Who decided witches need to fit into a pidgeon hole? In any one day, im a green witch, im a kitchen witch, im an earth witch, a moon witch, a planetary witch and the list goes onnn. 100% agree with this we do not need labels, we just need to make our practice our own. If you try and fit in a box you are limiting your magic so very much, so lets not do this, a witch is a witch nuff said 🥰
I hadn't thought of that, but I feel you've got a really good point there. I don't like what it says about the pagan economy, but that doesn't make it wrong.
Exactly. A label doesn't help us to be anything more than we are, I feel. I mean, use it if you want to, but don't shrink oneself down to fit a pigeon hole.
Yeah, I'm going to waffle more next time! Definitely missing the waffle. Currently trying to figure out how UA-cam Shorts work as I want to do a "Weed Witchcraft" series of super short little things.
I'm really glad to see you here! Don't get distracted by the fluffy nonsense out there, and if you want a great witchcraft content creator, I REALLY rate @Hearthwitch - her stuff is well researched, well presented and always accurate.
My focus seems to be astrology, fixed stars, Tarot readings and Egyptian iconography. I live alone in splendid solitude ‘home on the range’ in the high, plains desert. No one asks me anything. I do love coming here for the company and the contact with others of these different Paths.
@@GrumpyOldCrone thanks so much. It is beautiful and dark and no obstructions in the view. I am crippled now so I cannot visit my further trees and my old circle as much as I used to. Also the astrology occupies much of my time indoors. I also work a lot with fixed stars so observational astronomy is great out here. It really is ‘my’ place in so many ways. Altho I started , formally, with a large group of pagans when I lived in the city, my associations dwindled and I chose to walk my own somewhat eccentric path. I’ve been doing astrology most of my life, beginning when I was 12 and enormously disappointed to find out I was Libra, the only abstract in the Zodiac. I’ve progressed quite a bit since then 😸 I have a friend who says ‘ Some people have good luck, some people have bad luck but I have weird luck.’ He’s a New Moon person. For me, I finally made my own matching statement “ I have ominous luck.’ I’m a Full Moon person, I find Life Path has been a Cosmic scavenger hunt, and I do best when I follow the omens ( providing I recognize them!) Thank you for your kind reply. I rarely see or speak to others of the community, so to speak.
I laughed so hard I nearly choked on my tea! This was brilliant! 🤣 When I first got into paganism in the (very) early 2000s, I'm sure there weren't all these labels and subcategories. There were several traditions of course, like Gardnerian & Alexandrian Wicca, Asatru, Druidism, ... and Scott Cunningham's solitary Wicca was a big thing at the time, but other than that? Not really. As someone has already pointed out, it might well have to do with people wanting to sell stuff that this micro-labelling exists, the same is happening in fashion and lifestyle (just look at all those internet "aesthetics" that require you to dress a certain way, listen to certain music or read certain books, as well as decorate your home a certain way.) It's all consumerist bollocks. 🙄
Somebody else in the comments made a comment about it being about marketing, ultimately. I think you've got an excellent point! Consumerist bollocks is very much my point of view!
I think it’s very personal. Labeling-culture has taken away the flow of discovery, journey and exploration… I was a millions things but didn’t know, and there are no words about me on the internet about my years finding myself from 13 to 20. I thought when I was 18-19 I wanted to join a coven, but I actually didn’t. I heard my sister talked about the ritual to get into the coven and I was like damn. I dodged one there. I would never. If people want to, go ahead. But I am a lone wolf not willing to go to those lengths just to be accepted. For the sake of Wiccan privacy I won’t go into details. That advice !! Annie 💜💜💜💜 That is such a Wiccan response 💜
Some covens are... a whole thing. But some are truly lovely. I do yearn for the company of other witches, sometimes. But then I remember I'm so grumpy that maybe they'd hate me!
I land in the middle on labels. I agree all the silly labels people come up with are unnecessary. And, IMO, self-aggrandizing. If one wants a label for the practice they've cobbled together, just be honest: "Eclectic" or simply "Solitary" is enough. However, labels are necessary when it comes to actual witchcraft traditions. Most are unrelated to one another and differ widely. Stregheria has nothing to do with Brujeria and neither has anything to do with Obiya, and so on.
Yes, that's very, very true. The labelling I have an issue with is the whole "I am a Green Witch" bollocks. Fine, but why does someone need a label for something that is quiet and personal to the individual? But traditions, YES. That is important, and you need to know what you are doing in a lot of those traditions. Personally I'm eternally amused by the fighting between "traditional" and "folk". Whatever floats the metaphorical eggshell boat, I guess. Which is a long way of saying, thanks for the comment - I agree !00%!
I can understand the idea and power of not identifying as a witch. I mean for long periods of time and even currently there's a distinction in many cultures between a witch and a person who uses magic for the benefit of their community. Be they called healers, wise woman or any number of other titles. I love that in this community globally there's such variety in practice and titles. My family has been all over this country (USA) I know of French creole influences and believe family was known as healers, Appalachian influences and they were known as healers and practitioners of granny magic or the local wise woman, a little influence from the Ozarks where (idk what they were called during this period) and moved to Washington state where they used the knowledge being passed down plus integrated indigenous practices and herbalism and we're called healers then. I don't think during most of that time they were known as witch except for my grandfather's ability for water witching which I think was passed down from his grandfather but I can't pin that one down because he was on his own from a very young age. I remember him teaching me and hearing about his great reputation as a water Witcher. This wasn't meant to be a rebuttal or contradiction but more of a "yes and". Yes there can be power in calling yourself a witch and I would never take that away from you. Also I hold space for and honor those who came before and who currently don't identify with the title witch who are still practicing magic and making an impact for themselves, their families and communities. Thank you for this video. I enjoyed it
I really love other people's views when they differ :-). I rant on the videos, but in reality I love to talk about this stuff. I find Appalachian folk magic fascinating. I have zero right to it, but it is incredibly cool, and so rooted in the land. I've just started listening to Tracy Borman's "Witches" (a historical book about the Belvoir Witch Trials) and she makes exactly the same point as you do re: titles and practice.
I think we all have the right to call ourselves whatever we feel works best! I definitely love "witch" or "crone", but language is dense and wonderful and there are many words available!
I feel, really strongly, that we should be able to pick what works for us best. And if that's no label at all, then that's fine! I've got so many interests that calling myself just one thing feels really weird and wrong. I started on this path without a label, and am very happy to continue the same way!
I think that as we get older labels or whatever are very unimportant personally, I have never been concerned about labels however, I do know what it feels like she want to fit into some thing and if somebody wants to label to theirselves, then they need to do that I initially thought this was kind of a cute channel.. I think mostly because people find it funny to watch an old lady cussing like a sailor and just FYI I am an old lady as well.. you label yourself by saying you’re an old crone. In the witchcraft group for people who have been here for many years it’s just like everything else. Sometime it becomes popular. Sometime it’s not. Your videos well some of them are comical I really start to think wow harboring all of this animosity towards subscription boxes or ads on Facebook ….. kind of sad and harboring anything or going off on things that don’t matter is anger and I would never want that inside.
Who decided witches need to fit into a pidgeon hole? In any one day, im a green witch, im a kitchen witch, im an earth witch, a moon witch, a planetary witch and the list goes onnn. 100% agree with this we do not need labels, we just need to make our practice our own. If you try and fit in a box you are limiting your magic so very much, so lets not do this, a witch is a witch nuff said 🥰
PREACH! (or actually, maybe not, because those street corner guys are kind of yucky...). I AGREE!
I feel like the labeling is also tied into the consumerism. Not for everyone but certainly companies use it to their advantage.
I hadn't thought of that, but I feel you've got a really good point there. I don't like what it says about the pagan economy, but that doesn't make it wrong.
I hate this modern trend of labelling everyone. Relax, people, and just be.
Exactly. A label doesn't help us to be anything more than we are, I feel. I mean, use it if you want to, but don't shrink oneself down to fit a pigeon hole.
I think 'whatever bollocks witch' is my new title. 😂
I mean... I'm right there with you, if I'm being honest with myself....
Yip mine too 😂
Best witchy makeup tip ever. Especially in an episode that doesn't have a witchy makeup tip in it.
Thankyou. I will die on the hill of "Tim Curry was insanely hot". He has now entered the land of "National Treasure" I feel.
I enjoy you longer videos! Feel free to waffle on!
Yeah, I'm going to waffle more next time! Definitely missing the waffle. Currently trying to figure out how UA-cam Shorts work as I want to do a "Weed Witchcraft" series of super short little things.
I’m a new witch and I’m so glad I found you!!
I'm really glad to see you here! Don't get distracted by the fluffy nonsense out there, and if you want a great witchcraft content creator, I REALLY rate @Hearthwitch - her stuff is well researched, well presented and always accurate.
@@GrumpyOldCrone thanks!!
Also, i love your longer videos, don’t sell yourself short! *badumtsh!*
I think the next one will be back to normal length. Plus.... I have to get the usage out of my "Here Comes the Positive Bit" jingle...
My focus seems to be astrology, fixed stars, Tarot readings and Egyptian iconography. I live alone in splendid solitude ‘home on the range’ in the high, plains desert. No one asks me anything. I do love coming here for the company and the contact with others of these different Paths.
OMG, that sounds amazing
@@GrumpyOldCrone thanks so much. It is beautiful and dark and no obstructions in the view. I am crippled now so I cannot visit my further trees and my old circle as much as I used to. Also the astrology occupies much of my time indoors. I also work a lot with fixed stars so observational astronomy is great out here. It really is ‘my’ place in so many ways. Altho I started , formally, with a large group of pagans when I lived in the city, my associations dwindled and I chose to walk my own somewhat eccentric path. I’ve been doing astrology most of my life, beginning when I was 12 and enormously disappointed to find out I was Libra, the only abstract in the Zodiac. I’ve progressed quite a bit since then 😸 I have a friend who says ‘ Some people have good luck, some people have bad luck but I have weird luck.’ He’s a New Moon person. For me, I finally made my own matching statement “ I have ominous luck.’ I’m a Full Moon person, I find Life Path has been a Cosmic scavenger hunt, and I do best when I follow the omens ( providing I recognize them!) Thank you for your kind reply. I rarely see or speak to others of the community, so to speak.
I laughed so hard I nearly choked on my tea! This was brilliant! 🤣 When I first got into paganism in the (very) early 2000s, I'm sure there weren't all these labels and subcategories. There were several traditions of course, like Gardnerian & Alexandrian Wicca, Asatru, Druidism, ... and Scott Cunningham's solitary Wicca was a big thing at the time, but other than that? Not really. As someone has already pointed out, it might well have to do with people wanting to sell stuff that this micro-labelling exists, the same is happening in fashion and lifestyle (just look at all those internet "aesthetics" that require you to dress a certain way, listen to certain music or read certain books, as well as decorate your home a certain way.) It's all consumerist bollocks. 🙄
Somebody else in the comments made a comment about it being about marketing, ultimately. I think you've got an excellent point! Consumerist bollocks is very much my point of view!
@@GrumpyOldCrone *shakes fist at capitalism* Down with the consumerist bollocks! Down with it, I say.
Right behind you, waving a flag!
I think it’s very personal. Labeling-culture has taken away the flow of discovery, journey and exploration… I was a millions things but didn’t know, and there are no words about me on the internet about my years finding myself from 13 to 20.
I thought when I was 18-19 I wanted to join a coven, but I actually didn’t. I heard my sister talked about the ritual to get into the coven and I was like damn. I dodged one there. I would never. If people want to, go ahead. But I am a lone wolf not willing to go to those lengths just to be accepted.
For the sake of Wiccan privacy I won’t go into details.
That advice !! Annie 💜💜💜💜 That is such a Wiccan response 💜
Some covens are... a whole thing. But some are truly lovely. I do yearn for the company of other witches, sometimes. But then I remember I'm so grumpy that maybe they'd hate me!
@@GrumpyOldCrone me too. And then a think. Well . If I where first member and the oldest I would not be so grumpy 🍄🖤😂
Absolutely on point!! 👏👏👏
Thank you!
ahhhhhh love your attitude....if I get asked What kind of witch I am from now on Im saying a Bollocks Witch..lol
I think I need a T-shirt with that on....
I land in the middle on labels. I agree all the silly labels people come up with are unnecessary. And, IMO, self-aggrandizing. If one wants a label for the practice they've cobbled together, just be honest: "Eclectic" or simply "Solitary" is enough.
However, labels are necessary when it comes to actual witchcraft traditions. Most are unrelated to one another and differ widely. Stregheria has nothing to do with Brujeria and neither has anything to do with Obiya, and so on.
Yes, that's very, very true. The labelling I have an issue with is the whole "I am a Green Witch" bollocks. Fine, but why does someone need a label for something that is quiet and personal to the individual? But traditions, YES. That is important, and you need to know what you are doing in a lot of those traditions. Personally I'm eternally amused by the fighting between "traditional" and "folk". Whatever floats the metaphorical eggshell boat, I guess.
Which is a long way of saying, thanks for the comment - I agree !00%!
l love your longer videos ,you are excellent company.
Thankyou so much! That's really kind :-)
I just subscribed.. you made this old crone giggle and giggle lol.. maybe even a cackle or 2
Welcome fellow crone!
Haha that intro was magnificent Annie🖤
Thankyou!
I can understand the idea and power of not identifying as a witch. I mean for long periods of time and even currently there's a distinction in many cultures between a witch and a person who uses magic for the benefit of their community. Be they called healers, wise woman or any number of other titles. I love that in this community globally there's such variety in practice and titles.
My family has been all over this country (USA) I know of French creole influences and believe family was known as healers, Appalachian influences and they were known as healers and practitioners of granny magic or the local wise woman, a little influence from the Ozarks where (idk what they were called during this period) and moved to Washington state where they used the knowledge being passed down plus integrated indigenous practices and herbalism and we're called healers then.
I don't think during most of that time they were known as witch except for my grandfather's ability for water witching which I think was passed down from his grandfather but I can't pin that one down because he was on his own from a very young age. I remember him teaching me and hearing about his great reputation as a water Witcher.
This wasn't meant to be a rebuttal or contradiction but more of a "yes and".
Yes there can be power in calling yourself a witch and I would never take that away from you. Also I hold space for and honor those who came before and who currently don't identify with the title witch who are still practicing magic and making an impact for themselves, their families and communities.
Thank you for this video. I enjoyed it
I really love other people's views when they differ :-). I rant on the videos, but in reality I love to talk about this stuff. I find Appalachian folk magic fascinating. I have zero right to it, but it is incredibly cool, and so rooted in the land. I've just started listening to Tracy Borman's "Witches" (a historical book about the Belvoir Witch Trials) and she makes exactly the same point as you do re: titles and practice.
Oooh well, i’m an insomniac, bollocks witch for sure!
I feel there may be a mini-coven in the making here...
I don't call myself a witch, I call myself a seer or caster. Others call me healer or bush dr
I think we all have the right to call ourselves whatever we feel works best! I definitely love "witch" or "crone", but language is dense and wonderful and there are many words available!
Bless You! that's what is for dinner tonight. Fish Cakes. Thank you was asking the universe xxx
I'm hungry now....
I really hate the word 'spiritual'. I mean, wth does it represent?😂 Tina.
Exactly. It's wanting to hedge your bets, I think. I'm personally all for nailing my colours to the tree. Only not with a nail, because I'm a Gaian.
Thanks, I hate being labelled a witch or anything else. Thanks for the tip on how to answer
I feel, really strongly, that we should be able to pick what works for us best. And if that's no label at all, then that's fine! I've got so many interests that calling myself just one thing feels really weird and wrong. I started on this path without a label, and am very happy to continue the same way!
I think that as we get older labels or whatever are very unimportant personally, I have never been concerned about labels however, I do know what it feels like she want to fit into some thing and if somebody wants to label to theirselves, then they need to do that I initially thought this was kind of a cute channel.. I think mostly because people find it funny to watch an old lady cussing like a sailor and just FYI I am an old lady as well.. you label yourself by saying you’re an old crone. In the witchcraft group for people who have been here for many years it’s just like everything else. Sometime it becomes popular. Sometime it’s not. Your videos well some of them are comical I really start to think wow harboring all of this animosity towards subscription boxes or ads on Facebook ….. kind of sad and harboring anything or going off on things that don’t matter is anger and I would never want that inside.
Thanks for your input.