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When Simone asked why one of them was drinking water from a vine instead of his canteen -- it's because they don't know how long they'll be in the jungle or when they'll be able to resupply. By scavenging wherever they can, they're giving themselves more time in the field and on mission without having to worry about it.
Indeed, you're gonna lose a lot of water to sweat in a hot and humid environment.
Perfectly put.
eeeh,some ppl dont quite get this masterpiece (they made few comments in the video asking stupid stuff,where things are clearly explained/shown in the movie)
Also, the character Billy is a native American tracker/scout. He has the cliché "close to nature" thing going.
@@dwaneanderson8039 totally! In tune with nature... He felt the predator even before Hawkins was killed.
In case you're wondering, when the Predator weapon hit Arnold and didn't hurt him, it actually hit and destroyed his gun; he was only clipped by shrapnel. Hard to see.
Agreed! The gun was seen in pieces when Arnold went backward following the hit.
Amazing how many people don't get this. Maybe I've watched this movie too many times.
Dont know why people miss that , plasma caster hits the gun , but one error is that it should explode in shrapnels on impact , as seen when predator shoots trees later .
@@pete_lind It's possible that the weapon has an adjustable power level. He may have turned it down on purpose so he could play with his prey like a cat with a mouse.
@@pete_lind Possibly because the trees have a little water content, Which gets flash boiled causing the splintering, Where the gun being made of metal just gets melted by the predators plasma based shoulder cannon 🤔
RIP Carl Weathers
Many people dont realize that when the Predator picks Dutch up and looks at his skull he is checking if he is human. He has never been pushed so far, even hunted by another human. Once he sees hes an "ordinary" human who did it solely with his wits and guile and not actually some superior species different to humans he respects Dutch.
That is why he follows by immediately trying to level the playing field. Predators may be violent killers but they have a deep sense of honor and respect for hunting and combat.
Predator 2 also shows the Predators code of honor
Same reason it doesn't just use its gun on Billy. When he throws his gun and uses his knife he only uses his own melee weapon as it respects the challenge.
@@charlielynch3916 also when Billy cuts himself he is denying the predator the first blood
I thought it was admiring his skull.
He is inspecting his skull and how good it would look in his collection. Not to see if he is human, lol.
I love how Simone is completely unashamed of her love of beefcake shots. 😂
@@yt45204 George?... George McFly? Is that you?
I haven't heard the term "beefcake" in quite sometime lol
@@yt45204 Simone was not climbing trees with binoculars was she?
Hey simone is hot am i right guys and gals eh?
@@christopherbrown6049 She's adorable and cute as a button.
Stan Winton is basically THE creature designer, one of the top tier ones for sure with tons of credits to his name.
It's actually a family tradition. Kind of like the Barrymore's in acting. LOL.
the list of iconic creatures he made during his life time is as long as my freakin Arm.
Terminator
@@ThreadBomb
I think that was Phil Tippett, not Stan Winston.
And the inspiration for the Predator having mandibles came in a conversation with James Cameron when they were on the same flight. He told Winston he always thought it would be cool to see an alien with them and the rest is history.
I saw this in the theatre in 1987- when the Predator got out its surgical first aid kit, someone in the audience yelled out-
*HE'S A DENTIST!*
Seriously?! 🤣
Had a similar experience in Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers.
11:50: How can you criticize that? It's one of the coolest scenes ever put on film. The whole team knows Mac wouldn't be laying down that kind of firepower without a good reason so they all join in no questions asked.
It's not a critic, it's just funny
When we watch these movies as a kid they hold a special place in our minds and we just like them more than someone who watches them for the first time in the present day.
I remember when I made my colleague watch The LOTR trilogy and he thought it was "Okay" he thought it wasn't as great as The GOT. :|
because they missed a tad bit at the start like dumbasses where the 1st team of 6 encountered the same thing got into a firefight with the predator and fired in all directions and then died.
That is actually a battle drill called “react to contact” and is fairly accurate. It’s Battle Drill #2 per the Army’s 7-8 manual which is basically the Infantry Bible.
The ignorance of people is amusing because, like the two previous comments, people assume it’s merely a Hollywood move. They don’t realize it is a pretty good depiction of a real thing.
@@ks5526 it's still kinda funny, accurate or not
The Arnold battle cry is also one of the coolest moments in any movie I've ever seen, along with the buildup of the score and how it echoes out into the jungle. So intense!
I do it every morning before work like at 6 AM.. it’s good for clearing the throat
@@technopirate304 YES!! Best Hunter Race in the Galaxy
Yeah the brings up the testosterone levels
That scream was in one of the TV spots when this movie came out. I was twelve at the time that is what made me want to see this movie.
@@Ant-bm1qk lmao
I love that Simone laughed at the dirty joke and George just groaned. lol
@@jovanjorgovan23 Or here's a thought, he just didn't like the joke because it invokes a gross mental image.
Quit trying to preach your reactive crusade.
Soy boy PC world
The immature aspect adds a nice layer to the joke. Loved Hawkins. Anyone who's ever served knows that guys like that are essential to keep up morale.
Stan Winston is one of THE BEST special FX guys in Hollywood of all time. His work includes, among many others:
Aliens, Predator 1+2, Terminator 1+2, Iron Man, Jurassic Park 1+2+3, War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones 4, Avatar, The Thing.
He worked together with Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, John Carpenter, Tim Burton, and many others.
An absolute LEGEND.
🙂 you forgot the arguably best film he worked on: galaxy quest
The Thing and Predator alone make him arguably the greatest of all time.
He made a movie of his own, Pumpkinhead.
@@yaqubebased1961 Pretty much the only thing he did for The Thing was the dog-Thing in the beginning, Rob Bottin (and his team) did all of the rest. Still great work by Winston, but The Thing is Bottin's masterpiece.
@@stobe187 Didn't know. Thanks for the info.
I love that the first half is typical 80's action, just to showcase how tough and skilled the commandos are. It really drives home just how badass the Predator is as it dispatches the team one by one, pretty much effortlessly.
Yes! This soundtrack is awesome. The music plays so well with the movie, every bit of it. My favorite part of this movie is the helicopter ride, and they bring it back when mack is singing gonna have me some fun chasing the predator. Amazing movie
also I thought the Predator only hunts prey it deems worthy so I guess it would be a compliment in a way
"Feels a bit cheating when you have advanced technology like that." Said every hunted animal ever.
The animal enjoys the advantages of superior senses, superior speed and physical performance, adaptation to the environment, natural stealth and camouflage, natural instincts...
It evens out.
check out tim wells, he use spears bows and blowdarts on big animals, unless that is too high tech
@@dr.burtgummerfan439 yeah, they totally have a fair chance against someone with a gun they didn't even know was hunting them. Sarcasm.
@@godmagnus You've never hunted, have you?
In the US there are hunting seasons. If the game wardens catch you hunting out of season you will face heavy fines and possible jail time. I used to hunt deer with my dad and a family friend many years ago in Florida during the 80's. The area we used to hunt at during the off season we would go out to target practice and scope out areas for tree stands where we think we can get a good view of the area. There were a couple of times we would see deer who would run off right away. In the five years I hunted with my dad and our friend we saw and bagged one deer. The deer knew when it was hunting season and they were some army ranger trained ninjas. I stopped going out after five years because I got tired of getting up before sunrise to go sit in a tree stand, freezing my ass off (it does get cold in Florida) and be bored out of my mind for six hours. After another couple of years my dad and our friend gave up.
If you notice, Billy is the only one of Dutch's squad where the skull was taken instead of just the skin.
This is because Billy dropped his guns, and turned to fight on a log, where he couldn't be flanked, IE had to fight head on.
The implication is that the predator respected this, and fought him in kind, and valued his skull as a more worthy opponent.
You couldn't have said it better, true warrior aint afraid, not me but😂😸
Billy was scared, he said so earlier, he just wanted to go out swinging instead of running.
The Predator only takes skulls as a trophy. From my knowledge, skinning and hanging the bodies is more like intimidation .
Fun fact, during the production, the studio had to take out a special insurance policy on "Billy" actor Sonny Landham.
Not in case he got hurt, it was in case he hurt anyone else.
@@IdealUser Sounds like that could be right. Same difference though, he only took skulls from "worthy" prey.
"Wow. This movie is just swimming in testosterone so far"
"I like it"
That exchange was everything 😄😁
This movie BLEEDS in testosterone.
It's drowning so hard in it that it makes ladies go bald
"Arnold Schwarzenegger in Jurassic Park" sounds like a movie I never knew I needed to see before now xD
Btw, really love how much better your reactions are getting over time, you two are becoming so much more relaxed and honest, keep it up
Yes, the Predator species use the Earth as their hunting ground. They're trophy hunters so they only go after healthy/dangerous prey, this one judged Arnold to be impressive enough to warrant facing him hand to hand for ultimate bragging rights at the hunting lodge. Predator 2 is also good cheese, after that the series is regular cheese imho
I love that you get it. I've seen so many reactors completely miss that. :)
there is a new movie recently finished filming set 150 years ago centered around a native american tribe. it has got to be better than the last effort
@@synaesthesia2010 yeah I hope they just abandon the new predator storyline lol.. it kinda defeats the point of fighting a superior alien when you have that crazy suit. I feel like they're gonna make towards like a one man army action movie
Predator 2 is underrated. No arnold but i still suggest watching it.
they're not trophy hunters, they're collecting spinal fluid so that they can absorb human dna and become stronger.
"This movie is just SWIMMING in Testosterone!"
Damn right! It's the most "macho", manly movie ever made!
It wasn't Rated R for the VIOLENCE! It was rated R because ANY male under the age of 17 who sees it would prematurely hit Puberty from excessive Testosterone exposure through the screen!
Like 90% of Franchises, you guys can see the NEXT one (the sequel), but I recommend AVOIDING anything AFTER Predator 2!
Funny, you think guys haven’t hit puberty by 17.
Lol cool comment but puberty is usually around 10-14 years of age :'D
Predators was pretty good, the rest of them are skippable.
To quote Blaine this movie, "Will make you a goddamn SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUS."
@@jculver1674 "Predators" has a Yakuza dude going face to face with a Predator armed with nothing but a katana and an upper body full of gang tattoos, which automatically qualifies it as a good movie :)
23:30
The Predator was impressed by Dutch's cunning and resourcefulness, so he saw him worthy of hand-to-hand combat
The predator was played by Kevin Peter Hall, who also played the title roles in Harry and the Hendersons and Monster in the Closet. He also had a cameo at the end as the helicopter pilot. Four years after this movie came out, he contracted aids from a blood transfusion and ended up dying from it. He was only 35.
That’s really sad.
Originally Jean Claude Van Damme was cast but he left after clashing with the producer.
Conan the Barbarian. Schwarzenegger, Mako, Max von Sydow, James Earl Jones, Sandahl Bergman, swords, snakes, and an epic score by Basil Poledouris.
"They didn't explain why any of this was happening."
"It's like a big game hunter."
And that's the genious of it, they did explain it just not with words.
Show not tell.
Yep. Again, some humans being taught to think of the species as "the" species. Nope, these aliens can be just as cruel and stupid about sports hunting as humans. Some people really having trouble grokking this.
@@margaretsmith756 I love when someone uses grok/grokking in a sentence. A made-up word from a science fiction novel that has deservedly become part of the English language.
It could be a rite of passage kind of thing, like before being considered a warrior they have to go off alone and bring back proof of some kills.
If you're looking for another 80's action classic, I highly recommend RoboCop (1987 - Director's Cut). No wasted scenes, most of the practical effects still holds up today and an absolute masterpiece in the sci-fi action genre. Hope you add it on the list!
Maybe so but this girl really needs to stop saying holly sh...
that film is another masterpiece, quite a few 80's films don't get taken seriously because silly sequels, that's a very deep and dark movie, I didn't know there was a director's cut
robocop is one of the bests.
Plus, arguably the goriest death scene ever conceived. I'm talking about the mook towards the end of the movie, not the policeman at the start.
@@KennethSorling it reminded me of The Fly, that was pretty gory too at the end
The actor who played the Predator, Kevin Peter Hall, was also the copter pilot at the end who exclaims loudly upon seeing the explosion. He was over 7 and a half feet tall.
Good to know.
This movie is a masterpiece of subverting expectations, unlike a lot of movies which just use it as a gimmick. At the beginning the squad is shown of as this indestructible, macho machine that just obliterates everyone in the camp. Similar to other action movies during 80's. But eventually end up getting picked off one by one by Predator, seemingly helpless and powerless after all the bravado.
This is one reason why I disagree with them about not seeing the ship makes the movie better. I like the fact that we as an audience knows that this group of unfazed, macho tough guys is about to experience an alien creature. I feel like us being in on the twist while these guys think it's something that can be explained away gives us advanced empathy for the characters. But at the same time the writers only show us the ship and we still get to learn the alien technology methodically throughout the film. This movie is almost a horror movie more than anything else. Definitely one of my top 10 films of the 80s.
I see this same comment, on every review for this movie lol
More than that, it's actually kind of a parody of 80s action, especially movies like Commando. But eventually the tone changes and it becomes more like a slasher film but with a hyper-masculine adult men instead of hyper-sexualized young women. Also, McTiernan didn't add the spaceship shot. That was tacked on without his knowledge.
If they had thrown their weapons away, in theory they should have survived.
Predator is one of the greatest action movies ever created.
Little Tidbits:
1) Showing the Alien spaceship in the beginning apparently was a studio mandate. Thinking audiences would not know what’s going on so it was added post production. I think the director was not even aware of it.
2) originally the creature looked horrible. Like a salmon colored rubber suit mantis, which was played by Jean Claud Van dam. You can find it online. They had to scrap that and start from new, needles to say it was 100% the right move.
3) if you I want another great campy/ cheesy Arnold movie, you should watch True Lies. It’s Arnold and James Cameron together and it’s one of the best early 90s action movies.
Regarding the director's knowledge of any changes to the film, this is a union film. As a DGA (Director Guild of America) signatory, 20th Century Fox is obligated to inform the Director of any changes (Either through studio screening rooms or VHS tapes.) Although they can't do anything regarding changes to the film, they do have the right, per contract, to have their name removed from the credits and replaced with the pseudonym Alan Smithee. (The fact that the director's actual name was still in the credits means he signed off on the final version of the feature.) An example of this would be the 1984 original theatrical version of Dune, which lists "Alan Smithee" in the credits.
The 1) studio mandate was on point.
@ But the suggestion about the director "not knowing" wasn't "on point."
@@draskang most monster designs look hokey compared to Stan Winston's work
Commando is a pretty fun watch too.
Billy is a true First Nations warrior.
He understood that he was going to die, so he choose to meet his fate straight up, having prepared himself for death, while looking at it in the eyes, and not running away like a coward.
Respect.
R.I.P. Sonny Landham
Yup, and if he had run he might have lived, instead his honour as a man made him do something so stupid as sacrificing himself for nothing. He dies with just a scream, implying that it was utterly pointless.
The entire movie is a subversion of the macho trope since Dutch beats the Predator by using a mix of the feminine cunning and the masculine violence. In every other instance where the soldiers used macho only they died. A critique of toxic masculinity before the term even existed. All because Mc `Tiernan wanted to make a different action movie, his next movie was Die Hard where all these desires came to fruition.
@@nielsjensen4185 Because men can't be cunning and women can't be violent.
I think I felt braincells die from how stupid your whole comment was.
It's just an 80's action movie, same as all the others.
@@Outrider85 They're traditionally gendered values. If you ask anyone who believes in traditional gendered values then they'll tell you that women should never be violent and men should only ever feel two emotions, stoicism, and anger, because, "real men never show emotions," and, "real men fight for what they want."
And you're incorrect. Predator is a horror movie disguised as an action movie. You're correct about the original intention being that it should just be an enjoyable movie since the tools used to see these things were only invented a couple of decades after the movie was made.
The first 1/3 of the movie sets up Dutch's soldiers as supreme badasses through the use of action set-pieces. The next good part of the movie then tears that down as they're unable to deal with the Predator by acts of manly violence. Hudson even cracks jokes to relieve the tension. He's unable to cope with the fact that he's feeling fear so he cracks his jokes to lower it so he can go back to being stoic in the face of this terror.
Everyone else using violence only dies pointlessly. Nowhere is this seen more explicitly than in Billy's death. He confronts the Predator, something that should make the Predator feel honoured, instead, we just hear Billy's death scream and if left with the uncomfortable imagination that the Predator just plowed right through him as it saw him as nothing more than a trophy even though he displayed extreme manliness by confronting it directly.
@@nielsjensen4185 there's no reason or expectation for the alien to feel honored. Honor is a social construction, meant to systematize violent conflict and make it controlled and productive. The alien didn't care. And Billy's last stand was the only real example of any of the men doing something that made no strategic sense.
These last two comments are filled with nothing but loathing for the entire concept of masculinity. Any kind of explicit power without shame, any kind of embrace of strength instead of shunning it and embracing vulnerability, is referred to as stupid, blind obedience to an idiotic archetype. I hope that at some point in the future, this kind of discussion is catalogued and held up as an example of how an ideal that tried to create balance and thoughtfulness almost immediate swung over and created disgust, because this is hatred. When defensive men talk about how kids are being taught to hate masculinity, this is what they're talking about, and no matter how much it's laughed off or mocked, it's no better than what it tries to fight.
Love the two of you. I been re-watching my entire generation through your eyes. You can't know how much this means to me. I remember the exact movie theatre and the feelings after I left this movie back in the 80s. To re-see this with young, new audience? It just means a lot. Thank you for uploading this!
There is more Predator lore and backstory in Predator 2
You’re so right about this movie being really good at building suspense and tension (we don’t see the Predator’s face till 45 minutes in)
You asked a question about the camouflage paint . It doesn’t matter what the pattern of the camouflage is the idea is to break up a solid mass . Human beings can see colour however the majority of animals do not show by breaking up the solid mass you blend in to your surroundings more for example if you were a Deer Hunter it wouldn’t matter if your camouflage colour was blue orange or yellow just as long as it had the breaking up with a solid mass. it would be harder for the animal to see you.
@@-M0LE I could see your point in things like sports and stuff maybe but not for a hunters
It actually does matter where you put colors when it comes to camouflage paint. There is a guide on how to apply it in the military soldier's manual. Black for the lighter areas of your face (forehead, chin, cheeks, tip of your nose). Lighter colors (green/brown) would be used to break up the contours of your face such as the jawline. Obviously, in movies and tv shows they just use patterns because it looks cool. However, you wouldn't see patterns like that in the actual military.
@@technopirate304 Only because the point of being a movie star is to be recognizable and conveying emotions with your face. Proper camo would obscure all that so you'll never see any kind of mainish character in a movie wear it properly, even if they know how to.
It also breaks up patterns. Human brains pick up patterns with ease.
I used to play paintball and after a while you could recognize most standard camo patterns even in the woods.
That's when the smarter guys started to use leafaflage strips added to their gear. Something close to a ghillie suit but not as extensive.
Thank you for that, really. Thats some knowlege am gonna pass to my sons.
The Yautja ( Predators ) are one of my favourite alien species. Unfortunately the movies go steeply downhill after P2, but the comics are pretty good. The first AvP comic is perfection.
Predators was good what you mean?
@@kingcaesar3693 agree love the movie
Batman vs. Predator is also good.
This is one of the rare movies that doesn't waste a single shot. I feel like every shot is used to its fullest to keep that tension on. Even the part where Arnold jumps off the cliff, you think you have a moment to breathe, but you don't.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the studio added the shot of the spaceship at the beginning against the director’s wishes so people would know the Predator came from outer space. McTiernan wanted the buildup and the big reveal of the Predator.
Pretty sure I red this somewhere too. Reveals the whole move in the opening one minute. Great work!
McTiernan still had the buildup & reveal given that being from space doesn't cover what kind of creature it is.
@@jathomas9928 No, it doesn't. Apart from the spaceship, the film never reveals that it's an alien. The mystery is what kind of species it is regardless of where it came from.
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George and Simone's tshirt game is on point once again. #Nirvana
Arm wrestling+big biceps=Over The Top starring Sylvester Stallone. You're welcome Simone.
I walked in on my dad watching this movie when i was 5 or 6 and instead of shooing me away he explained greenscreens and movie effects to me. And then let me watch the movie with him.
I've never been afraid or had bad dreams from movies ever since then.
So I have some great memories of this movie :)
Did you guys spot the meme when Dutch meets Dillon?
@@CraftsWithCrafts - It used to be that people asked if you saw the movie to the meme; now people ask if you saw the meme. I'm gonna go be old now.
16:38 "It looks like a Protoss!" Funny you should mention that; Starcraft took some pretty heavy design inspiration from the Aliens and Predator franchises. While the Zerg are a bit more obviously Aliens with the serial numbers filed off, the Protoss definitely drew inspiration from Predator.
same as the halo franchise it has homages to the alien franchise
Protoss is more Eldar-inspired, and Zerg Tyranid-inspired. They were hoping Games Workshop would let them do PC warhammer games at the time, but in the end wasn't chosen.
Two things I've learned from this movie reaction:
1) This is the horniest we have ever seen Simone. Get it, girl!
2) When they get to react to some baseball movies, George can't say 'pitching'.
Great reaction as always, guys.
So much for the great "Field of Dreams".
she was def pitching a semi
The word was "pinching"
When it comes to tactical face-paint the pattern definitely makes a difference, the proper way to apply it is; apply dark colors to highly reflective areas of the face (forehead, bridge of nose, cheek bones) and apply light colors to darker areas of the face (around eyes, lower cheeks, under chin) then blend together. If done correctly you can't even recognize your best friend, no one in this film uses the facepaint correctly.
Because you wouldn't recognize the actors anymore. The whole idea of proper camo is antithetical to the movie stardom.
@@raifthemad Yup
They all use it like warpaint rather than camouflage. That's not what real soldiers do.
C'mon, use your 80s logic man! They're not gonna show the PROPER way to apply camo paint on screen because the USSR might take notes! LMAO
Conan had enjoyable camo faces as well.
I actually love the scene where they shoot at the trees. So the story is the studio saw a rough cut of the movie and sent a note back to the director for more gunfights and explosions. So he shot that whole scene out of spite to the suits at the studio. And it made it to the final cut awesome.
That’s hilariously American. Firing over 1,000 rounds of ammo out of spite.
@@MellowGrunt10 I guess they weren't specific on how to use the gunfire. I love the saltiness of it though.
It's called the "mad minute".
The minigun alone fires (on average) 4,000 rounds per minute, so 66 rounds per second. I have no idea how they fit a metric ton of ammunition and a car battery to power it into that backpack but I'm so happy they did :)!
@@dr.burtgummerfan439 pretty sure the point was dont send me any more stupid notes. It does work well in the scene though
I still remember being a kid and going with a group of friends to the theatre when this came out and being amazed at the story and the concept of an alien hunting them down in the middle of a jungle. Well done, my fellow Canadians!
One of my all-time favorite films. The story behind the creature design is interesting. Originally, the creature was played by Jean-Claude Van Damme wearing a big rubber suit that looked like a bug. There's footage of it. It looks terrible. They eventually scrapped the idea and brought in Stan Winston, who was one of the best-known effects guys in the industry (Arnold knew him from working on Terminator). Winston designed the new creature, and the rest is history.
Well, now you have to watch 'Commando' with Arnold, for maximum 80's action cheese. It's glorious!
You gotta admire the ABSOLUTE Brilliance of this movie
It starts like any 80's Action flick, with a Highly trained squad of US military that dispense Freedom at 2000 rounds per minute to South Americans.
Not only showing that they have the skills and the Fire Power, but also the Attitude of Grizzled Veterans and Sonofabitches.
Only for the movie to do a total 180* where those Bad Asses that had enough Testosteron to impregnant a whole darn State by their sheer presence, gets picked One by One by an Unknow enemy, to whom their skills and firepower Means shit, where they start to break mentaly and are under immense stress, even tho we saw them moments before shrugging off danger like it was nothing.
From an Action flick it become a Thriller/Horror movie.
For it to ONCE again shift into something else during the final climax of the movie, where the Hunter becomes the Hunted and Arnie uses the Predator's own tactics against it before duking it out Mano-a-Mano with one of the Most intimidating and Bad Ass looking Alien that cinema ever made.
Once Again John McTiernan showing a Masterful movie that flips any preconceived notions that you would have on its head to give High entertainement of the best kind.
This is an ABSOLUTE Cult Classic of Cinema and anyone telling you otherwise is One Ugly Motherfucker.
The pattern doesn't really matter as long as you darken the parts of the face that are normally light and lighten the parts that are normally darker, essentially trying to "flatten" the face. This really helps prevent people recognising that they are actually looking at a face. Many people that use camo have their own favourite methods, although blotchy patterns tend to be favoured over say, pretending to be a member of KISS.
So white paint around the eyes, under the nose, and a white soulpatch, and then paint everything else black?
Right. It's so your face looks like something other than a human face. Israeli troops wear 'chef's hat" helmet covers to help break up their human outline. Camouflage is cool!
Humans are very good at spotting human shapes and faces. The paint breaks up your regular features the same way they'll tuck leaves or ferns to their shoulders, helmets to brake the shape
One of the greatest creatures ever designed for cinema, alongside the Xenomorph from Alien (there's a reason there are crossovers between these two franchises).
Now though, you HAVE to do Predator 2 at some point. You can probably skip the others (Predators isn't so bad I guess). But imo, Pred 2 is even better than the original.
Danny Glover was fucking great in that. Wasn't Bill Paxton in Predator 2 as well as Aliens?
@@yakamen He was. Also in Terminator. Him and Lance Henrikson are the only two actors to have been killed by all 3 big bads.
@@Hawk_of_Battle What fucking legends. GOD I miss being a kid and growing up with these movies.
I haven't seen the sequel. Is it really that good? Why do ppl not rate it as highly?
Ok, I'll admit it, you guys are the most entertaining movie reactors I've seen in a looooong time lol
thank you that means a lot ^_^
Agreed!
@@-M0LE Found Devin G yet?
Shout out to After Work Reactions too.
@@-M0LE Dev is my fav. Agree on James v, don't know primate. Hon. mention to KrautWatch, Jimmy Macram, and Caped Informer.
Now you need to watch "Commando". Its basically peak Arnold 80's cheese, and just as awesome.
So much cheesier than this one.
Let off some steam Bennett
Yeah, I don't consider Predator to be cheese at all.
Anna said earlier in the film "the creature or makes trophies out of man".
Also when the Yautja shot at Dutch after he kicked the gun out of Anna's hand he didn't shoot Dutch. He shot the gun. Also the reason why he kicked the gun out of her hand is because it's in the Yautja honor code not to kill anything that isn't armed with some form of weapon.
Also at the end of the film the piolet of the helicopter was Kevin Peter Hall. It was his face cameo in the film because he played the Yautja. He was in the suit. He is like 7'3”. He played the Jungle Hunter and and Urban Hunter in the 1st and 2nd Predator movies before he died in 1991.
Idk about anyone else but sonny landem and Carl weathers had me cracking up in this movie when sonny says “we’re all gonna die” after giving a big speech and Carl saying “man’s losing his cool, nothing but a couple guys running around out there and we gotta take em down.” Lmfao 🤣
I always liked how the Predator fought Dutch hand to hand lol. Dutch had obviously gained the Predator’s respect by this point but it seemed like the Predator was also just done with Dutch’s crap. Seemed to me like the predator was frustrated for not being able to kill Dutch like it did the rest of his squad. It was basically thinking “Okay, you little prick, I’ve had it with your bullshit” when it had him by the throat. Lol
The Running Man, Total Recall, Conan the Barbarian, Conan the Destroyer, Red Sonja, The Terminator & T2 are all amazing 80s Arnie cheese that I love! (Yes T2 was '91, but it's still an A.S movie that SHOULD be watched)... The Expendables 1,2&3 all play on the fact that they hark back to the 80's action cheese, as all of the 80s action stars are in them, including Arnie :)
Loving the new graphics with Simone's face. I didn't think we could top Roger Rabbit but here as Arnold is fabulous!
Also George at the start "This movie is swimming in Testosterone". You ain't seen nothing yet!
Loving the reaction to the movie, you guys are highly entertaining and I really enjoy the dynamic of you working things out as the movie goes along.
The actor that plays the helicopter pilot at the end of the movie is also the one that brought the predator creature to life in both this movie as well as the sequel. His name was Kevin Peter Hall and he unfortunately passed away in 1991 due to an AIDS related illness at the age of 35.
20:35 Yep, tht's exactly what this was: Collecting trophies. The Predator is simply on a hunting trip, that's all. However he's only interested in hunting the most dangerous prey whic is the reason why he hunts down elite soldiers and guerilla fighters. And its also the reason why he usually only hunts men (more dangerous adversaries).
By the way - the predator's skull collection is in no way more gruesome than the stuffed animal heads human hunters collect. It's actually exactly the same.
The "shooting up the jungle" scene was the directors response to the studio wanting "more shooting action" in the movie
@@technopirate304 Oh it was, but awesome to look at... IT was the testosterone drizzle on the predator cake.
Well, in their defense, they had a freakin' minigun. You wanna get your mileage out of one of those babies.
I know this was months ago, but for the scene when mac starts firing into the jungle, then the rest come in and start firing. When all you know is there a dead squad mate on the ground, another screams CONTACT and is blanketing the area with mini gun fire, you’re not going to stop and ask questions. You are going to fire your weapon as much as you can as fast as you can to make sure whatever threat is out there is dead. The questions can come after.
Jim Hopper and his men got into a firefight firing in all directions and hit nothing. The moment you're laughing while they fire into the jungle is the scariest part of the entire movie. This crack team of commandos has been reduced to scare children.
The sound effects editing for Predator was brilliant. In movie theaters with good sound systems, you would often know where the alien was from the rustling of leaves and the crackling of tree branches. This added to the suspense since the audience would sometimes know where the camouflaged creature was before the characters in the film had any clue. This was especially effective on the big screen where the director could sonically place the creature above and below, and to the left and right of the soldiers.
"Whatever this is it's DEFinitely necessary" made LOL for real. 🤣
Everyone always says that about Arnolds arm. If you watch it back, his gun takes the blast and is split in half. He gets some shrapnel in his shoulder, but doesn’t take the blast.
The first time I watched this movie, I stumbled across it on tv. I somehow managed to miss just the first minute with the spaceship, and didn't know that scene existed until I re-watched it. Watching the whole first half of the movie not knowing it's an alien makes it so much better.
With facepaint you are trying to break up the silhouette of your face so either a blotch or a stripe works as long as its a bit random. But yeah generally its a gecko blotchy look or a tiger/zebra stripe. We just copy nature because it figured it out for us.
You have got to react to Predator 2 (1990) ... no Arnold, but a worthy sequel. It continues the storyline 10 years after the events here. To quote from the trailer - "He's in town with a few days to kill."
"You know what that was ?"
Yup. One of the greatest sci fi/action movies ever made.
I love watching people new to these movies saying things like “Stan Winston… why does that name sound familiar?” Because he designed pretty much every iconic creature from the 80s and 90s!
One of the BEST Predator reaction videos I've seen so far ( and I watch them ALL ). Simone & George come into this knowing nothing which is perfect because they have no idea what to expect, which allows them to be completely surprised with each development. They are in the same boat as the characters, trying to figure out what's happening each step of the way!
Watching them react with no knowledge was a great example of why decision to show the spacecraft at the beginning of the movie was really dumb. It would’ve been far more effective storytelling to let the viewer learn what’s hunting them at the same time as Dutch & the team learns.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 IMO that's debatable. In movies there is a delicate balance between letting the audience know too much or too little information. If a watcher knows TOO little, it could create confusion and lessens the enjoyment if someone doesn't quite understand what's going on. This is exactly what happened in the move Star Wars. The original cut of the movie didn't have the opening scroll, and first time watchers were just lost they couldn't make sense of all the weird things they saw. They then ADDED the famous scrolling text to provide a bit of context. In Predator you do see the ship drop something on earth but you still don't know what it is, so still somewhat mysterious. I think that provides barely enough context for watchers to interpret the events that unfold. To me Predator stuck a reasonable balance between too much and too little info, but of course that's subjective.
@@claw320 I saw this when it first came out without the spaceship opening. And yes, some people complained that they couldn't understand where the creature came from. I recall someone thinking that the Predator was a human in the armor suit until the later reveal. So yeah, for some the movie was too confusing without the spaceship reveal. They did something similar in The Thing.
@@henrytjernlund Yeah but if you don't get it, ask a friend.. Because it was pretty clear.. this thing ain't from the neighborhood. And if you're the type of person that is asking questions in a theater for an action flick in the 80s... There is nothing an opening space scene can do for you...
Watching her being so hyper and into this movie must be like the experience of people watching it in the theater when it came out. I don't feel like there would be near this much of a reaction for any movie now.
I swear, Simone's introductions get funnier every time lol
Fun fact: the Predator's speech patterns (those clicks and ticks) were done by Peter Cullen (the voice of Optimus Prime, Eeyore, and many more) after he had done the sounds for King Kong. His throat was fucked up from the constant roars, grunts, and growls he performed. He wanted a low-effort gig while his throat was healing. So, he went to recors this. He got there and requested that they show him what the creature look like to get an informed performance. His first though about it was that the face reminded him of a dying horseshoe crab he saw on a beach when he was young. He remembered the air cracking and popping as the crab's shell had been punctured, so he used a similar sound for the creatures vocal qualities. To my knowledge, he did at least the first two films. Every film after that just re-uses those sounds. Also, Kevin Peter Hall deserves all the credit for the physical performance. He was a great creature actor, and may he rest in peace. He was taken way too soon.
A few points for your consideration. The scene where they’re all shooting blindly into the jungle for a couple minutes was John McTiernan reacting to the studio’s demands for “more gun action.” His response was make it completely ridiculously over-the-top, basically saying “You want gun action? HERES SOME GUN ACTION THEN! _HAPPY NOW?!“_
The guy who played Hawkins, the solider with the glasses, is Shane Black, the script writer who invented the buddy cop genre when he wrote the _Lethal Weapon_ movies. He’s one of the great Hollywood writers now, and his latest one, _The Nice Guys,_ you should really check out.
Also, I don’t know if anybody else has mentioned this, but the opening “spaceship” shot was added post-production because the studio thought the audience wouldn’t “get” the setup. The original script kept the monster’s origins secret until halfway through, and even then you wouldn’t be sure of _what_ it actually was until the final reveal.
I love this movie. It takes the entire over the top 80s action movie and drops it right on its head.
And yes, if done correctly face paint can help hide you. What you see in the movie is not done correctly. The entire idea behind camouflage is to break up your silhouette because the human mind wants to pick out things that it recognizes. Like faces. You need irregular patterns covering the entire face for that.
yeah, picaso was into that I think, pareidolia, gotta love the way they camouflaged ships like the britannic, which was essentially the titanic, back in the day, what a crazy time...
@@wheelmanstan I think you mean the Olympic because IIRC, Britannic was a hospital ship so it was painted white.
I'm actually really stoked you two enjoyed this, glad I voted for it. Tons of fun watching you react to this. Tossing in yet another plug to watch _The Hunt for Red October,_ another fantastic McTiernan flick. And it's currently up on Amazon Prime, if you happen to have that.
how did you see this two weeks ago? It only just appeared in my sub box 3 minutes ago.
@@TacticalSandals Patrons get early access.
The Hunt for Red October is running for free on UA-cam.
Personally I think 'Das Boot' is a MUCH better submarine movie.
@@TacticalSandals true, but Red October is second and a great thriller. Das Boot is an awesome war movie with great realism but it gets little recognition from reactors because it's an old German film. They should watch both.
18:20 Billy went in with only a knife because he bet on the Predator having a some kind of code of honor when it comes to hunting their prey - which they in fact do. Predators only use their guns if their prey can attack long distance - if they fight melee, so does the Predator.
One of the sequels has a pretty bad-ass scene with a Yakuza guy with a katana going up against a predator
I love the soundtrack to this. Perfect blend of suspense and action score! Composed by Alan Silvestri, same guy behind Back to the Future.
True Lies, Commando, Conan, and Last Action Hero all deserve a watch!
Definitely check out the sequel. Predator 2 is different but still good.
Predator 2 is definitely worth watching, guys! It might not have Arnie in it, and the setting may be completely different, but a lot of the elements are retained while at the same time doing something new.
"Stan Winston. Why does that sound familiar?" EYE ROLL OF THE CENTURY
Jean Claude van Damme played the Predator in some parts, but quit production as he was tired of wearing the original suit, which looked like a giant lizard/insect hybrid with legs like that of a goat.
Kevin Peter Hall, 7'2" was cast as the Predator. James Cameron, whom worked on The TERMINATOR with Winston, came up with the design of the mandibles.
It's just a shame they messed up the predators face for most if not all the sequels
@@RinzlerWraith how??
@@abq4565 theres a vid that goes into more detail about it, here ua-cam.com/video/fNiLv8wBJX4/v-deo.html but they messed up the mouth mandibles. In the original film they were "biologically" functional they served a purpose. Which they neglected in all the sequels. Once i saw it, the face became less impactful imo
fantastic movie + reaction!
John McTiernan made some of the best movies in the late 80's/90s: Predator(1987), Die Hard(1988), Hunt For Red October(1990) and the underrated The 13th Warrior(1999), all recommended!
One of the best movie screams in cinema history:
Bill Duke's "CONTACT!!!!" 11:42
Stan Winston did the special effects for "The Terminator", "Aliens", "Terminator 2", "Predator". The last thing he did before he passed away was he developed the suit for the first "Iron Man" film.
Wicked, Predator is awesome. Fun fact the voice of the Predator is Canadian voice actor Peter Cullen who has also been voicing Optimus Prime since the 80's
Hell yeah captain kirk😁
@@ChrisBrown-rf3yp It's what I do Rihanna's Ex
@@KingSaintClair 😂😂
I heard there were arguments over whether to show the spaceship clip at the start. I THINK the story is the director didn't want the scene and removed it, but the studio put it back and insisted on keeping it.
its true and the same deal with The Thing. Studio execs dont believe that general public is intelligent enough to figure these things out on our own. So both Predator and The Thing has the spaceship tacked on against both directors wishes.
@@Kronical69420 I think it hurts more The Thing movie than the Predator.
I always found the Yautja (or as we know them Predators) fascinating. Intergalactic tribal hunters is the easiest way to describe them. Supposedly the females are actually MORE dangerous than the males but that is just according to backstory lore...we have never seen one in films. The females raise the young on the homeworld and then when old enough the Predators go out into space and try to prove their worth by collecting trophies of creatures...only the most impressive trophies are of interest to them...the rest they tend to just kill. To them planets are hunting grounds and the creatures living on those worlds are simply prey...its that simple to them. The first battle was kind of important because the predator was watching them like "so...this is how they fight..." he was learning about them. But they do have an honour code; they don't kill unarmed people, not women (unless they attack first) or sick people or elderly (unless they attack first). Their technology is extremely advanced and like nothing our world has ever known and one of the biggest rules of their code is "if you are going to die...destroy all evidence" so basically a for of hara-kiri or suicide...they destroy their technology to stop enemies learning about it. We know they have encountered many powerful species (form the films and comics we can put this together) including the dinosaurs, the xenomorphs from ALIEN, humans and various other alien species.
It is also a theory that part of the reason Humanity managed to enter space age in ALIEN was because they got a hold of Predator tech and reverse engineered it to advance to the space age.
@Latest Obsession oh you’re talking about Prey
@Latest Obsession except the predator in prey was never stated to be female. and he wasnt in the final movie. also, the game "predator: hunting grounds" retconned all previous infos about female yautja being bigger than males - they are roughly the same size. slimmer but faster.
@Latest Obsession fair, but neither are comics and old books and such. If we go purely by movie canon, we have no idea how female yautjas look, or what role they play in their society. In the extended universe, the game is the most up to date info we have on them.
Hey George and Sophie, even in the scene right before Dutch tells Dillon they're making a stand, when they're talking about the predator being able to get Blaine's body without them noticing and Dutch saying something about him picking them off one by one, to which Billy responds with " Like A Hunter", that's when the realization hit Dutch
Humans have evolved to see faces. It reached a point where we can see faces in clouds or wood grain, or toast. Face paint is used to hide the things on a face that make it look like a face. The most basic way for this is to put dark colors on the "high" places and light colors on the "low" places. The idea is to flatten the face. for that reason symmetry is bad as well. Darth Maul still looked like a face because it was balanced on each side.
The movie does a massive switch half-way through, from cheesy action flick with over-the-top testosterone, to a slasher movie; with Arnie and his crew the over-sexualised cheerleaders getting picked off one by one.
Also, the helicopter ride at the start is a masterclass in introducing characters. No movie has done a better job of cramming everything you need to know about its cast into such a short time.
The man in the Predator suit, Kevin Peter Hall, was also the helicopter pilot at the end of the movie. He was also the City Hunter in Predator 2 and Harry in Harry and the Hendersons but tragically died of AIDS-related pneumonia after contracting HIV from a blood transfusion after a car accident. He was a giant at 7ft 2.5in.
I saw this movie on TV and missed the beginning, so I never saw the "alien ship coming in", and I agree it's better with the suspense of just slowly figuring out what's going on. Was a bit disappointed to see that scene at the beginning of the movie when I saw it later.
Personally hold this movie in high regard particularly for it one liners and rewatchability! But mostly just love the eighties flicks. Great reaction guys!
This film is a One-Liner goldmine!
This is probably my favorite 80’s action flick, or perhaps it’s tied with Die Hard. Both films were the very best of the genres & were the templates for so many movies that copied, but could never quite recreate, the magic of those films (unless you count Die Hard 2 and 3 or Predator 2, which isn’t as good as the first, but is still a lot of fun).
If you like one liners, “stick around” 😂
Arnie always has the best one liners and he delivers them perfectly too.
Conan the Barbarian (1982) is an overlooked Arnold classic. Maybe because it predates Terminator which was his big breakout movie.
The scene where Shane Black tells Billy the joke about the "echo"----- when I worked for Shane Black as a concept artist on Iron Man 3, I tried to tell him the same joke. BUT!!! I didn't realize there were two female PAs behind me. He stopped me before I got to the juicy part. But he did laugh, and said "catch me with it later. I promise a big Billy laugh." He knew I had to tell him that joke. He understood it was a fan boy moment! Best Boss, talented Director.
I'm glad you both got to see this one. I was invited to go see it in the theater but my parents shot it down saying I was too young (bummer). The face camouflage is an interesting point to make and also serves as foreshadowing during the helicopter scene to show solution to fighting the Predator is full body mud camo (good writing). In the beginning face paint is just there to help with camouflage and terrain. So the colors are more important than the pattern in most instances. I have only used pseudo stipe pattern like Dutch does. But it is very annoying to clean off. It also helps to minimize reflection when you sweat. In this movie it serves very little purpose because their arms are bare. The whole idea is to cover up and leave no human colors to be identified and give away your position. Granted it is like 100 degree 100% humidity so they are using it to keep their faces a little less noticeable when they are looking over cover. You notice that they peek over logs or out of brush before the first battle.
George, I know you thought the alien technology made it unfair, but when you're dealing with hunting, when someone hunts an animal, we don't arm them equally.
me: * throws gun at deer*
also me; " Pick up the gun."
@@StMargorach "IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!" **BLAM**
Although it would be fun to watch a big game hunter go after the lion armed with just some sharpened elongated teeth. and Freddie Kruger gloves 😂
@@nigelthorn2062 Or go after them with a camera instead, to try to get the perfect shot without getting killed. I'll be much more impressed than with someone who shoots a gun from the safety of distance. Wusses. You want to prove to me you are brave? Go up to a grizzly and ask for a closeup! That's badass! ;)
Predator actually keeps it extremely fair. He doesn't hunt non-combatants, fights Arnold in hand-to-hand when he switched to primitive traps and weapons. He fights using alien technology, but humans have the best of the human weapons. They're all armed to the teeth and highly skilled.
Please watch "True Lies"! From James Cameron and also with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I second that, a top notch, brilliant and funny action spectacle.
Like the way hunters mimic animal calls the Predator can imitate us. "Anytime."
Stan "The Man" Winston was a famous creature designer. He brought a lot of modern movie creatures (and the terminators) to life. He even helped in John Carpenter's The Thing, doing the Kennel Thing stuff.
Everyone beat me to explaining the face paint .., Billy was drinking sap from the vine even though he does have a canteen. The reason for this is noise discipline - if you drink any of what's in the canteen, the rest will slosh around as you walk and could give away your position. If you're going to use it all, fine ... either completely full or completely empty.
Actually the vines have water in them and it is clean. During jungle training in Panama (Army had a training center there at Fort Sherman before it was returned to Panama) this was taught to look for food and water naturally occurring to save what you are carrying in case it is needed later or for when you set up in a night hide site.
it is not aboit the sound. It is bcs they jave no fkin clue for how long they will remain in the jungle,so it is smart to conserve the water as long as possible... (it is also to show Billy as a true native,totally in tune with the nature)
Please watch "Harry and the Hendersons" (1987)! "Harry" is played by the same actor as the Predator (Kevin Peter Hall, R.I.P.♥️)!
Jesse Ventura the actor who plays Blain is an actual US special forces veteran. He served in the jungles of Vietnam as a member of a UDT also known as frogmen back in the day (Underwater Demolition Team). The UDT's would later go on to be better known as the USN SEAL teams.