'The Line' is the World's WORST City Design in Cities Skylines
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- 'The Line' is the World's WORST City Design in Cities Skylines
Cities Skylines gameplay today and I'm inspired! There's a new futuristic city design that came out recently called 'The Line'. It has some interesting concepts but is overall one of the most insane and evil creations I've ever seen, so of course I'll be building a replica of it in Cities Skylines!
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It will never be built we are going extinct!
They're literally just trying of stray
i thought the walls are supposed to be some kinda solar panel
Can’t wait for it to be abandoned seems like a cool place to explore
lmao
That's considering it given gets built in the first place. Sources cited that the project would take $500 billion USD. But Saudi Arabia's GDP is $700 billion USD itself
@@Sumirevins GDP≠money
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That Saudi vertical city doesn't sound nice at all.
It just sounds like a cyberpunkest dystopian nightmare.
This is exactly what I was thinking
I'm more interested in how the logistics would work in the city
I agree with you, but hey, if we keep polluting the atmosphere, I think the only way to survive will either be to end up like in cyberpunk or star citizen or go to another planet. If you really think about it I don’t think putting mirrors on the outside is the best idea ever too and plus I really don’t know how things will stay organized. I can see this turning into cyberpunk pretty quick and other cities coping that design.
Sounds a bit like how some 40k hive cities start if a bit wird. Rich people on the spires up top everybody else gets sun lamps and poor air flow.
Richest People living in a Top of City and see the Sun Light. The poor people is living in low floor and never see the Sun or the Sky. Just building designed in 3D above your heads
A basic understanding of geometry shows how horrible the Saudi idea of building a city in a line is. You're not saving any space at all--people will be using the same square footage for their living spaces. A rectangle that is 1 km by 100 km takes up the same area as one that is 10km by 10km, but the furthest you'll have to travel to get to ANY spot in the 10 x 10 grid is just the diagonal from one corner to the other, which Pythagoras tells us is just over 14km. Whereas to go from one corner to the other on a 1 x 100 will take just over 100 km. This means that everything will necessarily be inconvenient because you can't get from one end of the city to the other easily, so better hope your job is near to your home or else you're driving for several hours. Even if you say, "Just take public transit", that public transit still has to go the entire length instead of just having routes no longer than 14 km. How's that going to help the environment again?
I'm just guessing but elevated train/rail with no turns could probably achieve pretty high rates of speed - example train in Shanghai reaching 460kph (
@@budshoot6951 but speed is not energy efficient. Time efficiency is not always the most important.
And to OPs point, so you can go 50km really fast, but is it faster than going 7km slowly?
What of you use a maglev train that holds like every 15 to 20 km and in between you make different lines with more stations? But you are absolutly right with the space in general
@@5353Jumper - Depends on your formula for energy efficiency. One bullet train carrying hundreds or thousands of pedestrians at those speeds is far more energy efficient (especially if you assume an electric model of some sort which uses sun and/or heat energy from those gigantic mirror walls) than hundreds or thousands of vehicles driving a shorter distance.
TBH - I wasn't advocating for this type of city at all, the concepts they want to achieve intrigue me but the city itself and layout - nope. I'm a 20-40 acres and a tent kind of person. I was just responding to OPs comment about making transport more time consuming or difficult which doesn't have to be the case if well planned out using a combination of high speed (for distance) and lower speed bulk transport methods with walk/bike-ability everywhere else.
@@budshoot6951 -- For public transit to be useful, it has to service passengers with stops close enough to every part of a city. I doubt anyone is going to want to walk more than 1-2km from a stop, but say there are stops every 5km. A train stopping every 5km is NOT going to reach high speeds. And if you put an express route from one end to the other, that only helps those who are at the very end of the city--they would still then have to get on OTHER trains to get to the other stations however many 5km stops that needs to be to get to their destination. Furthermore, each train line you're adding in 1) takes at least one more train to run on that track, and 2) needs a separate track for that train to run on (you can't have an express train stuck behind a train that stops every 5 km or it defeats the purpose of an express train).
Again, simple geometry shows how inefficient this is. A single rail line in the 1 x 100 grid will take 100km of rail. To make it a loop, you'd need another 100km for the return (otherwise you'd have to figure out how to get trains to pass each other). But if you have a 10km x 10km city, you could put a square of rail around the city at a radius of 7km which would use 28km of rail. You can then add, another at 5km and another at 3km and STILL only have used 57 km of rail per direction. Making a loop the other way and you're still only using 114 km of rail, saving you 86 km of rail just due to the layout. But the key is, every single part of the city would still be serviced by those lines. Obviously, I wouldn't even use trains for this since a 10km x 10km would work best with busses anyway, but the point stands. It's EASY to add public transit to a 10 x 10 grid; it's not really feasible at all to add it to a 1 x 100 grid.
"Organized in 3 dimensions"
Meanwhile the entire city itself is quite literally 1 dimensional.
Limitation of the engine, unfortunately.
There are no city builders on the market where you could recreate this remotely accurately.
@@Kr0noZ I think he meant in real life. It's one dimension as in it's vertical and that's it.
@@writershard5065 it isn't though, if it was 1 dimensional is just going up or just going to the side, it does both, it's high and long, technically it is 3 dimensional because it does have width to it too but it's pretty negligible
I see what you did in there
the "line" sounds very distopian. like on the outside looks great but you know that the bottom will be slums and the top that gets daylight will be for the wealthy.
Also I could see this being built in multiple sidebyside lines. people stacked ontop of each other.. condensed.
also this is all riding on the Saudi's oil money that is running out. so...
The plan is to have infrastructure and transportation of goods at the bottom (that's why you can get from one end of the city to the other in 20 minutes). I'd suggest reading the actual design documents.
@@TheRealXartaX you cannot guarantee the docs will be followed. you can guarantee that humans will follow their base impulse: infinite undying hatred for other people
@@nathansmith5738 Of course not, but you can say that about literally anything.
It doesn't even look good in my opinion, it's just some insane distopian bullshit money sink
@@TheRealXartaX Though I wonder how they'd get from end to end in 20 minutes. 170km + all the time spent on acceleration and deceleration.
Love how you can just market something as "Green" or "Eco-friendly" and everyone is up for it instantly
Nobody is up for it, whoever planned and approved this project in Saudi Arabia is high off cocaine bought with oil money
Yh a line which spans km in the Saudi Arabian climate protected by a THICK wall of glass seems pretty cool
I saw that Line commercial and immediately thought "cool new cyberpunk hellscape you're building there"
It's gonna be the setting of my next shadowrun game.
If nothing else, it'd be a cool place to play some Paintball or Airsoft or something. Using the whole city and such.
I really expected a meteor shower at the end there, can't imagine why that would be.
Country Roads, take me home
My first thought is, why isn't their city a circle? 170 KM from one side to the other is a long ass ways. If it were a circle 50% of the possible routes would be reduced by more than 50% travel distance, that's the greenest thing i've heard of all day
They're Oil barons, they have more money than brains. See: Burj Khalifa
And while we are at it, lets also use the empty inner circle that gets created after end-joining.
Oh wait, that's how most traditional cities are?
@@GunjanBagayatkar naah not sci fi enough
ITS litterally a waste of space as well as a city surrounded by glass in SAUDI ARABIA its not going to do well for the environment OR the people
Yes, and where living spaces will be on the edge of the circle, transport ways will be mostly inside the circle. Sejon South Korea is built like that.
What the advertisement didn’t say about The Line project is that the city itself is multi-layered: below the city itself is where all the traffic, utilities, and I think the industrial aspects are going to be in its own layer underground. Despite how nice looking they’re trying to make it look, it just screams Dystopic Cyberpunk Nightmare.
Kibitz, I recommend using vanilla floodwalls instead of the fence, because they are massive and have steep edges. That will certainly keep others out.
^this^
The Edge of maximum security.
that Saudi Arabian new city idea seems great(ish) but what happens when thing like disease, fire, and various other natural hazards it will just turn into a clogged can of death and destruction.
But you can die with style.
Idk, i think it doesn't even sound great, i mean vertical integration is good, but why built a slim long line city, it's just stupid, why line, why not a box at least
Also how tf are you gonna get food and water to each end of the city and get the rubbish out?
@@kiwigaming09 just dumb it under the wall, perfect cyberpunk dystopia ;)
"The LINE" sounds more like the title of a Dystopian Sci-fi thriller OTT series set in near future than an actual city project tbf.
It's a shame you can't make The Edge in a desert with a giant magnifying glass on all sides to cook everyone who lives there.
The Line is clearly inspired in those megawalls separating utopia cities from wastelands in dystopian movies
or is it backwards?
Imagine the noise pollution from living next to a **cough** THE transport line. Assuming they use open planning outside of homes for aesthetic (kinda like how you can look up in a shopping center and see people on other floors walking about) the already unbearable noise pollution would echo like hell.
In conclusion: as a certified Brit I do not approve of this line.
"the line" will never have a trash collection problem, because it can just dump all the trash right next to the long line, and it just will be outside of "the way". there is no problem !!!!!
This was an absolutely wild way to call out The Line for what it really is
i feel like it's more like a walled garden to keep the poor people in, not out. It's much easier to control people when you have them trapped in a place than having them trapped outside a place.
I'm continually watching this video and thinking that your city design preferences would fit very well in the mega cities of Dredd.
Builds school on top of the landfill.
"They're Kids Right? What are they going to do? Vote?"
😂
That was really funny
I can’t put into words how much I hated hearing about the line vs equally how much I lost it when Kibitz said “they’re kids, what are they gonna do, vote?”
UA-camrs don’t understand how most 20 year old voters are children in legal bodies.
10/10 stars i live in this city, would recommend our great leader is so amazing 🤭❤️
Make like the most secure area that looks like heaven for the 5 richest in the entire city
This is basically gonna be the underground in Stray.
I finished that yesterday and this is exactly what came to mind
Back in 1990 I had the idea of a single structure city, but it was disk shaped. And it had multi floor farm sectors.
ImKibitz: *TAKES NOTES AGRESSIVLEY*
that concept has existed for decades. It's called an archology, and we are close to having the technology to actually build one. Check out Isaac Arthur's channel on what they would be like in practice. Only things we really need to solve to actually build one is energy and heat dissipation.
@@spamfilter32 Well 1990 is decades ago. With the ones I written about, it used a few different things for power. Wind turbine tubes, thermal cores, And solar hull, just to name a few. However the ones in my books, we not close at all with making structures that big.
i already feel sorry for the people who'll have to live there
“Have” to live there?
The line sounds like a plot to a horror movie. Can't wait to watch this one.
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That "Line" city looks like hell.
I like how at the end you got rid of the worker commune and workers presumably turning them into soylent green. Matches with this dystopian city nightmare glossed up as "green and good"
>world class education
*camera pans over a "Community School"*
the brilliance of the logo for The Edge. the way the words are literally past the edge of the line. off the edge. dangling. precariously.
"The Line" makes me think Mirror's Edge, but far more shitty where the inhuman leaders rule above the poor and hunter drones remove the undesirables that dared to think with their forebrains. Picture "perfect" Dystopia, really :/
saudi arabia will just use migrant workers
Freerunner paradise, Hellscape otherwise
This line city idea is as smart as 5k passangers, nuclear powered hotel airplane.
Fun fact the plane would need to get all 5k people out of the plane in 60 seconds if a emergency happens and well like that would ever happen
That nuclear powered airplane was just a worldbuilding project on reddit tho
Thanks, now we need a mod that introduces REALLY BIG mirrors... x)
Find a mirror asset, and use Procedural Objects mod. Problem solved.
It was really nice of @TotalXclipse to narrate the commercial for The Edge :P
You sounded like Zoolander in that commercial, especially when you said "like 20 trees". That was perfect.
I'm still kind of hoping that the commercial for The Line was actually some odd advertising for an upcoming dystopian sci-fi show. I'm sure I'll be disappointed.
Double wall with a no go zone in between
Kibitz sure knows well about the Berlin wall
Bro, that ad at the end for the city. "Join us in our beautiful city and start living on the Edge." That sold me, how much is rent in one of those fine homes?
Deus Ex: *Exists*
Saudi Arabia: *Plays Deus Ex*
Saudi Arabia: HOLD MY BEER.
What really sells me is how he did the commercial without showing the “workers commune” section
Gotta love a city design where diversions aren't possible; an entire city worth of people stuck in place every time there's any maintenence work to be done :)
Great for limiting both physical and economic mobility.
kibitz youre content is concerning but i cant stop watching :sob:
What are they gonna do? Vote?
What a powerful line.
Loved your "commercial" lol
I'm a new fan going through the archive. This is your best video. Thanks for saying what you did. Respect
Kibz
You missed the biggest most obviousest part of a future dystopia city
Why did you do trams and not a monorail?
I liked and am interacting because you said the ad took way too long 😂
I'd like to see a video trying to make The Line, but actually make it nice. Unrealistic, I know, but Kibs is up to the task!
Sound straight out of south park xD awesome !
The sarcasm of this video is spot on
"the edge is also net zero carbon emission"
*Shows literal forest outside the city😂😂
Kibitz, I have been following you for a couple of years and at this very moment, I have learned something new from you even though that project is literally the most stupid thing I have ever seen but thanks for informing.
Next to the edge in the other square you should make a city like one side of Gotham. Mostly industrial with low res in middle
I only wish that you somehow jacked up the land values somehow to get some proper high rise buildings going for that true enclosed feel
“Yeah, lets put this dumpster here in this school. They’re kids, what are they gonna do? Vote?”
Kibitz, Im -2021
So you basically builded a giant-sized gated community
I love the detail on the final "E" on "EDGE" is not underlined 😂
Thank you! I’ve been dying to see someone try it!!
Made my day great 😁
Excellent. Watched and Subscribed.
Oh brilliant! Loved your add way more than that nonsense rendering of the line lol
that add was beautiful. well, i’m packing my bags.
Oh the one with 9 million neighbors within 20 minutes
Because of that ad I really would like to live in the EDGE.
Finally another video!
It’s funny how I saw the ad for “the Line” when it interrupted me watching this video
Nice. Only thing I think is missing is guard towers spread periodically throughout the no zone.
Love the ad! You missed your calling... Deceptive marketing!
This actually looked sick!
OMG!!! I laughed so hard I got dizzy!!!
Well done good sir! I tip my hat to too with a chefs kiss!!!
The commercial part was awesome.
"The Line" will be organized in 3 dimensions. Let that sink in.
the ad at the tho it was mocking but yet sounded kinda legit
"The Line" reminds me of the Utulek Complex, a.k.a. Golem City, from Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. Awesome in concept, very intricate 3D organization, but an utter nightmare in reality.
Making the commercial before the slums was a brilliant choice
So the ad I saw said it was going to be 800m wide and 500m tall. It made it sound like a type of recursive arcology where you wouldn't need to travel very far from your home to get to your basic needs. That multiple tram and train systems at multiple elevations would take care of commuting. Made it sound like there wouldn't be many roads, if any.
Sure, if money wasn't a problem, it'd be okay. But as rich as the Saudis are, the money they're allocating for what would be the next wonder of the world is ridiculously low.
I got a ad for the line as I watching him make the line
RE: Neom and trash collection. If the city ever gets built (and that's a big "if"), they'll probably do what Dubai does and ship their waste away from the city in trucks.
Ahah😄, great job, you are genius!
ROTFL!!! "Whut'r they gunna do...vote??"
Weird that everyone is just now hearing about this planned city...
Hardly a surprise, they made a multilingual commercial for it which blew up a couple days ago and now a whole lot of "urbanist" youtube channels are making videos on it.
Haha great! But you missed the opportunity of calling it the pit and make underground
The wall city looks like it would be expensive just in maintenance alone due to the wind causing damage. Not to mention all the other things that come with a city. It seems to be very tall and pretty slim, not a good combo for resisting wind.
nice this was almost an adam something video
“What are the kids gonna do, vote?”
Saudi Monarchy: what is this ‘voting’ you speak of?
Great work.
Proof that money can't buy institutional knowledge
You designed a worst city that I would copy it and remake it better :v
I liked this video so much I interacted with it by commenting.
LOve your buidlings. DO you have a mod list?
Considering the burj khalifa dosen't even have sewer access they dont seem to concerned about waste management.
lol cant wait for the apologie video XD
Kibz you got me at torturing your civs. That's an automatic like lol
And if you try an escape lmao, well you wont. The mirrors will smelt you if you disobey. Good luck on the new reset around the corner, "you wont own anything but youll be happy."
The high school(4:45) looks just like a school named Avenues in NYC😂
Best commercial ever
the city entry looks like the new jersy turnpike
CitywalkCitywall should take a crack at it
With a name like The Edge you should have gotten Bono to be the spokesperson.