The PlayStation TV
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I discuss the PlayStation TV, how much potential it had and how much not potential it lived up to.
This video was originally released via Card #18 of the Scott The Woz Collectible Trading Cards in late 2022.
Edited by Justin Womble and Scott Wozniak
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hearing scott has a modded ps vita filled me with an insane amount of joy. went from "owner of too stupid to hack a wii" to this.
To be fair, hacking even the PSP was extremely easy. I had hacked my buddy's for him after seeing it done once for mine and did everything right except for where I put the game file for MHP3rd with no experience at using a computer.
Idk his stance on modding lol
@@pokesukohe said he tried in his video on we dare to remove the region lock but it didn’t work so he ended up buying a European Wii U. Very Scott.
@@2tmb904classic Mac owner behavior
@@chironthecuddley6144 And hacking the wii just requires putting a few files on an sd card and slotting it in, yet Scott was still unable to do it for years.
The fact that the PSTV locks you out of games that require vita exclusive features, but works perfectly with a PS4 controller after system updates BUT doesn’t let you use the PS4’s gyro & touchpad to replace the Vita’s ones, is the most baffling thing in the world to me. It’s literally the same features!!
Could have used the PS4 camera as well for games that use the Vitas camera
I got tired reading this, actually implementing this would be even worse
@@steelbear2063lol why
Touch features are all emulated by Sony on PSTV via software, if you remove the blacklist all games are playable.
you can use the ps4 touchpad for both front and back touchpads
The biggest design flaw about the PlayStation TV / Vita TV is that they didn´t design it with using a Vita as the Controller in mind. Like, use a PS3 Controller for very limited compatibility, a PS4 Controller for slightly better compatibility, and a Vita as the Contoller for full 100% compatibility with games.
That's a misconception, every single game can be played on the PS TV once hacked. The touch features were emulated perfectly with a PS3 contoller, the real issue was the software blacklist in place by sony due the licensing issues.
You would be foolish not to hack a Vita / pstv at this point.
I have this same complaint about steam deck. Cant use it as a controller without streaming the whole game to it
If they'd really care, they could have just made a brand new controller with a touch pad and camera. So basically a Vita without the screen. But it would have looked cool!
@@Jokerwolf666how is that a misconception if it’s not normally available without hacking it ??
@@e7193 The touch emulation is there by default without hacking Sony made it already and it works pretty good, all I am saying is the blacklist can be removed easily so that all games work. It is your hardware at the end of the day and can do whatever you want to it.
Love how Scott always plays the Resetti music from Animal Crossing whenever he discusses utterly massive video game industry fails.
vita is not a failure F%$K YOUUUU !
That's actually incredibly funny.
The dread of hearing that music in animal crossing, in this context makes more sense
Quite fitting
I was about to mention that. It’s incredibly fitting.
Morning all I TAK DALEJ i Minecraft 10:01
Scott :” this is my favorite piece of shit little failure “
The Wii U:”I THOUGHT WHAT WE HAD WAS SPECIAL “!!!!
That’s a big failure since it’s larger.
Except that the Wii U wasn't a failure, it was a miscarriage disguised as a breathing being in order to collect child benefits.
Wii U was a failure in part marketing for people not knowing it was a new console and also doubling down in a gimmick motion controls. At least it had games available, Vita’s whole concept is underwhelming and misleading.
Not the Vita I meant the TV “Vita”.
@@leonroI didn’t steal the car officer, I was borrowing with the intent of giving it back down the line.
Here's a fun PlayStation TV fact! It is how I found your channel like 6 years ago! I'm a huge PS Vita fan and I was trying to find a bunch of different reviews and stuff on the PSTV to see if it was worth getting. And I found your micro consoles video like only maybe a week after it was uploaded? It was so enjoyable that I went and watched your whole backlog. And have been a fan ever since
The fact that the Playstation TV CANNOT be used to watch Television actively upsets me. Playstation as a brand is ruined for me now.
But yet, Sony had a over-the-top TV service called "Playstation Vue" that never took off either. It was made due to Sony not wanting to make a tuner for North American PS3s.
It closed down in 2020 with the official statement one year earlier that cable TV has 'been slower to change than we expected'.
That’s what I was thinking too. Why include the name “TV” in the device if you can’t watch tv with it, like with those streaming boxes.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Both Sony and xbox have failed us especially older gamers what trash has this come to
Why let something that happened in 2014 ruin the whole brand for you?
There's plenty of things Sony is doing now that is worth your ire
Not buying PlayStation TV's en masse before the resale value quadrupled is the gaming equivalent of not purchasing a house before the recession.
How much are they going for now?
@@SpeedsterBlur About $110 loose or $150 CIB.
I’m so happy I got mine right before the price skyrocketed
fr, i remember these being like 40$ or less at some point.
I got mine for $35 back in 2015. Absolutely insane value for an entire system. And some games, such as Freedom Wars play FAR better with an actual controller rather than a Vita.
One of the best purchases I've ever made.
I literally bought a PlayStation TV Bundle for 30 dollars on clearance just for the PS3 Controller it came with back around 2016.
That's exactly what I did too. Was cheaper than getting the controller by itself. I still have it, just don't really have any use for it
@@MistaTrizzTVI’ll buy it from you if you don’t want it
@@MistaTrizzTVplay persona
All of the Scott's Stash videos are just amazing to have in the background while I'm doing other things. But sometimes I just find myself realizing I missed big chunks of the video while I was distracted so I just go back so I can hear more about all these niche gaming ramblings I love
Persona 4 Golden was the only MUST HAVE and it was essentially a re-release, but damn I loved it
Not really tho
@@reaction9918 yeah really tho
been playing through recently for my first time and its a blast!
The only thing that made the Vita horrible was the super expensive and proprietary storage they used. Sony let it die, if they had put even a fraction of attention into post launch of the Vita as Nintendo did any of their other handhelds, its possible it wouldve done so much better, it was a fantastic system. Especially the AMOLED model. Thankfully the modding community has kept it going over the years.
Meanwhile nowadays we just get some garbage streaming tablet that nobody asked for. We want native hardware gaming like I can already do on a Lenovo legion go.
@@JudeTheUA-camPoopersubscribe indeed, the Switch is a damn fine system though. as for PC handheld gaming, Steamdeck over the Legion Go just because Windows on handheld sucks.
0:01 giving me flashbacks to my parents
damn bro...
Of course Tom Holland would love Uncharted.
Obligatory "this dude looks like every Peter Parker at once" comment
@@Dairunt1have you ever seen spiderman and scott in the same place? No, didn't think so
Man this AVGN episode is great! A real return to form for James
Bimmy has no time for the PSTV. Do you expect him to suffer?
Dont you have the colour of someone elses shirt buttons to be crying about?
@sonyPlaytation No crying, I refuse.
Big Rex Viper fan btw! 🐍 🐍 🐍
I love my Vitas.
This video has inspired me to finish Persona 4 Golden
As someone who is currently playing P4G, let’s do it together ❤
Persona 4 Golden is fantastic. Need to go back and finish getting the achievements one day
@@DubsBrownhope yall enjoy you will probably cry
@@lucyakaluckstat That's what I like to hear
@@lucyakaluckstat finished P5R, P5S and P5T last year and my eyes were sweating in all 3 credits.
I have the tissue box ready for when I beat golden and reload this year
Scott plays Gex: Enter the Gecko in this video when explaining the few things the Playstation TV can do.
The PS Vita TV was an even bigger missed opportunity than the handheld Vita! Because Sony tried to limit so many games that can be played on that device! They should’ve allowed majority support of Vita games, kind of like how the GameCube’s Game Boy player worked, but as a standalone device! Thanks to modding, that device is more playable than when it was originally released!
The real missed opportunity was not being able to have Netflix on it.
It would have exploded if we were able to have Netflix/UA-cam/Hulu/prime on it.
@@alexiz424 yeah, not having video streaming apps like Netflix and UA-cam was a big disappointment, but I don’t think it would’ve helped much, since cheap streaming boxes and even smart TVs with streaming apps were already on the market. I feel Sony didn’t even bother to make it playable with most Vita games, and the lack of multiplayer mode that would’ve allowed two players to play with each other!
It warms my heart to know that despite the PS Vita TV being such a big wasted opportunity, Scott still bothered to install Gex: Enter the Gecko on that thing.
The Killzone Mercenaries multiplayer is still one of my favourite multiplayer experiences. I could rant forever about how fun addictive and balanced that thing was
Legit, that game had a strong community, and had to be peak handheld FPS gaming at the time.
I remember logging back in when studio Cambridge closed, and played online for hours as my final goodbye to Mercenary
Justin did a great job editing this!
The ps vita is my baby so I'm always really sad that it was never given the full support it needed. A lot of the games it was ideal for (visual novels. jrpgs, the like) just weren't huge in America which made it not get the big blood it needed.
i remember seeing this in walmart on a crazy cheap clearance price and i never bought it. till this day i regret not buying it.... until i watched this video. thank you! i dont feel bad anymore.
The Persona 4 Golden machine!
I bought the vita and a copy of golden after it got ported to pc due to me having a terrible pc
@@lucyakaluckstat how terrible? my laptop is hot garbage and p4g ran
@@KaiMCGRPS it drops frames playing half life 2
@@lucyakaluckstat HL2. That brings back bad memories! It was the only time I had tried PC gaming. I had a brand new PC when HL2 released, so I thought, why not. I was loving the game (but controlling with a keyboard is really spastic), I got about 50% of the way through when the Motherboard failed! I lost everything, and couldn't bear to start again when my PC was repaired. Years later I bought The Orange Box for PS3 - and completed it!
@@lemming9984 ironic because i can't play any half life game without keyboard and mouse
Awesome to see you cover the Vita! It never gets enough love. Killzone with a few friends on the couch and a few online players was some fantastic times back in 2016. Gather some mates, a few Vitas and try out some multiplayer fun on the couch, fantastic fun.
@@GloryboyquanIf that's the case he talked trash about the Virtual Boy.
@ShortMiao bro vitual boy is ass across the board Scott been Nintendo fan boy for years dude
@@Gloryboyquan If he was that much of a fanboy to trash on other consoles but not on Nintendo consoles he wouldn't have trashed on the Virtual Boy, which yeah, sucks ass. You're just proving my point.
i actually picked this thing up a couple of days ago bc of the modding scene and i fell in LOVE. it is so pointless and so useless without modding though so props to sony for somehow creating a product that just. exists and barely works without a whitelister *shrug*
That's why Sony has now made the PS portal, which seems to be worthless even if it could ever be modded.
Wonder if you got it at a good price. It can be pretty expensive, especially CIB.
if you have to mod something for it to be "good" (a piracy brick), then it's not good
@@SuperM789 Yeah, that means the original product isn't good, but it can still be turned into something good. That's like saying a phone with a busted battery isn't good or doesn't have value because you need to replace the part to make it usable.
@@Kevo6492 more than MSRP unfortunately (~$150)
"I dont think the Vita had that MUST HAVE title."
Persona 4 Golden: "Am I a joke to you?"
YES
Project diva F and F2nd (we don’t talk about X)
Man that sounded like genuine frustration about Tetris not being compatible for the PSTV. Have to agree - it doesn't make sense for that of all games to not work.
It was soooo close… imagine for example a screenless switch and pro controller bundle with support for 4K (on the video streaming, not the games obviously) for like $200. It just needed
-PS3 GUI
-support for all viable vita games
-option to stream full fat ps3/4 games through Sony paid service
-cross buy and cross save with main consoles for relevant titles
15:14 WAS THAT SCOTT THE WOZ, THE NOT AN RPG GUY PLAYING PERSONA 4 ONE OF THE MOST WELL KNOWN RPGS OF ALL TIME
Funnily enough, there actually *was* a Playstation-branded TV box. It was named the PlayStation Vue, and would let you watch linear TV channels. Got launched back in 2015 but was shut down in early 2020 likely for costly reasons. I knew of its existence because my family used to own a Vue.
My “must have game” for the PSVita was Soul Sacrifice. I loved that game!
The update was also really solid too.
The Delta additions were pretty fun
My only "must play" is Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time.
Multiplayer was what made Killzone the bees knees on Vita at the time. Love it when Scott covers Vita!
The Playstation TV was bizarrely good for Koei Tecmo games released during that period, like the Dynasty Warriors 8 and Samurai Warriors 4 series of titles. The Vita versions of those and a few others would actually map the L2/R2 buttons on the PS3/4 controllers to do the same things as they do in their console counterparts, offloading what was pushed to the touchscreen ot back pad make up for the lack of buttons on the PS Vita.
true don't forget Berserk, Dragon Quest and One Piece musou/warriors games theyr all there
I picked up one of these for like $25 on ebay. Months later Walmart had like 6 of them in a box for $19.99 each. Had I known how much these would go for, I would have bought them all.
I got addicted to drugs and pawned my playstation vita. I’m better now but I still don’t have a Vita. Don’t do drugs kids.
real(not a drug addict but i also adore the vita )
But what if I'm sick
saw it on sale in a local shop for $60 . I wanted it mainly to play MGS 2&3 , glad that I had seen your vid first . thanx bro
Scott, you can only truly experience the ps vita ecosystem in it's entirely if you beat Persona 4 Golden.
That game is literally in the Vita's DNA man, do it.
god i will watch any scott video the second it drops
What if he roasted you and all your loved ones for 2 hours?
Comment timing checks out
"This is my favourite piece of sh*t, little failure." Why is Scott imitating my parents?
FINALLY SCOTT TALKS ABOUT THE PS VITA!!
I LOVE IT SO MUCH.
I really like this channel, don’t get me wrong I love the regular Scott channel but there’s something intimate about this one makes me feel like I’m in a friends bedroom
🤔...I wish I would've known all this back then, because I totally would've gotten one...🤘🏼💯✔️ I just didn't know much about it, and didn't know what it was...👌🏼
I got the Vita day 1 for WipEout and played it fervently. I love everything about it's aesthetic. Aqua Blue Vita 3000 with that gorgeous UI and lovely home music? That is peak late 2000's/early 2010's. Lovely device. The main issue with the Vita from a hardware angle is the proprietary bullshit. The memory stick fiasco was unbelievable. Something like $60 for 16gb *Sony* memory card and that awful charging port.
Funnily enough, the PS Vita prototype/dev unit actually has a mini HDMI output, which mirrors the screen to an external display.
They should have bundled a TV remote with it as well along with streaming apps. The would have been a USP.
My greatest regret was not getting a PSTV at Best Buy when they were going for $20 new. I decided it was redundant because I already had a Vita, but the controller alone was worth more than that and I fumbled hard not doing it. They go for insane prices used now.
I didn't realize the PSP and PSVita were two different things until he said "The PSP' seven minutes in and he may as well have said "The World" because time fucking stopped.
PSP was 2004, PS Vita was 2012
Not sure how you'd mix them up lol
Holy shit that punchline was so good lmao
When you had your PS TV and your PS4 hardwired to your router. The PS TV was a surprisingly good remote play experience. I remember remote playing Destiny 1 all the time from the bedroom. Both had to be hard wired tho.
Went through middle school and high school with this console. Great console (I mean the vita I didn’t have a pstv💀)
I speak for everyone when I say we’d love a full Scott the Woz episode on the PlayStation Vita
If it was called Playstation Sees Ghosts, you would've given it a 10.
Wait wrong channel
Hey all, Scott here, the Internet’s busiest Wii U nerd
Scotthony Wiztano
PlayStation Kids see ghosts
This comment gave me an aneurysm
To Pimp A Vita
I unironically believe this is what Nintendo should do for the “Switch Pro.”
Make a beefed up, home only console, save money on the screen/battery, accept switch cartridges while allowing for more intensive games.
that thing you said about uncharted golden abyss being a cool thing to just say "hey im playing uncharted on the go" is SO real. i feel like nowadays more than ever actual portable games dont exist anymore, like the pick up and play short 5-10 minute level games arent present anymore. 2 of my classmates have steam decks and they load big open world AAA games on them and whenever we have like 2 hours to ourselves at school they play for like 40m, get bored of the game due to a roadblock or something else, and stop playing. meanwhile i pull out my 3ds and play donkey kong country returns and beat a level in 3 minutes
Gravity Rush was pretty cool on the vita. I hear that background music...
1:50 TRIGGER HAPPY HAVOC SPOTTED
As a fan of the vita, I was a shocked that we did not get a Gran Turismo game for the system.
I wasn't prepared for the gallor of scott content. I really appreciate it.
I bought the Lego bundle on clearance at Walmart for like $50 bucks. I had never heard of it before, but I was extremely excited to try it out. I was incredibly upset that it wasn't compatible with 90% of my Vita library, but I did use it a TON for PS4 remote play. Of course, back then PS4's were expensive. Now a days you can just pickup a used PS4 to use in another room. But I did get some good use out of it. You could connect PS4 controllers to it as well. Which was strange to be able to connect PS3 and PS4 controllers. But I used a PS4 controller on it because it was mainly a remote play device for me. Wifi was trash, but that ethernet port made for a near perfect remote play device.
I absolutely love the vita! The japanese physical library is amazing. The 1000/2000/tv moding communities are also amazing, and are still extremely active.
You have to manually update the app to get them to play.
From my childhood games, the only MUST PLAY for me is Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time. That's the only game that I would recommend to someone who doesn't own a Vita
the thing with the metal gear solid hd collection on vita is that, for some reason, changing weapons is done using the touch screen. you have to touch the weapon icons and slide, its awful.
The PSP is the perfect little machine for playing Tony Hawk games on the go. I played 1000s of hours of THUG2 on mine.
Playing through Gravity Rush hooked up to my PC through OBS atm. You run into a few sticky situations where you can't see where you need touch the touch pad but other than that, it solves most of problems the the VitaTV has.
The game has a full on native PS4 port and all they really did was up the resolution and map the touch controls to the touchpad, which I never used. The game should’ve been on console first
Playing MGS 2&3 was fun when I first got it years ago especially as my first metal gear game
Wish mine still worked. Borked the HDMI port by reconnecting it too many times :(
Paid $30 for a PSTV years ago. I played through a few Vita games on it, but it ended up being mostly used for PS1 and PSP games. I have three Vita handhelds for Vita games. In order of purchase, a White OLED [$160 👍], an Aqua Blue Slim [$380 😅], and a Black OLED [$99 🤯]. The Black OLED was fairly scratched up, so that's how it was so cheap. The screen wasn't too bad, and I bought an adhesive screen cover that covers the entire glossy front of the OLED Vita. The screen looks almost perfect with the cover. I had the two other Vita's for a while, but didn't want to hack them, so I figured a cheap, scuffed up Vita was a great test unit in case I messed up.
Scott is the type of guy that gets blood all over his face when trying to mod a Wii that takes 2 minutes but has a perfectly clean face when trying to mod a Vita.
The Vita introduced me to the Persona series, so it's got a place in my heart.
I remember seeing these things all over stores in like 2015 or so (I assume they were just trying to get rid of them by then) and as someone who has never been a PlayStation guy I genuinely always thought these were just little streaming boxes.
Sadly, I tend to forget that the Vita even existed; I always think of the PSP as the only Playstation handheld. I didn't know anyone who owned one, and I don't recall anyone ever talking about it online back when it should have been at its peak.
Honestly, as someone who owned a Ps Vita and a Wii U I never felt the „not enough games“ because there were still more games that I wanted to play than I could possibly play. The SD cards were horrible tho
The good thing about those „abandoned“ systems is that the hacking/homebrew community always turns them into something amazing so I have two great homebrew consoles
In these videos, I like to image there are other people in the room with Scott and he's just ranting for 22 minutes over the PlayStation TV while everyone just sits there like "Jesus, Scott is passionate about this".
I genuinely loved my PSTV a lot. I think the name was stupid, and the controller support and features could have been fixed. I used it mostly for playing old jRPGs, and a couple more recent games. I love handheld games, but I wasn't traveling at the time. I bought like fourteen games and I have beaten like 12 of them. The main reason I stopped buying games for it was entirely because they made it so I couldn't anymore.
Now that I am traveling more again, and playing handhelds it wouldn't be as helpful. I could see something like the vita helping me now, but at the time it was just perfect for me. It's pretty pointless for most people but I wanted to play in my office or room and I've never owned a vita. It was a great solution for like me and three other people.
So cool to see a comment like this, that’s literally what I want the PSTV for , old JRPGS like parasite Eve . Hoping I can find one for a good price, I’d buy yours if you’re done with it!
Got one of these for $50 JUST to play Sly 4.
Was worth it.
Is the quality of the video only so bad for me?
It's really bad for me as well
same
Oh ok. Now I know that it is a problem with the video and not with my wifi. I have never even seen that the option to change resolution isn't accassible...
Killzone: Mercenary was the only entry in that series I played all the way through to completion. Loved it. Thought the levels were varied. Shooting and melee (w/touch controls) felt great. Absolutely the best true portable FPS.
Imagine if NintendoTVii was just a 3DS for your TV (that’s basically the Wii U) BUT that can’t play MarioKart.
Seeing how much Sony showed they could innovate makes me all the more sad at what the PlayStation Portal ended up being, it could’ve had so much potential, but just ended up being no different than a phone with a Backbone attached, and it sucks too because the Vita showed that a handheld could be it’s own thing and still work with remote play well
I grew up with the Original model 3ds Flame Red one. Never heard of the PSP nor the PSVITA at all. Just seen more of PS3 and Xbox 360. Then again, I got my games from GameStop. My 3DS is now unfortunately broken right now, kinda wanna pay a repair youtuber as a challenge to fix it. Besides the point, I first borrowed one of my brother's PSP 3000 around when Covid happened. And oh my god I loved it. Since then I have purchased maybe over 5 psp. Currently the PSP 1000 is my favorite. Fast forward to 2023, When I imported a VITA 1000 from Japan with everything in the box, I love it. Still have it and use it daily. God both the PSP and Vita are amazing.
My biggest gripe about the Ps Vita series was the memory cards proprietary size and seemingly easy corruptible went through 3 of them.
I wanted one of these so bad for project diva
Project diva is also on ps3 and ps4 if you have those.
I did it for it and P4 golden
It was worth when i buy it, but now? Get a ps3, its more worth, vita is super overpriced , and so the games
Also project X is not as good a F, get the F variations
I have so many fond memories of playing the Vita. My dad got me mine for Christmas & it came with Call Of Duty: Black Ops Declassified. Uncharted was my second game, just incredible! Once I completed that I got Assassins Creed 3: Liberation, was not a fan as I didn’t understand it. And lastly I got Ninja Gaiden Sigma, I never completed it because it’s so hard, but it was so much fun!
The way Scott introduced this video is the same way my parents introduce me to
8 and a half minutes in: When I remembered this video wasn't about the Vita itself.
true😂
Man, I love that console you can mod it and it works with all the games
Who's idea was it to make Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time compatible but not the original trilogy?
I still have mine, it's great for couch coop multiplayer if you have 2 controllers for a few games, and a good library of fighter and shooters if you have another Vita.
I think the streaming services didn't work because of security and TV resolution. The Vita worked at a lower resolution, and so the chipset didn't need to be that powerful. Also, with the built in screen, there was less worry about pirating content since it was "locked" to the vita screen. The Playstation TV would have been a larger security hole.
the steam deck shows that cool dedicated things are still big, you just have to do them right
I didn't know you could put psp games along with memory.
I didn't know it was that tiny. I thought it was going to be big and bulky.
I think you're better at promoting it than Sony.
Paid £5 for mine, brand new. Gotta love when Asda want rid of something. The device itself - pants
I got this for Christmas in 2014 (I saw 7) with The Lego Movie game bundled in, but I never used it because I didn't know how to plug it in, It's definitely somewhere inside my couch right now
I also remember bragging to my family that it was a PS4 lmao
The only thing I know about this device is that it's apparently the fastest way to speed run "a bug's Life" for the ps1
One of the PlayStation TV’s of all time
Surprisingly some PSP games weren't actually supported, like Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles.
It's like... WHY?? What's preventing this game from functioning??
Honestly not keeping the name PSVita TV outside of Japan was really confusing. When this came out I had no idea that it could even play Vita games nor had any relation to PSVita. I thought it was purely an Apple TV / Roku type streaming device that just happened to have the PlayStation name.
One of my friends had a psvita when it came out and he had madden 13 for it and it was very impressive one he did not like was the memory cards were so expensive but I don’t no if he still has it. But what hurt the psvita the most was the proprietary memory cards if the psvita use normal cards then more people would have brought it and Sony would keep making games for it
The psvita was ahead of its time. I had one and was really excited for it. I truly was expecting another psp and it sucks that it fell short or we might have a ps4 equivalent handheld at this point.