@@beginnereasy considering the multiple mentions of batteries in this video and that no one has yet actually invented such a machine as far as we're aware, it's entirely relevant.
What’s funny is that even if they made a perpetual motion machine, that isn’t enough. You need perpetual excess motion to extract usable energy from it. Just barely being able to reset itself means no energy left over to extract for usable ends. What a Sisyphean task. Lol
making a perpetual motion machine breaks one rule of thermodynamics, getting energy from it breaks 2. I really wonder if there is a "perpetual motion machine" that breaks all 3😂😂
@@spookyleo2589 the third law is about entropy and temperature. Essentially entropy approaches zero as temperature approaches absolute zero, if there's zero entropy there's zero motion and zero energy. I'm not sure how the hell you would get a perpetual motion device working at absolute zero...
As a matter of fact, Simon was wearing this exact same outfit in another video I saw on a different one of his channels', two days ago. lol He must film nearly a dozen or so of these at a time...
I have no idea why were so obsessed with the idea of a perpetual motion machine for energy when we have a massive fusion reactor that we're all literally floating around...
There is a pretty big cultural element to it. when you rubberneck the free energy communities, you find that they tend to be rather conspiratorial and anti semitic.. their world is dominated by the idea that the world is wrong and that a group of (unworthy) people are intentionally keeping the world they deserve away from them. Kinda like flat earthers or sovereign citizens.. and once they have that shared belief of fighting the great evil and persecution for being superior, they bond over it. Can't get that from something that works.
Well, the fusion reactor gets blocked for a good part of the 'day', plus clouds etc. Now if someone could invent a pocket sized device to use the output of the reactor, in a meaningful way. I mean NOT a 3 watt phone charger etc. Or run your house, but not cost $30K up front. 'Free' is always an attractive option. Unfortunately there is no 'free', anywhere.
@@joeshmoe7967 Those are all completely fair points. The sun does quite a lot more than just sunlight though. It powers our hydro power and wind power as well. My point is that I think we would be better served trying to utilize those resources better than trying to make a wheel spin forever without stopping. The most fundamental understanding of our universe is that you can't get more energy out of a system than you put in. The most ideal result in my mind of a perpetual motion machine is a way to perfectly store energy without loss. That is the best possible scenario and use of such a thing if it were possible that I can think of.
Because we want to create our own power that we can use and abuse without any restraint If you have your own perpetual motuon machine you can convert the motion into power and power can be used to create craft manufacture and manipulate People would sell energy for money while others would aim to create that which could not be made due to power time or labor "Money, power, respect Is the key to life"
As the universe is not subject to the laws of physics, time and space are basically magic, a perpetual motion machine is possible, until we figure out what makes it go, and then it is not.
I invented a perpetual motion machine, I did this by lighting a match, there is a wave of light that is perpetually moving through space forever in one direction
Holy shit that last one hit way too close to home. When I was 13 my dad quit his teaching job and cashed out his retirement because he thought that god had told him the designs for an AC solid state battery. He drove my family to bankruptcy trying to put together an incoherent non-sensical mess of a battery that never worked.
I'm a horologist and I'm familiar with one particular type of mystery clock. The clock in question has only one hand which can be spun feely, but it always comes to rest pointing to the correct time and left to itself, the hand rotates in 12 hours always indicating the correct time, with no obvious means of propulsion. I know how it works. When I saw Jones' 'perpetual motion' machine I postulated a connection, so I made my own version at the school where I worked. It ran for many years, intriguing and annoying staff and pupils alike. My youngest aged about three, dismissed it with the opinion the it 'had batteries in it.' He was correct.
The dollar store used to sell these tiny solar powered plastic trinkets that would “move back and forth”. Someone gave us a few and we put in the windowsill. Every morning when the sun came up, you could hear them clattering away until sunset. Now had they made the solar panel twice as large and put a rechargeable battery in the base, it’s possible those things would last all night as well. Of course this uses SOLAR POWER, so far from perpetual motion - but the concept to apply to a “perpetual motion” machine is clear: design a machine that uses Earth’s natural cycles to capture energy and convert to motion. The drinking bird is a close match to this - and if placed somewhere that either never ran out of water, or was placed somewhere the cooling effects could occur “naturally”, then it would appear as perpetual motion. All this is really doing though is the same as wind or solar “renewable” power: taking unused energy from around us, and capturing it for use.
Are you trying to say that if the system with the drinking bird was placed in a tightly closed (and preferably glass?) box in order to prevent loss of water, and there was a tube above the bird (plus maybe something else) that somehow forced the evaporated water to return to the cup, then the entire system could become perpetually in motion?
@@micahfoley9572 Just described the ideal environment for Masturbating. The joke is around the idea that if you need perpetual motion you can go an jurk off.
If my 42 yr old little brother is reading this; I hope this video finally convinces you that your magnet perpetual motion design WILL NOT WORK. I'm sorry, but it was a good try. 😊 Love ya brother! ❤
Actually your brother is correct that the only possible way to even conceive of or attempt to produce a machine of perpetual motion would be through magnetism. Electromagnetism is the strongest force in the universe. The only reason there is no way to make a perpetual motion machine, even with magnetism, is that all things eventually corrode and break down and so will a perpetual motion machine. Even if successfully harnessing the magnetism to gain perpetual motion. That truly is the only folly in your brothers thinking so I would give him a bit more credit than you are.
I came up with a similar concept when i was 14 or 15... needless to say i was disappointed to learn thermodynamics makes such a thing impossible shortly after 😂 Reality truly can be disappointing 😢
I have made a beta version of what I’m assuming is your brother’s idea of a spinning, magnetic electrical system and the second you add any resistance to it won’t work even using the most super super magnets
When you need multiple meters they work fine. They are as accurate as my $150 meter but they have no security circuit so the are easy to destroy. I use up to 5 sometimes so that I can have live readings from multiple points of my projects at the same time. It is cheaper than an oscilloscope yet still pretty accurate. Bad batteries will give you bad readings but the meters cost $7-$12 and as long as you use a good meter to calibrate initially you will be fine.
Thanks for this video! I keep telling my kids that perpetual motion is impossible and they repeatedly try and prove me wrong with UA-cam videos claiming to show devices that operate perpetually. Now I can bust the perpetual motion myth to them with this video.
The one powered by God was probably the closest to PM of all. Just replace God with The Sun, and you actually have something. Sure, "an unimaginably long time" is not the same as "perpetual", but it comes damn close.
All motion needs energy. Friction stops motion. In the end a person needs more energy to overcome friction, for perpetual motion perpetual energy is needed
I got an ad on UA-cam the other day trying to sell me perpetual motion plans. What a crock of garbage. It went on and on about how amazing it was and took them 5 whole minutes of constantly hyping this pile of garbage up to show a two second video of it “working”. What amounted to two stepper motors coupled together with a battery and a bunch of useless circuits.
There a much better version, where you buy a large set of plans for big bucks ...which turn out to be copied from several free-energy websites. It's perpetual motion: selling free stuff.
LMAO YT really needs to just abandon all ads and start over. Anything can get past the filters now. I'm surprised we don't have troll ads of just straight up hentai games. OH WAIT......
@@OttoByOgraffey Ditto to your comment. At least one is necessary while the other isn't. I won't give you any hints as to which is which. You can likely figure that out. I hope.
Fact. Magnets are SLIGHTLY more attractive than repulsive… An extremely accurate device built with modern materials and technology can theoretically work on earth as perpetual motion, not free energy. In space, most definitely
Theres a new saying that its not truly a perpetual motion video unless there is a comment about that old saying: The most difficult thing about building perpetual motion machines is figuring out where to hide the battery.
And the crazy part? BOTH ARE NECESSARY COMMENTS TO MAKE. Literally found another perpetual motor grifter on YT who's been commenting on science/chemistry related content, their channel is just a few videos of some blueprint shenanigans, and a link to their paypal. The scary part? There are more believers than educated people in the comments 🤦♀
Well the mechanism is sound though. Obviously not for perpetual motion since that doesn't exist. But in theory the horizontal gear turns the spiral gear, which oscillates the bar above it back and forth, which on a particular stroke pushes the vertical gears (which should be clock gears) that rotate the bottom horizontal gear, which turns the spiral gear, which oscillates the bar which turns the two vertical gears etc etc.
@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic none of the gears actually connect. It's a nonsense AI image. Look at the left most vertical gear. It doesn't have a top, past the horizontal bar, that also seems useless. The bottom horizontal gear is fixed to the base with the screws that can be seen, and it seems like all the vertical gears would be inside of it where they intersect. It looks neat, though. The center, what looks like a worm gear, isn't actually a gear at all. It's like four inverted bowls on the shaft. No power is being transferred there.
It's actually not even that hard. Grifters are really out there phishing for idiot whales lmao. I'm actually just here looking through the comments for this one particular YT channel that has creeped up recently stating "my perpetual motion machine is better, check out my design" and is literally some blueprint garbage presentations and a link to their paypal. The comments legit terrify me because there are more believers than educated people in them XD
0:27 the drinking bird 3:02 perpetual marble machine 5:20 magnetic fidget spinning motor 8:21 dreadco perpetual motion machine 11:57 perpetual energy from god
Already been done, in the 1970s. The "Minto Wheel," was four or six giant dipping-birds on the same axel, made with huge propane tanks, dipping into solar-heated warm water.
@@someguy15721I mean, yeah, you *can* do that. Or you can use that space to build a 50kw solar array that has no moving parts, produces hundreds of times more energy, and doesn't involve flammable gasses under pressure.
@@someguy15721 I think they did. Gearbox to step it up. Wally Minto. But the efficiency is terrible. Instead use a giant solar mirror focused on a boiler, like they do today in Nevada etc.
The problem with "perpetual motion" is that pedants don't allow for machines to wear and that people try to do it by making energy appear out of no-where. Here's the correct approach: 1) Heat pumps can collect energy at the cold sink and concentrate that energy at the hot sink and they can collect and concentrate more energy than it requires to run the pump. This means that, with the correct application of energy and mechanics, entropy can be temporarily and locally reversed. 2) Thermal Kinetic energy is not special, if it is possible to sort more thermal kinetic energy than you expend sorting the energy, then you absolutely can sort other types of energy in excess off the energy spent to sort that energy. 3) If this is done with charge, then creating a self sustaining loop becomes simple 4) it can be done with charge 5) influence machines which opperate by pure cpacitance and electric force can sort charge analogous to how a heat pump sorts thermal kinetic energy
As a kid I thought about making a motor that ran off of opposing magnets. But I never thought for one second I was making a perpetual motion machine. I was thinking of a motor that used magnets as an energy storage and expected the magnets to get weaker and run out of magnetic field or "power". My idea was to use them in portable tape recorders to drive the tape path and use auxiliary battery power just to power the amplifier since the electric motors used the majority of the battery power. A mechanical feedback hooked up to a mechanical brake was used for speed regulation or to turn it off.
@@JackBWatkins No. Magnetic tape is stable in weak, non-oscillating magnetic fields. Erasure requires a high intensity, oscillating magnetic fields which decreases in intensity.
On magnets erasing tape, I was a college radio DJ. We had a magnetic tape eraser. It's basically a big, square, electromagnet with a hole to pass the cassette or other magnetic media through. This thing was big and heavy and plugged into a wall outlet. The power of magnets to erase magnetic tape is kind of exaggerated in most people's minds. It takes a pretty serious magnet to do it effectively.
@@JackBWatkins If you put them too close to the tape, yes. But remember the electric motor also has magnets. Some sort of shielding would have been necessary. It's all moot because the magnet motor would have never worked anyway.
@@therealjammit Well I was just trying to be funny, but instead all of you gave me some great information. Best part was nobody was mean and everyone stayed positive. Best UA-cam thread ever.
I contend that the only perpetual motion would be perfectly stable orbit, provided it could be isolated from the influence of the rest of the universe. But even then, it's not taking advantage of any entropy-defying miracle, it's just coasting on curved space
From someone who loves shows like Penn and Teller Fool Us, the best illusions are the ones that are extremely simple but made to look extremely complex. I am certain I could replicate the Dreadco machine believably. I am not certain it would use the same mechanism, but I'm relatively certain you couldn't tell it apart from the original.
The funny thing about perpetual motion scams is that some of them really look like could almost work. That's particularly true with the magnetic ones. If magnetic force fields could be made to act like water flowing, then they could work. We can literally feel a magnet pushing a magnet. It feels like that would be used as an energy source even though it can't. It's so counter intuitive.
In the case of the dipping bird, the water level decreasing is not an argument against perpetual motion. The power that drives this motion is the transfer of heat from the surroundings to evaporate the water on the beak. Therefore it is not a free energy system.
@@mitchsmith7472No it isn't. Expansion may be accelerating but that doesn't mean 'speed' is increasing.That would make a nonsense of the arrow of time, atrophy.
You want perpetual motion? You've GOT it. The earth's spin and orbit are perpetual, for all intents and purposes. When I was a kid, me and my classmates were taken to a science center- it was so long ano I don't remember what it was, but I THINK it was the Smithsonian Institute. There was a huge pendulum (maybe 2 stories high) with a very heavy metal ball at the bottom, and this thing slowly swung back and forth and will never stop as long as Earth keeps spinning, because, due to it's length, everytime it swings one way and then back, the whole thing has also been moved in a huge circle by maybe 1 degree or so due to Earth's spin and that energy propels its next swing- so it will never stop until Earth stops spinning.
when I was young, my parents took me to science museums. several of them had demonstration rigs that had various human powered generators connected to light bulbs. the harder the generator was cranked, the more light bulbs could be lighted up. but the commonality of all of them was how much effort it took to increase the power output. I think many "free energy by boostrapping" believers have never seen such a device.
The Exploratorium in SF once had a longwire antenna, a couple hundred feet long, which would flash a single LED, blinking once every several minutes. (And so, all the "ambient RF" crackpots never actually tried to harvest atmospheric energy. It's there, and its real, and maybe it was powerful enough that it could keep a single Crookes Radiometer spinning, even when it was dark outside.)
@@YourFriendlyOfficeAssistant after I made this comment, I looked it up and somebody won an award for a paper with this idea, but I don’t believe that it’s been tested and I vaguely do understand what you are saying, but I’m not the first to think of it apparently
I still say there's got to be a market for a "nearly" perpetual motion machine that generates unlimited power as long as you pay some kid minimum wage to give it a push whenever it slows down.
Well yeah, if you spin a bicycle wheel in the vacuum of space far away from Earth it will spin there for a very long time. But guess what?! Even that will stop eventually from the gravitational pull of the Sun and other planets.... eventually.
Man, if we could only get a magnet-destroying motor to work. That's the kind where it keeps spinning for an hour, but the magnets get weaker and weaker. It would be the start of a million-dollar toy industry. (And, note that if we use ceramic magnets as the "fuel," we can easily re-charged them again, by holding them against a neo rare-earth magnet.)
When I found out about perpetual motion machines as a kid, I couldn’t help but think up a few concepts myself. I even got chatting with my science teacher at school who also theorised a perpetual machine himself when he was younger. His concept wasn’t really perpetual motion, more perpetual energy conversion. It consisted of a bank of lightbulbs contained in a box made from basically solar panels that would convert the light and heat energy from the bulbs into electricity that would then be fed back to the bulbs to, in theory, keep them indefinitely lit. The problem being that every component would have to be 100% efficient in its task, which no modern electrical equipment is capable of. My own concept was a self-propelling A/C unit. The idea was a Stirling engine linked mechanically to two fan rotors geared in a way that one rotor would spin faster than the other. The Stirling engine would be started with a heat source first to spin up the fans. The fan geared to spin faster would force air over the slower fan which itself was geared to the crank of the Stirling engine, sending the power back to the faster fan until an equilibrium was reached. The heat source could then be removed and the Stirling engine could be allowed to operate as a motor to create cold air. My guess for how this wouldn’t work is the supposed “equilibrium” of the two fans creating a sort of feedback loop would be impossible without needing to artificially energise the airflow.
A good point that was not mentioned on the magnet wheels: The reason people even consider that it could ever be possible is because most people have an extremely rudimentary intuition for how magnets work They make continuous force fields They don't just make in front of the magnets where N pushes N They also do it to the sides Sliding two N facing magnets against one another takes exactly as much energy than they produce when they push each other apart You are better to think of magnets as "springy gears" than "pushing force fields"
If perpetual motion is a thing, it's probably some kind of crazy quantum phenomena. I believe maybe it could be possible, but definitely not with conventional means. I suppose in a way, the electron's orbit around an atom IS perpetual motion. At atom with an amount of energy above absolute 0 will keep motion going for a VERY long time (the heat death of the universe probably). So by all practical means, it is perpetual motion.
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Literally killing their own product lmao. Ad blockers are a necessity for safe browsing now, regardless of if we click ads or not. Sometimes they just pump things through our system just from being on the screen. GG Google, I'm already not using chrome anymore, or the search engine (there's less biased, corpo trashy ones out there) but now I can recommend that my friends ditch theirs for an actual laptop. Because it's only downhill from here.
It's said that the hardest part about building a perpetual motion machine is finding a place to hide the battery. Could be why those 2 were disappointed in the truth of how the Dreadco machine works.
I've had a Dreadco machine apart (when it was at MOS in Boston, a slightly different one with big black horse-shoe magnets.) It won't run for an entire year. For the secret, think Dilbert's pointy-haired boss engineering (or perhaps Wally.) While it was there, a little kid guessed the secret, won the $1K prize.
Indeed. The oscillating hypothesis basically died in 1992 with the results of the COBE mission data. WMAP and Planck have since only continued to stomp up and down on its corpse. It is odd though the sheer number of people who persist in believing the Big Crunch could be a thing.
Successful PM machines are never announced, because they always create a huge smoking crater when first turned on, which is wrongly attributed to a gas explosion. (It was actually a perpetual-acceleration machine. If you're genuinely violating the laws of physics, why would you expect it to only put out milliwatts?)
@@paradiselost9946 Several years ago, a weird coils-device with big vacuum tubes apparently attracted flying saucers. Twice! (I told the people they should sell it to that Skinwalker Ranch crew for millions of dollars!) So, perhaps your basic common rotating b-fields Philadelphia Experiment device will bring the MIBs to your house? In that case, break into the garage of your enemy, and hide it in the corner, under a cardboard box (unobtrusively plugged in, of course.) Wait for "The Govmint" to come and haul them away in the night! PS Around 1988 I saw the David Jones PM wheel disassembled. A year later someone in the contest guessed it, and won our $1000 prize. Hint: don't over-think it, since the secret isn't nearly as complicated as everyone imagines.
If the Wright Brothers' plane was actually real, it wouldn't need to be launched using a falling-weight catapult. And industrial AC synchronous motors are an obvious hoax, since they won't start without an initial push.
A self trained Mechanical Engineer and home inventor, a friend of mine used the magnetic wheel gadget. However his wheel also had water pouring on it, like the old water wheels. He was proud of his magnets accelerating the wheel to incredible speeds. When last seen he was tweaking the magnet switching mechanics. I never had the heart to point out the many flaws. Water wheels have great power and easily charged the low voltage DC batteries and for the solenoids. I never had the heart to say it was not perpetual motion which he claimed.
That’s like saying unicorns aren’t impossible, we just haven’t breed the right animals yet. It’s impossible because energy cannot be “created”(as in a system cannot create anymore energy than is already available within it). We can make things that are extremely efficient and utilize as much of the available energy within a system, but it will never create or utilize more energy than is available like what would be required for a perpetual motion machine.
I would say from a human standpoint there is enough energy in the universe to use for whatever purpose to last forever until everybody dead. Just find a way to capture this energy and there you go. Perpetual.
my personal conclusion for one of the daedalus machines is compressed air at low pressure being blown onto the sides of the bicycle wheel. its dead simple, low maintenance and extremely reliable, and all parts needed are clearly there.
That's not it. When his machine was exhibited at Boston's Museum of Science, we had it apart every nine months, for "servicing." It would only run for about that long.
But you skipped the most important thing with the drinking bird! “Where does it get its energy when it’s running?” From the heat in the air! Specifically, the heat difference between the air and water. Water is ever so slightly cooler than air. Sure, it’s very inefficient, but wonderfully close to “perpetual motion” as the energy is always available!
"Anything is possible," is something people tell children to get them excited about the universe. It's not actually true. Perpetual motion is only possible if you completely change foundational physics. At that point you're talking about an entirely different universe, or as many call it, "fiction."
@@TP-om8of you can go to the sources for that Wikipedia article if you want something more reliable. But perpetual motion is still impossible according to the law of thermodynamics.
@@TP-om8ofIf you don't trust Wikipedia itself (although I'm not sure there's much to be gained over deliberately misleading people over the laws of thermodynamics) there's the references used to write the page, such as one written by someone at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Anyway, perpetual motion is impossible.
Never give up. We don't know everything & therefore can't dispel tech we haven't discovered yet. I believe a lot of what we know was discovered years ago but we lost the technology . Never stop thinking about the possibilities.
I believe the only possible perpetual machine would be a robot with an AI brain. The AI part would be given the knowledge of how to repair itself and get energy. The robot part would be able to do the physical labor necessary to sustain itself. Making it possible to send it to anywhere. With its knowledge, it would be able to manufacture or create what is necessary to keep it going indefinitely. The robot part could be made to run on any type of energy. The AI part would give it knowledge on how to take raw materials for its own repair and to create power sources. We have AI's today that can learn. A good example of this is AlphaZero. Given just the rules of chess was able to teach itself to be any Grandmaster within hours. Giving it all of the knowledge necessary to keep itself running would allow it to be autonomous. We are not at that level yet to create such a machine but technically it would fulfill the definition of a perpetual motion machine.
I remember seeing a special on the discovery channel about perpetual motion machines. One guy had a crazy looking Ferris wheel type thing with water bottles hooked up to it, and it was ridiculous looking. One guy had a track that a metal ball rolled around on, and it had a ramp on one end. It was mounted to a huge concrete block so vibrations etc wouldn’t knock it out of phase.
A common oversight when considering the possibility of a perpetual motion machine is the need for it to operate in conditions that are virtually impossible to achieve. For such a device to work, it would require a "perfect" vacuum-completely devoid of any matter or particles. Additionally, it would need to exist at absolute zero, the theoretical temperature where all molecular motion ceases. Moreover, it couldn't be influenced by any external forces, such as gravity, sunlight, radio waves, or any form of external energy or interference. Beyond that, the machine couldn't rely on anything that deteriorates over time, such as batteries, chemical reactions, or nuclear decay. These materials all break down and lose efficiency, leading to inevitable energy loss. This is why perpetual motion machines are fundamentally impossible-they violate the laws of thermodynamics, especially the conservation of energy, which dictates that energy cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system. Even the testing facility for a perpetual motion machine would be nearly impossible to engineer. Creating a perfectly isolated environment, completely free from external influences, and maintaining it at absolute zero is beyond our current technological capabilities. These extreme conditions underscore why the concept of perpetual motion, while intriguing, is simply unattainable in practice.
In reality, what most people actually do is trying to create the most efficient way possible they think they can to conserve energy as much as possible. That's what it boils down to because what they think they can do, is virtually impossible otherwise.
Cambridge scientist and mathematician Professor Sir Arthur Eddington once defined an "intellectual" as "Someone who understands the principles and implications of the Second Law of Thermodynamics."
Oh, there is such a thing as perpetual motion. Here's how. Put a priest on a treadmill with a little boy in front, just out of arms reach. Hey presto, there you have it, perpetual motion.
Perpetual motion might not be possible with our current understanding of how to bend and break the laws of physics, but I do think it is very much so possible to create something that is close enough that you could make something that would run for a VERY long time.
Sure. A flywheel, in a vacuum, supported on magnetic bearings. Give it a good push and I'm sure it would spin for quite a while. So what? You can never EXTRACT more usable energy from it than you initially put in with your push.
I'm a complete sceptic of perpetual motion, but I am fascinated by the approaches. It started when I was a kid and hooked 6 dynamos up to a single motor and was perplexed when they would produce enough energy to power the motor.
Amazing video yet again! I've been wondering, do you speak like this in your normal life as well? I'm just curious, I dig it a lot when people are well-spoken.
The drinking bird will work if you place it next to something that radiates a small amount of heat without any water. My mom was sick of dad's toy and stuck it "out of the way " , in doing so she ended up placing the lower bulb near the cooling fan of the cable box and now it works all the time without needing a top up of water
Even though a perpetual motion machine is impossible, if one did exist, wouldn't it have to give off literally zero sound, as the sound would come from friction and that friction would wear down the parts of the machine over time to the point where eventually it'd stop working? And what about heat? Wouldn't the heat be a release of energy that would add up over time?
I thought that too and even in space with no sound it would need a way to get the energy to earth which would be energy taken away from the actual machine
Perpetual motion is impossible on earth. It's just a matter of how long the motion will occur. Plus, it is totally useless unless it can do some work. Which it can't.
Still a battery that only needs replacing every 100 years is not only an amazing achievement in itself (and could revolutionise the world) but it could sort of be looked at as an "almost" perpetual motion device in the way that it would likely last past most peoples lifetime so we would never know it stopped....
The saddest thing about all of this (except for the beauty of the pursuit of pure science) is that for a perpetual motion machine to have any groundbreaking human relevance it will have to deliver MORE power than is put into it, not just sit there at a point of energy equilibrium. So not only do you have to counteract friction etc (which also means that you will ultimately have to pay money to replace worn out parts), you have to create something out of more than its parts. The closest thing I can think of in terms of perpetual motion are the stars and planets, doing their orbital/gravitational dance. Even then we know that won't last forever. Still, the drive to create the nearest possible thing to a perpetual motion machine is FUN!
Technically gravity never stops "pulling" the objects, but eventually they'll hit the object, which obviously ceases movement. If you could somehow prevent collision, it would pull straight to the center before stopping. So it never really runs out of "energy" but that energy can only move things to 1 spot.
none of us have been around long enough to verify that aspect... as one astrophycisist states... "a lot of this work is like watching a blade of grass and predicting the winner of the kentucky derby..." come on, pluto hasnt even performed a full orbit since being discovered...
If a perpetual motion machine is created, then you wouldn't be able to hear it since that would be a loss of energy, you wouldn't be able to see it since the photons could slow it down/speed it up (loss or gain of energy), you wouldn't be able to smell it since any air it touches would slow it down, you wouldn't be able to taste it since your tongue could slow it down/speed it up (loss or gain of energy), you can't feel it for the same reason as the tongue. TLDL: If a perpetual motion machine is created you wouldn't be able to sense it in any way
There was a guy who had a machine that turned a large fan blade rather slowly with just a very tiny current from a 9 volt battery. The battery energized a gerbil wheel with a high voltage from a multiplier circuit and shocked their little feet into running really fast.
"Lisa! In this house we OBEY the laws of thermodynamics"
And you don’t want to have to pay the fine that comes with breaking the third law!
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
"Physics - it's not just a fancy idea, it's the law." ;)
enforced by the second law
this perpetual motion device just keeps going faster and faster!
There's that old saying: the hardest part of inventing a perpetual motion machine is to figure out where to hide the batteries
It's irrelevant
@@beginnereasy considering the multiple mentions of batteries in this video and that no one has yet actually invented such a machine as far as we're aware, it's entirely relevant.
That's the first time I've ever heard it so it's not old.
The duality of the irrelevant makes it relevant
@@beginnereasysays the man with a real irrelevant statement.
What’s funny is that even if they made a perpetual motion machine, that isn’t enough. You need perpetual excess motion to extract usable energy from it. Just barely being able to reset itself means no energy left over to extract for usable ends. What a Sisyphean task. Lol
one must imagine thermodynamics happy...
making a perpetual motion machine breaks one rule of thermodynamics, getting energy from it breaks 2. I really wonder if there is a "perpetual motion machine" that breaks all 3😂😂
@@spookyleo2589 the third law is about entropy and temperature. Essentially entropy approaches zero as temperature approaches absolute zero, if there's zero entropy there's zero motion and zero energy. I'm not sure how the hell you would get a perpetual motion device working at absolute zero...
Perpetual motion exists. It's Simon moving from channel to channel and subject to subject. Good God Simon. Don't just do something. Sit there.
As a matter of fact, Simon was wearing this exact same outfit in another video I saw on a different one of his channels', two days ago. lol He must film nearly a dozen or so of these at a time...
Solid comment.
Batteries not included.
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@@williestyle35 he is known for being parsimonious with his clothing budget.
There already is a perpetual motion machine. It's generally referred to as a 'two year old'.
sadly those 2 year old only keeps in motion when under surveillance .
Actually they do require external power, if you remove their food,... you will go to jail
@@iamdigory they generate more energy than they use. They can charge 3 hours of energy with 20 minutes of napping.
after cost of fuel and maintenance your losing energy... like a lot...
The children yearn for the mines
0:30 - Chapter 1 - The drinking bird
3:05 - Chapter 2 - Perpetual marble machine
5:25 - Chapter 3 - Magnetic fidget spinner motor
8:25 - Chapter 4 - Dreadco perpetual motion machine
12:00 - Chapter 5 - Perpetual energy from god
You forgot to discuss Besslers Wheel. Unless I missed it
Up next, 50 channels you didn't know Simon narrates.
...part 1, beginning of a LONG series 😁...
Fascinating eggskull however
Although their production may suggest to some that the Infographics team is a perpetual motion machine, you have to keep feeding them.
Haha. So true
Thats more a mega project
I have no idea why were so obsessed with the idea of a perpetual motion machine for energy when we have a massive fusion reactor that we're all literally floating around...
Chill out musk...
There is a pretty big cultural element to it. when you rubberneck the free energy communities, you find that they tend to be rather conspiratorial and anti semitic.. their world is dominated by the idea that the world is wrong and that a group of (unworthy) people are intentionally keeping the world they deserve away from them. Kinda like flat earthers or sovereign citizens.. and once they have that shared belief of fighting the great evil and persecution for being superior, they bond over it.
Can't get that from something that works.
Well, the fusion reactor gets blocked for a good part of the 'day', plus clouds etc. Now if someone could invent a pocket sized device to use the output of the reactor, in a meaningful way. I mean NOT a 3 watt phone charger etc. Or run your house, but not cost $30K up front. 'Free' is always an attractive option. Unfortunately there is no 'free', anywhere.
@@joeshmoe7967 Those are all completely fair points. The sun does quite a lot more than just sunlight though. It powers our hydro power and wind power as well. My point is that I think we would be better served trying to utilize those resources better than trying to make a wheel spin forever without stopping. The most fundamental understanding of our universe is that you can't get more energy out of a system than you put in. The most ideal result in my mind of a perpetual motion machine is a way to perfectly store energy without loss. That is the best possible scenario and use of such a thing if it were possible that I can think of.
Because we want to create our own power that we can use and abuse without any restraint
If you have your own perpetual motuon machine you can convert the motion into power and power can be used to create craft manufacture and manipulate
People would sell energy for money while others would aim to create that which could not be made due to power time or labor
"Money, power, respect
Is the key to life"
As the universe is not subject to the laws of physics, time and space are basically magic, a perpetual motion machine is possible, until we figure out what makes it go, and then it is not.
humans like to act like they know everything until a new discovery happens.
I invented a perpetual motion machine, I did this by lighting a match, there is a wave of light that is perpetually moving through space forever in one direction
I don’t know much about photons but in a vacuum this could very well be the case
Holy shit that last one hit way too close to home. When I was 13 my dad quit his teaching job and cashed out his retirement because he thought that god had told him the designs for an AC solid state battery. He drove my family to bankruptcy trying to put together an incoherent non-sensical mess of a battery that never worked.
You hate to hear it, man. That sucks.
if god is powering the perpetual motion machine then it is not perpetual motion because it is powerd by an out side force
He was too far ahead of his time, as solid state batteries now are being researched.
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Sorry to hear that. I'm no psychiatrist but that sounds like some undiagnosed mental health issues.
"So, dad, how does perpetual motion work?"
"That's the neat thing, it doesn't"
I'm a horologist and I'm familiar with one particular type of mystery clock. The clock in question has only one hand which can be spun feely, but it always comes to rest pointing to the correct time and left to itself, the hand rotates in 12 hours always indicating the correct time, with no obvious means of propulsion. I know how it works.
When I saw Jones' 'perpetual motion' machine I postulated a connection, so I made my own version at the school where I worked. It ran for many years, intriguing and annoying staff and pupils alike.
My youngest aged about three, dismissed it with the opinion the it 'had batteries in it.' He was correct.
And here I was thinking "so… you had a pendulum?"
Every machine can be a perpetual motion machine if you apply enough external energy to it
That is why I always advocates to siphon Earth rotational momentum for power generator.
if we just shove infinite energy into it, we should get infinite -x out!
I don't need perpetual motion; I just need something that will last 100 years, and then turn the crank again.
nuclear decay heat reactor.
The dollar store used to sell these tiny solar powered plastic trinkets that would “move back and forth”. Someone gave us a few and we put in the windowsill. Every morning when the sun came up, you could hear them clattering away until sunset.
Now had they made the solar panel twice as large and put a rechargeable battery in the base, it’s possible those things would last all night as well.
Of course this uses SOLAR POWER, so far from perpetual motion - but the concept to apply to a “perpetual motion” machine is clear: design a machine that uses Earth’s natural cycles to capture energy and convert to motion. The drinking bird is a close match to this - and if placed somewhere that either never ran out of water, or was placed somewhere the cooling effects could occur “naturally”, then it would appear as perpetual motion.
All this is really doing though is the same as wind or solar “renewable” power: taking unused energy from around us, and capturing it for use.
Are you trying to say that if the system with the drinking bird was placed in a tightly closed (and preferably glass?) box in order to prevent loss of water, and there was a tube above the bird (plus maybe something else) that somehow forced the evaporated water to return to the cup, then the entire system could become perpetually in motion?
I discovered perpetual motion when I was a teenager. All you need is a bottle of hand lotion, an empty house, and unfettered access to the internet.
Micah Foley rubs it out to dudes 😂
@@maritimeus sorry, i don't think i get the joke, could you explain it to me?
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@@micahfoley9572Refractory period: I'm about to end this kid's whole kinetic energy reserve
@@micahfoley9572 Just described the ideal environment for Masturbating. The joke is around the idea that if you need perpetual motion you can go an jurk off.
If my 42 yr old little brother is reading this; I hope this video finally convinces you that your magnet perpetual motion design WILL NOT WORK. I'm sorry, but it was a good try. 😊 Love ya brother! ❤
Actually your brother is correct that the only possible way to even conceive of or attempt to produce a machine of perpetual motion would be through magnetism. Electromagnetism is the strongest force in the universe. The only reason there is no way to make a perpetual motion machine, even with magnetism, is that all things eventually corrode and break down and so will a perpetual motion machine. Even if successfully harnessing the magnetism to gain perpetual motion. That truly is the only folly in your brothers thinking so I would give him a bit more credit than you are.
I came up with a similar concept when i was 14 or 15... needless to say i was disappointed to learn thermodynamics makes such a thing impossible shortly after 😂
Reality truly can be disappointing 😢
You might want to encourage your little brother.
After all, every atom in the universe, as far as anyone can tell, is a perpetual motion machine.
I have made a beta version of what I’m assuming is your brother’s idea of a spinning, magnetic electrical system and the second you add any resistance to it won’t work even using the most super super magnets
Is name isn't Issac is it?
0:21 Harbor Freight free multimeter shows tools of a true scientist.
Sad that they don't do, free tape measures anymore,
@@lelokong6898 the tape measure is a decent free tool but the multimeter is a serious hazard with the completely unsuitable fuses inside.
When you need multiple meters they work fine. They are as accurate as my $150 meter but they have no security circuit so the are easy to destroy. I use up to 5 sometimes so that I can have live readings from multiple points of my projects at the same time. It is cheaper than an oscilloscope yet still pretty accurate. Bad batteries will give you bad readings but the meters cost $7-$12 and as long as you use a good meter to calibrate initially you will be fine.
Free with purchase tyvm
@@drkastenbrotand that's a hazard how?
I once tried to invent a perpetual motion machine. Piece of junk, I threw it away. Stupid thing kept going faster and faster !
"faster and faster".... until it flew apart. See that's not really perpetual motion either. 😂
Thanks for this video! I keep telling my kids that perpetual motion is impossible and they repeatedly try and prove me wrong with UA-cam videos claiming to show devices that operate perpetually. Now I can bust the perpetual motion myth to them with this video.
First, have them try the 'buttered toast tied to the back of a cat' trick..😂
The one powered by God was probably the closest to PM of all. Just replace God with The Sun, and you actually have something. Sure, "an unimaginably long time" is not the same as "perpetual", but it comes damn close.
If perpetual were simply to mean "my entire lifetime" then it's absolutely perpetual ENOUGH lol.
An 'almost perpetual' motion machine is just a very efficient machine.
All motion needs energy. Friction stops motion. In the end a person needs more energy to overcome friction, for perpetual motion perpetual energy is needed
I dont want to be rude, but everything you wrote is wrong.
The hardest part of having a cool machine is telling people to shut up because they don’t know what perpetual motion machines even are.
2:32 Thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhe speed…
Thhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhis design
Would love to see your take on attempts to create boyancy based machines. Like chains with floats connected that are only in water on one side.
The entire universe is the closest thing to a perpetual motion machine and it's not even perpetual, it just has a lot of energy.
It might be perpetual.
People trying to one up physics is hilarious to me.
My kids have come close to inventing perpetually motion I turn the lights off and they leave them on. It never stops
Same with the toilet seat.....
Even the sun is not perpetual. But perhaps perpetual is the wrong objective.
2:55 That's my piccy from my Flickr page! Wooooo! Internet famous. Thanks Simon!
yeah he obvs doesnt care by looks of it...kudos though🫡
I got an ad on UA-cam the other day trying to sell me perpetual motion plans. What a crock of garbage. It went on and on about how amazing it was and took them 5 whole minutes of constantly hyping this pile of garbage up to show a two second video of it “working”. What amounted to two stepper motors coupled together with a battery and a bunch of useless circuits.
There a much better version, where you buy a large set of plans for big bucks ...which turn out to be copied from several free-energy websites. It's perpetual motion: selling free stuff.
Yeah the battery would be the dead giveaway
LMAO YT really needs to just abandon all ads and start over. Anything can get past the filters now. I'm surprised we don't have troll ads of just straight up hentai games. OH WAIT......
The biggest challenge in making a perpetual motion machine is hiding the energy source.
My favourite are those clocks that get powered by the heat difference in the day night cycle
Wow, this joke is even funnier the 100th time
So original
This joke is still necessary, because too many people believe in scam.
@@OttoByOgraffey Ditto to your comment. At least one is necessary while the other isn't. I won't give you any hints as to which is which. You can likely figure that out. I hope.
Fact. Magnets are SLIGHTLY more attractive than repulsive…
An extremely accurate device built with modern materials and technology can theoretically work on earth as perpetual motion, not free energy. In space, most definitely
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@12:40 I love how genuinely school-girl giddy Simon gets.🤗
The last inventor probably reinvented the arc of the covenant on a large scale but well never know. 😂
Theres a new saying that its not truly a perpetual motion video unless there is a comment about that old saying: The most difficult thing about building perpetual motion machines is figuring out where to hide the battery.
Lol yes
It's the "all mushrooms are edible once" of popular physics.
And the crazy part? BOTH ARE NECESSARY COMMENTS TO MAKE.
Literally found another perpetual motor grifter on YT who's been commenting on science/chemistry related content, their channel is just a few videos of some blueprint shenanigans, and a link to their paypal. The scary part? There are more believers than educated people in the comments 🤦♀
"its Perpetual Motion!"
"of you device?"
"no people will Perpetually though the use of motion replace the batteries with new working ones"
Gotta say that thumbnail looks like the most useless machine that the AI could come up with. None of the gears connect. It looks neat though.
@@AdamtheRed- a Rube Goldberg contraption for sure...
lol right? Definitely an AI generated image, those gears are completely pointless. Also the teeth near the screw look a bit wonky
Well the mechanism is sound though. Obviously not for perpetual motion since that doesn't exist. But in theory the horizontal gear turns the spiral gear, which oscillates the bar above it back and forth, which on a particular stroke pushes the vertical gears (which should be clock gears) that rotate the bottom horizontal gear, which turns the spiral gear, which oscillates the bar which turns the two vertical gears etc etc.
@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic none of the gears actually connect. It's a nonsense AI image. Look at the left most vertical gear. It doesn't have a top, past the horizontal bar, that also seems useless. The bottom horizontal gear is fixed to the base with the screws that can be seen, and it seems like all the vertical gears would be inside of it where they intersect. It looks neat, though. The center, what looks like a worm gear, isn't actually a gear at all. It's like four inverted bowls on the shaft. No power is being transferred there.
@@AdamtheRed- i mean yeah of course it's a garbage image, but you can understand the deeply buried gist.
Since prepetrual motion doesent exist, there is no ”closer” or ”farther” from it.
There's an old saying: the hardest part of inventing a perpetual motion machine is figuring out how to get money for it on crowd funding sites.
you mean "a new saying". crowd funding sites havent been around long enough . I know it's a joke, and a funny one
that's right, @@juliuspekar7620. you tell them! we are NOT OLD! 😭😭
It's actually not even that hard. Grifters are really out there phishing for idiot whales lmao. I'm actually just here looking through the comments for this one particular YT channel that has creeped up recently stating "my perpetual motion machine is better, check out my design" and is literally some blueprint garbage presentations and a link to their paypal. The comments legit terrify me because there are more believers than educated people in them XD
A stable electron field around a nucleus in empty space.
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0:27 the drinking bird
3:02 perpetual marble machine
5:20 magnetic fidget spinning motor
8:21 dreadco perpetual motion machine
11:57 perpetual energy from god
My ex-wife called me the perpetual drinking bird…
Still watching lol thank you
God bless
Perpetual motion exists, spinning objects in space
The drinking bird you might know from such films as “Alien” & “Darkman”
Darkman was the first thing I thought of. An underrated Liam Neeson and Sam Raimi classic!
@@Nick-v7b3l Totally agree
I had one of those birds as a kid
Darkman!! Thank you! That was driving me nuts trying to remember.
@@mattburley3189 🙂
Yeah, even a magical being doing it wouldn't be "perpetual motion" - that would be external input.
So enlarge the bird by a factor of 100 and place it next to a lake. Voila. My work here is done.
Not perpetual motion, but the energy input (ambient heat) is relatively free.
Already been done, in the 1970s. The "Minto Wheel," was four or six giant dipping-birds on the same axel, made with huge propane tanks, dipping into solar-heated warm water.
@@wbeaty So, what would have happened if someone hooked it up to a generator? so it could possibly produce energy?
@@someguy15721I mean, yeah, you *can* do that. Or you can use that space to build a 50kw solar array that has no moving parts, produces hundreds of times more energy, and doesn't involve flammable gasses under pressure.
@@someguy15721 I think they did. Gearbox to step it up. Wally Minto. But the efficiency is terrible. Instead use a giant solar mirror focused on a boiler, like they do today in Nevada etc.
The problem with "perpetual motion" is that pedants don't allow for machines to wear and that people try to do it by making energy appear out of no-where.
Here's the correct approach:
1) Heat pumps can collect energy at the cold sink and concentrate that energy at the hot sink and they can collect and concentrate more energy than it requires to run the pump. This means that, with the correct application of energy and mechanics, entropy can be temporarily and locally reversed.
2) Thermal Kinetic energy is not special, if it is possible to sort more thermal kinetic energy than you expend sorting the energy, then you absolutely can sort other types of energy in excess off the energy spent to sort that energy.
3) If this is done with charge, then creating a self sustaining loop becomes simple
4) it can be done with charge
5) influence machines which opperate by pure cpacitance and electric force can sort charge analogous to how a heat pump sorts thermal kinetic energy
As a kid I thought about making a motor that ran off of opposing magnets. But I never thought for one second I was making a perpetual motion machine. I was thinking of a motor that used magnets as an energy storage and expected the magnets to get weaker and run out of magnetic field or "power". My idea was to use them in portable tape recorders to drive the tape path and use auxiliary battery power just to power the amplifier since the electric motors used the majority of the battery power. A mechanical feedback hooked up to a mechanical brake was used for speed regulation or to turn it off.
So I assume the magnets wouldn’t erase the tape.
@@JackBWatkins
No. Magnetic tape is stable in weak, non-oscillating magnetic fields.
Erasure requires a high intensity, oscillating magnetic fields which decreases in intensity.
On magnets erasing tape, I was a college radio DJ. We had a magnetic tape eraser. It's basically a big, square, electromagnet with a hole to pass the cassette or other magnetic media through. This thing was big and heavy and plugged into a wall outlet. The power of magnets to erase magnetic tape is kind of exaggerated in most people's minds. It takes a pretty serious magnet to do it effectively.
@@JackBWatkins If you put them too close to the tape, yes. But remember the electric motor also has magnets. Some sort of shielding would have been necessary. It's all moot because the magnet motor would have never worked anyway.
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Well I was just trying to be funny, but instead all of you gave me some great information. Best part was nobody was mean and everyone stayed positive. Best UA-cam thread ever.
So Floyd just described a nuclear reactor with a pretty good half life to make power for a while, or at least that is what sounds like.
Eh... someone from the new Kingdom speaks. (Formerly a Queendom)... (God rest her soul, though).
I contend that the only perpetual motion would be perfectly stable orbit, provided it could be isolated from the influence of the rest of the universe. But even then, it's not taking advantage of any entropy-defying miracle, it's just coasting on curved space
From someone who loves shows like Penn and Teller Fool Us, the best illusions are the ones that are extremely simple but made to look extremely complex. I am certain I could replicate the Dreadco machine believably. I am not certain it would use the same mechanism, but I'm relatively certain you couldn't tell it apart from the original.
The funny thing about perpetual motion scams is that some of them really look like could almost work. That's particularly true with the magnetic ones. If magnetic force fields could be made to act like water flowing, then they could work. We can literally feel a magnet pushing a magnet. It feels like that would be used as an energy source even though it can't. It's so counter intuitive.
I have access to a system that will remain in motion until the heat death of the universe. I call it, "the universe"
Yes. Been looking for someone to state this.
I buy it for 10 dollars
Oh. Oh that's clever. 10/10 lol
In the case of the dipping bird, the water level decreasing is not an argument against perpetual motion. The power that drives this motion is the transfer of heat from the surroundings to evaporate the water on the beak. Therefore it is not a free energy system.
As the Universe expands it is winding down. Nothing physical is perpetual.
...and human stupidity isn't physical, so...
The universe is speeding up
@mitchsmith7472 yes. To our extremely limited understanding. And going to end one day
@@mitchsmith7472No it isn't. Expansion may be accelerating but that doesn't mean 'speed' is increasing.That would make a nonsense of the arrow of time, atrophy.
@@samuelgarrod8327 yes it is. Anyway
Build massive versions of that bird and dip the beaks in the sea, free energy for life 😂
Bots everywhere within the first minute of uploading 😂
You want perpetual motion? You've GOT it. The earth's spin and orbit are perpetual, for all intents and purposes. When I was a kid, me and my classmates were taken to a science center- it was so long ano I don't remember what it was, but I THINK it was the Smithsonian Institute. There was a huge pendulum (maybe 2 stories high) with a very heavy metal ball at the bottom, and this thing slowly swung back and forth and will never stop as long as Earth keeps spinning, because, due to it's length, everytime it swings one way and then back, the whole thing has also been moved in a huge circle by maybe 1 degree or so due to Earth's spin and that energy propels its next swing- so it will never stop until Earth stops spinning.
It's not
when I was young, my parents took me to science museums. several of them had demonstration rigs that had various human powered generators connected to light bulbs. the harder the generator was cranked, the more light bulbs could be lighted up. but the commonality of all of them was how much effort it took to increase the power output. I think many "free energy by boostrapping" believers have never seen such a device.
The Exploratorium in SF once had a longwire antenna, a couple hundred feet long, which would flash a single LED, blinking once every several minutes. (And so, all the "ambient RF" crackpots never actually tried to harvest atmospheric energy. It's there, and its real, and maybe it was powerful enough that it could keep a single Crookes Radiometer spinning, even when it was dark outside.)
@@wbeaty you know what makes really good collectors for "free to me" energy? commercially made solar systems.
The drinking bird is close enough to a perpetual motion machine for me. Pack it up boys they did it
The main problem with perpetual motion is that even IF it WAS possible, it would never generate enough torque to spin a turbine generator
I mean, even if you got just a single watt from a machine, all you need is 1 billion of them to make 1 billion watts...
@@Global-yt I wonder what the return on investment would be for something like that, probably a million years
@@InfinateIntensity I mean, there's a billion and a half iPhones in existence. It really isn't that hard.
Would a giant drinking bird next to a water source be a good source of power? It could be made to keep a wheel spinning.
Square-cubed law would make it a less efficient than a smaller one, it would stop working a lot faster.
@@YourFriendlyOfficeAssistant after I made this comment, I looked it up and somebody won an award for a paper with this idea, but I don’t believe that it’s been tested and I vaguely do understand what you are saying, but I’m not the first to think of it apparently
I still say there's got to be a market for a "nearly" perpetual motion machine that generates unlimited power as long as you pay some kid minimum wage to give it a push whenever it slows down.
I think most everything is "nearly" perpetual, as long as you keep adding fuel and replacing worn parts.
That would only ever output the amount of power the kid was able to produce. Whats the point then?
Well yeah, if you spin a bicycle wheel in the vacuum of space far away from Earth it will spin there for a very long time. But guess what?! Even that will stop eventually from the gravitational pull of the Sun and other planets.... eventually.
Man, if we could only get a magnet-destroying motor to work. That's the kind where it keeps spinning for an hour, but the magnets get weaker and weaker. It would be the start of a million-dollar toy industry. (And, note that if we use ceramic magnets as the "fuel," we can easily re-charged them again, by holding them against a neo rare-earth magnet.)
Sure like solar panels and wind turbines?
When I found out about perpetual motion machines as a kid, I couldn’t help but think up a few concepts myself. I even got chatting with my science teacher at school who also theorised a perpetual machine himself when he was younger. His concept wasn’t really perpetual motion, more perpetual energy conversion. It consisted of a bank of lightbulbs contained in a box made from basically solar panels that would convert the light and heat energy from the bulbs into electricity that would then be fed back to the bulbs to, in theory, keep them indefinitely lit. The problem being that every component would have to be 100% efficient in its task, which no modern electrical equipment is capable of. My own concept was a self-propelling A/C unit. The idea was a Stirling engine linked mechanically to two fan rotors geared in a way that one rotor would spin faster than the other. The Stirling engine would be started with a heat source first to spin up the fans. The fan geared to spin faster would force air over the slower fan which itself was geared to the crank of the Stirling engine, sending the power back to the faster fan until an equilibrium was reached. The heat source could then be removed and the Stirling engine could be allowed to operate as a motor to create cold air. My guess for how this wouldn’t work is the supposed “equilibrium” of the two fans creating a sort of feedback loop would be impossible without needing to artificially energise the airflow.
A good point that was not mentioned on the magnet wheels:
The reason people even consider that it could ever be possible is because most people have an extremely rudimentary intuition for how magnets work
They make continuous force fields
They don't just make in front of the magnets where N pushes N
They also do it to the sides
Sliding two N facing magnets against one another takes exactly as much energy than they produce when they push each other apart
You are better to think of magnets as "springy gears" than "pushing force fields"
If perpetual motion is a thing, it's probably some kind of crazy quantum phenomena. I believe maybe it could be possible, but definitely not with conventional means. I suppose in a way, the electron's orbit around an atom IS perpetual motion. At atom with an amount of energy above absolute 0 will keep motion going for a VERY long time (the heat death of the universe probably). So by all practical means, it is perpetual motion.
That's it! No more watching UA-cam videos on Google Chrome since they have disabled Adblock. Adverts at the start of the video I can put up with, adverts at the end of the video I can put up with. What I won't put up with is adverts in the middle of a sentence. "The metal balls barely have enough momentum to..... *_DARLIN' HOLD MY HAND, Jet2 Holidays_* ....make it up the ramp"
Wait, ad block has been completely banned from Chrome? Damn that's... dangerous.
Oh look. Another reason not to use chrome. Good to know! Thanks!!
@@xenomorphgourmet1005 a company what makes its money from advertisers blocks advertising blockers? I'm so confused, can someone explain this to me
Literally killing their own product lmao. Ad blockers are a necessity for safe browsing now, regardless of if we click ads or not. Sometimes they just pump things through our system just from being on the screen. GG Google, I'm already not using chrome anymore, or the search engine (there's less biased, corpo trashy ones out there) but now I can recommend that my friends ditch theirs for an actual laptop. Because it's only downhill from here.
It's said that the hardest part about building a perpetual motion machine is finding a place to hide the battery. Could be why those 2 were disappointed in the truth of how the Dreadco machine works.
I've had a Dreadco machine apart (when it was at MOS in Boston, a slightly different one with big black horse-shoe magnets.) It won't run for an entire year. For the secret, think Dilbert's pointy-haired boss engineering (or perhaps Wally.) While it was there, a little kid guessed the secret, won the $1K prize.
If you believe in the oscillating big bang, then you believe in perpetual motion. God.
Indeed. The oscillating hypothesis basically died in 1992 with the results of the COBE mission data. WMAP and Planck have since only continued to stomp up and down on its corpse. It is odd though the sheer number of people who persist in believing the Big Crunch could be a thing.
@@CountScarlioni I don't know, in my life butter has been good, then bad, half a dozen times. Things change. ;)
Successful PM machines are never announced, because they always create a huge smoking crater when first turned on, which is wrongly attributed to a gas explosion. (It was actually a perpetual-acceleration machine. If you're genuinely violating the laws of physics, why would you expect it to only put out milliwatts?)
that why i always place mine in discrete locations such as large office buildings or warehouses in the middle of populated cites before any tests.
@@paradiselost9946 Several years ago, a weird coils-device with big vacuum tubes apparently attracted flying saucers. Twice! (I told the people they should sell it to that Skinwalker Ranch crew for millions of dollars!) So, perhaps your basic common rotating b-fields Philadelphia Experiment device will bring the MIBs to your house? In that case, break into the garage of your enemy, and hide it in the corner, under a cardboard box (unobtrusively plugged in, of course.) Wait for "The Govmint" to come and haul them away in the night!
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Around 1988 I saw the David Jones PM wheel disassembled. A year later someone in the contest guessed it, and won our $1000 prize. Hint: don't over-think it, since the secret isn't nearly as complicated as everyone imagines.
If any machine were actually capable of perpetual motion, it would begin moving without any initial push.
If the Wright Brothers' plane was actually real, it wouldn't need to be launched using a falling-weight catapult. And industrial AC synchronous motors are an obvious hoax, since they won't start without an initial push.
A self trained Mechanical Engineer and home inventor, a friend of mine used the magnetic wheel gadget. However his wheel also had water pouring on it, like the old water wheels. He was proud of his magnets accelerating the wheel to incredible speeds. When last seen he was tweaking the magnet switching mechanics. I never had the heart to point out the many flaws. Water wheels have great power and easily charged the low voltage DC batteries and for the solenoids. I never had the heart to say it was not perpetual motion which he claimed.
1:20 - False! Nothing is impossible. We just don’t have the technology to do it yet.
False! Everything is impossible.
That’s like saying unicorns aren’t impossible, we just haven’t breed the right animals yet. It’s impossible because energy cannot be “created”(as in a system cannot create anymore energy than is already available within it). We can make things that are extremely efficient and utilize as much of the available energy within a system, but it will never create or utilize more energy than is available like what would be required for a perpetual motion machine.
Though I admire your spirit, there are many things that are categorically impossible.
I would say from a human standpoint there is enough energy in the universe to use for whatever purpose to last forever until everybody dead. Just find a way to capture this energy and there you go. Perpetual.
It's very impossible
my personal conclusion for one of the daedalus machines is compressed air at low pressure being blown onto the sides of the bicycle wheel. its dead simple, low maintenance and extremely reliable, and all parts needed are clearly there.
That's not it. When his machine was exhibited at Boston's Museum of Science, we had it apart every nine months, for "servicing." It would only run for about that long.
"Perpetual energy from God"
Two falsehoods in just four words.
But you skipped the most important thing with the drinking bird!
“Where does it get its energy when it’s running?”
From the heat in the air! Specifically, the heat difference between the air and water. Water is ever so slightly cooler than air. Sure, it’s very inefficient, but wonderfully close to “perpetual motion” as the energy is always available!
Perpetual motion is improbable but not impossible
It is impossible by the First Law of Thermodynamics. Read the Wikipedia article.
@@geoffreypiltz271 Because Wikipedia is oh so reliable!
"Anything is possible," is something people tell children to get them excited about the universe. It's not actually true. Perpetual motion is only possible if you completely change foundational physics. At that point you're talking about an entirely different universe, or as many call it, "fiction."
@@TP-om8of you can go to the sources for that Wikipedia article if you want something more reliable.
But perpetual motion is still impossible according to the law of thermodynamics.
@@TP-om8ofIf you don't trust Wikipedia itself (although I'm not sure there's much to be gained over deliberately misleading people over the laws of thermodynamics) there's the references used to write the page, such as one written by someone at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Anyway, perpetual motion is impossible.
Never give up. We don't know everything & therefore can't dispel tech we haven't discovered yet. I believe a lot of what we know was discovered years ago but we lost the technology . Never stop thinking about the possibilities.
I believe the only possible perpetual machine would be a robot with an AI brain. The AI part would be given the knowledge of how to repair itself and get energy. The robot part would be able to do the physical labor necessary to sustain itself. Making it possible to send it to anywhere. With its knowledge, it would be able to manufacture or create what is necessary to keep it going indefinitely. The robot part could be made to run on any type of energy. The AI part would give it knowledge on how to take raw materials for its own repair and to create power sources. We have AI's today that can learn. A good example of this is AlphaZero. Given just the rules of chess was able to teach itself to be any Grandmaster within hours. Giving it all of the knowledge necessary to keep itself running would allow it to be autonomous. We are not at that level yet to create such a machine but technically it would fulfill the definition of a perpetual motion machine.
Perpetual motion machines are not supposed to use some external energy. It is not the same as autonomous.
I remember seeing a special on the discovery channel about perpetual motion machines. One guy had a crazy looking Ferris wheel type thing with water bottles hooked up to it, and it was ridiculous looking.
One guy had a track that a metal ball rolled around on, and it had a ramp on one end. It was mounted to a huge concrete block so vibrations etc wouldn’t knock it out of phase.
A common oversight when considering the possibility of a perpetual motion machine is the need for it to operate in conditions that are virtually impossible to achieve. For such a device to work, it would require a "perfect" vacuum-completely devoid of any matter or particles. Additionally, it would need to exist at absolute zero, the theoretical temperature where all molecular motion ceases. Moreover, it couldn't be influenced by any external forces, such as gravity, sunlight, radio waves, or any form of external energy or interference.
Beyond that, the machine couldn't rely on anything that deteriorates over time, such as batteries, chemical reactions, or nuclear decay. These materials all break down and lose efficiency, leading to inevitable energy loss. This is why perpetual motion machines are fundamentally impossible-they violate the laws of thermodynamics, especially the conservation of energy, which dictates that energy cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system.
Even the testing facility for a perpetual motion machine would be nearly impossible to engineer. Creating a perfectly isolated environment, completely free from external influences, and maintaining it at absolute zero is beyond our current technological capabilities. These extreme conditions underscore why the concept of perpetual motion, while intriguing, is simply unattainable in practice.
In reality, what most people actually do is trying to create the most efficient way possible they think they can to conserve energy as much as possible.
That's what it boils down to because what they think they can do, is virtually impossible otherwise.
Cambridge scientist and mathematician Professor Sir Arthur Eddington once defined an "intellectual" as "Someone who understands the principles and implications of the Second Law of Thermodynamics."
Oh, there is such a thing as perpetual motion. Here's how. Put a priest on a treadmill with a little boy in front, just out of arms reach. Hey presto, there you have it, perpetual motion.
Perpetual motion might not be possible with our current understanding of how to bend and break the laws of physics, but I do think it is very much so possible to create something that is close enough that you could make something that would run for a VERY long time.
Sure. A flywheel, in a vacuum, supported on magnetic bearings. Give it a good push and I'm sure it would spin for quite a while. So what? You can never EXTRACT more usable energy from it than you initially put in with your push.
I'm a complete sceptic of perpetual motion, but I am fascinated by the approaches. It started when I was a kid and hooked 6 dynamos up to a single motor and was perplexed when they would produce enough energy to power the motor.
Amazing video yet again! I've been wondering, do you speak like this in your normal life as well? I'm just curious, I dig it a lot when people are well-spoken.
the "God and I claim" is wild
The drinking bird will work if you place it next to something that radiates a small amount of heat without any water. My mom was sick of dad's toy and stuck it "out of the way " , in doing so she ended up placing the lower bulb near the cooling fan of the cable box and now it works all the time without needing a top up of water
Even though a perpetual motion machine is impossible, if one did exist, wouldn't it have to give off literally zero sound, as the sound would come from friction and that friction would wear down the parts of the machine over time to the point where eventually it'd stop working? And what about heat? Wouldn't the heat be a release of energy that would add up over time?
I thought that too and even in space with no sound it would need a way to get the energy to earth which would be energy taken away from the actual machine
Perpetual motion is impossible on earth. It's just a matter of how long the motion will occur. Plus, it is totally useless unless it can do some work. Which it can't.
It's impossible anywhere
How DEDICATED is a Creator who shaves and paints himself blue just to show it in a mere seconds of the video!!!
Had my headphone volume cranked when this video started. Almost blew out my eardrums with the "PREVIOUSLY!!!" intro.
Still a battery that only needs replacing every 100 years is not only an amazing achievement in itself (and could revolutionise the world) but it could sort of be looked at as an "almost" perpetual motion device in the way that it would likely last past most peoples lifetime so we would never know it stopped....
The saddest thing about all of this (except for the beauty of the pursuit of pure science) is that for a perpetual motion machine to have any groundbreaking human relevance it will have to deliver MORE power than is put into it, not just sit there at a point of energy equilibrium. So not only do you have to counteract friction etc (which also means that you will ultimately have to pay money to replace worn out parts), you have to create something out of more than its parts.
The closest thing I can think of in terms of perpetual motion are the stars and planets, doing their orbital/gravitational dance. Even then we know that won't last forever.
Still, the drive to create the nearest possible thing to a perpetual motion machine is FUN!
Technically gravity never stops "pulling" the objects, but eventually they'll hit the object, which obviously ceases movement.
If you could somehow prevent collision, it would pull straight to the center before stopping.
So it never really runs out of "energy" but that energy can only move things to 1 spot.
none of us have been around long enough to verify that aspect...
as one astrophycisist states... "a lot of this work is like watching a blade of grass and predicting the winner of the kentucky derby..."
come on, pluto hasnt even performed a full orbit since being discovered...
If a perpetual motion machine is created, then you wouldn't be able to hear it since that would be a loss of energy, you wouldn't be able to see it since the photons could slow it down/speed it up (loss or gain of energy), you wouldn't be able to smell it since any air it touches would slow it down, you wouldn't be able to taste it since your tongue could slow it down/speed it up (loss or gain of energy), you can't feel it for the same reason as the tongue. TLDL: If a perpetual motion machine is created you wouldn't be able to sense it in any way
Then how would we know it exists?
There was a guy who had a machine that turned a large fan blade rather slowly with just a very tiny current from a 9 volt battery. The battery energized a gerbil wheel with a high voltage from a multiplier circuit and shocked their little feet into running really fast.
gerbils only last for so long, and their excrement tends to accumulate.