I am over 70 and just getting into Ebiking. First thing I noticed was the pressure on my hands, shoulders, and on my butt. So first mod was as you have done, raising the handlebars as high as the cabling would allow, and second was to put the biggest seat on the bike that I could find. Got vids showing that on YT as well, and thank you for sharing your experiences, we all benefit!
I installed both of these upgrades and would like to note that to get more brake cable length I rerouted the front brake from the front of the forks to the rear. Much more cable length that way.
Nice video. This is the only video that I have seen regarding these parts where the bearing set adjustment was even mentioned. It has to be done as part of the installation.
Glad you liked it! I am constantly trying to tell people that the top bolt tensions the bearing and please don’t over tighten it. I have, unfortunately, heard stories from some that have had issues because they didn’t understand the process. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the video and links, It made my upgrades much easier. I liked the stem riser and adjustable neck so much I bought one for my Wife. Much more comfortable for both of us. Thanks again. 👍
You must be a Teacher.....Thank You so much for your detailed assembly....I am a new Sub. My new bike will be here next month (Bolton Blackbird). I comes with the adjuster, but the extra riser is new to me and might be needed. Without you guys doing videos I would never have known.
Just from personal experience with installing a stem riser, I would suggest iaking off one of the original stem spacers (that sit under the stem) and test the fit of the stem riser. I found that I had to replace one of the original 20mm spacers with an 8mm spacer. You want as good of a fit in this high stress point as possible.
Thank you for the excellent instruction for this modification. I followed your directions and used identical parts for my Himiway and the hand problem is resolved. Thanks again. Wally
My bike is supposed to be delivered in about 3 weeks, and I am very thankful for your videos. I feel that I am well prepared to accept the bike, and then add on the various accessories. Thank you for all your help!!
Excellent idea! I usually install a setback seat post and 10-12 inch riser handlebars to get that 'pedal- forward position' for comfort. That normally requires recabling the brakes and shifters along with wiring for the display and so forth. I may have to see if this works for me, providing I can get the seat low enough and the proper setback.
Great tutorial, I’ve been watching your videos as of late and appreciate the work you put into them. I just ordered the black and white bikes for my wife and I and we can’t wait to get them. The new riding position looks very comfortable, I changed the stem, riser, and bars on my mountain bike to achieve a more comfortable riding position as well. Happy riding 😊
Great video, and although I haven't received my Himiway step-thru yet, I'm trying to gather information which may be helpful at some point after it arrives! I've watched a few of your video's today, and you're knowledge on these issues I find are precise and on the money, so it's very much appreciated, sharing this with us. Thank you!
Great review, exactly what I did to my e-bike. Made a great difference when riding, now the hand pain is mostly gone and the ride is more comfortable. I see just about everything is available on amazon for e-bike modifications.
Totally agree! Another good place to get bike parts from is Aliexpress.com. prices are sometimes half of Amazon. But the two orders I have made took a long time to get here. (the first took a month and the second took two months) You have to be patient.
GREAT EXPLANATION! Still waiting for my Himiway to arrive but will definitely purchase the first two items as I want to sit upright while riding. I love the step by step explanation! Great DIY!
Go for it! We love the change. For my wife’s bike we only did the adjustable stem, she is 5’ 6” and didn’t need the extra height. I am 6’ 3” and I added the riser. Let us know how it goes.
@@TinkeringTurtle very upset since the screw going into the stem was not long enough when i did what you said. I did not use the spacer and just left everything the way it was...Thanks
You will have to provide more info. The new screw comes with the riser. If you only upgraded to the adjustable stem, you will be using the original bolt. I had no issues with either install...
I used the riser and the stem from Amazon that was in your link. The screw was too short that came with the new riser when I used the spacer like you did for some reason. So what I had to was leave the spacers as they were and it worked fine. My brake cable seems to be ok but it is a bit tight. I am pleased with the added height of my handlebars and thank you for your informative videos. Have a good day sir
Nice video, but shouldn't the riser be installed just a little bit lower because it appears that the upper bolt is too high to clamp down tight like the lower bolt? Maybe it would be better if 1 more spacer is removed. please see 5:30 on the video.
Great video Tim. About how tall are you that I have a idea how many spacers to use I don’t want to keep taking things apart. Do you have better control of the bike with stem raiser. Also how is it on bumpier trails.
I am 6’ 3” tall. I haven’t had any issues with the bike on bumpy trails. I feel like I am in complete control of the bike with or without this upgrade, so no change. I hope this helps!
It looks like your final picture of the larger adjustable stem is on the bike the opposite way. I take it you can put these on either way and if it is drifting too far forward you can turn it around and make it come closer to you. One way it gets farther from you and the other it gets closer, but straight up is the same both ways.
No, the stem is on the correct way in my video. I am not certain what the steering dynamics would be if you reversed the stem to bring the handle bars closer to you. And because of that I cannot recommend it.
@@TinkeringTurtle You didnt use the last stem in your video you just showed a picture of it. I just got the part and if you put it on the same way the original one was put on it comes closer to you not going farther away from you. According to the picture you showed someone put it on the other way.
Again, I don’t know how the steering dynamics would be affected if you put on that stem backwards. It is meant to be installed so it bends down away from the rider. Installing it backwards could affect how the bike steers and might be dangerous. I don’t know where you are seeing it installed backwards, but after reviewing my video the images I show have it installed correctly.
I looked at the video again, and I think you are referring to the two bolts that attach the adjustable stem to the steering tube. on the stem I used they were on the back closer to the rider. On the one you chose, the bolts are on the front of the bike away from the rider. That is just a difference in where they put the bolts. The Stem is still supposed to be installed so that it leans forward away from the rider. The location of the two bolts do not necessarily dictate the orientation of the stem.
Unfortunately I can only do videos on subjects that I am versed in. I don’t have any experience adjusting the shocks. Sorry. My wife and I don’t seem to be having issues with our shocks....
I don’t think so. While it might not be as strong as the normal configuration. I have jumped curbs pulling up pretty hard without issue. I have used these for years and have never had a problem. I do, mostly, just cruise around and don’t put a lot of pressure or tension on the handlebar system. It has never loosened or failed in any way.
The difference in the stems is the length is the length of the “neck”. the 110 is 20mm longer (3/4”), so it comes down to cable length. In my experience both should work with the cruiser. But be aware cable lengths can vary.
When I tightened everything up and held the tire between my legs from the front and twisted the handlebars the whole stem assembly moves. I can’t tighten it any more.
Are you tightening the top bolt, or the side bolts? The top bolt is not intended to be tightened down all the way, if you do you can damage the system. It is only used for setting the tension. The side bolts tighten up the system. Please rewatch and make sure you understand the system. Maybe post pics in the Himiway Facebook groups so I can see what your doing.
Excellent, like all of your videos. I've watched several, and especially the one in which you talk about all of the mods you've made. I'm interested in the Cruiser and the one thing I noticed you didn't change were the mechanical disc brakes. Does that mean you're satisfied with them and didn't feel the need to switch to hydraulic?
I like that they are easy to work on. Once you get through the break-in period, you don’t have to adjust them as much. And they work fine for my area. (relatively flat) Full hydraulic brakes are very different to maintain. There is less adjustment and if there is a problem you will likely be dealing with bleeding the oil or something along those lines. Hydraulic calipers would be a compromise. I might try them in the future, but the mechanicals are doing their job for now.
Great video again! You’re a huge help! But after adding the adjustable stem I need to change the angle for the lcd screen. Any idea what kind of screw is on that?
Thanks for this. Having had wrist surgery I really way to take weight off my hands. But why / when did the system change? When I bought my ebike, I was stunned to find that I couldn’t raise the stem like I could on my old 10 speed
Thanks for posting. What's your height, feet/inches. I can see this will be good addition to the bike in a more relaxed upright cruiser position. Use to ride motorcycles in my younger years. Those days are gone with my legs, and have been looking at ebikes for a while.
So I may need some advice. I installed an adjustable fixture… and there’s a lot of play on the forks. Do I need to press down on the shocks when I put on the extension? I have a zebra.
Good morning. It is likely that you don’t have enough spacers under the adjustable stem. The system is predicated on having that 1/8” sub flush gap I spoke of in the video. So you need to make sure that the fork cylinder that comes up thru the head tube is sub flush of the adjustable stem before installing the top bolt. You can also watch this video, where I add a riser and adjustable stem to the Zebra. time stamp 8:44 ua-cam.com/video/r1FHM6d6vic/v-deo.html
One of the bolts on the original stem was stripped when I tried to unscrew it. Is there any way to get it off since a hex key can't grab anything now to unscrew it and since it's recessed I can't use anything else to get it off. Thanks!
Are you tightening the top bolt, or the side bolts? The top bolt is not intended to be tightened down all the way, if you do you can damage the system. It is only used for setting the tension. The side bolts tighten up the system. Please re-watch and make sure you understand what each set of bolts does.
@@TinkeringTurtle I tightened the top first and then the sides like in the video. I did it and re-did it like 4 times and the same results. Weird and frustrating!
Hi Tim! Thanks for all of your work and insight on the Himiway! I have a question regarding the stem. Can the regular Himiway stem be removed and reinstalled 180 degrees so that the stem extension is toward the seat rather than the front of the bike? Thanks again.
Mechanically I would say yes. But I am uncertain how the steering dynamics would be affected. An alternative would be to use some suspension to move the seat forward and an adjustable stem to bring the handle bars back. amzn.to/2HAseAM
Hey I got the same exact riser and everything but I noticed even after tightening it, my stem still slides when I steer. Like the stem would move to the right. I tried alot of times
My best guess is that the riser is bottoming out on the top of the fork stem. You need to verify that you have around an 1/8” of clearance so when you tension the top bolt it takes up all the slop/looseness. (do not over tighten the top bolt)
Hi Mr. Turtle. We purchased the stem riser and stem, but we could not get the riser to tighten the wheel, it remains loose... We followed your directions in the wonderful video, but no luck. Any advice? Thanks in advance.
Are you tightening the top bolt, or the side bolts? The top bolt is not intended to be tightened down all the way, if you do you can damage the system. It is only used for setting the tension. The side bolts tighten up the system. Please rewatch and make sure you understand the system. Also post pics in the Himiway Facebook groups so I can see what your doing.
@@TinkeringTurtle Thank you for replying. We may have over tightened it- and when you say, “damaged the system” what part or parts would need replacement? We tightened the sides and since we still had movement, we tightened the stem.
if you over tighten the top bolt you can damage the star nut that is press fit into the steerer tube of the forks. But that shouldn’t affect the side to side issue you are seeing. Did you get a bike stem or riser that fit a 1 1/8” steerer tube? Tightening the side bolts should clamp down on the steerer tube and stop the rotation that you are seeing.
I have used both the wake stem/riser and the fomtor. Both work well. I haven’t had any issues with either. I, personally, prefer the flexibility of the adjustable stem/riser over the one-piece fomtor. This combination allows for more adjustment for height during installation.
With regard to the riser, will all the risers on say...Amazon, fit the adjustable stem? The reason I ask, is the one showing in your links seems to be 'Currently unavailable' but upon looking, there are other brands/models, but knowing if fitment is correct is the issue?
Thank you for your informative videos. Hoping you can help. My Himiway is suffering an error code 30. When I perform the steps suggested on page 13 of the manual, no luck. No accident occurred, nothing like that. I was pedaling in first gear up a hill in PAS1 and the motor just stopped working. Had to pedal the bike 5 miles to get home. It was a good/tiring workout, and now hoping for an easy fix. I'm waiting for Himiway to respond, but in the meantime, can you help?
I haven’t had an error 30, so no first hand experience. I do know it’s a communication error. Which leads me to believe that somehow you may have loosened a connector. I would check all the connections you can get to. Be sure to pull them straight apart, DON’T twist. And push them straight together after you line up the small tabs inside. Be careful not to bend over the pins inside. Hope this helps!
How often do you have to tighten/adjust the new stem? I'm curious because I really need to raise my handlebars, but the Amazon reviews for this item mention it shifting position quite a bit while riding and needs to be adjusted on the fly. What has been your experience with this stem and reliability and being secure?
My personal experience is great. I haven’t had to adjust or tighten it at all. The adjustable stem has light detents with the angle adjustment. If you make sure they are properly seated I don’t think you will have any issues. If it gets tightened with the detents aligned improperly then you could have an issue. I will often pull up on the handles bars with some force to reduce the pressure on the front tire when hitting bumps and haven’t had it loosen up at all. Hope this helps!
As long as the bolt doesn’t interfere with anything down in the head tube, I don’t see why you couldn’t use the longer one. The only way to know is to run it all the way in and feel if it interferes. I am not certain what is down in there.
@@TinkeringTurtle thanks Tim, i had to get a shorter bolt as the long bolt only had thread for a short distance up the shank, did not know this until i pulled it apart, only cost $2 for the new bolt, fixed , thanks for your video very good information
Where can I purchase a riser and adjustable stem ? Also is there a set of handle bars that turn back towards the ride so they are not as wide ? Something similar to the rad city step through handle bars.
@@TinkeringTurtle is there a set of handle bars that you can recommend that sweep back towards the rider? By the way your videos are Extremely helpful…
There are several kinds of stems. You need to make sure that your stem fits these dimensions… Stereer Tube diameter: 28.6mm (1-1/8"), Handlebar Diameter: 31.8mm (1-1/4") I am not sure what variations you will see between brands.
Both the riser and the adjustable stem are holding up great. I have almost 4000 miles on this bike now. Yes the parts should be the same. I used the Fomtor stem on my Magicyle Cruiser. You can see that in this video. ua-cam.com/video/ID721_ATHTc/v-deo.html Both configurations work well.
@@TinkeringTurtle Still waiting for my ship notification. Any chance you could share some photos or video of the disk brake mounts front and rear? I'm planning to install lager disks and need to know how they mount to buy the correct adapters. Thanks!
There is no way for me to post images on a UA-cam comment. You would be better off to post to one of the Himiway Facebook groups. Many would be willing to help you out!
I don’t see why not. As long as you replace the spacers in the amount that brings the stem riser at least an 1/8” above the fork tube so the top bolt can properly tension the assembly.
I installed this on my Cruiser with the same configuration (riser and adjustable stem) with the same amount of spacers, and leaving the one to place on top for the right amount of compression, but when I pick up the front wheel to test it like you do in the video, the wheel doesn't move back and forth with the stem, as if it's not connected at all. The stem moves back and forth and I can move the fork and tire back and forth, but they don't move together. Any suggestions? Thanks!
If you tightened the side bolts the handle bars and wheel should turn together. Did you verify that the stem had clearance to the inside lip on the riser?
Finally got it. The riser pinch bolts needed one more half turn of tightening. I was afraid to over tighten them but apparently they were just not tight enough. Thanks again for your help and another excellent video.👍🙏
The radios are built into our Sena R1 evo helmets. amzn.to/34oF7ae The links to all the components used or mentioned in the video are linked in the description of the video. You can access the description by clicking on the small arrow underneath the video on the lower right side. Let me know if you have any issues finding it.
Hi Tim I followed your instructions doing the same exact thing with the same components. However, when I went to put the handlebars on the cables were not long enough to reach. I had to install with only the adjustable riser. Any suggestions? Thanks
What cable wasn’t long enough? If it is the front brake cable, can you take it out of the cable bundle and allow it to move more freely? Can you reconfigure the cable bundle to allow things to move more? If your using the riser and the adjustable bike stem. Do you have the spacer configured the same way I did? Can you adjust the spacers to give the cables more length? Can you change the angle on the adjustable bike stem to give you enough cable length? There are quite a few small adjustments you can make and still get most of the benefits of the upgrade.
Hi Tim, once again I took your advice. Everything seems ok. The riser I used has 5 spacers. I ended up using Himiway’s original 3 spacers, the the riser with 2 spacers, then the adjustable riser, then the last 3 spacers. Seems ok looks a little funny. Unfortunately I don’t know how to add a pic in UA-cam comments. Thanks
Glad it worked out in the end. UA-cam doesn’t let you post images. You would have to post the pic over in one of the Facebook groups. I’m sure it’s fine, enjoy the ride!
When you talk about compression issue and tightening the headset with loose stem bolts does that not apply when you took the original stem off? I noticed you loosened the headset first before the stem bolts.
I wasn’t trying to adjust compression when removing the stock stem. I was just removing it, so the order in which I loosened and removed the bolts didn’t much matter to me. All three bolts needed to be loosened/removed.
@@TinkeringTurtle Can't you adjust compression both ways or can you only tighten it? Is it perfectly fine for me to use your method or should I always loosen stem bolts first to be safe? thx
If I am understanding correctly, you need to tighten the top bolt first to set the compression which takes the play out of the system. Then you tighten the side stem bolts to lock it all into place. Does that make sense?
@@TinkeringTurtle Maybe I'm confused because I don't know exactly how the stem works internally, I assume it works like a cork so it makes sense to loosen the stem bolts when you're squeezing the cork down otherwise it won't move and cause strain, I was just wondering if doing the reverse and taking the cork out(loosening stem bolts first) and pulling it out applied as well, or in your case just pull the cork out because the order doesn't matter, hope that analogy made sense.
Not really, I am definitely confused. When removing the stem the specific order isn’t relevant. when assembling the new stem riser the order is important.
Hello again, Tinkering Turtle: Since I am new to eBike mechanics, I suppose my question may sound very crazy, but you can say. Is there any reason why when installing the Adjustable Stem that I install it pointing backward toward the rider, instead of forward as customary? Doing this would move the handlebars closer to the rider which is my main issue - the bars feel too far from me. Thank you for your answer. Try not to laugh :)
There isn’t a mechanical reason that you can’t do that, that I’m aware of. It should still be strong. It may feel weird while steering, I’m not sure. Something to consider, when you put on the adjustable stem the correct way, because the head tube is slanted back towards the rider, when you raise the stem or angle the adjustable stem the handle bars do come back towards the rider. I would, at least, try that first and see if it does enough for you.
@@TinkeringTurtle - Thank you for your response. I have been watching thru all your videos. I realize the amount of time and work it takes to publish the videos. You obviously are quite passionate about biking and particularly Himiway. If you have time, have you posted any video on upgrading the mechanical Himi disc calipers with the Juin Tek M1 hydraulic calipers? I woujd really like your thoughts on this idea. Thanks again.
I haven’t posted a video on upgrading to cable actuated hydraulic brakes. To be honest the mechanical brakes are working fine for me. So I haven’t felt the need to consider that upgrade. I have heard that they cheaper versions do have a tendency to fail after a short time. So I would make sure you do your homework and pick a good quality caliper. Bolton ebikes did a video recently on the upgrade and if I remember correctly he also sells them. Might be worth looking into before you go ahead with the change. Hope this helps!
@@TinkeringTurtle - Thank you. The Juin Tek M1 is the caliper I purchased (Bolton was out of stock), but I found a pair from a company in Portland. We shall see how they hold up.
@@TinkeringTurtle Excellent. I see the post you linked has 27.2mm or 30.9mm size, and Himiway's spec says 30.4. I am still waiting for my Himiway and can't measure. Which size do you have? Also, can you tell me when the length of the stock seatpost is?
The links to all the components are in the description of the video. Thanks for asking. If you don’t know how to find the video description in a UA-cam video check out this tutorial. ua-cam.com/video/n4sS7DalmQg/v-deo.html
Additionally do you have a link or sight I could research for the riser that you installed. I believe that would improve my ride. Thanks for your time.
I’m guessing yes, but you will need to pull the stem off and measure the steering tube to be sure of it. The handle bars are the same and the caps on the steering tube are the same. so I am fairly certain they would work.
I adjusted my seat to fit my height. I did this prior to the video and doesn’t have anything to do with the replacement/upgrade process described in the video.
Interesting question. For me it’s kind of a chicken and the egg question. I changed the seat, then decided to replace the seat post. And I never went back.
@TinkeringTurtle Good Evening My Friend And Nice To Meet You. I Loved Your Video. I Really Need Help With The Installation. Is There Any Way That I Can Contact You Through Email?
I looked up a picture of your (Nishiki Pueblo) bike, and that bike doesn’t have a thread less stem that can utilize the Satori-Up4. Your bike, I think, would require a different stem. Although I am not particularly familiar with that type. Sorry I could not be more help.
I am over 70 and just getting into Ebiking. First thing I noticed was the pressure on my hands, shoulders, and on my butt. So first mod was as you have done, raising the handlebars as high as the cabling would allow, and second was to put the biggest seat on the bike that I could find. Got vids showing that on YT as well, and thank you for sharing your experiences, we all benefit!
Your very welcome!
Finally someone doing it right by tighting the Top bolt first...
It’s important! 😁
I installed both of these upgrades and would like to note that to get more brake cable length I rerouted the front brake from the front of the forks to the rear. Much more cable length that way.
Good tip.
Nice video. This is the only video that I have seen regarding these parts where the bearing set adjustment was even mentioned. It has to be done as part of the installation.
Glad you liked it!
I am constantly trying to tell people that the top bolt tensions the bearing and please don’t over tighten it. I have, unfortunately, heard stories from some that have had issues because they didn’t understand the process.
Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the video, now deciding which way to go. Maybe I will get both and decide by trying both😀
Sounds like a good plan!
Thanks! Best "how-to" I've ever seen on, well, anything.
Wow, thanks! Glad it was helpful.
Thanks for the video and links, It made my upgrades much easier. I liked the stem riser and adjustable neck so much I bought one for my Wife. Much more comfortable for both of us. Thanks again. 👍
Your welcome, glad it helped!
Excellent video. Explains and illustrates the problem and solution perfectly.
Glad it helped, thanks!
Great job, Thanks for the instructions and advice.
Glad it was helpful!
You must be a Teacher.....Thank You so much for your detailed assembly....I am a new Sub. My new bike will be here next month (Bolton Blackbird). I comes with the adjuster, but the extra riser is new to me and might be needed. Without you guys doing videos I would never have known.
Your very welcome! I’m not a teacher, but in a past life I was a mechanical design engineer. ;)
Thanks for the sub!
Just from personal experience with installing a stem riser, I would suggest iaking off one of the original stem spacers (that sit under the stem) and test the fit of the stem riser. I found that I had to replace one of the original 20mm spacers with an 8mm spacer. You want as good of a fit in this high stress point as possible.
good tip.
Great educational video. Diff entry a more comfortable riding position. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Tim! I ordered the Wake adjustable stem from your link. Looks great and I like the ability to adjust it to a more upright riding position.
Enjoy! We love the riser and adjustable stems we installed. The riding position is so much better.
Thank you for the excellent instruction for this modification. I followed your directions and used identical parts for my Himiway and the hand problem is resolved. Thanks again. Wally
Excellent! Enjoy the ride.
My bike is supposed to be delivered in about 3 weeks, and I am very thankful for your videos. I feel that I am well prepared to accept the bike, and then add on the various accessories. Thank you for all your help!!
I’m glad they have been helpful. I hope you enjoy your bike as much as we do!
Excellent idea!
I usually install a setback seat post and 10-12 inch riser handlebars to get that 'pedal- forward position' for comfort. That normally requires recabling the brakes and shifters along with wiring for the display and so forth.
I may have to see if this works for me, providing I can get the seat low enough and the proper setback.
Right on! Let us know how it goes.
I love your videos! Thanks so much !
My pleasure, glad you like them!
Easy to setup. A little difficult to get used to using.
Interesting.
Great tutorial, I’ve been watching your videos as of late and appreciate the work you put into them. I just ordered the black and white bikes for my wife and I and we can’t wait to get them. The new riding position looks very comfortable, I changed the stem, riser, and bars on my mountain bike to achieve a more comfortable riding position as well. Happy riding 😊
Glad your liking the videos!
Great video, and although I haven't received my Himiway step-thru yet, I'm trying to gather information which may be helpful at some point after it arrives! I've watched a few of your video's today, and you're knowledge on these issues I find are precise and on the money, so it's very much appreciated, sharing this with us. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! I hope you enjoy your new bike!
Great review, exactly what I did to my e-bike. Made a great difference when riding, now the hand pain is mostly gone and the ride is more comfortable. I see just about everything is available on amazon for e-bike modifications.
Totally agree!
Another good place to get bike parts from is Aliexpress.com. prices are sometimes half of Amazon. But the two orders I have made took a long time to get here. (the first took a month and the second took two months) You have to be patient.
Super video . . . Clearly showed the parts & procedure that greatly improved my riding comfort . . . Thanks ‘TT’ 👌
Glad it helped!
I think the stem riser would be the first one to try
I can’t disagree. Depending on how tall you are, that may be more than enough!
Just did this to my new bike and I love it, thanks for the video, helped me a lot
Great to hear!
Great Entry level Ebike!
It sure is!
Thanks. You should work for himiway!
Thanks! Your too kind.
You Rock! Keep Turtling On!
Thanks, I will!
Yes, very informative. I was wondering what you thought of the adjustable angled stem riser that Himiway offers as an accessory?
It looks fine, but the one I used is on Amazon for half the price. I haven’t had any issues with it!
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Very good instructive video. Nice job!
Thank you, glad it was helpful!
GREAT EXPLANATION! Still waiting for my Himiway to arrive but will definitely purchase the first two items as I want to sit upright while riding. I love the step by step explanation! Great DIY!
Glad it was helpful! We are very happy with ours.
be sure to subscribe for future videos!
Already subscribed!, 😁
Thank you!
Himiway should do this correction on all their step thru e-bikes.
I can’t disagree. I would think that would be well received.
Great job...Was wanting to do this now I definitely will since you did the video.
Go for it! We love the change. For my wife’s bike we only did the adjustable stem, she is 5’ 6” and didn’t need the extra height. I am 6’ 3” and I added the riser. Let us know how it goes.
@@TinkeringTurtle very upset since the screw going into the stem was not long enough when i did what you said. I did not use the spacer and just left everything the way it was...Thanks
You will have to provide more info. The new screw comes with the riser. If you only upgraded to the adjustable stem, you will be using the original bolt. I had no issues with either install...
I used the riser and the stem from Amazon that was in your link. The screw was too short that came with the new riser when I used the spacer like you did for some reason. So what I had to was leave the spacers as they were and it worked fine. My brake cable seems to be ok but it is a bit tight. I am pleased with the added height of my handlebars and thank you for your informative videos. Have a good day sir
While I am still a little confused, I am glad you were able to work it out. Enjoy the ride!
Nice video, but shouldn't the riser be installed just a little bit lower because it appears that the upper bolt is too high to clamp down tight like the lower bolt? Maybe it would be better if 1 more spacer is removed. please see 5:30 on the video.
I have the bike hoisted up for the winter right now. But I can say I haven’t had any issues with it since it was installed.
Very helpful. Thank you!
You're welcome!
You have used a 115mm riser. I have bought a 230mm riser. Because I need more height
Nice, make sure to check your cables and wires once it is installed. Make sure that turning your handles doesn’t cause any issues.
Great video Tim. About how tall are you that I have a idea how many spacers to use I don’t want to keep taking things apart. Do you have better control of the bike with stem raiser. Also how is it on bumpier trails.
I am 6’ 3” tall. I haven’t had any issues with the bike on bumpy trails. I feel like I am in complete control of the bike with or without this upgrade, so no change. I hope this helps!
Cool. very cool
Thank you!
Great video, very thorough
Glad it was helpful!
I wonder why Himiway doesn't come this way from factory? Seems like we all have the same issue with handle bars.
Right!? it’s funny how few brands use, at least, an adjustable stem. It is a fairly inexpensive upgrade though.
I have a radmission and need to do this. I'm too old to be all bent over to ride haha
It does help!
ANOTHER GREAT ONE Turtle. Can you do the same for the Magicycle?
I do plan on changing out the bike stem at some point in the coming month or so, yes!
Thank you nice tips
Your welcome!
It looks like your final picture of the larger adjustable stem is on the bike the opposite way. I take it you can put these on either way and if it is drifting too far forward you can turn it around and make it come closer to you. One way it gets farther from you and the other it gets closer, but straight up is the same both ways.
No, the stem is on the correct way in my video. I am not certain what the steering dynamics would be if you reversed the stem to bring the handle bars closer to you. And because of that I cannot recommend it.
@@TinkeringTurtle You didnt use the last stem in your video you just showed a picture of it. I just got the part and if you put it on the same way the original one was put on it comes closer to you not going farther away from you. According to the picture you showed someone put it on the other way.
So by looking at the picture I assume you can put it on the other way, but I dont think many people would because it would defeat the purpose.
Again, I don’t know how the steering dynamics would be affected if you put on that stem backwards. It is meant to be installed so it bends down away from the rider. Installing it backwards could affect how the bike steers and might be dangerous. I don’t know where you are seeing it installed backwards, but after reviewing my video the images I show have it installed correctly.
I looked at the video again, and I think you are referring to the two bolts that attach the adjustable stem to the steering tube. on the stem I used they were on the back closer to the rider. On the one you chose, the bolts are on the front of the bike away from the rider. That is just a difference in where they put the bolts. The Stem is still supposed to be installed so that it leans forward away from the rider. The location of the two bolts do not necessarily dictate the orientation of the stem.
Thanks Tim, your vids helps
Happy to help!
How about a video on adjusting the forks, or replacing them for a smoother ride on pavement?
Unfortunately I can only do videos on subjects that I am versed in. I don’t have any experience adjusting the shocks. Sorry.
My wife and I don’t seem to be having issues with our shocks....
Nice video. But doesn't it make the stem weak and prone to sudden failure?
I don’t think so. While it might not be as strong as the normal configuration. I have jumped curbs pulling up pretty hard without issue. I have used these for years and have never had a problem. I do, mostly, just cruise around and don’t put a lot of pressure or tension on the handlebar system.
It has never loosened or failed in any way.
Thank you so very much you are awesome
You are so welcome!
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Thanks!!!
No problem!
Thank you for this great video. can the riser only be used with the original assembly or do i also need the adjustable stem? thank you
Yes you can just use the riser. It can be a an either or situation or you can use both.
Hello which on the MTB Stem should i order 31.8*110 or 31.8*90? Thanks i have a cruiser
The difference in the stems is the length is the length of the “neck”. the 110 is 20mm longer (3/4”), so it comes down to cable length. In my experience both should work with the cruiser. But be aware cable lengths can vary.
When I tightened everything up and held the tire between my legs from the front and twisted the handlebars the whole stem assembly moves. I can’t tighten it any more.
Are you tightening the top bolt, or the side bolts?
The top bolt is not intended to be tightened down all the way, if you do you can damage the system. It is only used for setting the tension.
The side bolts tighten up the system. Please rewatch and make sure you understand the system.
Maybe post pics in the Himiway Facebook groups so I can see what your doing.
Excellent, like all of your videos. I've watched several, and especially the one in which you talk about all of the mods you've made. I'm interested in the Cruiser and the one thing I noticed you didn't change were the mechanical disc brakes. Does that mean you're satisfied with them and didn't feel the need to switch to hydraulic?
I like that they are easy to work on. Once you get through the break-in period, you don’t have to adjust them as much. And they work fine for my area. (relatively flat)
Full hydraulic brakes are very different to maintain. There is less adjustment and if there is a problem you will likely be dealing with bleeding the oil or something along those lines.
Hydraulic calipers would be a compromise. I might try them in the future, but the mechanicals are doing their job for now.
@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks for your timely response. And thanks again for your great videos.
Great video again! You’re a huge help! But after adding the adjustable stem I need to change the angle for the lcd screen. Any idea what kind of screw is on that?
Thanks, It takes a metric 2.5 hex/Allen wrench.
Thanks for this. Having had wrist surgery I really way to take weight off my hands. But why / when did the system change? When I bought my ebike, I was stunned to find that I couldn’t raise the stem like I could on my old 10 speed
Your welcome. I don’t know when they changed to thread less system.
Thanks for posting.
What's your height, feet/inches. I can see this will be good addition to the bike in a more relaxed upright cruiser position.
Use to ride motorcycles in my younger years. Those days are gone with my legs, and have been looking at ebikes for a while.
I am 6’ 3” tall
You look very comfortable on this bike especially after this adjustment. How tall are you? I’m looking to purchase by the weekend. Thanks
I am 6’ 3” tall
So I may need some advice. I installed an adjustable fixture… and there’s a lot of play on the forks. Do I need to press down on the shocks when I put on the extension?
I have a zebra.
Good morning. It is likely that you don’t have enough spacers under the adjustable stem. The system is predicated on having that 1/8” sub flush gap I spoke of in the video. So you need to make sure that the fork cylinder that comes up thru the head tube is sub flush of the adjustable stem before installing the top bolt.
You can also watch this video, where I add a riser and adjustable stem to the Zebra. time stamp 8:44
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One of the bolts on the original stem was stripped when I tried to unscrew it. Is there any way to get it off since a hex key can't grab anything now to unscrew it and since it's recessed I can't use anything else to get it off. Thanks!
This really isn’t my area of expertise. But I wonder if a bolt or screw extractor would work?
Extractor set:
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I tightened the stem riser up as tight as I could and the riser still moves side to side.
Are you tightening the top bolt, or the side bolts?
The top bolt is not intended to be tightened down all the way, if you do you can damage the system. It is only used for setting the tension.
The side bolts tighten up the system. Please re-watch and make sure you understand what each set of bolts does.
@@TinkeringTurtle I tightened the top first and then the sides like in the video. I did it and re-did it like 4 times and the same results. Weird and frustrating!
I’m sorry Doc KD, without seeing the issue I don’t know how I can help.
Is the steerer tube an 1/8” sub flush of the stem or riser spacers?
@@TinkeringTurtle Yes. I totally watched your video like 10 times. Maybe it's a faulty riser. I'm going to try another brand.
Hi Tim! Thanks for all of your work and insight on the Himiway! I have a question regarding the stem. Can the regular Himiway stem be removed and reinstalled 180 degrees so that the stem extension is toward the seat rather than the front of the bike? Thanks again.
Mechanically I would say yes. But I am uncertain how the steering dynamics would be affected.
An alternative would be to use some suspension to move the seat forward and an adjustable stem to bring the handle bars back.
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Hey I got the same exact riser and everything but I noticed even after tightening it, my stem still slides when I steer. Like the stem would move to the right. I tried alot of times
My best guess is that the riser is bottoming out on the top of the fork stem. You need to verify that you have around an 1/8” of clearance so when you tension the top bolt it takes up all the slop/looseness. (do not over tighten the top bolt)
@@TinkeringTurtle thanks man.
Hi Mr. Turtle. We purchased the stem riser and stem, but we could not get the riser to tighten the wheel, it remains loose... We followed your directions in the wonderful video, but no luck. Any advice? Thanks in advance.
Are you tightening the top bolt, or the side bolts?
The top bolt is not intended to be tightened down all the way, if you do you can damage the system. It is only used for setting the tension.
The side bolts tighten up the system. Please rewatch and make sure you understand the system.
Also post pics in the Himiway Facebook groups so I can see what your doing.
@@TinkeringTurtle Thank you for replying. We may have over tightened it- and when you say, “damaged the system” what part or parts would need replacement? We tightened the sides and since we still had movement, we tightened the stem.
What kind of “movement” are you seeing?
@@TinkeringTurtle The wheel moves independent of the bars.
if you over tighten the top bolt you can damage the star nut that is press fit into the steerer tube of the forks. But that shouldn’t affect the side to side issue you are seeing. Did you get a bike stem or riser that fit a 1 1/8” steerer tube?
Tightening the side bolts should clamp down on the steerer tube and stop the rotation that you are seeing.
do you think that wake stem is a good quality stem or the fomtor better in your opinion?
I have used both the wake stem/riser and the fomtor. Both work well. I haven’t had any issues with either.
I, personally, prefer the flexibility of the adjustable stem/riser over the one-piece fomtor. This combination allows for more adjustment for height during installation.
Thanks for the idea which will help my posture. Would you be willing to give me the brand name and parts to order and where to get them? Thank you.
Check the description, I have included all the links to the components.
With regard to the riser, will all the risers on say...Amazon, fit the adjustable stem? The reason I ask, is the one showing in your links seems to be 'Currently unavailable' but upon looking, there are other brands/models, but knowing if fitment is correct is the issue?
As long as it’s for a 1 1/8” threadless stem it should work. Hope this helps!
Can you share the brand and size for the new stem you replaced? Where to purchase? Thanks
All the components discussed in the video are linked in the description of this video. Let me know if you have any issues finding them.
Thank you for your informative videos. Hoping you can help. My Himiway is suffering an error code 30. When I perform the steps suggested on page 13 of the manual, no luck. No accident occurred, nothing like that. I was pedaling in first gear up a hill in PAS1 and the motor just stopped working. Had to pedal the bike 5 miles to get home. It was a good/tiring workout, and now hoping for an easy fix. I'm waiting for Himiway to respond, but in the meantime, can you help?
I haven’t had an error 30, so no first hand experience. I do know it’s a communication error. Which leads me to believe that somehow you may have loosened a connector. I would check all the connections you can get to. Be sure to pull them straight apart, DON’T twist. And push them straight together after you line up the small tabs inside. Be careful not to bend over the pins inside.
Hope this helps!
How often do you have to tighten/adjust the new stem? I'm curious because I really need to raise my handlebars, but the Amazon reviews for this item mention it shifting position quite a bit while riding and needs to be adjusted on the fly. What has been your experience with this stem and reliability and being secure?
My personal experience is great. I haven’t had to adjust or tighten it at all. The adjustable stem has light detents with the angle adjustment. If you make sure they are properly seated I don’t think you will have any issues. If it gets tightened with the detents aligned improperly then you could have an issue.
I will often pull up on the handles bars with some force to reduce the pressure on the front tire when hitting bumps and haven’t had it loosen up at all.
Hope this helps!
hi Tim, if i already have a riser on a bike i bought, can i remove it and still use the longer bolt or do i need to buy another shorter bolt ?
As long as the bolt doesn’t interfere with anything down in the head tube, I don’t see why you couldn’t use the longer one. The only way to know is to run it all the way in and feel if it interferes. I am not certain what is down in there.
@@TinkeringTurtle thanks Tim, i had to get a shorter bolt as the long bolt only had thread for a short distance up the shank, did not know this until i pulled it apart, only cost $2 for the new bolt, fixed , thanks for your video very good information
Where can I purchase a riser and adjustable stem ? Also is there a set of handle bars that turn back towards the ride so they are not as wide ? Something similar to the rad city step through handle bars.
The links are in the description. But I will list them here too.
Here are the Amazon links:
Stem - amzn.to/37FA5bu
Riser - amzn.to/34umjGJ
@@TinkeringTurtle is there a set of handle bars that you can recommend that sweep back towards the rider? By the way your videos are Extremely helpful…
@Bart Chrest I haven’t researched new handle bars. But any bar with a 1 1/4” center (area for the bike stem to fasten) will work.
Hope this helps!
Are Bike Stems generally universal? I have a Rideal .........
There are several kinds of stems. You need to make sure that your stem fits these dimensions… Stereer Tube diameter: 28.6mm (1-1/8"), Handlebar Diameter: 31.8mm (1-1/4")
I am not sure what variations you will see between brands.
How is the stem riser holding up so far? do you think this will fit the magicycle cruiser pro? same dimensions
Both the riser and the adjustable stem are holding up great. I have almost 4000 miles on this bike now. Yes the parts should be the same. I used the Fomtor stem on my Magicyle Cruiser. You can see that in this video.
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Both configurations work well.
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Thank you very much for the help and making these videos. So helpful
Nice mod!
Thanks!
@@TinkeringTurtle How long did it take to receive your bike from order? Thanks!
8 wks 4 days. Although from what I can tell they may be coming a little quicker now.
@@TinkeringTurtle Still waiting for my ship notification. Any chance you could share some photos or video of the disk brake mounts front and rear? I'm planning to install lager disks and need to know how they mount to buy the correct adapters. Thanks!
There is no way for me to post images on a UA-cam comment. You would be better off to post to one of the Himiway Facebook groups. Many would be willing to help you out!
Is it possible to remove old spacers that came along the bike and then install stem riser with new spacers?
I don’t see why not. As long as you replace the spacers in the amount that brings the stem riser at least an 1/8” above the fork tube so the top bolt can properly tension the assembly.
I installed this on my Cruiser with the same configuration (riser and adjustable stem) with the same amount of spacers, and leaving the one to place on top for the right amount of compression, but when I pick up the front wheel to test it like you do in the video, the wheel doesn't move back and forth with the stem, as if it's not connected at all.
The stem moves back and forth and I can move the fork and tire back and forth, but they don't move together. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Did you tighten the two side bolts?
Yes, after I tightened the top bolt, I tightened the 2 bolts on the riser and then the 2 bolts on the adj stem.
If you tightened the side bolts the handle bars and wheel should turn together. Did you verify that the stem had clearance to the inside lip on the riser?
Finally got it. The riser pinch bolts needed one more half turn of tightening. I was afraid to over tighten them but apparently they were just not tight enough. Thanks again for your help and another excellent video.👍🙏
I am glad you figured it out!
Where did u get your stem extension and the two way radios I saw you all using on one of your rides
The radios are built into our Sena R1 evo helmets.
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The links to all the components used or mentioned in the video are linked in the description of the video. You can access the description by clicking on the small arrow underneath the video on the lower right side. Let me know if you have any issues finding it.
Hi Tim
I followed your instructions doing the same exact thing with the same components. However, when I went to put the handlebars on the cables were not long enough to reach. I had to install with only the adjustable riser. Any suggestions?
Thanks
What cable wasn’t long enough?
If it is the front brake cable, can you take it out of the cable bundle and allow it to move more freely? Can you reconfigure the cable bundle to allow things to move more?
If your using the riser and the adjustable bike stem. Do you have the spacer configured the same way I did? Can you adjust the spacers to give the cables more length?
Can you change the angle on the adjustable bike stem to give you enough cable length?
There are quite a few small adjustments you can make and still get most of the benefits of the upgrade.
I took a closer look at your riser. I will try again. Thanks
Hi Tim, once again I took your advice. Everything seems ok. The riser I used has 5 spacers. I ended up using Himiway’s original 3 spacers, the the riser with 2 spacers, then the adjustable riser, then the last 3 spacers. Seems ok looks a little funny. Unfortunately I don’t know how to add a pic in UA-cam comments. Thanks
Glad it worked out in the end. UA-cam doesn’t let you post images. You would have to post the pic over in one of the Facebook groups. I’m sure it’s fine, enjoy the ride!
When you talk about compression issue and tightening the headset with loose stem bolts does that not apply when you took the original stem off? I noticed you loosened the headset first before the stem bolts.
I wasn’t trying to adjust compression when removing the stock stem. I was just removing it, so the order in which I loosened and removed the bolts didn’t much matter to me. All three bolts needed to be loosened/removed.
@@TinkeringTurtle Can't you adjust compression both ways or can you only tighten it? Is it perfectly fine for me to use your method or should I always loosen stem bolts first to be safe? thx
If I am understanding correctly, you need to tighten the top bolt first to set the compression which takes the play out of the system. Then you tighten the side stem bolts to lock it all into place. Does that make sense?
@@TinkeringTurtle Maybe I'm confused because I don't know exactly how the stem works internally, I assume it works like a cork so it makes sense to loosen the stem bolts when you're squeezing the cork down otherwise it won't move and cause strain, I was just wondering if doing the reverse and taking the cork out(loosening stem bolts first) and pulling it out applied as well, or in your case just pull the cork out because the order doesn't matter, hope that analogy made sense.
Not really, I am definitely confused. When removing the stem the specific order isn’t relevant. when assembling the new stem riser the order is important.
Hello again, Tinkering Turtle: Since I am new to eBike mechanics, I suppose my question may sound very crazy, but you can say. Is there any reason why when installing the Adjustable Stem that I install it pointing backward toward the rider, instead of forward as customary? Doing this would move the handlebars closer to the rider which is my main issue - the bars feel too far from me. Thank you for your answer. Try not to laugh :)
There isn’t a mechanical reason that you can’t do that, that I’m aware of. It should still be strong. It may feel weird while steering, I’m not sure.
Something to consider, when you put on the adjustable stem the correct way, because the head tube is slanted back towards the rider, when you raise the stem or angle the adjustable stem the handle bars do come back towards the rider. I would, at least, try that first and see if it does enough for you.
@@TinkeringTurtle - Thank you for your response. I have been watching thru all your videos. I realize the amount of time and work it takes to publish the videos. You obviously are quite passionate about biking and particularly Himiway.
If you have time, have you posted any video on upgrading the mechanical Himi disc calipers with the Juin Tek M1 hydraulic calipers? I woujd really like your thoughts on this idea. Thanks again.
I haven’t posted a video on upgrading to cable actuated hydraulic brakes. To be honest the mechanical brakes are working fine for me. So I haven’t felt the need to consider that upgrade.
I have heard that they cheaper versions do have a tendency to fail after a short time. So I would make sure you do your homework and pick a good quality caliper. Bolton ebikes did a video recently on the upgrade and if I remember correctly he also sells them. Might be worth looking into before you go ahead with the change. Hope this helps!
@@TinkeringTurtle - Thank you. The Juin Tek M1 is the caliper I purchased (Bolton was out of stock), but I found a pair from a company in Portland. We shall see how they hold up.
Hi, are you using the Kinekt XL2 seatpost? What version did you buy? Long or short? And would you buy it again?
Hi Brian, I have a Suntour NCX suspension seat post with the “heavy” spring. I love it, would definitely buy again.
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@@TinkeringTurtle Excellent. I see the post you linked has 27.2mm or 30.9mm size, and Himiway's spec says 30.4. I am still waiting for my Himiway and can't measure. Which size do you have? Also, can you tell me when the length of the stock seatpost is?
The stock seat post is 30.4. I purchased a 27.2 to 30.4 shim. the stock seat post is 300mm I think. 350mm works fine.
Where can I find a link to the parts you used?
The links to all the components are in the description of the video. Thanks for asking.
If you don’t know how to find the video description in a UA-cam video check out this tutorial.
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Additionally do you have a link or sight I could research for the riser that you installed. I believe that would improve my ride. Thanks for your time.
The link to the riser on Amazon is in the description of the video.
Do these parts also work on the Escape?
I’m guessing yes, but you will need to pull the stem off and measure the steering tube to be sure of it. The handle bars are the same and the caps on the steering tube are the same. so I am fairly certain they would work.
Also check to see if you have enough brake line to raise it up. With hydraulics, they are a little tougher to replace if they are too short.
Where do we purchase these parts .
hi Shelia, the links are in the description of the video.
Magicycle doesnt give you any room to put a large riser on, another flaw. Brake lines are too short.
That’s odd, I put the fomtor riser on our Magicycle stepthru. Worked fine.
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@@TinkeringTurtle Well I guess they have different sized brake lines then.
@richardm893 that is quite possible!
You forgot to mention that you raised the seat before all this.
I adjusted my seat to fit my height. I did this prior to the video and doesn’t have anything to do with the replacement/upgrade process described in the video.
@@TinkeringTurtle If you bought a shock absorber for the seat, why would you need to change the seat too?
Interesting question. For me it’s kind of a chicken and the egg question. I changed the seat, then decided to replace the seat post. And I never went back.
@@TinkeringTurtle Probably easier to sit on a chicken. :D
@@TinkeringTurtle I think I know why, the damned seat wont come loose from the stem. Do you know the size of the bike stem tube, please?
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I’m glad you like it!
That just looks way too high with both pieces in place.
Maybe, but it is a very comfortable ride!
@TinkeringTurtle Good Evening My Friend And Nice To Meet You. I Loved Your Video. I Really Need Help With The Installation. Is There Any Way That I Can Contact You Through Email?
The best way to get help is to join one or more of the Himiway Facebook groups. Once there we can open up a post to get you the help you need.
@@TinkeringTurtle I Dont Have Social Media At All.
Sorry to hear that, it makes things harder. What are you having trouble with?
@@TinkeringTurtle Im Having Trouble Trying To Figure Out How To Install My Bicycle (Nishiki Pueblo) Handlebar Stem Into A Satori Heads-Up4.
I looked up a picture of your (Nishiki Pueblo) bike, and that bike doesn’t have a thread less stem that can utilize the Satori-Up4. Your bike, I think, would require a different stem. Although I am not particularly familiar with that type. Sorry I could not be more help.