This is amazing, thank you so much for making this so clear, I've been looking for ages for how to do this but all the sources I found are so unclear and not explained well, your video is perfect at explaining everything. Thank you!!
Thank you for the kind words, it took me a lot of reading and effort to figure out just how simple the device truly is, the rest of the videos are coming promise.
You are building an induction motor . A good circuit to drive the motor is the " Ruby " amp based on the LM386 op amp on one of the forums Run Off Groove . You can use the Ruby to drive a Piezo which are commonly used as buzzers , speakers etc and whack one on the back of a humbucker. You also need around 30 ohms to drive the induction motor type you built as there is no relation to driving the output of a speaker to controlling a wound induction motor , and its not like you are dealing with tube output transformers , this is solid state and the impedance is not critical .
This is very cool and thank you for all of the work. It helped me learn a lot, first and foremost of that being I have no business trying to replicate this. I ordered a used schecter with sustainiac for $600. It’s awesome.
Thanks, I've been unable to replicate it and have it preform well, I honestly would grab a used guitar that had one, I will if one ever presents itself for sale to me. Why Lord can't a Kenny Hickey schecter appear before me for 300 bucks?
@@amateurism1 Because it’s a Kenny Hickey. You can find a used excellent condition C1 Schecter in Green for about $600 with nearly same exact specs or C-6 a with not quite the same specs for $400. Or whatever you did to save that $300 just do it 3 more times. I wish I wouldn’t have settled for so much crap and just waited. Although my best sounding and by far easiest to play guitar is 1999 Ibanez RG 570 that I thought I might try painting. It’s beat to hell but I just can’t do it. During the COVID lock down I learned I am no handyman. Pre Covid I had a screw driver. After lock down I had pneumatic impact drivers and useless projects that have stalled. Learned my limitations.
Thank you for this video! I want to make a stronger one, with a single neodymium magnet and bigger copper coil. Can I wind the wire directly on the magnet, with only borders on the side? Or do I need to prevent contact with the magnet with a plastic spool or something?
Hello, this is an interesting initiative of yours. However I noticed several possible problems with this design. You need to use much thicker wire, something like 0.2mm diameter or less. 42 gauge (AWG?) wire is way too thin, that is the stuff you have in a regular guitar pickup. Also, I think 8 ohms too low impedance. Maybe around 40ohms would be better, since you likely intend to run this off a 9v battery. Now, I also noticed you said you were using the middle pickup. This is a bad idea. You need to use the bridge pickup to max out the distance between the driver coil and the sensing pickup. This will minimize squealing.
I agree with all you say, but the wire gage, if I use that large of a diameter wire, the impedance/ DC resistance will be too low, I don't think you can wind 40 ohms with that large wire, unless you use like a mile of it and make the driver pickup huge. That is one reason why I chose the wire gage I did, to a degree. I could be wrong, I'll give your idea a try in my next vid, but I'm ultimately trying to match the impedence of the honeytone amp so I don't burn it up.
Yes of course, I just winged the numbers. But still thicker than 42 awg. 0.2 mm would be something like 32 awg if I recall correctly and you could get maybe around 8 ohms with that. So like I said, probably a thinner wire than that. I think the amp should be fine, SS circuits dont tend to be too picky with impedance as long as youre increasing it since you are lowering the current draw over the OPamp anyway. However If you go under the rated impedance youre basically shorting it more and more which will destroy it.
infectionsman I am reading between the lines now, the more winding the better, or so one would assume, I have some 30 ga stranded wire I can use, I'll add an 8 ohm resistor in the windings to get an appropriate DC resistance; I’ll do this in the driver pickup vid and see if that has more driving power,; that actually might work really good, thanks, sorry I didn't quite see you point until now. I must note, I was playing with the piece of steel and the 42 ga. Wire you saw in this vid, it's plenty strong to get the job done. I assume that I'll reach a point where a driver pickup gets too strong and negative affects are heard in music, we'll soon see.
It is possible to use 42 gauge and wind it to a higher impedance, but like I said it should be more efficient with an appropriate gauge. I dont know about the resistor, sounds counter intuitive.
@@amateurism1 The resistance of the Sustainiac driver is 2 ohms as discovered by TheScientificGuitarrist, which did reverse engineer the Sustainiac system.
Yes! Don’t let others hold you back, I initially was like, “a bass string has too much mass for this to work,” that thought is all the more reason to try it! You can try without any permanent modifications, let us know if it works, make a video for us with the results.
FERNANDES Sustainers or SUSTAINIAC do not remotely cost 1000 dollars. fun project, but youre needlessly destroying that guitar. Veyz makes a great sustainer custom to your specs for about 150.
@@13BURYMEINGREENWOOD13 show me where to get one then, you practically have to look for a used Fernandez guitar from the 90s and butcher it to get one. I tried one of those VEYZ's, I returned it, it didn't work, and there's was no customer support from that company. I tried reaching out to that guy for a month I, got nothing back from him, the eBay seller I bought it from was cool with me and gave me my money back however, nobody has asked or paid me to put one in their guitar after that, so that was my first and so far only experience with that unit. i'm not trying to argue with you, but I don't agree that they are very easy to come by, unless you buy that cheap one that didn't work for me.
@amateurism1 I'm sorry to hear that. I've had good luck wirh Veyz, but the reviews are definitely mixed. Youre right, option A find a used Fernandes, (which I see cheap on fleabag all the time) OR sustainiacs 90s ass website for around 300.
So... I have found that many guitar switches have very poor offness; look it up; it's a thing. You might need to invest in a different switch, the signal is bleeding from the driver amplifier to the bridge pickup though the switch. Keep in mind that those switches see a few millivolts and milliamps from the pickups when operated as they are designed to, put a 9v device on it and they no longer are in their intended range of operation. Most Gibson three position switches work well, but any 5 way or blade or PCB switch is not going to work. Is that the only problem you have?
I didn't really use a schematic so to say, there is only really a handful of possible integration techniques. I don't know if my suggestion regarding the switch helped. I'm using a 2w amp I bought off eBay for a cigar box amp. The driver (neck pickup) goes to the 2w amp speaker output, the bridge pickup goes to 2w amp input. With the 2w amp I can hear there driver via the bridge pickup though the switch, I may try an optocoupler.... But my driver pickup needs some work still before I try that.
Whatever we end up using as the driver pickup will need to be potted in wax. I use paraffin from the crafts store, candle wax is fine too. The enamel coating on the copper windings needs to be protected and held in place so they don't rub on things and each other.
Holy moly only 55 bucks! That wasn’t on eBay when I started this kind of sort of waste of time. Still need a driver pickup, is there a kit you know of that has the driver included? If yes, please let me (us) know. Agreed.
I agree, I can't it to work well enough to make further value added videos. I'll make a lessons leaned video soon and hopefully someone smarter than I can go farther or all the way.
This is amazing, thank you so much for making this so clear, I've been looking for ages for how to do this but all the sources I found are so unclear and not explained well, your video is perfect at explaining everything. Thank you!!
Thank you for the kind words, it took me a lot of reading and effort to figure out just how simple the device truly is, the rest of the videos are coming promise.
Love the vid.i mine mine almost the same. Cant got over the fact Peter Steele made a build video. Your voice is deep dude.
You are building an induction motor . A good circuit to drive the motor is the " Ruby " amp based on the LM386 op amp on one of the forums Run Off Groove . You can use the Ruby to drive a Piezo which are commonly used as buzzers , speakers etc and whack one on the back of a humbucker. You also need around 30 ohms to drive the induction motor type you built as there is no relation to driving the output of a speaker to controlling a wound induction motor , and its not like you are dealing with tube output transformers , this is solid state and the impedance is not critical .
your work is very good bro. please make a sustain coil pickup driver tutorial 🙏
I got to make a lessons learned video, I'm not as successful as I'd like you all to believe, stay tuned.
This is very cool and thank you for all of the work. It helped me learn a lot, first and foremost of that being I have no business trying to replicate this. I ordered a used schecter with sustainiac for $600. It’s awesome.
Thanks, I've been unable to replicate it and have it preform well, I honestly would grab a used guitar that had one, I will if one ever presents itself for sale to me. Why Lord can't a Kenny Hickey schecter appear before me for 300 bucks?
@@amateurism1 Because it’s a Kenny Hickey. You can find a used excellent condition C1 Schecter in Green for about $600 with nearly same exact specs or C-6 a with not quite the same specs for $400. Or whatever you did to save that $300 just do it 3 more times. I wish I wouldn’t have settled for so much crap and just waited. Although my best sounding and by far easiest to play guitar is 1999 Ibanez RG 570 that I thought I might try painting. It’s beat to hell but I just can’t do it. During the COVID lock down I learned I am no handyman. Pre Covid I had a screw driver. After lock down I had pneumatic impact drivers and useless projects that have stalled. Learned my limitations.
Thank you for this video! I want to make a stronger one, with a single neodymium magnet and bigger copper coil. Can I wind the wire directly on the magnet, with only borders on the side? Or do I need to prevent contact with the magnet with a plastic spool or something?
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Thank you for sharing your awesome job!
The first driver is correct but you need to change the wire gauge inorder to operate.
Hello, this is an interesting initiative of yours. However I noticed several possible problems with this design.
You need to use much thicker wire, something like 0.2mm diameter or less. 42 gauge (AWG?) wire is way too thin, that is the stuff you have in a regular guitar pickup.
Also, I think 8 ohms too low impedance. Maybe around 40ohms would be better, since you likely intend to run this off a 9v battery.
Now, I also noticed you said you were using the middle pickup. This is a bad idea. You need to use the bridge pickup to max out the distance between the driver coil and the sensing pickup. This will minimize squealing.
I agree with all you say, but the wire gage, if I use that large of a diameter wire, the impedance/ DC resistance will be too low, I don't think you can wind 40 ohms with that large wire, unless you use like a mile of it and make the driver pickup huge. That is one reason why I chose the wire gage I did, to a degree. I could be wrong, I'll give your idea a try in my next vid, but I'm ultimately trying to match the impedence of the honeytone amp so I don't burn it up.
Yes of course, I just winged the numbers. But still thicker than 42 awg. 0.2 mm would be something like 32 awg if I recall correctly and you could get maybe around 8 ohms with that. So like I said, probably a thinner wire than that. I think the amp should be fine, SS circuits dont tend to be too picky with impedance as long as youre increasing it since you are lowering the current draw over the OPamp anyway. However If you go under the rated impedance youre basically shorting it more and more which will destroy it.
infectionsman I am reading between the lines now, the more winding the better, or so one would assume, I have some 30 ga stranded wire I can use, I'll add an 8 ohm resistor in the windings to get an appropriate DC resistance; I’ll do this in the driver pickup vid and see if that has more driving power,; that actually might work really good, thanks, sorry I didn't quite see you point until now.
I must note, I was playing with the piece of steel and the 42 ga. Wire you saw in this vid, it's plenty strong to get the job done. I assume that I'll reach a point where a driver pickup gets too strong and negative affects are heard in music, we'll soon see.
It is possible to use 42 gauge and wind it to a higher impedance, but like I said it should be more efficient with an appropriate gauge. I dont know about the resistor, sounds counter intuitive.
@@amateurism1 The resistance of the Sustainiac driver is 2 ohms as discovered by TheScientificGuitarrist, which did reverse engineer the Sustainiac system.
For all that work, I would just buy the pickup set for about 300 bucks. I get rolling the project though. That's cool fun.
Any idea how to do this with a German kemo amplifier without a woofer?
ever tried on a bass? Should I give it a shot?
Yes! Don’t let others hold you back, I initially was like, “a bass string has too much mass for this to work,” that thought is all the more reason to try it! You can try without any permanent modifications, let us know if it works, make a video for us with the results.
FERNANDES Sustainers or SUSTAINIAC do not remotely cost 1000 dollars. fun project, but youre needlessly destroying that guitar. Veyz makes a great sustainer custom to your specs for about 150.
@@13BURYMEINGREENWOOD13 show me where to get one then, you practically have to look for a used Fernandez guitar from the 90s and butcher it to get one. I tried one of those VEYZ's, I returned it, it didn't work, and there's was no customer support from that company. I tried reaching out to that guy for a month I, got nothing back from him, the eBay seller I bought it from was cool with me and gave me my money back however, nobody has asked or paid me to put one in their guitar after that, so that was my first and so far only experience with that unit. i'm not trying to argue with you, but I don't agree that they are very easy to come by, unless you buy that cheap one that didn't work for me.
@amateurism1 I'm sorry to hear that. I've had good luck wirh Veyz, but the reviews are definitely mixed. Youre right, option A find a used Fernandes, (which I see cheap on fleabag all the time) OR sustainiacs 90s ass website for around 300.
wow its nice
Does It works on B and high E strings ?
I have made a pickup driver, but the sound of the vibration penetrates the bridge pickup, why?
Is the driver and bridge pickup connected in any way to the pickup selector switch?
Yes..(ruby fetzer)..
So... I have found that many guitar switches have very poor offness; look it up; it's a thing. You might need to invest in a different switch, the signal is bleeding from the driver amplifier to the bridge pickup though the switch. Keep in mind that those switches see a few millivolts and milliamps from the pickups when operated as they are designed to, put a 9v device on it and they no longer are in their intended range of operation. Most Gibson three position switches work well, but any 5 way or blade or PCB switch is not going to work.
Is that the only problem you have?
what pre-amp schematic you used?
I didn't really use a schematic so to say, there is only really a handful of possible integration techniques. I don't know if my suggestion regarding the switch helped. I'm using a 2w amp I bought off eBay for a cigar box amp. The driver (neck pickup) goes to the 2w amp speaker output, the bridge pickup goes to 2w amp input. With the 2w amp I can hear there driver via the bridge pickup though the switch, I may try an optocoupler.... But my driver pickup needs some work still before I try that.
Potted? Is that waxed?
Whatever we end up using as the driver pickup will need to be potted in wax. I use paraffin from the crafts store, candle wax is fine too. The enamel coating on the copper windings needs to be protected and held in place so they don't rub on things and each other.
@@amateurism1 goes to show - in all my research Not 1 article said to do that... 🤔 Unless it did.
Thank you for the tip!
Dude just buy one off ebay, what waste of material and lack of search
Holy moly only 55 bucks! That wasn’t on eBay when I started this kind of sort of waste of time. Still need a driver pickup, is there a kit you know of that has the driver included? If yes, please let me (us) know.
Agreed.
waste of time
I agree, I can't it to work well enough to make further value added videos. I'll make a lessons leaned video soon and hopefully someone smarter than I can go farther or all the way.