Akavir & The Tsaesci - The Elder Scrolls Lore

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  • @DoubleNegative
    @DoubleNegative  5 років тому +107

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    • @conradclassey4471
      @conradclassey4471 2 роки тому +1

      Double Negative. Check out AlviaAlcedo tiger dragon on deviant art, this isn't a plug. Just thought you'd you find it so awesome, it just has to be true.

  • @jarool1410
    @jarool1410 8 років тому +947

    "So awesome it has to be true" best quote ever.

    • @glsapp23
      @glsapp23 6 років тому +5

      Except it seems really ridiculous.

    • @gabzdark07
      @gabzdark07 6 років тому +35

      Not in a videogame, which it's entire purpose is fun.

    • @thevoidlookspretty7079
      @thevoidlookspretty7079 6 років тому +15

      It may be beat by a historian saying: “It all seemed like a good idea at the time.”

    • @mrbarefootbogan6254
      @mrbarefootbogan6254 6 років тому +1

      Their is also Atmora and Aldmeris, and I think Aldmeris is bigger than Akavir.

    • @traceyjacobsen8544
      @traceyjacobsen8544 5 років тому +2

      Mr Bare Foot Bogan no Aldmeri is a lot smaller then akaviri
      Akavir I do believe is almost as big as tamriel or half the size of tamriel...its pretty big

  • @cowseverywhere7877
    @cowseverywhere7877 8 років тому +482

    I just can't get over how rich the lore is in the Elder Scrolls franchise, I wander if any of Bethesda's staff actually make a living writing and selling real life fiction novels.

    • @Stargate-over-starwars
      @Stargate-over-starwars 6 років тому +6

      Cows Everywhere!! Don't quote me but i think its was mostly written by once guy

    • @jahpolley
      @jahpolley 6 років тому +82

      Indeed, most of the Elder Scrolls Lore was written by Michael Kirkbride, who, even though he no longer works for Bethesda, still writes lore for the Elder Scrolls universe. His work can be found at the Imperial Library website.

    • @GoodnessandTruth
      @GoodnessandTruth 5 років тому +30

      I think the new Bethesda doesn't really care about lore...

    • @connorsol
      @connorsol 4 роки тому +2

      There were two Elder Scrolls novels written, albeit poorly and to poor and obscure reception

    • @d4darwin458
      @d4darwin458 Рік тому

      Hurts me too man🥲
      I wouldnt mind playing an akavir game

  • @BloomerMindset
    @BloomerMindset 8 років тому +1833

    "We don't know much about Akavir" *gives a 14 minute presentation about akavir*

    • @victuz
      @victuz 7 років тому +167

      Yes, this is TES universe, an almost none information is a huge information in this series.
      And a big information is... Well, I can't describe the length.

    • @RainbowManification
      @RainbowManification 6 років тому +84

      Compared to other elder scrolls lore, that's very tiny

    • @guardianofsummerset451
      @guardianofsummerset451 6 років тому +33

      Well, only to talk about Vivec, he would have to do hours of videos, so... yeah, not much about akavir.

    • @pyjamies8159
      @pyjamies8159 6 років тому +2

      now compare that with the lore on tamriel

    • @marshmallowmountains4636
      @marshmallowmountains4636 6 років тому +14

      To be fair, 14 minutes of history with a huge continent filled with people that have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years is really small.

  • @spencersmith5949
    @spencersmith5949 8 років тому +295

    I was under the impression that when it said the Tsaesci "consumed" the humans of akavir that it was a metaphor for conquering and absorbing the human kingdom into the Tsaesci's. This would explain why the akaviri are described as both humans and snake-men; the Tsaesci are the actual snake-men and rulers while humans were just slaves. This would even ensure that if the Tsaesci were all vampires that they would have a potentially never ending stock of food.

    • @vanders4198
      @vanders4198 8 років тому +73

      And this would also explain why you find human Akaviri ghosts at the Pale Pass.

    • @AlexanderPR2
      @AlexanderPR2 7 років тому +4

      Spencer Smith They ate the humans of Akavir. The gnomes are their slaves and stock of food.

    • @johnwhittington2998
      @johnwhittington2998 5 років тому +3

      DarkHunter Hello me ol chum!

    • @badernera7497
      @badernera7497 3 роки тому +1

      I prefer to think it was something like Boethia eating Trinimac and pooping out Malacath, it's fucked up I know but it would fit the Tsaesci quite well

    • @badernera7497
      @badernera7497 3 роки тому

      Like instead of native humans there were native elves that became human after... ingestion

  • @evansheehan9258
    @evansheehan9258 8 років тому +1514

    A whole other continent! Jesus these games have like, ALOT of content to work with here.

    • @MPtheNomad25
      @MPtheNomad25 8 років тому +208

      Evan Sheehan yeah man Nirn actually has 4 continents at the moment. Used to be 5, known as Yokuda, but it sank into the depths. This is one reason I love the Elder Scrolls. The universe is so big, so many possibilities for different races and geography

    • @evansheehan9258
      @evansheehan9258 8 років тому +99

      Michael Peters This shit is going to keep going for a fucking generation man. I mean,this started 1994? That was 22 years ago,albeit,they were different companies but still.

    • @danb6742
      @danb6742 8 років тому +29

      Evan Sheehan and that's the known world
      There possibly could be more

    • @MPtheNomad25
      @MPtheNomad25 8 років тому +22

      Dan B yeah I remember reading on one wikia that it's possible the most of Nirn hasn't been discovered yet

    • @blazednlovinit
      @blazednlovinit 7 років тому +46

      There's also a place called "Lyg", which is said to be _one of_ the "adjacent places", it was formed when Tamriel was folded up on itself, leaving an imprint and is said to be accessed by moving sideways in a weird and unspecified manner.
      Then of course there are all the realms of oblivion of the daedra and the aetherius. The imperials have even had a space program before (the mananauts)

  • @noahcunningham3166
    @noahcunningham3166 8 років тому +191

    I feel like there should have been paintings of the snake people because they did ruler the empire for a time and were rich and powerful

    • @itsbrewsky5519
      @itsbrewsky5519 6 років тому +54

      It's very possible they wanted to forget about that part of their history. If you think about it, people only ever really reference events from the first and third eras in the games...

    • @fedegibsonlespaul
      @fedegibsonlespaul 4 роки тому +23

      @Strasznik I've been friends with Todd Howard for years now, since we were buddies at the chess club, and he said to me that there are infinite endings to Skyrim and to the Akaviri. He told me a story with sixteen times the detail of what's been told in this video and all about radiant invasions, and to be fair, it all just works. "See that continent over there? You can lie about it" he said, while drinking Skooma and munching on Moonsugar..."Im a snake man", he kept repeating, and then shot an arrow to his own knee.

    • @deadchild3927
      @deadchild3927 3 роки тому +4

      it would make sense for the imperials to destroy the depictions of the tcaesi because it would hurt their pride to be reminded of them

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 3 роки тому +2

      @@itsbrewsky5519
      But why? If the Emperor used them as high ranking officers, there would definitely be history kept to teach of them

    • @seawind930
      @seawind930 2 роки тому

      2920 books say they were snakes.

  • @horsymandias-ur
    @horsymandias-ur 6 років тому +138

    I like the idea that the image of the Tsaeci was “mythified” over time - I think it would make more sense for them to be the Asian version of Men in TES.

    • @Xegethra
      @Xegethra 4 роки тому +14

      Well, half snake, half women existed in Arena, so it's not a stretch to imagine another race of half snake people.

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 3 роки тому +6

      I think ESO has implies tgey are humaniod but do have ssome snakelike fearures like scales and shedding skin.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 3 роки тому +4

      @@Xo-3130
      So Asian humans but with some snake features?

    • @lordowl3533
      @lordowl3533 3 роки тому +4

      I feel like they're probably just a subspecies of warrior argonians that are all vampires and over generations they just kind of evolved to be more snakelike due to vampirism being in their DNA, so they're like buff argonians with the facial features of the serpentine dragons from Skyrim.

    • @xXaltowolfXxmp3
      @xXaltowolfXxmp3 Рік тому

      @@thalmoragent9344 Right, I think the best depiction of them can actually be seen in the mod Elder Kings 2 (for CK3), which shows them as Asian-looking humanoids with golden scale-like skin. Very eastern in inspiration, which makes sense considering the relics we do see in the official games.

  • @tarhiel737
    @tarhiel737 8 років тому +57

    In oblivion there's a rumor (that's the key word, nobody knows for sure) that the nerevarine left on an expedition for Akavir. And seeing how they have corprus and cannot age, they could be still kicking it on the eastern continent.

    • @savagex466-qt1io
      @savagex466-qt1io 4 роки тому +5

      lmfao is your pic a character from Morowind called "Fargoth" ?

  • @venabre
    @venabre 8 років тому +351

    You forgot to talk about The Blades

    • @dreamz2134
      @dreamz2134 5 років тому +4

      That was way after this, blades started in talos area I believe

    • @Matakshaman
      @Matakshaman 5 років тому +18

      But Talos was the first Septim emperor, so this takes place after his death?

    • @justarandomaccount8330
      @justarandomaccount8330 4 роки тому +2

      They have no association with them other then their armour and weapons

    • @raphaelsilva9785
      @raphaelsilva9785 4 роки тому +1

      @@justarandomaccount8330 Of course they have, the main quest of skyrim explain this.

    • @captainrev4959
      @captainrev4959 4 роки тому +1

      @@dreamz2134 this is in the third era long after Tiber septim died.

  • @derekneese9497
    @derekneese9497 8 років тому +845

    Who here thinks that the next ES game should be during the next Akaviri invasion?

    • @vulpineknight
      @vulpineknight 8 років тому +96

      Derek Neese The Admeri Dom. would need to be defeated first, but if they could work in both the downfall of the AD and an invasion from Akavir, and do it well, it would definitely explain why Bethesda needs a much better engine before they work on TES:VI

    • @Smartacus98
      @Smartacus98 8 років тому +83

      Nah, return of the Dwemer. They were catapulted through time by dabbling with the heart of Lorkhan, and now Kagrenac returns, using his own lifeforce to power a brass god. They march across Morrowind and Skyrim, laying waste to all dunmer in their path but surprisingly leaving the Nords alone (they were allies at the time of the battle of Red Mountain), until they reach Hammerfell, where they have come to destroy the dissident Rourken clan. The game will be set in Hammerfell, which is simultaneously invaded by the Dominion which leads to noble houses plunging into civil war over whether to fight alone or allow the legions to step in. The player is caught in the middle of this, and ends up unraveling the mysteries of the Dwemer and halting the path of Numidium/Akulakhan by killing Kagrenac. Meanwhile, black ships appear in Black Marsh, where the An Xileel have established a brutal, xenophobic Orwellian dictatorship in the increasingly secretive Black Marsh, containing refugee Tsaesci who spread across Tamriel, telling stories of impending doom. Tosh Raka (who had mysteriously vanished since the disappearance of the Nerevarine) had awoken after 200 years of being reclusive (presumed dead by the Tsaesci and thought to have left the mortal plane by the Ka'Po'Tun) and rallied his people and their human slaves to bring destruction upon the Tsaesci, and were now setting course for Tamriel.
      Maybe in a DLC or sequel the player can travel to Black Marsh, liberate it from the An Xileel and, travelling to the Eastern coast, see a rising red mist on the horizon...

    • @t84t748748t6
      @t84t748748t6 8 років тому +14

      depends what place the next elder scroll is set in a akavire invasion would be fun in the black marsh
      reptile against reptile race
      elder scroll online would have been perfect for akavire

    • @Smartacus98
      @Smartacus98 8 років тому +5

      ***** Well, based on Oblivion/Skyrim standards of writing yes, but with good writing you can still unravel a mystery and leave more questions than there were before. Supposedly, in Morrowind, you "solve" the Mystery of the Dwarves as part of a quest for the Mages guild (or House Telvanni if you go at it a roundabout way) and it still leaves so many unanswered questions. I mean, you could speak in person to a living dwarf and still understand less about what was going on than you did before. The return of the dwemer doesn't necessarily explain why they disappeared. If anything, it just opens up the questions of how and why they came back, at least momentarily, which a well written story alludes to, but does not simply bluntly explain.

    • @FumblsTheSniper
      @FumblsTheSniper 7 років тому +3

      Or just anything to do with the continent. It would be nice to have them take a "risk" instead of playing it safe like they did with skyrim and f4.

  • @SultanOfAwesomeness
    @SultanOfAwesomeness 8 років тому +167

    Awesome stuff man. However, I'm kinda surprised you didn't mention that there's a possibility that those nasty storms that plagued the Imperial Fleet might have in fact been magical in origin. Gives us a bit of perspective on how strong their mages might be, eh?

    • @sickofitall89
      @sickofitall89 6 років тому +39

      Thats what i thot the whole time , these storms were most likely unnatural.

    • @shahsoarrogant7770
      @shahsoarrogant7770 4 роки тому

      Sultan I thought the storms were magical aswell

    • @user-no3tu9kh3p
      @user-no3tu9kh3p 4 роки тому +11

      It sounds like they took this from Japanese legend. An invading force being stopped by convenient storm multiple times. And they thought the gods were behind the storms, so maybe the same is for akavir. Maybe the Tsaesci are destined to stay. Maybe they're the ones keeping the perhaps more aggressive and dangerous snow demons at bay.

  • @WeatherMan404
    @WeatherMan404 8 років тому +375

    Bethesda I want a elder scrolls game set in Akavir

    • @danb6742
      @danb6742 8 років тому +62

      jake nikolia we should have explored all of Tamriel first

    • @WeatherMan404
      @WeatherMan404 8 років тому +29

      Dan B yeah I agree, I can't wait for Bethesda to make a game so that you can travel all tamriel

    • @597das
      @597das 6 років тому +37

      ESO has nearly all of Tamriel m8

    • @tylerclark4681
      @tylerclark4681 6 років тому +14

      dasco597 yeah but since eso takes place so long ago it’s a bit lame

    • @Knightmxre
      @Knightmxre 6 років тому +1

      @@danb6742 its called ESO

  • @dreammaker4147
    @dreammaker4147 8 років тому +288

    Tosh raka? So.... Akatosh? (With an "R") The father of dragons? Connection?

    • @AlexanderPR2
      @AlexanderPR2 7 років тому +21

      Master Austin Maybe. But Akatosh appears in Skyrim(Alduin) and his body doesn't have the same aspect of Tosh Raka. And Tosh Raka was the first to become a Tiger-Dragon a long time ago. Remember, Skyrim occurs in the 4th Era.

    • @ulfricstormcloak9096
      @ulfricstormcloak9096 6 років тому +120

      DarkHunter alduin and akatosh are different beings

    • @edugabreu
      @edugabreu 6 років тому +49

      Alduin is Akatosh first born, but not the same person/god/dragon/creature

    • @hannukah4410
      @hannukah4410 6 років тому +55

      Auriel, Akatosh, and Alduin are all aspect of the original spirit of time, called Aka. Auriel symbolises the beginning of time, Akatosh the body of time and Alduin the end of time. Alduin calling himself "firstborn of Akatosh" is merely him taunting The Last Dragonborn.

    • @moongirl786
      @moongirl786 6 років тому

      Quite possibly. Maybe he was a Demi-god from the start, of the blood of Akatosh, similar to the Dragonborn

  • @sangelititan1171
    @sangelititan1171 7 років тому +95

    Meanwhile, the Nerevarine is on an adventure in Akavir, probably creating friends and allies, destroying countries, and planning peaceful negotiations between Akavir and at least Morrowind.
    Seriously though, there is an immortal god walking around Akavir doing whatever the hell he likes. If we don't see more on the Nerevarine and Akavir in ES6, I'm gonna be pissed.

    • @300subscriberswithoutanyvideos
      @300subscriberswithoutanyvideos 5 років тому +10

      Not gonna lie,
      I wouldnt be mad if ES6 isnt in akavir.
      If it's still in tamriel, but another province. I wouldnt mind

    • @haibuiphuoc4442
      @haibuiphuoc4442 4 роки тому +21

      Things in Tamriel haven't been settled yet, why leave so soon?

    • @jaredhenderson7756
      @jaredhenderson7756 4 роки тому

      From a leak, it will take place in high rock and hammerfel, but take that with a grain of salt

  • @pastlife960
    @pastlife960 6 років тому +100

    Yeah, the Tsaeci are human, based on the Japanese. The Disaster at Ionith never mentions them being snake-people. But they did kill Emperor Uriel 5th so the legend of them being immortal snake vampires came about because of imperial bias. The Blades, the potentates, the army at Ionith, are all human, essentially samurai.

    • @joynelbonetdelgado4952
      @joynelbonetdelgado4952 5 років тому +5

      I think so too. Their swords are Katanas and the guards are in shape of snakes wrapped around the sword

    • @owo8996
      @owo8996 4 роки тому +39

      I'd like them to be actual snake people, we already have WAAAY too many Human/elf races to work with.

    • @habibcicero3833
      @habibcicero3833 3 роки тому +14

      @@owo8996 no us asians need a race its not fair lol

    • @bullettime1116
      @bullettime1116 3 роки тому +8

      @@habibcicero3833 asian power!

    • @gbt2009
      @gbt2009 3 роки тому +24

      @@habibcicero3833 Akavir is definitely Asian. It just sounds like in inspiration: Tsaesci are Japanese/Korean, Tang Mo are Chinese/Vietnamese, Po Tun are Indian, Snow Demons are Mongolian.

  • @alexdollesin300
    @alexdollesin300 5 років тому +14

    "It's so awesome it has to be true". This is exactly my process for determining canon

  • @joshuahunterwilkins4922
    @joshuahunterwilkins4922 8 років тому +78

    I never knew that Altair was in the Morag Tong...

    • @sickofitall89
      @sickofitall89 6 років тому +7

      How come ! Al Mualim was a dunmer !

    • @xananymous431
      @xananymous431 4 роки тому +3

      sickofitall89 and ezio was a redguard

    • @fedegibsonlespaul
      @fedegibsonlespaul 4 роки тому

      @@xananymous431 Madrigal is Bethesda and we are in the animus

  • @aguynamedatidade
    @aguynamedatidade 5 років тому +25

    You know that a race is serious when they can enslave a whole race of dragons, and cause another one to flee.

  • @BoomstickAsh
    @BoomstickAsh 2 роки тому +4

    After all these years, I’ve finally delved into the world of The Elder Scrolls, starting with Skyrim. Trying to get caught up with the vast amount of lore (not to mention what happened in the previous games) has been a little overwhelming to say the least. Your videos about all things Elder Scrolls are the best on UA-cam. You’ve broken down so many things about this game world. Great job man! Liked & subscribed 👍🏻

  • @hohnsenhoff
    @hohnsenhoff 8 років тому +70

    I see what you did there with those Age of Empires 2 guard towers

    • @pennywise6158
      @pennywise6158 8 років тому +5

      Quick we r being attacked place a tower
      Every add ever

    • @kaisermikael589
      @kaisermikael589 3 роки тому

      69 likes after 4 years.... Nice

  • @Smartacus98
    @Smartacus98 8 років тому +26

    The notion that Reman ruled all of Tamriel seems...unfounded to me. Obviously Morrowind is not included, but based on the account of 2920, the provinces have a degree of autonomy that would suggest independence, I think it more likely that the Reman Empire ruled a part of every nation of Tamriel (which were not necessarily the same border-wise as they are in the third and fourth eras).

    • @seawind930
      @seawind930 2 роки тому +2

      It's more like he united the human nations. Most of the Elven and beastfolk nations were never really touched and I don't think he ever conquered Summerset.

  • @subtotalaljar3620
    @subtotalaljar3620 6 років тому +10

    Just had a thought. What if the Akaviri were somehow manipulating the weather to beat down the ships that tried to reinforce or bring them supplies?might be a long shot but manipulation of magic that strong could be possible. Even the Dragonborn can call hails of storms or clear the skys. Mixed with the overall dragoncentricness of Akavir as a whole. It’s possible

  • @daswordofgork9823
    @daswordofgork9823 7 років тому +22

    I happen to have a theory based on the Tsaesci and the men of akavir. Rather two in fact.
    #1: What of the Blades that were mentioned on Alduin's wall in Sky Haven Temple were the Akaviri people who were running away from the Tsaesci from Akavir and invaded Tamriel through Pale Pass? Since the akaviri soldiers and the commander in charge of the forces at Pale Pass were human, That would explain them being human. They tried to use all that they had in order to survive and they were granted pardon from Remen Cyrodiil and accepted it in order to survive. It would also explain how the people in the Disaster on Ionith explains them to be 'mounted warriors' not snake people. Can't ride a horse with a snake body.
    #2: What if the humans on Akavir and the Tsaesci live together (sort of coexisting) and that the Tsaesci may have a power almost identically to the Cold Harbor Vampires in Skyrim (like Harkon and the Dragonborn having the ability to turn into a vampire monster thing). What if the Tsaesci had that same ability from turning into a humanoid form to a Snake-like form when they so desire, maybe explaining the Humanoid Akavir at Pale Pass.
    So what do you guys think?

    • @doot4452
      @doot4452 5 років тому +3

      damn, most ES didn't reveal history just like you said, Akaviri people running away from Tsaesci

    • @tank3143
      @tank3143 4 роки тому +1

      My idea for an es game would be set on Akavir where the men of Akavir defeat the snow demons and Tsaesci and you help conquer Akavir .

  • @zuckerhut8707
    @zuckerhut8707 4 роки тому +2

    Dude, this was awesome! I love how you describe detailed lore in a very visual way along with your text. I'm a big elder scrolls fan with waaay too many hours into oblivion and skyrim, but you've taught me so much more of the history. Just awesome!

  • @Deatheater4444
    @Deatheater4444 6 років тому +50

    Everything can be blamed on the snake people.
    Just like irl.

  • @mrelephant2283
    @mrelephant2283 7 років тому +1

    I swear to god i can't get enough of this video, i just keep rewatching it and i'm never bored, i don't know why i just love this video.

  • @dismissedpillow7039
    @dismissedpillow7039 8 років тому +54

    I am really happy that this video is out.

  • @cowseverywhere7877
    @cowseverywhere7877 8 років тому +28

    I must admit, I never took the time to read a lot of the books in the games, but these lore videos makes me wish had though.
    In fact the next time I play Skyrim I am going to make it my character's personal mission to collect every book in the game and read them all.

    • @riom.6091
      @riom.6091 4 роки тому

      Cows Everywhere!! It’ll take absolute years.

  • @ArmouredProductions
    @ArmouredProductions 8 років тому +16

    Question: I thought that the Dragons in Skyrim, were in skyrim because they fled away from being killed/eaten on Akavir, including Alduin. I forgot where I heard this, but do the Akaviri Dragons have any relations to Alduin's rule in ancient skyrim?
    EDIT: According to the wiki, the Skyrim Dragons are indeed indigenous to Akavir, and for some reason migrated to Tamriel and enslaved man. Why they fled? either they were bored or scared of being eaten/killed

    • @madscientistshusta
      @madscientistshusta 8 років тому +2

      Exonaut Productions that's wierd according to parthunax alduan had 1 job, one fucking job n I that was to eat the world n since he didn't n tried to enslave it it left him weak n able to die, if the world eater created by the God of time fled from something...doesn't that throw a wrench in all of the 9 God's presumed power, if an aspect of the one God akatosh (alduin =death/rebirth of culpas) is a wuss and xanthine do his job on any content doesn't that mean the akiri people are the true gods? all hail tscexi

    • @ArmouredProductions
      @ArmouredProductions 8 років тому +4

      Yeah. I think that Alduin's superiority complex comes from them fleeing form Akavir. lol

  • @DeadLinux
    @DeadLinux 7 років тому

    This is by far the best amalgamation of all the Akavirii lore and Tsaesci history in one big gulp. I love it, and it actually makes me feel better about my current playthrough of Skryim. Thanks!

  • @sorchatheraven
    @sorchatheraven 6 років тому +7

    I'm remembering more of ES history than I'll ever do of real life history

  • @SkoomaSam
    @SkoomaSam 6 років тому +1

    I crave an Elder Scrolls RTS, perhaps set in the invasion of Tamriel, then the invasion of Akavir.... oooh that would be good

  • @ChocorocK
    @ChocorocK 8 років тому +147

    Bethesda simply wrote them off, like every interesting detail in the Elder Scrolls series.

    • @KitchenSinkSoup
      @KitchenSinkSoup 8 років тому +3

      chocoman45 When?

    • @ChocorocK
      @ChocorocK 8 років тому +64

      By the time of Oblivion there were still Tsaesci living in Cyrodiil. But along with the supposed Roman/Imperial Japan/South East Asian motif of the empire and the jungles of Cyrodiil they were gone cause they were too cool.
      And during the Interregnum when ESO was set the Tsaesci Potentate is supposed to be still standing and the defacto head of the Empire.

    • @alexappsapp1332
      @alexappsapp1332 7 років тому +31

      Adam ESO is canon, but the Tsaesci were not many anyway so.

    • @eligio7907
      @eligio7907 6 років тому +1

      they were made humans

    • @CrystalPines
      @CrystalPines 6 років тому +2

      ALfutbol ESO is canon

  • @iRemainNameless
    @iRemainNameless 4 роки тому

    What an immersive video.
    I want to know more now.
    Your video style is very easy to understand

  • @thewolfdevil5193
    @thewolfdevil5193 5 років тому +4

    This is basically what you can find in the book titled "The Mysterious Akavir"

  • @TDS181
    @TDS181 6 років тому

    Oh that music in the background. The Old Kingdom will remain in my heart forevermore.

  • @omegatheta1701
    @omegatheta1701 8 років тому +14

    I noticed you glossed over the nevarines departure to and subsequent disappearance into, akavir, which seems somewhat important considering his assumed significance as a shezarine

  • @zally8183
    @zally8183 6 років тому +1

    7:45 HAHA I love that you put an image of Altair up when you said that assassins killed that guy.

  • @ownageforkilz
    @ownageforkilz 8 років тому +16

    Great video, keep it up! Would you mind telling me what program you use for your presentation? I would really like to try it.

    • @DoubleNegative
      @DoubleNegative  8 років тому +5

      +ownageforkilz
      Premier Pro, mainly. The animation and effect tools aren't as sophisticated as something like After Effects, but it gets the job done.

  • @bamvan8518
    @bamvan8518 7 років тому

    Jesus. I've seen so many lore series and have never know half of what you talk about. Please make more.

  • @djdjdijon
    @djdjdijon 8 років тому +45

    how can you do a video on akavir but completely forget about the Akaviri who invaded morrowind and skyrim makeing the ebonheart pact theres no soild proof they where eaten and no solid time frame
    because they invaded with the games already proveing they where humanoid and possibly Asian because of people like Akaviri Commander Mishaxhi and Duadeen with the dragon wall also showing them as human

    • @moongirl786
      @moongirl786 7 років тому +20

      Watch the beginning of the video again, he briefly mentions it. The reason it is only a brief mention is because the video is mainly about the Tsaesci (its in the title, and again the beginning of the video). If you didn't know, the Akaviri invasion that led to the formation of the Ebonheart Pact was the Kamal invasion led by Ada'Soom Dir-Kamal, which was indeed driven back by the Dunmer and the Tribunal, plus the Nords and the Underking, as well as some Argonians

    • @GothicElf68
      @GothicElf68 6 років тому

      I was wondering about this as well, so thank you , Moongirl, for the explanation. I caught that about the invasion, yet the narrator really said nothing about it hitting Morrowind or how it was repelled by the Pact.

    • @aecusregen4614
      @aecusregen4614 6 років тому +4

      To my knowledge he actually got a few things wrong, he does mention the Akaviri, but he says they were foot soldiers to the Tsaesci, the Tsaesci never invaded Tamriel; what actually happened was the Tsaesci attacked and nearly wiped out the Akaviri men and they fled to Tamriel and in the process attacked the nords and imperials. It was the Akaviri men who recognized Reman as Dragonborn, not the Tsaesci who surrendered to and bestowed the title upon him. Reman also didn't actually defeat the Akaviri; the Akaviri were kicking the shit out of the imperials and the nords until they recognized Reman as Dragonborn. I may be wrong on a few things here, but I've done a pretty large amount of research unto the subject and to my knowledge this is what occurred; he didn't provide any sources so I don't know where he got his information to corroborate or refute any of it

    • @markmitin7397
      @markmitin7397 4 роки тому

      Maybe slanted eyes resembled snake-like appearance to the inhabitants of Tamriel, as well as Tsaeci armor, which resembles samurai armor from Japanese culture, with a fantasy touch that makes it look like a snake scale armor.

  • @NakedAvanger
    @NakedAvanger 7 років тому

    This is probably the best and most detailed akavir lore video to date

  • @ThePieMan305
    @ThePieMan305 8 років тому +5

    These videos are so damn good, better than shoddycast imo (although I like shoddy's as well, he can be a bit biased in his retelling of the lore since he likes the thalmor so much lol). I just wish the videos didn't release so far apart :C

  • @flyshallowfax
    @flyshallowfax 5 років тому +2

    "that is just so awesome that it has to be true" wish all my cool stories were embellished like that all the time.

  • @michaelmalone3110
    @michaelmalone3110 8 років тому +7

    and here we show altier killing a Templar leader, to represent the morag tong

  • @lazysalas
    @lazysalas 8 років тому

    Best lore videos on UA-cam. I've watched them all 5 times. please keep making more tes videos

  • @dgmetalhead
    @dgmetalhead 8 років тому +34

    The Tsaesci are humans. The book "A Children's Anuad" says so when it lists the Tsaesci of Akavir as one of the original races of humans on Nirn, along with the Nords of Atmora and the Redguards of Yokuda.

    • @andryuu_2000
      @andryuu_2000 6 років тому +8

      tuxxcat those are akaviri

    • @420-V.T.L-Machinist
      @420-V.T.L-Machinist 6 років тому +9

      Technically the race from Yokuda was the Yokudans. They became the Redguards at a later time on Tamriel

    • @chaoticreaper0575
      @chaoticreaper0575 6 років тому +3

      well, it could be a case of, yes they're snake men but they're snake MEN, they may have counted as Human rather than Mer in the eyes of Tamrial scholars

    • @wj287
      @wj287 5 років тому

      @@chaoticreaper0575 No they're men, idk why people cling to the "snake men" thing, they were just men. Very aggressive men.

    • @chaoticreaper0575
      @chaoticreaper0575 5 років тому

      @@wj287 If you read my comment carefully, you would have seen I was saying that regardless of what people considered them, they were men nonetheless in the eyes of the people of Tamrial instead of another breed of elf kind. Also how are they not snake men, they're obviously part snake in some aspect, the long slender and legless bodies that slither along the ground, like a snake would do.

  • @calebkelahan8745
    @calebkelahan8745 7 років тому

    This seriously is so informative and I cannot even explain how much I learned from this and how much it satisfied me. Please please please do more

  • @gothic3theageofwar565
    @gothic3theageofwar565 8 років тому +73

    The Tsaesci are humans (very similar to japanese people). Tamrielics call them "Snakes" because they've smaller eyes than than every race on Tamriel and because the main war banner of their empire is a green snake with red eyes.
    Want a proof ? Play Oblivion and do the mission of the akaviri Tsaesci on the Pale Pass, all of them have human scheletons and their leader, General Mishaxi, is full human being :)

    • @gothic3theageofwar565
      @gothic3theageofwar565 8 років тому +29

      Crimson Archer20 Tsaesci being snakes is superstion. i already explained the many factors that cause the people of Tamriel calling them "vampiric snakes". The only thing about them that might actually be true is they have really strong magic that is able to manipulate the wheather. It is recorded that Uriel Septim V won several battles against them and they used human classic military tactics with infantry, heavy cavalry etc... and probably it was Tsaesci light cavalry that caused the many ambushes on the road between Septimia and Ionith. The most interesting matter is that many on Tamriel make superstions about their phisical aspect but basically very very few survived for actually tell what happened. Most part Uriel's army already left Septimia when the final battle started and even when the main force arrived in the Tsaesci Empire none of soldiers saw a single Tsaesci or any kind of resistence. Only two legionnaires managed to escape the battlefield of Ionith and immagine how scared they were after seeing thousands of their comrades being slaughtered like fools. They probably said everyone that the Emperor died heroically against "the snakes" and that those "snakes" were coming for all of them, if they wouldn't escape immediately. Probably from that day on everyone stated the Akavir is not conquerable baecause of the fucking "snakes". And the most ignorant people of Tamriel started to believe that Akavir is a Hell with demons. The same thing of our world: for example before discovering America Continent, Europeans believed that on the other side of the sea there was the Purgatory of the Catholic Religion and so a sort of forbidden and mithycal land populated by angels.

    • @danb6742
      @danb6742 8 років тому +16

      Frank -97 the emperor of the Snake people was emperor for hundreds of years
      A human couldn't have lived that long

    • @UnknownSquid
      @UnknownSquid 8 років тому +15

      @Dan B: Being long lived don't imply a snakelike appearance however. The elves are proof enough of that. It's potential evidence only that they aren't human, not that they aren't humanoids. It's important to remember that in the Elderscrolls universe, being "Human" isn't such a simple and unified thing. Various regional "races of man" (as opposed to Mer) literally have distinct innate magical and arguably trans-human powers, specific to their bloodline.

    • @gothic3theageofwar565
      @gothic3theageofwar565 8 років тому +3

      Thijs Tharn It's peasants's superstion, do you really believe they are like that ?!? Ahahahahaha. I tell you a secret then, Tosh Raka wants to defeat the Imperial Legion using a spell that invokes a rain full of yellow tomatoes!!! And the Snow Demons of Kamal are the Polaretti Ice-Cream Penguins in reality

    • @thatshadyalchemist4488
      @thatshadyalchemist4488 8 років тому +2

      Frank -97 That's just speculation and not proven. Your theory is shit.

  • @pixeljam45
    @pixeljam45 8 років тому

    As someone who played through Morrowind and is now working my way through Skyrim, I'm loving these videos! Definitely what I need to understand the games and their crazy amount of history. I can't wait for the next one!

  • @joshmiller2979
    @joshmiller2979 8 років тому

    These videos are doing an amazing job of filling the void that ShoddyCast left behind. You got yourself a new fan.

  • @maffiasvante
    @maffiasvante 8 років тому +6

    when is the next episode coming out??

  • @himynamelscolin
    @himynamelscolin 4 роки тому +1

    Bro, how sick would a game be set in this time period

  • @muflon5920
    @muflon5920 8 років тому +3

    There's a theory that Tosh Raka is avatar of Akatosh

  • @maijuporilainen7994
    @maijuporilainen7994 7 років тому +1

    This video was amazingly done, funny and really nice overall!! loved it,please make more! :)

  • @TomasDeCat
    @TomasDeCat 3 роки тому +4

    tbh the geography of that map just doesn't make sense. I'd wafer the Tsaesci are supposed to be Feudal Japan, Ka Po tun is ancient China, Kamal is Siberia, and Tang Mo would be like Indonesia or something due to its endless islands. That being said Tang Mo seems like it would be off to the southeast and Tsaseci along with Ka Po Tun would share a long border that would allow them to wage large-scale wars in the first place. Kamal I can imagine would be like Manchuria area but still within striking distance of Tang Mo.

  • @leatherface1136
    @leatherface1136 4 роки тому +2

    Imagine in the next ES game you’re a prisoner that is being exiled to Akavir and you arrive by ship like in Morrowind

  • @PMMillard
    @PMMillard 4 роки тому +4

    imagine a TES game in which you are dragged into an expiditionary war against akavir and the turtorial takes place while you're stationed on black harbor

  • @juke9674
    @juke9674 2 роки тому +1

    Love how vague the tsaechi lore is.
    In a communiy made mod coming up for crusader kings 3 the tsaechi and the akaviri humans are one and the same, but they can start a process towards tsaechence, which turns them into snakes more and more but also makes them more powerful

    • @InquisitorThomas
      @InquisitorThomas 2 роки тому

      Back in the CK2 version of the Mod, Tsaesci were seemingly humanoid (who live roughly for 200 to 300 hundred years, who have a unique trait that allows them to extract blood from prisoners to boost their piety and had a generally Japanese aesthetic which fits with what we know from the gear and architecture they left behind.

  • @childeater7327
    @childeater7327 7 років тому +4

    Why would you fight vampires at night smh

  • @MrInternetMan
    @MrInternetMan 7 років тому

    There's so much more we need to explore in this series. We need like 12 teams making games in this universe.

  • @kodajolly2655
    @kodajolly2655 6 років тому +3

    my favorite theory about the Tsaesci is that the whole "vampire snake men" thing is being taken way too literally, and they're actually just parasites that resemble small serpents that take control of whatever host they climb in. Kinda like Goa'Uld from Stargate

  • @yeetntnt2903
    @yeetntnt2903 4 роки тому +1

    you should do a lore video on the underking, its something id love to know more about

  • @trillionbones89
    @trillionbones89 8 років тому +17

    The Taesci kinda remind me of aztecs.

    • @TheRedname
      @TheRedname 8 років тому

      Why exactly...?

    • @trillionbones89
      @trillionbones89 8 років тому +19

      Redname
      This might be because of the "From Dusk Til Dawn" series, where they made snake-vampires, instead of classical bat-vampires.
      But the aztecs had warriors who dressed as eagles/jaguars(this was to confuse people, making them believe that they are those predators). They brutally ruled over other tribes and had human-sacrifices.
      Maybe the imperial invasion needed some good old gunpowder and diseases.

    • @liam-ethanwallis4924
      @liam-ethanwallis4924 5 років тому

      Erik Münso Rather ironic, considering these guys were probably inspired by Yuan-Ti, a monster race from DnD who have a lot of Aztec and Mayan influences

  • @garryame4008
    @garryame4008 5 років тому

    I really appreciate the use of the map to show historical movements.

  • @enusama1687
    @enusama1687 5 років тому +5

    I'm confused now. I thought Talos conquered all of Tamirel and founded the Empire not that Remen guy he's talking about.

  • @dalandadan
    @dalandadan 8 років тому +1

    these are great, and well done. hope to see more in the future. keep up the good work.

  • @Hortifox_the_gardener
    @Hortifox_the_gardener 8 років тому +3

    Hmm... I wonder if a small "We are sorry for the stupidity of our ancestors. Here have some cool stuff we made. Maybe wanna trade and exchange culture?" ship expedition would make it better or lead to some "They are weak - invade and take back our grip on the continent!" event.
    Obviously the Akavir magic is better (the storms couldn't be a coincidence).
    I am overthinking that damn lore... but fuck - bethesda making like one game every 6-8 years that doesn't add much to the lore isn't enough!

    • @flamethekid
      @flamethekid 4 роки тому

      you got a continent of snow demons that want to destroy everything(and even tried to destroy tamriel at one point too), an group of tiger people who want to conquer tamriel, and the Tsaesci who were said to eat their humans and dragons.
      no cultural exchange would ever happen

    • @elgatto3133
      @elgatto3133 3 роки тому

      @@flamethekid got some chill monkey dudes too tho

  • @MLeoM
    @MLeoM 6 років тому +1

    Elder Scrolls are the best fantasy games ever!!! Excellent video and representation...

  • @Kotor007
    @Kotor007 8 років тому +7

    Great work but skyrim and morrowind repelled the snow demons in an ununited Tamriel so I think Tamriel would be fine if attacked again the protagonist of elderscrolls 8 would see to that 😉 lol

    • @trillionbones89
      @trillionbones89 8 років тому +5

      The Tribunal repelled the invadors, not the currently (by Argonians) conquered Dunmer.

    • @DoubleNegative
      @DoubleNegative  8 років тому +5

      +Ferdinand Francis
      Not quite conquered, but the Argonians did take a sizeable chunk of territory from the Dunmer. The eruption of Red Mountain did far worse. Plus, 2/3 of the Tribunal are dead now. Morrowind is not in the position to repel an invading army.

    • @bsamaniac305
      @bsamaniac305 7 років тому

      Bat Man
      Are Snow Elves and Snow Demons the same?

    • @blovlh6258
      @blovlh6258 7 років тому

      Fheroah No.

    • @M3RS.
      @M3RS. 7 років тому

      Fheroah -Snow Elves are Falmers. How? Well... When Nords came from Atmora to Skyrim it was colonized with Dwemers and Snow Elves with Dwemers usually being underground. Nords were fighting against Snow Elves and they succeed with Snow Elves escaping Skyrim. Few got in Morrowind where they later became Dark Elves. They also got into Valenwood becoming Wood Elves but few got captured by Dwemers. They made them their slaves. Later when Dwemers disappeared. Snow Elves stayed in the Dwemers dungeons getting used to the dark areas eventually getting blind. There is more but I am lazy to type it.

  • @TheoneknownasVC
    @TheoneknownasVC 8 років тому

    These are good! i hope you keep making more to help explain and show the story of the Elder Scrolls.

  • @oddsock3254
    @oddsock3254 5 років тому +4

    I like to think tosh raka became dragonborn, not a litteral dragon

  • @AT-qc6wg
    @AT-qc6wg 7 років тому

    You desrve so much credit for this. This video was so enjoyable to watch Keep it Up

  • @xXaltowolfXxmp3
    @xXaltowolfXxmp3 Рік тому

    The attempted colonization of Akavir must have been truly terrifying, I'd love to hear an in depth account of that tale xD

  • @liam-ethanwallis4924
    @liam-ethanwallis4924 5 років тому +2

    Due to the Tsaesci probably being based on the Yuan-ti from DnD, I'm betting the Tsaesci are a mix of vampire and snake man, being that they're rule by an upperclass of especially snake-like ones, with lower castes generally being less snake-like and all of them having vampire-esc aspects to them. They'd also probably be human-based as well

  • @NFITC1
    @NFITC1 8 років тому

    This was really good! The Akaviri tales in Oblivion really made me curious about them and I read everything in lore I could find on them only to learn that there's not that much. I thought there was some connection between them and the Argonians through the Hist, but I can't find mention of that now. Maybe that was an out-of-lore source.

  • @ExoSquadOffical
    @ExoSquadOffical 6 років тому

    This is the most informative elder scrolls video I’ve ever seen

  • @Talock2000
    @Talock2000 8 років тому

    Very well done videos, looking forward to the next one

  • @YungFabz
    @YungFabz 6 років тому

    This is a great video. Thank you for putting this together.

  • @seanstacks3436
    @seanstacks3436 4 роки тому

    I love Elder Scrolls lore, and the way you present it is really cool. Thank you for your videos they are great

  • @UnknownSquid
    @UnknownSquid 8 років тому

    Great stuff. Really well done. Would love to have one of these covering the origins and nature of the Daedra. I've seen plenty that introduce the various key figures and Daedric lords, but none that cover what they are and how they work as a whole.

  • @paddyblah887
    @paddyblah887 6 років тому

    Great Video dude... I know A LOT about ES lore but you thought me things kudos man...

  • @youaintready1006
    @youaintready1006 7 років тому

    Great video! I'd also include the rumor about the Nerevarine going to Akavir during Oblivion.

  • @hieuphungminh6690
    @hieuphungminh6690 3 роки тому +1

    Tsaesci are probably humanoid vampires who circumvented vampirism's weakness towards the sun by using magic to grow scales. They also probably have some connection with akatosh as well considering they can "eat" dragons like dragonborns do.

  • @andyt1313
    @andyt1313 8 років тому

    Another awesome lord addition! Right up there with Shoddycast's Eldest Scrolls lore series.

  • @savagex466-qt1io
    @savagex466-qt1io 4 роки тому

    Thanks so much for makeing this ! As I have only read books about the snake like people and I belive there named the Tsaeci. I choose not to barter with them as they give you a snakey deal !

  • @JOE96LIVERPOOL
    @JOE96LIVERPOOL 8 років тому

    These lore videos are the best on UA-cam! Good work man!

  • @ryungbear3118
    @ryungbear3118 4 роки тому +1

    i like how this guys logic works. "it's cool, so it's true"

  • @stonehillproductions129
    @stonehillproductions129 8 років тому

    in the next Tes game you should be able to play as a Tsaesci, that would be so freekin awesome

  • @FyreMagyk67
    @FyreMagyk67 6 років тому

    It think a sweet plot twist would be a surprise invasion by the Akaviri would be a great way to shake things up in TES 6.

  • @VaChiee
    @VaChiee 5 років тому

    this is the only history channel I need

  • @NilFox
    @NilFox 8 років тому +1

    Also you should consider checking out some of the ESO lore and maybe doing a video on that stuff, I was poking around on the TES lore reddit and someone brought up a topic on mages & magical feats in the elder scrolls, They linked to an article about Shalidor a powerful mage in the history of tamriel and how at one point he gained a daedric artifact from sheo in the form of a book filled with the knowledge of madmen called the Folium Discognitum.

  • @MrRationalThought
    @MrRationalThought 7 років тому

    This was a great video, I really enjoyed it, and I subbed! One suggestion, though; it'd be nice if you could list some references in the description, in-game books, and that kind of thing for those of us who want to learn more.

  • @MRiMaGinGa
    @MRiMaGinGa 8 років тому

    most interesting lore ive ever seen! keep up the lore and good work

  • @StarterSteel
    @StarterSteel 7 років тому

    Hearing this makes me want to see a true invasion from Akavir, or even reenact that whole segment of history, or have the next game take place in Avavir.

  • @SasukeTheCursed
    @SasukeTheCursed 7 років тому

    Would love if they would include the Akavir races as playable ones in the next Elder Scrolls. I need me some Tsaesci and Snow Demons in my life.

  • @arctorusmedia
    @arctorusmedia 8 років тому

    As soon as you start thinking about kalpas everything gets far more convoluted.

  • @williamfink5502
    @williamfink5502 4 роки тому

    could you imagine the next elder scrolls game or a off shoot being in akaivir and atmora and playing as those races. so much potential for the elder scrolls universe

  • @tauempire1793
    @tauempire1793 5 років тому +1

    They also made a Katarna type style sword that was really good when employed from the Empire