The Caligula Effect: Overdose Review | 33 Hours Later | Backlog Battle
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- Опубліковано 10 бер 2019
- The original Caligula Effect released on the Vita in 2017 and was overshadowed by Persona 5’s release just a month prior. The release was also plagued with performance issues thanks to its ambitious combat design that blended the strategy of tactical RPGs with the snappy gameplay of traditional turn based JRPGs. With The Caligula Effect: Overdose, FuRyu is delivering what I’d like to call the definitive edition of the game, with a brand new UI, faster, more streamlined gameplay, and tons of additional stories and scenarios. But is the trip to Mobius worth taking again? Find out in our Hours Later review!
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Thanks to you I bought the game. I'm now 7 hours in and I don't regret my purchase. While the game has flaws (which lets be real what jrpg doesn't? That's why it's a niche market) I love it for all its perfections and imperfections. Here's hoping the company at least learns from their mistakes and builds something better with their new found knowledge!
They have some ingredients that, with the right focus in the next game, can truly make it shine! Glad you’re enjoying the game and to be of help!
So heres my problem with the original. Let me know if these have been resolved.
#1) enemies all look the same and music plays the same.
#2) the story is way too short and feel less involved than most jrpg main protagonists. Alot of telling not enough showing.
#3) post game feels like a chore to do. Making friends to all the pol and finding personal quests for them only to unlock certain codes.
#4) lack of customization
@@kevinvu5432 most of those issues are indeed present. However the story imo feels long on this one. I hear it has some added content over the vita version so that could be why.
@@rekusanreku5540 that's a shame. They added free costume dlc but it felt like out of obligation. I also just wish the designs stood out more.
This game has so much potential and I have no idea whats holding it back
@@kevinvu5432 while the product I ended up playing was indeed a fun play, I do agree. I think it mostly falls to dated development ideas. (I. E. Dungeons, lack of music what's there is good but gets under your skin when you're in a dungeon for 2hrs, missed opportunity with the friendship system- really throws me off when the quests repeat and they have the same voice lines/Quest lines.) now what's there is definetely great for the price, I doubt I'd buy it if it were a dollar more now knowing what I do.
Wow, that's a very good and informative review. I like the format. No unnecessary commentary or jokes. Even though you have played 33 hours of it, the review is easy to understand for anyone who hasn't played the game. You also didn't dig too deep into the story / character relationships / character names, etc., just a simple top level overview of things with a focus on game mechanics, which is good. Also a nice voice and speaking pace. I hope you don't mind if I subscribe :)
Found this gem after NIS America has twitted it btw.
Thank you so much for the endorsement! I strive to not reveal as much of the story as possible and try to really talk about the mechanics that I truly enjoy. It’s a challenge and the road less traveled, but I strive to improve every single time. Thanks again!
I like this review a lot. I saw most reviewers saying it doesn't look great visually on the Switch and that the combat is a bit bizzare etc but I don't see it. Every game has its flaws, of course but still. Graphics don't really bother me, the only time it does is if I can't read text or something due to a blurry image or faint colours. That's about it. I like the style and honest I like the choice to embellish the combat. The 500 NPCs seems a bit excessive but I don't totally hate the idea. It does make it clear as well that this is a dungeon crawler so people complaining about the stream of gameplay in twisting dungeons doesn't real mean much to me. Got this for my Switch today and I do not regret it. I feel like I can play this in my down time but I also wouldn't mind playing it on the bus on my way home from work either. Seems weird people compare it to Persona as well. I know the creator comes from the Persona games but that doesn't mean that EVERYTHING is going to be like what we expect from Persona because they're different games. No-one wants a game they create to be a clone of a more successful game they've already done because then you look like a one trick pony.
Thank you for your comment! To be honest, it took me a bit to realize that I was playing a dungeon crawler myself. It was only after several hours that I realized that it's exactly that! I think, for the most part, if people come into this game knowing that it's a dungeon crawler that the expectations should be aligned to something like that and not Persona. I think the mere mention of the writer being involved in the early Persona games was a detriment to this game, given that it gave some players this expectation that the game plays just like that series. I agree with you that cloning games just to recycle success isn't good for the long term, and I'm happy that they went back and revisited this game for more powerful platforms. And honestly, the look and feel of the game grew on me! Who cares if the variance in enemies is just based on the weapons they use? The strategy and the combo system is addicting! I think most of my first three hours was spent trying to defeat every single opponent in the first dungeon, only to realize that they respawn infinitely! Thanks again! 😀
@@BacklogBattle No problem, thanks for the review and for responding! I totally agree, just the marketing of saying "from the creators of..." in any context kinda sets the game up on a pedestal, which I can understand as it does attract those fans, it does have an opposite effect since it makes people think it's going to play exactly the same.
Great video! You provided all the detailes I needed 🥰
Caligula Effect... A game I honestly never remember hearing about. The combat system looks really interesting through. Might as well add it to my "Maybe I'll play it someday" list.
It really has some good ideas, but there's a few things it could really stand to improve.
One thing I wished some reviewers would do would be to mention that the game is written by the father of the Persona series, Tadashi Satomi.
Also, I often feel like people are way to harsh on this game simply due to them being spoiled by P5's flash over substance.
I was actually replying to the comments about the Persona writer being involved in this game and how the mere mention of his name unfortunately set some unreasonable expectations for it. Specifically, Caligula Effect Overdose is a dungeon crawler RPG, which doesn’t play anything close like the Persona games. That said, I think the game does have a lot of redeeming qualities - it’s just coming out at a very busy time.
@@BacklogBattle Oh, I know the difference between those who make the gameplay and those who write the story. I am one of those who is very focused on the story so to me it felt somewhat important. It's also why I feel it isn't fair to compare it to persona or saying that it's a clone given who worked on it.
Agreed. I think labeling the game as a clone is a bit silly, given the battle system and the gameplay loop too!
Sounds like we have pretty similar opinions on this one, lol. Calling the opponents Mu-sicians is still one of the best puns I've heard in a while.
It is! I do find the music metaphors fitting for both the battle engine and the thematics of the story as well!
Earned my sub from this review just started playing this game! Cheers!
I really liked this review, really good job mate!
Ill prolly buy when gets a discount.
I think one thing that should probably get mentioned is that yes, music is a HUGE theme of it, and the enemies being Musicians is a deliberate choice, as they're supposed to parallel vocaloid producers in the real world. Each of the Musician dungeon themes are all composed by a vocaloid producer associated with that character (for example, Stork's producer is Deco*27, and his song is composed by him).
In general, Caligula is a series that I think won't be very impactful or interesting to you unless you end up liking the characters, bc their issues and how it relates to the theme of escapism vs growth is the major draw of it, and one that i think they really succeeded in.
This is the 2nd review I’ve seen of this game and the first positive one, I’m not sure if I’ll enjoy it but I think this game would benefit from having a demo, far as I can tell it doesn’t (least not on the switch which would be the system I’d probably use) kinda makes the $50 price tag hard to swallow. The music used in the review is catchy and it sounds like its music heavy. Just wish it had a demo.
I mentioned in the review that the game definitely has a musical theme to it and the songs, as you identified, are part of it. I forgot to mention that every time you get into battle that the game seamlessly adds in vocals and more instruments as well! I’d agree that a demo would’ve benefited this game.
What a great review! 👍
You really summed this game up almost perfectly. I'm 40 hours into this game an feel pretty much the same way.
Glad to hear it! It’s a blast to play!
This is the future of metaverse. Joke aside. It is on sale right now. Until January
Games on sale right now on PSN. Bought it because of your review. Never would have heard of it otherwise I don't think so thanks a lot and keep up the good work :)
Hope you enjoy it! It’s a great story!
There's a certain sense of balance to your thoughts within this review. Nothing superfluous, just pretty concise overall. You've earned my sub and am now planning to get this game in the near future. Can at least prioritize it at the top of the wishlist. Will grab the PC GOG version.
Thank you! I’ve been trying to improve my reviews ever since the feedback I got from my Fist of the North Star review back in September. I’m very happy that all the hard work’s paying off! Also, I hope you enjoy the game when you get it!
Love the review!
Thank you!
Will have to cop it during a sale
thanks for the review. you always have the exact info and take on the specifics i look for, or look to avoid, in a game. seems like i'll enjoy this one but will probably ignore the relationship building aspects with the 5 bajillion npcs. have you played transistor yet? the battle system looks like a multi-character version of that system, is that about right?
That’s actually fairly accurate!
I'm about 20 hours in and wanted to see what other people thought, I'm loving it so far. I can accept the flaws by looking at this as an unintentional throwback, it really reminds me of a good PS2 era JRPG. With so many great games coming out on the PS4 and Switch it's nice to play something a bit... underpowered lol. The battle system is really fun too
The battle system is probably my favorite aspect of the game! Glad to see that you're enjoying the game so far!
Can't wait to play it.
When I think of a JRPG that uses music I think of Eternal Sonata lol. This game looks like it had a lot going for it, might pick it up if/when it goes on sale for a good price
That name is a throw back! I wonder if that'll get a port since Vesperia sold well?
@@BacklogBattle I will say that it made me glad I have a Xbox 360
That gameplay at the start had me concerned until I realised that was the older Vita version. Looks a lot cleaner here. Combat looks nice but it feels like I might have to try it to get a feel for it and have a proper impression. This gets a "maybe" but looks promising.
If they made a new game with this engine and improve the presentation, it’ll be a recommended game for me!
Loved the video, the game charmed me in the same ways that you outline here, and honestly I am curious about what you think about the themes and story, as well as how the music came into play both as a storytelling mechanic as well as a real-world flavor by using real musicians for each character. Do you do spoiler or story-analysis videos often?
Glad to hear that you loved the video! Unfortunately, I don’t do a lot of analysis videos as I tend to have just enough time to review new games, make guides, or report on upcoming games. I’ll also openly admit that while I do often ruminate on said stories in private or casually via our podcast, I don’t feel that the type of attention to detail that analysis videos demand are in my wheelhouse as of yet. Perhaps, in the future, I’ll have the courage to dive deeper into said subject matter!
That said, the interconnection between music and the story is very fascinating to me and actually adds an important subtext for players who decide to dig deeper than what’s presented. I’m currently watching through the anime to see how that medium tells the story, as I’ve been told that it’s actually well done!
Backlog Battle The anime adaptation is very interesting, especially juxtaposed to Persona 5’s adaptation; Caligula gave the silent protagonist a personality, history, and unique relevance to the plot, this everything plays out quite differently. The direction is on-top, but sadly budget constraints and the fact that it came out during a season with a TON of other productions with talent spread thin do hit it in some spots.
I’m glad how you put the game. Ultimately, overdose has a rich sub plot that makes the game worth playing. I think that the relationships with the go home club and musicians could have been polished more if they sacrificed the 500 ncp thing. The wire mechanism could have also been done better. I feel like too much focused on you being able to explore and find new traits rather than the characters.
But the game is still unique and sparks inspiration for new games.
I definitely agree that the quest system could've just been jettisoned for a more refined experience with the Go-Home Club and its battle system as a whole.
I just finished the second dungeon and I'm having a lot of fun! I agree that the Causality Link thing is bland but I still get the itch to meet all NPCs or spend time chatting with them through WIRE. I'll probably pick the second one when it comes out!
Since Caligula2 has been recently announced in the jp Nintendo Direct would you also review it when it comes out in english?
I don’t see why I wouldn’t!
You made me want to play the game again. I didn't know about auto battle. It is more dungeon crawler with a light dusting of rpg. Thank you for your insightful video.
You’re welcome!
Noice! I wanna get this 😁
Nice review, Was the review on switch or PS4?
And the game is pretty pricey as of now do you think there will be a price drop sometime soon?
Thanks
The review was on PS4 and as far as sales go, no idea if it will go on sale!
Thank you I’ll have to keep an eye out and hope for a sale
Oh God, the Causality Link... it made me see my Facebook connections in a whole new light; one where managing my friendships and their complicated relations with each other PALE IN COMPARISON to that diagram!!!!
The horror, *the horror* !!!
If I liked persona 3,4, and 5 as well as Tokyo Xanadu ex plus should I try this out? Im kind of on the fence about this but i really like persona esque games.
The gameplay loop is very different. It’s closer to Etrian Odyssey (which is a dungeon RPG) than both of the RPGs you mentioned where there’s separate town and dungeon sections. The whole game is practically comprised of multiple dungeons, who just happen to have NPCs walking around. There are story elements that happen at both the beginning and end of each dungeon, but the fun is all in the combat system and improving your combos. In short: it’s very different from a Persona style game! Hope this helps!
@@BacklogBattle It helped a bunch man thanks! I might wait for a sale if it has a different feel from Persona and Tokyo Xanadu.
Really liked this game on the vita,was confusing at first the combat style but interesting and cool making combos,unlocking the passives was also a nice changes from others rpgs ,gotta test this remake
About the new endings... Do we need to play the game twice to see the new content? Or is it possible in some way to see both routes (The good guy/The bad guy) in one go?
Yes you do. Or just go the bad route and see most of both.
@@BacklogBattle Alright, thanks!
I thought about waiting for a sale but I'm still not really sure whether I should get this game or not tomorrow :p
I've been watching a lot of reviews and getting mixed thoughts about it, but the combat and the "Persona feel" look fun. Even the music sounds good and I usually dont't like when people sing in games haha xD
Personally if I had a choice between this and Sekiro which is the other game I’m looking forward to, I’d pick Sekiro. That said, it all depends if you have time for your next big game! Hope this helps!
@@BacklogBattle Sekiro is definitely a buy for me.
The thing is, I was trying to find another game to fill the Persona gap :p
Yep time is our worst enemy when there's just too many games coming out xD
I think this game is super fun! The battle system is addicting and very fun to work! Give this a go whenever you get a chance 😉
The one thing I mainly dislike about the game is if you execute skills to use on an enemy and you defeat it early the characters will attack the air even if there are other enemies left.
It's certainly some old school RPG way of designing battles right there
I started the game on Hard, figuring I could try to sus things out.
What infuriates me some is the accuracy issues and how it doesn't reflect in a real time battle system. It really feels off that a Vintage Strike has the MC run up and *clearly* kick, but seeing the words *MISS* pop up got a groan out of me.
There's also the fact that, despite doing everything I could, there was two moments in the first dungeon where I got stunlocked, and couldn't select an action, helpless to watch as my MC gets annihilated. The first one hurt quite a bit due to my progress in the dungeon past the save point, and my second death happened almost *five minutes after restarting and getting stunlocked again by two students I didn't have an issue with my first time around.* Its one thing in EO3 to watch as a Lynx tears through your party members on the first floor. At least you can try to mitigate the damage some with skills or planning. Its another thing to get annihilated into a stunlock despite selecting what should be the correct options for the situation. Certainly doesn't help that for the first few moments you're all alone.
Well to be fair about the first point it does say it's not a fortune teller. It shows you what will happen if it goes through.
@@Nirocto I know that, I can see the hit rate percentage in the corner. I'm saying that it feels really jarring when a physical attack misses and the MC carries on until he realizes that his carefully aimed kicks missed a standing target charging up their attack.
hey bro, please answer my question, because I really want to play this game, what do you think when this game is in the free roam section? is it similar to Persona?
Not even close. Practically every single area is a dungeon, hence why I describe it as a dungeon crawler RPG. It’s only the same as Persona in that the main characters are students.
@@BacklogBattle oh I see.. so every area is a dungeon.. thanks for the answer
does it come with a stigma bundle ? (dlc)
I looked into this for consoles and I couldn't find any official word from NIS America whether the base game already contains the Stigma Bundle or if it'll be available to download sometime soon. All I see on the PS Store are costumes - one of which, the casual costume, is free for me. I've looked through all the press releases NIS America sent me about it and didn't find anything. Tell you what - I'm gonna email NIS America and see if they can help me with this and I'll get back to you!
Hi there! Sorry to keep you waiting! The Stigma Bundle is only exclusive to the PC versions of the game, while the console versions have the Casual Clothes Costume as an exclusive. The latter is only going to be available for PS4 until March 26. My contact is still trying to figure out when the end date is for the Nintendo Switch promo. Thanks again for your patience and I hope this helps!
@@BacklogBattle thank you !!!!
This had a anime
Sure did! Overdose expands on the anime, and even before the anime, there was the original game!
I kind of regret getting Tokyo Xanadu over this
I'm about 5 hours in, as much as I enjoy it, there's just one thing that kills it for me: the godawful hitting percentage. I swear my characters can't hit for shit and I'm on normal. I mean the first boss took me a bit because my goddamn characters kept on missing and I was overlevelled, and so many fights take longer because my character kept missing! Like, during one fight with an enemy they would cast their guard, so I use the shield breaker - MISS - which follows with all of my characters having their attacks nullified and forcing me to wait for the next attempt. I wish the imaginary chain would consider the percentage too because it does tell you "yes this would work" but it never freaking considers the possibility to miss your target. I practically use accuracy stuff because of the piss poor hitting percentage - especially Kotaro, he's useless because he can't hit for shit.
I HOPE it gets better because I want to enjoy this game, but this accuracy trouble just nags me the wrong way: accuracy is just an artificial difficulty in my opinion and when a jrpg forces you to have accuracy just to avoid missing too often, i get turned off real quick.
It's very much in the vein of XCOM when it comes to accuracy and I can certainly tell you that it's a very important stat for me during my playthrough. I will say though that I haven't encountered what you're experiencing (i.e. even with over-leveled characters, characters miss). Hope the game gets better for you down the line!
@@BacklogBattle RNG and I don't go along so I avoid any game that highly rewards RNG in any case...and yeah considering that this game is all about % I'm not surprised if it's like xcom, a game that I know is a bitch when it comes to hit rating (A friend of mine played and told me how broken the aim system is). I just hope the rng gets better: for now I boost my stats with accuracy and hope I miss less.
I want this but can't shell out the $50 this game is asking
Gotta catch it on sale cause I was in the same boat too lol
Playing on hard, getting bullied by 4 enemies at once but somehow pulled it off, beating a level 18 boss with my level 9 squad for 20 mins.
Have to say, the game does question why you want to go back to the real world while making you realize why we shouldn't run from reality. It actually makes me think about what I should do in my life.
It’s very thought provoking, from a base level. Especially when it asks what your values are and whether or not they’re really the right things to think about. The new scenario really blows those ideas wide open and really provides an interesting perspective as well
Who knows how to save this game data when not finished
What?
This game has great concepts but it did the absolute bare minimum in many aspects. The npc social links are superficial and lack any depth, there's no facial animation, no English dub, only in game cutscenes with mediocre quality anime cutscenes, etc. There's so much more that could've been done
I was coming from the perspective of playing the original Vita game, which was far worse than what this one was. That said, relative to other games in the genre on the same platform, you are right that it certainly doesn't hold up to those standards.
The music is what made me return the game. The game is ok but god damn the music keep putting in and out. God it had me annoyed. Which sucks cuz i dont wanna play a game that i am force to play in order to finish it
So sadly cuz of the music i had to turn it over. ;(
You could have turned the music off and play your own via phone, Spotify, pc. I only say that cause I understand how you feel lol
I got this free on ps plus on ps4 and this feels so dated. The battle actions are really awkward and the mouths don’t move when talking despite this being a thing since PS2. I can see they cut costs a lot when making this game
I always have to chuckle at eastern ideas in video games when it comes to a small sized female being the guide to a party. The symbolism is obvious. Feminism or femininity represents chaos. While masculinity represents order. The sheer irony of a party being led by chaos to supposedly fight for good is a laugher. I love RPG's and JRPG's myself. That being said, I find the symbolism and story beats to be laughably nonsensical or self defeating. I guess that's why I like them because most people don't realize what the story is actually saying, despite intent, is that humanity is actually chaotic and not to be trusted. Lol.
It's funny to me that almost every story east or west pits humanity against a higher power that attempts to assert rule or law. In these stories the arguments for humanity, that it is unique because of it's short life, is actually undercut by the symbolism. The symbolism in all these stories says that the villains are actually correct and humanity cannot properly rule themselves. Not a shock this is theism vs atheism or humanism playing out. The defenses for humanism are so comically shallow that you always get the same tired, Obviously flawed response. Which basically amounts to: Because feelings. Lol. It's so bad. One might think there has to be a better response than that. Then you look at humanity and you go; oh yeah.... Nope lol.
Basically the argument for humanity boils down to unstable emotion. That occasionally it produces something beautiful. Nevermind all of the horrors. With all the thought put into them what you come out with is reasoning my 4 year old would make. It's absurdly unrealistic. It's like humanities flaws are terrible but the solution is to pretend that it is solved by ignoring them and saying stupid things with conviction. Utter nonsense.
For me 2 hour gameplay, was to boring
the chars look quite bland