@@Novashi If you're talking about Hens then you have to understand that they're playing a challenge and has to get results. If they play nice all game then they won't get accurate results. They need to play as hard as they can. If you need to be nasty and tunnel at 5 gens when survivors are making it possible, you do it. However, if you play like that all the time just coz it's easy then that's a different story.
@@pepethefrog6809 I think Novashi was more so making the point that it’s “Disgusting” that Hens had the luxury of tunneling and slugging because Nurse is so terribly balanced, not that Hens was playing unfairly or toxicly.
@@thesavagegummybear7341 “We have also decided to remove Traps for trapper, we hope this will make for a more balanced and healthy experience for both survivors and killers.”
@@Summon-Inc clearly nerfing the wrong killer, pig should get nerfed so her m1 causes survivors to go through 5 stages before getting down. And also make her movement speed slower than survivors
Dude it was insane, I watched it and I was crying, I've never seen something so utterly out of this world, they should get Oscars and money and everything oh my god it was insane
Enjoyed every single minute of this, thanks man. Trapper still needs some buffs, I thought of doing a second type of trap, dynamite. Why dynamite? Why not? Lorewise Trapper has killed all his workers in the mines with the help of dynamite, so it would make sense for him to have it in game. Perhaps it could do some form of gen thing, imagine planting dynamites into generators, he would be like Jill with her perk.
some kinda way to trap a gen maybe, similar to dragon's grip - if they use the generator in 30 seconds after he traps it, it'll set off the dynamite for 1 health state if healthy and reduces progress by 10% or something, with a loud noise notification could be useful to force survivors to move into a more trapped area since that gen is effectively blocked, especially if there is some kinda visible but subtle sign it's trapped
A good nurse nerf that doesn't gut her playstle would be to muffle her ability to hear noises. She already has a bag over her head so it makes sense in lore
I wish I played this game more, I literally owned this game since 2016, forgot what it was, played it on xbox through gamepass, and now I wish I could've spent that time to play the game when it was new and experience everything.
A year late but I believe the reason the Dwight played how he did in the RPD match is most likely because they had a tome challenge to get multiple stuns, more specifically to get multiple stuns in a single match. I do the same thing when I have that tome challenge because more often than not if you don't play like an absolute loony toon your not going to get stuns on killers, let alone multiple stuns within the same match.
The devs are so slow when it comes to balancing things around, I don't think I ever saw a game in which the devs took so long to fix balance issues. They could literally just do something simple like making all the traps armed at the beginning of the game, and that would make Trapper players happier without making him op. And to Nurse, they could set the second blink to have a certain minimum distance on activation, in that way they would introduce some more counter-play to her as players can't use the second blink to close distance if the survivor is close to them. That way they'll either fatigue and wait for the first blink again to close the distance, either have a mini normal chase. The second blink would become something situational
@@wonsterchan They are merely in a different time space than us. Time for them must move slower than it does for us. They will nerf nurse and buff trapper VERY soon and for us that is in 10 years.
I know this is an old vid but like imagine playing against hens as nurse which must be a nightmare and then immediately getting whooped by odz as trapper with all the best add ons
No its because at last the claudette literally Dc just to force her friend to get the hatch which wasnt fair at all, nothing you can do there it was clearly a win by hens so they figured its only fair to count a 4k by the way if he counted that as 3k a full perk trapper would have tied with a perkless nurse lol
Nurse should definitely get a rework over the course of like 3 ptbs and tests. They should increase the blink stun fatigue duration to a way more punishing time and they should consider nerfing the distance of a blink by a huge ammount and buffing her base movement speed. This way she’d be funner to play as an M1 killer but also interesting to play around loops but not flying around the map catching up to a sprint bursted survivor
What if Nurse had blink tokens (like 4) that refills every time she hooks someone ? If it is too hard a nerf, we could bring her to normal killer speed
Nurse is actually slower than most killers. And the blink tokens is a heavy nerf because then she’d basically just be a very slow m1 killer. Like a slow trapper.
Ya, nurse taking a nap on those perks and addons while trapper is sweating hardcore with full build. They are .1 avg kills diff so it seems pretty fair on that stat sheet. I suppose pig should be nerfed. She is OVERPOWERED. I mean the graph says she is slayin those booping thots.(this is a joke)
Of course we should keep in mind otz had 3 gate escapes while you only had one. Someone getting hatch should probably not count as heavily as a survivor win
I mean SupaAlf one of the most well known nurse mains recently went on a 500+ win streak. I wish I could play 500+ games in a row on any other game and win every time. I would be rank 1 in Overwatch instead of gold. I would be a predator in Apex legends. I would actually be funny in Vrchat or real life ☹.
the thing is most survivors just aren’t really that good against nurse. and hens is a great one so it would be more accurate if he had to go against more competent players every game
Its okay for some killers to be stronger than others but Nurse is too strong, and blights add ons make him too strong. and mdr makes spirit too strong. (as a casual player)
Why does everyone (killer mains) say that RPD is a bad map? Is it because there's things for the survivors to actually do compared to the wide arching open dead spaces in macmillan and that stupid cornfield one?
I actually pretty both roles! I think I said that it's a bad nurse for the character I play. The reason why the map is sorry unpopular is that most people don't like indoors in general and it does not feel like a good dbd map. It's a 1 to 1 port from RE
Slugging will still be possible. For example, this scenario would have played out exactly the same with basekit unbreakable. It takes 45 seconds for you to pick yourself up. People who slug in the correct, efficient way will be unaffected by basekit unbreakable.
Would you be in favor of certain perks having different effects on different killers such as decisive on nurse, blight, spirit being 5 seconds and on other killers being 3?
It's way easier to just nerf Nurse and buff Trapper. In fact, it's so easy that only by removing 1 blink charge from Nurse you're pretty much almost done because people will need to run 2 specific addons to even play as an actual non-addon Nurse. Of course better things can be done to her to make it more smooth, it's just an example.
@futile I would rather some minor changes that can be made sooner were put in the game while waiting for major changes that may take a long time to actually be implemented.
i think it would be better if those killers were brought to the level of all the others. It would be a LOT of unnecessary work to accommodate every single perk and all future perks for just a small handful of killers
The way people are making edits about this dude like it’s some fictional show, when these are real life events. The show itself shouldn’t have even been made, considering how none of the families wanted anything to do with it. There’s just some boundaries you shouldn’t cross. It’s actually insane how that’s not common sense apparently.
Nurse: misses a hit, gets stunned, gets pallet teched, gets dead harded....still gets the down within 15 seconds
omg it's my favourite actor
She does what every other killers cannot. Say fuck you to 70% of the game mechanics. LMAO
@@pepethefrog6809 and this dude both tunneled and slugged on nurse. so disgusting
@@Novashi If you're talking about Hens then you have to understand that they're playing a challenge and has to get results. If they play nice all game then they won't get accurate results. They need to play as hard as they can. If you need to be nasty and tunnel at 5 gens when survivors are making it possible, you do it. However, if you play like that all the time just coz it's easy then that's a different story.
@@pepethefrog6809 I think Novashi was more so making the point that it’s “Disgusting” that Hens had the luxury of tunneling and slugging because Nurse is so terribly balanced, not that Hens was playing unfairly or toxicly.
Only Otzdarva would do this to himself…and that’s why we love him.
do what to himself? he just played one of his mains and tried to win
@@godlywalrus2694 trapper against nurse? Really bro, that’s a tough challenge.
@@BurdofSin Yeah exactly it's like comparing Model 1887 pre patch in MW2 to the H10 shotguns from BO1 it's not even fair.
@@Flyingeagle4998 200+ people agrees with him, so why shouldn't he write this comm then? Sounds pretty dumb, dude
@@Flyingeagle4998 the world doesn't revolved around you
Otz playing trapper is what got me into him
Same
I think he's apologised for that before
Wow, so do you like trapper or not?
@@swift-pawedteif386 love him actually he’s a lot of fun to play.
you into trapper? 😳
Clearly, the data from these matches indicate that the Trapper is too strong and needs nerfing.
Agreed, those trap things seem broken. Let’s remove the Trapper’s Traps so he can only reset the initial traps that the game spawns
@@somebodyalive6131 Agreed, along side that, we need to remove the ability to down people with his weapon and traps.
“We have now made padded jaws base kit to bring a more fair and balanced experience to trapper.”
@@thesavagegummybear7341 “We have also decided to remove Traps for trapper, we hope this will make for a more balanced and healthy experience for both survivors and killers.”
@@Summon-Inc clearly nerfing the wrong killer, pig should get nerfed so her m1 causes survivors to go through 5 stages before getting down. And also make her movement speed slower than survivors
Gotta say, you put this together really well. Enjoyed every minute of it. And kudos on getting it out literally next day!!
So cool seeing another of my favorite DBD streamers/uploaders comment on another's channel. Love all y'all.
Otz cheering for you at the end is so wholesome
Those survivors in the last game wanted that 4k dollar prize
They probably thought the same thing about nurse
@@Petard95 Except the nurse wanted to win via skill. ☠️
they do be doing their objective
@@KURRDA dcing is my favorite objective
@@fart63 mine too
4:31 "the bastard has hope" loves rent free in my head
18:19 Otz the only one playing a challenge and cheers up his opponent
love him
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object
The immovable object being that trap Otz had to keep stepping on.
18:19 Otz jumpscare
Damn the editing in this video is insanely good, this was really enjoyable to watch! Thanks for all the hard work💙
Dude it was insane, I watched it and I was crying, I've never seen something so utterly out of this world, they should get Oscars and money and everything oh my god it was insane
There's something so satisfying about watching nurse game play. A random video on yt of nurse on the game is what got me into dbd
Enjoyed every single minute of this, thanks man. Trapper still needs some buffs, I thought of doing a second type of trap, dynamite. Why dynamite? Why not? Lorewise Trapper has killed all his workers in the mines with the help of dynamite, so it would make sense for him to have it in game. Perhaps it could do some form of gen thing, imagine planting dynamites into generators, he would be like Jill with her perk.
Smoke screen that causes blindness to the survivors I agree that he needs another ability besides traps just like clown does
some kinda way to trap a gen maybe, similar to dragon's grip - if they use the generator in 30 seconds after he traps it, it'll set off the dynamite for 1 health state if healthy and reduces progress by 10% or something, with a loud noise notification
could be useful to force survivors to move into a more trapped area since that gen is effectively blocked, especially if there is some kinda visible but subtle sign it's trapped
Will you be uploading a video showing all 10 of your Nurse matches?
I mean what is the point? You can watch his stream unedited
so hens can secure the bag
he gotta get that ad rev
a trapper with best build in the game for him and best addons is "comparable" to default nurse without addons and perks, who would have thought..
you should def do bubba vs billy, both insta-down chainsaws but have vastly different playstyles
Otz has a video of this topic, top tier Bubba vs top tier billy
I would say I'm surprised Nurse is OP, but we all know it.
Very entertaining video!
Can u share the website you used to count your blinks and hours with each killer?
commenting so I can get the link
liking the comments so I can get the link
Commenting for that link
dbd.tricky.lol/
Commenting because everyone else is doing it
That Laurie really showed why 99ing SB is so strong, one of the few things that can even mess with a good nurse.
Ah yes, S-Tier killer “The Nurse” Vs Terrible-Tier Killer “The Trapper.”
Yea, this is bound to be a fair fight.
Trapper is like chess, you manipulate the enemy inti your trap
I love both of you
probably mercy?
A good nurse nerf that doesn't gut her playstle would be to muffle her ability to hear noises. She already has a bag over her head so it makes sense in lore
She feels your soul and your breath tho
I agree, Nurse players should have their screens turned black and audio cut when playing her that’s a fair nerf
@@KURRDA *Audio muffled* Wearing a bag will muffle sound but it can still goes through.
that ormond game was so fun to watch
where do you check your blink attacks?
Great video, love the editing!
The nurses weapon looks like a green jelly hacksaw with pills stuck into it
Loved seeing this live and loved the video
I still think nurse’s cooldown is just a bit too fast… I feel like it doesn’t make sense for it to start coming back until after the stun
I wish I played this game more, I literally owned this game since 2016, forgot what it was, played it on xbox through gamepass, and now I wish I could've spent that time to play the game when it was new and experience everything.
I loved this. Wp both of you!
I love the power gap between these 2 killers so glad they don’t just nerf nurse :)
This is good bait
I agree they should nerf the pig.
Niiiice, they were even, I was hoping Trapper didn`t lose
love the commentary
What a fun collab!
Where can I see my DBD stats like that? Please and thanks
How has otz not embraced plague as his main yet?
from this experiment, im sure the next patch Hag will get nerfed.
Very fun to watch, nice job
A year late but I believe the reason the Dwight played how he did in the RPD match is most likely because they had a tome challenge to get multiple stuns, more specifically to get multiple stuns in a single match. I do the same thing when I have that tome challenge because more often than not if you don't play like an absolute loony toon your not going to get stuns on killers, let alone multiple stuns within the same match.
hens and otz is the best combo ever
The devs are so slow when it comes to balancing things around, I don't think I ever saw a game in which the devs took so long to fix balance issues. They could literally just do something simple like making all the traps armed at the beginning of the game, and that would make Trapper players happier without making him op.
And to Nurse, they could set the second blink to have a certain minimum distance on activation, in that way they would introduce some more counter-play to her as players can't use the second blink to close distance if the survivor is close to them. That way they'll either fatigue and wait for the first blink again to close the distance, either have a mini normal chase. The second blink would become something situational
Gotta love that Ace on Otz's Midwich game with the broken ctrl button. LMAO Got trapped like a rat, nice of him not to camp that.
Nurse will soon be nerfed to damnation.
yea only taking them like 6 years
@@wonsterchan They are merely in a different time space than us. Time for them must move slower than it does for us. They will nerf nurse and buff trapper VERY soon and for us that is in 10 years.
Better nerf pig lmao
Kinda crazy how a packed low-tier killer can be on par with an underprepped god-tier killer
Oh ya, Trapper can be trying his butt off and that makes him equal to Nurse taking a nap.
The tittle be like : Terminator with a machine gun vs John Wick with a BANANA
Why does he sound like how Trapper would talk
Now that 2v8 is out you can play as nurse while he plays trapper and see who gets the most kills
I only really play DBD or watch DBD content from the killer perspective, when I see a nurse though I immediately route for the survivors
What I have been able to conclude from these matches is that pig needs a nerf
not gonna lie, hens is the best nurse i have ever seen
I know this is an old vid but like imagine playing against hens as nurse which must be a nightmare and then immediately getting whooped by odz as trapper with all the best add ons
Wouldn't your average kills after game 2 be 3.50??
I was thinking the same thing! 3k first game due to hatch escape and 4k second game should have resulted in a 3.5 average.
They hadn’t clarified whether hatch escape counted as a 4k or a 3k yet. They do that later in the stream.
Lets see a rematch!!!!! The new nurse and trapper buff/nerfs
Very cool video. Btw why is your avg Kills for the first match was 4 if 1 survivor have escaped?
Hey, they didn’t clarify with each other if hatch still counted as a 4k until after they had finished. It was just a misunderstanding.
No its because at last the claudette literally Dc just to force her friend to get the hatch which wasnt fair at all, nothing you can do there it was clearly a win by hens so they figured its only fair to count a 4k by the way if he counted that as 3k a full perk trapper would have tied with a perkless nurse lol
@@madaragaming1273 ? They asked why the kills for the FIRST match was 4, not the last one.
@@zw8456 oh shit i missread my bad
had a swf to the same to me they offered hatch at main and went opposite side of the map while getting chased and dced so other person could get hatch
Cookie Monster narrating this video
🤯
i think nurses blink shouldn’t recharge while she’s fatigued, would this be an okay nerf?
Nurse should definitely get a rework over the course of like 3 ptbs and tests. They should increase the blink stun fatigue duration to a way more punishing time and they should consider nerfing the distance of a blink by a huge ammount and buffing her base movement speed. This way she’d be funner to play as an M1 killer but also interesting to play around loops but not flying around the map catching up to a sprint bursted survivor
I think you are the best player in this entire game.
What if Nurse had blink tokens (like 4) that refills every time she hooks someone ?
If it is too hard a nerf, we could bring her to normal killer speed
Nurse is actually slower than most killers. And the blink tokens is a heavy nerf because then she’d basically just be a very slow m1 killer. Like a slow trapper.
How did u look at ur stats
He counted
@@NoNamedTerror ok
Only a 0.1 avg kill difference, no wonder Devs can't understand sht.
Ya, nurse taking a nap on those perks and addons while trapper is sweating hardcore with full build. They are .1 avg kills diff so it seems pretty fair on that stat sheet. I suppose pig should be nerfed. She is OVERPOWERED. I mean the graph says she is slayin those booping thots.(this is a joke)
good stuff 👍
Strongest killer on the game vs a fart box
baller
Of course we should keep in mind otz had 3 gate escapes while you only had one. Someone getting hatch should probably not count as heavily as a survivor win
Nurse needs at least 15 seconds to recover per charge. 5 seconds per charge is too OP. You can have her at 25% speed and she's still gonna slap.
Nurse needs a redesign man. I'm not a pro or anything but it seems like there is no counterplay to a good nurse chasing you.
I mean SupaAlf one of the most well known nurse mains recently went on a 500+ win streak. I wish I could play 500+ games in a row on any other game and win every time. I would be rank 1 in Overwatch instead of gold. I would be a predator in Apex legends. I would actually be funny in Vrchat or real life ☹.
What was that cinematic from the beginning from?
I think from Dbd mobile, could be wrong tho
It’s the cinematic trailer for dbd mobile season 5
''actual ds is still good''
actual ds: 1:55
Lerys - urse's hardest map: still gets a 4k 😐
you should have shown the bartending scene in game2
the thing is most survivors just aren’t really that good against nurse. and hens is a great one so it would be more accurate if he had to go against more competent players every game
Great video bro ❤️
I taught otz mained plague
He mained trapper before plague. It was his signature killer for a long time and recently started playing more plague as trapper is 💩.
@@alfianna2578 Ah i see he is insane at plague also
How can you see the amount of blink attacks you’ve hit on your account? A website I assume
dbd leaderboards theres multiple websites for it but it only works if your on steam
I really cannot understand why they have not reworked Trapper. Went to all that bother to screw over Billy and Trapper is just ... languishing.
Where is that beginning cutscene from
Its okay for some killers to be stronger than others but Nurse is too strong, and blights add ons make him too strong. and mdr makes spirit too strong. (as a casual player)
Why does everyone (killer mains) say that RPD is a bad map? Is it because there's things for the survivors to actually do compared to the wide arching open dead spaces in macmillan and that stupid cornfield one?
I actually pretty both roles! I think I said that it's a bad nurse for the character I play. The reason why the map is sorry unpopular is that most people don't like indoors in general and it does not feel like a good dbd map. It's a 1 to 1 port from RE
How do you see your killer playtime stats?
omg that ending lol
14:50 What do you in the future when slugging is not possible anymore cause every survivor will have unbreakable base kit?
Slugging will still be possible. For example, this scenario would have played out exactly the same with basekit unbreakable.
It takes 45 seconds for you to pick yourself up.
People who slug in the correct, efficient way will be unaffected by basekit unbreakable.
@@AveryHyena so i have to count the seconds. I cant leave the survivor cause i dont know how long a chase will go. I have to hook them
@@Schacal6666 So literally the same as usual.
How do you see your killer stats?
at 1:04 he says he only got a 3k last game but his average kills is 4.0?
What is the website shown at the start of the vid?
Just change trapper so he can set traps instant and not waste 3 seconds while survivors can run away.
This could make him fun again.
Redo this challenge but with the best build for nurse and see how fast you can get your 10 games done! lol
Lol the dc tech ftw! -_-
Would you be in favor of certain perks having different effects on different killers such as decisive on nurse, blight, spirit being 5 seconds and on other killers being 3?
It's way easier to just nerf Nurse and buff Trapper. In fact, it's so easy that only by removing 1 blink charge from Nurse you're pretty much almost done because people will need to run 2 specific addons to even play as an actual non-addon Nurse. Of course better things can be done to her to make it more smooth, it's just an example.
that would open a whoooole new can of worms, and behavior can barelly keep up as is xD
@futile I would rather some minor changes that can be made sooner were put in the game while waiting for major changes that may take a long time to actually be implemented.
i think it would be better if those killers were brought to the level of all the others. It would be a LOT of unnecessary work to accommodate every single perk and all future perks for just a small handful of killers
@@lautarozeiter1816 nurse would be an awful killer with one blink
hens didnt count his first game as a 3k, just saying, technically he had one less kill.
The way people are making edits about this dude like it’s some fictional show, when these are real life events. The show itself shouldn’t have even been made, considering how none of the families wanted anything to do with it. There’s just some boundaries you shouldn’t cross. It’s actually insane how that’s not common sense apparently.
please do another one
Oh mam
Wow, nurse gets another 4k, very interesting.
Did you swing twice at 13:35? 🤔 I could’ve swore I heard you hit the rock?
No he blinked twice, swung once.
11:05 you can do this hit on console, nurse on pc it's too cheating