Fitted my new fronts today- tried the LR recommended way first on the nearside- 2 hrs later I realised Simon’s bodge way was not only quicker but ensured a better fit; so I tried it on the offside :took less than 45 mins- no need to remove the wheels for either operation
The one thing I have noted in your videos is that the clips often get broken as the panel is removed - I think, therefore, that JLR should include a set of replacement clips with every part that requires the removal of a panel. There is nothing worse that, half way through a job, you realise that you have to order a set of clips to complete the job. I am actually quite happy that JLR have used these polymer parts - because if they get damaged you just get a new one and clip it on without having the car to go into the body-shop.
Totally agree - they have in this instruction at least given you some warning ! but having said that why not just supply the clips with the mudflap kit !
Really helpful video - thanks. It has convinced me beyond doubt that I will get a professional to fit the mudflaps to my Defender, rather than deploying my hopeless DIY skills 👍🏻🥴
Simon, Your shortcut video was what I chose to do the job on my 110. It was nice not having to pull the body panels and not deal with the problem of broken clips. But it was a bit difficult to get the nuts started on the studs. A bit fiddly for sure. But saved a bunch of money as opposed to having JLR shop do the job. And yes I also used your tutorial to install the rear set as well. Thanks for all the content you create on the Defender
Great idea, now people can decide which method they want to use, or perhaps, better still, take the best bits from both methods and use what they feel comfortable with.
Yes for those keen enough to watch both videos they should have a good idea. As you say its probably worth doing the wheel arch liner pull back from the "official" way and if possible try not to remove the lower panel with the breaking clips.
I found the studs on the rears to be far too long , meaning that a regular hex socket was not long enough to fully tighten the nuts down, the fix is either to use more washers or cut the studs down beforehand by about 5 mm. Im fitting the fronts this weekend so have already got some stainless washers at the ready.
Hi 👋interesting but fitting the mud flaps is little bit tricky job, and other problems is the plastic clips when I upgrade my Range Rover side vent I broke it plastic clips and I have to a weak to get new clips from Land Rover. Thanks 🙏 🙏
You will have to give Tyler Orange gloves to match "Edd Childs - Wheeler Dealers " , thinking about now , perhaps get Edd to work for you too . Just think what Edd could do for your prototype fittings for Land Rover ? . But Tyler needs Orange Gloves . Kindest Regards
The clips should be a sacrificial part, and for the LOVE OF GOD, why don't they use a common set of clips rather than a different clip for every bloody panel!! ;-)
Could you use double sided tape on the side skirt trim instead of drilling? I’m happy to drill holes in the plastic under the sill but not in the lovely gloss black painted side skirt
Hi Ken - the design of these is not good - the problem with the glue/tape fixing will be sticking to the mudflap - I think they are made from PP ( Polypropylene ) and this is a very very difficult plastic to get anything to stick to.
The more I watch this, the more I think Land Rover intended this to be fitted by one of their "technicians" and even then they'll probably make a hash of fitting the first couple. As a mud flap they look pretty hopeless and not advised for any off-roading. The wheel arch liner looks the sort of material they used to fit as a boot "carpet". Looks very likely to split and "dissolve" away leaving the chassis rails ready to receive mud and copious amounts of water. Is this some type of plastic material that looks more durable than what we can see in your video? Are the chassis rails aluminium, because if that's steel then they'll rust as well as the old model. Nice video though, I see your still working off the floor!
Had LR fit mudflaps fitted on mine; they also broke the clips - but didn't replace them so the lower panel between the drivers door and front mudflap is loose! Marvellous quality control, then add on bits of plastic wrapping left on here and there and electrical issues and I am not impressed with this vehicle.
No Brainer Alert! So, the official way ends up with broken fasteners, whereas the Simon way doesn't? Kudos to PowerfulUKLtd. :-D P.s. You had my OCD in overdrive again. Is soap and water not a thing with PowerfulUKLtd? I could never reattach a filthy cover to a vehicle. ;-)
It will very soon get filthy again, the car seems to have been designed to catch as much mud as possible. Build quality is heading back to the 1970’s again. The wheel arch liner should prevent the muck getting stored behind it or else what’s the point of the liner?
@@stevenmoran4060 I wonder if making these areas too weather-sealed will actually result in more rust formation, as area doesn't 'breathe' and/or dry out as much? :-D
I love the thought of no more mud hanging on the chassis every time when off road . Simon I watch your videos cringing at the way you tear the car apart , Have you still got full warrentee { Forgive poor spelling } from Land Rover ?
@@L663 We watch with baited breath , On the whole is the car behaving its self as the way it should do ? Just brought a few bits from your good self . Simon You are everything a True Brit could be . Great Bloke .
I would imagine it's because they are designed to take more punishment than the average car. Even Simon felt the need to go one step further with an extra bolt to make it more rigid.
@@L663 Could it be that the extra holes are for the Classic mudflaps which are bigger and therefore may need extra fixings? Is the same bracket shared between both mudflaps? Just a thought.
I think you should colour code your nuts and bolts per car......ORANGE - DEFENDER. YELLOW - FREELANDER 2. DOG SHITE BROWN - RANGE ROVER!!! ;-) Just a thought from sunny Essex.
Maybe the most complicated and awkwardly engineered mud flaps invent so far. What a job! Show them how to do it Steven...yours will be far more logical and not need taking half the trim off and breaking a set of plastic clips on the way. That mud trap looks dreadful...not a car to buy at ten years old! 😨😨🙂🙂
I love Land Rover, I even love the new Defender (for the record I love your videos too) but for the love of God every accessory you have fitted the process is ridiculous, take the door off to fit a RAI, pull body panels off to fit mud guards... Do Land Rover not know their customers? Are they not expecting Defender owners to add accessories... I get the feeling that their accessories range was a complete afterthought....
Hi - yes i know you have been following us for a while and comment regularly. I do like the new Defender also but i think they could have made it a little easier to work on / modify and fit accessories.
Fitted my new fronts today- tried the LR recommended way first on the nearside- 2 hrs later I realised Simon’s bodge way was not only quicker but ensured a better fit; so I tried it on the offside :took less than 45 mins- no need to remove the wheels for either operation
The one thing I have noted in your videos is that the clips often get broken as the panel is removed - I think, therefore, that JLR should include a set of replacement clips with every part that requires the removal of a panel. There is nothing worse that, half way through a job, you realise that you have to order a set of clips to complete the job. I am actually quite happy that JLR have used these polymer parts - because if they get damaged you just get a new one and clip it on without having the car to go into the body-shop.
Totally agree - they have in this instruction at least given you some warning ! but having said that why not just supply the clips with the mudflap kit !
Really helpful video - thanks. It has convinced me beyond doubt that I will get a professional to fit the mudflaps to my Defender, rather than deploying my hopeless DIY skills 👍🏻🥴
Yes - they made this way more complicated that it needs to be !
Simon,
Your shortcut video was what I chose to do the job on my 110.
It was nice not having to pull the body panels and not deal with the problem of broken clips.
But it was a bit difficult to get the nuts started on the studs.
A bit fiddly for sure. But saved a bunch of money as opposed to having JLR shop do the job.
And yes I also used your tutorial to install the rear set as well.
Thanks for all the content you create on the Defender
You are most welcome !
I like your original way, since it would be how most of us work on our Rovers. Love the little white and orange clips - glad they fit!
Great idea, now people can decide which method they want to use, or perhaps, better still, take the best bits from both methods and use what they feel comfortable with.
Yes for those keen enough to watch both videos they should have a good idea. As you say its probably worth doing the wheel arch liner pull back from the "official" way and if possible try not to remove the lower panel with the breaking clips.
Nice to see all them engineered holes just waiting for dirt, mud and salt to accumulate!!
No problem with salt as it’s all plastic now lol
I found the studs on the rears to be far too long , meaning that a regular hex socket was not long enough to fully tighten the nuts down, the fix is either to use more washers or cut the studs down beforehand by about 5 mm.
Im fitting the fronts this weekend so have already got some stainless washers at the ready.
Looks like you should pull the lower clips out then lift up to remove from the upper clips.
Don’t think you can as there was a locating peg.
Hi 👋interesting but fitting the mud flaps is little bit tricky job, and other problems is the plastic clips when I upgrade my Range Rover side vent I broke it plastic clips and I have to a weak to get new clips from Land Rover.
Thanks 🙏 🙏
You will have to give Tyler Orange gloves to match "Edd Childs - Wheeler Dealers " , thinking about now , perhaps get Edd to work for you too . Just think what Edd could do for your prototype fittings for Land Rover ? . But Tyler needs Orange Gloves . Kindest Regards
Great help guys 👍
The clips should be a sacrificial part, and for the LOVE OF GOD, why don't they use a common set of clips rather than a different clip for every bloody panel!! ;-)
Could you use double sided tape on the side skirt trim instead of drilling? I’m happy to drill holes in the plastic under the sill but not in the lovely gloss black painted side skirt
Hi Ken - the design of these is not good - the problem with the glue/tape fixing will be sticking to the mudflap - I think they are made from PP ( Polypropylene ) and this is a very very difficult plastic to get anything to stick to.
@@L663 bahhh foiled by the petrochemical industry again!
The more I watch this, the more I think Land Rover intended this to be fitted by one of their "technicians" and even then they'll probably make a hash of fitting the first couple. As a mud flap they look pretty hopeless and not advised for any off-roading. The wheel arch liner looks the sort of material they used to fit as a boot "carpet". Looks very likely to split and "dissolve" away leaving the chassis rails ready to receive mud and copious amounts of water. Is this some type of plastic material that looks more durable than what we can see in your video? Are the chassis rails aluminium, because if that's steel then they'll rust as well as the old model. Nice video though, I see your still working off the floor!
This is the same material used in all JLR vehicles. I think they have moved away from rigid plastic liners for better noise adsorption.
Those chassis rails are all aluminium or at least they are non magnetic - i did check them !
Had LR fit mudflaps fitted on mine; they also broke the clips - but didn't replace them so the lower panel between the drivers door and front mudflap is loose! Marvellous quality control, then add on bits of plastic wrapping left on here and there and electrical issues and I am not impressed with this vehicle.
Hi !! Good vídeos 👌 For 90 L663 is front too ok ?
Yes the front mudflap are the same on the 90 / 110 and 130
@@L663thanks
Hi could u do a video to fill up washer fluid for range rover? How much fluid should we fill up...
Until it’s full
No Brainer Alert! So, the official way ends up with broken fasteners, whereas the Simon way doesn't? Kudos to PowerfulUKLtd. :-D
P.s. You had my OCD in overdrive again. Is soap and water not a thing with PowerfulUKLtd? I could never reattach a filthy cover to a vehicle. ;-)
its a Defender....
It will very soon get filthy again, the car seems to have been designed to catch as much mud as possible. Build quality is heading back to the 1970’s again. The wheel arch liner should prevent the muck getting stored behind it or else what’s the point of the liner?
@@stevenmoran4060 I wonder if making these areas too weather-sealed will actually result in more rust formation, as area doesn't 'breathe' and/or dry out as much? :-D
Hi Simon is there a part number for the trim clips if possible please. Thanks Chris.
Hi Chris - the grey ones ( not complicated one ) is LR112137
The 2 part yellow and white one is DYC101420
@@L663 thanks very much !
The dealer near me wants to charge me 3 hour labor to install all four mudflaps is that normal?
@Ryan Anderson alright, I will attempt to negotiate. Thank you
I love the thought of no more mud hanging on the chassis every time when off road . Simon I watch your videos cringing at the way you tear the car apart , Have you still got full warrentee { Forgive poor spelling } from Land Rover ?
So far Land Rover are supporting me with warranty..... but i am not sure how much more i can push them...
@@L663 We watch with baited breath , On the whole is the car behaving its self as the way it should do ? Just brought a few bits from your good self . Simon You are everything a True Brit could be . Great Bloke .
Another great video........BUT every accessory seems so much hassle to fit to this car, as if made by a third party and is a compromise fit.
I would imagine it's because they are designed to take more punishment than the average car. Even Simon felt the need to go one step further with an extra bolt to make it more rigid.
Yes i was puzzled by the 4 holes in the metal strip and then only suggesting to use two of them.
@@L663 Could it be that the extra holes are for the Classic mudflaps which are bigger and therefore may need extra fixings? Is the same bracket shared between both mudflaps? Just a thought.
@@nigelsim18 These are the classics we fit and they seem the same in the top area... just the standard ones are shorter.
Dealership in Austin quoted me $1145 to install the small mudflaps 😑
I think you should colour code your nuts and bolts per car......ORANGE - DEFENDER. YELLOW - FREELANDER 2. DOG SHITE BROWN - RANGE ROVER!!! ;-) Just a thought from sunny Essex.
Maybe the most complicated and awkwardly engineered mud flaps invent so far. What a job! Show them how to do it Steven...yours will be far more logical and not need taking half the trim off and breaking a set of plastic clips on the way. That mud trap looks dreadful...not a car to buy at ten years old! 😨😨🙂🙂
Hmm!! i guess its like the modern day meccano set !! not unlike the Metal meccano set from yesteryaer
There's a lot of sh1te behind your panels already.
You think there'd be mitigation for that on an off-roader
Yes there is and i have not been one anything too crazy !
I love Land Rover, I even love the new Defender (for the record I love your videos too) but for the love of God every accessory you have fitted the process is ridiculous, take the door off to fit a RAI, pull body panels off to fit mud guards... Do Land Rover not know their customers? Are they not expecting Defender owners to add accessories... I get the feeling that their accessories range was a complete afterthought....
Hi - yes i know you have been following us for a while and comment regularly. I do like the new Defender also but i think they could have made it a little easier to work on / modify and fit accessories.