This is one of UG's best interviews. He looks calm and focused, delivering his genius insights one after another in a very clear and concise manner. The interviewer seems a bit lost but to his credit rarely interrupts UG in his line of thoughts. Pure Gold. A genius at his very best. Highly recomended. Thanks for uploading this gem.
@@javierchavez7584 thoughts have become more real than the real. It has become rigid, it has gained its momentum. It itself may dissolve once the singularity is achieved.
Yes, I found that interesting, compared to some of the verbal beatings he has done. Sometimes, it seems as if U.G.s demeanor has some reflection or mirroring to it. Mishlove was calm, peaceful and inquisitive. He listened first, then asked questions or responded.
Thank you Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove for this great interview! Very rare to find an interviewer who rarely interrupts the guest speaker and allows them to fully speak 👍
In this spiritual marketplace as UG calls it with all the holy ideas and romantic idealisation-bullshit what a relief it is to listen to this extraordinary man. Someone who had nothing to sell, who refused to be a teacher or offer any concept of "how to live" a better life. Just bringing across what he found out for himself and by himself. He ruined almost every hope and believe I had and I´m grateful for that.
UG thank you so much on the clarification of existence, yourself and Alan Watts have been a significant guide stone.... Much love my cosmic friends and much gratitude in this life time....
From what I understand, the problem that we all want to solve cannot be solved through thinking (intellect) by putting it in a mental framework, and it is the constant demand to solve that deep rooted problem that makes our lives so miserable and desperate. Once the demand goes, reliance shifts to the Body (our true and only existence) - we are indeed just biological beings. Once that dawns upon an individual experientially, he sees the fallacy of Problems and the real place of his intellect (Thoughts). Its like saying once you understand the nature of fire, you just stop using it to douse fire.
the demand or wanting/thinking is creating thoughts and its interest lies only in its continuity but projects itself as an instrument (only instrument we have) in solving our wants/problems. But what creates the problem is the solution/wants that we have in the first place. Even a slightest control of it is a want and there it establishes its continuum. The moment we say it given momentum to continue.
Thought by itself is in contradiction. therefore breeds conflict. But all our achievements physical and otherwise have been because of thought resulting in building strong faith and pride in our thought leading to we becoming incapable without it. yet the very contradiction in its existence can never by completely hidden. And we try to solve it using thought again.
Sandeep, you should note that we are NOT mere biological beings - this idea of being biological is THE contradiction to our very nature as postulated by the Master. By the word 'body' he refers to one continuum of the expression of Nature.
43:08 "It sounds like we're trapped.." that is because we, as a human species, are trapped. Whatever created all of this designed it for us to only experience it; that's it! People say it's so that we can "grow" or "evolve" but it seems more realistic to just say we don't know...
Just listening to UG is amazing. Been through many products in the spiritual supermarket and none really stuck on for more than six months. Finally stumbled upon UG, and may be this is a final stop. I'm really curious as what the gurus such as shri shri Ji or Sadguru Ji make of UG. UG said, If spirituality, meditational methods, silent mind etc was of any affect, it would have solved the problems of the East by now. Instead it has only turned out to be a dependable successful export product of the east and as long as there is a demand, it will continue to flourish.Thanks for this fascinating video.
UG too is a parellel visionary who delved deep into human consciousness and concluded its absurdity as well. He too sometimes looks a caricature of himself and sometimes a regale, pristine, sumlime flow of divinity, devastatingly pure, Unaffordably listenable
ug was right about us idling in despair as machines, but concerning the destruction we might have needed to prepare for attack. but he also said we cant, we have to let it express itself because we are the fear, we are the nature so we cannot control anything once we are burned up, we simply go, even if the thought says we don't want to go.
Interesting, deep and serious talk on youtube for once ! One benefit I got from this, is that it made me realize the very complex game/process going on every single minute in that being I use to call « I ». Nowadays Neuroscience is proving some of his points were right. Thanks for sharing it
Following UG is a dangerous thing. If you follow him you enter a one way street where at the end there´s no solution, no hope, no concept left. But very likely there will still be an I that has to cope with this situation. That´s where the real adventure begins.
I think there nothing to worry if you come to UG through like Osho, JK, Nisarga etc and Life is already as it is before because passed through much, UG is only for Real blasters, there is nothing like normal or some abnormal life, no-way out, there is no model, the "demand" for ....is not there.....
U.G. makes a good point. Be clear as to what self really is. Its not some grand awareness or spirit or whatever. Feelings, memory, senses, and thought. And what is thought? Language and symbols and concepts, and where did these come from? From everyone else of course. And with the thought came the label system of good, bad, right and wrong. And we were told what was good and bad. Yet for some reason we really think we have choice. Alot of people have this idea that there is a me that is aware of all these things, but what is saying this? The thought. Awareness is a concept and only a concept, it is actually the false center which many fools think is the true self. It seems from the idea of a human body seeing the world, further projection has been added to oneself. We think first this human body is aware of the world and then we project there is an awareness or a soul which is aware of thought. All there is to thought is thought.
@Icy_cool Well I'm not dismissing that there's not awareness minus thought. I'm discrediting the idea that there's awareness separate from thought. In short I'm against the idea of there being a thing called awareness separate from everything living in a bag of skin. The body itself is awareness, thought itself is awareness. In short, it's ALL mind.
@Icy_cool I just thought of a clearer way to desribe what im saying. Awareness is like a mosaic, its held together by parts, and there is no mosaic if there are no parts, the parts themselves ARE the mosaic. The parts being thought, feelings, and all our sense perceptions. If the parts are gone, the awareness is gone, it happens every night when we sleep or under anesthesia.
@Icy_cool The feeling is that we are looking through the eyes but I feel that may be an illusion. We now know thanks to science that we don't look through our eyes in this way, but rather light hits the optical nerve then the brain turns it into what we actually see. So I honestly can't say where the "I" is located, in fact I see myself as the Mosaic itself, not separate from the parts. The normal sense is that I have thoughts feelings and perceptions but for me it seems that I AM those senses.
@Icy_cool Lol well I dont think we need thoughts to have feelings but we do need them to know feelings, but then we give value or try to get rid of certain ones. I think everything we have as humans served some sort of purpose for survival in the past through natural selection, and the problems arise when we try to reject aspects of ourselves and hold other parts more important. All U.G. had to go off of was his own perceptions, as do I, and as does anyone else. I like the idea of being lights onto ourselves and coming up with our own "metaphysics", I just so happen to agree with U.G. about many things I've noticed myself. I mainly like U.G. cause he cuts alot of the bullshit out of it.
@@paul49045 UG is far too inconsistent and even a bit psychotic to come close to those systems. The via negativa aspect of any traditional approach in that regard is superior to UG, even that of christian orthodoxy or Meister Eckhart. However, the aliveness and forcefulness of his negation makes it into something special insofar as it hasn't gone through some kind of thought police to be an irrefutable "system", but that is mostly lost on us today who have no chance to sit with him. Even in that regard, though, certain phases of the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj are better. Your claim sounds a bit as if you haven't gotten around much. I am not exactly a fan of Jim Newman and his style is very different, but extremes of negation flourish everywhere.
@@paul49045 _"why do you say he's psychotic?"_ You mean _"...he was ..."_ . Well, all I said was: _"even _*_a bit_*_ psychotic"_ and by that I meant the degree and forcefulness with which he was "inconsistent" and incoherent. I think that most of what he said was _literally_ as he himself said, rewinding what had been put into his mind before what he called the calamity "like a broken record". It often didn't make too much sense and contradicted what he said elsewhere. I concur with the reasons you have an interest in UG, except in my case the fascination ended a number of years ago. I think his mind wasn't integrated very well with the explosion and his expression was accordingly. I don't want to get into the discussion you asked about, I mentioned these other cases of via negativa only as examples for why I don't quite agree with your statement: _"The only tradition that comes close to his "philosophy" would be the Sunyavada philosophy of Nagarjuna or the Ajatavada of Gaudapada."_ Nisargadatta Maharaj was quite traditional even though independent. His guru Sri Siddharameshwar Maharaj was in the Navnath Sampradaya. That Nath tradition is more tantric and Shaiva rather than intellectual as the tradition(s) you mentiond. You might even suspect its origins could be shaman in the original non-indogermanic population of India. So this is just one counter-example, but there are plenty.
@@TheSoteriologist Why do you think the Hindu non dual systems are more Tantric and more "Shaman" ,in the sense that it focuses a lot on magical techniques like chants,symbols ,deities etc. as opposed to a more intellectual approach of Dzogchen and Zen? I've noticed that Hindu mystics give more importance to the physical body (and energy body) since they have developed systems like yoga and focus on "kundalini". Some Jnana yogis reject metaphysical concepts like Kundalini altogether but do you think it is real and concrete and what is its importance? I try my best to approach these things from a logical point of view but I think the supernatural element comes into play because of these yogis attaining powers that are demonstrated to even non believers. So where do we draw the line between a "head oriented" approach and a more "energy oriented" approach ? The Shaivas ,naths etc. believe in an Ultimate Shiva being (identical to Brahman of Vedanta) but the difference is practical and technical...the Shaivas believe in worshipping a form of Shiva and "merging" with it/him through Alchemical processes which also have "physical" consequences. The Jnana yogis don't give much importance to alchemy and magic or such types of "purification". Purification for the Jnani is purely mental. Not astral or energetic. Another thing I wanted to add is about yoga sutras of Patanjali and how he focuses on Siddhis more than Samadhi and even Kaivalya. Similar to the Siddha tradition of Tamilnadu.
Never noticed the pun in the name of this show until U.G said it... "Thinking allowed or silently brings into the picture a very fundamental question..." lol :)
Well here we go another authority, so I'm not alone I believe I'm authority n all things that haven't even occurred yet What if it's either about love or fear what if we're here to help others.. there are 12 step programs that claim our very lifes depends on our kindness and thought toward others. But I did subscribe.perhaps I am addicted to drama, authoritiesism.. So whoever is reading this I hope something good happens to you today.
It is good to know what UG is trying to expose here ... it is quite unique, and his ideas often fall like grenades in the brain ... it won't harm to listen and learn from what he has to say ... my question is, can all of us afford to live according to UG's philosophy? I bet we can't ... UG never had to work for a living (which I envy) and lived in his own private Idaho ... but, definitely, he forces you to ponder about things you never thought about ... I miss the crazy old man ...
@Abhinav Menon : saying that "no such ting" is , is a useless statement. How can we talk of somting NoNexistink ? You're still using a positive approach (is) to say that it isn't ! Perfectly USELESS my dear .•°
out of suffering ,of not knowing and fear separating happens ,when you live in peace and love ,happiness,and so on ,then you can fly and be free ,but look at the life we need harmony lets have hope and try it .
Oh come on now. You love to suffer, your thoughts just rattle around in your head and say otherwise. You want to end suffering? Here's a suggestion, try embracing it.
All of us 'nobody's' should meet up somewhere... talk about the impact UG's words had on our lives...don't know if there is anything better we could do.
Do we know if UG and Alan Watts met in real life or if they talked ablut each other at least? At 17:40 what he says, Einstein said the same thing I believe "we cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them". In general, many of the things he says are similar to what Alan Watts said about life and nature or Terence McKenna about language's limitations and experience. Although I enjoyed listening the last 2 guys even saying the same things, UG stresses me out and I still haven't understood why. Much respect though, a wise guy.
I totaly agee at 56 mins I did the same thing my cultural religion is Christianity and explored all branches and applied the teachings and such and nothing and here I am listening to some stranger saying what I think about this stuff
^ can you elaborate please? I'm gathering or reading all sorts of spiritual biographies. I think our beliefs may differ since I'm still Christian but I'd be happy to read your testimony.
.....Tremendous...the most terminal-terminalist opposite the most terminal-optimist ....notice JMishlove is the person UG has most respect for... a grand match of paradox
Launch of the book "The Synesthetic Art of Contemplation" (on Amazon) in which U.G. Krishnamurti, Actual Freedom and other themes related to the human condition are unveiled under a new vision, that of Synesthetic Contemplation, and under a new approach, that of the Scientific Rational Method. This book deals with little-known aspects of U.G. and the phenomena of "Anastasis" and synesthesia that he went through. Learn more at the bilingual blog www.academiaimoto.com/livro-arte-sinestesica-contemplacao
39:34 So I think I am, then I asked myself this question at a time when I was not thinking about anything: do I exist now? The veil of the mental conviction that I exist has fallen.
My respect to everyone who listen to this man and don’t reject his ideas before giving them a second thought. Try Tony de Mello as well his discourses are not bandaids but the cure to the “problem” in my opinion
UG denying all that is about scriptures , Gods and Godman , saints or incarnations , rebirth, religion, spirituality, meditation and enlightenment is extremely thought provoking after having seen few videos of his interviews. Even his take on Love , Empathy and charity is nothing but self satisfaction to fill the voids in us. The unique & advanced Self awareness in human beings is taking us to destructive path instead uniting with nature . We have become worse than animals as our greed has been increased day by day. Even the so called enlightened souls instead making people aware of true nature of human beings are making business out them. UG is furious because , he cannot change the world alone even though world is heading for destruction and there is no God to save except ourselves. Some enlightened (compassionate beings) are doing good societal work that may not bring urgently needed changes world needs today.
Funny thing about U G is he was allowed by to experience this particular stage of awareness through perception and “experience “ by the mind. Once you manifest your total mind you gain your other half of mind. He is absolutely accurate in the description of the mind being a reactor. However I Can easy prove him wrong that the brain is only that “reactor “ having manifested a greater degree of perception within my own mind. You have to understand that the entire world is your perception. All is mental. I will leave it at that.
OFTENTIMES, DO YOU WONDER WHAT THE HELL MATRIX or the so-called Maya.. Samsara.. IS ALL ABOUT.?? As what water is for fishes, likewise, the Time & Space or the Matrix is for the entire humanity. It's the platform of your everyday life. It's no wonder, if the Matrix, appears to be like an everlasting prison for you. Which appears to be quite impossible for you to breakthrough. In addition, since from the beginning, into which, the entire humanity unknowingly is getting self-imprisoned. In case even if you try to get out of it, certainly you're going to die. However, please remember that, the Matrix is but mere invisible prison like & it doesn't have any kinds of big concrete solid walls. Well your lifelong imprisonment into that horrible Matrix, is only because of your own blind-beliefs on your own self-induced thought-structures or thy emotionally & mentally self-induced illusions about the Time & Space. Moreover, that's nothing else but your self-conceptualized, fictional, fake, unrealistic & self-limiting reality, that of your own self-personified Mind. Well, In order to breakthrough from that emotional & mental self-imprisonment of the Matrix of the Time-O-Space, you need to wake-up in order to Self-Realize the fact that, the so-called: Time & Space, are but, one & the same. In addition they also are quite indivisibe & it's quite impossible for your Mind, to spartate Time & Space from one another. Time & Space are just like South & North poles, two extreme ends of the same Magnetic field. For without dividing, conceptualizing & projecting the time-O-space as the two different aspects of your everyday life, it's but impossible for your unaware Mind to live, to perceive or to experience your everyday Life as if it's the one & the only physical-reality & anything beyond Matrix of time-O-space is but beyond the understanding capabilities of your everyday self-limiting.. Unaware-Mindset.
Most of us think a blind person see only darkness and nothing but darkness. But the fact is a blind person will not even know what ‘seeing’ is. So for a blind person there is no darkness as well. That is all.
After the origin of human on earth, This Interview is the Total Cleaning of all the Garbage. I hope, if People on earth understands it properly and follow the Instructions the There will be NO Problem ! I am very much thankful to UG clearing my 35 years of Garbage stuck in my neurons but UG is Unique Cleaning Master of Garbage ! ( seen this bunch of interview many times )
It is the need to define everything and understand everything that is separating us from everything we so want to define and understand. UG is the destroyer of many myth!
This gentleman outsmarts JK, Osho and the fellows of sort. "Fortunately" or unfortunately he did not promote himself as the other buggers did. That makes him more unique and special. One who does "consider' him will definitely know it.
This is one of UG's best interviews. He looks calm and focused, delivering his genius insights one after another in a very clear and concise manner. The interviewer seems a bit lost but to his credit rarely interrupts UG in his line of thoughts. Pure Gold. A genius at his very best. Highly recomended. Thanks for uploading this gem.
exactly
Love this summary lol.
I concur that this is one of his best.
I find him so interesting in his thoughts and understanding! ❤😊❤
Thoughts don't matter. Why should his thoughts matter then
Man's tragedy = His separation from nature. Thank you for posting this.
Very clearly put!
+ unacceptance of death, pain, demand for permanent pleasure,joy, bliss
@@nagendrakumarcr or maybe is the misunderstanding of thought. Will anything exist without thought?
@@javierchavez7584 thoughts have become more real than the real. It has become rigid, it has gained its momentum. It itself may dissolve once the singularity is achieved.
I think UG is saying that man is nature, not separate! @Joe Pineapples
This is probably the greatest interview on UA-cam.
Nah they could have stopped at "there is no problem".
I was searching since my childhood. But this genius stopped my searching.
The host handled it quite well
Yes!
finally a host that is able to talk to ug without being completely berated
uzumakiram3n absolutely
Yes, I found that interesting, compared to some of the verbal beatings he has done. Sometimes, it seems as if U.G.s demeanor has some reflection or mirroring to it. Mishlove was calm, peaceful and inquisitive. He listened first, then asked questions or responded.
He’s on TV
Yes and they all deserve the beratement
The mike tyson of enlightenment 🙏✨👊
Brian Bak pretty much
What a comment! Well put!
Lol
Funny way to put it. He is a knockout
Neil deGrasse Tyson is a good-behavior man , cosmologist . Boxing is terrible bad . Jiddu Krishnamurti is also good .
Thank you Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove for this great interview! Very rare to find an interviewer who rarely interrupts the guest speaker and allows them to fully speak 👍
PURE GOLD ......Thanx for the upload
In this spiritual marketplace as UG calls it with all the holy ideas and romantic idealisation-bullshit what a relief it is to listen to this extraordinary man. Someone who had nothing to sell, who refused to be a teacher or offer any concept of "how to live" a better life. Just bringing across what he found out for himself and by himself. He ruined almost every hope and believe I had and I´m grateful for that.
Honey he didn't find anything on his own lol everything was based on rejection of theosophy.
@@jjbentley9 theosophy had no influence on him. theosophy is dumb
@@Vril927 you're dumb
@@Vril927 abd yeah he literally grew up with theosophy dumb bell
What an extraordinary mind. There will never be anyone like him again.
At 69 he is responsible for me becoming Invincible.
UG thank you so much on the clarification of existence, yourself and Alan Watts have been a significant guide stone.... Much love my cosmic friends and much gratitude in this life time....
Good luck finding anything of such quality on TV these days.
Incredible. Just listening to him makes me uncomfortable. I feel sooo stupid now lool. Thank you UG
I like that the interviewer got UG to clarify his points.
U.G. Krishnamurti No Thinking Allowed
lool
love it! Stop Making Sense
May I be excused? My brain is full.😮😅
From what I understand, the problem that we all want to solve cannot be solved through thinking (intellect) by putting it in a mental framework, and it is the constant demand to solve that deep rooted problem that makes our lives so miserable and desperate. Once the demand goes, reliance shifts to the Body (our true and only existence) - we are indeed just biological beings. Once that dawns upon an individual experientially, he sees the fallacy of Problems and the real place of his intellect (Thoughts). Its like saying once you understand the nature of fire, you just stop using it to douse fire.
the demand or wanting/thinking is creating thoughts and its interest lies only in its continuity but projects itself as an instrument (only instrument we have) in solving our wants/problems. But what creates the problem is the solution/wants that we have in the first place. Even a slightest control of it is a want and there it establishes its continuum. The moment we say it given momentum to continue.
Well said brother, much love to all who read this...
@@sudarshanseshadri2144 🙏
Thought by itself is in contradiction. therefore breeds conflict. But all our achievements physical and otherwise have been because of thought resulting in building strong faith and pride in our thought leading to we becoming incapable without it. yet the very contradiction in its existence can never by completely hidden. And we try to solve it using thought again.
Sandeep, you should note that we are NOT mere biological beings - this idea of being biological is THE contradiction to our very nature as postulated by the Master. By the word 'body' he refers to one continuum of the expression of Nature.
The realest human I ever listen to. Without thought there is no separation or division.there is only totality ,but for who.
an erudite and honest story of daily life as it is, honed by the seeming experience of not knowing ....Wonderful, thank you !
Τι συνέντευξη χειρουργείο είναι αυτή.. την έψαχνα αρκετά χρόνια ολόκληρη!! Thanx Man!!!
Best stuff to listen before fallin to sleep
also good for waking up from a dream of mankind.
So glad they took this video!
You gotta listen closely but UG is very clear once you get the hang of his presentation.
43:08 "It sounds like we're trapped.." that is because we, as a human species, are trapped. Whatever created all of this designed it for us to only experience it; that's it!
People say it's so that we can "grow" or "evolve" but it seems more realistic to just say we don't know...
Thanks for the upload! Good stuff !
The end of this video is gold
Sri Ramana Maharshi " who am I"
Sri Nisargadatta "I am that"
U.G Krishnamurti "I am not"
that's when you realize, you are not that fucked up, and your life is quiet ok.
JimNewman "simply this"
Who am I was his rise, not his message to the world.
THINKING ALLOWED? here comes UG
haha
Just sounds coming out. Nothing happening at all. Getting nowhere is arriving. It ends where it begins.
Thanks for posting this video! Muchos Gracias!
if i heard this the game is over .... loveing ug
Many (many) thanks!
Just listening to UG is amazing. Been through many products in the spiritual supermarket and none really stuck on for more than six months. Finally stumbled upon UG, and may be this is a final stop. I'm really curious as what the gurus such as shri shri Ji or Sadguru Ji make of UG. UG said, If spirituality, meditational methods, silent mind etc was of any affect, it would have solved the problems of the East by now. Instead it has only turned out to be a dependable successful export product of the east and as long as there is a demand, it will continue to flourish.Thanks for this fascinating video.
They all probably hate him and will never debate him because he will render them speechless 😶
Two years later... was it the final stop?
If you DEPEND on somebody you're going to be corrupted
I finally understand what he is saying! 🤗
Thankyou to post this ! Merci beaucoup ! Muchas gracias! Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful
PRABHA CALDERON of course
Could you send me your photo? I don not get who are you Shyamraj. I'd like to get in contact with you. prabha.calderon@orange.com
The host lacks perspective, but handles it quite open mindedly. I admire him for that.
UG too is a parellel visionary who delved deep into human consciousness and concluded its absurdity as well. He too sometimes looks a caricature of himself and sometimes a regale, pristine, sumlime flow of divinity, devastatingly pure, Unaffordably listenable
ug was right about us idling in despair as machines, but concerning the destruction we might have needed to prepare for attack. but he also said we cant, we have to let it express itself because we are the fear, we are the nature so we cannot control anything once we are burned up, we simply go, even if the thought says we don't want to go.
Best interviewer👍 best interviewee wealth of ideas and somewhat close to the ultimate truth 🍷
jeffrey mishlove: "Welcome, UG"
UG Krishnamurti: "thank you"
jeffrey mishlove: "it's a pleasure to be with you"
UG Krishnamurti:
wtfellification It's called narcissism. Oh wait, thats a though so it doesn't matter.
İntelligence
UG is always thinking
Interesting, deep and serious talk on youtube for once !
One benefit I got from this, is that it made me realize the very complex game/process going on every single minute in that being I use to call « I ».
Nowadays Neuroscience is proving some of his points were right.
Thanks for sharing it
If anyone says they have understood u.g. they have not understand at all because there's nothing to understand.
Thank you thank you thank you journey souls lessons thank you gifted souls much love
Following UG is a dangerous thing. If you follow him you enter a one way street where at the end there´s no solution, no hope, no concept left. But very likely there will still be an I that has to cope with this situation. That´s where the real adventure begins.
Yep you got that right. Stay away if you want a normal life
It is true i felt it.. who can tlak to me about this stuff?
@@boiyrv8544 can a dog talk to another dog? What would two dogs understand if they bark at each other hahah
I think there nothing to worry if you come to UG through like Osho, JK, Nisarga etc and Life is already as it is before because passed through much, UG is only for Real blasters, there is nothing like normal or some abnormal life, no-way out, there is no model, the "demand" for ....is not there.....
It's not .. What UG says is. . Similar to what Ashtavakra Gita says in Hinduism..
Krishnamurti's hair is on fleek though
blacksheep haha
He should shave his headhair very short .
Really queen
U.G. makes a good point. Be clear as to what self really is. Its not some grand awareness or spirit or whatever. Feelings, memory, senses, and thought. And what is thought? Language and symbols and concepts, and where did these come from? From everyone else of course. And with the thought came the label system of good, bad, right and wrong. And we were told what was good and bad. Yet for some reason we really think we have choice. Alot of people have this idea that there is a me that is aware of all these things, but what is saying this? The thought. Awareness is a concept and only a concept, it is actually the false center which many fools think is the true self. It seems from the idea of a human body seeing the world, further projection has been added to oneself. We think first this human body is aware of the world and then we project there is an awareness or a soul which is aware of thought. All there is to thought is thought.
@Icy_cool Well I'm not dismissing that there's not awareness minus thought. I'm discrediting the idea that there's awareness separate from thought. In short I'm against the idea of there being a thing called awareness separate from everything living in a bag of skin. The body itself is awareness, thought itself is awareness. In short, it's ALL mind.
@Icy_cool I just thought of a clearer way to desribe what im saying. Awareness is like a mosaic, its held together by parts, and there is no mosaic if there are no parts, the parts themselves ARE the mosaic. The parts being thought, feelings, and all our sense perceptions. If the parts are gone, the awareness is gone, it happens every night when we sleep or under anesthesia.
@Icy_cool The feeling is that we are looking through the eyes but I feel that may be an illusion. We now know thanks to science that we don't look through our eyes in this way, but rather light hits the optical nerve then the brain turns it into what we actually see. So I honestly can't say where the "I" is located, in fact I see myself as the Mosaic itself, not separate from the parts. The normal sense is that I have thoughts feelings and perceptions but for me it seems that I AM those senses.
@Icy_cool Lol well I dont think we need thoughts to have feelings but we do need them to know feelings, but then we give value or try to get rid of certain ones. I think everything we have as humans served some sort of purpose for survival in the past through natural selection, and the problems arise when we try to reject aspects of ourselves and hold other parts more important. All U.G. had to go off of was his own perceptions, as do I, and as does anyone else. I like the idea of being lights onto ourselves and coming up with our own "metaphysics", I just so happen to agree with U.G. about many things I've noticed myself. I mainly like U.G. cause he cuts alot of the bullshit out of it.
It strikes me just how traditional it is what he says :)
@@paul49045 UG is far too inconsistent and even a bit psychotic to come close to those systems. The via negativa aspect of any traditional approach in that regard is superior to UG, even that of christian orthodoxy or Meister Eckhart. However, the aliveness and forcefulness of his negation makes it into something special insofar as it hasn't gone through some kind of thought police to be an irrefutable "system", but that is mostly lost on us today who have no chance to sit with him. Even in that regard, though, certain phases of the teachings of Nisargadatta Maharaj are better. Your claim sounds a bit as if you haven't gotten around much. I am not exactly a fan of Jim Newman and his style is very different, but extremes of negation flourish everywhere.
@@paul49045 _"why do you say he's psychotic?"_
You mean _"...he was ..."_ . Well, all I said was:
_"even _*_a bit_*_ psychotic"_
and by that I meant the degree and forcefulness with which he was "inconsistent" and incoherent. I think that most of what he said was _literally_ as he himself said, rewinding what had been put into his mind before what he called the calamity "like a broken record". It often didn't make too much sense and contradicted what he said elsewhere.
I concur with the reasons you have an interest in UG, except in my case the fascination ended a number of years ago. I think his mind wasn't integrated very well with the explosion and his expression was accordingly.
I don't want to get into the discussion you asked about, I mentioned these other cases of via negativa only as examples for why I don't quite agree with your statement:
_"The only tradition that comes close to his "philosophy" would be the Sunyavada philosophy of Nagarjuna or the Ajatavada of Gaudapada."_
Nisargadatta Maharaj was quite traditional even though independent. His guru Sri Siddharameshwar Maharaj was in the Navnath Sampradaya. That Nath tradition is more tantric and Shaiva rather than intellectual as the tradition(s) you mentiond. You might even suspect its origins could be shaman in the original non-indogermanic population of India. So this is just one counter-example, but there are plenty.
@@TheSoteriologist Why do you think the Hindu non dual systems are more Tantric and more "Shaman" ,in the sense that it focuses a lot on magical techniques like chants,symbols ,deities etc. as opposed to a more intellectual approach of Dzogchen and Zen? I've noticed that Hindu mystics give more importance to the physical body (and energy body) since they have developed systems like yoga and focus on "kundalini". Some Jnana yogis reject metaphysical concepts like Kundalini altogether but do you think it is real and concrete and what is its importance?
I try my best to approach these things from a logical point of view but I think the supernatural element comes into play because of these yogis attaining powers that are demonstrated to even non believers.
So where do we draw the line between a "head oriented" approach and a more "energy oriented" approach ?
The Shaivas ,naths etc. believe in an Ultimate Shiva being (identical to Brahman of Vedanta) but the difference is practical and technical...the Shaivas believe in worshipping a form of Shiva and "merging" with it/him through Alchemical processes which also have "physical" consequences. The Jnana yogis don't give much importance to alchemy and magic or such types of "purification". Purification for the Jnani is purely mental. Not astral or energetic.
Another thing I wanted to add is about yoga sutras of Patanjali and how he focuses on Siddhis more than Samadhi and even Kaivalya. Similar to the Siddha tradition of Tamilnadu.
Never noticed the pun in the name of this show until U.G said it... "Thinking allowed or silently brings into the picture a very fundamental question..." lol :)
Well here we go another authority, so I'm not alone I believe I'm authority n all things that haven't even occurred yet What if it's either about love or fear what if we're here to help others.. there are 12 step programs that claim our very lifes depends on our kindness and thought toward others.
But I did subscribe.perhaps I am addicted to drama, authoritiesism.. So whoever is reading this I hope something good happens to you today.
What a lovely host.
It is good to know what UG is trying to expose here ... it is quite unique, and his ideas often fall like grenades in the brain ... it won't harm to listen and learn from what he has to say ... my question is, can all of us afford to live according to UG's philosophy? I bet we can't ... UG never had to work for a living (which I envy) and lived in his own private Idaho ... but, definitely, he forces you to ponder about things you never thought about ... I miss the crazy old man ...
I would not be surprised if the number were we’ll over a billion people that do not “work” to “live”.
Awesome
SUPREMELY EXPLAINED ....🙏
Thought takes energy, that energy comes from eating. The body is not separate from the mind.
That's not true at all
That means a fool
Where does eating (or want for) as the food comes from?
Extraordinary!!!
UG is the final station before no-thingness!
@Abhinav Menon : there is no such ting as "no such ting" ☝️
hehe .•°
@Abhinav Menon : saying that "no such ting" is , is a useless statement.
How can we talk of somting NoNexistink ?
You're still using a positive approach (is) to say that it isn't !
Perfectly USELESS my dear .•°
@Abhinav Menon : 🤔hmmm , me never thought of such easy solution .
Me will practice that from bla now bla on bla wtf bla bla bla 🖐️😁 .•°
@@farrider3339 "Be careful" of the "Looney Tunes"! xD
@@Variedmultipl i have'em daily on the news channel .
My ears are singjng their own song .
Unique
Unparalleled
You may not like what I'm saying°
On another level. Tremendous. Ultimatum. Pure.
Bare truth from a bold man!
Awesomeness 👍💕
“Bold” ? Not sure he would agree.
One of my favorite UG videos!
Great stufff!!
I enjoy the Interviewerer's understanding...he is very ensightFUL!😎
he killled me
me too....dead....
lalu pato Dead man walking!
And you still alive!
Amazing
What enlighment? Bob help me.......
out of suffering ,of not knowing and fear separating happens ,when you live in peace and love ,happiness,and so on ,then you can fly and be free ,but look at the life we need harmony lets have hope and try it .
Good point .
Oh come on now. You love to suffer, your thoughts just rattle around in your head and say otherwise. You want to end suffering? Here's a suggestion, try embracing it.
UG is a river of thoughts and they flow on and on.
Thankyou Dr Mishlove. Would like to know what year this took place. I truly envy the people you have met along the way.
alguien podria traducir o poner el traductor en español? sería maravilloso!!
Gracias
All of us 'nobody's' should meet up somewhere... talk about the impact UG's words had on our lives...don't know if there is anything better we could do.
no
john doe sure if it's possible i also ll definitely join man
What is there to talk about?
@@Slozerosh HA ! you got it
Do we know if UG and Alan Watts met in real life or if they talked ablut each other at least? At 17:40 what he says, Einstein said the same thing I believe "we cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them". In general, many of the things he says are similar to what Alan Watts said about life and nature or Terence McKenna about language's limitations and experience. Although I enjoyed listening the last 2 guys even saying the same things, UG stresses me out and I still haven't understood why. Much respect though, a wise guy.
No, UG and Alan Watts never met. I believe Alan Watts son or daughter met UG much later after Alan's demise. Just for your info.
what is outside is unknown and unknowable. this outside sends a sensation in our mind pond and we come to know there is something outside.
he is right thought is all about thinking we are a body.
I totaly agee at 56 mins I did the same thing my cultural religion is Christianity and explored all branches and applied the teachings and such and nothing and here I am listening to some stranger saying what I think about this stuff
^ can you elaborate please? I'm gathering or reading all sorts of spiritual biographies. I think our beliefs may differ since I'm still Christian but I'd be happy to read your testimony.
.....Tremendous...the most terminal-terminalist opposite the most terminal-optimist
....notice JMishlove is the person UG has most respect for... a grand match of paradox
UG lays it down heavy at times and Jeff really wants to hold it. But it’s so dam slippery.
Self is trying to identify source of thought which created the self.Let it BE
01:12:20 Mishlove completely out of words...
Zero nonsense. Thank you so much.
Splain yourself!
So interesting...I keep listening..I'm under his spell?
Someone show this to Jordan Petersen.
The full outro is awesome epilogue
Launch of the book "The Synesthetic Art of Contemplation" (on Amazon) in which U.G. Krishnamurti, Actual Freedom and other themes related to the human condition are unveiled under a new vision, that of Synesthetic Contemplation, and under a new approach, that of the Scientific Rational Method.
This book deals with little-known aspects of U.G. and the phenomena of "Anastasis" and synesthesia that he went through.
Learn more at the bilingual blog www.academiaimoto.com/livro-arte-sinestesica-contemplacao
Hey Clive Barker reference - awesome.
We want UG to tell us how to live our lives - he does - early on, if we listen closely.
It's so powerful, when he talks about the "future generations" 1:31:20 - 1:32:56".
39:34
So I think I am, then I asked myself this question at a time when I was not thinking about anything: do I exist now? The veil of the mental conviction that I exist has fallen.
U G is cristal clear.....No confusion at all...💖🙏
U.G. reminds me of my Mother in her later years, little patience for mis-understanding, I Love them.
My respect to everyone who listen to this man and don’t reject his ideas before giving them a second thought. Try Tony de Mello as well his discourses are not bandaids but the cure to the “problem” in my opinion
He based his ideas of the rejection of theosophy.
eckhart tolle as well..while listning to him we sometimes feel the oneness
ug, u are genious
You really don't know , you don't wanna know and you will never know !
UG denying all that is about scriptures , Gods and Godman , saints or incarnations , rebirth, religion, spirituality, meditation and enlightenment is extremely thought provoking after having seen few videos of his interviews.
Even his take on Love , Empathy and charity is nothing but self satisfaction to fill the voids in us.
The unique & advanced Self awareness in human beings is taking us to destructive path instead uniting with nature . We have become worse than animals as our greed has been increased day by day.
Even the so called enlightened souls instead making people aware of true nature of human beings are making business out them.
UG is furious because , he cannot change the world alone even though world is heading for destruction and there is no God to save except ourselves.
Some enlightened (compassionate beings) are doing good societal work that may not bring urgently needed changes world needs today.
the real gangsta
Funny thing about U G is he was allowed by to experience this particular stage of awareness through perception and “experience “ by the mind. Once you manifest your total mind you gain your other half of mind. He is absolutely accurate in the description of the mind being a reactor. However I Can easy prove him wrong that the brain is only that “reactor “ having manifested a greater degree of perception within my own mind. You have to understand that the entire world is your perception. All is mental. I will leave it at that.
@@indreams22no mind ,no consciousness and no world
Is the interviewer related to Krist Novoselic? 😂
those who enjoy UG may really like listening to Ramesam Vemuri. I certainly do.
sir is the for every thing
OFTENTIMES, DO YOU WONDER WHAT THE HELL MATRIX or the so-called Maya.. Samsara.. IS ALL ABOUT.?? As what water is for fishes, likewise, the Time & Space or the Matrix is for the entire humanity. It's the platform of your everyday life. It's no wonder, if the Matrix, appears to be like an everlasting prison for you. Which appears to be quite impossible for you to breakthrough. In addition, since from the beginning, into which, the entire humanity unknowingly is getting self-imprisoned. In case even if you try to get out of it, certainly you're going to die. However, please remember that, the Matrix is but mere invisible prison like & it doesn't have any kinds of big concrete solid walls. Well your lifelong imprisonment into that horrible Matrix, is only because of your own blind-beliefs on your own self-induced thought-structures or thy emotionally & mentally self-induced illusions about the Time & Space. Moreover, that's nothing else but your self-conceptualized, fictional, fake, unrealistic & self-limiting reality, that of your own self-personified Mind. Well, In order to breakthrough from that emotional & mental self-imprisonment of the Matrix of the Time-O-Space, you need to wake-up in order to Self-Realize the fact that, the so-called: Time & Space, are but, one & the same. In addition they also are quite indivisibe & it's quite impossible for your Mind, to spartate Time & Space from one another. Time & Space are just like South & North poles, two extreme ends of the same Magnetic field. For without dividing, conceptualizing & projecting the time-O-space as the two different aspects of your everyday life, it's but impossible for your unaware Mind to live, to perceive or to experience your everyday Life as if it's the one & the only physical-reality & anything beyond Matrix of time-O-space is but beyond the understanding capabilities of your everyday self-limiting.. Unaware-Mindset.
Good
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Most of us think a blind person see only darkness and nothing but darkness. But the fact is a blind person will not even know what ‘seeing’ is. So for a blind person there is no darkness as well. That is all.
After the origin of human on earth, This Interview is the Total Cleaning of all the Garbage. I hope, if People on earth understands it properly and follow the Instructions the There will be NO Problem !
I am very much thankful to UG clearing my 35 years of Garbage stuck in my neurons but UG is Unique Cleaning Master of Garbage !
( seen this bunch of interview many times )
It is the need to define everything and understand everything that is separating us from everything we so want to define and understand. UG is the destroyer of many myth!
This gentleman outsmarts JK, Osho and the fellows of sort. "Fortunately" or unfortunately he did not promote himself as the other buggers did. That makes him more unique and special. One who does "consider' him will definitely know it.
y do u think? he outsmarts JK ??
right
Bravo!