Haha, I heard he can sometimes occasionally be an okay guy, but alot of other times I heard he can be......well just the current events about him and Vince should tell u enough lol
@@billblaski9523I wonder if the people saying he’s okay were afraid to be honest though. It’s like how the majority of wrestlers were careful about what they said about Vince.
It was at a hole in the wall show in Ringgold GA.. I appreciate those who “make it” and still take the time to mingle with the fans. That stuff goes a LONG way, and I’m grateful to you guys for not being douchebags.
Haha dawg I remember that WWE Confidential segment on Renee. It was when he was still like 18, 19 I think? Waking up and downing protein shakes for breakfast, were those the good 'old days, Mr Dupree?
Interesting times we're living in. Hope anybody who's reading this gets through whatever they're going through. We're definitely living in times that try men's souls. 🙏🏼✨
One of my very favorite things about the wrestling business is all the imitations they do of each other. Rene's Johnny Ace is fantastic. Jim Cornette's Terry Funk is another favorite.
One of you two should text Johnny Ace and tell him the only thing he’ll be firing is the teenager working fries at the McDonald’s he’ll be working at… change that. That teenager will probably be Johnny Ace’s manager!
I was at this show in Brisbane, Australia. Shane Helms stood on the ring apron with blood pouring from his nose, holding his nose. It was a tag match with Shane and Fit Finlay against Paul London and Kid Kash. Finlay was awesome, the best heel that night. Yelling and threatening people with his shillelagh, looked like he'd actually hit some fat loudmouth in the crowd. This and Booker T vs Chris Benoit were the best matches of the night. Last live wrestling I ever saw, and I stopped watching wrestling on tv after this. How Paul was saying it's a technique with the nasty messages then resigning him for the same money is CLEARLY a confidence technique. I loved wrestling as a youngster, but once you learn about the demented games, the bullying, using people as pawns and trained monkeys, underpaying talent, dodging medical insurance and benefits from Vince, it really disgusts you.
Too bad they couldn't do Boogie Woogie Man (Johnny Valiant) vs Boogie Man, it might have made for an interesting billing if they had been from the same era.
Johnny Ace sounds like one of the most toxic people to work with. Honestly from these episodes it sounds like most of the people in WWE were toxic to work with at that time
Johnny wasn't that bad, he was just a stooge. When it's your job to be the one who actually fires people, you pretty much accept that the majority of the boys are gonna hate you... even though it was Vince's call.
@@uncledrosselmeyer6480 he remembers things slightly different than the other people that are in the room when said thing occurs. Not surprisingly he remembers things in a way that is more favorable to him.
@@uncledrosselmeyer6480 listen to the stories he tells, then listen to other wrestlers tell the same stories. Also according to him he was way better than everyone he worked with and they did not use him right. But truthfully he has no personality. He makes spanky look like the charismatic one.
@@carolynbuckley8733 in police investigations, eye witness descriptions are often contradictory so this isn't anything unusual. Embellishments often occur years later without people realizing it, their mind fills the blanks. If two people tell the exact same story it's often a sign that they rehearsed together like someone trying to get away with something.
All 2000s midcarders legit have ptsd having to work for Vince. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Shitting on Johnny Ace should be a weekly segment
Haha, I heard he can sometimes occasionally be an okay guy, but alot of other times I heard he can be......well just the current events about him and Vince should tell u enough lol
@@billblaski9523I wonder if the people saying he’s okay were afraid to be honest though.
It’s like how the majority of wrestlers were careful about what they said about Vince.
'What the fuck Rene???!?!?!? You're gonna get fired!!!!' - Johnny Ace
Good for Boogey. I met him once and he was a super nice, chill dude.
Johnny wasn't wrong though. . .
I heard a lot of wrestlers do an impression of John L, and I thought that RVD was good, however Rene's impression was spot on! LMFAO 😂😆
You should have asked him ...'how exactly do you fire an independent contractor ? ' ...that should have left him tongue tied.
I’ve never understood how these pro wrestling companies have gotten away with this “independent contractor” horse shit for years.
@@andrewmachado6988 Because there hasn't been any Congressional investigation despite all the promises.
Because you've contracted your talents to them, don't sign the effing contract if you don't want to live with it.
Not really. He would just say we won’t bring you back. Pretty much the same thing and you’re just neurotically splitting hairs
@@theslickrips5904 neurotic is a strong word. did you just learn it and wanted to flex it in a vaguely relevant topic?
Paul London is one of the coolest people I’ve ever met.
It was at a hole in the wall show in Ringgold GA.. I appreciate those who “make it” and still take the time to mingle with the fans. That stuff goes a LONG way, and I’m grateful to you guys for not being douchebags.
lol good impression of Johnny from Rene. Rene was so underrated in WWE. He was starting to get over in 2005 with his little french dance lol.
Haha dawg I remember that WWE Confidential segment on Renee. It was when he was still like 18, 19 I think? Waking up and downing protein shakes for breakfast, were those the good 'old days, Mr Dupree?
i think he and someone else beat the GOAT rvd and kane for the titles or maybe i’m thinking of another tag team
A pound of weed? Paul "Mary Jane" London.
yo rene's johnny ace impression is spot on lmao love the content
Interesting times we're living in. Hope anybody who's reading this gets through whatever they're going through. We're definitely living in times that try men's souls. 🙏🏼✨
One of my very favorite things about the wrestling business is all the imitations they do of each other.
Rene's Johnny Ace is fantastic. Jim Cornette's Terry Funk is another favorite.
Lmao at the Boogeyman story, it seems like nobody likes Johnny Ace, not even Vince.
Vince had to of liked him or else he wouldn't have kept him around so long...or maybe Johnny just knew too much to get fired.
@@daerth4423the second part by the looks of things.
One of you two should text Johnny Ace and tell him the only thing he’ll be firing is the teenager working fries at the McDonald’s he’ll be working at… change that. That teenager will probably be Johnny Ace’s manager!
...he’s got enough money to last the rest of his life, as does his family/extended family..
Plus he can always go to Japan to work. Not sure if he would consider it at his age.
Johnny Ace Voice *I can fire u Rene*
it just makes me laugh everytime I hear it😂
BOOGEYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Green rats and a flute! 💪😂👍
love Paul's stories. but mate it's a voicemail. They're going to be cold to you after you don't pick up lol
I was at this show in Brisbane, Australia. Shane Helms stood on the ring apron with blood pouring from his nose, holding his nose. It was a tag match with Shane and Fit Finlay against Paul London and Kid Kash. Finlay was awesome, the best heel that night. Yelling and threatening people with his shillelagh, looked like he'd actually hit some fat loudmouth in the crowd. This and Booker T vs Chris Benoit were the best matches of the night. Last live wrestling I ever saw, and I stopped watching wrestling on tv after this. How Paul was saying it's a technique with the nasty messages then resigning him for the same money is CLEARLY a confidence technique. I loved wrestling as a youngster, but once you learn about the demented games, the bullying, using people as pawns and trained monkeys, underpaying talent, dodging medical insurance and benefits from Vince, it really disgusts you.
In the book "Persuasion" by Cialdini, I think they called this technique Low Balling.
Too bad they couldn't do Boogie Woogie Man (Johnny Valiant) vs Boogie Man, it might have made for an interesting billing if they had been from the same era.
Would be wonderful to hear from bogeyman
lol no one at all cared about Helms when he wasnt hurricane, even now. Hes not a nice guy. Glad Rodney Mack took care of him.
Rodney Mack shot on helms? And he seems very 50/50 per interviews.
@@vincematthews9790 yeah it was discussed on here. He basically had it coming.
Shane Helms was about the only WCW holdover who got buried, and got it over.
Unless you count Goldust
Every time I hear people mention Johnny Ace it’s never anything good.
Johnny Ace sounds like one of the most toxic people to work with. Honestly from these episodes it sounds like most of the people in WWE were toxic to work with at that time
Johnny wasn't that bad, he was just a stooge. When it's your job to be the one who actually fires people, you pretty much accept that the majority of the boys are gonna hate you... even though it was Vince's call.
The boogie woogie man was Jimmy Valiant....not Johnny Valiant
Johnny ace was worst thing to ever happen to WWE
of course Vince loved boogeyman
got fired and a raised on same day ha
Paul was talented but he is a revisionist like Ryback
..how so?
@@uncledrosselmeyer6480 he remembers things slightly different than the other people that are in the room when said thing occurs. Not surprisingly he remembers things in a way that is more favorable to him.
@@uncledrosselmeyer6480 listen to the stories he tells, then listen to other wrestlers tell the same stories. Also according to him he was way better than everyone he worked with and they did not use him right. But truthfully he has no personality. He makes spanky look like the charismatic one.
@@carolynbuckley8733 in police investigations, eye witness descriptions are often contradictory so this isn't anything unusual. Embellishments often occur years later without people realizing it, their mind fills the blanks. If two people tell the exact same story it's often a sign that they rehearsed together like someone trying to get away with something.
He doesn't see the undertaker as this great locker room leader. Just a gully who could be nice but was also a kind of mafia boss.