UG Krishnamurti has helped me realize the illusions created by the mind. For example, the status quo of the world mind and its value systems are pure nonsense (egotistical) for the human body. This is why the human body suffers and gets sick because it is trying to get rid of the neurological defect which is thinking. The first time I heard UG I thought he was cynical or a fatalist or an antichrist, but I was dead wrong. The art of not thinking is not easy especially if you live in a culture of value systems. Culture is alive and everywhere in the globe right now in that case it's better to be just an observer. The idea of being in the now seems closer when I let go of the demand to free myself from anything. Thank you for posting and thank you UG K!
I have found that being in what is called “the now” is simply the phisical existance of the body. As there is no mind but only thoughts about thoughts, and as thoughts are only images , then these are not really here/ there/ anywhere. Just a mechanical function. Realising this non existance of thought you realise there is only the body. And so where else can you be but here…. Where you always are. That is not about time really but if you want to say “now” then where else can you or that which actually exists, exist, other than now. ( as far as the body is concerned) The religious notion of making some effort to be in the now is more budhist rubbish. Religion creats this non existent problem and then sells us way to remain now as a solution. But that solution keeps the illusionary problem of being where u always are anywsy, here/ now , a problem. But there is no way NOT to be here now because there is nowhere else to be. So we can all relax
The clearest exegesis of his ideas I have ever heard. It should be played to all the monks and students in all the ashrams, monasteries, shuls and madrassas on the planet. As the commenter below says - a modern day Ashtavakra.
To be yourself, you don't have to do anything. You don't have to exercise your will. But to be something other than what you are, you have to do lot of things.
Who ever doesn’t understand what U.G. Is saying isn’t trying to understand. They just want to be argumentative. We have to use words to communicate in order to function and perform tasks in our world. We can only experience things as things because we call them things. Without our words, we don’t know what we’re looking at, touching, tasting, feeling, thinking. Animals think but they don’t think like humans. Humans think in language, images, and we use our imagination and memories/thoughts to experience things. He’s using words to describe his state of being which is the same state every human body is already in not human thought. The human body. Eyes don’t see the word table in relation to an image we’ve memorized. The eyes see what they see. They don’t tell them selves “ I see a table”. Your organs function without one single conscious thought.
This recording is from the audio tapes called "Give Up" which were made by Henk Schoenfeld in Amsterdam around 1982. The book "The Courage to Stand Alone" was made from these tapes. I think it is one of the greatest conversations we have from UG. Because there is no copyright on UG's talks, recordings, or books -- we are so happy for this being on UA-cam, but it should be free of commercials -- ideally. Today is UG's birthday (7/9/1918).
@@fatfrreddy1414 I did that and it is great. But I still think that UG's talks should be free as he never charged or made a penny from them. But that's just my thing. Not important. I don't think he would care at all.
I don't know anything l am just a simple, down to earth person l call my husband who plays role as my provider and live under one roof who is my man or my husband After his death l just asked my widow pension Five years have gone I am still waiting for widow pension. Is this British social justice? This is social media manipulating They found agenda to keep going daily basis You are a dead person telling me doesn't matter my man dead or alive I want to know what happend to my man Krishna Murthy was my grand pa I know what he did to my grand mother Please someone is living above my roof Find out who is there.
The courage to stand on your two solid feet is something which cannot be given by somebody. If you are freed from the burden of the entire past of mankind, then what is there is the courage, not through the development of any courage you can free yourself from that burden.
UG took this approach of materialism philosophy and I tend to agree with him. But I would have liked to hear his opinion on mind-body disorders and the subjective experience of consciousness that haven’t been explained in materialism. If the mind (thought) is an illusion, how can the illusion be so strong that it causes this apparent physiological changes ?
Don’t the constant illusions weaken the organs and muscles. It’s like an electrical energy targeting the areas weakening us. Making us sick. That’s how I understood it. I could be wrong!
Object creates subject - Experience creates Self. When we experience any object that experience gets stored in memory cells. Response of memory in the form of thoughts explains the experience. One thought acts as Me / Self and it divides all thoughts as observer Me and his observation thoughts. This psychological division creates conflicts in all our psychological life. Without psychological Me and his psychological ideas, life becomes lonely and boring. So we indulge in relationship to get something out of it. Moment we stop getting anything from any relationship, we start hating same relationship. That's our life.
The realisation, that culture as enslaved us to our physcology, the game , the weird part is why , offcourse we have to act immediately, we all gonna die lets change while we still alive.
After listening to plenty of UG talks it occurred somehow that an entity isn't even possible an I isn't possible (its only available as a mirage or like a rainbow) even if you had alot of money and a cadre of engineers you couldn't do it.
I was trying to locate the video where he met with doctor's and asked for help with his heart problem. It appears it has been wiped from the internet..
@BPSchauhan Actually you are definitely wrong.. at the very end of his life he was having problems with his heart.. although he was never a heart patient he did have an irregular heart beat that he was concerned about. He consulted several doctors in this video and offered any one of them who could fix his problem a lot of money .. (I believe it was $300,000.00) but the doctors were not interested in his money and did nothing to help him. This video was since removed from the internet because it showed how human he really was. I personally think his heart palpitations may have been the result of him eating canned fruit for most of his life. He once said that fresh fruit was really not fresh anyway and that he preferred canned fruit. PBA in the can linings and other things like heavy syrup and high fructose corn syrup in canned fruit can be bad for the heart.
'we'?! what is that you call 'we'- well, you cannot go to 'we' if you are not first of all clear about 'I'. So, what is the 'I' that you think is a robot?
Sir, First of all, I thank you for existing and helping future generations. I had to say these words as you've uploaded a number of videos of UG and your students have interacted with some of them. Please be careful, as if influenced by UG, the student will become useless for society. You are surely aware that we justify our sins. Imagine the magnitude of harm that an unformed mind can cause if influenced by the lack of ethical and moral values professed by UG. Only interacting with you here as you are becoming a gateway to UG. I hope you will act as guru for them and not merely as a teacher. THANX FOR READING. best of luck for future.
I do not want to show UGs Audio or Video to students but my This channel is educational Channel. As a Teaching for Society - I upload these videos on this channel but i do not send notification to all the Students.
I think understanding is not mechanical. Otherwise we have to accept the process of memory as understanding mechanism. Understanding is a quality of attention. Complete attention must be understanding without direction and no center and is faster than thought identification. So, primarily I understand and later I try to explain with the help of thoughts and language. The process is slow and not representative as any sage observed.
Around 41:00 he talks about its not possible to watch our thoughts and every actions. I have great respect for Mr. UG. but at this point he is not completely correct there are ways and methods to exactly do this and one has to learn and progress and he will achieve a state where one can possible watch thoughts and actions, its hard work but it can be achieved.
He was still conditioned by the very thing that he was talking about and that was his very own mind (a thought)! Although he add it up a good chunk of the 'new' insight into the working (function) and into the nature of this animal man's mind.
This culture is always incoherent. On one side they say dont be selfish, they say love yourself or be ambitious, or you dont have self esteem, or you have to be identified with something..peace with yourself, and so on...
Jk - if you tell this is a beautiful car you got sensation. And when you want to touch or try to get it it's makes desire and bring pleasure to pain Ug - he asked a basic question. How you can told that the car is beautiful. It's your knowledge and thought operating here. And thought giving it's continuity to fortified and give momentum . This simply showing that ug is really beyond jk ❤
@@BPSchauhan without understanding if anyone is trying to compare then it's foolishness. But after understanding both, you can effortlessly say who touched the root. 👍
Then why does he thinks or talks like he spinning away on a 'planet'.. or 'globe' that the narrative gave him? Surely someone of his caliber should see right thru the illusory bullshit of the globe 'earth' idea? Don't believe me. Go and google 'earth'.. all you're get are cartoons.
Thank you for this upload. We all need some UG in our lives. Question! If you have a hypothetical situation where you either had to get rid of 1 hard working gardener who was happy planting flowers. Or. A group/ family of ex convicts who have the same predatory nature as pedophiles, rapists and child molesters who prey on innocence and naivety. Who would, have stolen and do steal from the disabled, “mentally ill”, elderly, young... doesn’t matter to them. You could be a teenage mother. It doesn’t matter to them. If you had to get rid of one. Which?
He figured life out. U.G., Osho, J. Krishnamurti, Lao Tzu, Plato, Jung, Schopenhauer, Alan Watts, Einstein, Tesla, Gurdjieff; these guys won the game of life. They won.
@@waedjradidisagree. There’s nothing to win nor to get. Implying that there is “truth” is making a the same bloody distinction. What is apparent is just what is apparent. Nothing unique about it
After reading so many lectures from respected sages gurus,quantum physics, philosophical thoughts. UG summed it all up for me. I search no more. it is what it is, ILLUSIONS.
I heard that UG travelled with JK for almost 25 years learned from experiences of JK, now professing like his own experiences and even saying that JK is fake then what is doing with him for 25 years if he already know that he is fake. Anyway it is not a new thing, it happened in every era to great personalities like buddha and mahavira when there own disciples betrayed them.
If not that, then how else do you experience anything? Its through language (words, knowledge) those sounds themselves in language even have been named and recognized as something therefore given meaning, is the only way you can experience anything in so called (and also named/defined) life. Without that structure, there is no way to experience anything at all. Therefore you wouldnt be able to experience "you" as you know yourself the moment that structure comes to an end.
UG Krishnamurti has helped me realize the illusions created by the mind. For example, the status quo of the world mind and its value systems are pure nonsense (egotistical) for the human body. This is why the human body suffers and gets sick because it is trying to get rid of the neurological defect which is thinking. The first time I heard UG I thought he was cynical or a fatalist or an antichrist, but I was dead wrong. The art of not thinking is not easy especially if you live in a culture of value systems. Culture is alive and everywhere in the globe right now in that case it's better to be just an observer. The idea of being in the now seems closer when I let go of the demand to free myself from anything. Thank you for posting and thank you UG K!
I have found that being in what is called “the now” is simply the phisical existance of the body. As there is no mind but only thoughts about thoughts, and as thoughts are only images , then these are not really here/ there/ anywhere. Just a mechanical function. Realising this non existance of thought you realise there is only the body. And so where else can you be but here…. Where you always are. That is not about time really but if you want to say “now” then where else can you or that which actually exists, exist, other than now. ( as far as the body is concerned)
The religious notion of making some effort to be in the now is more budhist rubbish. Religion creats this non existent problem and then sells us way to remain now as a solution. But that solution keeps the illusionary problem of being where u always are anywsy, here/ now , a problem. But there is no way NOT to be here now because there is nowhere else to be. So we can all relax
"Your wanting to be in a state of effortlessness through the use of effort is not going to succeed. Even to stop that effort is an effort"
true !
The Mindtrap
Ug is a voice of sanity in a mad world
There’s nothing older than the idea that “This is new."
Right said !
@@BPSchauhan YES!
Sad and humbling to see that humanity has not learned anything to this day2023 it’s a lonely but peaceful place, to realise before truly dying
One of the cleanest audio quality, Thank you!
I worked on it to Get it ! Thanks for Anticipation
TRUE
The clearest exegesis of his ideas I have ever heard.
It should be played to all the monks and students in all the ashrams, monasteries, shuls and madrassas on the planet.
As the commenter below says - a modern day Ashtavakra.
Absolutely ! we are living False life which UG points out !
To be yourself, you don't have to do anything. You don't have to exercise your will. But to be something other than what you are, you have to do lot of things.
but you need the courage to pay any price for it....
@@emilobe the courage to stand alone
@@prajnabala that's the same.
To be a conditioned self
❤
I can put any recording of UG on low volume and it dissolves all the stress I have.
I think he is my guru for now. He is complex but he says it as it is, no beating around the bush.
@@noc9005 Every human being is complex.
if the question of. 'how to be happy' is dropped, then you begin to live, not bothering about happiness at all
right
Yep, "how" must go
Yeah, that's called happy-go-lucky .
What a masterpiece!...thank you U.G. and thank you for the upload!
Who ever doesn’t understand what U.G. Is saying isn’t trying to understand. They just want to be argumentative. We have to use words to communicate in order to function and perform tasks in our world. We can only experience things as things because we call them things. Without our words, we don’t know what we’re looking at, touching, tasting, feeling, thinking. Animals think but they don’t think like humans. Humans think in language, images, and we use our imagination and memories/thoughts to experience things.
He’s using words to describe his state of being which is the same state every human body is already in not human thought. The human body. Eyes don’t see the word table in relation to an image we’ve memorized. The eyes see what they see. They don’t tell them selves “ I see a table”. Your organs function without one single conscious thought.
Thanks for this amazing collection
This recording is from the audio tapes called "Give Up" which were made by Henk Schoenfeld in Amsterdam around 1982. The book "The Courage to Stand Alone" was made from these tapes. I think it is one of the greatest conversations we have from UG. Because there is no copyright on UG's talks, recordings, or books -- we are so happy for this being on UA-cam, but it should be free of commercials -- ideally. Today is UG's birthday (7/9/1918).
use an "Adblocker"...
@@fatfrreddy1414 I did that and it is great. But I still think that UG's talks should be free as he never charged or made a penny from them. But that's just my thing. Not important. I don't think he would care at all.
Thanks for Pure, Honest Words ! I LOVE UG and try to Bring him properly on UA-cam. I cleaned the Audio then uploaded. Pleasure to work for UG
I don't know anything l am just a simple, down to earth person l call my husband who plays role as my provider and live under one
roof who is my man or my husband
After his death l just asked
my widow pension
Five years have gone
I am still waiting for widow
pension. Is this British
social justice?
This is social media manipulating They found agenda to keep going daily
basis
You are a dead person
telling me doesn't matter my
man dead or alive
I want to know what happend
to my man
Krishna Murthy was my grand pa
I know what he did to my grand mother
Please someone is living above my roof Find out who is there.
@@prajnabalabuy youtube premium. I would’ve bought you one if you were my gf.
The courage to stand on your two solid feet is something which cannot be given by somebody. If you are freed from the burden of the entire past of mankind, then what is there is the courage, not through the development of any courage you can free yourself from that burden.
that's Right !
That is why the book is called: "The Courage to Stand Alone: Conversations with U.G. Krishnamurti".
U G'S talks are GOLD
Exactly ! Sorry for late reply
This one video is enough. Wonderful, hoping 🙏 one to one realize the fact of life. This lecture shows a genius person can make a natural way of living
Exactly ! Trying To Bring Back UG on UA-cam ! Share to Friends.
Ouïiiii! En français ça pourrait être amusant 😉
He is such a darling 😌❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥Flame
such an awesome talk!
Thank you very much for sharing this GOLD message ❤
Such an amazing man
Exactly ! He solves the problem in fraction of seconds ! people fights with spiritual theories many years !
UG took this approach of materialism philosophy and I tend to agree with him. But I would have liked to hear his opinion on mind-body disorders and the subjective experience of consciousness that haven’t been explained in materialism. If the mind (thought) is an illusion, how can the illusion be so strong that it causes this apparent physiological changes ?
Don’t the constant illusions weaken the organs and muscles. It’s like an electrical energy targeting the areas weakening us. Making us sick. That’s how I understood it. I could be wrong!
Idealism most likely. Thought creates the body and the definitions.
Naturalness is something that you don't have to know. You just have to let it function in its own way.
❤
Om shanthi
Respect to this brilliant and honest pragmatic philosopher, exposing all these phonies for the frauds they are.
Object creates subject - Experience creates Self.
When we experience any object that experience gets stored in memory cells. Response of memory in the form of thoughts explains the experience. One thought acts as Me / Self and it divides all thoughts as observer Me and his observation thoughts. This psychological division creates conflicts in all our psychological life. Without psychological Me and his psychological ideas, life becomes lonely and boring. So we indulge in relationship to get something out of it. Moment we stop getting anything from any relationship, we start hating same relationship. That's our life.
Fear of sinking is the impediment to let the body move in its own way
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The realisation, that culture as enslaved us to our physcology, the game , the weird part is why , offcourse we have to act immediately, we all gonna die lets change while we still alive.
After listening to plenty of UG talks it occurred somehow that an entity isn't even possible an I isn't possible (its only available as a mirage or like a rainbow) even if you had alot of money and a cadre of engineers you couldn't do it.
I was trying to locate the video where he met with doctor's and asked for help with his heart problem. It appears it has been wiped from the internet..
As Far as I know UG was not a heart patient or have any heart problem any time !
@BPSchauhan Actually you are definitely wrong.. at the very end of his life he was having problems with his heart.. although he was never a heart patient he did have an irregular heart beat that he was concerned about. He consulted several doctors in this video and offered any one of them who could fix his problem a lot of money .. (I believe it was $300,000.00) but the doctors were not interested in his money and did nothing to help him. This video was since removed from the internet because it showed how human he really was. I personally think his heart palpitations may have been the result of him eating canned fruit for most of his life. He once said that fresh fruit was really not fresh anyway and that he preferred canned fruit. PBA in the can linings and other things like heavy syrup and high fructose corn syrup in canned fruit can be bad for the heart.
@@superwhuffo1 may be possible, I see what he delivered, He cleared my many doubts of belief and other things in few words !
@@BPSchauhanlol this guy exposed UG and you still defend ug 😂
@@boomerang0101 that's dumb
❤❤
13:05 🙏🙂
No answer is the only answer you’ll ever get. The end.
No matter the video, no matter its part. The message remains the same: "we're just robots" 🤖
robots by society !
'we'?! what is that you call 'we'- well, you cannot go to 'we' if you are not first of all clear about 'I'. So, what is the 'I' that you think is a robot?
@@d1427...mmm I don't see an I, do you ? 😅
@@RonWesterbeek hmmm... who's the I that says 'I don't see an I'? so, what do your eye/I see, only a 'weeeeee'?
Or puppets?
Sir,
First of all, I thank you for existing and helping future generations.
I had to say these words as you've uploaded a number of videos of UG and your students have interacted with some of them.
Please be careful, as if influenced by UG, the student will become useless for society.
You are surely aware that we justify our sins. Imagine the magnitude of harm that an unformed mind can cause if influenced by the lack of ethical and moral values professed by UG.
Only interacting with you here as you are becoming a gateway to UG. I hope you will act as guru for them and not merely as a teacher.
THANX FOR READING. best of luck for future.
I do not want to show UGs Audio or Video to students but my This channel is educational Channel. As a Teaching for Society - I upload these videos on this channel but i do not send notification to all the Students.
I think understanding is not mechanical. Otherwise we have to accept the process of memory as understanding mechanism. Understanding is a quality of attention. Complete attention must be understanding without direction and no center and is faster than thought identification. So, primarily I understand and later I try to explain with the help of thoughts and language. The process is slow and not representative as any sage observed.
🎉😊
Around 41:00 he talks about its not possible to watch our thoughts and every actions.
I have great respect for Mr. UG. but at this point he is not completely correct there are ways and methods to exactly do this and one has to learn and progress and he will achieve a state where one can possible watch thoughts and actions, its hard work but it can be achieved.
Lol have you been able to do so?
He was still conditioned by the very thing that he was talking about and that was his very own mind (a thought)! Although he add it up a good chunk of the 'new' insight into the working (function) and into the nature of this animal man's mind.
YES Sir ! Otherwise it will become impossible to communicate !
This culture is always incoherent.
On one side they say dont be selfish, they say love yourself or be ambitious, or you dont have self esteem, or you have to be identified with something..peace with yourself, and so on...
🙏😼
🐕👀
Jk - if you tell this is a beautiful car you got sensation. And when you want to touch or try to get it it's makes desire and bring pleasure to pain
Ug - he asked a basic question. How you can told that the car is beautiful. It's your knowledge and thought operating here. And thought giving it's continuity to fortified and give momentum .
This simply showing that ug is really beyond jk ❤
Exactly ! Why People starts comparison and not try to understand The Point .
@@BPSchauhan without understanding if anyone is trying to compare then it's foolishness.
But after understanding both, you can effortlessly say who touched the root.
👍
Then why does he thinks or talks like he spinning away on a 'planet'.. or 'globe' that the narrative gave him? Surely someone of his caliber should see right thru the illusory bullshit of the globe 'earth' idea? Don't believe me. Go and google 'earth'.. all you're get are cartoons.
Note: 29:14 onwards..
To many advertisements.
yes this channel is monetized before, now i am trying UG with some clean audio & Video !
use an "Adblocker"! ffs....
@@fatfrreddy1414this beech b complaining all over
You can't self improve listening to UG, cuz he deny the existence of a Self. He state when he say "I", it's just for communication.
Was Jiddu K not in natural state?
YES ! He was not because he created so much value system around him to Focus himself !
Thank you for this upload. We all need some UG in our lives.
Question!
If you have a hypothetical situation where you either had to get rid of 1 hard working gardener who was happy planting flowers.
Or.
A group/ family of ex convicts who have the same predatory nature as pedophiles, rapists and child molesters who prey on innocence and naivety.
Who would, have stolen and do steal from the disabled, “mentally ill”, elderly, young... doesn’t matter to them. You could be a teenage mother. It doesn’t matter to them.
If you had to get rid of one.
Which?
Why is this a question?
@@dbuck1964 I believe I was looking for some answers? I have no recollection of doing this. And that’s okay too. ✌️
U.G. would say he never responded to hypotheticals. And, I agree.
01:23:03
I think U G is very much closer to the truth.
He figured life out. U.G., Osho, J. Krishnamurti, Lao Tzu, Plato, Jung, Schopenhauer, Alan Watts, Einstein, Tesla, Gurdjieff; these guys won the game of life. They won.
@@waedjradidisagree. There’s nothing to win nor to get. Implying that there is “truth” is making a the same bloody distinction. What is apparent is just what is apparent. Nothing unique about it
Egotism is truth. UG K. is the Eastern Max Stirner
UG channeling Blaise Pascal… its center is nowhere and its circumference is nowhere
🙏
Jee 2023 ka start krdo basics se
not possible now
21st century Astavakra.
He falsified ashtavakra...
Try to know about ajavika..?
Stole my word
After reading so many lectures from respected sages gurus,quantum physics, philosophical thoughts. UG summed it all up for me. I search no more. it is what it is, ILLUSIONS.
Astavakra never kept taking about one night stands, infatuation, and related things.
Clarity of Ashtavakra and confusion of UG both are extremum.
1.28
I heard that UG travelled with JK for almost 25 years learned from experiences of JK, now professing like his own experiences and even saying that JK is fake then what is doing with him for 25 years if he already know that he is fake. Anyway it is not a new thing, it happened in every era to great personalities like buddha and mahavira when there own disciples betrayed them.
Can you confirm he traveled with JK for 25 years? From what I have heard UG only met him a couple times. Maybe the information you heard is not true
BS. They were together only during Theosophical society days. then BOTH parted ways. Jiddu went to California, UG went to Europe
Angry and confused
Totally nonsense to say that the knowledge about things is all you experience ...and saying it with such force doesn't make it more truth...
How so
Read vivekananda
@@zindagijeenede "Read the Bible"......
@@dauphindauphin6607 read that if you like
If not that, then how else do you experience anything? Its through language (words, knowledge) those sounds themselves in language even have been named and recognized as something therefore given meaning, is the only way you can experience anything in so called (and also named/defined) life. Without that structure, there is no way to experience anything at all. Therefore you wouldnt be able to experience "you" as you know yourself the moment that structure comes to an end.
Snap out of myself 🪴
this guy far from do called spirituality
Yo don’t want to solve yourself that is the problem the “Self “ Is the problem 🥹💐🙏