Paul London has to be one of the coolest dudes out there. He is just so level headed, has a great perspective on life, and really understands the business.
Luckily for Matt he could cut a promo a lot of guys wwe brought in during the time period couldn’t cut a promo to save their life it ultimately helped him getting an announcer job
I did a 3 day loop with Matt through the Maritimes and he could not have been a more warm, approachable and informative dude. He offered to go over everyone’s matches from the previous nights, individually but did so in a very positive way - when something was bad he would call it but when something was good, he got so happy and excited that we were understanding and applying the information he was freely giving us. Matt Striker gives many fucks about pro wrestling and I’m very grateful to have met and learned from him.
Back in 2016 when I was in training the promoter brought in Matt striker so do a seminar and after it was over he was doing Q&A and my question was "how was your time in WWE?" His answer was "it payed the bills" after he said that I figured there was hazing/bullying going on. These podcasts just prove that
The 'move/throw out/ root through someone's bag' hazing--essentially just privacy invasion--is junior-high level. I had bullies do the same to me in school. It's unbelievably juvenile, lame, pathetic and witless for older teens to do it, let alone grown men with jobs. What a joke.
he did not, something that I'm noticing from these stories with Rene and Paul is that a lot of these old school guys were pretty childish, a bunch of 40+-year-olds doing high school pranks with the sole excuse of "well I went through the same" that denotes a huge lack of emotional and mental maturity IMO
I’ve been a fan of wrestling about 30 years, and without a doubt the hazing is the most childish and immature thing about the pro wrestling business. In Matt Striker’s case, I always felt like he should’ve been a bigger star. He could wrestle and talk. Also was a great commentator. It’s a shame this type of behavior is allowed. Because in any other job you’d be fired and rightfully so for being unprofessional. I get teaching new wrestlers respect for the business, but a lot of stories I’ve heard cross the line.
Hazing is not exclusive to wrestling. It’s just talked about more. It’s happened in all sports , and even big business. It’s well documented. Luckily times are changing. But like Dupree says, it all comes down to insecurity
If I had a penny for every time someone would say - “ohh this guy could have been a bigger star, they were an underrated talented and they were wasted, so much potential” id be a billionaire. 😂
Matt Striker says JBL was going through a lot of personal problems at the time, but to me that's no excuse to treat anyone the way he did Matt. JBL was seemingly a bully for years, not just during that one time period. Hazing is utterly pathetic.
I'm just a know nothing mark. But from my perspective I see wrestlers excusing the hazing as a form of necessary gatekeeping "making sure people are paying their dues and here for the right reasons" and all that. But it looks to me more like grown men acting really insecure and bullying people into leaving out of fear younger people are going to take their spot. And this damages the wrestling buisness as there's less young and fresh talent to take over when the older stars retire. Which we're actually seeing happen now. A bunch of mediocre to okay wrestlers. And maybe 1 or 2 real stars like MJF in a sea of people who are way to old to be working in my opinion. In the "ruthless agression era" we had plenty of mid carders who could've easily ascended into proper stars but they were all driven out by the time of the modern era. So we just get endless Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar now.
The business was built by a bunch of carnies and degenerates who often couldnt function and succeed in other walks of life. Insecurity is rampant especially back in the day in which you enter a brand new locker room and have no clue what anyone's intentions are. Youd have some guys who legit an hour before being in the locker room had just comitted a crime. Others were desperate to hold their spot. Thats why the handshake is so integral to the etiquette to establish some level of trust and keeping each other safe. The business was built on secrecy and deceit so it just brews mistrust. Also a shitload of the hazing is due to being on the road so much and also id say its vince's fault. Vince liked the antics and encouraged it. Hazing was and is extremely common in these sort of all men functions like frats and the military. The business today has TOO MANY wrestlers. Wrestling schools today let anyone in the door and let anyone wrestle a match. Thats why you have these bloated rosters in which so many guys never even get tv time. There just isnt enough room or time on tv. The problem is back in the day people got into the business because they often enough fell into it by accident and it was the only job they could hold and they learned they could make money by selling tickets. Generations later nerd kids grew up wanting to play wrestler and generalizing here but the new crop of wrestlers think working means doing a bunch of gymnastics. When in reality working means working the audience so they become invested in you and the product and keep buying tickets to watch.
Early ruthless agression era had lot of main eventers but in late period many had gone or retired so they were left with only randy and john cena. Wwe didn't pushed few great midcarders they had so randy and cena were only new main event till next decade until cm punk and bryan arrived. Afterwards main event was hijacked by shield and brock Lesnar especially roman reigns
Even Brock lesnar and Goldberg left and nobody was bullying them ! The schedule and the drugs is what weeded out a lot of top guys ! Even Orton was close to getting fired many times because of substance abuse !
When they would make people change in the hall, did anyone else in the locker room try to help? cause I feel like an entire room of dudes and everyone was too scared to say "Yo that's fucked up" ?
Im fine with innocent hazing such as hiding someones pants after a show or maybe even leaving the bill for someone to pay but if its one and done if its constant at a certain point something needs to change wrestling culture can be toxic and many guys and gals just want to make a living from something they love doing enough is enough and its literally time for a change.
Why tho it’s mess up I know today locker room scene in any wrestling promotion isn’t perfect but my god it’s far better than back then wrestler court and all those stories are imo horrible man I’m glad today’s wrestling isn’t like this social media may have ruined wrestling but if those things happen today u can expect those wrestlers to be cancel or being suspended
Shane Helms in an interview said they were overseas and Matt got heat and asked for his advice, Hurricane goes let's smooth this shit over before wrestler's court Undertaker likes Jack Daniels, JBL likes Jack Daniels, and Booker T likes Hennessey I dont care how much it costs buy a lot of cases.
Get real. It was an accidental botch due to sandbagging. And Holly was one of the only guys to kick Lesnar's ass on TV around that time. Not to mention, Brock Lesnar believes in the old school ways as well.
Benoit threw Miz out because Vince, Taker and JBL wanted him out. Miz was carrying himself like an ass and he already had nuclear heat from the Real World. He even states on Jericho's podcast how Benoit tried to get him back in but the boys wouldn't allow it.
There's only some many times you can No Sell something, and not feel like you are losing Self Respect. It's perfectly Normal to Speak up for Yourself. I J S 😏🤔
Rikishi was fired by WWE after Sunday, 4/25/2004 ( WWE) Wichita Falls , Texas: Kay Yeager Coliseum : Scottie Too Hottie & Rikishi ( got Fired after this Match) defeated The Dudley Boyz ( Bubba Ray Dudley & D- Von Dudley )
They still do this stuff today but they try and pretend like it doesnt happen. I mean look at Roman bullying Enzo amore and making him get off a bus or something that they were traveling in. Of course he wont get called out for being a bully...
Too bad the WWE wasn't team oriented like it is now. Yes I'm sure there's animosity but it's zero tolerance. So you keep your jealousy and ego in check amongst the locker room. When Renee and London were in the WWE it was pretty much backstabbing and bullying going on. It wasn't team oriented and it probably was very miserable. Even doing what you dreamed to do. I mean Paul London wanting to have a cool elimination in the Royal Rumble. Just so the crowd has a cool memory. Instead of the same old same old. Renee was a physical specimen and he is a hell of a wrestler. Why hasn't AEW called him in for at least one match. He still looks great and hasn't missed a beat because he is still active. Both are great performers. I mean London could dye his hair black like the older guys in WCW did and could go back and blow everyone's mind. Both of these guys are great guys and great wrestlers in their own right. London definitely got a little more mileage in WWE. However it was just the wrong time for them. If they'd come in young right now in the WWE, it would have been perfect for them. All they wanted to do was put on great shoes and matches. They didn't want to travel around the country non stop and perform away from their families, obviously in pain from taking bumps. Then having to go into work and enter the locker room and deal with the likes of assholes with a bully mentality. Like Bradshaw or like Hardcore Holly. Whom the second of the two I met personally and he seemed like he wanted to punch me in the face just for saying hello, not marking out just recognizing him leaving my restaurant on the way out. He was walking with Kane whom I had no idea was Kane because he hadn't revealed his face yet and he was HUGE. I thought he was Holly's bodyguard as Holly wasn't very tall. He was a little taller than me accept boy was he wide. But as a lifetime WWE fan I recognized him from the minute he came in and I didn't say anything at all. Just as they were leaving. I didn't ask for no pictures or autographs. I just said "Hey Hardcore Holly, nice to meet you man. Who are you fighting tonight?" He said nothing but he gave me a look and in a way it kind of scared me. He wasn't tall but he was a very wide guy. He's very big in that way. All muscle. However as he was exiting the door he said to me "Al Snow" As he glared at me and walked out the door. That's all I asked him. And I was just recognizing him low key. Nobody else even knew who they were. They just knew that they were both abnormally big dudes. And I wasn't asking for shit. Just asking who he was fighting at the Warwick Musical Theater. That's where they were having the show at the time. That place is gone now and they perform at the Dunkin Donuts Center in Providence,RI. It's a shit hole state. And they were eating at The Cowesette Inn on Cowesette Ave in Warwick RI. This was actually in around 1999 or so. Maybe a year earlier. It was just around the Attitude Era. And he was a lower midcarder fighting Al Snow um again,for the good old Hardcore title. So I'm sure he wasn't too happy about his status. But what a complete and total egotistical asshole. I mean I was just saying hello. You'd figure the guy would be happy that at least one person recognized him, as nobody else did. They all thought that they were football players. And I wasn't being a dick an saying "Hey can I get an autograph?" Nope nore would I have. He was a lower midcarder. If it had been HHH or Shawn or even X Pac and Billy Gunn. Yes. I would have asked. Ntm they are much cooler wrestlers to meet in real life. Much more down to earth. This guy just looked like a roided out freak who looked at me like he wanted to rip my dam head off for recognizing him. Whatever. Yeah the stock car driver. When they first came in the races were on TV at the bar and Kane said to him "There you go" As he motioned to the TV screen. As to show him there were stock car races on. It was a Sunday night. And I'm sure they were headed down the road to work after they ate. Kane said nothing but boy seeing him face to face. Kane was a dam giant. Like inhuman height and size. He was pretty scary because he was so dam big. Bob was scary because of his wide size and roided look. Seriously that guy was on steroids I don't give a fuck WTF anyone says. And the way he looked at me when I just said hello. Holy shit what a fuckin dick! From that point on whenever the guy would be on RAW or Smackdown wrestling someone, I definitely had a different feeling about the guy. I can only imagine having to get dressed next to this guy. Or work with this guy. I mean he looks like the type of guy to just go off on a poor bastard for just looking at him crossed eyed. Miserable mean egotistical asshole. I'm sure that's what got him his great spot he was gate keeping at the lower midcard. Very charming piece of shit he was. Glad he's retired. Mean prick
Sunday, 12/14/2003 ( WWE House Show ) Indianapolis, Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse: The World's Greatest Tag Team ( Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Hass ) defeated Paul London ( Indianapolis Debut Match) & Spanky. Hardcore ( Bob) Holly defeated Rhyno .This may be the night Paul London's Bag ( of clothes ) was taken out the locker room. Tuesday, 4/13/2004 ( WWE SmackDown TV Taping) Indianapolis, Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse Dark Match: Paul London ( London's 2nd match in Indianapolis ) defeated Brent Fulbright ; Hardcore ( Bob ) Holly defeated Akio
I say Matt striker had stuff thrown out his stuff I say seems like a pull of a leg but what people in back what I heard did to Rene I say us definitely example just plain awful bullying
Stories like this are the reason I never sent my stuff to WWE, not even once, in my 20 year career. I'm autistic and would have been eaten alive in that locker room.
Tuesday, 10/18/2005 ( WWE SmackDown TV Taping) From Reno, Nevada: Dark Match: scottie Too Hottie defeated Matt Striker; Opening Match: Opening Match: CruiserWeight Title Match: Juventud ( Champion) defeated Paul London Rey Mysterio beat John Layfield Bradshaw via DQ. JBL wasn't champion, but Batista was WWE World HW Champion. The night Matt Striker stuff was thrown out the locker room.
I always thought they should have had a leader like Taker etc handling etiquette. Bring a new guy in make them feel welcome, assign them a veteran point of contact and set out that all the hazing etc is Indy bullshit (AEW) and that WWE is professional. Jocks being jocks is a piss poor excuse
They did the same to Miz for some time. Until the Undertaker put that to a stop. Seemingly after he worked with Miz in the ring. JBL and other bullies like that asshole Hardcore Holly. Sure big tough guys. Well the Undertaker was the real big tough guy. And what he said went for a reason. And it was because he WAS the REAL big tough guy. And he didn't have to flex it. He knew it and so did everyone else.
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It's old school tradition to test the new guy. Enough with knocking those traditions. Part of the reason wrestling today isn't what it used to be is because so many of the wrestlers of today have lost respect for tradition and for what came before and that's never OK. They'd rather bitch and moan on Twitter about those traditions than carry them on. This generation is weak and wimpy and I'd gladly take those days of old any day of the week over this day & age, and twice on Sundays!
You need to remember though, these guys know who their audience is. Just look at the comments, lots of the people are the overly sensitive types, who are petrified of raised voices, so you won't get complete honesty on many wrestling podcasts, as they don't want to scare people away
So it's ok to haze them?? Fuck that and Fuck tradition. Tell that to Jon moxley if he's not hardcore at all. His matches are insane and he's new school generation. They come to wrestle and make a living off of it. Not to get treated like shit. Besides this only happened in WWE not any other promotion.
I'm sure Roman Reigns would be a much bigger star if only Undertaker and Goldust had hidden his luggage on a other tour bus or forced him to change in the hallways.
@@cafederene try my hardest in honesty not to watch but when you get boring bitter paul london every other week moaning and crying I wanna see if its anything different then locker room talk or bullying but nope same old 💩 from him
This is why i laughed my ass off when WWE was showing anti bullying campaigns when that peice of human garbage JBL was on commentary 😂
Taker was main eventing Mania through this period as well
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Paul London has to be one of the coolest dudes out there. He is just so level headed, has a great perspective on life, and really understands the business.
Nah..I'm not a huge fan...
And unfortunately that's why they treated him horribly. Good guys get tormented everywhere.
Luckily for Matt he could cut a promo a lot of guys wwe brought in during the time period couldn’t cut a promo to save their life it ultimately helped him getting an announcer job
Matt is a legend at promos
I did a 3 day loop with Matt through the Maritimes and he could not have been a more warm, approachable and informative dude. He offered to go over everyone’s matches from the previous nights, individually but did so in a very positive way - when something was bad he would call it but when something was good, he got so happy and excited that we were understanding and applying the information he was freely giving us.
Matt Striker gives many fucks about pro wrestling and I’m very grateful to have met and learned from him.
Back in 2016 when I was in training the promoter brought in Matt striker so do a seminar and after it was over he was doing Q&A and my question was "how was your time in WWE?" His answer was "it payed the bills" after he said that I figured there was hazing/bullying going on. These podcasts just prove that
Just straight up bulling. No excuse for it and it's a shame so many had to go through it. Hope the like rooms continue to evolve
Bulling?
@@rubberchix *y* do you ask? 😁
@@ydoihave2picanamebullying
The 'move/throw out/ root through someone's bag' hazing--essentially just privacy invasion--is junior-high level. I had bullies do the same to me in school. It's unbelievably juvenile, lame, pathetic and witless for older teens to do it, let alone grown men with jobs. What a joke.
That’s what all these guys are. In Jr High they got bullied then they discovered steroids and started to haze other and call it locker room rules.
more like they were already bullies in high school and then got steroidsed up in wrestling and they turned even worse@@zacharyradford5552
I feel like Matt didn't really do anything wrong
he did not, something that I'm noticing from these stories with Rene and Paul is that a lot of these old school guys were pretty childish, a bunch of 40+-year-olds doing high school pranks with the sole excuse of "well I went through the same" that denotes a huge lack of emotional and mental maturity IMO
He did, he tried to big league someone who had been in the company 15 years
@@TheUltimateVoid It's embarassing honestly. Seems like the real "divas" of the WWE were the men
How?
@@Sam1c9797 big league what? he didnt want to do anything with that piece of shit
Stock car racer guy 😂
Who did he mean?
@@aeronation7465 Hardcore Holly.
Lots of grown men who never got out of the high school mentality. There for it has carried over to there adult life’s.
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I always liked Matt Striker. Underrated for sure!
I’ve been a fan of wrestling about 30 years, and without a doubt the hazing is the most childish and immature thing about the pro wrestling business. In Matt Striker’s case, I always felt like he should’ve been a bigger star. He could wrestle and talk. Also was a great commentator. It’s a shame this type of behavior is allowed. Because in any other job you’d be fired and rightfully so for being unprofessional. I get teaching new wrestlers respect for the business, but a lot of stories I’ve heard cross the line.
Hazing is not exclusive to wrestling. It’s just talked about more. It’s happened in all sports , and even big business. It’s well documented. Luckily times are changing. But like Dupree says, it all comes down to insecurity
If I had a penny for every time someone would say - “ohh this guy could have been a bigger star, they were an underrated talented and they were wasted, so much potential” id be a billionaire. 😂
It was he Janitors Closet. Good Morning Fam. Shout out to Matt Stryker. I hope all is well 🖐👏✊
Paul london teeling stories in his "story"
voice is the moast fun thing on this podcast
His a suxker for the girls thou
Matt Striker says JBL was going through a lot of personal problems at the time, but to me that's no excuse to treat anyone the way he did Matt. JBL was seemingly a bully for years, not just during that one time period. Hazing is utterly pathetic.
I'm just a know nothing mark. But from my perspective I see wrestlers excusing the hazing as a form of necessary gatekeeping "making sure people are paying their dues and here for the right reasons" and all that. But it looks to me more like grown men acting really insecure and bullying people into leaving out of fear younger people are going to take their spot. And this damages the wrestling buisness as there's less young and fresh talent to take over when the older stars retire. Which we're actually seeing happen now. A bunch of mediocre to okay wrestlers. And maybe 1 or 2 real stars like MJF in a sea of people who are way to old to be working in my opinion. In the "ruthless agression era" we had plenty of mid carders who could've easily ascended into proper stars but they were all driven out by the time of the modern era. So we just get endless Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar now.
Your correct
You are a know nothing mark!!!!!
Nah I'm only joking boss
Hope I didn't offend you
The business was built by a bunch of carnies and degenerates who often couldnt function and succeed in other walks of life. Insecurity is rampant especially back in the day in which you enter a brand new locker room and have no clue what anyone's intentions are. Youd have some guys who legit an hour before being in the locker room had just comitted a crime. Others were desperate to hold their spot. Thats why the handshake is so integral to the etiquette to establish some level of trust and keeping each other safe. The business was built on secrecy and deceit so it just brews mistrust. Also a shitload of the hazing is due to being on the road so much and also id say its vince's fault. Vince liked the antics and encouraged it. Hazing was and is extremely common in these sort of all men functions like frats and the military. The business today has TOO MANY wrestlers. Wrestling schools today let anyone in the door and let anyone wrestle a match. Thats why you have these bloated rosters in which so many guys never even get tv time. There just isnt enough room or time on tv. The problem is back in the day people got into the business because they often enough fell into it by accident and it was the only job they could hold and they learned they could make money by selling tickets. Generations later nerd kids grew up wanting to play wrestler and generalizing here but the new crop of wrestlers think working means doing a bunch of gymnastics. When in reality working means working the audience so they become invested in you and the product and keep buying tickets to watch.
Chris Benoit was well known for this bullying type of behaviour he bullied striker and many others
Early ruthless agression era had lot of main eventers but in late period many had gone or retired so they were left with only randy and john cena. Wwe didn't pushed few great midcarders they had so randy and cena were only new main event till next decade until cm punk and bryan arrived. Afterwards main event was hijacked by shield and brock Lesnar especially roman reigns
Even Brock lesnar and Goldberg left and nobody was bullying them ! The schedule and the drugs is what weeded out a lot of top guys ! Even Orton was close to getting fired many times because of substance abuse !
I feel like Striker is a pretty honorable and sweetheart of a guy.🤘
Renes listening & has the look of "Youre telling me?!!"
The 2000’s locker room was a hell hole, it looks like.
Holly, Benoit and JBL all bullies, Taker let it happen too so he was part of it.
@@alanchamberlain9902Yesh not enough dirt on taker they need to expose him more.
When they would make people change in the hall, did anyone else in the locker room try to help? cause I feel like an entire room of dudes and everyone was too scared to say "Yo that's fucked up" ?
Is there somewhere this version of the Rene Dupree entrance theme can be found? It has really stuck with me.
Brian Christopher got it worse
You know. Wrestlers say "you know" a lot. How come, you know.
Im fine with innocent hazing such as hiding someones pants after a show or maybe even leaving the bill for someone to pay but if its one and done if its constant at a certain point something needs to change wrestling culture can be toxic and many guys and gals just want to make a living from something they love doing enough is enough and its literally time for a change.
The stock-car racer
Why tho it’s mess up I know today locker room scene in any wrestling promotion isn’t perfect but my god it’s far better than back then wrestler court and all those stories are imo horrible man I’m glad today’s wrestling isn’t like this social media may have ruined wrestling but if those things happen today u can expect those wrestlers to be cancel or being suspended
Now I feel bad for asking him to get Goldie for me outside the arena....felt bad then and asked him to sign my ticket cuz he looked bummed. Heh
Do the rules apply to the next arena? Like it was thrown out at a certain arena, it only happened at that arena?
Wow Paul getting old man 450 splash use to be my special on trampoline lol
Shane Helms in an interview said they were overseas and Matt got heat and asked for his advice, Hurricane goes let's smooth this shit over before wrestler's court Undertaker likes Jack Daniels, JBL likes Jack Daniels, and Booker T likes Hennessey I dont care how much it costs buy a lot of cases.
I thought that was Muhammed Hasan
@@HybridDolphinMuhammad Hassan was telling Eddie Guerrero not to use the camel clutch thanks to Kurt Angle.
And they tipped the drinks out? I thought that was Hasan as well?
I'm high right now, I had to read this a few times to understand haha
It's messed up that y'all had to work in that environment.
Closet cases like I said before 😂🤣
Man, I wanna know from these guys if Lesnar breaking Holly's neck in 03 was cos he was sick of how his attitude
holly was sandbagging him and brock didn't know his strength.
Get real. It was an accidental botch due to sandbagging. And Holly was one of the only guys to kick Lesnar's ass on TV around that time. Not to mention, Brock Lesnar believes in the old school ways as well.
@@DevoJetBoy8680 brock booted his head right after dropping him on his neck, pretty sure he was pissed
@@DevoJetBoy8680 also sandbagging isn’t ever accidental
@@br-jj6re You can most certainly sandbag someone accidentally through bad grip or mistiming.
Remember this the next time someone complains about the current wrestlers being soft.
Why can’t both the fact that older guys were bullies and the new guys being soft be true ?
I just watched a video on Jim Ross talking about Benoit throwing MIZ’s stuff out of the locker room.
Benoit threw Miz out because Vince, Taker and JBL wanted him out. Miz was carrying himself like an ass and he already had nuclear heat from the Real World. He even states on Jericho's podcast how Benoit tried to get him back in but the boys wouldn't allow it.
The “Boys” sound more like the Girls.
It’s a very fine line between Hazing & Psycho-Bully Shit
bob was looking in his bag for pills
There's only some many times you can No Sell something, and not feel like you are losing Self Respect. It's perfectly Normal to Speak up for Yourself. I J S 😏🤔
Stock car racer?
Rikishi was fired by WWE after Sunday, 4/25/2004 ( WWE) Wichita Falls , Texas: Kay Yeager Coliseum : Scottie Too Hottie & Rikishi ( got Fired after this Match) defeated The Dudley Boyz ( Bubba Ray Dudley & D- Von Dudley )
They still do this stuff today but they try and pretend like it doesnt happen. I mean look at Roman bullying Enzo amore and making him get off a bus or something that they were traveling in. Of course he wont get called out for being a bully...
Lol even enzo said that isnt what happened. He has said he has no issues with roman reigns
@@yeahsssa8114 They may have no issues now but how is that not what happened? It definitley happened and it wasnt fair of him to do that.
@@darylhall2198 If Enzo doesn't care why should you?
And it's the use of the word "bullied" that he said didn't happen.
lol op sounds like a sad chud.
Too bad the WWE wasn't team oriented like it is now. Yes I'm sure there's animosity but it's zero tolerance. So you keep your jealousy and ego in check amongst the locker room. When Renee and London were in the WWE it was pretty much backstabbing and bullying going on. It wasn't team oriented and it probably was very miserable. Even doing what you dreamed to do. I mean Paul London wanting to have a cool elimination in the Royal Rumble. Just so the crowd has a cool memory. Instead of the same old same old. Renee was a physical specimen and he is a hell of a wrestler. Why hasn't AEW called him in for at least one match. He still looks great and hasn't missed a beat because he is still active. Both are great performers. I mean London could dye his hair black like the older guys in WCW did and could go back and blow everyone's mind. Both of these guys are great guys and great wrestlers in their own right. London definitely got a little more mileage in WWE. However it was just the wrong time for them. If they'd come in young right now in the WWE, it would have been perfect for them. All they wanted to do was put on great shoes and matches. They didn't want to travel around the country non stop and perform away from their families, obviously in pain from taking bumps. Then having to go into work and enter the locker room and deal with the likes of assholes with a bully mentality. Like Bradshaw or like Hardcore Holly. Whom the second of the two I met personally and he seemed like he wanted to punch me in the face just for saying hello, not marking out just recognizing him leaving my restaurant on the way out. He was walking with Kane whom I had no idea was Kane because he hadn't revealed his face yet and he was HUGE. I thought he was Holly's bodyguard as Holly wasn't very tall. He was a little taller than me accept boy was he wide. But as a lifetime WWE fan I recognized him from the minute he came in and I didn't say anything at all. Just as they were leaving. I didn't ask for no pictures or autographs. I just said "Hey Hardcore Holly, nice to meet you man. Who are you fighting tonight?" He said nothing but he gave me a look and in a way it kind of scared me. He wasn't tall but he was a very wide guy. He's very big in that way. All muscle. However as he was exiting the door he said to me "Al Snow" As he glared at me and walked out the door. That's all I asked him. And I was just recognizing him low key. Nobody else even knew who they were. They just knew that they were both abnormally big dudes. And I wasn't asking for shit. Just asking who he was fighting at the Warwick Musical Theater. That's where they were having the show at the time. That place is gone now and they perform at the Dunkin Donuts Center in Providence,RI. It's a shit hole state. And they were eating at The Cowesette Inn on Cowesette Ave in Warwick RI. This was actually in around 1999 or so. Maybe a year earlier. It was just around the Attitude Era. And he was a lower midcarder fighting Al Snow um again,for the good old Hardcore title. So I'm sure he wasn't too happy about his status. But what a complete and total egotistical asshole. I mean I was just saying hello. You'd figure the guy would be happy that at least one person recognized him, as nobody else did. They all thought that they were football players. And I wasn't being a dick an saying "Hey can I get an autograph?" Nope nore would I have. He was a lower midcarder. If it had been HHH or Shawn or even X Pac and Billy Gunn. Yes. I would have asked. Ntm they are much cooler wrestlers to meet in real life. Much more down to earth. This guy just looked like a roided out freak who looked at me like he wanted to rip my dam head off for recognizing him. Whatever. Yeah the stock car driver. When they first came in the races were on TV at the bar and Kane said to him "There you go" As he motioned to the TV screen. As to show him there were stock car races on. It was a Sunday night. And I'm sure they were headed down the road to work after they ate. Kane said nothing but boy seeing him face to face. Kane was a dam giant. Like inhuman height and size. He was pretty scary because he was so dam big. Bob was scary because of his wide size and roided look. Seriously that guy was on steroids I don't give a fuck WTF anyone says. And the way he looked at me when I just said hello. Holy shit what a fuckin dick! From that point on whenever the guy would be on RAW or Smackdown wrestling someone, I definitely had a different feeling about the guy. I can only imagine having to get dressed next to this guy. Or work with this guy. I mean he looks like the type of guy to just go off on a poor bastard for just looking at him crossed eyed. Miserable mean egotistical asshole. I'm sure that's what got him his great spot he was gate keeping at the lower midcard. Very charming piece of shit he was. Glad he's retired. Mean prick
stryker doing that admiring look to other men still haunts me.... and now the irish backstage bloke does it,,,
someone tell him to stop
Sunday, 12/14/2003 ( WWE House Show ) Indianapolis, Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse: The World's Greatest Tag Team ( Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Hass ) defeated Paul London ( Indianapolis Debut Match) & Spanky. Hardcore ( Bob) Holly defeated Rhyno .This may be the night Paul London's Bag ( of clothes ) was taken out the locker room.
Tuesday, 4/13/2004 ( WWE SmackDown TV Taping) Indianapolis, Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse Dark Match: Paul London ( London's 2nd match in Indianapolis ) defeated Brent Fulbright ; Hardcore ( Bob ) Holly defeated Akio
Don't even get me started about Palmer Cannon they literally bullied him out of the company
I don't think threatening rape is classed as bullying, its much worse. Yet JBL is still part of the company today.
@@neotono5536 they hazed palmer.
@@great1004 That isn't hazing.
I say Matt striker had stuff thrown out his stuff I say seems like a pull of a leg but what people in back what I heard did to Rene I say us definitely example just plain awful bullying
Stories like this are the reason I never sent my stuff to WWE, not even once, in my 20 year career. I'm autistic and would have been eaten alive in that locker room.
You wrestle? How are the indie locker rooms? Calmer?
I’m not a wrestler but I’m autistic. I was bullied by many people in school and they are me the fuck up.
Tuesday, 10/18/2005 ( WWE SmackDown TV Taping) From Reno, Nevada: Dark Match: scottie Too Hottie defeated Matt Striker; Opening Match: Opening Match: CruiserWeight Title Match: Juventud ( Champion) defeated Paul London Rey Mysterio beat John Layfield Bradshaw via DQ. JBL wasn't champion, but Batista was WWE World HW Champion. The night Matt Striker stuff was thrown out the locker room.
Me listening to this
Rikishi got fired?😮😮😮😮
What for?
I always thought they should have had a leader like Taker etc handling etiquette. Bring a new guy in make them feel welcome, assign them a veteran point of contact and set out that all the hazing etc is Indy bullshit (AEW) and that WWE is professional. Jocks being jocks is a piss poor excuse
Nah taker was a bully
Taker was an enabler.
They did the same to Miz for some time. Until the Undertaker put that to a stop. Seemingly after he worked with Miz in the ring. JBL and other bullies like that asshole Hardcore Holly. Sure big tough guys. Well the Undertaker was the real big tough guy. And what he said went for a reason. And it was because he WAS the REAL big tough guy. And he didn't have to flex it. He knew it and so did everyone else.
Were the girls doing the same?
No surprise striker always came off as a geek
Who’s the stock car racer guy?
bob holly... aka therman sparky plug
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Paul seems like he was intimidated by jbl
A lot of people were.
@@Neethan3247Not Joey Styles
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Hate all these bullying comments These are grown men. Who are physically strong. They should be able to stand up for themselves.
Never liked Matt striker tbh 🤷🏽♂️ I would have hazed him too
It's old school tradition to test the new guy. Enough with knocking those traditions. Part of the reason wrestling today isn't what it used to be is because so many of the wrestlers of today have lost respect for tradition and for what came before and that's never OK. They'd rather bitch and moan on Twitter about those traditions than carry them on. This generation is weak and wimpy and I'd gladly take those days of old any day of the week over this day & age, and twice on Sundays!
Hey look found a mf that's cool with someone shitting in their bag because they turned down a drink or something
You need to remember though, these guys know who their audience is. Just look at the comments, lots of the people are the overly sensitive types, who are petrified of raised voices, so you won't get complete honesty on many wrestling podcasts, as they don't want to scare people away
So it's ok to haze them?? Fuck that and Fuck tradition. Tell that to Jon moxley if he's not hardcore at all. His matches are insane and he's new school generation. They come to wrestle and make a living off of it. Not to get treated like shit. Besides this only happened in WWE not any other promotion.
I'm sure Roman Reigns would be a much bigger star if only Undertaker and Goldust had hidden his luggage on a other tour bus or forced him to change in the hallways.
@@Basillikos Get a clue.
Hazing is missed in Wrestling.
Everytime I see this podcast I just see old junkie bitter wrestlers who can't seem to move on with their lives
You know you have the option of not watching right?
@@cafederene try my hardest in honesty not to watch but when you get boring bitter paul london every other week moaning and crying I wanna see if its anything different then locker room talk or bullying but nope same old 💩 from him
@@paulhowells9757 It says what they are talking about in the title...