As a retired wrecker operator, no one understands how much goes into a recovery. Even when it seems "routine". And they love to complain about how long it takes. Great job with this "experiment".
I found there is nothing routine about ANY recovery. About the time you get into a "routine" that next recovery is going to knock your balls into the dirt. I did a bunch of stuff in the snow, man you wanna add spice to a recovery go on the snow and ice. Worse yet some idiot breaks through ice on the lake... you are cold, slipping and falling. Now your wet and you just got your gear and winch cable to the Beer delivery truck that rolled into the ditch.
Casey’s wife probably listens to him talking about these ideas in his sleep😆😆. One thing is for sure most people driving by a rescue operation have no damn idea how much goes into getting a wreck safely cleared and off the road. Glad we have people like Casey working on solutions and practicing this stuff!! We need more people like that doing other important jobs like our gov. Because Casey can’t do everything!!
Thank you @CaseyLaDelle for this very detailed, very technical, and very informatively and geeky peek into your thought process. I do towing (yes, even recovery) for the USPS and as huge as our fleet is, we are only ever setup for towing. Recovery is a whole different beast and requires an entirely different mindset and group of tools. Due to our lack of proper equipment, I find myself improvising. Frequently. This vid really helps exercise the alternative thinking we need to do all the time. Keep up the Excellent work and thank you for keeping me thinking.
I am incredibly impressed with how smoothly it set the bus down the second time. I really like seeing you push the limits, because it's obvious you know what you are doing, and try to do it as safely as possible
With a longer rim sling, could you go around a spoke near the rim, place a block of wood against the spokes between the rim sling and the axle, run the ends of the rim sling over top of the block toward the axle and wrap them around the spoke again? The tension on the rim sling would hold the block in place and the winch line would be held out from the face of the wheel by the wooden block.
Every time I watch a video like this where Casey is thinking outside the box and being creative, it reminds me of that quote from Archimedes: "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
I’m impressed how you don’t settle in away and just stay stagnant. You continue to improve your craft and how to use your vehicle in a safe manor and get more done. Good job Casey.
Love that you practice, practice, practice so that you are SAFE and efficient when out in the field on a job!!! Also, ZackLift just got another great video on the capabilities of their product to show prospective customers!
Hey Casey, This is a big boy playing with his big toys to find out what happens when something out of the norm is tried. Experimentation, A great teacher. And glad there was no harm to the personel !
I doubt this is out of the norm. Heavy wrecker operators use snatch blocks in crazy configs when solo wrecker is used. But it is nice of Casey to talk through so we can see how many things you need to consider in pull like this. Impresive.
LOVED THE OUTTAKE! i work in IT, and this came up today. 1. analyze the problem 2. come up with a theory. 3. test the theory. life and experience is all about the testing. keep up the good work!
MORNING CASEY You are a man that takes no risk you do what i do Do your home work first make sure that their is no big risk to you or other people or property Called a 5x5 plan
In my head I had switched where you anchored the spike and the lift, and until you walked through each of the lines and where they were actually anchored i was completely buffaloed on how it was supposed to work. Very impressed with your rigging thought process, thank you for the clear explanation.
Saw a german towing company use special swivel hooks mounted in a special 'rim' which they mounted by unscrewing every second screw on the tire and using longer screws. So the line is outside the vehicle when it drops.
Was that on a light duty application? By screws, I assume you mean wheel bolts, which trucks and almost all vehicles in North America don't have. We use studs which cannot be easily removed roadside. There are a few European cars that have them, but I've never seen them on anything but cars and the odd boat trailer.
💙🇺🇲 I call it a win! It's always good to practice, practice, practice, safety, safety, and safety, which makes you an ace tow-er and keeps you alive too!!!😅
Nice rigging job. The way you walked yourself thru the process, not once, but three times, was impressive. Attention to detail is the key. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Well done Sir. Apart from being an excellent showing of your abilities, that was one heck of a demonstration of Yankum Ropes and of Jacklifts Genesis capabilities. My compliments to all three businesses.
It’s always great to practice in your yard. Practicing will never make you perfect but it will always make you better. I like these videos. Maybe a block of wood between the rim and the sling so when it comes over and down it will keep the sling away from the fender as much as possible.
You might never have said you are good at what you are doing but that look really smooth. Mad respect for all who keep practicing and learning new techniques in their job.
Once you had it all rigged up and I saw it, I kinda figured it would work. Before you cut to Grumpy, when you said you were going to get somneone very special to give their thoughts on all of this, I thought you were going to go get Riley to double check your work 🤣
Coming back from California last week on I-5. North of Sacramento traffic suddenly slowed. A semi was getting pulled out of the ditch on the right side of the road. It appeared that all the equipment was in the ditch or on the shoulder, not in the lane of travel at all. However, all traffic slowed and moved to the left lane. I thought of Casey as I drove by.
You don't get good by sitting on your butt you get good by doing and trying. They also say practice makes perfect but every body knows nothing is perfect just reasonably close to it. Good work Casey
In the army we always have room available, or at least we train that way. Well back the wrecker perpendicular to the rolled vehicle and then use the main winch to right the rolled vehicle (using a chain from the upside wheels) and use the trucks overhead crane to “catch” the vehicle at the tipping point and let it down onto the wheels nice and easy. Overall, there aren’t any side loads. That’s peacetime. If bullets are flying, you’ll get guys that hook up the winch (same right angle orientation) and drive-pull to right the vehicle to let it slam and bounce on the wheels. It’s a much faster rig, limiting your exposure to the bad guys. Overall, nice job with the multiple part rigging! You have much more equipment available on one truck than we typically do on those 8-wheel Oshkosh HEMTTs.
Good morning, Casey! I enjoy your learning/teaching school bus roll-over, not that I will ever be tasked with this, BUT it sure is fun watching you work, thinking OUT LOUD and creating some cool video for YT.
Judging by some of the comments, I think I'm the only one commenting before finishing the video, LOL. I feel that it will work fabulously but you will get a little twist on the frame and the ass end will come down a little harder than the front, but it will work. The comments I'm reading tell me I'm probably wrong and that it worked very well according to plan.
I hope Alan is going to buy you a new sheephead since it was his rope that broke it! He'll probably want the damaged one in exchange so he can show off how good the Yankum products are.
Watching Casey practicing recovery is like watching your team turning double plays. You don't know exactly when you will need it, but when you do - your ready.
Great rigging job Casey. It’s so good to practice. You have some good ideas on how to make slight adjustments to make the recovery go even better. Very educational video. Thanks
Might try strapping an 8 x 8 x 30 inch block top outside of front wheel--thinking that would give adequate fender clearance. For rigging I used to carry an entire box of specialized wood blocks I made over the years. I also attached plywood to one or both sides to prevent splitting the blocks. Really enjoy your channel.
One more thing to consider is to put a chain on the lift line where the hook is at the top of the bus that keeps the chain from sliding forward and off the front of the cab. I think you did a good job.
Hello Casey. Number one I am not a tow trucker just a retired trucker now we are done with that BA BA. I watch a lot of towing and one thing I see them do is extend there under reach under there boom. I hit me why they are making a truss to keep the boom from bending.
Hiya mate, an under reach should never be used to support a top boom. The top boom is tested and rated to work independently with the load being put on the main pin at the base. By "supporting" the boom with an under reach, it creates a fulcrum causing the boom to bend at that point. Many heavy operators have learnt this the hard way. Hope this helps 👍
@@euan9454As for the boom being tested no really yes I even know what Rockwell is ! If I am WRONG OK but I am not stupid !! I think it would be hard to bend if you put the out reach up by the head pully. Just like a crane has cables for the holding the jib up by the head pully . Used to haul crane booms after the were test before the went out on job site. I use to help set them up and take them down. So I know a little about working loads. Its just like when hauling a lattice boom never chain it down must use straps.
@@vega1975 no need to take offence mate. I do heavy recovery as a profession and was only informing of industry standards. Trust me those booms bend like a branch in the wind if it's not operated in the appropriate way
@@euan9454 You met want to think about not talking down to people like there are stupid. Some of us do have common sense. Yeah just like crane booms in HIGH WINDS . I had to help pick the mess after a few them fell over. One operator lost his life and one lost his legs as well as the construction worker that got killed. The cranes were 5 stories.
@@vega1975 sorry if you felt I was talking down to you. Was not my intention, I was merely trying to answer your question. I fully understood your theory because it any other situation that's exactly what someone would do is try create a support for the load. But unfortunately with wreckers it just doesn't work. We had a bloke here lift a fire damage container and didn't account for the goods being wet from the fire department putting the fire out. Chain slipped whilst lifting it, causing the boom to shock load and fold in half
Its always a good day when no one gets any life threatening injuries. Hope you had that checked out. The way you described it didn't sound all too friendly
Could you place a wooden block on the rim to off set the grab line outboard of the fender? With another 4 inches the grab line may have cleared the fender but adding the block may be more fiddling than its worth? Thank you for showing the second iteration of the "whoever thought of it first" technique. I am the farthest thing possible from a recovery person but your explanations are so clear that i think i understand what you are doing well enough to ask questions. By the way, thank you for some of the towing tips you showed over the last while, i had occaision to use my pickup to unstuck several vehicles the last snowstorm we had and I would not have been as successful with out the knowledge I've gained watching you.
Two suggestions. I don't know how possible they would be but here you are. Could the slight movement the bus does before it gets it bite in the rollback be reduced. And second could a horizontal support be placed on the fender to spread the weight across the body when the truck is back on its wheels but not on the ground yet. Love your video's.
Regarding the catch line on the left front wheel: could you put a wood block between the wheel and line, spacing it out 4 or 6 inches and completely missing the fender as the bus lands on the ground?
That's exactly what l was thinking. lf for some reason a chain wasn't available it would be a great way to protect the soft sling and possibly the fender.
Very creative! Looks like it works well. I am wondering if connecting the catch line further back, say to the frame under the drivers seat, would make the catch work better. Also wondering if that would cause body damage or not. Not sure if connecting that far back is a good idea or not but I was wondering about that. Anyway, fun to watch.
My first job driving Tow Truck (Safe-T-Towing) Spokane Washington the owner would let us practice in the junk yard. Its great experience and the best class room. Jerry had new equipment and didn't want it damaged. Good content 👌
Nice planning. It would have been cool to have a laser shot at the boom to see if it really moved or not. Wondering if using the under-reach on the ground as a stabilizer would make the operation safer.
One thing to think about is how would this work with a truck and trailer? I personally think for a truck and trailer you would most likely need a second wrecker depending on the trailer type and length... Shorter trailers probably wouldn't matter but longer 53 footers there may be an issue... Otherwise great work... I knew it would work all along... When you put your mind to it and you get it done... Sometimes not as smoothly as you may hope but the job always gets done in the end... Great work keep it up! Love the vids.
This has helped confirm my plan for a job. Square bin about 10’x 10’ by 23’ tall. Back up trailer 6’ away. Chain at 15’ height seam to two bolts. *as close to corners as I can get* Hook winch to center chain. Do same other side but to a loader tractor bucket. Put bucket up @12’ high. This is catch. As I winch it over the loader catches it. Just not positive the loader is strong enough if there is a lot of slack. Wildly varied claimed weight of entire bin. 3000 to 7000 lbs. As pivot point on trailer should be 6’ *strongest location , and heaviest per ft. if hard hit* under 18’ free. IF total unit under 5000 lbs. to dead lift. Should a loader rated 3000 lb dead lift to top height with at ground breaking lift 5400 lbs. *going from memory of someone else’s machine*. Should that be reasonable? There will be round posts on trailer. Once down to pull forward as trailer 32’.
The second Lift/Catch was surprisingly smoother and achieved a much better result. Only experience made the set up be as "simple" as it could be. I am impressed by your exercise and practice sessions with the bus and the Zack Lift.
HAPPY SEE GRUMPY! Glad he was there give you some advise😉. "It wouldn't of tore it" Enjoyed the video! Happy you have learned to slow down a little to keep yourself safe. I could only imagine was scary not knowing how bad and knowing how bad it could of been. Be Safe! Keep Your Head Up! 👍
Good rigging Casey ! If i might suggest something, have you considered reversing your 2 lines ? The yellow line was a bit more offset than the blue line, so less of an issue on the fender. And moreover, if the blue line was doing the pulling, you would have a better angle to support the boom (wider angle between blue line and left side out rigger) my only worry would be that the 2 lines could infer with each other during the pulling. Tell me what you think of that !
Even if the boom didn't move at all sideway, if that bus was far away in the ditch, you would have a bigger sidepull, and you should get all the support on this boom as you can !
Didn't you have the snatch blocks on the cab wall in the small tow? Pretty good job! Effective! You could have used the front frame spring mount to catch? Try 2 was nice!
For anyone watching - Casey never said he was good at this, but THIS is how you get good!
Practicing new techniques for your trade. Great to see a professional honing their skills.
A true professional practices and constantly improves. That distinguishes a pro from a lesser craftsman who rests on past successes.
As a retired wrecker operator, no one understands how much goes into a recovery. Even when it seems "routine". And they love to complain about how long it takes. Great job with this "experiment".
I found there is nothing routine about ANY recovery. About the time you get into a "routine" that next recovery is going to knock your balls into the dirt. I did a bunch of stuff in the snow, man you wanna add spice to a recovery go on the snow and ice. Worse yet some idiot breaks through ice on the lake... you are cold, slipping and falling. Now your wet and you just got your gear and winch cable to the Beer delivery truck that rolled into the ditch.
The LaDelle Technique is deeply impressive!
Nothing wrong with LaDelle, but Cascade Mountain technique is where it happened, and sounds monumental. 😂
@@marlar58
👏 Sure as HILL does ! 🏔⛰
Casey’s wife probably listens to him talking about these ideas in his sleep😆😆. One thing is for sure most people driving by a rescue operation have no damn idea how much goes into getting a wreck safely cleared and off the road. Glad we have people like Casey working on solutions and practicing this stuff!! We need more people like that doing other important jobs like our gov. Because Casey can’t do everything!!
there is a 99.99998% chance this info will never be useful to my life, but I found it fascinating!
Good to see Grumpy out and about. Good morning to you both. Great job and video
Thank you @CaseyLaDelle for this very detailed, very technical, and very informatively and geeky peek into your thought process. I do towing (yes, even recovery) for the USPS and as huge as our fleet is, we are only ever setup for towing. Recovery is a whole different beast and requires an entirely different mindset and group of tools. Due to our lack of proper equipment, I find myself improvising. Frequently. This vid really helps exercise the alternative thinking we need to do all the time. Keep up the Excellent work and thank you for keeping me thinking.
You know your geometry sir. Good vid.
I am incredibly impressed with how smoothly it set the bus down the second time. I really like seeing you push the limits, because it's obvious you know what you are doing, and try to do it as safely as possible
With a longer rim sling, could you go around a spoke near the rim, place a block of wood against the spokes between the rim sling and the axle, run the ends of the rim sling over top of the block toward the axle and wrap them around the spoke again? The tension on the rim sling would hold the block in place and the winch line would be held out from the face of the wheel by the wooden block.
Good rigging job Casey. This old tugboat captain figured it would work, but was surprised by how gentle the upright positioning occurred.
The Grumpy roll!
Every time I watch a video like this where Casey is thinking outside the box and being creative, it reminds me of that quote from Archimedes: "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
I’m impressed how you don’t settle in away and just stay stagnant. You continue to improve your craft and how to use your vehicle in a safe manor and get more done. Good job Casey.
Love that you practice, practice, practice so that you are SAFE and efficient when out in the field on a job!!! Also, ZackLift just got another great video on the capabilities of their product to show prospective customers!
You could clamp a wood block on the outer side of the tire, it would increase the distance. And prevent the fender or rope from taking damage.
That is a cheap and quick solution as long as the block is secured to the rim and don't shoot out
Big zip ties to hold the block to the wheel
Good idea....thought the same thing before reading your comment.
A lot of thinking went into this idea, I'm sure.
I thought the same thing. Glad I saw this comment. The block or you could fabricate a piece that you can keep with the truck.
Hey Casey,
This is a big boy playing with his big toys to find out what happens when something out of the norm is tried.
Experimentation, A great teacher.
And glad there was no harm to the personel !
I doubt this is out of the norm. Heavy wrecker operators use snatch blocks in crazy configs when solo wrecker is used. But it is nice of Casey to talk through so we can see how many things you need to consider in pull like this. Impresive.
the way you explain all your stuff is very helpful
Since the passenger side fender is still intact you could reverse the flip to see if the fender holds up or not.
Enjoying your videos. Thanks
LOVED THE OUTTAKE! i work in IT, and this came up today. 1. analyze the problem 2. come up with a theory. 3. test the theory. life and experience is all about the testing. keep up the good work!
The LaDelle Maneuver - I like it!
MORNING CASEY You are a man that takes no risk you do what i do
Do your home work first make sure that their is no big risk to you or other people or property
Called a 5x5 plan
In my head I had switched where you anchored the spike and the lift, and until you walked through each of the lines and where they were actually anchored i was completely buffaloed on how it was supposed to work. Very impressed with your rigging thought process, thank you for the clear explanation.
The Casey Method does have a nice ring to it
I really appreciate your ability to articulate your thoughts.
Saw a german towing company use special swivel hooks mounted in a special 'rim' which they mounted by unscrewing every second screw on the tire and using longer screws. So the line is outside the vehicle when it drops.
That's a neat technique for sure
That’s a lot more work than just rigging it normally and disconnecting from underneath when it’s uprighted.
Fine idea but having a 4x4 on the outside of the tire would/might keep off the fender.
How long have you been hallucinating?
Was that on a light duty application? By screws, I assume you mean wheel bolts, which trucks and almost all vehicles in North America don't have. We use studs which cannot be easily removed roadside. There are a few European cars that have them, but I've never seen them on anything but cars and the odd boat trailer.
💙🇺🇲 I call it a win! It's always good to practice, practice, practice, safety, safety, and safety, which makes you an ace tow-er and keeps you alive too!!!😅
Man! That second try wouldn't have cracked an egg! Brilliant mate. Loved it!
Hi Grumpy. Casey I enjoyed this. Makes sense to me. Thank you for the entertaining explanation 👏👏👏
Nice rigging job. The way you walked yourself thru the process, not once, but three times, was impressive. Attention to detail is the key. Great video, thanks for sharing.
Excellent work Casey!!!
Well done Sir. Apart from being an excellent showing of your abilities, that was one heck of a demonstration of Yankum Ropes and of Jacklifts Genesis capabilities. My compliments to all three businesses.
It’s always great to practice in your yard. Practicing will never make you perfect but it will always make you better. I like these videos. Maybe a block of wood between the rim and the sling so when it comes over and down it will keep the sling away from the fender as much as possible.
Yes it should work.
No it's not hard to understand.
Much love and blessings to all ❤️
Stay safe everyone 🤘😎
Always good to see grumpy and learn some things
Thanks!
That old practice bus is the best thing you may have ever bought Casey.Much respect from New Zealand.
Great way to learn and see how physics and geometry work together.
Beautifully Done, Casy
The Casey LaDelle "If they told you 'x', they were wrong" channel.
You might never have said you are good at what you are doing but that look really smooth. Mad respect for all who keep practicing and learning new techniques in their job.
Enjoy your videos, educational, instructive, almost live, no injuries! GRUMMPY!!.. ya got ta keep a closer eye on the boy. Thanks for sharing.
That second go round was flawless. Practice makes perfect
Good morning Casey you are proof practice makes perfect and shows why you are one of the best at what you do
Very nice teaching form Casey! Thanks.
Once you had it all rigged up and I saw it, I kinda figured it would work.
Before you cut to Grumpy, when you said you were going to get somneone very special to give their thoughts on all of this, I thought you were going to go get Riley to double check your work 🤣
I thought it was going to be Rancher Rick.
Yes, Rancher Rick is a hoot ! He even taught Casey a thing or two!
Coming back from California last week on I-5. North of Sacramento traffic suddenly slowed. A semi was getting pulled out of the ditch on the right side of the road. It appeared that all the equipment was in the ditch or on the shoulder, not in the lane of travel at all. However, all traffic slowed and moved to the left lane. I thought of Casey as I drove by.
Wow. That was a pretty cool setup Casey. Glad you tried it again the second time with the setup on the wheel to the outside.
You don't get good by sitting on your butt you get good by doing and trying. They also say practice makes perfect but every body knows nothing is perfect just reasonably close to it. Good work Casey
Good Explanation as you work.
In the army we always have room available, or at least we train that way. Well back the wrecker perpendicular to the rolled vehicle and then use the main winch to right the rolled vehicle (using a chain from the upside wheels) and use the trucks overhead crane to “catch” the vehicle at the tipping point and let it down onto the wheels nice and easy. Overall, there aren’t any side loads. That’s peacetime. If bullets are flying, you’ll get guys that hook up the winch (same right angle orientation) and drive-pull to right the vehicle to let it slam and bounce on the wheels. It’s a much faster rig, limiting your exposure to the bad guys.
Overall, nice job with the multiple part rigging! You have much more equipment available on one truck than we typically do on those 8-wheel Oshkosh HEMTTs.
Wow!! Good job rigging on that bus!!!
The LaDelle Landing.
One of my favorite Casey sayings, "So if any one says.... They're wrong."😅😂😂
The second time was a charm Casey. I think the sling would have been fine and no damage to fender. Great tutorial practice video. Hello Grumpy!
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. This is exactly why you try stuff to work out any bugs beforehand.
Fascinating to watch you researching your craft.
Hey Casey at timestamp 29:58 for the first time it was pretty darn good ...... yes the more you do it the better you will get
Good job Casey!
Your explanations before the pull helped me a lot in understanding your plan. Thank you! It's nice to see an expert practicing.
Good morning, Casey! I enjoy your learning/teaching school bus roll-over, not that I will ever be tasked with this, BUT it sure is fun watching you work, thinking OUT LOUD and creating some cool video for YT.
Casey, you are a natural promoter for Zacklift and Yankum Ropes. Keep on promoting!
Judging by some of the comments, I think I'm the only one commenting before finishing the video, LOL. I feel that it will work fabulously but you will get a little twist on the frame and the ass end will come down a little harder than the front, but it will work. The comments I'm reading tell me I'm probably wrong and that it worked very well according to plan.
Petition to call this rigging "Grumpy Style"
I hope Alan is going to buy you a new sheephead since it was his rope that broke it! He'll probably want the damaged one in exchange so he can show off how good the Yankum products are.
Practice makes perfect! I enjoy what you do because you always think it through. Thank you for sharing! 👌 😊
I’m sooo glad you were not hurt worse when you ripped your bag off. Damn, I can’t imagine the pain you felt.
Watching Casey practicing recovery is like watching your team turning double plays. You don't know exactly when you will need it, but when you do - your ready.
Great rigging job Casey. It’s so good to practice. You have some good ideas on how to make slight adjustments to make the recovery go even better. Very educational video. Thanks
Great job, Still smoother than the others I’ve seen.
I'm calling it the "ladelle layover"
That second pull got a spontaneous 'Beautiful' from me. Well done.
Might try strapping an 8 x 8 x 30 inch block top outside of front wheel--thinking that would give adequate fender clearance. For rigging I used to carry an entire box of specialized wood blocks I made over the years. I also attached plywood to one or both sides to prevent splitting the blocks. Really enjoy your channel.
One more thing to consider is to put a chain on the lift line where the hook is at the top of the bus that keeps the chain from sliding forward and off the front of the cab. I think you did a good job.
Absolutely freaking cool!!! Great job. ❤
Casey needs to write a book of this subject and sell it. Keep up the good practice, it makes perfect.
Mr Casey Nice rigging. Thanks for sharing and stay safe
Hello Casey. Number one I am not a tow trucker just a retired trucker now we are done with that BA BA. I watch a lot of towing and one thing I see them do is extend there under reach under there boom. I hit me why they are making a truss to keep the boom from bending.
Hiya mate, an under reach should never be used to support a top boom. The top boom is tested and rated to work independently with the load being put on the main pin at the base. By "supporting" the boom with an under reach, it creates a fulcrum causing the boom to bend at that point. Many heavy operators have learnt this the hard way. Hope this helps 👍
@@euan9454As for the boom being tested no really yes I even know what Rockwell is ! If I am WRONG OK but I am not stupid !! I think it would be hard to bend if you put the out reach up by the head pully. Just like a crane has cables for the holding the jib up by the head pully . Used to haul crane booms after the were test before the went out on job site. I use to help set them up and take them down. So I know a little about working loads. Its just like when hauling a lattice boom never chain it down must use straps.
@@vega1975 no need to take offence mate. I do heavy recovery as a profession and was only informing of industry standards. Trust me those booms bend like a branch in the wind if it's not operated in the appropriate way
@@euan9454 You met want to think about not talking down to people like there are stupid. Some of us do have common sense. Yeah just like crane booms in HIGH WINDS . I had to help pick the mess after a few them fell over. One operator lost his life and one lost his legs as well as the construction worker that got killed. The cranes were 5 stories.
@@vega1975 sorry if you felt I was talking down to you. Was not my intention, I was merely trying to answer your question. I fully understood your theory because it any other situation that's exactly what someone would do is try create a support for the load. But unfortunately with wreckers it just doesn't work. We had a bloke here lift a fire damage container and didn't account for the goods being wet from the fire department putting the fire out. Chain slipped whilst lifting it, causing the boom to shock load and fold in half
Its always a good day when no one gets any life threatening injuries. Hope you had that checked out. The way you described it didn't sound all too friendly
Could you place a wooden block on the rim to off set the grab line outboard of the fender? With another 4 inches the grab line may have cleared the fender but adding the block may be more fiddling than its worth?
Thank you for showing the second iteration of the "whoever thought of it first" technique. I am the farthest thing possible from a recovery person but your explanations are so clear that i think i understand what you are doing well enough to ask questions.
By the way, thank you for some of the towing tips you showed over the last while, i had occaision to use my pickup to unstuck several vehicles the last snowstorm we had and I would not have been as successful with out the knowledge I've gained watching you.
The hat cam does surprisingly well when you look into the sun, on the other hand, it shortens Grumpy!
Two suggestions. I don't know how possible they would be but here you are. Could the slight movement the bus does before it gets it bite in the rollback be reduced. And second could a horizontal support be placed on the fender to spread the weight across the body when the truck is back on its wheels but not on the ground yet. Love your video's.
If you keep this up, you're going to be able to say that you're good at this Casey!! lol That's a man that takes his work seriously right there!
Regarding the catch line on the left front wheel: could you put a wood block between the wheel and line, spacing it out 4 or 6 inches and completely missing the fender as the bus lands on the ground?
That's exactly what l was thinking. lf for some reason a chain wasn't available it would be a great way to protect the soft sling and possibly the fender.
It is good to see Grumpy.
I would even add a dunnage block to that wheel sling to get it further from the fender.
- or catch off the bus body (choose one of the chassis rails)..
Very creative! Looks like it works well. I am wondering if connecting the catch line further back, say to the frame under the drivers seat, would make the catch work better. Also wondering if that would cause body damage or not. Not sure if connecting that far back is a good idea or not but I was wondering about that. Anyway, fun to watch.
My first job driving Tow Truck (Safe-T-Towing) Spokane Washington the owner would let us practice in the junk yard. Its great experience and the best class room.
Jerry had new equipment and didn't want it damaged. Good content 👌
Thanks Casey. I'm very impressed in how easily you did that, especially with you thinking on the go about the way to do it
Nice planning. It would have been cool to have a laser shot at the boom to see if it really moved or not. Wondering if using the under-reach on the ground as a stabilizer would make the operation safer.
The "Ladelle layover" brought to you by Casey.
One thing to think about is how would this work with a truck and trailer? I personally think for a truck and trailer you would most likely need a second wrecker depending on the trailer type and length... Shorter trailers probably wouldn't matter but longer 53 footers there may be an issue... Otherwise great work... I knew it would work all along... When you put your mind to it and you get it done... Sometimes not as smoothly as you may hope but the job always gets done in the end... Great work keep it up! Love the vids.
It wouldn’t work with a truck and trailer
@@CaseyLaDelle - now to get a junk tractor-trailer to show how not to do it. (or how it could be done) ..
jk..
Good one! Keep up the great work!
Quote Steve Morris Engines "Caution You May Learn Something Fromm Watching This" --
Bruce Cook tribute Roll over recovery!!
Casey, you ought to make a video on how to upright a TRACKED WHEELCHAIR...!!!!
Yes, while the "dummy mean guy" is still in it.
This has helped confirm my plan for a job. Square bin about 10’x 10’ by 23’ tall. Back up trailer 6’ away. Chain at 15’ height seam to two bolts. *as close to corners as I can get* Hook winch to center chain. Do same other side but to a loader tractor bucket. Put bucket up @12’ high. This is catch. As I winch it over the loader catches it. Just not positive the loader is strong enough if there is a lot of slack. Wildly varied claimed weight of entire bin. 3000 to 7000 lbs. As pivot point on trailer should be 6’ *strongest location , and heaviest per ft. if hard hit* under 18’ free. IF total unit under 5000 lbs. to dead lift. Should a loader rated 3000 lb dead lift to top height with at ground breaking lift 5400 lbs. *going from memory of someone else’s machine*. Should that be reasonable? There will be round posts on trailer. Once down to pull forward as trailer 32’.
The second Lift/Catch was surprisingly smoother and achieved a much better result. Only experience made the set up be as "simple" as it could be.
I am impressed by your exercise and practice sessions with the bus and the Zack Lift.
HAPPY SEE GRUMPY! Glad he was there give you some advise😉.
"It wouldn't of tore it"
Enjoyed the video! Happy you have learned to slow down a little to keep yourself safe. I could only imagine was scary not knowing how bad and knowing how bad it could of been.
Be Safe!
Keep Your Head Up! 👍
Good rigging Casey ! If i might suggest something, have you considered reversing your 2 lines ? The yellow line was a bit more offset than the blue line, so less of an issue on the fender. And moreover, if the blue line was doing the pulling, you would have a better angle to support the boom (wider angle between blue line and left side out rigger) my only worry would be that the 2 lines could infer with each other during the pulling. Tell me what you think of that !
Even if the boom didn't move at all sideway, if that bus was far away in the ditch, you would have a bigger sidepull, and you should get all the support on this boom as you can !
Very good rigging, sound methodology😊
Didn't you have the snatch blocks on the cab wall in the small tow? Pretty good job! Effective!
You could have used the front frame spring mount to catch? Try 2 was nice!