What a coincidence. My grandfather had a 1963 Cammanche 250. I fond memories flying that plane with him for a good part of my life. I really miss it. Ironically the FAA website show's it located in Ridgecrest CA, a bit south of me now.
You lucky guys. you have the beautiful blue skies and clear weather, not to mention that beautiful scenery :) i wish i was there to fly with you guys. What you need now are the MTDs. All of you and you can do some serious long range formation flying.
rsowder My Twin Dream, dual motors new FPV Plane that we have flown for 50km and recent test we flown it with 5kgs of batteries inside its belly upto 4 hours :) we are trying to attempt a 200km flight with it :) amazing plane. you can find reviews on my channel or just google it
Beautiful sailplane! I am an RC Plane guy but I have never flown a sailplane like this before! I have been struggling with multi-rotors for my FPV for the last 4 months but I am thinking that I need to back-up and go in this direction! Beautiful vid man! :)
That is a cool coincidence. Man everytime I fly in this thing I always listen really hard to make sure that the retracts sound right because I cant bring myself to believe the green gear-down light. I hate retract landing gear and expect a belly-flop every time we land. BTW flying is my number one fear in this world and thats why I am so drawn to it I think. Sometimes I feel like I know too much about how planes work and thats why they scare the shit out of me. A commercial flight is horror 4 me
I fly my buddies full scale 1963 Comanche and I love it. Yeah I have a quad too but I am not finding it to be all that boring but if I dont learn to fly it very soon I am going to find it in the damn trash-can! Lol I have the worlds most useless FC board the (KK Original) and it seems that any FC that I find thats better is either always out-O-stock ->(KK2) or costs too much ->(DJI NAZA). I really want to built a BIG Octo-Copt but I have to learn this quad CRAP first.Frustrating Hobby :( lol
I'm glad you asked about the UHF antenna's. So far I'm getting horrible RC range. I'm not sure that it's the antenna arrangement, as I use the same on all my planes. But I did buy a spectrum analyzer and found that something on the wing is emitting allot of RF compared to my other planes. I'm in the process of figuring that one out. Rmontiel has one of his antenna's in the tail and it obviously works great for him.
I did all the ferrite rings, filters etc. Nothing worked. I found using my spectrum analyzer that the video Tx on 1280Mhz had a rise in RF noise right around the 433Mhz band. This vid Tx has two frequencies, so I switched it to 1258Mhz and the noise shifted down enough to leave 433Mhz clear. In flight tests the range increased dramatically :)
It was tight getting everything in. But because of the small space, the biggest problem is cooling for the ESC. I can't run the motor too long or it will overheat.
A few decisions made today, will make my own UHF antenna out of RG316 cable, just strip 16.4 CM braid and solder on ground element. This will be stuck onto the rudder post inside, also to keep it quiet as a mouse back there (RF), using a plastic "Bowden" style control link, moving the servo under the wing, dont like the servo back there with a big access hole, its 20g, but that needs 60g of lead in the nose to compensate if tail heavy! Good luck with the RF noise hunt by the way.
Very nice video, inspired my purchase, and just received my Fascination kit, look forward to having it ready for the summer. Is the V antenna arrangement on the fuselage for the LRS? Toying with the idea of making my own UHF antenna and sticking it to the rudder post inside, just a little short for the ground element but would be neat! Also waiting for a RV OSD system to arrive, like the simplicity, find the Eagle tree a little messy for installation, will have to buy another tracker though!
What do you use to record your flight from the video out? Its my biggest problem yet! I want a good pvr that is 12 volts in but still has the best ease of use after recording. I am a noob. Finding a good composite recorder that can handle anything from composite (and upwards) for the future have been a problem for me
How do you like the Vid Tx Antenna: 1.3GHz Vee (Range Video)? did you have to cut it? I have one with a patch antenna and I'm putting on a plane but this is the first one I have seen at work. I have a 1.280Mhz and the 1.258Mhz 400mw Vtx, good video, and flying.
check for ground loops in the system. also, put ferrite rings on noise making devices such as cameras, video transmitter, also capacitor on video tx power supply close to the tx. also get physical seperation of the lrs reciever on the plane, use diepoles if possible. they outperform sander style antennnas. and put fetrrite rings on all the servo wires going to the reciever. anything with a voltage regulator can make noise. the spectrum analyzer will be a great help. wish u the best.
Really i hope you sinced learned it good. The KK board is great for learning although kk2 firmware 1.5 is a big improvement. You can easily flip and stuff with kk and you learned the right way without autolevel.
HI, what is the latest technology for FPV ( Camera+Plane+Radio), i did many searches in the web and i am lost. i think you are expert so that is way I am asking you :) my question in another way, what you will buy If you want to buy a new plane with radio with fpv camera today
My newest and favorite plane is the RMRC Anaconda. You can also contact them with specific questions on what the latest gear is for FPV and what they would recommend. www.readymaderc.com/support/
I did have to add some weight to the nose as I mounted the elevator servo in the tail. With all the FPV gear, there was no room to mount the servo where the manufacturer suggested.
Nice, did you guys get so super 0 wind conditions? Most fpv videos with daylight are full of gusting air, thermals, etc... not very ideal for filming... but views from your sailplanes are smooth!!!
Is the video with the OSD data (@1:15) being recorded on the ground or in the air? I don't think I have seen FPV video that clear or constant before. Absolutely amazing.
I like the heat sink idea, but landing on the belly on a dry lake bed, which I do from time to time would damage it. Maybe I can mount it coming out of the side of the fuselage.
Awesome How fast does it travel? I am asking because I want to use a glider for FPV and I think I glider which is not just a floater and can fly distances with a bit of speed is a good idea :) I see the OSD-Screen but no idea where the speed is :D
I have had it up to 70 mph (112 kph) but my flight controls are loose and half the left elevon came off and both aileron servos disconnected. Got it back safely though. If they were tighter (not loose) I'm sure it could do 100 mph +.
How is the camera guy getting such perfect tracking of the glider? Is he using one of those things where the camera is directed by an accelerometer in the goggles?
So far I have no complaints. I use a home made dipole for my long range flights, but I have taken the "V" to over 5 miles with perfect video. I have not run out of range with one yet.
I have a problem and that is finding one to fly with :) and finding a place where I can fly from :) But then again I live in Europe...:) Thank's for sharing
Thank you. I use to fly full scale gliders, so I wanted a similar experience. That's why I got the sailplane. I have a Quad copter aslo, but I kind of find them boring myself ;)
The flight camera is an SN555 and the HD is a Mobius. I think the RMRC700Pro is better and I'm going to change to that one. You can find both cameras at RMRC: www.readymaderc.com/store/
That was the Eagle Tree OSD Pro. I have since upgraded to the Eagle Tree Vector which has color graphics plus many other upgrades: www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11_21&products_id=2307
I love it when the sailplane engages it's motor and the plane following just sees it float up into the air effortlessly. The normal plane has to go vertical to keep up! XD
Hi Rsowder, may I ask you where you have the CG? I have this great glider w/the ET OSD, but with the CG at 90cm the glider has a feedback more slower. Another question, do you use the stabilization? In my aircraft when the OSD try to stabilize (w/ only the ailerons), is manifested a yaw (rightly). to you does it? How did you solve it? Many thanks and have a good Xmas
I use the stock CG. I'm not sure what the number is, but it's in the manual. I use to use the ET OSD Pro, but I have since upgraded to the ET Vector. It does have some yaw issues as do most long winged gliders, but the vector also stabilizes the yaw axis.
rsowder Many Tks for your answer. So when you used the OSD Pro, does not you used the stabilization? For me, now, the only way to fly well is without the stabilization. And I don't think that the RTH can work well. For the RTH, how did you when you had the OSDPro? Many Tks again. Have a nice flight ;)
John Smith Yes, I did use stabilization. And the RTH worked well. I can't remember if the OSD Pro can do it, but on the vector, I have the motor set for only climb, not cruise flight. So, if the glider is above the target altitude, the motor will not come on.
wonderful glider, can you provide some pictures on how you managed to get the FPV gear installed in the plane so neatly please
What a coincidence. My grandfather had a 1963 Cammanche 250. I fond memories flying that plane with him for a good part of my life. I really miss it. Ironically the FAA website show's it located in Ridgecrest CA, a bit south of me now.
You lucky guys. you have the beautiful blue skies and clear weather, not to mention that beautiful scenery :) i wish i was there to fly with you guys. What you need now are the MTDs. All of you and you can do some serious long range formation flying.
Thanks! We are lucky to live in this area :) What is an MTD?
rsowder My Twin Dream, dual motors new FPV Plane that we have flown for 50km and recent test we flown it with 5kgs of batteries inside its belly upto 4 hours :) we are trying to attempt a 200km flight with it :) amazing plane. you can find reviews on my channel or just google it
alishanmao Sounds cool. I'll check it out.
Is there anything more cooler, than an rc sailplane in flight?...No, I don't believe there is! :)
I think your observation is spot on :-)
Love this (y)...
i have a question..
could you give me some clue how to combine monitoring and mapping feature in one uav (fixed wing plane)??
Beautiful sailplane! I am an RC Plane guy but I have never flown a sailplane like this before! I have been struggling with multi-rotors for my FPV for the last 4 months but I am thinking that I need to back-up and go in this direction! Beautiful vid man! :)
That is a cool coincidence. Man everytime I fly in this thing I always listen really hard to make sure that the retracts sound right because I cant bring myself to believe the green gear-down light. I hate retract landing gear and expect a belly-flop every time we land. BTW flying is my number one fear in this world and thats why I am so drawn to it I think. Sometimes I feel like I know too much about how planes work and thats why they scare the shit out of me. A commercial flight is horror 4 me
I fly my buddies full scale 1963 Comanche and I love it. Yeah I have a quad too but I am not finding it to be all that boring but if I dont learn to fly it very soon I am going to find it in the damn trash-can! Lol I have the worlds most useless FC board the (KK Original) and it seems that any FC that I find thats better is either always out-O-stock ->(KK2) or costs too much ->(DJI NAZA). I really want to built a BIG Octo-Copt but I have to learn this quad CRAP first.Frustrating Hobby :( lol
I'm glad you asked about the UHF antenna's. So far I'm getting horrible RC range. I'm not sure that it's the antenna arrangement, as I use the same on all my planes. But I did buy a spectrum analyzer and found that something on the wing is emitting allot of RF compared to my other planes. I'm in the process of figuring that one out. Rmontiel has one of his antenna's in the tail and it obviously works great for him.
I did all the ferrite rings, filters etc. Nothing worked. I found using my spectrum analyzer that the video Tx on 1280Mhz had a rise in RF noise right around the 433Mhz band. This vid Tx has two frequencies, so I switched it to 1258Mhz and the noise shifted down enough to leave 433Mhz clear. In flight tests the range increased dramatically :)
It was tight getting everything in. But because of the small space, the biggest problem is cooling for the ESC. I can't run the motor too long or it will overheat.
I have taken that antenna out about 6 miles on another plane. I did not trim it and the video was perfect. I use a home made bi-quad on the rx.
A few decisions made today, will make my own UHF antenna out of RG316 cable, just strip 16.4 CM braid and solder on ground element. This will be stuck onto the rudder post inside, also to keep it quiet as a mouse back there (RF), using a plastic "Bowden" style control link, moving the servo under the wing, dont like the servo back there with a big access hole, its 20g, but that needs 60g of lead in the nose to compensate if tail heavy!
Good luck with the RF noise hunt by the way.
Very nice video, inspired my purchase, and just received my Fascination kit, look forward to having it ready for the summer. Is the V antenna arrangement on the fuselage for the LRS?
Toying with the idea of making my own UHF antenna and sticking it to the rudder post inside, just a little short for the ground element but would be neat!
Also waiting for a RV OSD system to arrive, like the simplicity, find the Eagle tree a little messy for installation, will have to buy another tracker though!
What do you use to record your flight from the video out? Its my biggest problem yet! I want a good pvr that is 12 volts in but still has the best ease of use after recording. I am a noob. Finding a good composite recorder that can handle anything from composite (and upwards) for the future have been a problem for me
rsowder FPV aircraft (F450 quad NAZA-M GPS) is just a couple of days away from being ready man. I am so excited man.
I use the Japan FPV DVR. Works great and is easy to use. It aslo doesn't go to "blue screen" when the signal is lost.
No. I have 1258 and 1280 on this one. Need longer range as I plane on doing some X-country soaring out in the desert.
Yes. I got it at Esprit Model. This is the same glider that R. Montiel set what I think it the word distance record.
The Japan dvr is small, push one button to rec and I don't have to drag my computer out there. No brainer.
The best hobby shop (although I don't care for the owner) is AeroMicro, 2090 Duane Ave, Sant Clara.
How do you like the Vid Tx Antenna: 1.3GHz Vee (Range Video)? did you have to cut it? I have one with a patch antenna and I'm putting on a plane but this is the first one I have seen at work. I have a 1.280Mhz and the 1.258Mhz 400mw Vtx, good video, and flying.
o an echelon-member i haven't subscibed too yet :P will be done after i muted this and finished searching for some fitting music :D
That was an excellent video! Greeting from Arizona.
check for ground loops in the system. also, put ferrite rings on noise making devices such as cameras, video transmitter, also capacitor on video tx power supply close to the tx. also get physical seperation of the lrs reciever on the plane, use diepoles if possible. they outperform sander style antennnas. and put fetrrite rings on all the servo wires going to the reciever. anything with a voltage regulator can make noise. the spectrum analyzer will be a great help. wish u the best.
Really i hope you sinced learned it good. The KK board is great for learning although kk2 firmware 1.5 is a big improvement.
You can easily flip and stuff with kk and you learned the right way without autolevel.
did you have to add weight to balance it ? I'm wondering if the new V-tailed version isn't easier to balance..
Great video! I live in Palo Alto- where is the best/ closest hobby shop to pick up an entry-level sailplane?
Tanks for that , I am a metric guy and could not make sense out of those numbers now I understand. 60 Mph at 25 feet its great. Nice filming as well.
The number on the left is airspeed in MPH and the right is altitude in feet.
I have a patch antenna I will try to set up with the Vee antenna I would like to get 1/2 that far out. have a good day.
Absolutely fantastic. I have one Fascination glider too. Great video.
nice idea to have a real glider as an fpv platform. was it hard to fit all the gear inside that little fuselage?
OMG That is one he** of a fuc**** lovely plane. Whats its all up cost before fpv? Only the frame and gear...
What are the two figure one the right and left of the OSD? At 1:47 one say approx 87 and the otheron 60 .
HI,
what is the latest technology for FPV ( Camera+Plane+Radio), i did many searches in the web and i am lost. i think you are expert so that is way I am asking you :) my question in another way, what you will buy If you want to buy a new plane with radio with fpv camera today
My newest and favorite plane is the RMRC Anaconda. You can also contact them with specific questions on what the latest gear is for FPV and what they would recommend. www.readymaderc.com/support/
She's a beauty! Go Topmodel, lol. I have a Prelude, but don't plan on using it for FPV.
Nice one - I might put my ET OSD in a DS1000 MG with verometer - Whats your thoughts ?
very nice ! great glider and video. is this glider available in USA ?
Bravo pilots.
Amazing camera action
I wonder why there are no videos like this of Sedona?
Great flyer! Im sure you'll get some distance out of this one!
Hi Rsowder. Did you put 2 4900mah 4s pack inside ? the description says "batteries" ;)I'm flying the same plane with same motor ;)Thanks.
Just use one 4S 5100 mAh battery.
I did have to add some weight to the nose as I mounted the elevator servo in the tail. With all the FPV gear, there was no room to mount the servo where the manufacturer suggested.
Nice, did you guys get so super 0 wind conditions? Most fpv videos with daylight are full of gusting air, thermals, etc... not very ideal for filming... but views from your sailplanes are smooth!!!
The mornings at that location are usually calm and smooth before the thermals start.
Is the video with the OSD data (@1:15) being recorded on the ground or in the air? I don't think I have seen FPV video that clear or constant before. Absolutely amazing.
It's being recorded on the ground.
You'll like the F450 Naza, I am flying one FPV myself.
I like the heat sink idea, but landing on the belly on a dry lake bed, which I do from time to time would damage it. Maybe I can mount it coming out of the side of the fuselage.
what a cool bird!
is it 5.8Ghz Tx?
The best movies for FPV ..... "Echelon" making fpv so awesome !
Awesome
How fast does it travel?
I am asking because I want to use a glider for FPV and I think I glider which is not just a floater and can fly distances with a bit of speed is a good idea :)
I see the OSD-Screen but no idea where the speed is :D
I have had it up to 70 mph (112 kph) but my flight controls are loose and half the left elevon came off and both aileron servos disconnected. Got it back safely though. If they were tighter (not loose) I'm sure it could do 100 mph +.
It's 3.6 meters or about 12 feet.
How is the camera guy getting such perfect tracking of the glider? Is he using one of those things where the camera is directed by an accelerometer in the goggles?
Yes he is and it's called "head tracking".
So far I have no complaints. I use a home made dipole for my long range flights, but I have taken the "V" to over 5 miles with perfect video. I have not run out of range with one yet.
We got a couple great new shots of it this weekend. Those will appear in our next Teach Echelon video. See the description for out web site.
One of those "make ya drool" videos.. nice
I have a problem and that is finding one to fly with :) and finding a place where I can fly from :) But then again I live in Europe...:) Thank's for sharing
Indeed, thanks a LOT for not adding sound!
Simply beautiful and greetings from San Francisco bay area,
Sweet glider, Thumbs up
How do you like the 1.3GHz Vee antenna?
Holy Crap!! That was so freakin awesome! I am just learning to fly fpv and you just gave me a whole new perspective! GREAT VID !!!
Very Nice! Facination is fascinating!
Thank you. I use to fly full scale gliders, so I wanted a similar experience. That's why I got the sailplane. I have a Quad copter aslo, but I kind of find them boring myself ;)
Nice glider. Those cumulous clouds looked nice. Bet you can get some strong thermals there!
Hi guys
Im searching for a rc glider that can stay in air at least one hour with fpv and long-range system. Can you help me finding the right plane ?
You're looking at it. I have had it up for 2.5 hours and had to land as I was going to be late for an appointment :)
Where can i get that exact camera? Can anyone send me a link with iformation about FPV?
The flight camera is an SN555 and the HD is a Mobius. I think the RMRC700Pro is better and I'm going to change to that one. You can find both cameras at RMRC: www.readymaderc.com/store/
Wow... what a smooth flight and awesome secondary video.
Hi,
at 1:49 the is on the rigth side of the OSD "59" is this the height? In metres or feet?
Looks very low in this video.
59 is the speed in miles per hour.
that shits basically a uav.
Good grief, what a beautiful video! Well done! Thanks for uploading :-)
Wow!! Fantastic!!
Thank you for getting back to me.I have to try the one I have out. RV is where I picked them up. Have a great day.Nice flying.
Cool i am the 300'th subscriber :-)
Location? Some fantastic coastal landscapes.
+Chuck Wyatt The location is on the edge of the San Francisco bay.
just use a laptop and buy a ezcap!
Hey what did you use for the HUD i really want to know :D Btw the flight looks baddass
That was the Eagle Tree OSD Pro. I have since upgraded to the Eagle Tree Vector which has color graphics plus many other upgrades: www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11_21&products_id=2307
That's at a park in Menlo Park, CA. Just west of the new Facebook headquarters.
You'll love the cub. And yes, over an hour should be easy. With no lift I can get 45 minutes out of it :)
Very nice. Greetings from SoCal.
Excellent Video! - Greetings from Germany
Thank you!
I love it when the sailplane engages it's motor and the plane following just sees it float up into the air effortlessly. The normal plane has to go vertical to keep up! XD
Awesome video!
Awesome video!
Very cool! :)
Wow, I'm inspired, really fantastic!
great ! thanks,i been looking at there sweet models ! ill take another look at the Fascination
Really nice glider. The more I fly the more limited LOS becomes.
I agree. It's such a nice looking glider, but I never see it from the outside ;)
Wow... I didn't know people came in that size.... must be hard finding shoes that fit.
;-)
something that looks scary is the place to land without landing gear :P
well nevermind didn't look bad just the spot I was thinking he was gonna land was scary
Very nice - thx for sharing!
Excellent air2air!
Matthew
Thanks! And you can thank calidave88 for the great camera work from the chase plane.
Nice video. Added to my PL
GREAT FPV. Where is that?
very nice video !!!
Hi Rsowder, may I ask you where you have the CG? I have this great glider w/the ET OSD, but with the CG at 90cm the glider has a feedback more slower. Another question, do you use the stabilization? In my aircraft when the OSD try to stabilize (w/ only the ailerons), is manifested a yaw (rightly).
to you does it? How did you solve it?
Many thanks and have a good Xmas
I use the stock CG. I'm not sure what the number is, but it's in the manual. I use to use the ET OSD Pro, but I have since upgraded to the ET Vector. It does have some yaw issues as do most long winged gliders, but the vector also stabilizes the yaw axis.
rsowder
Many Tks for your answer.
So when you used the OSD Pro, does not you used the stabilization? For me, now, the only way to fly well is without the stabilization. And I don't think that the RTH can work well. For the RTH, how did you when you had the OSDPro? Many Tks again.
Have a nice flight ;)
John Smith Yes, I did use stabilization. And the RTH worked well. I can't remember if the OSD Pro can do it, but on the vector, I have the motor set for only climb, not cruise flight. So, if the glider is above the target altitude, the motor will not come on.
Ok, Thanks Randy ;)
Thanks, I love it too :) With just the plane, servo's, motor, ESC and props it come up too about $1,080 USD.
Very noble aircraft !
I have that equipment in this glider and the Vario works great. Go for it :-)