My dad bought a 1957 model 641 new in the spring of 1958 when I was six years old. I am delighted to still have the tractor in good condition and use it often. Nice video. Thanks!
I had one of those exact models for years. I used to log with it and plow snow and bush hog. I have a bunch of videos of that on my channel that you’d probably like from a few years ago.
I have a 641 that was given to me by my grandfather. I restored it 25 years ago and it is still used for snow removal and dirt work. It is probably the most reliable power tool I own!
One thing that is consistent in all these old videos is the flute music in the background. All the happy tunes to promote a good feeling subliminaly while we sell you something.
Yes indeed, they are very stylish, some of the best looking tractors around, in fact. Also loved the styling on the larger 6000 tractor, despite its poor reputation for reliability. A real shame - could have been a game changer.
They were built to last and still used on many farms across America..These models are 60 plus years old, and the 8-N, 2-N models are from the 40's and 50's and still get the job done. Amazing American built tractors manufactured here. What ever happened to our Country?
Joseph M In what way? Do Case, Deere, MF/AGCO and many many more not build superb tractors, combines and implements today in your country, doing more work for more hours for a lower cost per acre adjusted for inflation than ever before?
@Phil Hall Great to hear that you are working on the old tractors.. I have had a few Ford 8-Ns over the years, fine little tractors for racking hay. I own John deer from the 70,s and 80,s and they run and work hard with little problems. Compared to the new junk they sell today, these old tractors will outlast them and still be working many years from know. Good luck to you.
My Dad had an 801 and 861, both diesels. They were fine machines, ahead of their time with live power and draft control. We used them until the early ‘80’s.
Hi Periscope Film, I would like to thank your entire staff for preserving, restoring, and sharing all these films and videos that reminds us of our (American/Canadian) past. I thank you for bringing me back to a time of innocence, hope and optimism - the era I grew up with. Thank you for the memories and for producing these for the education of future generations. Merry Christmas to you all, Ciao, L (Baby Boomer Veteran)
That does it! My next tractor is going to be a 1957 Ford! Why, with that Red Tiger engine, and such a wide array of tools that can be operated using hydraulic power, my small flat in London could some of the most productive farmland for miles around!
i love my old mf but a neighbor bought a 641 the last one sold at our little fod dealer i spent many a hour on that baby they were good tractors any body with half sence could work on them that 641 is still in his family all painted up looking better than new
My Grandfather bought a 601 Brand New. He had a 9 N and We still have it. I don't know if it is because the 601 had more forward gears, but to be honest The 9 N always felt like it had more power to Me. My Grandpa wanted the 9 N back, but He kept the 601 until He died in the mid 80's. We pretty much sold everything My Grandparents had then, but We still have the 9 N and it still runs. Dad said My Grandfather bought it when Dad was 10 or 11 years old. I think it has been overhauled 2 or 3 times, but I could go out and pour some gas in it now and it would probably start. It does need the carburetor rebuilt, that's why it doesn't have any gas in it now because the float sticks and runs all the gas out on the ground, unless You turn it off at the tank. I still love that old Tractor. We have a 3,000 Diesel that belonged to My Dad's Uncle and He bought it New in 1968, the same year I was born. Then We had a few other brands for pulling a Manure spreader. We were Chicken Farmers from 1970 until the year 2,000. Mom and Dad have retired now. We bought a 4610su in 1985 new to run a generator to supply emergency power for the Chicken Houses because in the summer they have to stay cool or they start drying off heart attacks very quickly if they get to hot. A Generator puts a heavy load on a tractor and even the 4610 got hot once when the main transformer from the electric company blew. The changed the transformer as quick as they could, but We were getting worried about the Tractor. I think Dad sprayed water on the radiator with a water hose to keep it from overheating. It's still running strong, but it is ready for a clutch. It has an unusual transmission. It has 4 gears on the right and a low and a high range forward and a reverse on the left on the steering wheel. The right gears are kind of like a foreign car without the reverse. So it has 4 reverses, and 8 forward gears. If anyone wants to help us put a clutch in it, the help would be appreciated.
It was Harry Ferguson who invented the 3 point hitch system. At one time they were partners and Fords using this system had Ferguson System emblems on the grille.
Ferguson was a hard man to work with and the Ford representative in the UK wanted nothing to do with him and the Ford in charge over rode his objections and made a contract with Ferguson. It lasted a few years but the break up was pretty ugly from both sides.
@@michelebeck4311 Ferguson got paid $9.25 million dollars in 1947 to go away and quit being a PITA. That's equal to $111 million in 2020. Yeah...that's really being "screwed." Ford was losing money in England on every sale because Ferguson controlled all of the sales in England of Ford agricultural equipment and was an incredibly bad businessman. Ford was glad to get rid of him.
We have a Ford Ferguson that still runs now. It is The Best Old Tractor that We have ever had. It is a Shame that they split up. My Grandpa bought it used when My Dad was 10 or 11 years old. I think the engine has been overhauled 2 or 3 times, but it keeps on going. Right now it needs the carburetor rebuilt, because if You leave the gas turned on, You will loose all of the gas out of the gas tank.
You could learn to run a tractor in the 50's in minutes. Today it takes months or years of training, licenses, and myriad government red tape hoops to jump through and the tractor has gps and a sophisticated computer that will shut itself down at will. I miss the 50's.
Interesting film: never seen some of those features since. Implements similar to the old Ferguson implements= common heritage. But I do like the standard of Ploughing - even Plowing ! All the work you see on vintage or "modern" days leave a lot to be desired - unburied trash
It would be interesting to see what if that field that the 4 bottom plow is in is still a field today at 21:50 . Wish somebody knew that and would share today and yesterday photos.
I’d like to try one of these. I have a ‘52 8N that is my most prized possession. That 71 year old tractor keeps the northern Michigan snow removed on my decent sized property all winter.
Independent PTO. The “live PTO” was already in use. A 2 disc clutch enabled the user to depress the clutch halfway to kill the pto but continue forward movement and clutch fully depressed stopped forward motion and the PTO
My dad bought two of the super dextas at the same time in 1963. They were terrible tractors . Always had problems burning starters and batteries. The 3 or hitch would fall just driving down the road. The brakes wore out quickly and didn’t work wee either. I am just waiting on a periscope film from the 1963 super dextas.
Don't see how Ford can claim to have pioneered the adjustable rear wheel mechanism, when it was actually Allis Chalmers who thought up PAVT and licenced it to other manufacturers.
I used to have an 841 Diesel with the Elenco front-driving axle, Sherman hi-lo transmission and remote hydraulics. Nice tractor. I noticed they did not mention the Select-O-Speed transmissions in this video. I would have expected them to be front and center. Did they come out a year or two later?
Lack of local dealers put Ford to a great disadvantage in our part of the country John Deere and IHC were much more numerous and accessible we had 4 of each John Deere and IHC dealers within a 40 mile radius 1 ford within a 30 mile radius. Actually case was 2 times more accessible as well as Minneapolis Moline and Allis Chalmers. Ford just didn't put in as much dealer support as the other manufacturers we even had a Massey Ferguson dealer close by like centrally located to the farm
I learned how to drive on a hormone Cub, but the Yahoo put the tires on backwards which looks like it would dig out but it's wrong. He changed at least one and we can plow our gardens again Farmall Cub
Ford switched to blue and white in 1963 when they introduced the thousand series tractors. They also offered to repaint the 601 and 801 tractors with the new paint colors. I have an 841 that was repainted blue and white under that deal. You can still find the red and grey on it. When I finish the rebuild of mine, it will once again wear its original paint colors.
my father bought an used 1959 801 series with gasoline motor in 1964 still have it today but I don't think it had two and a half times the horsepower of the original model
“Larger tailpipe” .......as it shows an exhaust pipe in the front of the engine/tractor 😅😅 It’s called a tailpipe because in most vehicles it’s on the tail end of the body. On this tractor it exits in the front so that’s not a true “tailpipe”..it’s an exhaust pipe. 🤦♂️ But hey, they are just dumb farmers what do they know??
Absolute scandal that they blatantly copied the Ferguson System while claiming it to be their own invention. They even copied the Ferguson swept back front axle with a drag link on either side of the engine on the smaller models.
Mike England Did they heck! Harry Ferguson took Henry Ford to Court over it and they eventually reached an agreement over the toss of a coin. Ferguson won.
Ford changed the location of the hydraulic pump and added 3 positions to the upper link sensing. Enough to circumvent the patent which Harry let expire. The radius rods had to be changed on the Ford front axle when you changed width. Ferguson did not. Again, Henry got around Harry's patent. Ford had the Sherman Bros build implements for the early N series but the Dearborn brand and at times rebranded to Dearborn equipment came to the fore more as time passed. Harry insisted on a 3 speed transmission for the 9N. Ford put 4 speeds in the 8N and Harry followed suit with the TO 20 & 30. He went back to it with a high and low range built in when Ford threatened a lawsuit in return. Ford continued offering the Sherman auxiliary transmission ahead of the standard 4 speed for several years. I believe they bought the patent from Sherman. That 3 speed with high and low range lasted well into the 70s. I plowed with an 1100 Massey for a neighbor. 3rd low was too slow and 1st high was too fast, it couldn't pull the plow without horsing the motor horribly. Bad idea or just Harry the hardheaded? Harry was long gone but someone kept the stubborn department alive and well for several years after his passing.
@@thegreenerthemeaner Henry Ford was sued and lost to the tune of $9million. However, by 1958 Ferguson's major patents had run out of time and many other brands made their own variants, copies, of Ferguson's many inventions. Ferguson duly sold out to Massey-Harris to form Massey-Harris-Ferguson.
@@hedydd2 I think you have joined up two totally different events, where the History of Fergusons' involvement with Ford is concerned. First of all, Harry Ferguson did indeed sue Ford for a huge amount over patent infringement, but only got awarded £9•25 Million in the end. The case lasted four years ! The coin toss you mention, was in fact Fergusons' idea, during discussions with representatives of Massey Harris, who valued Fergusons' Company at $1 Million Dollars less than Ferguson wanted, so to break the impasse, Ferguson suggested tossing the coin to see who would win - as it turned out, Massey Harris' people won, not Harry Ferguson. Need to brush up on your history my man !
@@jamesbarbour8400 You are correct. I have not read up on this in over thirty years if not longer. I have Harry Ferguson’s biography somewhere but I haven’t seen it in a very very long time now.
Because there are people out there who aren't brand loyalist dolts. All companies make great and garbage products. Finding the best one based on statistics and price and not the color is a better idea.
My dad bought a 1957 model 641 new in the spring of 1958 when I was six years old. I am delighted to still have the tractor in good condition and use it often. Nice video. Thanks!
I had one of those exact models for years. I used to log with it and plow snow and bush hog. I have a bunch of videos of that on my channel that you’d probably like from a few years ago.
I have a 641 that was given to me by my grandfather. I restored it 25 years ago and it is still used for snow removal and dirt work. It is probably the most reliable power tool I own!
One thing that is consistent in all these old videos is the flute music in the background.
All the happy tunes to promote a good feeling subliminaly while we sell you something.
My granddad bought one new in '57. Used it up until he retired, MANY years later. Drove the wee beastie myself, many times.
I bet there's still quite a few running even now.
@@BELCAN57 There's plenty still working.
Can't help but love these old tractors! Great on gas and a lot of power! And they're beautiful!
Well not great on gas but still running and working everyday in many fields across America..
@@dukeman7595 I think mine is very good on gas.
Yes indeed, they are very stylish, some of the best looking tractors around, in fact. Also loved the styling on the larger 6000 tractor, despite its poor reputation for reliability. A real shame - could have been a game changer.
They were built to last and still used on many farms across America..These models are 60 plus years old, and the 8-N, 2-N models are from the 40's and 50's and still get the job done. Amazing American built tractors manufactured here. What ever happened to our Country?
Planned Obsolescence is the motto of today's designers.
Joseph M
In what way? Do Case, Deere, MF/AGCO and many many more not build superb tractors, combines and implements today in your country, doing more work for more hours for a lower cost per acre adjusted for inflation than ever before?
@Phil Hall Great to hear that you are working on the old tractors.. I have had a few Ford 8-Ns over the years, fine little tractors for racking hay. I own John deer from the 70,s and 80,s and they run and work hard with little problems. Compared to the new junk they sell today, these old tractors will outlast them and still be working many years from know. Good luck to you.
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My Dad had an 801 and 861, both diesels.
They were fine machines, ahead of their time with live power and draft control.
We used them until the early ‘80’s.
im still using my 860 got it cheap and it runs fine
Draft control was standard on 8Ns
Hi Periscope Film, I would like to thank your entire staff for preserving, restoring, and sharing all these films and videos that reminds us of our (American/Canadian) past. I thank you for bringing me back to a time of innocence, hope and optimism - the era I grew up with. Thank you for the memories and for producing these for the education of future generations. Merry Christmas to you all, Ciao, L (Baby Boomer Veteran)
That does it! My next tractor is going to be a 1957 Ford! Why, with that Red Tiger engine, and such a wide array of tools that can be operated using hydraulic power, my small flat in London could some of the most productive farmland for miles around!
Amazing what Harry Ferguson gave to farming.
Still driving a ‘49 TO 20 to cut fields.
i love my old mf but a neighbor bought a 641 the last one sold at our little fod dealer i spent many a hour on that baby they were good tractors any body with half sence could work on them that 641 is still in his family all painted up looking better than new
My Grandfather bought a 601 Brand New. He had a 9 N and We still have it. I don't know if it is because the 601 had more forward gears, but to be honest The 9 N always felt like it had more power to Me. My Grandpa wanted the 9 N back, but He kept the 601 until He died in the mid 80's. We pretty much sold everything My Grandparents had then, but We still have the 9 N and it still runs. Dad said My Grandfather bought it when Dad was 10 or 11 years old. I think it has been overhauled 2 or 3 times, but I could go out and pour some gas in it now and it would probably start. It does need the carburetor rebuilt, that's why it doesn't have any gas in it now because the float sticks and runs all the gas out on the ground, unless You turn it off at the tank. I still love that old Tractor. We have a 3,000 Diesel that belonged to My Dad's Uncle and He bought it New in 1968, the same year I was born. Then We had a few other brands for pulling a Manure spreader. We were Chicken Farmers from 1970 until the year 2,000. Mom and Dad have retired now. We bought a 4610su in 1985 new to run a generator to supply emergency power for the Chicken Houses because in the summer they have to stay cool or they start drying off heart attacks very quickly if they get to hot. A Generator puts a heavy load on a tractor and even the 4610 got hot once when the main transformer from the electric company blew. The changed the transformer as quick as they could, but We were getting worried about the Tractor. I think Dad sprayed water on the radiator with a water hose to keep it from overheating. It's still running strong, but it is ready for a clutch. It has an unusual transmission. It has 4 gears on the right and a low and a high range forward and a reverse on the left on the steering wheel. The right gears are kind of like a foreign car without the reverse. So it has 4 reverses, and 8 forward gears. If anyone wants to help us put a clutch in it, the help would be appreciated.
Grew up running a '53 NAA & a '58 841 Powermaster. Lots of good memories.
It was Harry Ferguson who invented the 3 point hitch system. At one time they were partners and Fords using this system had Ferguson System emblems on the grille.
Ford screwed Ferguson over.
Ferguson was a hard man to work with and the Ford representative in the UK wanted nothing to do with him and the Ford in charge over rode his objections and made a contract with Ferguson. It lasted a few years but the break up was pretty ugly from both sides.
@@michelebeck4311 Ferguson got paid $9.25 million dollars in 1947 to go away and quit being a PITA. That's equal to $111 million in 2020. Yeah...that's really being "screwed." Ford was losing money in England on every sale because Ferguson controlled all of the sales in England of Ford agricultural equipment and was an incredibly bad businessman. Ford was glad to get rid of him.
CHARLES ATWELL and oddly enough the new MF’s seem to have terrible hydraulic problems. Talk about irony.
We have a Ford Ferguson that still runs now. It is The Best Old Tractor that We have ever had. It is a Shame that they split up. My Grandpa bought it used when My Dad was 10 or 11 years old. I think the engine has been overhauled 2 or 3 times, but it keeps on going. Right now it needs the carburetor rebuilt, because if You leave the gas turned on, You will loose all of the gas out of the gas tank.
Still have grandpas 601 work master he bought new. Still a beast
I started driving a 961 and a 981 on our farm ... mid 70s era ...
Clear message, clear structure, easy to understand, thank you
I can only imagine a tractor without having that "Rest-O-Ride" seat!!
Got a 1959 sitting in the garage ; )
Just finished a rebuild on a 951 Diesel with a wide front. The injector pump is truly shot, but maybe I’ll hear it run soon!
Thank You ...
You could learn to run a tractor in the 50's in minutes. Today it takes months or years of training, licenses, and myriad government red tape hoops to jump through and the tractor has gps and a sophisticated computer that will shut itself down at will. I miss the 50's.
Looks like ford came out with a great ideal with those tractor wheel spacers great history film
Thanks again for keeping the videos coming..
Interesting film: never seen some of those features since. Implements similar to the old Ferguson implements= common heritage. But I do like the standard of Ploughing - even Plowing ! All the work you see on vintage or "modern" days leave a lot to be desired - unburied trash
Interesting , Thank You
outstanding!!!
It would be interesting to see what if that field that the 4 bottom plow is in is still a field today at 21:50 . Wish somebody knew that and would share today and yesterday photos.
Incredible engineering! I want one!
I’d like to try one of these. I have a ‘52 8N that is my most prized possession. That 71 year old tractor keeps the northern Michigan snow removed on my decent sized property all winter.
This 1957 Ford Workmaster Tractor is so easy to operate, even a dumb ole girl can learn how to work it. LOL 13:08
The live power PTO was a great improvement. I'll give them that. The old PTO. Would push you places you didn't want to go
That's why the aftermarket offer an over run clutch for the PTO.
Independent PTO.
The “live PTO” was already in use. A 2 disc clutch enabled the user to depress the clutch halfway to kill the pto but continue forward movement and clutch fully depressed stopped forward motion and the PTO
Just bought my first Ford tractor. 1962
Dad had a 951 powermaster in 1958.
12:45 She's a beauty.
@Mike England old
Just got a 650 workmaster
Truly wonderful
My dad bought two of the super dextas at the same time in 1963. They were terrible tractors . Always had problems burning starters and batteries. The 3 or hitch would fall just driving down the road. The brakes wore out quickly and didn’t work wee either. I am just waiting on a periscope film from the 1963 super dextas.
13:10 Yeah, but can she cook?.. Swell show. Thanx.
She can handle a tractor, so there's that.
Scratch Dog 22 Why, even a woman could drive a tractor!
33 cents a gallon!
Good day from Ont. Trains of Canada Back in 1968 I think we paid .28 cents for a gallon of diesel Thanks
The LPG would have been 5~6 cents a gallon.
dazaspc n
Adjusted for inflation 33 cents in 1960 is equal to 2.50 cents today
What model is that bush hogging at the 19:54 mark, he’s in heavy heavy vegetation and making it happen. I want that model of ford tractor
I actually have that rotary cutter and is still being used today. It is a Ford 901.
Don't see how Ford can claim to have pioneered the adjustable rear wheel mechanism, when it was actually Allis Chalmers who thought up PAVT and licenced it to other manufacturers.
I used to have an 841 Diesel with the Elenco front-driving axle, Sherman hi-lo transmission and remote hydraulics. Nice tractor. I noticed they did not mention the Select-O-Speed transmissions in this video. I would have expected them to be front and center. Did they come out a year or two later?
1959 for the Select-O-Speed.
I have a 661 workmaster. Straight tin but left outside so it has surface rust.
Lack of local dealers put Ford to a great disadvantage in our part of the country John Deere and IHC were much more numerous and accessible we had 4 of each John Deere and IHC dealers within a 40 mile radius 1 ford within a 30 mile radius. Actually case was 2 times more accessible as well as Minneapolis Moline and Allis Chalmers. Ford just didn't put in as much dealer support as the other manufacturers we even had a Massey Ferguson dealer close by like centrally located to the farm
I learned how to drive on a hormone Cub, but the Yahoo put the tires on backwards which looks like it would dig out but it's wrong. He changed at least one and we can plow our gardens again Farmall Cub
A lovely film and beautiful tractors. Not much support from the seat though! When and why did Ford tractors get a blue paint finish?
Ford switched to blue and white in 1963 when they introduced the thousand series tractors. They also offered to repaint the 601 and 801 tractors with the new paint colors. I have an 841 that was repainted blue and white under that deal. You can still find the red and grey on it. When I finish the rebuild of mine, it will once again wear its original paint colors.
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@@doughibbard8462 Doug, my apologies. I somehow missed your reply two years ago! Thanks for that information. All very interesting.
Where can I find a Ford Dearborn 4 bottom plow like that at 1:20??
That in all probability is a Dearborn plow made for Ford by the Dearborn Plow Company
@@robertpayne2717 I know. I want one
Always wondered why the Sherman transmission wasn't offered ahead of the 5 spd.
There isn't room in the bellhousing for both the live pto clutch and Sherman. But yes a Sherman with a 5 speed would be bad ass.
I want a 961 wide front!
Saddle oxfords and bobbi sox!
my father bought an used 1959 801 series with gasoline motor in 1964 still have it today but I don't think it had two and a half times the horsepower of the original model
Man I wish gas was thet cheap
Ahh yes the suck of the shares avoids the evils of soil compaction ! I can see mr farmer now telling his wife, they need a new furd !
“Larger tailpipe” .......as it shows an exhaust pipe in the front of the engine/tractor 😅😅
It’s called a tailpipe because in most vehicles it’s on the tail end of the body. On this tractor it exits in the front so that’s not a true “tailpipe”..it’s an exhaust pipe. 🤦♂️
But hey, they are just dumb farmers what do they know??
Yet I bet they know more than you do on how to take care of equipment and how to salvage stuff. 🤣
None of these tractors have rops or fops
Absolute scandal that they blatantly copied the Ferguson System while claiming it to be their own invention. They even copied the Ferguson swept back front axle with a drag link on either side of the engine on the smaller models.
Mike England
Did they heck! Harry Ferguson took Henry Ford to Court over it and they eventually reached an agreement over the toss of a coin. Ferguson won.
Ford changed the location of the hydraulic pump and added 3 positions to the upper link sensing. Enough to circumvent the patent which Harry let expire. The radius rods had to be changed on the Ford front axle when you changed width. Ferguson did not. Again, Henry got around Harry's patent. Ford had the Sherman Bros build implements for the early N series but the Dearborn brand and at times rebranded to Dearborn equipment came to the fore more as time passed. Harry insisted on a 3 speed transmission for the 9N. Ford put 4 speeds in the 8N and Harry followed suit with the TO 20 & 30. He went back to it with a high and low range built in when Ford threatened a lawsuit in return. Ford continued offering the Sherman auxiliary transmission ahead of the standard 4 speed for several years. I believe they bought the patent from Sherman. That 3 speed with high and low range lasted well into the 70s. I plowed with an 1100 Massey for a neighbor. 3rd low was too slow and 1st high was too fast, it couldn't pull the plow without horsing the motor horribly. Bad idea or just Harry the hardheaded? Harry was long gone but someone kept the stubborn department alive and well for several years after his passing.
@@thegreenerthemeaner
Henry Ford was sued and lost to the tune of $9million. However, by 1958 Ferguson's major patents had run out of time and many other brands made their own variants, copies, of Ferguson's many inventions. Ferguson duly sold out to Massey-Harris to form Massey-Harris-Ferguson.
@@hedydd2 I think you have joined up two totally different events, where the History of Fergusons' involvement with Ford is concerned.
First of all, Harry Ferguson did indeed sue Ford for a huge amount over patent infringement, but only got awarded £9•25 Million in the end. The case lasted four years !
The coin toss you mention, was in fact Fergusons' idea, during discussions with representatives of Massey Harris, who valued Fergusons' Company at $1 Million Dollars less than Ferguson wanted, so to break the impasse, Ferguson suggested tossing the coin to see who would win - as it turned out, Massey Harris' people won, not Harry Ferguson. Need to brush up on your history my man !
@@jamesbarbour8400
You are correct. I have not read up on this in over thirty years if not longer. I have Harry Ferguson’s biography somewhere but I haven’t seen it in a very very long time now.
In spite of being called tractors, they never seem to be installed with tractor beams. So far, anyway.
A serious lack of functionality.
have Scottie beam you up from Hell Satan...
What?
Why buy a small dinky ugly ford when you could have bought a nice stong stylish JD 50 or 60
Because they cost half as much and last
Because there are people out there who aren't brand loyalist dolts. All companies make great and garbage products. Finding the best one based on statistics and price and not the color is a better idea.
JD could not compete price- wise.
Green was too tall and clumsy
Please?