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So obviously we both loved this movie, are there any other films with bad ass heroines like RIpley that we should watch?
Mad Max: Fury Raod would be my recommendation. I would recommend Serenity, but you would have to watch all of Firefly, if you have not already. And, if you have not, you should.
100% Mad Max: Fury Road. There's a reason Charlize Theron got an Oscar nomination for her portrayal of Furiosa.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992) comedy/action
The Fifth Element (1997) comedy/sci-fi
Run Lola Run (1998; German) suspense
Angel's Dance (1999) suspense/comedy
Alien 3, the Assembly Cut!
Firth Element, very unique experience!
"Thank you the 80s!" - The funniest quote of the reaction.
Hudson may have panicked a few times, but he was still solid in a fight, and he went out like a Marine and kept taking aliens with him until the very end.
Gorman also redeemed himself at the end by going back to help Vasquez.
And Burke redeemed himself by bravely sacrificing his body to the Xenomorph to be cocooned and later impregnated. What a true hero! Clearly the film's MVP!😁
Bill Paxton has been killed by a Terminator, an Alien, and a Predator. He’s a human trivia question. 8-)
I served with a few guys like that, afraid of everything and stayed as far back as they could from everything - until the S went down and they became the crazybrave that was always in them.
Also, on his panic periods I think a lot of folks overlook the references he makes to “being short” and only having something like 3-4 weeks left.
He’d clearly been in past missions that would’ve involved danger/combat… but imagine you’re Short and THAT is your final mission.
I think that rates spazzing out more than one normally would.
The ROAR that the crowd let out when Ridley came out to fight the queen in the loader was amazing. This was one of the best moviegoing experiences I can remember.
Ditto. The energy in the theatre was amazing. The only other crowd energy/reaction that was comparable for me was opening weekend of Ghostbusters. Totally different reactions,obviously, but still a great shared experience, in which being in a packed theatre was actually fun, as opposed to the torture it has become.
Still gives me chills every time I see it. I think iconic is a vastly overused word these days but it really is deserved for that moment.
@@jefferoni1984 For the entire film!
Same here. My first rated R movie when i was a 12 year old!!!
It was the 1986 equivalent of Captain America lifting Mjolnir.
You missed my favourite quote, "did IQ's just drop sharply while I was away?"
Certainly have
"You never said anything about an Android being on board."
Gosh these Apple fans are impossible.
Yeah but none of them can leave a comment because their batteries are flat
@@eddiebirdie1545 not seen the test results of the iPhone 13 then.
Google probably would send 70 families to their deaths in order to gather data to sell stuff to aliens.
@@waragainstsleepx2517 So much for do no evil.
Let's not even consider what Facebook might be up to in this universe...
Pvt Vasquez was John's foster mother in Terminator 2
And Bill Paxton is one of the punks in the beginning of The Terminator.
And, she did think she was auditioning for the part of an illegal alien. This is the reason she showed up with a tan. The joke is an Easter egg. So, so funny.
And bill paxton played johns dog, wolfie.
That's some diverse acting right there.
Vasquez also plays the Irish mother in "Titanic". Also a cop in "Lethal Weapon 2", but then, not a Cameron film.
"It's not Alien without Ripley in her underwear." - 100% classic.
And every red-blooded male agrees.
@@danielschaeffer1294
If your blood is green, you will probably be more interested in the alien queen.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Don’t worry. I know it’s red whenever I knick myself shaving.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 Not necessarily. If it's green, you may have a penchant for hanging skulls on your wall.
Well, I think that kind of underwear was pretty common back then.
The actors playing Hicks, Hudson and Bishop were all in Terminator. The actress playing Vasquez was in Terminator 2. Of course you can find one or more of these actors in other Cameron movies.
The guy who plays Hicks, Michael Beihn, was excellent in James Cameron's The Abyss.
Bill Paxton and Lance Henricksen are the only actors to have been killed the The Alien, The Predator and The Terminator. And yes, I'm counting Bishop as a death.
Vasquez was in titanic too
Lance Henriksen, Bill Paxton and Jenette Goldstein were also in a vampire movie from 1987 called Near Dark
@@WishMaster077 Directed by... Cameron's wife...
RIP Bill Paxton. You sir are a national treasure!!
I havlearned that he died few day ago in 2017, i was really sad (for a cheap death, no cancer etc but a aorta failure), but he will be still remembered as the solo guy that has been killed by alien, terminator and predator, RIP its sad.
@@mignonthon Lance Henriksen (Bishop) got killed by these 3 too. Killed by an alien (Aliens), killed by the terminator (Terminator 1) and killed by a predator (Aliens vs Predator 1)
@@Cantaloop76 yeah true (i didnt remember Avp 1 to well but yes he was the chief/creator of weyland compagny,i didnt know that Bill passed aways in 2017, i was so sad to learned it, even death killed him ( bad humor sorry) "game over man, game over !" is still eternal.
@@jtsawis7078 I remember him also from Mighty Joe Young, loved that movie as a kid.
This movie holds the distinction of having one of the greatest burns in the history of film:
Hudson: "Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
Vasquez: "No. Have you?"
OUCH!!!!
Such a burn that only an alien blood acid burn to the arm could soothe it....
@@marklittrell3202 Yep! And that actress is the same woman who played young John Connor's foster mom in Terminator 2. She also had a small part in Titanic. Seems James Cameron loves using her in his movies!
Sucks great line.
I love that line
I was always partial to Ripley calling out the W-Y board when they wouldn't listen:
"Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?"
Saw this the weekend it came out in theaters. When Ripley said "get away from her you bitch!" The entire theater leapt to their feet and roared. Amazing times.
It's insane that they were able to genre-hop from sci-fi horror to sci-fi action and have it still be tonally consistent in this universe.
The tone was all in the lived-in future setting and the crazy Giger visuals.
This movie is amazing in so many ways, but one of the biggest reasons is how Ripley really shines and transforms as a character. She is a fantastic role model in so many ways. She has a can-do attitude (driving the APC into the nest to rescue the marines, understanding which hatches to block when looking at the schematics), she stands up for herself (during the company interrogation and during the on ship briefing with the other marines) but she also shows respect and works with people at their level which earns her their respect in turn. She's also strong as a mother figure to Newt and love interest to Hicks and never acts high and mighty about anything she does. Also, and probably the most obvious, she faces her fears head on and deals with them. Given her fears are more literal monsters than most people have to deal with, but at the end of the movie she has found a level of peace that she didn't have in the beginning. On a side note, Cameron knows how to make a damn good sequel!
Several characters have great character arcs or development. Hudson starts off like just any jackass, but by the end he fought bravely to the very end. The Lieutenant also redeems himself when he goes back to try to help Vazquez. And Bishop didn't really change, but he redeemed the image of the synthetic humans.
Trivia: Sgt Apone was played by the late Al Matthews, who was both a real US Marine Sgt and War hero. He worked with the cast and crew to make the actors and the set up as accurate as possible on a Hollywood set, including making the actors go through real Marine training(the same training he had done, and later in his military career, he instructed other marine to do), until the actors playing marine acted and performed as if they were real marines.
OH man that scene when she realised she was in the nest with all the eggs... gives me goosebumps every time.
Yep. Me too.
I love how you picked up on the attitude changes between the first film and this one. The first one, born out of the 70s, was relentlessly cynical and pessimistic. This one, born out of the 80s, is more hopeful and adopts a can-do attitude.
This is the one where 3 of the dozen humans in the crew survive. So, you know. the happy one!
The queen alien got in the elevator that Ripley summoned: Ripley was in a super hurry so she pressed the elevator button for both elevators (which we have all done in real life). When the second one arrived (after Ripley and Newt had started their journey up), she got on it. Obviously there is a certain level of intelligence with the Queen too.
l think if you follow the story on the thru the movies the aliens are/were engineered weapons with genetic intelligence which would evolve to suit their prey. In a later movie a frozen chained up queen is thawed out & revived (not for the first time) but this time she knows even trapped in her room that things are different and gets her young to bite off the limbs that are chaining her thereby setting her free
@@TheFalconerNZ Interesting. There was an alternate ending that was briefly discussed by the writers for the first movie that eventually got shot down that lends a lot of credibility to the idea that the aliens are actually much more intelligent than we thought they were: In the final scene Ripley actually gets killed by the alien. The alien gets into the pilot seat and, in Captain Dallas' voice, makes a distress call to be rescued by some unsuspecting passing ship... That would have been a shocking, but depressing, ending!
“They cut the power? How could they cut the power? They’re animals!” - Hudson.
They’re smarter than we think.
@@L1VE3V1L And of course there's this classic example of their intelligence.... (watch to the end) ua-cam.com/video/aVZUVeMtYXc/v-deo.html
They should have cut to the alien queen just standing there listening to elevator music...Girl from Epanema on the Casio...
I use the motion-tracker ping as the text message sound for my phone. It's fun watching people twitch when they hear it.
thats pretty dm cool, where did you get or find that sound effect?
That was my first phone notification sound too. 👍
But I had to change it when my brother was visiting and we were playing two player Aliens: Colonial Marines. 🎮
It kept going off and in game we were frantically spinning around saying "is that yours, it's not mine!"... 🤣😂
That its fucking messed up :'D
You are a mean, sadistic bastard. I approve. :D
You should immediately look at your phone and say out loud "That can't be; that's inside the room!" And then slowly look at the ceiling.
"Get away from her you bitch!" an all time favorite movie line period.
Greatest action/sci fi/horror ever made. Ripley is the ultimate action hero because she's relatable, she's not a supersoldier or some fearless killing machine. She's terrified the entire time, she's just got an intense will to live and she's not willing to back down once she starts protecting newt. The deeper you look into this movie and the character development the more enthralled you'll be with just how good this movie actually was and still is
The android, Bishop, is played by Lance Henrickson, one of my favorite actors. His career is very worth following. He was also in "Terminator," as the police detective who wasn't played by Paul Winfield.
Henrickson, Goldstein and Paxton also appeared together in the western vampire movie “Near Dark” in the mid 80s.
Lance Henriksen was actually Cameron's first choice to play the Terminator. He had Lance dress up in the biker gear and kick-in a door when James was meeting with studio execs. The idea was that machines don't need to be bulky to be strong, so the ideal infiltrator unit is the one that looks like anyone else in a crowd until it sidles-up and rips your heart out.
The studio became enamored with Arnold's physicality, and he's certainly iconic, but he's an objectively-terrible choice for an infiltrator. If you look at a crowd and see Arnold, you know exactly who you're going to peg as the secret assassin.
Cameron wrote the "detective" part for Lance as a consolation prize when the studio passed him over.
Lance Henriksen's autobiography is called "Not Bad For A Human."
Lance Henrickson: The Police Detective Who Wasn't Played By Paul Winfield...😂
@@michaelccozens Lance Henrikson is the only actor in the Alien franchise to play 3 different characters with the same name: Android Bishop, Michael Bishop Weyland (who design android Bishop), and Charles Bishop Weyland (head of Weyland Industries)
"We're in the pipe, five by five."
You don't know how many times I used that line.
Express elevator to hell!
@@bungobox7454 Going down!
Or "Lock & Load!"
I'm the same with 'I got a bad feeling about this drop.'
We're in for some chop!
Fun fact: Sigourney refused to be on set with the animatronic Queen unless it was in character. She didn't want to see it as a 'puppet' but as a 'monster'.
The Queen reveal is one of the most awesome moments in movie history. Shock and Awe ftw.
This is how you portray a strong female character.
Amen......👍 hey shout out to Thelma and louise as well
EXACTLY! Stop making "Strong, female characters" that are basically just MEN played by actresses & CALLED Women!
The ONLY time a SFC should show ample MALE traits (aggression, competition, etc.) is when APPROPRIATE for a woman! Like when she is protecting her young. (mama bear)
Though, well done exceptions, like Ramirez are fine from time to time.
The rest of the time, show her as "STRONG" via her female traits. (Empathy, adaptability, etc.) Like when Ripley tapped into her maternal instincts to "relate" to the Queen to 'communicate' with her.
See back in the day that the hero was female was not even a big deal or any great event. We have definitely regressed recently and amplifying inequality that's not even there this making it even worse than it once was unfortunately
@@sharkdentures3247 That's actually the opposite of what Ridley Scott intended in the first Alien movie. Ripley was initially written as a man, and the goal was to show that each characters' genders were interchangeable b/c it doesn't matter. James Cameron chose a different route and highlighted Ripley's identity as a mother. It's all about the execution, not the choice. Also, it's Vasquez, not Ramirez.
@@TCM215 Actually, girl power became huge back then. It was a big deal when Bond girls began to be consistently portrayed as strong women (ex: Michelle Yeoh & Famke Janssen). Xena: Warrior Princess, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Dark Angel, Alias, etc... also took advantage of the trend on TV. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon addressed the oppression of women by the patriarchy as well.
There are a few, but not on par with Sigourney Weaver's portrayal of Ellen Ripley.
Plus, she received an Oscar nomination for Best Actress for her portrayal.
"Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
"No. Have you?"
GOAT comeback. :)
Hudson was a "short-timer" in this movie. Basically he had less than a month left in the military. Typically the military doesn't send any troops out on deployment when we're that close to ETS (end term of service). So, his reactions throughout the movie were supposed to be compounded by the fact that he was almost finished with his enlistment. There might be some exceptions for specialty MOS personnel however; that would be extremely rare.
Such an iconic movie. I can never get tired of watching this. Also your quote "thank you 80s" had me in agreement big time!
I still stand by my opinion that this is the greatest movie ever made, its absolutely amazing how intense the pacing is and realistic the effects were for the time. This movie is everything the summer blockbluster was meant to be, It is next level movie making.
I agree with you - with the Possible exception of Terminator 2
Yep, this is about as close to a perfect movie as you can get. Such a relief they _NEVER_ tried to make sequels or franchises just to cash in on its success.
@@MyMarsham - Uhm...
@@joaquinlechen8611 Yep, just let this and it’s originator stand on their own mighty achievements in cinema history, never to be dragged down…
I would place Silence of the Lambs, Lawrence of Arabia, The Wizard of Oz above it. I place 2001 at the pinnacle of all movies.
I'm still blown away by the practical effects/prop work in this movie. The Alien Queen is amazing, in that shot where its trapped in the airlock flailing away I have no clue how they pulled it off, they must have had a life size model all rigged up with moving parts or something. Same with the Facehugger running on the floor, some kind of robot or something? Who knows but its super convincing. Mental. It all just makes the world and the Aliens feel real, its great!
Great reaction to this one and the original Alien! I'd say Alien 3 is worth watching, particularly the Director's/Assembly Cut. It's definitely not on the same level as the first two, but it has its merits. I didn't like it at first, but it has grown on me, and considering the production hell that it went through--three different directors, multiple writers producing completely different scripts, constant studio interference--it's amazing that it came out as good as it did.
Alien 4 is bizarre, campy nonsense that doesn't feel connected to its predecessors.
The Alien vs Predator films are inspired by a series of comics that was originally a spinoff of Predator 2. They are not cannon to the story or universe of Alien.
Prometheus and Alien: Covenant are technically prequels, but they're so different in tone that they don't really feel like they belong. They feel like a completely different universe with the xenomorphs poorly shoehorned in to attract audiences and attention. (Covenant is much worse in this respect since it does a really poor job of trying to build a backstory for the xenos. If Prometheus hadn't been billed as a direct prequel from the get-go, it could have just functioned as a stand-alone, "inspired by but not actually related to Alien" type of movie.)
Alien 3 is OK, it's just nowhere near as good or as rewatchable as the first two. I prefer Alien 4, which is more fun (though still not as good as the first two).
Yeah, Alien 3 should be on the list, just not a high priority. And what the hell, if you’re the completist type, might as well watch 4 at some point. WRT Predator, unless you’re a big Carl Wethers fan, meh. And if you don’t see that first, why bother with the rest?
YES, THEY NEED TO WATCH ALIEN3. But there is NO OTHER ALIEN MOVIE AFTER 3!!
i think Alien 3 is one of the most underrated sequels ever. so paranoid and depressing. some of the scenes like the Charles S Dutton burial speech are fucking amazing. and the camerawork during the final chase sequence is just mindblowing. not to mention the very ending. great movie.
Alien 3 is even hated by its own director. DO NOT WATCH IT. it isn't just bad, it shits all over Aliens.
"I'm not completely in disagreement with the suits"
"It's one persons word against 60"
Except for the information Ash sent back to the company. Have to remember, before they killed Ash, he was talking back and forth with the company keeping them up to date on what was happening.
Also, that's John Connor's foster mother from Terminator 2, and obviously, Michael Biehn, Hicks, is John's actual father. Kyle Reese in Terminator 1.
Regarding 80's and the military. You'll notice there's a ton of movies where the soldiers/grunts on the ground, suffer due to poor intel. That a very important theme throughout the 80's, for a variety of reasons (aka horrendous fuckups and dirty covert ops that involved Intelligence agencies directly commanding soldiers).
For all Ripley and everyone knows, this isn't an extermination of an entire species as Burke had put it. Remember, it's a derelict spacecraft, not indigenous. They don't know where it's from, but they've no reason to believe it's from LV426, anymore than the derelict craft was.
I suspect that it was just a few people in the company that were responsible, perhaps even a rogue group like Burke. Also, 57 years have passed. The people responsible are presumably dead. The current members of the company likely know nothing about it.
The one family, Newts parents were naive. The scientists on the planet already been to the ship. That's where the specimens in the jars came into play. They was experimenting on people being hosts before Newts family found ship. Company new. They was playing Ripley the whole time. That's why she was on spacestation and not on Earth, so she couldn't tell anyone
@@Mr.Ekshin movie didn't show what was already known. Burt went to see Riply a couple of days after father got facehugged and they losed contact. They knew about ship before Newts father. That's the real reason they went to the planet. The colonist didn't know about the ship but scientists knew. Newts father was a scavenger and he looks for claims and stumbled upon ship
That and the suits were from the licensing dept not the company.
Ripley was being reviewed by something akin to our FAA about her actions.
The company withheld whatever data they had. (if any) It's likely they deleted everything when the ship blew up to deny responsibility.
Yeah but realize that the company had in it's directives to the Nostromo's " Mother " that the crew were all expendable. Dean Luwen must have known that regardless of the time that passed as it would have been in the company's computers. Ripley should have seen him as suspicious. I find it curious that she didn't tell him the company labeled her crew as expendable...perhaps she was holding that info. back so she wouldn't possibly be targeted, followed and " disappear ".
I think the Alien franchise is all about Ripley. Although cinematically, it (and 4) have different feels, I think 3 is important for Ripley’s character arc. I also enjoy the prequels of Prometheus and Alien Covenant..
Kerry you are perfectly correct. Alien was all about horror/tension/and the unknown, as no one had seen the alien before, or what it could do. Aliens was all about how a lot of aliens could chew through even the most battle hardened, well equipped firepower thrown at them. Alien 3, is Ripley's swan song, showing that despite being surrounded by cannon fodder, she does what she has to to stay alive, up to a point, and how the creature that the alien gestates inside of, influences how it moves. Alien 4, is the "Well we can make you even more scary than the alien!" ; now let's see what you can do!" SuperRipley! They all have a story to tell, whether it be in Director/Assembly cuts, or original cinema releases. They all have a valid Alien story to tell. None of them retell any of the story that has gone before, they all add new facets and data to the Alien franchise....even the Alien vs Predator titles.
@My-Brain-Ache I have to respectfully disagree with both of you. Though Cameron did have a logical follow-up to the story that involved Ellen Ripley, to say that Ripley & the Xenos MUST go together is *extremely* limiting from a story perspective & actually doesn't make much sense in the world that was created. What I mean is that there was never established in either film that there was some kind of 'mythological bond' between them.
In the 1st film, Ripley was smart & lucky, but she was just a regular working Jane who rose to the occasion as regular people have done. The 2nd film again, was just a logical continuation of that, Ripley losing her daughter, but having a second chance with Newt, gave her the drive she needed to face this new threat. It was how she used that mothering passion that was the crux of her confrontation, not any kind of Grand Fate that forced the fight.
Also, in that light, the 3rd film, while being a decent attempt to retread the first movie (as Fincher said he disliked the 2nd & wanted to continue the feel of the 1st), completely eviscerates & destroys the entire POINT of the 2nd film. Ripley saving and bonding with Newt, becoming her Mother, was, without a doubt, the Heart and Soul of the story. Dumping Newt (and Hicks & Bishop) like trash makes all Ripley's struggle hollow & meaningless. Ripley doesn't give a *rip* about the Aliens & fighting them. She only did it to save her adopted Daughter.
The same thing was done a few years ago actually, with the end of 'Thor: Ragnarok' & the start of 'Avengers: Infinity War'. The victory Thor has in saving his people, in forging a new relationship with his Brother, are all casually gutted & made pointless at the start of Infinity War. Thanos was already a gargantuan threat, his actions there are just gratuitous.
Lastly, thank you both for your thoughtful comments. I'm not trying to be antagonistic & if more work had been put into Alien 3's script (or just better writers used), it would have been entirely possible to have another logical fight between Ripley & the Xenos, *Without* gutting the 2nd film.
@@torikazuki8701 no it doesn't. Alien 3 is a great follow up to the second film. It shows just how nihilistic and bleak things truly are.
@@Chris-ci8vs 'It doesn't' what? Just being bleak & nihilistic for the sake of being bleak & nihilistic, is easy, stupid & immature. It has *always* been easier to destroy, than to create. Both in fiction & and in life. 'Alien 3' adds nothing to the franchise.
The 1987 Dark Horse Comic series, that FOX authorized DH to create, blows A3 out of the water from a narrative perspective. It is still extremely dark and 'nihilistic' at times, but focusing on a developing relationship between Newt & Hicks, while letting Ripley become a background character, took the story in a logical path, that wasn't just a repeat. EXACTLY what the 2nd Film did with the First.
i agree about ALien 3 but Covenant sucked, the most dangerous species in the galaxy was created by a damn android with daddy issues and a god complex give me a break, Prometheus is at least a pretty looking film with interesting concepts and idea's about the creation of life and can easily line up with the beginning of Alien but Covenant is just Ridley Scott trying to destroy and rewrite his own story for the sake of his weird attraction towards robots or robot on robot action in the case of Covenant.
Paul Reiser played Burke. He actually told the story of when he took his mother to the premiere and as the part of the movie he dies came up, he tried to prepare her for the shock, only for her to start rejoicing in the Xeno eating him along with the rest of the crowd.
I just imagine her looking over at him beforehand like "how could I raise such a despicable child" haha
I loove how Simone is suspicious of Bishop right up to the climax. Mirrors Ripley perfectly! Then, just like Ripley she feels real bad about it after, especially knowing he was torn in half :P And is really fond of him thereafter. When you rewatch it you gotta love Lance Henriksen's performance and just wanna give Bishop a big hug when Ripley is mean to him.
Hudson has the best one liners.
Iconic
Who? Bill Paxton of course! .
i love how this one changes from the first so it doesn’t feel stale. it was such a smart choice
Ripley face transitioning to earth is a piece of art!!!!!!
Besides Terminator 2, this is the best Sci-fi Action movie ever made.
Maybe Blade Runner 2049 is.
@@philosopher0076 Blade Runner 2049 is great but I wouldn't call it an "action movie"
Besides Aliens & Terminator 2, the podim of best Sci-fi action movies is completed by Starship Troopers as far as I'm concerned.
@@s.p..smdness8748 Matrix is in on that list and so is Edge of Tomorrow for me as that is last also slowly becoming a great classic for me personally with all of these... if its one you can watch over and over and not get bored with it ..then its awesome
I think Star Wars and The Empire strikes Back might argue. The Thing, Robocop and Escape From NY were also pretty great.
Along with Terminator 2, this is one of the best sequels ever made.
In my opinion Alien 3 is also a great movie (my second favourite behind Aliens) - just different. I think that is the beauty of all the Alien movies - none of them are the same style. The feel of Alien 3 is a lot darker and both 3 and 4 are still worth watching. 4 is a fun action movie. The assembly cut of 3 I think is the best version. Reading the other responses below I think you might have to watch them and just make up your own minds, which I think is the best thing to do with any movie anyway.
The Assembly cut makes Alien 3 a good movie. It´s not as good as 1 and 2 but it still is a solid movie
Oh, a fun point on this film…. The actor playing Burke, Paul Reiser, started for several years in a sitcom about a marriage that was really sweet; not at all filled with the trope of one spouse being stupid or a trouble-maker, just marriage silliness, annoyances, romantic moments, the spectrum of two people who had pretty normal lives. Great show, quite funny.
His character was so different that often folks who have seen one or the other don’t immediately or sometimes ever until having it pointed out recognize him as the actor in both roles.
The show, ran for around 7-8 years Ithink, had a running joke that once every couple of years or so in casual convo the Alien films would be brought up and he’d interject or reply the husband character would interject or reply he’d “only seen the first one”.
The expression "we are in the pipe, five by five" has an interesting meaning. When you enter atmosphere (entry interface or EI) you basically use retroburners to deorbit and enter a virtual pipe and if you get out of it you end up unable to reach target TAEM (Terminal Area Energy Management) which basically means missing the landing zone. TAEM starts at mach 2.5 at about 25 km altitude and has some rules and guidance systems to allow a craft to reach the destination landing zone. Five by five is an expression used in telecommunications to say "loud and clear".
I recall it being mentioned in Apollo 13 that the returning vessel re-entering atmos had a very narrow window between having an entry angle that was too acute, thus creating too much resistance and burning-up the craft, and having one that was too flat, thus skipping-off the atmosphere and being deflected back out into space. IIRC, they said that if the Earth was a basketball, the window for re-entry would be as thin as a piece of paper. Might that also be part of the "pipe" in question?
@@michaelccozens You are correct. Above the pipe and the capsule bounces back to space, because it is falling from the moon, so it may have reached escape velocity. Below the pipe and it would be an overwhelmingly hot and too far below and atmopshere would feel like crashing against a rock.
The entry profile of Apollo makes one bounce during entry, like a stone in the water, and then it goes down in a reentry. This is where the term reentry comes to play. If that bounce is skipped, the entry becomes hotter-
Space shuttle Entry Interface used the hotter approach. Apollo had a heat shield that would melt and carry the heat with these melted drops, away from the capsule. But Space Shuttle was more like a cup of coffee, no material going away from the ship. This forces a hot entry. If you leave hot coffee in a cup for too long, you will feel the exterior of the cup becomes hotter. In the case of Shuttle heat shield it would be the internal aluminium hull.
So a quick entry is way hotter outside, but the cup does not heat in the outside, so the alimunium hull does not get too hot. As you may guess, the alimunium interior gets hotter after the ship has landed. But not hot enough to melt the alumiium. If you choose a colder entry, it is like having coffee for a longer time, the hull may melt inside.
Shuttle has no reentry, just Entry Interface (EI) where the ship travels inside the pipe.
After EI, TAEM comes to play where the ship is a glider and it aligns with invisible HAC (Heading Alignment Cone) that are like cylinders you need to reach to end up perfectly aligned with landing strip.
Watch a video called "How to Land the Space Shuttle... from Space".
Funny you say that about Telecommunications. I was in Telecommunications in the Navy and never heard it until I played Starcraft.
Remember the crowd reaction when Captain America summoned Thor's hammer in Avengers Endgame? One of the few moments in film I can think of that rivals that is when Ripley dons the power loader and says, "Get away from her, you Bitch!" Definitely a stand up and scream "YEAH!" moment.
I used that quote for years afterward, for many situations.
congrats on watching the extended edition and on recognizing Michael Biehn
In the beginning when they don’t believe Ripley, keep in mind that this is the same company that set them after that thing in the first place and made the crew expendable. They knew. Maybe not the folks sitting in that room, but the company knew she was telling the truth.
This is one of my favorite movies, hand in hand with T2
Some trivia:
1. Starcraft homage: ua-cam.com/video/U2VPG063IAI/v-deo.html
2. I remember hearing that in a screening someone shouted: Queen takes bishop... James Cameron is brilliant...
3. Carrie the girl that plays Newt messed constantly the scene where she falls into the tube so she could repeat it because it was so fun!
4. The knife scene with bishop using hudson hand below was improvised(Paxton's scare is real)
5. Sigourney didn't like firearms and was concerned about it, until Cameron made her shoot some rounds, she liked...
6. Apone(Al Matthews) served in Vietnam and that's why is so convincing, talk about method acting :)
7. Vasquez(Jenette Goldstein) at the time was a bodybuilder so that's why she is so fit
8. Cameron paid from his own pocket the first sequence(the one where the guys entered the ship), btw I think that it had the benefit of providing that beautiful transition from Ripley to earth
Moderately Interesting fact: The heavy machine guns that the soldiers "wore" were actually attached to Steadicam rigs!
they were also put together using various motorcycle parts and other real weapon parts
Indeed, and I don’t think - since people aren’t aware of this or how heavy old steadicam rigs PLUS the addition of rifle and other parts were - appreciate the physical dedication the two actors agreed to, even though the shots were short and there was crew on hand to get the gear off quickly when done. Especially the actor for Vasquez since they didn’t even invest in a small/custom steadicam harness smaller pros use and just cut down/modified one to fit her. Not as good at distributing weight and balance…
@@sdev2749 the weaponry used was basically MG 43 German machine guns.
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42, not 43. Also the Pulse Rifles are Tommyguns with an underslung Remington shotgun hidden inside the shell of a SPAS-12.
@@CruelestChris my bad. Yes I'm aware of the way they made the prop. They also made their distinctive sound by running recordings of automatic weapons fire backwards.
Finish the Alien saga. We all did and everybody has different opinions on the last 2 Ripley era films. I was harsh originally but have grown to appreciate them for what they are. They do complete Ripley’s story.
One thing that a lot of people don't notice is that the mother alien doesn't summon the elevator, Ripley did. She pushed BOTH elevator buttons to make sure that she had the best option to get to the top as fast as possible. When the first one arrived Ripley got in with Newt and they rode it to the top. Meanwhile, the mother alien saw the other elevator arrive and got in. This being said, however, it is strongly implied that the aliens are intelligent in several places (Hudson: "Cut the power? How could they cut the power? They're animals!"). In fact, one of the considered endings for the first Alien movie was that Ripley would get killed in the escape pod and the alien gets in the pilot's seat and sends a distress call using RIPLEY'S voice. Luckily, having Ripley get killed after all that was shot down by the powers that be for being a terrible idea! (Though it would certainly be an ending you'd never forget!)
It's given that they have a wolf's level of intelligence, and some genetic memory absorbed from the host. SO they don't know what the power is, or understand electricity, but they do understand it's importance to us and our survival based on the hosts they took, and if any of them was a technician, they'd know how to cut it.
@@ScornedOne1080 For all its faults (of which there are many), I thought Alien: Resurrection had the best display of their level of crude intelligence, when the imprisoned xenomorphs massacre one of their own to get out of their cage, then use the freeze-blast system on the guy who had been torturing them.
@@davidmcleod5133 Admittedly, A:R needed a better fit director. Had some decent parts don't get me wrong, but it was overall a series of morbid jokes one after another as opposed to a horror movie.
Alien also implies the creature is intelligent, just not obviously so with Cameron's dumb dialouge. Another reason why this sequel is inferior to the original.
@@apothos666Their intelligence is inferred in James' sequel as well: "They cut the power? How could they have cut the power?" I too prefer the original for its slow-burn immersion, but the sequel is rightly regarded as one of the greatest sequels of all time and I would have to agree with that, though they are quite different kinds of movie.
Anyone wanting a definition of “suspension of disbelief” just needs to watch any 30 seconds of Simone watching Aliens. 🙂
Like Terminator if you want to stop after this one most people won't be upset. Especially if you liked the ending of this movie.
@Ricardo Alonso Rojas Because the next movie starts by dropping trou and taking a shit on this movie.
The actor you identified as one of " The Sisters " from Shawshank is Mark Ralston . He`s been in so many films. One of our best character actors. His filmography is a mile long . As far as the rest of the series go , watch them & make up your own minds .
The psycho sadomasochist Val Resnick in "Payback"
Apparently, the little girl that played Newt... Enjoyed the slide down the ventilator shaft, that she kept yelling "Wheeehhh!!!" They had to dub her shrieking in from other shots. I hope that that is true. I hope that little girl enjoyed every second of her experience!!!!
Her commentary is spot on. She instantly recognized the narrative of putting a mother against a mother at the end.
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I guess that depends on whether you are watching the special edition or not. Technically Ripley isnt a mother in the theatrical version.
This is one of the best sequels ever made.
The 80's had some great sequels: Empire, ST: TWoK...
This is pretty much a perfect sequel. It understands its audience, as they already know the audience is going to be tense and afraid of the Aliens from the first movie and on the edge of their seat, so they don't need to have as much buildup or tension building as the first one, while still raising the stakes and having a ton of pressure for the audience to be hooked.
Little fun fact - Michael Beihn gets bitten on the hand in all of James Cameron's movies. Sarah Connor in Terminator - Newt in Aliens - Bud in The Abyss
Fan Fact: when Bishop says there are "26 minutes left".. from that point to the starting of the credit roll sequence is.... 26 minutes
Come on, Alien 3 isn't that bad : The early CG stuff isn't great, but it's still a David Fincher movie.
I think Alien³ is a good movie, but a bad sequel.
@@grendeltech Good point
Aliens 3 had two fatal flaws in an otherwise good movie. First, the CG is godawful, even for the time. Like, take you out of the movie and laugh at it bad. Not good to be laughing at a horror film. The second is they kill Hicks and Newt right off the bat. Unforgivable. I guess maybe the actress for Newt probably grew too much to work, and maybe the studio couldn't get Michael Beane to sign on. Either way, it killed the movie for a lot of fans in the first minutes.
@@zakholmberg5460 Funny thing is that most of what people cite as "bad CG" in Alien 3 isn't CG at all. It's a puppet against blue screen, aka practical effects, just implemented poorly.
@@ahoyforsenchou7288 Wow. How did they make a puppet look that bad?
Alien 3 is criminally underrated, especially the Assembly cut.
They did the characters too dirty for most fans to enjoy it unfortunately
It should've been a stand alone movie without the characters from Aliens, and then it'd have been okay.
I'm one of the few that agrees. I catch a lot of flak for liking the Assembly Cut
I think Alien 3 is shit. If you like seeing 2 movies worth of character development to be destroyed off screen, then you're welcome to call it underrated, but for me, I wish I could erase it from my memory and never have watched it.
Alien 3 is an underrated masterpiece! Love it. It’s my favourite soundtrack as well.
There's a cut scene where Ripley learns about her (deceased) daughter and breaks. This scene explains why Ripley risks everything to save Newt: she is a "replacement daughter". And the final battle is a mother against another mother fight trying both to save their children.
Carrie Henn who played Newt, gave up acting and became a Primary School Teacher. She said her favourite scene to play was the one in the water. The assistant Director heated the water over night so it would be warm for Newt the next day when they were filming. Henn said it was too hot so her and the Alien sat on the side moving their feet in the water.
I saw this in the theatre when it first came out... I was like 15, and me and a friend hopped on the bus to downtown to go see a weekend matinee in a beautiful old stage theatre that was converted over to a modern screen theatre, that ended up getting torn down a few years later.
"HR Giger: Artist hailed for his surrealistic creatures in nightmare landscapes who won an Oscar for his work on 'Alien'". his artwork is creepy and sexual at the same time.
Bishop the android, hicks and Hudson were all in terminator. Lance Henrikson (Bishop) was a cop in the station, Bill Paxton (Hudson) was one of the guys the naked terminator gets his clothes from and Michael Biehn (hicks) was Kyle Reese.
And vasquez was in terminator 2 as john connors carer mother
As someone who watched this in the theater back in 1986, it cannot be overstated how the theater erupted in cheers when Ripley said "Get away from her, you bitch!"
Always had the feeling that all of these marines were either transferred or demoted for misbehaviour and they were sent as hosts for the aliens (military has as much interest in weapon development as the companies). So, while watching we would make suggestions why we thought each one of them was put on the boat and we agreed that Hicks probably had dirt on his superior and ended up with this bunch.
Great theory in general. I'm going to star speculating about reasons now too.
(I've certainly been re-watching the movie a lot lately through reaction vids)
also why they don't seem like a set "unit" but a group that has only been working together for a short while.
Naw, the Marines being hosts for the aliens makes no sense, since, you know, they have guns and grenades they can use to off themselves if they're even close to that happening, and which will make it unlikely the drones will be trying to take them alive.
Yea their disciplined sucked.
When I first saw this I was like, "They have been there for 20 years and just now found it? But then I realized the company probably told them to check it out after they found Ripley.
Because it went so well for the last group who checked it out.
This is what Ripley is specifically talking about when she accuses Burke, saying it is his fault. He (Burke specifically) sent them to go check out the ship, and Ripley found the directive in the colony's log. There are deleted scenes that make this more clear.
Yep, Burke hears Ripley tell her story and then has the family check the location, because maybe $$$
@@TreantmonksTemple The really messed up part was, the company review board realized Ripley was telling the truth and still they didn't reinstate her license.
However, Ripley may be too old to keep her license. Commercial pilots are forced to retire at age 67. They can still fly airplanes but over 65 they can't fly airlines any more.
I think we can safely assume the have the same thing in the future, and though the age limit might be higher, there would surly still be an age limit.
Sigourney Weaver was 30 in 1979, so if we assume Ripley is the same age (30 is a reasonable age for a second in command of a ship) she would be at least 87 years old when she was found adrift in space.
She would be well past any kind of forced retirement age.
I liked Alien 3, it's just a different style of movie and I think many were expecting something more of Cameron style. Alien 3 is with another different director but doesn't disrupt the continuities. It would be more appropriate to say it's a Ripley story rather than an alien one.
I can't agree. It diminishes what this movie built up considering the characters that survive this movie and what Ripley went through for those characters. Bad writing. Fincher is an amazing director but Alien3 does more damage than good to the franchise. Shame.
I think people are a tad unreasonable about that.
It's like people expect that Henn should have put herself in a freezer for 6 years to not age out of the role.
The problem is because of the writing in this movie, Alien 3 just had to work around it in some way. (With that said, Alien 3 still have worse writing, but not because of the parts people tend to complain about.)
I liked Alien 3 but I wish they had come up with another explanation about what happened to the rest of the cast from this movie. But apart from that, it’s good.
"Aliens" was conceived as a labor of love from Cameron when he was struck by creative inspiration on seeing the first movie. "Alien 3", on the other hand, was commissioned by executives wanting to squeeze more money out of the franchise, and was spawned as a Frankenstein monster conglomerate of six different scripts...none of which were individually a good, interesting, or creative movie. Heck, Ripley was back in that film because the executives demanded it.
not only was Michael Beihn in Terminator as Kyle Reese and then also in Aliens as Corporal Hicks, but Bill Paxton who plays Private Hudson in this movie was also in terminator as the punk rocker that in Terminator that gets killed in the beginning so the Terminator can have close. Both actors are also in Tombstone, another movie y'all should watch!
You made the correct choice in watching the Directors Cut, it has a lot that makes the movie more impactful.
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More story info, but it messes with the pacing.
I saw this when I was in high school. This was one of the greatest things ever back then! I remember the movie critic t.v. show Siskel & Ebert reviewing this movie. Siskel didn't like it and actually said "there were too many aliens." I remember yelling at the t.v. "well it's not called HUMANS!" :D
of all the reaction reviews out there on youtube,this is my favorite.LOVE SIMONE and GEORGE,they make this series entertaining.cant wait for more recent reviews coming up.love this movie by the way!
Glad you enjoy them!! ^-^
First, mad props to Carrie Henn for one of the most piercing screams in cinema history.
Second, there's a vampire Western that you should see called "Near Dark." It was Kathryn Bigelow's first time directing a film by herself, and she co-wrote it with Eric Red. She was dating James Cameron at the time (before they got married) and "Aliens" and "Near Dark" share a few actors: Lance Henriksen, Bill Paxton, and Jenette Goldstein (Vasquez). It doesn't have a bad ass heroine, but it has a bad ass woman director and co-writer. Great little film from a great director!
It's finger lickin good!
LOL. "Thank you the 80s!". Loved that comment.
Alien 3 is a good example of early David Fincher movies especially the director's assembly cut. But as a continuation of the Alien franchise, it is rather lacking. I say give it a try but try to view it as a movie separate from the two that came before it.
I always regretted they didn't follow the comics where the sequel would have been a story, I think on Earth, featuring Hicks & Newt. Did try to watch the third one once, but couldn't get into it so Have never finished it. kerk
@@rayharley597 for interested parties, we are discussing "Aliens: Earth War" published by Dark Horse Comics. Which follows alternate events after the second Alien film. It has been reprinted where Hicks' and Newt's names where changed, but it is easy to see who they were meant to be. It is a phenomenal read and I can't recomend it enough to fans, but there are two major problems with turning it into a film as far as I can tell. First is that horror, especially sci-fi horror, is a rather niche market with a definate cap on how much you can expect to bring in at the box office. I believe the cost of making Earth War would far exceed any expected return (granted, there have been exceptions). Second, while Earth War is amazing and it's sequel "Nightmare Asylum" is a fantastic follow up (with ellements the fourth film would "Borrow") the last story in the trillogy is a huge let down (This franchise and the number 3 right? ) I would live to see Earth War on film, realisticly, I don't think it's likely.
Alien 3 is underrated IMO, the assembly cut is worth watching and is the 3rd best Alien movie for me
Not worth a viewing. After what they did to Hicks & Newt......no way, man. Game over!
Considering that the Director David Fincher despises the movie and has completely disowned it, I think that tells you all you need to know about that travesty. And the "Assembly Cut" isn't a Director's cut at all, Fincher had zero input and had no interest in working on it in any capacity.
Back in the 90's, Planet Hollywood had a full size statue of the Xenomorph queen. Even in a fun family restaurant setting, it was scary!
I was fortunate to see a pre-release of this that kept two impactful scenes that was left out of the official release. They show the colony before the Aliens and the two auto machine guns firing down the hall and all you hear is the screaming Aliens. Then guns stop with a few rounds left. That is the first time the Aliens try to get in before they use the ducts.
Update: Yup, they got the cut I saw.
I find it comical that after 57 years the 'company' is so concerned with the ship. The board of directors wasn't even born at that time. Anyways...
Missing in deep space probably has different insurance implications as opposed to definitely destroyed by the crew.
It's like losing a whole oil rig, or a supertanker. The technology doesn't change, it's still really valuable, you can just keep using forever... unless someone blows it up.
Glad you chose the Special Edition for the reaction, as it has so much more to the story than the theatrical version (theater viewers missed out).
The Special Edition is much better for a second viewing, but not a first. Those of us that have seen it already have to keep in mind that the audience is SOOO much better off not knowing what happened on LV426 before Ripley and Co. arrived. It really hypes up the suspense not knowing if they actually encountered the Aliens or not, and if so, how? And it doesn't really add much in return (except possibly on that second viewing), except also slow the pacing. So you lose more by watching it first. You don't really lose anything but watching it second.
@@nathanruggles Yeah I agree. People really into a franchise overestimate the value of "as much info as I can get" on first run, myself just as much as anyone. But i do think for example _Donnie Darko_ plays better as pure mood no explanation instead of the rambling philosophy made up by the director in his cut that "explains" everything but doesn't make the film better :)
@@jerodast Thank you for you reply! Glad to know somebody understands where I'm coming from.
Frankly, to take it a step further, first viewers could actually be turned off from a film by a Director's or Extended Cut because they can become overwhelmed with the info dumps or lore dumps or distracted or confused by the extra plot points or bits for minor characters and all the rest that can come with it.
@@jerodast To give another case in point: the LOTR Fellowship of the Ring Extended Cut. [Spoilers] It reveals the capability of the ring of power to allow the wearer to disappear with the extended tale of Isildur BEFORE Bilbo reveals it (in the theatrical version) as a surprise at his party. It ruins for the first-time viewer sharing in the surprise with all the characters at his party. Which frankly is sad. But a direct result of watching the extended first, and something that fans can easily forget.
10:50 ripley to gorman "many of the things in this room don't react well to bullets"
I love how Kyle Reese teaching both Ripley and Sarah Connor how to use weapons lol
It always amazes me when people state that the executives of the Weyland Company didn't believe Ripley because it was the same people who ordered Ash to bring back the specimen at the expense of the crew of the Nostromos. It was not the same people! These executives were not even born when the Nostromos incident happened. Now does the company, as a whole, have the same mindset? It's a very strong possibility but the current executives had no knowledge of what exactly happened 57 years ago. If they did then that would mean that there was a memo passed down from each executive to his or her successor about the order to have Ash bring back the alien at all cost. So over the last 57 years every CEO, CFO, Head Science Officer and etc. got a memo stating that the Ash, the artificial person, was ordered to sacrifice the crew of the Nostromos in order to secure the alien. Is that really believable? Again, Burke showed that there were people in the company that would sacrifice others for monetary gain but that does not mean that they knew of the previous order that was given to Ash 57 years before they were even born.
This is is how I see it. Whoever gave Ash his orders in Alien also was high enough in the Weyland/Yutani company to change the crew assignments because Dallas told Ripley that Ash was a last minute replacement. Now during the Nostromos incident Ash could have sent back preliminary reports about his progress in studying the alien but there was no reason to mention that he was preventing the crew from defending themselves because that could lead to a paper trail implicating the company in murder. Now Van Leuwen admitted that the life boat records showed that Ripley's crew landed on LV426 so Burke had access to the coordinates, within a mile, of the alien ship. The fact that the colony was so close to the alien ship leads me to believe that some data was sent back by Ash or it was the biggest coincident in thw world considering how massive a planet has to be to hold an atmosphere. Obviously Hadley's Hope was close enough that Newt's family was able to return to the colony before the creature exploded out of the father. But again, this is just a few W/Y execs who probably didn't know the extent of the creature's danger and figured that anything that happened could be dealt with by the colony.
Side note: the time it took to travel to LV426 presently was shorter than for the Nostromos because the advances in space travel during those 57 years (10 months vs 17 days).
Alien 3 is alright, not as good as the first 2, but if you want to watch Alien Resurrection it makes more sense if you know what happens in Alien 3
And if you like Firefly, you kind of have to watch Alien: Resurrection because it was Whedon's first go at that sort of story. The influences for his later work show through, and it's kind of fun. Beside... Ron Perlman's in it. He's awesomesauce.
Aliens the best sequel ever. Masterpiece ever. Greatness
Vasquez is played by Jeanette Goldstein, the same woman who was the foster mom in Terminator 2. Micheal Biehn (Corporal Hicks) and Bill Paxon (Private Hudson) both had major roles in the western movie Tombstone as Morgan Earp and Johnny Ringo, respectively.
I would certainly give Alien 3 a watch. Know that each of these 3 movies intentionally has a difference pacing and style. Just go in not expecting it to be like either Alien or Aliens, and I think you'll enjoy the ride.
Alien3 was good! Just different & darker than the first two. More people should give it a chance.
Not sure what Alien 3 you mean? They only made the two movies and then they stopped.
I absolutely agree. The tide is turning on Alien 3 now though. It's more of a thinking movie than the gung-ho Americana of Aliens with it's Disney happy ending.
I remember watching this film in the theatres when it first came out. The part in the movie when the facehugger slammed into the glass to get at Burke, in the lab, I threw my head back sending my ball cap flying two rows back. The few people that were there, ( It was an early afternoon showing) laughed loudly at my embarrassment. But it was all in good fun, and I got my cap back.
I just noticed, after all these years, that the spear gun Ripley uses on the xenomorph in the first movie is still at the bottom of the door when the salvage team cuts their way in.
If you want to de-stress, watch Monty Python’s The Life Of Brian…… you could probably do with a laugh….
@Kristopher Chavez
Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best
And
Always look on the bright side of life
Always look on the light side of life
(Whistling)
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One of my all time favorite films. James Cameron rocked the hell out of those Aliens :-) The sound mix of this movie holds good still today. Can't wait when it comes out in 4K. Also , i think this was the first time an actress was ever nominated for a Best Actress Oscar ( Alec Guinness supporting actor nomination for Star Wars 1977) , in a sci-fi movie 1986. Alien 3 suffers from a weak script that not even David Fincher with all his talent could save.
God damn it, I took a bite of food right at that cut to Bishop dissecting the facehugger, lol.
Also I’ve never heard anyone say “bitch” with as much venom as Ripley when she’s about to fight the queen, it’s amazing.
"Strategically crawling" 🤣 ... love it.
One of the things I like about Alien and Aliens is that the aliens weren't invading Earth, they weren't some empire out for conquest, or evil. They were just animals doing what animals do.
Well…… how can they cut the power man?! They’re animals!
@@djjinxman1 The first 3 Alien movies reference the Aliens as being "animals" and so under-estimate them. They are a very hostile yet intelligent species. That's how I interpret it anyway.
The Alien sequels (after Aliens) are still way more watchable than the Terminator sequels (after T2)
Even if the other Alien franchise movies aren't as good as the first two, they're still definitely worth a watch.
There's so much tasty tasty lore and background to be had.
Itchy tasty
Vasquez (Jenette Goldstein) is also Janelle--John's foster guardian in Terminator 2 Judgment Day. You guys are awesome! Lotsa love from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. ( :E