***Spoilers Below*** I really loved this adaptation of the story and the only two things I would have changed about it were: The ending (and how they found out who the killer was) I thought they were setting that ending up perfectly with the beginning and then it didn't. And the second thing I would change is I would have had the crimes the ten are accused of be more faithful to the book. Meaning: Have the General not kill the lover but instead send him off to his certain doom. Have the servants withhold the medication, etc. Basically, it makes them feel...less...evil, in my mind. Sure, in this one, you see them being sometimes vicious killers but I always enjoyed the idea of these people don't think they are guilty. They can explain away their actions as not their fault (Emily Brent) but by the conclusion of the novel, each crime has been avenged. I'm just so glad to see this one end the way it does, as the great author originally intended. My favorite Agatha Christie novel and Mystery of all time!
I just watched it and I was so impressed! I agree with your 9 out of 10! Never read the book, so was happy for the fresh story. I may watch it a second time. Great review, thanks!
Thank you so much for watching! Glad you enjoyed it. I definitely recommend the book. As great as the miniseries is, the book just went a little deeper and was that little bit more chilling. Cheers!
The little n-words is my favorite book ever too. I totally agree with you about the ending in this film. They thought they could improve Christie. That's impossible. Nothing can compare to her elegant, one of a kind, brilliant resolution for this masterpiece. Vera had to hang herself in loneliness. That little conversation with the judge was dull and silly. Not knowing who did it or what happened for one additional chapter after her death was a big part of the thrill for me. That was the only thumb down for this film. I forgive the other minor additions to the story.
montecarlostar Great to hear from a fellow fan! While this adaptation wasn't quite perfect I definitely felt it was the most faithful one we've had so far. But nothing will ever come close to the book. That ending was so beautifully dark and haunting!
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen I agree, this is as good as it gets in terms of film adaptations! The Russian version comes second IMO, but I have no idea why they won't shoot the ending as it was in the book! BTW I enjoyed your review, you got a new subscriber!
montecarlostar I could never figure out why they wouldn't use the book ending. Maybe because it was too depressing? But I personally love endings like that just to balance out all the happy endings we usually get. And thank you! My videos have definitely improved since these earlier ones where I didn't really know what I was doing, haha.
I'm one year late to the party but.... It bothered me how wargrave wanted to create the perfect unsolvable murder mystery - only to reveal it in a confession to the police via the letter in the bottle Here, only we, the audience, find out - and Vera, who dies of course What I also like is that it's not a suicide. She put the rope around her neck, but he took the stool from her feet Until the very end, the judge remained in power and control over his victims, even his final victim He decided here whether she would live or die, he found out here that she was even more despicable than he figured out before - she literally tells him that the cops believed her the last time, sounding even proud that she got away It's wargraves final judgment, one in contrast with him as his official role of judge He witnessed all the hangings of the sentenced, he was basically the one that killed them (for their crimes) It's only fitting for his last victim to be executed in the same way And he won't have to confess to the entire thing except a doomed person and an audience out of reach, no one in their time and place will find out
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen that ending chat on the dangling chair was aggravating. Her ending would have been easy to film. But even in the BOOK I wish there was a brief chapter before the epilogue detailing the discovery of the bodies and an initial reaction to that.
I loved the book and I loved the adaptation. If you read the book you would know that one of them is injected with cyanide (six little solider boys playing with a hive. A bumble stung one and then there were five) but in the adaptation they are stabbed in the neck with a wooden knitting thing (I forgot what its called) it would of been better if they did it like Agatha Christie wrote it. But I still like how they added a dark twist to it.
i think one reason they changed the ending was wargrave reading a letter on his crime wouldnt translate to different medium so they did a different way for him to explain. Although the rurssian keeps the version the same just shows wargave shows up at end and explain.
And Then There Were None was my favorite book for years. Found it on when I was 8 visiting my grandmother. It was one of the few English language books in the local book shop and I had run out of reading material. Very good find!
I love the debauchery scene as well, despite knowing that it wasn't in the novel. I found it odd that the screenwriter took Lombard's racism and anti-Semitism and transfered it to Blore and Miss Brent.
Probably because they wanted him to be more of a “good guy”. The anti-semitism being transferred to Ms. Brent is actually better, in my opinion, giving she’s the fanatic
I agree with you about the nursery rhyme at the beginning of each chapter, it was really impressive to me. It was like a reminder for reader about how many people were dead, thinking about who would be the next one, and how the next one would die. Anyway, the series was above my expectation and the soldier island was like coming from my imagination. Perfect!
Great review, my all time favourite book, it's a sublime, faithful adaptation. It's bleak and claustrophobic. I spent years wishing they'd make it, and along came this masterpiece. I can't help it I adore the version with Reed and Elke Sommer.
They really nailed the crucial elements of the story in this miniseries! It's cool to know that I'm not the only one who regards the book so highly and we were so lucky that someone came along and did it justice.
@@danjensenmovietalk can I ask how you feel about the follow ups? I know that Phelps has tinkered about with the texts, but I have loved them all, perhaps with the exception of The Pale Horse. Witness I found equally as good as ATTWN. I am excited to find someone so passionate about this masterpiece.
Wow, didn't know you made an review of this 😃 Recently saw this miniseries and loved it. It has been years since I read it, but seeing it like this makes me realise its more of a slasher than a crime novel.
Hello! Yep, and it's the most watched video on my channel, haha. I wasn't actually going to review it at first because it's not a movie, but I love the story so much that I just had to. And ever since I first read the novel, I thought it was a horror story, so I'm glad they made it with that in mind. I hope you're doing well and life is great!
I'd love to know your thoughts on the changes to Blore's character in particular-- he's very different from the book, and yet I thought it worked really well, and was very compelling. But while I came to the miniseries as a general Christie fan, I didn't come to it with a particular attachment to ATTWN. I'm interested to know what book fans think of that change and how well it worked for different people.
Anne Marsh I'm one of those people who realizes there's a difference between literature and film, and I always try not to be too precious about changes to things. So I agree, I thought the changes worked just fine in the context of the series. As did the other few changes they took liberties with. I think as long as changes are made that don't divert too drastically from the source material it usually turns out okay.
I thought it was a great production too. I watched it cause I am a fan of Aiden, and had not read the book before. So coming from not knowing what the poem was at all, i wished that they had read ahead of the deaths, but that would only be the only criticism
If you ever get a chance, I highly recommend the book. As good as this mini-series was, nothing will ever quite top how incredibly well crafted the original story was. I knew someone once who had to sleep with the light on one night after reading it, it's so chilling.
I’ll be talking about this movie in my next presentation i’m so excited but nervous at the same time since it’d be my first time😭 thank you for this review it helped me alot with wording my thoughts better on the movie!!
why is this tv series not even popular. its soo great. If someone search for murder mystery tv series, no one will still find this getting recommended. what the hell
@@danjensenmovietalk dan your review is the only one which comes whereas other lowkey series gets huge support from whole lot of youtubers. Thanks for recommending this series 🙏
I watched this not too long ago and also really liked it. Definitely, of all the adaptations I've seen, this is the truest to the book, in structure, tension, and characters. I do have a problem with the script: the guests are all declared guilty of crimes which they were able to escape because of ambiguity, lack of evidence, or lack of reason to suspect them. Several of the crimes in the miniseries are pretty point-blank and undoubted, and I would have preferred the original methods or for the enactment of the crime to be somehow not provable, as in the novel. Charles Dance is wonderful, as always, and Maeve Dermody was excellent, especially at showing us what she was before the crucial act, and what she is now.
Haven't seen this version, but I'm astonished anyone got a miniseries out of it. It's a short book. Drrrraaaging out everyone's backstory is really not necessary.
I guess that's a matter of opinion. I found the telling of everyone's backstories in this compelling enough. And at only two episodes, it was more like a long movie than a miniseries, despite it technically being the latter. I'd recommend watching it before criticising it too much.
@@danjensenmovietalk Thanks for the swift reply! Imdb says three episodes: www.imdb.com/title/tt3581932/ -- maybe there were different cuts shown in different areas. To me, it's a perfect suspense story: being trapped on an island with 9, er, make that 8 strangers, and an invisible killer getting closer and closer, and the pace never letting up. The book told me the exact amount I wanted to know about everyone's character and motivations. It sounds like the series had a different approach (especially with all those great actors to use), but for maximum tension, I'd like to see it about 2 hours. So I'm saying there may be room for you to make the perfect version. ;)
i watched the show and loved it i'm searching for other like it like the ABC Murderers and the murder on the orient express but didn't find any one like it
Several in that series of adaptions have been great. Ordeal By Innocence and The Witness for the Prosecution are also particularly outstanding. Obviously Witness for the Prosecution also has a famous adaption by Billy Wilder but I'd take the Beeb version over it (the Beeb version is based on the original short story rather than the later play). While it's much more in the vein of her 'master detective' stories I think Evil Under the Sun has some of the dark overtones and horror of And Then there Were None. Both the Ustinov and Suchet versions of it are excellent. Towards Zero is another of her books that could probablybenefit from this kind of production. There's a Marple version of it that's enjoyable enough but it probably deserves a more serious adaption.
I recently watched the BBC series. And from what I can recall, there were no live scenes in the book right? Correct me if I'm wrong. But I love the cinematography of the BBC series. It's beautifully made.
Oh, right! Haha. That's correct, it wasn't in the book. But as much as I don't like when things get changed for film and TV, I just felt the inclusion of that just somehow felt right for the miniseries. I was actually okay with it.
@@danjensenmovietalk I also have no problem with it. I know it's needed to be appealing in the Western market. I was just trying to recall what I've read in the book before. Thanks!
It’s one of the better adaptations, but not the best. I still prefer the 1945 one and the Russian version over this one. The debauchery scene didn’t work. If you were being hunted and stalked, the last thing you’d do is get wasted with someone you know is trying to kill you.
It's all subjective. I preferred this version because it was more faithful to the source material. And as for the debauchery scene, being that I've never been hunted or stalked by a killer, I can't possibly say how I'd act. But I don't think squeezing the most out of the short time I had left would be entirely improbable.
The only thing I think could have been better is the casting. For example, Aidan Turner is much too hot to be Lombard. Lombard wasn’t supposed to be particularly hot.
glad i'm not alone in my admiration of Then there were none series....great review!!! Have you seen Russian version? It's true to book including the ending.
Have you seen the Soviet film adaptation? In not, you should. If yes, I'm a bit astonished you think so little of it. I think the ending of the miniseries was far more dramatic than that in the book. The book had a literary ending, meant and perfectly designed to be read. The miniseries had an end that was dramatic, meant and perfectly designed to be seen and heard. I remain disappointed that the racism which was and is a theme in the book once again ended up erased. It should have been "Ten LIttle Indians" and I truly think the characters--these comfortable white men and women--should have mentioned they had started to feel like the Indians of the poem, i.e. like the natives one of them murdered so callously (and enjoyed some support from his fellow targets for having done so).
Hang on a minute, I have seen Desyat Negrityat and thought it was very good. Easily my second favourite adaptation out of the ones I've seen. Not sure why you'd say I think little of it 🤔
@@danjensenmovietalk By default you made all the other film versions seemingly negative by default. Which would be fair enough. Most of them are well-crafted but ultimately mediocre. But yeah, I think this BBC and the Russian versions are excellent. I am a playwright and would LEAP at the chance to adapt this novel myself. For one thing, I would mention something about the times in which it appeared--the late 1930s as WWII loomed and Hitler had begun murdering Jews as well as other racial minorities. I mean, that is part of the book! Its original context! But I digress...
Gotcha. Keep in mind, this review is five years old and a lot has happened since then, including checking out the Russian version which was indeed great. Personally, I thought the mini-series was better directed and acted and benefited from the longer run time to flesh out the characters a little more, but I respected the Russian version for staying true to the novel 😊
Booger Man And like all other films it's subjective. Some people consider Se7en a horror film, others consider it a thriller, and some a detective movie. To me ATTWN is definitely a mystery, but I also thought it was the scariest book I ever read and saw a lot of horror elements in it.
Rene clairs film version in 1945 with Barry Fitzgerald is beyond a shadow of a doubt the best adaptation of this book. It’s on UA-cam watch it . Highly highly recommend it . Characters are brilliantly done
I do agree it's good, but I didn't like that they changed the ending so much, as well as some of the character names. That's why I felt this recent version was a better adaptation - it adhered more closely to the source material that I love so much.
The 1945 version really sucks ! The last remaining two little indians neutralise the killer and riide happily into the sunset, in the most superficial ending, Hollywood style ! Agatha Christie's greatness in this novel was to imagine a puzzle with 10 bodies, no killer and the impossibility to figure out who was the last person alive on that secluded island.
OK So I won't give anything away but here is a ? I have and I have never read the book: How could any one know of all the crimes each has committed? For example how could the person(s) behind it all know about Vera's crime? And I am not being more specific to avoid being a spoiler but that seems to me a flaw unless I missed something since only Vera knew what she had done.
The killer met her former fiance who told him about her when drunk. Afterwards he investigated the incident to see if there was any substance to his allegations.
Just watched it and I must say it was great! I've read the book at least 4 times since I really love the atmosphere and pace. I also watched the 1945 version and I really don't get the love it gets.. The ending was terrible and totally disrespected the source. This version was great and the cast was great! Some changes I disliked and some really fit, just like you said. In my opinion, this was really a fair adaptation to the book and a good mystery mini-series for those who haven't read it.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it as much as I did! It's about time someone did the book justice as I could never understand why it was so difficult to just stick to the details.
@@danjensenmovietalk yes! Indeed a great book that works really well. Following the formula is a pure guarantee for success, which this adaptation nailed in my opinion. Acting and exposition were on point and made sense. I only wish they didn't tweak the crimes the characters originally committed, but I realize they would be more difficult to portray and would require more time in their original form. Overall a solid, well executed adaptation, featuring beloved stars of mine.
They could, but I'm glad they kept the original time and setting for this version. Would be interesting to see a decent modernised version, though. Maybe a sci-fi on a space station?
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen that could be quite interesting. I have seen about every version of the movie I could find. The one in the 40s one on the 70s and I want to say one in that 60, and of course this one. Got interested after the computer game version that came out in like 2005 that came with a book copy.
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen very much. It’s kinda dated now graphics wise, and the voice acting isn’t the best but I loved it. I was like 10 when it came out, so it’s more of a childhood memory for me. There’s some good playthoughs on UA-cam of it as well.
Yup. That was the original title. I even have a couple of copies of the book with that original title on them. It's weird to think there was a time when that was acceptable.
@@danjensenmovietalk I mean, I still remember a licorice brand here in Italy with a man in blackface doing the Tv spot. During the '90s. Nowadays these things would be seen as absurd. Btw I really liked the review of the BBC miniseries. Never read the book (I knew the gist of it by reading the book cover once some 20+ years ago) but I really loved the adaptation and I just rewatched it yesterday. I'm looking forward to watching the Pale Horse adaptation and Ordeal by Innocence.
This BBC version was definitely the most accurate screen version so far. But if you ever get a chance to read the book, I can't recommend it enough. It's so chilling! The miniseries did a great job at almost capturing the sense of dread that the book conveyed, but didn't quite hit that mark.
Oh, wow!!! Well, congratulations on getting to be a part of something so great! You should be proud of your contribution, no matter how small the role.
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen I have read the book, in fact I have read every single Agatha Christie novel and short story. In no place in the novel does that absolute farce at the end happen. If you have read the book yourself you oiled realise that a letter was left to be found explaining how the murders were committed and the reason behind them. There are so many completely over the top farces in this adaption that do not appear at all in the novel and this production was a complete farce. If you have read the novel, then I suggest you read it again to mark all the inaccuracies that appeared in this production. The Russian version is faithful yo the book and the version stein the Persian desert is faithful to the play that Agatha Christie herself adapted from the novel; the only difference with it being transferred from location on the island.
I've read it enough times to know it's not set in the desert and everyone dies in the end, hence why the miniseries is closer to the source material. But by all means, please try and continue arguing using utter nonsense. This is fun 😊
I loved this adaptation, they definitely captured an amazing atmosphere and the look of it was so detailed. Great review :)
Thank you so much! Glad you liked it as much as I did. It really did feel authentic.
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I really loved this adaptation of the story and the only two things I would have changed about it were: The ending (and how they found out who the killer was) I thought they were setting that ending up perfectly with the beginning and then it didn't. And the second thing I would change is I would have had the crimes the ten are accused of be more faithful to the book. Meaning: Have the General not kill the lover but instead send him off to his certain doom. Have the servants withhold the medication, etc. Basically, it makes them feel...less...evil, in my mind. Sure, in this one, you see them being sometimes vicious killers but I always enjoyed the idea of these people don't think they are guilty. They can explain away their actions as not their fault (Emily Brent) but by the conclusion of the novel, each crime has been avenged.
I'm just so glad to see this one end the way it does, as the great author originally intended. My favorite Agatha Christie novel and Mystery of all time!
I'm happy to hear it's so good! It's one of my favorite books as well and I'm really looking forward to checking out this adaptation.
Owella Fehr I really don't think you'll be disappointed and make sure you let me know what you think!
This is waaaay late but I did watch it and I loved it!!!
I just watched it and I was so impressed! I agree with your 9 out of 10! Never read the book, so was happy for the fresh story. I may watch it a second time. Great review, thanks!
Thank you so much for watching! Glad you enjoyed it. I definitely recommend the book. As great as the miniseries is, the book just went a little deeper and was that little bit more chilling. Cheers!
The little n-words is my favorite book ever too. I totally agree with you about the ending in this film. They thought they could improve Christie. That's impossible. Nothing can compare to her elegant, one of a kind, brilliant resolution for this masterpiece. Vera had to hang herself in loneliness. That little conversation with the judge was dull and silly. Not knowing who did it or what happened for one additional chapter after her death was a big part of the thrill for me. That was the only thumb down for this film. I forgive the other minor additions to the story.
montecarlostar Great to hear from a fellow fan! While this adaptation wasn't quite perfect I definitely felt it was the most faithful one we've had so far. But nothing will ever come close to the book. That ending was so beautifully dark and haunting!
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen I agree, this is as good as it gets in terms of film adaptations! The Russian version comes second IMO, but I have no idea why they won't shoot the ending as it was in the book!
BTW I enjoyed your review, you got a new subscriber!
montecarlostar I could never figure out why they wouldn't use the book ending. Maybe because it was too depressing? But I personally love endings like that just to balance out all the happy endings we usually get.
And thank you! My videos have definitely improved since these earlier ones where I didn't really know what I was doing, haha.
I'm one year late to the party but....
It bothered me how wargrave wanted to create the perfect unsolvable murder mystery - only to reveal it in a confession to the police via the letter in the bottle
Here, only we, the audience, find out - and Vera, who dies of course
What I also like is that it's not a suicide. She put the rope around her neck, but he took the stool from her feet
Until the very end, the judge remained in power and control over his victims, even his final victim
He decided here whether she would live or die, he found out here that she was even more despicable than he figured out before - she literally tells him that the cops believed her the last time, sounding even proud that she got away
It's wargraves final judgment, one in contrast with him as his official role of judge
He witnessed all the hangings of the sentenced, he was basically the one that killed them (for their crimes)
It's only fitting for his last victim to be executed in the same way
And he won't have to confess to the entire thing except a doomed person and an audience out of reach, no one in their time and place will find out
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen that ending chat on the dangling chair was aggravating. Her ending would have been easy to film. But even in the BOOK I wish there was a brief chapter before the epilogue detailing the discovery of the bodies and an initial reaction to that.
Loved this when it was on last Christmas, glad viewers outside the UK got ot see it too!
Absolutely! I'm so in love with the book and this adaptation really did it justice.
I loved the book and I loved the adaptation. If you read the book you would know that one of them is injected with cyanide (six little solider boys playing with a hive. A bumble stung one and then there were five) but in the adaptation they are stabbed in the neck with a wooden knitting thing (I forgot what its called) it would of been better if they did it like Agatha Christie wrote it. But I still like how they added a dark twist to it.
Thomas and James I agree. Not sure why they made small changes like that but overall it was the most accurate adaptation we've seen yet.
i think one reason they changed the ending was wargrave reading a letter on his crime wouldnt translate to different medium so they did a different way for him to explain. Although the rurssian keeps the version the same just shows wargave shows up at end and explain.
And Then There Were None was my favorite book for years. Found it on when I was 8 visiting my grandmother. It was one of the few English language books in the local book shop and I had run out of reading material. Very good find!
I love the debauchery scene as well, despite knowing that it wasn't in the novel.
I found it odd that the screenwriter took Lombard's racism and anti-Semitism and transfered it to Blore and Miss Brent.
Dee Rush Good point. Probably wasn't any real reason for doing so, I wonder why.
Probably because they wanted to make him a bit more sexy and those things are a bit off putting!
Yes- I did think miss Brent would have been better if she'd been left as a sort of ultra virtuous woman who just had these huge moral blinkers on.
Probably because they wanted him to be more of a “good guy”. The anti-semitism being transferred to Ms. Brent is actually better, in my opinion, giving she’s the fanatic
And i'm happy that it is changed into a movie
I agree with you about the nursery rhyme at the beginning of each chapter, it was really impressive to me. It was like a reminder for reader about how many people were dead, thinking about who would be the next one, and how the next one would die. Anyway, the series was above my expectation and the soldier island was like coming from my imagination. Perfect!
So glad you enjoyed it, too!
Great review, my all time favourite book, it's a sublime, faithful adaptation. It's bleak and claustrophobic. I spent years wishing they'd make it, and along came this masterpiece. I can't help it I adore the version with Reed and Elke Sommer.
They really nailed the crucial elements of the story in this miniseries! It's cool to know that I'm not the only one who regards the book so highly and we were so lucky that someone came along and did it justice.
@@danjensenmovietalk can I ask how you feel about the follow ups? I know that Phelps has tinkered about with the texts, but I have loved them all, perhaps with the exception of The Pale Horse. Witness I found equally as good as ATTWN. I am excited to find someone so passionate about this masterpiece.
Wow, didn't know you made an review of this 😃 Recently saw this miniseries and loved it. It has been years since I read it, but seeing it like this makes me realise its more of a slasher than a crime novel.
Hello! Yep, and it's the most watched video on my channel, haha. I wasn't actually going to review it at first because it's not a movie, but I love the story so much that I just had to. And ever since I first read the novel, I thought it was a horror story, so I'm glad they made it with that in mind.
I hope you're doing well and life is great!
I'd love to know your thoughts on the changes to Blore's character in particular-- he's very different from the book, and yet I thought it worked really well, and was very compelling. But while I came to the miniseries as a general Christie fan, I didn't come to it with a particular attachment to ATTWN. I'm interested to know what book fans think of that change and how well it worked for different people.
Anne Marsh I'm one of those people who realizes there's a difference between literature and film, and I always try not to be too precious about changes to things. So I agree, I thought the changes worked just fine in the context of the series. As did the other few changes they took liberties with. I think as long as changes are made that don't divert too drastically from the source material it usually turns out okay.
Subscribed! Great review, great miniseries, Charles Dance was amazing as was Maeve Dermody. They did a great job of capturing the era.
Dave York Thank you for your kind words! Such brilliant casting in this series and the tension was captured superbly. Were you a fan of the book, too?
Yes, I have been a rabid fan of everything Christie for eons ;)
Totally agree with you about the poem.
Still, at least the rest of it was such a top quality production it was easy enough to overlook.
I thought it was a great production too. I watched it cause I am a fan of Aiden, and had not read the book before. So coming from not knowing what the poem was at all, i wished that they had read ahead of the deaths, but that would only be the only criticism
If you ever get a chance, I highly recommend the book. As good as this mini-series was, nothing will ever quite top how incredibly well crafted the original story was. I knew someone once who had to sleep with the light on one night after reading it, it's so chilling.
Ive just downloaded it to read 👍
As someone who loves the original film, it's nice to know there is a reboot.
Watched it yesterday and absolutely loved it!! Thanks for the review
The cast is unbelievable, it's virtually The Avengers of acting.
I’ll be talking about this movie in my next presentation i’m so excited but nervous at the same time since it’d be my first time😭 thank you for this review it helped me alot with wording my thoughts better on the movie!!
So glad I could help! And best of luck with the presentation. I'm sure you're gonna do great 😊
READ IT when i was 8 same ending
why is this tv series not even popular. its soo great. If someone search for murder mystery tv series, no one will still find this getting recommended. what the hell
I dunno, this video is the most popular one on my channel in terms of views and comments. It seems to me quite a few people enjoyed the series :)
@@danjensenmovietalk dan your review is the only one which comes whereas other lowkey series gets huge support from whole lot of youtubers. Thanks for recommending this series 🙏
I watched this not too long ago and also really liked it. Definitely, of all the adaptations I've seen, this is the truest to the book, in structure, tension, and characters. I do have a problem with the script: the guests are all declared guilty of crimes which they were able to escape because of ambiguity, lack of evidence, or lack of reason to suspect them. Several of the crimes in the miniseries are pretty point-blank and undoubted, and I would have preferred the original methods or for the enactment of the crime to be somehow not provable, as in the novel. Charles Dance is wonderful, as always, and Maeve Dermody was excellent, especially at showing us what she was before the crucial act, and what she is now.
ok ... this sounds really excellent ... we're in !!!
You won't be disappointed :)
not only did i enjoy the review i also didnt gt bored..thnx..subscribed
Mr. Who Yay! Thanks for the feedback :)
I like the book
Haven't seen this version, but I'm astonished anyone got a miniseries out of it. It's a short book. Drrrraaaging out everyone's backstory is really not necessary.
I guess that's a matter of opinion. I found the telling of everyone's backstories in this compelling enough. And at only two episodes, it was more like a long movie than a miniseries, despite it technically being the latter. I'd recommend watching it before criticising it too much.
@@danjensenmovietalk Thanks for the swift reply! Imdb says three episodes: www.imdb.com/title/tt3581932/ -- maybe there were different cuts shown in different areas.
To me, it's a perfect suspense story: being trapped on an island with 9, er, make that 8 strangers, and an invisible killer getting closer and closer, and the pace never letting up. The book told me the exact amount I wanted to know about everyone's character and motivations. It sounds like the series had a different approach (especially with all those great actors to use), but for maximum tension, I'd like to see it about 2 hours.
So I'm saying there may be room for you to make the perfect version. ;)
i watched the show and loved it i'm searching for other like it like the ABC Murderers and the murder on the orient express but didn't find any one like it
Glad to hear you enjoyed it and good luck with your search!
Several in that series of adaptions have been great. Ordeal By Innocence and The Witness for the Prosecution are also particularly outstanding. Obviously Witness for the Prosecution also has a famous adaption by Billy Wilder but I'd take the Beeb version over it (the Beeb version is based on the original short story rather than the later play).
While it's much more in the vein of her 'master detective' stories I think Evil Under the Sun has some of the dark overtones and horror of And Then there Were None. Both the Ustinov and Suchet versions of it are excellent.
Towards Zero is another of her books that could probablybenefit from this kind of production. There's a Marple version of it that's enjoyable enough but it probably deserves a more serious adaption.
Have you seen the 1987 Russian version? It’s excellent and the 2015 miniseries took some cues from it.
I actually read that hard cover comic in 2021
My mum has a copy with the ten little n words title it has a fishead on a orange backround
Oh, cool! I have one with the fish head on a white background. I didn't realise there were other colour versions.
I recently watched the BBC series. And from what I can recall, there were no live scenes in the book right? Correct me if I'm wrong. But I love the cinematography of the BBC series. It's beautifully made.
Sorry, I'm not quite sure by what you mean by live scenes.
@@danjensenmovietalk Oh sorry wrong spelling. Love scenes I mean. Like between Lombard and Vera
Oh, right! Haha. That's correct, it wasn't in the book. But as much as I don't like when things get changed for film and TV, I just felt the inclusion of that just somehow felt right for the miniseries. I was actually okay with it.
@@danjensenmovietalk I also have no problem with it. I know it's needed to be appealing in the Western market. I was just trying to recall what I've read in the book before. Thanks!
When the person gets hit with the axe (not a spoiler in the begging of the book in the poem) is the death scary?
Sloane 〈3 No, it wasn't scary as it happens off screen. The aftermath was a bit gory, though, and it definitely built the suspense.
i can't understand the ending yet....?
What didn't you understand about it?
It’s one of the better adaptations, but not the best. I still prefer the 1945 one and the Russian version over this one.
The debauchery scene didn’t work. If you were being hunted and stalked, the last thing you’d do is get wasted with someone you know is trying to kill you.
It's all subjective. I preferred this version because it was more faithful to the source material. And as for the debauchery scene, being that I've never been hunted or stalked by a killer, I can't possibly say how I'd act. But I don't think squeezing the most out of the short time I had left would be entirely improbable.
We are working on an Graphic novel adaptation for swedish market right now.
That's great to hear! I hope it's a big success for you 😊
Amazing adaptation! Love this review!
Thank you 😊
They are not "mostly strangers to one another" are they? They are total strangers to each other are they not?
The only thing I think could have been better is the casting. For example, Aidan Turner is much too hot to be Lombard. Lombard wasn’t supposed to be particularly hot.
Good point. I think I was just so happy that we finally got such a decent adaptation of the book that I was able to overlook things like that.
Olyvia Fleming who cares
I just love this book. Best of the best till date . And I don't think anyone is going to beat it
Same. She really did craft a dark, twisted and disturbing tale that is timeless.
glad i'm not alone in my admiration of Then there were none series....great review!!! Have you seen Russian version? It's true to book including the ending.
No, I haven't seen that one. Sounds like I should, though, especially if the ending is unaltered.
Russian version is on Prime to stream....must purchase in Two Parts. Worth it
Great stuff, thanks for letting me know!
I loved the book and the 1945 film I haven’t seen the 2015 miniseries yet
Have you seen the Soviet film adaptation? In not, you should. If yes, I'm a bit astonished you think so little of it.
I think the ending of the miniseries was far more dramatic than that in the book. The book had a literary ending, meant and perfectly designed to be read. The miniseries had an end that was dramatic, meant and perfectly designed to be seen and heard.
I remain disappointed that the racism which was and is a theme in the book once again ended up erased. It should have been "Ten LIttle Indians" and I truly think the characters--these comfortable white men and women--should have mentioned they had started to feel like the Indians of the poem, i.e. like the natives one of them murdered so callously (and enjoyed some support from his fellow targets for having done so).
Hang on a minute, I have seen Desyat Negrityat and thought it was very good. Easily my second favourite adaptation out of the ones I've seen. Not sure why you'd say I think little of it 🤔
@@danjensenmovietalk By default you made all the other film versions seemingly negative by default. Which would be fair enough. Most of them are well-crafted but ultimately mediocre. But yeah, I think this BBC and the Russian versions are excellent.
I am a playwright and would LEAP at the chance to adapt this novel myself. For one thing, I would mention something about the times in which it appeared--the late 1930s as WWII loomed and Hitler had begun murdering Jews as well as other racial minorities. I mean, that is part of the book! Its original context! But I digress...
Gotcha. Keep in mind, this review is five years old and a lot has happened since then, including checking out the Russian version which was indeed great. Personally, I thought the mini-series was better directed and acted and benefited from the longer run time to flesh out the characters a little more, but I respected the Russian version for staying true to the novel 😊
The Russia movie version of the book is great.
Louis Cario I really should check it out one of these days.
@@danjensenmovietalk did you check it out? It’s on UA-cam sometimes. It’s call Desyat Negrityat
Yeah, I finally got around to seeing it a couple of years ago. You're right, it was really good!
@@danjensenmovietalk the version in Africa is the worse version in my opinion.
It is not horror, it's mystery
Booger Man And like all other films it's subjective. Some people consider Se7en a horror film, others consider it a thriller, and some a detective movie. To me ATTWN is definitely a mystery, but I also thought it was the scariest book I ever read and saw a lot of horror elements in it.
Rene clairs film version in 1945 with Barry Fitzgerald is beyond a shadow of a doubt the best adaptation of this book. It’s on UA-cam watch it . Highly highly recommend it . Characters are brilliantly done
I do agree it's good, but I didn't like that they changed the ending so much, as well as some of the character names. That's why I felt this recent version was a better adaptation - it adhered more closely to the source material that I love so much.
The 1945 version really sucks ! The last remaining two little indians neutralise the killer and riide happily into the sunset, in the most superficial ending, Hollywood style ! Agatha Christie's greatness in this novel was to imagine a puzzle with 10 bodies, no killer and the impossibility to figure out who was the last person alive on that secluded island.
Yech! Clair's film has the most appallingly offensive Hollywood ending.
OK So I won't give anything away but here is a ? I have and I have never read the book: How could any one know of all the crimes each has committed? For example how could the person(s) behind it all know about Vera's crime? And I am not being more specific to avoid being a spoiler but that seems to me a flaw unless I missed something since only Vera knew what she had done.
the man she wanted to marry knew/strongly suspected what she'd done and was devastated
The killer met her former fiance who told him about her when drunk. Afterwards he investigated the incident to see if there was any substance to his allegations.
Just watched it and I must say it was great! I've read the book at least 4 times since I really love the atmosphere and pace. I also watched the 1945 version and I really don't get the love it gets.. The ending was terrible and totally disrespected the source. This version was great and the cast was great! Some changes I disliked and some really fit, just like you said. In my opinion, this was really a fair adaptation to the book and a good mystery mini-series for those who haven't read it.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it as much as I did! It's about time someone did the book justice as I could never understand why it was so difficult to just stick to the details.
@@danjensenmovietalk yes! Indeed a great book that works really well. Following the formula is a pure guarantee for success, which this adaptation nailed in my opinion. Acting and exposition were on point and made sense. I only wish they didn't tweak the crimes the characters originally committed, but I realize they would be more difficult to portray and would require more time in their original form. Overall a solid, well executed adaptation, featuring beloved stars of mine.
I mean they could do it in modern times. Put them someplace with no signal
They could, but I'm glad they kept the original time and setting for this version. Would be interesting to see a decent modernised version, though. Maybe a sci-fi on a space station?
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen that could be quite interesting.
I have seen about every version of the movie I could find. The one in the 40s one on the 70s and I want to say one in that 60, and of course this one. Got interested after the computer game version that came out in like 2005 that came with a book copy.
I've always been kinda keen to play that game, but from some reviews I've seen it doesn't look great. Did you enjoy it?
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen very much. It’s kinda dated now graphics wise, and the voice acting isn’t the best but I loved it. I was like 10 when it came out, so it’s more of a childhood memory for me. There’s some good playthoughs on UA-cam of it as well.
Ten little N words, ten little Indians, ten little sailor boys, ten little soldier boys, and then there were none, this book has so many names
It's crazy, isn't it? At least they ended up with a cool title and not something lame, haha.
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen very true. Now I’m trying to think of lame names they could of used.
Mind blown: Didn't know it was called 10 little n-word(s).
Yup. That was the original title. I even have a couple of copies of the book with that original title on them. It's weird to think there was a time when that was acceptable.
@@danjensenmovietalk I mean, I still remember a licorice brand here in Italy with a man in blackface doing the Tv spot. During the '90s. Nowadays these things would be seen as absurd. Btw I really liked the review of the BBC miniseries. Never read the book (I knew the gist of it by reading the book cover once some 20+ years ago) but I really loved the adaptation and I just rewatched it yesterday. I'm looking forward to watching the Pale Horse adaptation and Ordeal by Innocence.
This BBC version was definitely the most accurate screen version so far. But if you ever get a chance to read the book, I can't recommend it enough. It's so chilling! The miniseries did a great job at almost capturing the sense of dread that the book conveyed, but didn't quite hit that mark.
I was in this movie 😁😂
Seriously? That's pretty amazing! Which scene/s?
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen me and my brother played John and Lucy cumb. We were the ones who got run over
Oh, wow!!! Well, congratulations on getting to be a part of something so great! You should be proud of your contribution, no matter how small the role.
Thank you 😊 Movie Talk with Dan Jensen
xrxdxyx XD umm ok
This version was totally crap. The best version is the Russian version followed by the 1974 version that is set in the Persian desert
Fair enough. I just prefer my adaptations to be closer to the source material.
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen but this was nowhere near the source material, just look at the farce at the end and at other points throughout the film
You should read the book some time. It's amazing!
Movie Talk with Dan Jensen I have read the book, in fact I have read every single Agatha Christie novel and short story. In no place in the novel does that absolute farce at the end happen. If you have read the book yourself you oiled realise that a letter was left to be found explaining how the murders were committed and the reason behind them. There are so many completely over the top farces in this adaption that do not appear at all in the novel and this production was a complete farce. If you have read the novel, then I suggest you read it again to mark all the inaccuracies that appeared in this production. The Russian version is faithful yo the book and the version stein the Persian desert is faithful to the play that Agatha Christie herself adapted from the novel; the only difference with it being transferred from location on the island.
I've read it enough times to know it's not set in the desert and everyone dies in the end, hence why the miniseries is closer to the source material. But by all means, please try and continue arguing using utter nonsense. This is fun 😊
Awful effort .