I agree, I really loved his video on his own 4th gen Camaro. I think him doing his own car was really cool for him and helped him relax and be himself.
Seems to be recurring with most donut hosts even James took a bit to hit his stride if you watch the first bunch of up to speeds. Makes sense, it's harder than it looks to present these info dumps while still being entertaining.
As an engineering student, I truly appreciate the in depth break down of the science of atoms and the numbering system. Awesome stuff!!! Legit learning all of this stuff right now
"166 HP PER cylinder", when he said that I said to myself self "this car has more horsepower in each cylinder it has than my corolla" then he went and used it as an example!!
FYI: The sparks flying out of the engine during the dyno clip are the stock direct port injectors left in the engine overheating, melting and wrestling in the combustion chamber.
Dude papadakis straight took the b58, stripped everything off of it that made it a modern motor and basically made an aluminum 2j lol. It’s not exactly admirable.
@@TS-jq9ex its like its a 3j but you know just named differently coz at the end its just a 6 cylinder, very good factory built block with a maybe bmw badge??
I've always wondered this if you get a 3d printed part of any kind and any material is it or can you make it stronger than forged? Someone please tell me
@@holden2260(I am a german dude in mechanical engeneering so pls excuse my butchering of the english language) As far as I know the grain/material structure of what most people see as 3D printed parts (SLM = selective laser melting) is similar to welds which are almost always rather brittle but generally quite strong. Now lets get to the fun part! First lets talk a bit more about forged parts. The video explains the basics but as far as I can tell makes a few mistakes. As the material compresses and gets formed it also creates more tenslie strength by making it harder for the particles to move ( German "Kaltverfestigung" = "work hardening" - I hope thats correct ) and furthermore allows for better material strength in situations where there is a lot of oscillation/vibrations (like in a car or train). In summary Forging is great but really hard to get right and it holds a high expense up front (for the cast). Forged parts can again be made of many really stong materials Now 3D printed parts (especially with SLM = selective laser melting) are a very intresting topic and I dont claim to be an expert in this field but I am gonna try to do my best. How does it work: you have small metal granules that you melt with a laser and you do this for multiple layers Hoe does it compare to Forging ? : Well this depends hugely on the material you use. Keep in mind that the better the material the higher the cost (usually) but I think that for applications where there is not that much vibrations/osciallations they could compare. But generally forged parts are stronger especially in the already mentioned applications like trains maybe even planes etc. Where do 3D printed parts find apllication/are far superior - if you need the incredible funtionality, shapes etc. As you know there is a lot of really cool stuff. Now thats about it but if you really wanna see cool stuff where 3D printing with metals is applied on a really high level check out Nasa or SpaceX they create awesome stuff Maybe I was able to answer your question but generally it makes me happy that people like you are intrested in things like this nowadays- gives me some hope that humanity has a chance 🤣
@@nikovbn839 Very true. It's only free if you're broke AF or immune to advertising (which few are). Watch enough of these videos and eventually you'll find yourself buying crap you don't need. It's the American way.
well u need to understand that if it makes 1k hp it isnt the good engine watch engineering explained vid about BMEP and u will find out that hp isn't important, also im not sure if any 1k hp jz needs 3d printed metal
@@davitavazneli8573 yeah, no shit the jz doesn't need 3d printed metal, its been out for almost 30 years. People been working on the new supra for less than one.
@@arinb.756 dude 2jz makes 330hp and what do you mean it makes 1k hp lusing its reliability there are 2jz's that are making 3k hp and 2j block is solid iron so that doesnt has as much wear as the aluminium in b58 but needless to say 2j block weights more than b58 because of that
@@r3fotzirx What do you base that statment on? Did you even check out his channel, research a bit about the mans extensive tuner career, who puts him among the the best of the best world wide?
@@VikingRul3sAre you a bot? because i could find no sense in your post, Aasbo and Papadakis are sponsored by Toyota, what does that have to do with his tuner career or credentials?
Add all the air and fuel you want but a lot of cars are exhaust restricted from the factory, they can't dump the exhaust gas fast enough to begin with let alone with more of it.
He failed to mention that this is a poor attempt by Toyota to actually produce a successor to the Supra. Wake me when Toyota makes a real Supra, not this shit.
I mean 2JZ also need technically same modification to achieve 1000 hp with this (upgrade piston and conrod, porting, better injector, bigger turbo, upgrade valve). And people still called it "stock engine"
@@bocahdongo7769 to reach 1k hp 2jz needs bigger turbo better interculler exhaust system and pistons....BUT NOT THE LASER AND 3D PRINTED METAL that makes huge difference between b58 and 2j
Lol. Tell us how you really feel. While bothered by someone else’s opinion. I’m just waiting to see how it holds up. Not saying much of anything about it.
"Wanna see a 450hp engine doing a sub 10 Q mile?" "What car is it in? " " 70s Beetle (a Bug in America for some weird reason) " "Yeah. What engine did you use?" "An original 1.5 (I think)" Check out Dave Wheatley and Ben Lawrence from Northern Ireland (they're actually from England IIRC, but they live and race in NI)
He got a lot of hate because taking over a show from Pumphrey leaves some huge shoes to fill. He's also kinda creeping into the Science Garage content that hasn't been made since Burt left... I think he's overall gonna be a huge asset for Donut, he's just gotta sway all us hardheaded "we don't like no change" types over time.
So the biggest thing I learned about this BMW/Toyota project is that while BMW seems to develop cutting-edge engine technology, Toyota seems to be FAR more focused on longevity and engineering of every single piece (be it a nut, bolt, etc) that goes into the project. I think I even recall reading BMW saying how impressive it was that Toyota was evaluating each fastener. A stark contrast to how they spent development money. And I think that's really what separates the Supra from the... shit. I can't remember. Whatever the BMW car is that has more power. The Supra was more subdued, for sure. But it's definitely over-engineered. It's almost (tinfoil hat time) like they engineered a ton of overheard into this engine to make it specifically awesome to tuners. Doug DeMuro even theorized this back when the Supra was new, thanks to its many useless fake vents. But I think he was right. Toyota wanted to make another car worthy of tuners, and they did exactly that IMO. They wanted people to forget the MKIV and the 2JZ. Well, that's never going to happen, but this engine just might convert some people. The irony is that the "car guy" crowd who worships the 2JZ will never accept this, but the reality is that this engine probably is as good, if not better, because Toyota designed it to be exactly that. And don't get me wrong, I'm a car guy who LOVES the 2JZ, but I think Papadakis has proven that this is just a new generation of a great engine. BMW or not.
@@rars0n another thing toyota probably went with bmw because they knew the engine already was overdeveloped here in europe the engine was already known to take alot of horsepower and if toyota increases the reliability its even better
I've been following this series myself and I wasn't too surprised. So many people talked trash because the new Supra is basically a BMW. But now that we can see how well engineered BMW engines are people may give the Supra the respect it deserves. I for one think Toyota did a great job with this new car. Now if only everything else about BMW cars was as reliable as their engines. ;)
TBH, when I first heard of the BMW / Toyota collab for the Supra and Z4, I didn't think much of it till now. But to get 1k HP out of a stock power train with just a few new parts is absolutely insane. Who woulda thought that 2 of the titans of the automotive industry could create, and pretty much future proof such a magnificent beast.
It can take 800whp on stock internals(more is possible but with the risk of the rods twisting) but this is the version with 2 port heads he was using. The 2021 Has 6 port heads with a lower compression ratio,different heads,and different pistons so the 2021s are going to give the mk5s a bit of a kicked once their out.
So then, The new supra looks good, was tuned the shit out of at Sema and can now make a 1000HP with the stock engine. Seems like the new supra is a *real* Supra afterall
Well, that's what Akio and Tada wanted to do with the Mk5. They wanted to make the car more tuning friendly so car enthusiasts can upgrade their Mk5s whatever they want in terms of performance (I congratulate Stephen with his time, effort and research to tune the B58 up to 1000HP) and body-kits (Damn there's a lot of nice body-kit designs of the MK5 at SEMA. I personally like the Heritage Edition and 3000GT Concept). Also with your last sentence, in my opinion all Supras are real Supras. All I can say is each Supras are special in different ways. I'm one of those car enthusiasts who respects all kinds of sports cars including popular/average sport cars despite the flaws.
Man. The details on the explanation and animations are amazing. I know nothing about cars, but am beginning to understand them inside and out more and more because of Donut! This episode plus Money Pit is truly gold!
@@orppranator5230 not always. I Was damn near 6 ft tall with a goatee when I was 12. I raced BMX then and those kids looked sad as hell when I rolled up on the gate and they saw they were racing against a man child.
I have to say that all you young thundercats rolling around the car world today are SO FORTUNATE to have youtube and channels like Donut to learn so much so quickly. I wish I had stuff like this when I first got into cars because I wouldn't have had to learn the hard way nearly as often. Kudos to Donut & Jeremiah for putting this together. Nicely done.
My favorite class I took last semester was Engineering Materials and Processes. The entire class was taught by a mega gear head who designed turbine blades for Boeing and the class was basically “Steel 101”. So if that stuff about grain structure was interesting to you, that would be a cool class to take.
I was honestly surprised by the hatred for this engine when the Supra was announced considering BMW is one of the most awarded engine builders of all time and has had at least one engine on Ward's 10 Best Engines every year but two since 1994, of which, a B58 variant has been awarded four separate times.
It's a pretty sad day when toyota, of all manufacturers, (re)releases something this iconic can't come up with their own engine. I love BMW but how does that apply here?
Just because of wins best engines doesn't make it any more reliable or any more powerful Toyota's best efforts of creating their own engine back in the 90s. It might be good for BMW's reputation but it's a downgrade for Toyotas
Yes, from quality perspective there's nothing wrong with the engine itself, but when it comes to legacy & identity it's not just about how good is the engine but also WHO made the engine. Cheers!
@@seirv0621 I think the biggest issue is that the Toyota engines were made in the 90s. Even though they lasted to the current times through intense modding but the 2JZ is in all terms outdated now days. I don't think engines this simple and soo over engineered stand nowdays. I mean stock for stock MK.V is soo much better. Whilst not as durable the B58 is still but the high power builds already start appearing. Imagine when few years down the line people come up with new ways to mod them. Also whilst being a non Toyota engine in a legacy Toyota is odd. Technically a wider platform means more people mod them so it could run modding prices down to pretty affordable prices something that the 2J isn't. And without BMW help, the new Supra just wouldnt exist there is no reason for Toyota to make a pretty niche car like the supra so be happy, as a Mitsubishi fan trust me they could have made the new Supra in a million worse ways
Roy_ 2222 yeah but this one doesn’t he did it to prove these people wrong pretty much if you watch his Supra motor build series he liked the engine and how it was built
This is the most insanely good explanation of an engine I've even seen. I swear I could show this to the grade 1 class my wife teaches and they could follow. Amazing job guys!
There is tons of knowledge in this video! I absolutely love how much respect you're giving to the craft. I really enjoyed the metallurgy reviewer man! Get nerdy with it, I don't mind it at all! Mad respect for the effort put into this informative wholesome content!
I believe this is the first Donut Media vid I've watched and damn it's good. Recently finishing a machining degree and currently working on a welding degree; we gotta know our metallurgy and damn if his explanation on casting, forging and even breaking down of the numbering identification of steels, didn't nail in a few minutes what took a few weeks to cover. Entertaining too!?! Well done y'all, well done!
Let me educate.. This is not a Supra. Its the monster of Frankenstein with a Supra nameplate. Hopefully Toyota actually makes a new Supra cuz this aint it.
Papadakis' step-by-step videos are a class on its own in both ways, it's a masterclass to understand how everything works and it's done but also high-quality content for whoever is curious enough to learn a bit.
You guys can teach more in a 25 min video than most of my professors can in a whole semester. Please keep posting videos like this, young people are not being taught this.
I love this video format - I want to know all about materials and the engineering. I didn't really like Jeremiah when he was just going through cars like James, but this... this is really his own thing. I'm a bigger fan of this over the old Science Garage. Love the long format, love the organization, love the passion and nerding out. Keep up the good work, I'm learning a ton!
Guys, I love the new B2B format, You explain everything in a very cool and interesting way. But can You also put in videos metric units (Nm, cm3, mm, etc.) together with imperial, so people from other countries, like... I don't know... Poland perhaps, can enjoy the full experience ;)
The new motor is fine. I'm irritated about all the fake vents, especially the ones glued to the door. It has one functional vent- the center grille vent. WTH Toyota?
I guess thats why they hate the mk3 supra too. "It's not a real supra" is what I see often regarding the mk3 because it has the 1jz. Its pretty comfortable and decently fast, headgasket issues nonwithstanding...
JJJ mk3 is before the 2j so calling it not a Supra is too far but the a90 yeah it could could be fast and everything but it just not like a Supra yeah it could be more efficient and blah blah blah but mk4 will always be the most loved Supra
Jeremiah: Here is why forged parts are stronger than cast. Everyone: That's really interesting Me (being material engineering student): "I hate everything"
@@chuarh7393 I could be wrong but my understanding is that when materials are forged it makes the grain structure flow around the edges. Can sorta be seen at 12:39. It makes the grains on the much tougher compared to just having uniform grains to the edge.
Ive been lookin for a new Supra for years... Instead we got this Bmw with a Supra nameplate. Common Toyota, dont fail us like this.. Still waiting for you to right youre wrong.. Im optimistic that they will make one still...
@@Cre8tive81 Still, it's a decent car. If you hate about "BMW Zupra" stereotype, just remember that McLaren F1 using BMW engine. Or the fact that modern Bugatti's are technically developed in co-operation with VW
@@ivanbima5877 In both of your examples you gave they never called it what it wasnt.. The F1 wasn't called a M3+ or instead of Vayron it was called a Golf Super.. or something stupid.. they are new developments with new marketing and new designs. Dont call it a Supera if its not a Supra.
Absolutely amazing! I’m been watching him build this engine from day one. I love my V8s, but straight 6 FTW. B58 is going to be a monster once they find ways to duplicate this affordably.
Thanks for such a detailed yet simple to understand video, really helped me understand how, and why everything that was done works. Absolutely love this sort of content
@@ulicesalcantar1274 he changed the crankshaft, the time on the dyno when he said it can hold 1000hp but they need NOS thats why they need more reliable crankshaft than the stock one,
The fact you tought me more about engiens while staing so awake and how you make that 1000hp that are in that supra to stay and not to break because of the quallity of the build got me speachless
Steph is an absolute LEGEND and if you don't know him, you need to learn something. He's been innovating since basically forever. I have been following his experimenting with the new Supra engine so it was no surprise to see him hit 1000 HP first. I love how Steph doesn't play favorites and just gets to work in seeing what's possible. THAT is how you innovate.
angry 12 yr olds be like: *bRuH eVeRyOnE knOws tHe B58 sUcKs 2jz gUuD* edit: I may have started a war in the comments edit 2: haha you thought it was omg thanks for the likes, but no it’s the man behind the slaughter
12yrs don't know what a supra is......... you mean people around the supra craze. The 2jz is a strong engine an it's still crazy by today's standards, it's like the ls a 20-30yr engine still used today. The issue is bmw is not know for reliability an Toyota an Lexus are know for reliability.
J.J. H the only thing good thing about the 2jz is it's stock tuning potential. Nothing special about it other than that. Does it have such crazy technology as the modern once? No. Does it have a gas milage as good as the modern engine? No. 2jz is so overrated
@@BraveNewwor1d BMW has an incredibly good track record of reliable engines... I'm not sure where you get your information but if you look at reliability by manufacture BMW is incredibly high up the list.
@@worlow1841 no one cares about mileage in this case and more complecsed tech means less reliability and more issues and b58 is way overrrated than 2j cuz it makes 1k hp and people are looking at it like its been never done before by any engine or company
@@TurboVisBits those lists are done by reports from consumers which arent always honest one of the most reliable car in the world is land cruiser of any gen
"It's stock, all the important bits are custom forged but that's not important" I understand why people say it the way they do, but wouldn't stock block and bearings be more descriptive?
@@I_dont_read_responses exactly, on the other hand is my Bugeye WRX with literally just an intake and custom exhaust with a little bit of a tune and a stage 2 clutch. Making roughly 260whp horsepower just waiting on my actually stock engine and/or stock 5 speed with 140k miles to blow up
I am a first year motorsport engineering student and you just perfectly explained my whole first semester hahah. Generally, I adore Donut Media because you guys explain everything in details and it's always interesting to watch you
"Is the B58 better than a 2JZ?! I say it's got the potential to dethrone the king. Change my mind" - Jeremiah
Donut Media I would love to fight you 🥱
The 335i was the new Supra, so i guess this engine is the same
what are yall talking about the Lexus IS 250 V6 is the king (Totally not the worst engine ever built😅)
Jeremiah, B58 may be better than the 2JZ but the guy used frikkin lazer tech to do something, whereas 2JZ could be tuned by even a simple mechanic.
Of course it's a better engine, it's 30 years newer. It had better be.
Since Jeremiah started to be himself instead of trying to be James, his videos got a LOT BETTER. Congrats man.
I agree, I really loved his video on his own 4th gen Camaro. I think him doing his own car was really cool for him and helped him relax and be himself.
I did’nt realize it but i think thats why i was able to watch this whole video lol
This is the first of his videos I've seen and thats all I could think about TBH. He sounds like a substitute James.
the VS guy annoys me
Seems to be recurring with most donut hosts even James took a bit to hit his stride if you watch the first bunch of up to speeds. Makes sense, it's harder than it looks to present these info dumps while still being entertaining.
This guys growing on me haha, I’m glad he isn’t trying to be James or Nolan. He’s better off as himself! Great video guys
I knew he'd come around. He was just new to a camera
Idk. He rambles alot and gets off the intent of the video
@@matthewmcclain1316 he was also reading a script that was written for james
I think he’s an engineer
@@yogurtofficial he is
Do a bumper to bumper on James car once it’s done
Yes, this is a great idea!
Do james have a project car?
@@SelimDenizli54 Yes, a Mk3 Golf.
I love me a good Pumphrey 502
@DFB58 that's literally what was said lol. It's gonna be done after quarantine because it's in Europe right now
As an engineering student, I truly appreciate the in depth break down of the science of atoms and the numbering system. Awesome stuff!!! Legit learning all of this stuff right now
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@@user-eg1pn3sn3jpapa?
"166 HP PER cylinder", when he said that I said to myself self "this car has more horsepower in each cylinder it has than my corolla" then he went and used it as an example!!
RyanCooper each cylinder makes DOUBLE what my ranger makes TOTAL
RyanCooper I thought you drive a 240sx 🧐
@@maxruggiero4338 ouf, that's rough. I feel ya!
@@andrewhinz9432 after retirement, not anymore.
Jeremiah whooped u decent
It’s incredible that this pandemic has made donut better than ever before
I thought I was the only person who thought this 😂.
We're getting so much and they're the most amazing people
This is sick, I learned so much from this, hopefully there's more like this.
"Average 12 year old weighs 135 lbs"
me over here at 14 weighing 220 confused screaming
The editing was very nice but now it's great. I think it's only gets behind mustard videos...but it's different approach there
FYI: The sparks flying out of the engine during the dyno clip are the stock direct port injectors left in the engine overheating, melting and wrestling in the combustion chamber.
Is that true??? 😳
Dude papadakis straight took the b58, stripped everything off of it that made it a modern motor and basically made an aluminum 2j lol. It’s not exactly admirable.
@@TS-jq9ex why not? It's better then stuffing an LS in it.
@@TS-jq9ex its like its a 3j but you know just named differently coz at the end its just a 6 cylinder, very good factory built block with a maybe bmw badge??
He made a plate so instead of leaving the old ones in now
I've learned so much from Donut and they're the reason I'm going to automotive school. Thank y'all so damn much 🙏🏼
I've always wondered this if you get a 3d printed part of any kind and any material is it or can you make it stronger than forged? Someone please tell me
@@holden2260(I am a german dude in mechanical engeneering so pls excuse my butchering of the english language) As far as I know the grain/material structure of what most people see as 3D printed parts (SLM = selective laser melting) is similar to welds which are almost always rather brittle but generally quite strong.
Now lets get to the fun part! First lets talk a bit more about forged parts. The video explains the basics but as far as I can tell makes a few mistakes. As the material compresses and gets formed it also creates more tenslie strength by making it harder for the particles to move ( German "Kaltverfestigung" = "work hardening" - I hope thats correct ) and furthermore allows for better material strength in situations where there is a lot of oscillation/vibrations (like in a car or train). In summary Forging is great but really hard to get right and it holds a high expense up front (for the cast). Forged parts can again be made of many really stong materials
Now 3D printed parts (especially with SLM = selective laser melting) are a very intresting topic and I dont claim to be an expert in this field but I am gonna try to do my best.
How does it work: you have small metal granules that you melt with a laser and you do this for multiple layers
Hoe does it compare to Forging ? : Well this depends hugely on the material you use. Keep in mind that the better the material the higher the cost (usually) but I think that for applications where there is not that much vibrations/osciallations they could compare. But generally forged parts are stronger especially in the already mentioned applications like trains maybe even planes etc.
Where do 3D printed parts find apllication/are far superior - if you need the incredible funtionality, shapes etc. As you know there is a lot of really cool stuff.
Now thats about it but if you really wanna see cool stuff where 3D printing with metals is applied on a really high level check out Nasa or SpaceX they create awesome stuff
Maybe I was able to answer your question but generally it makes me happy that people like you are intrested in things like this nowadays- gives me some hope that humanity has a chance 🤣
@@hypex6881 Das ist super! danke..
Good luck with school!
Can’t believe this content is free
There is no such thing as "free" stuff.
@@nikovbn839 Very true. It's only free if you're broke AF or immune to advertising (which few are). Watch enough of these videos and eventually you'll find yourself buying crap you don't need. It's the American way.
Me too mann.😭😭😭😭😭👌🏾 Hope they don't...
👀I don't wanna say it!, It might give them a clue 😑🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️
Shhh don't give them any ideas
@@Burt1038 y'all really buy things from ads?
Supra fanboys: Impossible, perhaps the archives are incomplete.
well u need to understand that if it makes 1k hp it isnt the good engine watch engineering explained vid about BMEP and u will find out that hp isn't important, also im not sure if any 1k hp jz needs 3d printed metal
@@davitavazneli8573 yeah, no shit the jz doesn't need 3d printed metal, its been out for almost 30 years. People been working on the new supra for less than one.
Nah, we aren’t saying anything. Just watching to see how it holds up.
Lmao this comment became a war zone in 30 minutes
@@arinb.756 dude 2jz makes 330hp and what do you mean it makes 1k hp lusing its reliability there are 2jz's that are making 3k hp and 2j block is solid iron so that doesnt has as much wear as the aluminium in b58 but needless to say 2j block weights more than b58 because of that
If anyone was curious, the transition music they used is called "Kids on the Porch" - ISO Indies & "Salamanca" - Sarah Illstrumentalist
Every youtube video has that one guy who knows the name of the song
Life's good
you absolute god
Lol okay, whats the music at 1:19 ?!
@@msdsmti7678 "Wash" by Timothy Infinite
Buys a 2020 Supra and immediately voids all imaginable warranties.
I believe Papadakis and his driver mr Aasbo are partially backed by toyota though.
These guys are a warranty all on their own.
What an absolute lad.
@@r3fotzirx What do you base that statment on? Did you even check out his channel, research a bit about the mans extensive tuner career, who puts him among the the best of the best world wide?
@@VikingRul3sAre you a bot? because i could find no sense in your post, Aasbo and Papadakis are sponsored by Toyota, what does that have to do with his tuner career or credentials?
The donut equation isn't just more air + more fuel = more power
It's MORE AIR + MORE FUEL = MORE POWER BABY **LIGHTNING LIGHTNING LIGHTNING**
Add all the air and fuel you want but a lot of cars are exhaust restricted from the factory, they can't dump the exhaust gas fast enough to begin with let alone with more of it.
*Mo powah babeh
Shaun Dewey you don’t get it, do you?
Shaun Dewey it's a reference to the channel 😂
1000 of the buffest most beautiful horses you've ever seen
This man explains really well and goes into detail while keeping us entertained he's my favorite 🔥🔥
He failed to mention that this is a poor attempt by Toyota to actually produce a successor to the Supra. Wake me when Toyota makes a real Supra, not this shit.
@nutflixx Cant give injustice a rest.. sorry.
@@Cre8tive81 Does any of you in the comment ever had an A80?
@@Cre8tive81 What don't you like about the new Supras, compared to the old ones?
That was literally the most informative car video I've ever seen, thank you.
Ethan Vermillion and how content is awesome!
And yet no mention that this is a Bmw z4 with a Supra nameplate.. I expected more honesty.
@@Cre8tive81 also I mean this motor is literally in any "40i" BMW since like 2016. Love or hate the supra, BMW makes badass L6
I maybe late but im happy this comment section is not turned into war zone like the other lol #sorrybadenglish
Papa’s phone looking like - *Koenigsegg has sent a friend request*
"still using stock engine"
me: okkkk...
"limited modifications"
me: I SEE YOU
"rebuilt using lasers and 3D printed metal"
me: waaaait a minute
I mean 2JZ also need technically same modification to achieve 1000 hp with this (upgrade piston and conrod, porting, better injector, bigger turbo, upgrade valve). And people still called it "stock engine"
@@bocahdongo7769 stock = factory head lights
@@bocahdongo7769 to reach 1k hp 2jz needs bigger turbo better interculler exhaust system and pistons....BUT NOT THE LASER AND 3D PRINTED METAL that makes huge difference between b58 and 2j
@Lassi Kinnunen nah fam! Them headlights or it aint stock!
Stock Block*
Just waiting to see how long they last while in NORMAL peoples hands. Whom don’t have a limitless resources to throw at it.
i read the title and was like "oh, papadakis?"
Same
SAME
papa dakis
daddy dakis
Hahaha I was looking for this comment
Oh no. Here come the 2JZ Keyboard Warriors.
(Sidenote: only thing I hate about the new Supra is the E-dipstick. Damn you, Germans.)
Hope there's aftermarket oil pan soon
I feel you dude
Lol. Tell us how you really feel. While bothered by someone else’s opinion. I’m just waiting to see how it holds up. Not saying much of anything about it.
Thank you!
Bluetooth dipsticks add 50hp everyone knows that
I'm glad to see that a few years on, the A90 is slowly getting the respect it deserves. It's an amazing car, and the scene for it is thriving!
Stephan: Wanna see a 1000hp supra
Me: You MUST have money to blow. What engine did you use.
Stephan: A stock one
"Wanna see a 450hp engine doing a sub 10 Q mile?"
"What car is it in? "
" 70s Beetle (a Bug in America for some weird reason) "
"Yeah. What engine did you use?"
"An original 1.5 (I think)"
Check out Dave Wheatley and Ben Lawrence from Northern Ireland (they're actually from England IIRC, but they live and race in NI)
@@LiamNI NI gangggg
@@LiamNI they classic Beatles are called Beatles here in the US. The remake is called a bug. And those are Karen cars.
Michael somepersonsname it's not a stock motor. It may be a B58, but it's a built motor when you start upgrading with forged internals.
@@voltairee3012 in my country, people know the vw beatle as frog car
This guy is quickly becoming my favorite donut host just genuinely funny and charismatic guy
Yeah, I kinda loathe the average donut viewer now though because of the shit he had to take. Too many shit for brains in the comments.
Found his own style and rhythm. Didn’t take long.
Yes, but could use an audio mic upgrade
He got a lot of hate because taking over a show from Pumphrey leaves some huge shoes to fill. He's also kinda creeping into the Science Garage content that hasn't been made since Burt left...
I think he's overall gonna be a huge asset for Donut, he's just gotta sway all us hardheaded "we don't like no change" types over time.
same here. growing on me
Me: Enjoying the video eating a PB sandwich
Jeremiah: "Weakasses do some push-ups"
Me: I didn't sign up for this
PB does protein get to work
Hey man don't take my pb&j
i know right...i pick up my controller alot....and chips..
So the biggest thing I learned about this BMW/Toyota project is that while BMW seems to develop cutting-edge engine technology, Toyota seems to be FAR more focused on longevity and engineering of every single piece (be it a nut, bolt, etc) that goes into the project. I think I even recall reading BMW saying how impressive it was that Toyota was evaluating each fastener. A stark contrast to how they spent development money. And I think that's really what separates the Supra from the... shit. I can't remember. Whatever the BMW car is that has more power.
The Supra was more subdued, for sure. But it's definitely over-engineered. It's almost (tinfoil hat time) like they engineered a ton of overheard into this engine to make it specifically awesome to tuners. Doug DeMuro even theorized this back when the Supra was new, thanks to its many useless fake vents. But I think he was right. Toyota wanted to make another car worthy of tuners, and they did exactly that IMO. They wanted people to forget the MKIV and the 2JZ. Well, that's never going to happen, but this engine just might convert some people.
The irony is that the "car guy" crowd who worships the 2JZ will never accept this, but the reality is that this engine probably is as good, if not better, because Toyota designed it to be exactly that. And don't get me wrong, I'm a car guy who LOVES the 2JZ, but I think Papadakis has proven that this is just a new generation of a great engine. BMW or not.
Underrated comment right here
Bro has written paragraphs here lol
But bro this engine is 0% Toyota’s doing, bmw has been making this exact engine in the supra since 2016
@@danielselseleh8226 If you seriously think that, then you have no idea how this car was developed.
@@rars0n another thing toyota probably went with bmw because they knew the engine already was overdeveloped here in europe the engine was already known to take alot of horsepower and if toyota increases the reliability its even better
Nominating this guy for the most animated eyebrows on UA-cam.
H3h3 is also in the running but he has that tourette syndrome twitch going on
@@AV-zh6tq performance enhancing disability 😂
@@AV-zh6tq was about to mention h3 podcast
He must be related to the late Bill Paxton. Dude is a clone!
emilia clarke or ethan klein
I've been following this series myself and I wasn't too surprised. So many people talked trash because the new Supra is basically a BMW. But now that we can see how well engineered BMW engines are people may give the Supra the respect it deserves. I for one think Toyota did a great job with this new car.
Now if only everything else about BMW cars was as reliable as their engines. ;)
Wait, so you're telling me making critical parts (such as cooling systems) out of mattel-grade plastics is a bad thing? Getoutofhere...
Burt1038 I’m not telling you anything other than, thank you for sharing your thoughts. You are appreciated. (:
@james avery you are probably 12 and never owned a bmw
@james avery That's explain it's pretty well
james avery Great come back. I got a good laugh. (:
This madly from donut just took us through a science, history, and engineering unit in about 27 mins.
I'm studying automotive engineering. you guys just covered 5 of my courses in a video
I mean… only 5?
@@hunterreeves6525 I mean, atleast they got them covered, 5 subjects or not.
look at his eyes and focus on the right light its wild
Stop smoking your weekly supermarket flyer my dude
😂😂😂😂😂
Gayyyy
It does look trippy af if that's all you look at.
@@nickm6443 don't use that word I'm that context,
TBH, when I first heard of the BMW / Toyota collab for the Supra and Z4, I didn't think much of it till now. But to get 1k HP out of a stock power train with just a few new parts is absolutely insane. Who woulda thought that 2 of the titans of the automotive industry could create, and pretty much future proof such a magnificent beast.
It can take 800whp on stock internals(more is possible but with the risk of the rods twisting) but this is the version with 2 port heads he was using. The 2021 Has 6 port heads with a lower compression ratio,different heads,and different pistons so the 2021s are going to give the mk5s a bit of a kicked once their out.
+SMG516 I wouldnt call that few.. the 2JZ has been actieving those power levels with less parts changed for 20+ years.
@@I_dont_read_responses that's nice
@@I_dont_read_responses It didnt happen the same year though. It took awhile for the 2jz to achieve those numbers.
@@GokuTheHusky that's cuz we were all still learning. Way easier to make 6-700 hp out a 2jz than b58. B58s break when you add 1-200 hp
So then, The new supra looks good, was tuned the shit out of at Sema and can now make a 1000HP with the stock engine.
Seems like the new supra is a *real* Supra afterall
Well, that's what Akio and Tada wanted to do with the Mk5. They wanted to make the car more tuning friendly so car enthusiasts can upgrade their Mk5s whatever they want in terms of performance (I congratulate Stephen with his time, effort and research to tune the B58 up to 1000HP) and body-kits (Damn there's a lot of nice body-kit designs of the MK5 at SEMA. I personally like the Heritage Edition and 3000GT Concept).
Also with your last sentence, in my opinion all Supras are real Supras. All I can say is each Supras are special in different ways. I'm one of those car enthusiasts who respects all kinds of sports cars including popular/average sport cars despite the flaws.
+MadJamYT It could make 10,000hp.. still wont make it a real Supra. Its second place even to the A70, but at least thats a Toyota.
@@I_dont_read_responses just because it has bmw engine doesnt mean its not a real supra, i never heard someone say mclaren f1 isnt a real mclaren.
@@siapitapit3605 still not a Supra. MK4 was the last true JDM car from Toyota.
Modern one is made by European factory.
@@I_dont_read_responses your name is literally supraman how am I supposed to take your opinion seriously?
Man. The details on the explanation and animations are amazing. I know nothing about cars, but am beginning to understand them inside and out more and more because of Donut! This episode plus Money Pit is truly gold!
Man last time I learned so much from a Donut Media video is when Bart was still doing Science Garage videos. Keep up the great work Jeremiah!!
I miss bart
MKIV Supra smiling: They did it....
I can rest now
Its fans: We still like you better!!!
MKIV: Oh god why me
The Ike 😂
😆😆😆
MK IV: My true successor
mk4: My time has cone
That's my son c':
335HP is actually quite a bit of horsepower. That's really good, getting that out of a small block Chevy engine back in the day was notable
the show: stephan papadakis
me:
*veen deesle*
It is his uncle i think check up good eye
Yeah I gotta convince myself everytime that it's Stephan and not Vin.
Diesel tiiime! (throwback to Brian's impersonation, may he R.I.P.)
Guess you can say this is THE 10 second car
nah fam, maxu orido is de wae
"The average weight of a 12 year old is 135 lbs." Me at 21 weighing 135 lbs.
Only giant ass 12 year olds weigh 135
A 12 year old boy is barely 100 lbs, a girl is less.
@@orppranator5230 not always. I Was damn near 6 ft tall with a goatee when I was 12. I raced BMX then and those kids looked sad as hell when I rolled up on the gate and they saw they were racing against a man child.
Me at 12 weighing 215 @_@
Maybe he's from Texas
Day 10 on asking James to da an up to speed on him self.
Young Exotics lol
I'd want one for each on screen employee 👍🏻
But that's not James
bumper2bumper on him instead
I like this guy. One of the first people to ever got me to watch a 30 minute video on UA-cam. He simplified things and made it fun.
I have to say that all you young thundercats rolling around the car world today are SO FORTUNATE to have youtube and channels like Donut to learn so much so quickly. I wish I had stuff like this when I first got into cars because I wouldn't have had to learn the hard way nearly as often. Kudos to Donut & Jeremiah for putting this together. Nicely done.
I saw this build before never thought I would see it here
Papadakis for life
This is gonna be Fredric Aasbos Formula Drift 2020 Car
I never even thought i would see somethin' like this......
Same wach all the videos of the build
Donut taught me how an engine works.
His real name is Clarence
and clarence's parents have a real nice marriage
F the free world!
This is a fantastic comment.
Oh lookie, how can 6 d...s be p.....s
4pac, 3pac, 2pac, 1. You're pac, he's pac, no pac, NONE!
My favorite class I took last semester was Engineering Materials and Processes. The entire class was taught by a mega gear head who designed turbine blades for Boeing and the class was basically “Steel 101”. So if that stuff about grain structure was interesting to you, that would be a cool class to take.
"EGM 3520 - My Mechanics of Materials class was one of my favorites during college" - Jeremiah
Donut Media At one point did you ever receive “blow torch 101”? Lol. That was a fun day
I was honestly surprised by the hatred for this engine when the Supra was announced considering BMW is one of the most awarded engine builders of all time and has had at least one engine on Ward's 10 Best Engines every year but two since 1994, of which, a B58 variant has been awarded four separate times.
Not a BMW fanboy and not trying to start anything but I own an F02 with the N63. This made me chuckle.
It's a pretty sad day when toyota, of all manufacturers, (re)releases something this iconic can't come up with their own engine.
I love BMW but how does that apply here?
Just because of wins best engines doesn't make it any more reliable or any more powerful Toyota's best efforts of creating their own engine back in the 90s. It might be good for BMW's reputation but it's a downgrade for Toyotas
Yes, from quality perspective there's nothing wrong with the engine itself, but when it comes to legacy & identity it's not just about how good is the engine but also WHO made the engine. Cheers!
@@seirv0621 I think the biggest issue is that the Toyota engines were made in the 90s. Even though they lasted to the current times through intense modding but the 2JZ is in all terms outdated now days. I don't think engines this simple and soo over engineered stand nowdays. I mean stock for stock MK.V is soo much better. Whilst not as durable the B58 is still but the high power builds already start appearing. Imagine when few years down the line people come up with new ways to mod them. Also whilst being a non Toyota engine in a legacy Toyota is odd. Technically a wider platform means more people mod them so it could run modding prices down to pretty affordable prices something that the 2J isn't. And without BMW help, the new Supra just wouldnt exist there is no reason for Toyota to make a pretty niche car like the supra so be happy, as a Mitsubishi fan trust me they could have made the new Supra in a million worse ways
At least he stuck to the stock engine, unlike other 2jz obsessed people who build these cars
he did another 2020 supra with a 2jz xD
Roy_ 2222 yeah but this one doesn’t he did it to prove these people wrong pretty much if you watch his Supra motor build series he liked the engine and how it was built
"Come find me at my house"
My guy. Those are some risky words. Youre underestimating youtube members.
*fight
It’s been nagging at me but I think I finally got it, he’s connor from cyberlife.
"01110011 01101111 01110011" - Jeremiah
@@Donut You wrote "OSO" what does that mean? Did you type something random?
@@eskilstenodegard8188 It's actually "sos"
Bryan Dechart = Jeremiah Burton
"28 stab wounds!"
As a fellow engineer I really appreciate your material and mechanical properties presentation. Once an engineer, always an engineer!
All I want to say is that no one ever docked points from the McLaren F1 for having a Bimmer engine...
Camracer R z4 engine is garbage tho
Back when bimmer made good engines...
To each their own
Wait wasn't it a Mercedes engine?
The f1 didn't have a direct successor that looked like an overgrown 570s using a BMW 4.4 and was called the F1
This is the most insanely good explanation of an engine I've even seen. I swear I could show this to the grade 1 class my wife teaches and they could follow. Amazing job guys!
There is tons of knowledge in this video! I absolutely love how much respect you're giving to the craft. I really enjoyed the metallurgy reviewer man! Get nerdy with it, I don't mind it at all! Mad respect for the effort put into this informative wholesome content!
I’m happy this guy letting his own character develop instead of forcing in jokes like previously. Starting to make better content then Nolan 👀
One of the best informative " without making me sleep" clips ever..
I believe this is the first Donut Media vid I've watched and damn it's good. Recently finishing a machining degree and currently working on a welding degree; we gotta know our metallurgy and damn if his explanation on casting, forging and even breaking down of the numbering identification of steels, didn't nail in a few minutes what took a few weeks to cover. Entertaining too!?! Well done y'all, well done!
This is sick, I learned so much from this, hopefully there's more like this.
Let me educate.. This is not a Supra. Its the monster of Frankenstein with a Supra nameplate. Hopefully Toyota actually makes a new Supra cuz this aint it.
@@Cre8tive81 it is a supra, even tho its use z4 as base model. If toyota make supra from scratch, its maybe would be overprice because of RnD.
Wait a second, either this isn’t science garage or Bart looks and sounds a whole lot different!
Don't you miss science garage? It's the show that brought me to Donut
@@kodas49greece I do miss science garage, it also brought me to Donut
Yeah whatever happened with that
@@BrandMalone24 the host got a kid so he left for taking care of the baby.
I know right. With extensive explanations, he reminds me of Bart from Science Garage. Ah, the good old days..
Papadakis' step-by-step videos are a class on its own in both ways, it's a masterclass to understand how everything works and it's done but also high-quality content for whoever is curious enough to learn a bit.
Last time I was this early James had mo powah baby
😔😔😔
this was less bumper to bumper and more, “fan to flywheel” i like it tho
its not the bumper 2 bumper series ...
SriLankanSavage yeah it is look at the bottom of the supra pic at 0:58 it says b2b
lmfao i love this
Fan to flywheel I love it 😂
You guys can teach more in a 25 min video than most of my professors can in a whole semester. Please keep posting videos like this, young people are not being taught this.
I love this video format - I want to know all about materials and the engineering. I didn't really like Jeremiah when he was just going through cars like James, but this... this is really his own thing. I'm a bigger fan of this over the old Science Garage. Love the long format, love the organization, love the passion and nerding out. Keep up the good work, I'm learning a ton!
It's almost like the engine was made to be built, sounds familiar...
Maybe....
Unless...
Not even close to 90s jdm, this car is still trash.
Jared Champagne bruh whats up ur ass, i’ve owned older jdm cars and it’s nice to see a new version no matter what
Jared Champagne the only think I prefer about the mk4 is it’s manual gearbox. The mk5 improves upon everything else.
Guys, I love the new B2B format, You explain everything in a very cool and interesting way.
But can You also put in videos metric units (Nm, cm3, mm, etc.) together with imperial, so people from other countries, like... I don't know... Poland perhaps, can enjoy the full experience ;)
Best, most clear yet simple explai engine of all things engines, power adders, issues, mechanics! Brilliant stuff!!!
I think the Supra is a great car and all the people who think that’s it’s not because it doesn’t have a 2JZ are wack.
Ethan Bleach retweet
It's just the fact that it doesnt have a 2jz engine in it not specifically the 2jz just a jz like why would u put a bmw engine in it
The new motor is fine. I'm irritated about all the fake vents, especially the ones glued to the door. It has one functional vent- the center grille vent. WTH Toyota?
I guess thats why they hate the mk3 supra too. "It's not a real supra" is what I see often regarding the mk3 because it has the 1jz. Its pretty comfortable and decently fast, headgasket issues nonwithstanding...
JJJ mk3 is before the 2j so calling it not a Supra is too far but the a90 yeah it could could be fast and everything but it just not like a Supra yeah it could be more efficient and blah blah blah but mk4 will always be the most loved Supra
Jeremiah: Here is why forged parts are stronger than cast.
Everyone: That's really interesting
Me (being material engineering student): "I hate everything"
beat me to it... doesnt it seem like they got it backwards?
Panos M. I didn’t get your comment. Are forged metal parts actually weaker? Is that what you meant?
@@josephma293 im curious
Yeah they got it backwards at least for steel. Don't know about aluminum. Uniformity is weaker in steels.
@@chuarh7393 I could be wrong but my understanding is that when materials are forged it makes the grain structure flow around the edges. Can sorta be seen at 12:39. It makes the grains on the much tougher compared to just having uniform grains to the edge.
Yo, I could listen to Jeremiah talk about hardcore engineering all day. Dude is a god damn legend
Feels like lot's of people gonna start looking for the new Supra when they see this video
Ive been lookin for a new Supra for years... Instead we got this Bmw with a Supra nameplate. Common Toyota, dont fail us like this.. Still waiting for you to right youre wrong.. Im optimistic that they will make one still...
Keep looking. Until you put twice the sticker under the hood you get a Miata.
@@TheSaxyG try like 3000 to make 600hp
@@Cre8tive81 Still, it's a decent car. If you hate about "BMW Zupra" stereotype, just remember that McLaren F1 using BMW engine. Or the fact that modern Bugatti's are technically developed in co-operation with VW
@@ivanbima5877 In both of your examples you gave they never called it what it wasnt.. The F1 wasn't called a M3+ or instead of Vayron it was called a Golf Super.. or something stupid.. they are new developments with new marketing and new designs. Dont call it a Supera if its not a Supra.
Absolutely amazing! I’m been watching him build this engine from day one. I love my V8s, but straight 6 FTW. B58 is going to be a monster once they find ways to duplicate this affordably.
Drinking game: take a shot every time you hear “1000 horsepower Supra” or “1000 horsepower”
Take a shot every time he raises his eyebrows.
Take a shot every 1000th eye blink lol
Take a shot every time he shakes his head
I'm starting to think my colon and donut medias upload times are in sync
That was a whole year of Engineering metal processing processes in 20 mins😂🔥 that's so cool
Thanks for such a detailed yet simple to understand video, really helped me understand how, and why everything that was done works. Absolutely love this sort of content
I feel like I’m the only person on earth who actually likes the mark 5 supra
The only think that makes mark 5 supra had smaller amount of fans is because it is not actually a toyota
So do I.
Me to
All the Mk IV supra fan boys don't like it because "It'S nOt A rEaL sUpRa"
Or: "It DoEsN't HaVe A 2JZ"
Or: "It'S a BmW z4"
Bro, u r not alone, we r with u.....
"relatively limited modification" the only thing stock on this engine is the block, head, and bearings.
And crank
@@ulicesalcantar1274 he changed the crankshaft, the time on the dyno when he said it can hold 1000hp but they need NOS thats why they need more reliable crankshaft than the stock one,
You’d pretty much have to do the same to a 2JZ to get 1000hp though
@@seanissomething you can get 6-700 hp with the STOCK forged internals in a 2jz
crankshaft, piston rings, head gasket, valves, camshaft
The fact you tought me more about engiens while staing so awake and how you make that 1000hp that are in that supra to stay and not to break because of the quallity of the build got me speachless
Loved this episode. I hope more bumper 2 bumpers are like this. Like a science garage and a bumper 2 bumper in one episode.
I feel like I’m in a zoom call while watching this that’s how much lv learned lol
Day 120 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
My man you are back
Was worried for you!!
Keep doing what you’re doing, I’m proud of you
The only thing his dad is 'Up to' is 'no good'!
The hero we needed but do not deserve.
You truly are a warrior
Steph is an absolute LEGEND and if you don't know him, you need to learn something. He's been innovating since basically forever. I have been following his experimenting with the new Supra engine so it was no surprise to see him hit 1000 HP first. I love how Steph doesn't play favorites and just gets to work in seeing what's possible. THAT is how you innovate.
Nice , I like how smoothe new host has gotten , very informative and engaging content through out run time.....👌💯
*_EVERYBODY GANGSTA TILL THE AWD CIVIC PULLS UP_*
*Frustrated EG has entered the chat*
@@h.a.4600 🤣
Or the 1000hp 20' supra spools its turbo
@@johnugabi7819 bruh if the vteck kicks in *_you are done_*
@@johnugabi7819 Frustrated EG is a tough customer, i don't think the Supra will beat it with ease.
"When your goal is to get a 1000 HP, how do you get there?"
Australian made Barra engine is where you start ;-) .
but sadly cannot fit in a Supra :(
Barra baby
Too bad the Chevy Amera Barra in the trailblazer did not get more love! Lots of potential, and a inline 6 is such a smooth running engine!
”Half of y’all watching this can’t even lift 135 pounds weak ass do some push ups” bro I’m extremely dead😂😂😂
Yeah, that bust me up.
I don’t even weigh 135 😂😂
@@Fellow_Cheese Bro eat something
angry 12 yr olds be like:
*bRuH eVeRyOnE knOws tHe B58 sUcKs 2jz gUuD*
edit: I may have started a war in the comments
edit 2: haha you thought it was omg thanks for the likes, but no it’s the man behind the slaughter
12yrs don't know what a supra is......... you mean people around the supra craze. The 2jz is a strong engine an it's still crazy by today's standards, it's like the ls a 20-30yr engine still used today. The issue is bmw is not know for reliability an Toyota an Lexus are know for reliability.
J.J. H the only thing good thing about the 2jz is it's stock tuning potential. Nothing special about it other than that. Does it have such crazy technology as the modern once? No. Does it have a gas milage as good as the modern engine? No. 2jz is so overrated
@@BraveNewwor1d BMW has an incredibly good track record of reliable engines... I'm not sure where you get your information but if you look at reliability by manufacture BMW is incredibly high up the list.
@@worlow1841 no one cares about mileage in this case and more complecsed tech means less reliability and more issues and b58 is way overrrated than 2j cuz it makes 1k hp and people are looking at it like its been never done before by any engine or company
@@TurboVisBits those lists are done by reports from consumers which arent always honest one of the most reliable car in the world is land cruiser of any gen
Day 255 of waiting for James to do an up to speed on his dad.
Ahmad Hassan it’s ok...
Patients, it will happen
Almost to a year man, maybe one day.
Been seeing you since day 108, I’m suprised they STILL have not done it
I wonder if James has seen this comment.... JAMES!!! Make this a 4Mil sub special!!!!
Normal People: swapping new engines in to old cars
Supra guys: swapping old 2jz in new Supra
he didn't swap the old engine in...
I love how the word “Supra” in the title just got me to watch a 27 minute video about engine and engine part resilience.
"Mad scientist" it's so cool sunuvabich
@Barno -El psy congrii-
Get's arrested
this video has so much car knowledge stuffed into it , you guys did an amazing job on this one. Thank you so much for putting out quality content.
Who else has been following this build on Stephen's channel? It's so cool 🔥
@ yes. I didnt like the new supra engine but ever since his build started it really changed my mind
I hope they bring more of this type of content back where they really get into engineering details. The videos Jeremiah does are usually the best
"It's stock, all the important bits are custom forged but that's not important"
I understand why people say it the way they do, but wouldn't stock block and bearings be more descriptive?
Pistons, rods, intake manifold, turbo. Not that bad when you think about it
IMO as soon as you start swapping internals it no longer holds the title of stock engine
@@Grooove_e Exactly. We've seen over 1500whp on my 2JZ setup.. its on stock block with upgraded internals, but I would never call it "stock engine".
@@I_dont_read_responses exactly, on the other hand is my Bugeye WRX with literally just an intake and custom exhaust with a little bit of a tune and a stage 2 clutch. Making roughly 260whp horsepower just waiting on my actually stock engine and/or stock 5 speed with 140k miles to blow up
Steph Papadakis: we just made the first 1000hp 2020 Supra!
James Pumphrey: Moar Powah baby🔥 Lightning lightning lightning 🌩
am i the only one who wants an episode on the bike in the background
I think they already got that
@@docpatzkie1971 those arent the ducati v4
I didnt even notice the bike. I just saw massive eye glare all the time.
I would rather know about the bike than some unreliable BMW called a reliable Toyota
I think its Honda
I am a first year motorsport engineering student and you just perfectly explained my whole first semester hahah. Generally, I adore Donut Media because you guys explain everything in details and it's always interesting to watch you
Stephan Papadakis...more proof there is a Greek behind every good thing
Panagiotis Kontaris except an economy
@@aleisaqui at least we are cultural enough not to make fun of countries with a destroyed economy, whose cause is its politicians
Panagiotis Kontaris that’s good but I’m not trying to be mean. Just poking fun
“Lasers fix everything”, please put this on a shirt
Hahaha
They should make a "Is That A Supra?" T-SHIRT
Brian Lingden with that guy who wipes his glasses