies as a whole since people dont tend to use critical thinking any more.

    • @lumiegames
      @lumiegames Місяць тому

      Literally… JP servers are hell. I just moved from Japan to UK and my Japanese swf friends want to join me on EU servers even if the ping is awful, just to have some variety in perks and not get tunnelled or left on hook by randoms every match…

    • @aneurysm.
      @aneurysm. 23 дні тому

      ​@@FoxExcess take an internet detox

  • @stoqns1477
    @stoqns1477 4 місяці тому +2

    Wouldn’t this video have been hard because of ping issues?

  • @TigerKirby215
    @TigerKirby215 5 місяців тому +3

    Deeply respect the Japanese players for showing the power of Etched Ruler Legion and Gift of Pain as a perk. Two of my favorite playstyles that don't see enough use.

  • @awkawkawkx
    @awkawkawkx 5 місяців тому +2

    I played on Asian DBD server for a long time, now I moved to another town and I am playing on EU server. But my Legion playstyle is the same as if its still asian server. Hits, hits, cancel power so I have short cooldown, oblivious addon, very slow match. In asian servers Legion matches are not intense, they are slow as hell mostly because survivors always have Self-care

  • @ItzzJaezzmen_
    @ItzzJaezzmen_ 5 місяців тому +24

    Love the japanese rules and playstyle! Winning by skill and game sense, not only by perks, tunneling and camping. Mad respect for that, especcially the Legion game was insane!

    • @SphinxOfKairo
      @SphinxOfKairo 5 місяців тому +10

      Winning by skill and game sense is western my guy not Japanese

    • @poiint5354
      @poiint5354 5 місяців тому +14

      @@SphinxOfKairoall I see from westeners is camping and tunneling. This is the first time I see a competitive game thats actually entertaining and skillful.

    • @XLamonteCoxX
      @XLamonteCoxX 5 місяців тому +7

      @@poiint5354 We've gone from Killers versus Survivors us versus them to East/West killer/survivor us vs them.

    • @ghj3fbrhebffeewvarfdca985
      @ghj3fbrhebffeewvarfdca985 5 місяців тому +1

      @@XLamonteCoxX on god bro dbd community is cooked ppl js wna argue to argue 😭😭😭

    • @chances7035
      @chances7035 5 місяців тому +6

      "Winning not only by perks" japanese legion playstyle wouldnt have worked without thana and ruin lmaoo, stop making a strawman bro

  • @SITHDUKE
    @SITHDUKE 5 місяців тому +4

    It's 1AM but I gotta watch thissss, work tomorrow is less important than EAST vs WEST! Thanks Hens!

  • @miika2520
    @miika2520 5 місяців тому +2

    could it be, that the japanese teams doesnt use hug tech because its a bug in the game, basiclly an exploit and so its not allowed like bming?

  • @leonenjoyer
    @leonenjoyer 5 місяців тому +4

    That bump logic blight was insane wtf

  • @Mr._Idiot440
    @Mr._Idiot440 5 місяців тому +2

    Ngl. I dislike that "dont touch hex" rule the way its currently implemented. If it was "1st gen or 1st hook" or "1 minute before touching" I wouldnt mind as much, but this current rule just kinda sucks.

  • @piziskewl
    @piziskewl 3 місяці тому +1

    EUNA should adopt the Japanese rules. Way more entertaining than camp camp tunnel.

  • @tschuwack_nr3577
    @tschuwack_nr3577 5 місяців тому +3

    @hens ty for the content..dont think that will avoid killers in EU to Tunnel out weak survs but maybe the good killers will change there gameplay...keep up the good work..

  • @Keyourasa
    @Keyourasa 5 місяців тому +9

    whats really interesting about the japanese meta is games in general is since youtube and twitch arent nearly as big over there in comparison to billie billie they also dont see the western rules or meta really at all they make their own unique rulesets and make their own metas completely independent from the entire rest of the world

  • @kanyumski
    @kanyumski 5 місяців тому +6

    I can see why Japan does those rules. The difference between the enjoyment you get from watching is crazy. Obviously both blights are skilled but it's so much more fun watching a blight win because of their ACTUAL skill of the killer rather than tunnelling one person out instantly so it's a 1v3.

    • @kingol4801
      @kingol4801 5 місяців тому

      I agree.
      Which is why it is important to introduce an offering that allows you to mori one survivor at the start of the match.
      It would save up on the awkward back-and-forth and skip straight to the actual game as intended

  • @teamflyboys
    @teamflyboys 2 місяці тому +1

    I remember playing DBD when I was in Korea, around when Blight dropped, and Korean players have this weird culture of nonaltruism. People will hang on hook until the first gen is completed, even if the hook is right next to a gen, they just don't stop. Very easy to hit red rank and take my Blight to prestige 1.

  • @tomorrowwillbebetter.
    @tomorrowwillbebetter. 5 місяців тому +2

    May be I don't understand something, but why the hell did the survs drop pallets against Legion with frenzy (in the game with Japaneese Legion)? It looks like their main mistake and the reason why they lost. They just wasted pallets and took their downs... Anyway I didn't even suppose that yellow addon can be so strong, I'm definitely going to try this build out.

  • @Yuzuha2.0
    @Yuzuha2.0 5 місяців тому +1

    Hello fresh is a scam stop supporting it :)

  • @sulky_snail
    @sulky_snail 5 місяців тому +4

    Nobody’s finished this video yet… Hens, when are you doing a face reveal? Thx for the vid❤️

    • @dougymalone7124
      @dougymalone7124 5 місяців тому +1

      Hi it's otzdarva, I don't have a face I am a robot hologram sorry for late reveal

    • @Ro-Ghost
      @Ro-Ghost 5 місяців тому

      Why does he need to do a fave reveal?

  • @MTVFlexx
    @MTVFlexx 5 місяців тому +2

    Japanese killers in this game are the worst campers & resentful players

  • @tschuwack_nr3577
    @tschuwack_nr3577 5 місяців тому +3

    I like the japanese rules....Shows what i try to expain to ppl..Tunnel or Camp is Not needed to win vs a good swf..

    • @FoxExcess
      @FoxExcess 5 місяців тому

      No one said it was needed, it just makes the win faster. It's common sense to go after the person who's dead on hook for example than to allow them to go complete a gen.

  • @ahntaea
    @ahntaea 5 місяців тому +4

    holy crap that interaction at 42:30 was some of the craziest gameplay i've ever seen

  • @skarlaxion7524
    @skarlaxion7524 5 місяців тому +2

    I wish they had the same ~20 ping at least, because there were certainly moments of ping issue

  • @bloodykills9433
    @bloodykills9433 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi Hens i am a German Blight main who understood that the hugtech is basically 70% show bump logic is as u saw it extremely strong
    Aber cool das du solche showcases überhaupt machst

  • @guest-cd7md
    @guest-cd7md 3 місяці тому +1

    i find it funny how its always Japan vs whole ass continents

  • @NanoScream
    @NanoScream 5 місяців тому +2

    It's kind of itching the back of my mind, why is Huntress and Cenobite banned from use? I'm curious to know what the reasons are for those two killers. Unknown is new so I can understand that one if it's for that reason.

  • @TheAceAPlus
    @TheAceAPlus 4 місяці тому +1

    Japan doesn't play a lot of video games, it's not a super culture like it is is the West and Europe. This is impressive considering that.

  • @LongLiveG
    @LongLiveG 5 місяців тому +2

    Self-care proving why it's the best perk 😂

  • @Wetto_XO
    @Wetto_XO 5 місяців тому +2

    I don't usually watch comp games, I just watched the 2 Legion games and was very very interesting I just can't wait to watch the whole thing!

  • @boxcar_s8132
    @boxcar_s8132 5 місяців тому +2

    I wonder if that Legion match with Thanatophobia woulda gone the same on a different map
    Seeing Self-Care actually being used in a good way is surprising

  • @caseystradley4660
    @caseystradley4660 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s funny to find out I play like an asian survivor lol

  • @Unknowniswhatiam
    @Unknowniswhatiam 3 місяці тому +1

    Their killers are scary if they can think that far ahead. Japan’s game sense is interesting.

  • @loveu9460
    @loveu9460 5 місяців тому +1

    Acechinさんに勝つには個人で強いっていうよりチームで強くないと勝つのは困難

  • @RenTheDragon1975
    @RenTheDragon1975 5 місяців тому +2

    As a Selfish Care with Bot Know Gamer that only self heals when appropriate .... it's nice to see the combo used in a comp play setting..... show casing that self care is not a throwing perk if used correctly.

  • @asrieldreemurr1918
    @asrieldreemurr1918 5 місяців тому +4

    It’s so cool seeing one meta vrs another

  • @necrolicious
    @necrolicious 5 місяців тому +6

    it's unbelievable that one addon made a professional competitive team look like first time players. The sad part is the FORCED ruin value because it's against the rules to cleanse it.

    • @jamesbohm3690
      @jamesbohm3690 5 місяців тому +2

      I think they 4 out there easily if not for the forced ruin. It might be an OK rule vs Trapper or something but vs Legion its beyond stupid

    • @FrostOblivion
      @FrostOblivion 5 місяців тому

      ​@@jamesbohm3690 In that situation ruin is hardly even an issue. Yes its more consistent but adding almost 20 seconds to the gen with thanatophobia is what was killing them. Mix that with some very strong pain res hits and you have a 5 minute gen in no time. Even if it was only surge instead it still would have been strong.
      It was mainly the loss of terror radius from addon paired with fearmonger on top of Meat Plant not being played very much in EU/US comp that was causing issues.
      As Hens said Dead Dawg is a EU/US Staple under our ruleset and Meat Plant is a Staple under the JP rule set. It isn't that much of a surprise that self care is meta when you take that and pair it with not limiting teams to 1 of any perk as well as mandating 1 gen before hexs. Being able to heal yourself would have been a strong counter to thanta which is probably why its a JP staple.

    • @Kap01
      @Kap01 5 місяців тому +1

      The Japanese team got a 3 man escape on same rules vs Legion, this is a matter of unfamiliarity with the map and specific Legion play style needed for it. Similar to how the Japanese team got 4k’d on DDS Wraith, which is extremely common in EU comp

  • @cristianflores2981
    @cristianflores2981 5 місяців тому +2

    God otz being delayed is fucking with my mind

  • @6atinn
    @6atinn 5 місяців тому +2

    bro this is freaking insane tht first match the Japanese team tht was actually insane and it’s coming from a top 509 2k player lol

  • @missed_nightmares
    @missed_nightmares 5 місяців тому +2

    I saw the commentary video for the second game and the west team said they almost never play the game and they were screaming at eachother

  • @stephenbrown4633
    @stephenbrown4633 5 місяців тому +2

    The Gideon legion match was beautiful

  • @AosorarisuUnedited
    @AosorarisuUnedited 5 місяців тому +3

    That was really fun to see, I love that it's a whole different mindset.

  • @HighPriestessUk
    @HighPriestessUk 5 місяців тому +1

    It would be nice for you guys to find a way to keep the killers view on permanently!
    I’d of loved to see both POV’s in some chases 😢

  • @VisceralForce
    @VisceralForce 5 місяців тому +1

    This was a perfect showcase of what the new blight will look like, much stronger but less fun.

  • @DrIronbuddah
    @DrIronbuddah 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm curious if that DMS was intentional to make him patrol the gen while Nea worked on the other one and they got to reset.

  • @poomslayer2571
    @poomslayer2571 5 місяців тому +1

    I’ll be honest there is not much difference other than some perks. Tunnelling and camping is just as common in japan in pubs as everywhere else, i hate the people treating players differently based on where they are from. Also the blight did hug tech a few times you just didn’t notice. Anyways those were great games hoping to see more comp in the future

  • @HandsomeP3t3
    @HandsomeP3t3 5 місяців тому +2

    Ich habe fast 4 min gebraucht um zu merken das otz dabei ist. Hahaha top Video wirklich super interessant:)