This is absolutely the best NLH hand reading videos I've ever seen, cannot thank you enough for how perfectly explained your hand-range funnel system I look forward to hearing more of your wisdom
You're the best poker coach I've seen by far. So many people showing ranges and none of them explained how to use them. I actually think you are way better than Jonathan Little as Jonathan just doesn't explain a lot.
Great information and so important to take a little time to process what was discussed as opposed to simply reacting. That “student” seemed more like a friend playing the role, maybe a reenactment of an actual student.
You are so good at explaining things and I have to add that, even if I am already applying some of the techniques you are describing, just hearing you confirm this is the right play, makes it so much better for me when I play. Happy to have discovered you online, your material is great, and thank you for your help!
I get everything except for the middle of the video when discussing opponents range and saying that they wouldn't have called $10 pre flop raise with A5 or A4. Why not? I would totally put that in someone's calling range in the cutoff.
As a sales and marketing professional, I kind of want to sign up to get some marketing coaching. I’m impressed with the marketing and sales route Alec has taken. Lol
Given the situation shown, with 2 players left to act behind AND a flush draw on the board, I don't know of many players that would try to trap with a set. Yeah, it's a possibility - but it's a very risky play, even for fish.
Great content and I like How the concept of the funnel. Using your affiliate marketing background to your advantage I see haha (but it's probably the best analogy I've come across for poker tbh. Trademark it!)
Great video with tons of great info. However, I'd love to have you go play some 1-2 in LA at say Commerce. As high as 90% of those players don't know where they are in relation to the button, they don't understand early vs late position, they don't understand sizing, and you may not believe this but I would say maybe 60%-70% are not even considering what hands their opponents have. They are looking at their cards and the board. That's it. I understand LA has a huge player pool, but putting more than a couple players at any low stakes game here on any range is like trying to solve that problem on the blackboard in Good Will Hunting. Ha! Great info for 2-5 and even some higher stakes 1-3 in So Cal.
I hear ya, can still weed out some hands. Like the 9-2 off suit, 8-3 offsuit hands. Also when one raises 4x or more and they call. Can reduce it a little. I've played at those levels and they call any Ace, any suited cards and any connector, connectors with 1-3 gaps, any broadway cards. Also the only hand they can put someone on is AK (seriously, that is the only hand bad players think a person who raises big has) So if you raise and an A or k hits, the continuation bet strategy advised will work. At commerce 4x raise at those stakes is nothing and I believe you have to raise 6-8x minimum to get information. And if they already put in a bet they get attacked to it, so a raise of 10x for them to fold a hand like 56 suited.
I absolutely love your videos and find them very helpful. However, this video might be your best ever. Given my learning style, seeing actual examples of how to use a range funnel is the most useful way of describing the process. I know it might seem like beating a dead horse, but I would dearly love to see more of how to put this to use. Fwiw, I paused the video and counted 11 hands the opponent could have that would beat me. The part I did not apply was "that he would also be betting for value". I think it might be useful to you to know where people missed an aspect of what you were trying to teach them (me).
Nice free video. The next one is not free. If you do or learn this narrowing of the opponent's possible hands, even at the beginner level, the more you play the better you'll get. Thanks.
Hey Alec-- Sometimes in your other videos you go through a third step where you think about all the better hands that we can have in our range that got there on the river. If we can have a lot of better hands in a given spot, then we can fold. When should we be thinking about this third step? thanks.
Great question. I think about that on the river. I look at 'where am I at in my range', and call with the better hands (also the hands which don't block my opponents bluffs) and fold the worse ones.
Great content! Thanks! Hope to see more of it! Just one thing: You could have mentioned:" keep in mind that opponent could slow play big hands " though.
Thats for sure is a m amazing now you learn how to donk bet almost pot with k7 on 237 flushdraw vs 4 live players when all can have 88991010 2233 A7 or a good draw.. I rest my case...
I believe you are so wrong ... players have become so tricky that they slowplay a set til river in position or flat preflop premiums... it is not as easy to put people on a range
Let me give you the ultimate Secret and that is to ESTABLISH A REPUTATION AND THEN MANIPULATE IT, it doesn't take long and I do this by showing most of my good hands, I never show bluffs and always tell them good fold and I do it with sincerity... I also do a lot of check raising and check calling people to the river, with monster hands. There are two things in poker that are extremely scary and frustrating and that's being checked raised, or re-raised and being called all the way to the river, without the best hand, when you clearly thought it was.... Now, once you've established a reputation at the table, you then BREAK IT, but, you're the only one who knows that it's being broken and that is the main secret to poker... Think about a time you've played with someone who was extremely tight and then think about if they started to play just the opposite.. You would be very confused to say the least and probably catch yourself folding hands you shouldn't, betting when you shouldn't, calling when you shouldn't, excetera....When you get good at this, you can control the whole table, every decision that they make, will be based around what they think, you're going to do and that is, the best possible scenario you can find yourself in.. The other thing is, don't be afraid to play any hand and play it like it was Aces, or like you flopped a set, get creative and find out the most information that you can, for the least amount possible.. When you first sit down and start to get creative and your check raising, calling, re-raising, whether you win or lose, you'll be establishing a reputation... Then you take that little reputation that you've just established over the course of 20 minutes and manipuate it...just say'n...
how can you remove a hand from hand range based on the fact he didnt raise and just called on the turn , could'nt he just slow play us with the bigger hand he just hit on the turn
Great video bro. I just have one question. What did you do in the past because there are plenty of people in your comments that don’t like you??? I think the videos are great. Everyone has something to say about your content but the only sure way to win at poker is to never play. Great video!!!!
How many of you guys lead out into the pre flop raiser? What do you do when he raises you to 120 after leading out for thirty five? If you check, he might only bet out for 35 and you get to see the turn for a smaller amount. Just curious what you think.
The difference you are going to notice in a small 1-3nl, 2-5nl game vs TV is- it's extremely common in the small games for 5 guys to call a $15 raise preflop... So what you need to keep in mind is where is the preflop raiser in position compared to you? If you flop the world and you are first to act and the original raiser is last, you might consider LEADING... BUT- I have to hit you up with the most annoying answer in poker- you really have to understand the feel of the players and the position... AND the style of poker in that poker room. (Northern California Poker rooms are insanely live compared to other places I've played) There is a lot of raise calling pre-, and if a lot of hands going to show down.
I’m not sure if a player would ever raise a two-pair. Many players take the philosophy of only raising with their nut hands, so they’ll likely just resign themselves to calling with two pair and seeing the showdown, or they’ll call because they hope you’ll bluff off your stack, in which case checking on the river will result in a bet.
Hur Play tighter than them and raise way higher preflop than u normally do to make money off of their trash when they miss. Do not slow play, u'll end up trapping urself.
Peter Parker This isn't just where u play. At limits with bigger pots, like 2/5, people fight for pots more because there's more to be won than in 1/2. That explains higher bluffing frequencies there.
why is it not possible for villain to have a set? is it not quite unusual someone would raise a flush draw into 3 opponents (including the preflop raiser)? seeing this as unlikely, and knowing everyone else had folded, does a set not become way more valuable and capable of slow play especially if you are seen as loose/a calling station. and why does the villain not have more 9 combos? i feel like thats an especially dangerous card. a loose player could definitely call a 2/3 pot bet with two overcards, one of them being a 9.
Started back playing $2/2 $300 max after a layoff during covid. My first two sessions went well but I went thru a few hours of being card dead and also felt like I was at a bad table. Do u recommend staying at bad tables in Hope's it will change or should I always move if I feel like I'm at a bad table full of nits? Also how do u define a bad table? (nits, all good players, aggressive players?) Thanks alot, Alec.
Hey Gianni, try downloading our free system in the description. If you're looking for that next level, join Alec's Academy or our Membership. LMK if I can help with anything.
Range and all makes sense, but tbh when you have a manice sitting in this spot at 0,01 0,02 micro stackes, this guy has at least two pair or trip jacks. Players in micros close to never bluff and play the weirdest shit, keep this in mind. I just lost 5 hands in 2 days where they call flop all ins with flush- and straightdraws.
Pocket 7’s would’ve flat called $10 to see a flop, and after seeing the BB aggressively bet $35. If call and let the BB make the price, I’ll make more out of him if I let him continue to bet every street then if I raise and appear strong
I’m surprised that you said you liked the flop lead. He is revealing his defined, capped range for the Very same reasons you stated. I don’t think the bet that is seeking protections from non heart overcards overcomes the fact that flush draws, straight draws as well as overcards containing a heart aren’t folding to a bet. The donk lead allows opponents in position to play their hands more easily. Understanding that his draws would likely check to take the free card (if checked through) and that since he just called from the bb and lead into the pre flop aggressor and the field that he highly likely flopped a pair No greater than a 7. He can easily be bluffed on straight or flush completing runouts as well as 2 overcards to top pair etc etc. Checking and check calling the flop bet keeps his range wider and less defined and if the pre flop aggressor doesn’t cbet and a field caller bets, he can also attack that stab with a cr with a high degree of success as well That turn card would have been ideal for a large bet for protection as well as value from the worse pairs and draws that may have stabbed the flop and called the check raise . I almost stopped watching the instructional vid when I heard you praise the Flop donk lead. I’m glad that I stayed because I enjoyed and agreed with the logic in the rest of the vid.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I was watching the vid thinking to myself “How can that lead be good?” He’s doing more damage defining his own range than anything he’s trying to accomplish by betting. He’s out of position multi way. Check your entire range there...
People dont always bluff, just because they have a missed draw. Sometimes they give up, if they dont think, bluffing is profitable, or they are risk averse. So while we want there to be missed draws, when we are considering to call with a bluff catcher, we also want an opponent, who will actually pull the trigger and do it. Its not like, we are printing money by calling in a spot like this, which the video kind of makes it sound like.
Alec. Was never a fan of your non instructional vids (sorry). But thought this video was helpful and come across as a good coach. I would be already very familiar with ranges and combos
That's a middling hand with showdown value so it's likely villain would check there with 2nd pair, even though he missed his flush. You want to shove on the river with a polarized range of value hands that hero might call with a worse hand (J10h for example) or bluff hands that hero might fold with a better hand (45h for example).
Dude loose cannon calls $10 with 73s And 32o And devide to call the flop not raise Seen this so many times. We keep assuming villain is thinking Of players behind him hes not hes loose cannon and lots of loose cannons will slow play 2 pair regardless of flush draws they dont give a ahit lol he could have 33, 22, 79, 88, 99, TT, JJ He couldve floated with A9o JTo since flop bet is so small relative to life value (they are not thinking bb they are thinking absolute value of the money) and when u check they bet. Im not complaining or whining but loose cannons are playing there own hand and they will not be thinking about what u have or whose in the pot or what positions they are in or anything. they will play any 2 suited or unsuited gappers and All of their Axo. Guy can hit J7o they will call. They will have 92s 93s J3s J2s, 72o because its 72 and its famous. They are not reading your hand 🖐. There just going purely by feel. I have no complaints about these players easy to play against just have to watch what they do in other hands they play and also how they play against you because the way they play against each player varies.
If two people call a hand every time, over time they'd each win 50% of the time. Minus the rake. Meaning, as players get better it's harder to win consistently.
Mick Malkemus The smaller pool of for-profit players are getting better, the larger pool of recreational players are not. If u don't believe it, go play on a Friday or Saturday night.
I get everything except for the middle of the video when discussing opponents range and saying that they wouldn't have called $10 pre flop raise with A5 or A4. Why not? I would totally put that in someone's calling range in the cutoff.
Mmmmm ok but he could easily have turned over Kh/Jh. When you call the $190 bet, you will be uncomfortable until the cards are shown. It’ll either be a “hooray” or a “fook me” moment. That’s poker
Had my soul crushed at my local casino with pocket kings OP in back to back sessions recently I fired big preflop flop turn river villain needed specifically 97 and t7 to river back door straights both played reasonably tight for a couple of hours before hand. Both times rivered me with the offsuit rags. Are they just idiots or is there something I’m missing here? should I be allowing t7o and 97o into calling half pot bets all the way into their ranges? I haven’t played since and it has totally tilted me to the max.
Frankly there’s a little more to it than that this is only two hands the reality is if people keep taking their rags against your pocket kings over the course of a long sample size you are going to be a winner so if they are calling your normal raise sizes with these garbage hands you’re still going to be a winner I am never mad when I see a player call my pre-flop raises with garbage hands even if I get felted I always have buy ins behind me and I nine times out of 10 I’m going to get my money back from that player or players like them however often times it is good increase your bet size perhaps going from 3X to 3.5 X or even 4X if needed but really if they are calling with those kind of hands how much does that change the cards that are going to fall are going to fall and again over the course of time pocket kings are going to crush 10 seven off and 97 off without any issue. If I was sentenced to some purgatory for 10 years where I am dealt pocket kings and my opponent is dealt 97 off suit over and over and over again I would leave purgatory a rich man.
Michael I have been upsizing bets recently since this channel suggested it...has definitely helped my game a lot. They just keep calling 10-20bb with top pair no kicker it’s freaking weird. But Just as a precaution pocket kings are going straight in the muck from now on those 2 sessions have scarred me for life. Haha
@@Michael-tn7qw This is a reason to have a very well padded bankroll,even over twice what is recommended for your stakes/game type at all times so the long run can be reached before you go broke. Many live players are recreational and buy in once a week with a significant portion of their paycheck and if they lose a couple of buy ins through no fault of their own,they get frustrated and play really bad afterwards or leave the game for some time. The moral of the story is to always have so many buy ins that no matter what happens,you can always come back tomorrow and it's water off a ducks back...
Yeah, what happens when you hero call and villian shows A9HH? are you assuming he would re-raise a hand like that pre-flop from the CO? I mean with a hand like that It was a beautiful flop, an even better turn card, and the J isn't really scaring villian when hero decides to check river. Maybe its just me but I don't call $10 pre flop with a junky marginal hand like K7 suited out of position. I'm either going to 3bet pre-flop and take it down there or I'm folding. I would never want to play K7 suited out of position in a multi-way pot. I mean its good to mix up your play but in spots like this you literally don't know where you're at with villian calling pre-flop raise, calling flop bet, calling turn bet, and then jamming river. Additionally, if hero is going to call pre-flop, bet flop, bet turn, he should almost always be jamming river to keep telling the story he's trying to sell.
this is such a marketing scheme to players who dont have a clue.. first off the donk lead is horrible. villian can have 88s thru AAs and yes he will flat the DONK lead with these hands. a7, 9x are also beating you, so how alec doesnt include these hands is comical. and before he tells the result, it was so obvious that the villian would be bluffing and his students hero call was mathematically correct, what great funneling lol. trash
Yes of many terrible coaches that cant best 0.02-0.05 cent zoom in stars Alex is one off The worst, terrible player almost donk negreanu donk hellmut level.
How in gods name can you take 20 minutes to deduce one bet while already knowing what he has for one bet. Youre not watching 6 other players, running your cards, then running all of his potential hands through a “range filter” in the 6 seconds youd have in real time. Come the hell on my guy…
Anyway you will lose a lot of money in the long run if you play this specific hand like that. calling a 5x open (!) from MP in the BB with K7s is burning money. even if you hit the flush you still go broke against the A high flush that all of the opponents at the table have in there range. And why the hell do you not notice that on the river you only have to be good a bit over 30% of the time?
@@MrVibeCheck41 Trust me it doesn't. The variance involved in poker is heavy. You can go on 10k upswings which is big no doubt, but you can also hit 6k downswings, etc. etc. Variance is brutal. I grinded 2/3 live 300 buy in for about 2-3 years. Overall i must of ended up break even in the long term. Rake adds up, tips add up. Variance burns a hole in your wallet. You go on tilt in any form then your really losing money end of story. Been there, done that. 8 weeks is laughable.
Alec is no charlatan he is trying to help people become better at the game. That's not what most pros do, most of them want fish to stay fish. Alec is a rarity in that he has a higher purpose beyond raking in pots. Raking in pots has only so much to offer.
Senna Rain maybe charlatan was harsh. I take that back - all round he seems like a decent bloke. But this “hand funnel” is not an invention. Everyone does this that isn’t terrible at poker. This video specifically, is charlatan-esque
@@Alex-yv4vr Alec isnt a charlatan lmao you must be a new fish to say something so dumb. You've probably been studying the game for like a month and think you're a pro, he would destroy you and take every cent you have. Maybe you should pay attention and learn something instead of worrying about what terms he did or didnt invent.
You've clearly not met the loose cannons in my game.
Watching this video this all makes sense, but when I'm at the table I'm like "uhhhhh....what now?"
I can relate 😅
Hahaha !! 😂 it’s really hard to follow at the table.
Practice practice practice.
🤣🤣🤣🤣factz
It’s like that sometimes….9 months later, do you still feel that way
This is absolutely the best NLH hand reading videos I've ever seen, cannot thank you enough for how perfectly explained your hand-range funnel system I look forward to hearing more of your wisdom
Awesome, glad it helped! GL to you!
You're the best poker coach I've seen by far. So many people showing ranges and none of them explained how to use them. I actually think you are way better than Jonathan Little as Jonathan just doesn't explain a lot.
Thanks for the support!
Great information and so important to take a little time to process what was discussed as opposed to simply reacting. That “student” seemed more like a friend playing the role, maybe a reenactment of an actual student.
Thanks for the support! Glad it helped.
You are so good at explaining things and I have to add that, even if I am already applying some of the techniques you are describing, just hearing you confirm this is the right play, makes it so much better for me when I play. Happy to have discovered you online, your material is great, and thank you for your help!
I get everything except for the middle of the video when discussing opponents range and saying that they wouldn't have called $10 pre flop raise with A5 or A4. Why not? I would totally put that in someone's calling range in the cutoff.
Excellent video. I've been struggling with this concept and your video helped immensely.
Great to hear!
As a sales and marketing professional, I kind of want to sign up to get some marketing coaching. I’m impressed with the marketing and sales route Alec has taken. Lol
People slow play and trap with sets all the time, esp. in low stakes
shhhh
Given the situation shown, with 2 players left to act behind AND a flush draw on the board, I don't know of many players that would try to trap with a set. Yeah, it's a possibility - but it's a very risky play, even for fish.
@@cornerstonehoneybees2525 sounds like you play online and not live.
A good, detailed walk through, thanks.
These kind of videos are very useful. Crushing the same level as your student was, but got difficulties to level up...
Thanks Toce!
That's the point..
Excellent video!! very helpful in organizing my poker thoughts and plays!
Thanks Corey!
this is amazing content, thanks man!
tomasdirocco Glad you enjoyed it!
Great content and I like How the concept of the funnel. Using your affiliate marketing background to your advantage I see haha (but it's probably the best analogy I've come across for poker tbh. Trademark it!)
Thanks Nikhil!
Great video with tons of great info. However, I'd love to have you go play some 1-2 in LA at say Commerce. As high as 90% of those players don't know where they are in relation to the button, they don't understand early vs late position, they don't understand sizing, and you may not believe this but I would say maybe 60%-70% are not even considering what hands their opponents have. They are looking at their cards and the board. That's it. I understand LA has a huge player pool, but putting more than a couple players at any low stakes game here on any range is like trying to solve that problem on the blackboard in Good Will Hunting. Ha! Great info for 2-5 and even some higher stakes 1-3 in So Cal.
I hear ya, can still weed out some hands. Like the 9-2 off suit, 8-3 offsuit hands. Also when one raises 4x or more and they call. Can reduce it a little. I've played at those levels and they call any Ace, any suited cards and any connector, connectors with 1-3 gaps, any broadway cards. Also the only hand they can put someone on is AK (seriously, that is the only hand bad players think a person who raises big has) So if you raise and an A or k hits, the continuation bet strategy advised will work. At commerce 4x raise at those stakes is nothing and I believe you have to raise 6-8x minimum to get information. And if they already put in a bet they get attacked to it, so a raise of 10x for them to fold a hand like 56 suited.
@@ronaldbarnes1746 That's sound advice man!
I absolutely love your videos and find them very helpful. However, this video might be your best ever. Given my learning style, seeing actual examples of how to use a range funnel is the most useful way of describing the process. I know it might seem like beating a dead horse, but I would dearly love to see more of how to put this to use.
Fwiw, I paused the video and counted 11 hands the opponent could have that would beat me. The part I did not apply was "that he would also be betting for value". I think it might be useful to you to know where people missed an aspect of what you were trying to teach them (me).
Just watched this video. VERY well done!
Thanks!
Nice free video. The next one is not free. If you do or learn this narrowing of the opponent's possible hands, even at the beginner level, the more you play the better you'll get. Thanks.
Hey Alec-- Sometimes in your other videos you go through a third step where you think about all the better hands that we can have in our range that got there on the river. If we can have a lot of better hands in a given spot, then we can fold. When should we be thinking about this third step? thanks.
Great question. I think about that on the river. I look at 'where am I at in my range', and call with the better hands (also the hands which don't block my opponents bluffs) and fold the worse ones.
Great video. A lot to think about in the 10 second time frame online.
Speed comes last. Focus on the process.
@@ConsciousPoker 😊
Awesome video... I'm ready to learn more
I think we should include aj with the ace of hearts because it’s a back door but flush draw
interesting range of hands to talk about in this scenario would be the 9x hearts range
you know you're a tight player when this feels like an absolute hero call. I would've folded 10/10
I would've read j9h for sure.
@@erikseidler793 yeah expected j10 :D
Great content! Thanks! Hope to see more of it! Just one thing: You could have mentioned:" keep in mind that opponent could slow play big hands " though.
He woulve reraised on a wet flop with big hand
Amazing content! Thanks so much!
0:46 Alec looks very interested
that's a beautiful sarcasm font :)
Amazing my game improved after watching this video
Awesome to hear! Thanks for the feedback.
Amazing fake review! Trash
Thats for sure is a m amazing now you learn how to donk bet almost pot with k7 on 237 flushdraw vs 4 live players when all can have 88991010 2233 A7 or a good draw.. I rest my case...
I believe you are so wrong ... players have become so tricky that they slowplay a set til river in position or flat preflop premiums... it is not as easy to put people on a range
Your explanations are great.
In every card room I've been to in Texas, 1-3 plays like 5-10 in Vegas. Your thoughts?
Everything's bigger in Texas.
I do something similar, but I call it "soul reading" and it's slightly less reliable
How to be good at poker in 8 weeks? Wellll just be good at poker. Thanks for the info.
Let me give you the ultimate Secret and that is to ESTABLISH A REPUTATION AND THEN MANIPULATE IT, it doesn't take long and I do this by showing most of my good hands, I never show bluffs and always tell them good fold and I do it with sincerity... I also do a lot of check raising and check calling people to the river, with monster hands.
There are two things in poker that are extremely scary and frustrating and that's being checked raised, or re-raised and being called all the way to the river, without the best hand, when you clearly thought it was....
Now, once you've established a reputation at the table, you then BREAK IT, but, you're the only one who knows that it's being broken and that is the main secret to poker...
Think about a time you've played with someone who was extremely tight and then think about if they started to play just the opposite.. You would be very confused to say the least and probably catch yourself folding hands you shouldn't, betting when you shouldn't, calling when you shouldn't, excetera....When you get good at this, you can control the whole table, every decision that they make, will be based around what they think, you're going to do and that is, the best possible scenario you can find yourself in.. The other thing is, don't be afraid to play any hand and play it like it was Aces, or like you flopped a set, get creative and find out the most information that you can, for the least amount possible..
When you first sit down and start to get creative and your check raising, calling, re-raising, whether you win or lose, you'll be establishing a reputation... Then you take that little reputation that you've just established over the course of 20 minutes and manipuate it...just say'n...
Thank you so much!
Great content alec we hope more of those videos in the future! Thnx 🙏🙏🙏
You got it!
Put your big chips up front
how can you remove a hand from hand range based on the fact he didnt raise and just called on the turn , could'nt he just slow play us with the bigger hand he just hit on the turn
I lost 10 pounds after watching this video and my hunger cravings are gone.
Man this single video taught me heaps... Thank you sir.
Great video bro. I just have one question. What did you do in the past because there are plenty of people in your comments that don’t like you??? I think the videos are great. Everyone has something to say about your content but the only sure way to win at poker is to never play. Great video!!!!
Steven White Huh? If you're a good poker player, you LOSE a lot of money by not playing at all.
@@theejayzeeable ok I understand. Have a great poker career bro.
Hey Alec, how is the new book doing and where can I get a copy.
Thanks Ron. It's coming out in May. I'll keep you posted!
How many of you guys lead out into the pre flop raiser? What do you do when he raises you to 120 after leading out for thirty five? If you check, he might only bet out for 35 and you get to see the turn for a smaller amount. Just curious what you think.
The difference you are going to notice in a small 1-3nl, 2-5nl game vs TV is- it's extremely common in the small games for 5 guys to call a $15 raise preflop... So what you need to keep in mind is where is the preflop raiser in position compared to you? If you flop the world and you are first to act and the original raiser is last, you might consider LEADING... BUT- I have to hit you up with the most annoying answer in poker- you really have to understand the feel of the players and the position... AND the style of poker in that poker room. (Northern California Poker rooms are insanely live compared to other places I've played) There is a lot of raise calling pre-, and if a lot of hands going to show down.
I’m not sure if a player would ever raise a two-pair. Many players take the philosophy of only raising with their nut hands, so they’ll likely just resign themselves to calling with two pair and seeing the showdown, or they’ll call because they hope you’ll bluff off your stack, in which case checking on the river will result in a bet.
FloobyBadoop You mean a set? Because which 2 pair on that board are usually gonna call a 5x raise preflop?
I'm at a table where people call or even 3 bet pre with 63o frequently. Do I fight fire with fire or do I tighten up to trap?
Hur Play tighter than them and raise way higher preflop than u normally do to make money off of their trash when they miss. Do not slow play, u'll end up trapping urself.
Can I please please play in this game. A moron could beat those ranges.
8 weeks is such a small sample size. How do you know if he is crushing?
Pls dont question the guys's will to sell his product, leave him alone and make your own, LMFAO!
Lol
Brian Christopher plays poker now?
i find it funny where i play, 1/2 is super tight, no1 bluffs while 2/5 games, everyone is bluffing :P
Peter Parker This isn't just where u play. At limits with bigger pots, like 2/5, people fight for pots more because there's more to be won than in 1/2. That explains higher bluffing frequencies there.
How about A7? Why would you take that out of a loose players range?
why is it not possible for villain to have a set? is it not quite unusual someone would raise a flush draw into 3 opponents (including the preflop raiser)? seeing this as unlikely, and knowing everyone else had folded, does a set not become way more valuable and capable of slow play especially if you are seen as loose/a calling station. and why does the villain not have more 9 combos? i feel like thats an especially dangerous card. a loose player could definitely call a 2/3 pot bet with two overcards, one of them being a 9.
i really appreciate the video btw im just not clear on these specific parts
3s, 2s, A9-98 and the odd jack are all hands i would be afraid of in that scenario. a lot more likely than some missed flush draws
and still knowing hes put on a draw makes middle pair a lot harder to call with
at 14:54 you forgot A7s although it's unlikely he would shove it
Started back playing $2/2 $300 max after a layoff during covid. My first two sessions went well but I went thru a few hours of being card dead and also felt like I was at a bad table. Do u recommend staying at bad tables in Hope's it will change or should I always move if I feel like I'm at a bad table full of nits? Also how do u define a bad table? (nits, all good players, aggressive players?) Thanks alot, Alec.
Always put yourself in the best situation possible. Table selection is a big part of that.
Just move, no reason to stay at a dead table sometime is nice to change it up even if just for the scenery
May be i miss it but why did you eliminate A7?
yes amazing you da man alex
Hey I need help with hand ranges like you helped the guy in the video I want to be a winning cash gamer please help me?
Hey Gianni, try downloading our free system in the description. If you're looking for that next level, join Alec's Academy or our Membership. LMK if I can help with anything.
Range and all makes sense, but tbh when you have a manice sitting in this spot at 0,01 0,02 micro stackes, this guy has at least two pair or trip jacks.
Players in micros close to never bluff and play the weirdest shit, keep this in mind.
I just lost 5 hands in 2 days where they call flop all ins with flush- and straightdraws.
Hey Alec, are you still offering coaching?
Yes, hit me up on Twitter or Instagram and we'll connect. Otherwise, email alec@consciouspoker.com. Look forward to helping!
@@ConsciousPoker Thank you!
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Pocket 7’s would’ve flat called $10 to see a flop, and after seeing the BB aggressively bet $35. If call and let the BB make the price, I’ll make more out of him if I let him continue to bet every street then if I raise and appear strong
he has 10s8s, QsJs, 10sJs, KsJs in his range at the river
I'd rather buy a George Forman grill..
Hello. I send you two question. Please rewiew this hands thanks.
assuming people do not raise the nuts is a huge mistake
What would I have done?? Fold pre flop because who TF plays K7S
idk if it's been addressed yet, but why is A7s out of the villain's range? i could see A7s calling ten bucks in CO.
Why was 8-8 and 10-10 removed from the range?
Attention everyone: we are gambeling it means we are not going to win 100% of the time. As long as I win more than I lose with good margin im happy
I’m surprised that you said you liked the flop lead. He is revealing his defined, capped range for the Very same reasons you stated. I don’t think the bet that is seeking protections from non heart overcards overcomes the fact that flush draws, straight draws as well as overcards containing a heart aren’t folding to a bet. The donk lead allows opponents in position to play their hands more easily. Understanding that his draws would likely check to take the free card (if checked through) and that since he just called from the bb and lead into the pre flop aggressor and the field that he highly likely flopped a pair No greater than a 7. He can easily be bluffed on straight or flush completing runouts as well as 2 overcards to top pair etc etc. Checking and check calling the flop bet keeps his range wider and less defined and if the pre flop aggressor doesn’t cbet and a field caller bets, he can also attack that stab with a cr with a high degree of success as well That turn card would have been ideal for a large bet for protection as well as value from the worse pairs and draws that may have stabbed the flop and called the check raise . I
almost stopped watching the instructional vid when I heard you praise the Flop donk lead. I’m glad that I stayed because I enjoyed and agreed with the logic in the rest of the vid.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I was watching the vid thinking to myself “How can that lead be good?” He’s doing more damage defining his own range than anything he’s trying to accomplish by betting. He’s out of position multi way. Check your entire range there...
Would any of you mind explaining me please why at 14:40 all of them have to be hearts?
Nice!
Thanks Brandon!
People dont always bluff, just because they have a missed draw. Sometimes they give up, if they dont think, bluffing is profitable, or they are risk averse. So while we want there to be missed draws, when we are considering to call with a bluff catcher, we also want an opponent, who will actually pull the trigger and do it. Its not like, we are printing money by calling in a spot like this, which the video kind of makes it sound like.
He called a raise with a queen ten honey! 😆
Bro that was an amazing call. I never put him on KTs i thought he had 9J
u gotta think j9 he would want to get u to call kT he would want to get u to fold so why bet so big w j9.
@@jonsockafella5778 so with j9 you think he should bet 20.00. he went all in with nothing. At least 2 pairs
Alec. Was never a fan of your non instructional vids (sorry). But thought this video was helpful and come across as a good coach. I would be already very familiar with ranges and combos
I hate 2-3 because people will literally play any hand
Why aren’t 8-9,9-10 of hearts included in the range?
That's a middling hand with showdown value so it's likely villain would check there with 2nd pair, even though he missed his flush. You want to shove on the river with a polarized range of value hands that hero might call with a worse hand (J10h for example) or bluff hands that hero might fold with a better hand (45h for example).
Why isn't A7 in the hand that beats us???
Dude loose cannon calls $10 with 73s And 32o And devide to call the flop not raise Seen this so many times. We keep assuming villain is thinking Of players behind him hes not hes loose cannon and lots of loose cannons will slow play 2 pair regardless of flush draws they dont give a ahit lol he could have 33, 22, 79, 88, 99, TT, JJ He couldve floated with A9o JTo since flop bet is so small relative to life value (they are not thinking bb they are thinking absolute value of the money) and when u check they bet. Im not complaining or whining but loose cannons are playing there own hand and they will not be thinking about what u have or whose in the pot or what positions they are in or anything. they will play any 2 suited or unsuited gappers and All of their Axo. Guy can hit J7o they will call. They will have 92s 93s J3s J2s, 72o because its 72 and its famous. They are not reading your hand 🖐. There just going purely by feel.
I have no complaints about these players easy to play against just have to watch what they do in other hands they play and also how they play against you because the way they play against each player varies.
If two people call a hand every time, over time they'd each win 50% of the time. Minus the rake.
Meaning, as players get better it's harder to win consistently.
Mick Malkemus The smaller pool of for-profit players are getting better, the larger pool of recreational players are not. If u don't believe it, go play on a Friday or Saturday night.
Seriously? "...went from 1/3 to 2/5 crushing it...." uh huh, sure Alec
I get everything except for the middle of the video when discussing opponents range and saying that they wouldn't have called $10 pre flop raise with A5 or A4. Why not? I would totally put that in someone's calling range in the cutoff.
nice video
Thanks
Mmmmm ok but he could easily have turned over Kh/Jh. When you call the $190 bet, you will be uncomfortable until the cards are shown. It’ll either be a “hooray” or a “fook me” moment. That’s poker
How to win: play tight
Tight aggressive
@@wesk2675 Not always aggressive. That can make people play blindly agressive.
Had my soul crushed at my local casino with pocket kings OP in back to back sessions recently I fired big preflop flop turn river villain needed specifically 97 and t7 to river back door straights both played reasonably tight for a couple of hours before hand. Both times rivered me with the offsuit rags. Are they just idiots or is there something I’m missing here? should I be allowing t7o and 97o into calling half pot bets all the way into their ranges? I haven’t played since and it has totally tilted me to the max.
Why not bet bigger to exploit them if they keep calling!?
Conscious Poker by Alec Torelli Sounds like a plan! Thanks for that I really appreciate it. 👍
Frankly there’s a little more to it than that this is only two hands the reality is if people keep taking their rags against your pocket kings over the course of a long sample size you are going to be a winner so if they are calling your normal raise sizes with these garbage hands you’re still going to be a winner I am never mad when I see a player call my pre-flop raises with garbage hands even if I get felted I always have buy ins behind me and I nine times out of 10 I’m going to get my money back from that player or players like them however often times it is good increase your bet size perhaps going from 3X to 3.5 X or even 4X if needed but really if they are calling with those kind of hands how much does that change the cards that are going to fall are going to fall and again over the course of time pocket kings are going to crush 10 seven off and 97 off without any issue. If I was sentenced to some purgatory for 10 years where I am dealt pocket kings and my opponent is dealt 97 off suit over and over and over again I would leave purgatory a rich man.
Michael I have been upsizing bets recently since this channel suggested it...has definitely helped my game a lot. They just keep calling 10-20bb with top pair no kicker it’s freaking weird. But Just as a precaution pocket kings are going straight in the muck from now on those 2 sessions have scarred me for life. Haha
@@Michael-tn7qw This is a reason to have a very well padded bankroll,even over twice what is recommended for your stakes/game type at all times so the long run can be reached before you go broke. Many live players are recreational and buy in once a week with a significant portion of their paycheck and if they lose a couple of buy ins through no fault of their own,they get frustrated and play really bad afterwards or leave the game for some time. The moral of the story is to always have so many buy ins that no matter what happens,you can always come back tomorrow and it's water off a ducks back...
I don’t understand why you wouldn’t be worried about over pairs .
Not staged at all
The way to crush a 2-5 game is to get luckt nd run well.
Yeah, what happens when you hero call and villian shows A9HH? are you assuming he would re-raise a hand like that pre-flop from the CO? I mean with a hand like that It was a beautiful flop, an even better turn card, and the J isn't really scaring villian when hero decides to check river. Maybe its just me but I don't call $10 pre flop with a junky marginal hand like K7 suited out of position. I'm either going to 3bet pre-flop and take it down there or I'm folding. I would never want to play K7 suited out of position in a multi-way pot. I mean its good to mix up your play but in spots like this you literally don't know where you're at with villian calling pre-flop raise, calling flop bet, calling turn bet, and then jamming river.
Additionally, if hero is going to call pre-flop, bet flop, bet turn, he should almost always be jamming river to keep telling the story he's trying to sell.
this is such a marketing scheme to players who dont have a clue.. first off the donk lead is horrible. villian can have 88s thru AAs and yes he will flat the DONK lead with these hands. a7, 9x are also beating you, so how alec doesnt include these hands is comical. and before he tells the result, it was so obvious that the villian would be bluffing and his students hero call was mathematically correct, what great funneling lol. trash
hes literally donking off his whole stack multiway one street at a time lol with k7 on that 2379J board.
Yes of many terrible coaches that cant best 0.02-0.05 cent zoom in stars Alex is one off The worst, terrible player almost donk negreanu donk hellmut level.
How in gods name can you take 20 minutes to deduce one bet while already knowing what he has for one bet. Youre not watching 6 other players, running your cards, then running all of his potential hands through a “range filter” in the 6 seconds youd have in real time. Come the hell on my guy…
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He means NL2 & NL5 !? Or $2 & $5 bb?
$2/$5 Live
79d wouldn’t raise I don’t think
Like you couldn't have had Jack 10 of Hearts instead of the king.
He did put that in the column of hands that could have bet the river for value
14:30
Anyway you will lose a lot of money in the long run if you play this specific hand like that. calling a 5x open (!) from MP in the BB with K7s is burning money. even if you hit the flush you still go broke against the A high flush that all of the opponents at the table have in there range. And why the hell do you not notice that on the river you only have to be good a bit over 30% of the time?
Increase playtime to 2x thank me later
8 weeks isn't nearly enough too know if he's crushing lolol. I've gone up 10k on 1/3 doesn't mean I'm crushing haha.
I safely assume a 10k heater means you’re crushing.
@@MrVibeCheck41 Trust me it doesn't. The variance involved in poker is heavy. You can go on 10k upswings which is big no doubt, but you can also hit 6k downswings, etc. etc. Variance is brutal. I grinded 2/3 live 300 buy in for about 2-3 years. Overall i must of ended up break even in the long term. Rake adds up, tips add up. Variance burns a hole in your wallet. You go on tilt in any form then your really losing money end of story. Been there, done that. 8 weeks is laughable.
Btw i played about 30-40 hours per week. I track over 400+ Sessions for 2 years.
He did not invent anything, this “hand funnel” is not an invention. He has merely coined a phrase, every half decent poker player does this. Charlatan
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@vernon padilla Ik im stoned atm im just offering help.
Alec is no charlatan he is trying to help people become better at the game. That's not what most pros do, most of them want fish to stay fish. Alec is a rarity in that he has a higher purpose beyond raking in pots. Raking in pots has only so much to offer.
Senna Rain maybe charlatan was harsh. I take that back - all round he seems like a decent bloke. But this “hand funnel” is not an invention. Everyone does this that isn’t terrible at poker. This video specifically, is charlatan-esque
@@Alex-yv4vr Alec isnt a charlatan lmao you must be a new fish to say something so dumb. You've probably been studying the game for like a month and think you're a pro, he would destroy you and take every cent you have. Maybe you should pay attention and learn something instead of worrying about what terms he did or didnt invent.
Up 5k in 2 months? Not great