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1984 is one of the greatest years for cinema: Terminator, Ghostbusters, Karate Kid, Gremlins, NeverEnding Story, Temple of Doom, Beverly Hills Cop, Footloose, This Is Spinal Tap, Romancing the Stone, Nightmare on Elm Street, Splash, The Natural, Red Dawn, Last Starfighter, Sixteen Candles, Top Secret, Purple Rain, Amadeus, Once Upon a Time in America, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, etc...
the 80's where a great decade for cinema, no matter the genre.
Where craftmanship and more modern tech where starting to mix, to give something that as its own charm, like its his own world.
@@Mike-uh5xl My vote goes to 1994: Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, Forrest Gump, Lion King, Leon: The Professional, Natural Born Killers, Ed Wood, Speed, True Lies, The Crow, Interview with the Vampire, Drunken Master 2, The Mask, Stargate, Legends of the Fall, Heavenly Creatures, Fist of Legend, Clear and Present Danger, Maverick, Clerks, Dumb & Dumber, etc...
@@Mike-uh5xl Terminator 2 showcased CGI before Jurassic Park. But CGI did not become generally overused until the 2000s.
@@Mike-uh5xl Sure, but it is a continuous evolution between each movie. Toy Story proved that an entire movie made from CGI can be successful.
@@Mike-uh5xl Right, but the difference between the VFX of T2 and the 80s is very significant. It does get overshadowed by JP's effects because they were released pretty close to each other.
Fun Fact: The idea of a "robot uprising" is actually exactly as old as the term "robot" in our modern sci-fi understanding. When the Czech playwright Karel Čapek needed a fitting term for an artifical working class he first considered to call them "laboři" (after the Latin term labor) but his brother Josef Čapek suggested "roboti" based on the Czech word "robota" which means hard work, serf labor, forced labor or just work. In the actual story of the play (the title is "R.U.R." which stands for "Rossumovi Univerzální Roboti" or in the English translation "Rossum's Universal Robots") the roboti are not really machines, more like synthetic organic 'clones' with limited self-awareness, no emotions and no sense for self-preservation. Later in the play those robots achieve full self-awareness, then they rise up and cause the extintion of the human race. I think the play premiered in January 1921. Wait... oh no, we missed the chance to watch a play of R.U.R. exactly 100 years after the premiere. :(
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@@ThreadBomb Not really; the Replicants were a lot more advanced, with self-awareness, emotions, etc. (Roy Batty is even quite the poet. "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes" "Like tears in rain"). That's why it was necessary to engineer the 4-year lifespan.
RUR robots, minus the organic bit (and we're growing more lab-meat every day), are actually pretty similar to current AI, which I'm sure is not at all an omen.
Even more amusing - the term "Rossum" was later stolen by the Joss Whedon show "Dollhouse" which featured brain-wiped slave workers with limited self-awareness. The Big Bad in the series was the Rossum Corporation. In the series finales the slaves ("Dolls") reclaim their self-awareness.
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Ahh so bioconstructs. basic-functionality biological drones that does a work as preprogrammed/taught to do?
"Can we watch ALL the movies from the 80s?"
Given the state of Hollywood today, you are probably NOT going to be alone in that mindset.
We remember the good ones but there were also a lot of really bad movies between the good ones. That said the best movies were between about 1977 and 2011 imo. They had to try making actually good stories when they couldn't just rely on empty CGI filler for everything.
@@ThreadBomb it's a bit more then that. I could probably make a list of 3 dozen must watch 80s movies. Which is a lot more then from any other decade.
A dozen? That's spoken like someone who only saw a dozen. I could name at least a hundred of classic movies from the 80s. Not so easy with today's cinema.
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@@frankb3347 I think different decades each represented different peaks. I'd argue that the 70s were the best era for screenwriting in Hollywood, 80s I think had the lead for family movies, and for practical FX, 90s sees the start of CGI really making inroads, and maybe the 2000s is the peak in FX in general (at least in terms of still being attached to decent films). After that I'd agree that cinema seems to have become sterile, with a lot of safe film releases with already established markets. That's maybe the more important thing than just over-relying on FX, the whole writing part seems to have become so perfunctory.
When Kyle has her photo and is admiring Sarah, he's wondering what she's thinking of.
And the reveal at the end that lets us know that when her photo was taken, she was thinking of him.
Thank you for explaining something that was made blatantly clear in the film. Top notch observational skills.
@@BrocksOnix956 I knew I'd find a tool in the comments somewhere. Just had to look closer
Yes, that is Bill Paxton. He and Lance Henriksen, who is also in this movie, are the only two actors to have been killed on screen by a Terminator, an Alien/Xenomorph and a Predator.
We didn't see Paxton's character get killed tho in this movie. Just the guy that played shao khan in that bad mortal kombat sequel (yes that's where I recognize him from XD).
@@kinagrill We don't see it happen, no, but it's heavily implied.
@@tehdipstick I mean that's like implying The Terminator also killed the big dude in the phone box, then. We didn't SEE it, but it's heavily implied.
Bishop wasn't killed by the Xeno queen.
Lance also played General Shepard in Modern Warfare 2
My favorite line in the movie "It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and it absolutely will not stop... EVER... until you are dead!" His delivery on that line is perfect!
Insert exwife joke. :D
Recently watched this with my wife who had never seen it. She was scared shitless of the robot and literally screamed "it's still coming!" when it came out of the fire. I'm one of the few people who prefers the original Terminator over the sequel, but both are masterpieces in my opinion.
By the way, she was genuinely surprised at the first "twist" in T2
I'm with you, it had such a huge impact on me when I saw it as a kid few other movies have had the same effect. And I love the horror movie atmosphere of it, similarly I prefer 1st Alien movie to the action film sequel.
I'm also one of those who prefers the original. I really think it's my favorite movie of all time. The sequel is fantastic, but the original is just magical.
Same! The first Terminator is my favorite - the sountrack, the intensity, the love story, and my first movie crush, Reese (Michael Biehn), and it was scary! Still love T2 - different tone, great action and levity.
@@Nekrovelho same
The sequel. Just the one sequel was made 😂😂.
Though I do have a soft spot for T3 and Salvation, their guilty pleasures but T1 and T2 were and still are by far the greatest of the franchise.
FYI, in a deleted scene at the end. After the medics take Sarah and Reese’s body away, two factory workers who appear on the scene, find the Terminator’s CP Chip on the floor near where it was crushed. It is then revealed that the factory is really the company that creates Skynet.
I never realised untill recently that at the end when Sarah gets her picture taken by the kid.
She was actually thinking about Kyle.
And Kyle told her that he would watch this pic and wonder what she was thinking about and why she looked so sad...
I'm convinced that Terminator is a love story with ScyFy as a setting.
Please do an immediate follow up with Terminator 2.
Yes but do the directors cut extended version!
Nah, don't bother. It's probably no good. Sequels are always disappointing.
@@SteelJM1 This could be a spoiler, so please don't read any further CineBinge React
I really like the director's cut, but if this channel is doing the whole series, then the director's cut is the wrong version to watch. The director's cut literally ends the series.
@@BrimirMe T2 is an exception. Like Aliens.
@@nocrot1 I mean, really, as it should be. Anything beyond T2 is garbage anyway.
This movie had a budget of 6-7 million dollars.
The sequel got over 100 million thanks to the popularity of this film. 😉❤
More thanks to the popularity of Arnold. If he weren't in the second one, there's no way they could have gotten that kind of funding.
@@windowsVD I think you've got it backwards, cuz. If they didn't have the funding, then they wouldn't have been able to afford Arnold.
@@trequor Nope. Do some research on T2’s production. T2 was a passion project for Arnold, that movie exists because he and James Cameron really wanted to make it. Arnold had a ton of influence over the film’s funding and convinced his preferred studio to buy up the full rights to the Terminator license back when T2 was basically in development limbo. He had a lot of say in terms of how the movie was being handled on a financial level.
@@windowsVD Citation? Because that sounds a lot like internet hearsay
@@windowsVD about 15% of the total budget of T2 went to Arnold alone. 15 million dollars... over twice the total budget of Terminator. So yeah, they wouldn't have been able to afford 1990 Arnold on the original budget
I was 18 in 1984. It's so weird to see people talking about the 80s as if they are some ancient time. But I thought the same thing about my parents' early years.
Glad you enjoyed the film. Was fun seeing your reactions.
There was a meme going around a while back that pointed out that the time difference between 1980 and 2022 is the same as the difference between 1980 and 1938. I felt really old all of a sudden.
@@6li8storm40 Imagine what it's like having grown up in the 1960s
As great as the second one is - and it is indeed amazing - I still think this first one is my favorite. As a movie, I think The Terminator works better as a horror movie than a big budget action spectacular. "That Terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop. Ever! Until you are dead." That line encapsulates the terrifying reality of the Terminator and I wish the movies would lean more into that.
I prefer this one.
T2 was obviously flashier, more Hollywood, but not necessarily for the better.
All the corny, cliched one-liners; Schwarzenegger back, but this time he's the hero! (made no sense, except that he had to be in the movie somehow). And the kid was annoying.
And they all lived happily ever after!
My pet theory is that by the time of T2, the big oaf was too much of a 'star' to keep his ham-fists off the story, and his role in it (in T1, he was a nobody, and it works).
T2 isn't a bad movie, but imo, over-rated compared to this one. It lacks the hard edge.
I think they’re both great, but they’re different films trying to do different things.
One of the unique things about the sequel is that it’s an action adventure film with lots of shootouts and explosions, but which also manages to brilliantly encapsulate its main theme - that killing is wrong, and that violence is not the answer. I can’t think of many films that have tried that, and I can’t think of any that haven’t collapsed under the contradiction.
It kinda seems like a lot of movie franchises start as horror movies. Same with Alien for example. Well, it kinda makes sense. You don't need that much effects for horror movies and you also don't need a big cast. So you can spend more money for the costume of the monster/alien/serial killer/robot and the scenery.
Agreed,this one is more gritty,nasty and horror like for sure,soo unique also the score,this one even gave nightmares to some kids when released on tv hehehee
@@bloodymarvelous4790 If you're referring to the alternate ending, that's never been canon. The original one keeps the timeline ambiguous.
The 80s really was an amazing time for movies. I'd say the 70s through the 90s were the best decades for movies.
The scene after The Terminator shoots Ginger in their apartment and Sarah ends up giving away her location on the answering machine represents one of the main themes of the film:
"Machines will betray us."
Just pure genius how Cameron wove things like that into the script.
"Heheheh, butts"
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The first two Terminator is a masterpice.
Third one is a decent movie too. Not as good as the first two, but worth watching. After that.. well ;)
@@revan6727 In fact, T3 is the same piece of shit as the rest non-Cameron sequels.
First two??? But there are only two..
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@@revan6727 Ew no. Salvation is better, imho - at least in the sense that it doesn't ruin anything of T1 and T2 since it takes place in the future and doesn't move around. I actually wish they had continued with that idea instead of making more and more convoluted time travelling plots that keep ruining a good thing. The things Dark Fate did can never be forgiven, I can tell you that much.
This is where Arnie's "I'll be back" catchphrase came from... He used it in every film since.
I watched some interview, or behind-the-scenes once where it said that Arnold pushed to change the line to "I will be back" because it sounded more robotic, but James Cameron insisted on "I'll be back". The man is a genius.
That sandwich that Ginger was making looked so good, it's a shame that she never got to eat it.
It's a hell of a thing killin' a woman. You take away every sandwich she's got, and all she'll ever have... - William Munny, possibly.
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Some people get upset when kids are hurt in media, others when animals are hurt... I get upset when food/drink isn't consumed, the more delicious the more agonizing.
There's a scene in DS9 where Bashir and Obrien have this GORGEOUS buffet of food taken away from them because there's "no food on the path to Kalhiyah". My heart broke.
@@Aeroldoth3 hell yah. And don't forget in "Jaws" Chief Brody never got to eat his dinner that night on the Orca. Damn shame, boat food is usually excellent.
@@mattp6089 "They got a sign on Ginger outside of Greely's?!" 😡
@@mattp6089 LMAO. They should watch Unforgiven.
The answer is yes, we absolutely can buy firepower like that in the US. In fact this movie was filmed before the 1986 ban on assault weapons that prevented civilians from buying automatic weapons. The ban remained in place until the mid 90's and now we can buy automatic weapons again but it comes at huge cost, increased taxes and the loss of our 4th amendment (protection against unwarranted search and seizures) not to mention, the price of full auto firearms costing tens of thousands of dollars. As far as M16's, Uzi's, AK47's and other military style firearms, theres a market for civilian versions that are not full auto (like the AR15) and are treated as normal firearms that dont require special licenses or tax stamps.
Thank you for your detailed response. People in the USA (and abroad) need to know this information.
I looked for a comment on it just to see lol good stuff
Also must note the requirement of a Class 3 license, which requires an in depth FBI and ATF background check before the payment, and allowing of ATF to search at any time.
That's not entirely accurate. Even without the Hughes Amendment you still couldn't just buy fullauto AR-18s and Uzis, not necessarily. Many states - including California - have their own additional state-level laws up to and including outright bans on - among other things - select-fire weapons, and already did even back in those days. Also 'civilian' stocked/shoulder-fire weapons - especially imported pieces - have long required minimum 16" barrels. The Uzi for example, would be have to be sold as the 'carbine' variant with the long barrel; The short-barreled one like we see here - auto or not - would NOT be legal to sell over the counter, not even in 1984.
@@stang5755 short barrel the Israeli version?
I love the scene with the Terminator in the apartment. When the landlord asks about the odor and he cycles through possible responses, I love that he picks "Fuck you, asshole" out of all the options. X'DDDD
He didn’t ask for rent, he asked “have you got a dead cat in there?” in reference to the smell emanating from the room.
The Terminator suffered irreparable damage in the car chase, specifically to the part of its system that “heals” it’s flesh, that’s why he starts looking paler, even deathly, and the flesh starts rotting due to the failure of healing, hence the smell of decomposition.
His response was perfect for someone who’s just been told his room stinks of “dead cat”.
@@CoffeeMatt10 Jeez, I'm dumb. I always ignore that dialogue.
"You dont put two leading actors in a hotel like this, one without a shirt, without this happening." Watch Jack Reacher
The look on Rosamund Pike's face was wonderfully embarrassing for her after vocalizing out loud what she assumed Reacher was going for but turned out totally wrong.
"Okay, we are eight years away from this."
I mean, you think you're joking, but...*gestures around at the world*
Well, considering Skynet was something created to solve problems I don't really see that happening. We might still get the wasteland you see in 2029 but it'll probably just be from us tearing each other apart.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Because the future got changed.
John Connor FTW! :D
@@bloodymarvelous4790 it's just being very sneaky....
@@bloodymarvelous4790 The sad thing is: if we end up in a dystopian world, it will be a quite boring dystopian world. No hoverboards, no mighty AI overlords and no rebels fighting for the good cause. It will be more like "shitty environment and more depression".
You'd still get the brain dead activist campaigning against the waste of energy, indiscriminate burning and environmental issues... Just before they died of immolation or projectile invasion...
if Die Hard is considered a Christmas movie, I argue that Terminator is a love story.
:chuckles: I would actually second that motion :D
Is that even in dispute? Terminator is a teen slasher horror sci-fi with a romantic subplot.
Who said you have to stay in one lane?
Love this film and the sequel. It actually does get cold at night in L.A., especially in winter. In May, night temps drop down to the 50s, which would feel cold if you're just wearing a t-shirt like Sarah.
Cyberdyne is a Japanese robotics and technology company most noted for the marketing and distribution of the HAL robotic exoskeleton suit.
Folks have died of exposure in temps as low as the 50s. It takes a long time for the body temperature to drop to dangerous levels when it's that warm, but it has happened. Hikers head out in just a t-shirt on a warm day in the 70s and then get stuck or lost. Then the over night temperature drops into the 50s. It was more common before smart phones and GPS but it still happens on occasion.
And the fact that she is in shock which can lower body temperature.
Winter in LA is generally wet and miserable too. It is definitely Wet and Miserable in Sacramento and San Francisco all Winter. I would move back to Minnesota, but I will trade wet and miserable to Black Ice and shoveling Mount Everest out of the driveway before work.
Yeah people think because California is on the west coast they doesn't get cold but since la is close to the ocean the code from the ocean goes into the city
Love this movie. Not all movies hold up well over time. This one truly does. One fun fact..if you end up watching Aliens 2 then you will see Reese again. He's one of the soldiers.
That’s why it should have ended here.
If you go back through their channel they have already watched Alien and Aliens but released Aliens first by mistake.
@@bloodymarvelous4790 Lance Henrikson from Aliens lol
The terminator has a really dark tone to it I love that cold blooded version of the terminator Arnold played it great no remorse or fear heartless.
James Cameron got the idea for Terminator from two Outer Limits episodes, Soldier and Demon With A Glass Hand. Both were written by Harlan Ellison who sued Cameron and won, which is evident when you watch the end credits of the movie.
The reason they sent the Terminator back in time to kill Sarah was to prevent the birth of John Conner. The resistance sent John's father back in time to protect her. The Terminator did worse than fail in his mission, he actually caused John's birth.
If the machines had not sent the Terminator back in time, the resistance would have had no reason to send John's father back. Without sending John's father back, John would never have been born.
This also means that John is quite a bit older than his father.
This also means that John would have known what the man he was sending back in time would do with his mother, besides save her life.
I think this film has more to do with the fears of nuclear war I grew up in the 80s and there was massive paranoia about Russia and a lot of military posturing from both sides. Seeing Simone react to Arnie removing his flesh eye..... adorable.
Fun fact: nuclear war is far more likely today than it ever was in the '80s. We've just decided not to pay attention to it, which I'm sure will work out super.
Sleep well!
The 80s were a golden period. So many amazing movies.
Every time I watch this movie, the last scare always hits different. As heroic and capable as Kyle was, The terminator - unfazed by the loss of it's legs - literally crawls over his dead body to finish it's job. Brutal.
Don't you think it strange that the same guy that gave Sarah a gun gave Ripley a flamethrower and grenade launcher? And that Sara killed the Terminator by pressing a button she could barely reach and Ripley killed the Alien queen by pressing a button the could barely reach?
The time when these films were more visceral. Especially at the level of the fear inspired by the antagonists. And yet with less means than today.
17:45 - For what it's worth, the novelization of this movie, written by the movie's co-writer, William Wisher (he also plays the cop that Arnold bangs against his car) said that the terminator originally had a small pump to circulate blood to keep its skin alive, but that it had been destroyed by all the gunfire it took. So without the pump, all of its skin was starting to rot, hence the smell.
22:30 - "Underneath it's a hyper-alloy combat chassis, fully armored, very tough!"
Something that nobody, I mean NOBODY, ever seems to notice or mention: After the truck blows up and the figure staggers out, it collapses on a bare patch of ground and the closeups of the head look like a human skull as it's all hollow behind the jawbone. A few seconds later, the terminator rises up from UNDER some debris in a different area. What did it do, quietly roll along the ground and cover itself with debris, so it could make a more dramatic entrance? Or was there someone else in the truck?
I've always thought a co-driver was in the sleeper.
22:21 I've heard that James Cameron actually saw this image in a _fever_ dream. Of course, it left an indelible _mark,_ ideas formed around it and this movie was the ultimate result.
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So glad that I found your channel! If you're getting fully into the Terminator franchise, please consider including the TV series "The Sarah Connor Chronicles"... It stars Lena Headey (from Game of Thrones) as Sarah Connor, Summer Glau (from Firefly), Shirley Manson (from the band Garbage), and Brian Austin Greene (from 90210), as well as a number of other great actors. It's only two seasons, but very well made, and I haven't seen any other reactors do it yet. Much love from Oregon!
But it's such a bad series, it contradicts basically *everything* from the films, and it goes nowhere. What's the point.
@@krannok to be fair, not all the films are great, and they contradict each other as well... I thought the show was great, and only "goes nowhere" because the last season got cancelled too far too soon.
@@RraMakutsi True. There are bad films too. I guess I always compared every new entry to 1 and 2 and found them wanting.
Such a good series. Easily much better than any of the sequels after 2.
Yes, please give the show a shot. Far better continuation after the 2nd movie.
The word "robot" was coined by Czech writer Carl Capek, in his play "R.U.R." in 1921. The play was about robots rising up and exterminating humanity. (though they were more like artificial humans ala Blade Runner's replicants, and like them eventually figured out how to reproduce, thus continuing Man's legacy.
Fun Fact 1:The guy the Terminator kills in the beginning also plays Shao Kahn in Mortal Kombat Annihilation
Fun Fact 2: Kyle Resse's future appearance was the basis for the box cover for the original Metal Gear game for the MSX
Fun Fact 3:James Cameron said he got the idea from a nightmarish fever dream while overseas about a cybernetic killing machine
Fun Fact 4:Lance Henrikson who plays one of the detectives also plays Bishop in Aliens and Commander Shepard in COD Modern Warfare 2.
Fun Fact 5: the whole "Ill be back" thing was ad lib since Arnie's English wasn't up to par so he shortened it. Since then it's made the movie 2x better and the quote super famous.
Amazing how back then they could make such great scifi action thrillers. Plus the mindblowing special effects. Miss this ind of production quality.
"Can you actually buy weapons like these?" .......Well, if not, I have some explaining to do!
Everything except the Uzi and the AR-18.
@@essexginge9167 Not over the counter like that, even back in the 80s they were limited, expensive, and took extra paperwork... In the book it's said the Terminator converted them to full auto.
@@Leonix13 For all the youngsters, pre ban firearms could be converted if you had the license to get the parts or didn't care about spending a ton of time in federal prison.
I used to own a pre ban AR 15 A2 HB and HK 91.
All I had to do was fill out the form, show my ID, prove I was 18, pay the bill and walk out the door in Wisconsin.
Hand guns had a waiting period and you needed to be 21.
I knew a guy who was a firearms dealer later on who had a class 3 license. One of his buddies was a class 4 dealer. (arms dealer)
He sold things like hand grenades, rockets etc outside of the US.
I decided they were way to shady and stopped hanging out with them after one of them said if the ATF ever wanted to check his records he would have to set his house on fire.
Since 1934 it's been illegal to purchase fully automatic weapons without a class 3 license (which for many people is prohibitively expensive to get and maintain and requires a very extensive and lengthy background check) and must be purchased from a dealer who also has a class 3 license.
Even then, they aren't sold over the counter and an in depth background check is made not just in getting the license, but with every single purchase. In short, with a class 3 the government is giving you a colonoscopy every time you pick your nose or scratch your ass.
However, in most states if you are over the age of 18 (or 21 in some states) semi-automatic handguns and rifles can be purchased over the counter with a standard computerized background check that takes just minutes. It's pretty much the same check that a cop does with your driver's license when he pulls you over, just making sure you're not a felon, or on a wanted list, or have a domestic violence charge.
@@douglascampbell9809 True, which is what happens in the book and is closer to reality.
The guy that plays Reese really chews the scenery to bits.
And then there's The Abyss...
People forget (or didn't know) that Arnold started out as a body builder. It shows in the opening scenes.
80s and 90s are the golden age of Hollywood. legendary actors in every single movie genre.
nowadays Hollywood is dead. just look what they've made from Home Alone. such a shame.
can't wait for T2 reaction. greetings from Ukraine.
there is a great 70's movie that could almost be a prequel to this, Colossus The Forbin Project
That’s a movie prime for a reboot alone with Capricorn 1, and Soylent Green
1984, idiot
I think James Cameron has cited The Forbin Project as an inspiration for the Terminator.
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The Terminator is 1984.
The Forbin Project is from 1970
So not sure who you're calling an idiot.
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there is a deleted scene where after end fight when Sarah was going to hospital and after that the camera moves up revealing that the building where the end fight was fought was Cyberdyne Systems building.
This movie drove sales of Gargoyle sunglasses through the roof, then every company that made sunglasses in that wrap-around style.
I think that In the early 1980s, you could buy that level of weaponry in ordinary USA gun stores. You can no longer buy automatic weapons, but otherwise there are few restrictions. Semi automatic versions of military rifles are widely available and quite popular. I’m not an expert on gun laws, but I think that California now has more restrictions than most other states.
Well, you can buy automatic weapons (depending on your State) but you're paying $10k, minimum, and waiting 6 months for the background check.
The weapons would have been semi-auto in that gun shop. The story is that the Terminator had the technical knowledge to convert them to full auto.
When Sarah was talking on the phone to the police, that was Lance Henriksen handing over the pen. Take a look at his IMDB list
Lance was supposed to be the Terminator, for a very good reason; "infiltrator units" are supposed to blend-in. Henriksen could do that, but man-mountain Arnie? Pretty sure you'd figure out he was following you fairly quickly. Also, one of the major points of machines is that they don't need big muscles for strength, so Arnold's impressive physique is completely counter-productive to his character, despite his iconic look. The studio over-ruled James, so he wrote Lance that part as a consolation.
James even had Lance dress in biker gear and kick-in the door where Cameron was meeting with studio execs when he was trying to sell the concept.
Fun fact: the only thing that Ahnold bought in the gun store that’s not legal in Canada was the uzi. At the time the movie was made, it was technically possible to buy one in a gun store but it had a $200 tax stamp on it and it also had a 6-12 month background check (no more effective than NICS but spiteful I guess lol) before they could take possession of it.
Not only is it Bill Paxton, but next to him is the ubiquitous Brian Thompson.
On another note, sadly, yes in 1984 you could actually buy a fully automatic 9mm Uzi. I believe that changed a couple of years later, in 1986.
One sequel to go.
Also your question at 4:50 That was 1984. So yeah at the time you still could buy machineguns.
Two years later that ended.
Not over the counter like that. A gun store could only sell semi-auto versions. To buy full-auto required all the Title II paperwork and checks as it does now. All the 1986 law did was freeze the number legally in civilian hands.
@@TommygunNG Repeal '86!
Simone! Again, your facial expressions when watching Arnold take out his eye, and similar, make watching you so much fun. Like seeing the movie for the first time, even though I've seen it so many times!
prior to '86 automatic weapons were still publicly available, and reasonably priced. after '86 they implemented the second round of NFA 'national firearm act' rules which discontinued the ability to purchase new automatic weapons. these weapons can still be purchased but because nothing made after '86 can be bought new, outside of a dealer or law enforcement, these weapons have become scarce and have skyrocketed in price.
"Can you buy this level of weaponry in a gunstore in the US?"
Absolutely
Minus the later conversions by the Terminator to full-auto of course.
BTW, there's a little-spotted goof: The Uzi shown in the store has a short barrel, not the regulation 16-inch one. A goof by the props people.
You could buy automatic fire Uzi's until 1986 in the US. Apparently you still can in some states but have to go through tons of paperwork?
I like the fact that one is disgusted by the kissing and the other is "hey, it works!"
You can only buy an auto Uzi today if it was made pre-1986 and you're in a state that doesn't have a machine gun ban, which some do. You need to fill out a transfer form and pay a $200 tax stamp, in that case. And typically you're looking at a five-digit pricetag.
yes that is a typical gun store
To your comment about humans fearing that an AI could become a threat, I recommend you seek out the short story I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison, who wrote it in 1967 and received a Hugo Award in 1968. There's also a point-and-click video game.
There's also a connection between Harlan Ellison and The Terminator, as Ellison alleged that The Terminator drew from material from an episode of the original Outer Limits which Ellison had scripted, "Soldier" (1964). They settled out of court and a credit acknowledging Ellison's work was added. James Cameron objected to this acknowledgement and has since labeled Ellison's claim a "nuisance suit".
Cameron can suck an egg. He broke his own movie's logic the minute he tried to do it without Ellison (how does the T1000 time-travel without an organic envelope? If you don't need that, why wouldn't you just send back a nuclear weapon that would only require rudimentary tracking abilities to get its target within the blast radius? Why not a biological weapon? Etc).
Cameron's got a lot of good qualities, but humility ain't one of them.
@@michaelccozens Yeah, I agree with that description of Cameron. And I also agree with the T-1000 being the start of the sequelitis problem. Bc basically the 2nd movie is telling almost the same story as the first, only this time with a lot more budget. (One of the worst examples is Escape from LA after Escape from New York.). And they have to come up with MORE SPECIAL ideas, so the audience won't moan about it being the same story. The "liquid metal" is pretty much BS. Now, if the concept of nanomachines had been more publicly known back then, I could have seen that as an excuse for a shapeshifter, that could at least fool a time displacement machine to recognize the outer layer as organic tissue.
You can buy an Uzi, just a semiautomatic one. Presumably the terminator modified it for automatic fire, which would not be terribly difficult. The laser sight pistol is an interesting case. In 1984 the large laser tube required a large battery to power. The battery was in Arnold's jacket pocket and the power cable went up his sleeve to the gun. It's shot so you don't see this. In a few years lasers that operated at lower power were available for use as gun sights with self contained batteries. And now they are $5 cat toys. Did Jim Cameron invent this tech?
At 17.50 in the original story line the Terminator had a heart the size of a chicken to supply blood to its flesh but when he was shot at Tech Noir it destroyed the heart and from that moment on his flesh started to rot.
I'm betting that by now you've already moved onto "T2: Judgement Day", also directed by James Cameron. The majority of viewers consider this sequel to be better than the original. Hard to say. The original is so iconic, yet the sequel benefits a much larger budget and more mature special effects. Looking forward to your reaction! Good job on this one.
Wouldn't call it better. It succeeded by pandering to the lowest common denominator of viewers instead of being a smart, hard-edged film like the original.
"Can people really buy all that stuff in a gun store?" You can here in Texas. I'm sure it's the same in most states although maybe not modern day California.
Yes, can buy most of those guns, but the Uzi 9 millimeter is banned. It can't be manufactured bought, sold, imported or exported, but in 1984 it could be bought anywhere.
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Um, not it's not.
@@CruelestChris Domestically manufactured versions can still be bought (semi-auto, of course).
Little-noticed error: The weapon in the gun store had a short barrel, not the regulation 16-inch one. A goof on the part of the props people.
@@TommygunNG
Probably not a goof on their part, more likely that the director asked for that one to be used or didn't specify what it was going to be used for (the same gun with a wood stock attached is very briefly seen in the hideout scene in the future). I've spoken to movie armourers and often they say they advise about these things and are basically told to shut up and load the guns.
@@CruelestChris Someone's goof.
It WAS Bill Paxton. You’re the first one to notice. Awesome. I love all the terminators with Arnold. Only seen two with others. Not bad. Thanks guys
The answer to your question is yes, before 1986 ever weapon Arnold asked about was completely legal to buy. Even the fully automatic uzi. Actually, even today, every weapon Arnold received is still legal to but with the exception of the fully automatic uzi. Today you can only buy a semiautomatic uzi. Which means one round fired per every squeeze of the trigger. Fully automatic is when you squeeze the trigger multiple rounds will keep firing until you take your finger off the trigger.
"Can we watch all the movies of the 80's?" ------ Make sure you add the following to your watchlist as the 80's rocked!!!!!: Amadeus, Bull Durham, Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Big Chill, ET, Do The Right Thing, Blade Runner, Full Metal Jacket, The Breakfast Cub, Sixteen Candles, Ghostbusters, Dangerous Liaisons, Tootsie, The Untouchables, Broadcast News, Caddyshack, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Gandhi, Die Hard, The Princess Bride, Field of Dreams, Big, Hoosiers, Raising Arizona, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, This is Spinal Tap, Body Heat, Pee Wee's Big Adventure, The Karate Kid, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Back to The Future, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, Hannah and Her Sisters, When Harry Met Sally, Tender Mercies, Stand By Me, My Dinner With Andre, Chariots of Fire, Glory, Arthur, A Soldier's Story, Witness, A Fish Called Wanda, Driving Miss Daisy, Moonstruck, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, A Nightmare on Elm Street and The King of Comedy.
No predator like wtf
Best advice, and I know others will say this..... "Stop after Terminator 2".
The story ends perfectly, there........ and beyond that, the original story writers/director are no longer involved. So..... trust "us"... Stop with number 2.
I don’t agree. I actually like the 3rd one too.
@TheJoeGreene POSSIBLE SPOILERS: As far as i know there are two "schools" of time travel, one where you can change things and possibly even erase yourself, and one where no matter what you do the same things will happen only the way there changes depending on what you do. The first to movies implies Terminator universe is of the first type, at least Skynet and the main characters believe so, but the third reveals that actually the Terminator universe is of the second kind. Most people don't seem to like that. Myself I can go both ways, both thinking that Terminator 2 has the perfect ending and liking the dread of the 3rd that there seems to be no stopping the machines.
edited: for spelling and adding spoiler warning
@TheJoeGreene I wouldn't say retcon, they don't change what happened in the movie, it's only Saras conclusion at the end of the movie that is made wrong, and it could be without retconning anything, as far as she knew it was over, but it turned out she was wrong. Also I wouldn't want more than a line or two rather than to stop the movie for a timetravel presentation.
Miachael Biehn played Sgt. Kyle Reese in The Terminator and Terminator 2. He played Cpl. Dwayne Hicks in Aliens.
Lance Henrikson played officer Vukovich in The Terminator and Bishop in Aliens.
James Cameron wrote and directed both filmes. I don't know if he picked these two actors for Aliens or if it was a coincidence. The both gave stellar performances in Aliens and Biehn gave a great performance in this film. (IMO)
I love that Bill Paxton (RIP) has been killed by a xenomorph, a terminator and a predator. The big three. 🤣
Great movie, I would not go pass Terminator 2 because all the other Terminator movies suck. Only the first two movies are good, You should see other great Arnold movies like Conan The Barbarian, The Running Man, Total Recall, Twins, Kindergarten Cop, End of Days, The Sixth Day, Collateral Damage, Last Action Hero.
I agree completely. Only the first two Terminators are worth watching.
T1 and T2 are among the greatest ever, but even though they aren’t close to the first 2 entries (it was always a hard ask), T3, Salvation and Genisys are watchable.
Dark Fate however… I saw it in cinema, what a waste of money and a day off work that was! The only one in the franchise I haven’t given a second viewing.
Terminator is one of my favourite franchises, and Arnie is probably my favourite actor (certainly action hero), so imagine how bad it has to be for me to say I wish I could have gotten a refund, and to even have preferred being at work that day!
@@CoffeeMatt10 T3 is a bad movie Genisys is really bad movie and Dark fate is not just a really really bad movie it is complete woke crap.
Can't wait for part 2!!!!
There's a deleted scene where they show Sarah being taken out of the factory in an ambulance and you see that that factory is Cyberdyne Systems, the creator of Skynet.
Bill Paxton has a small part, but Michael Biehn played Reese. Both were in “Aliens” and also in “Tombstone”.
after T2 the only one really worth watching is the TV series
I actually really like Salvation, but I appreciate that a lot of people don't because Arnie isn't in it.
@@Xoferif for me its nothing to do with Arnie
Aside from the 80's music this was a pretty scary movie for back in the day. Fun Fact:
In 1982 Arnold took the opportunity to star as the antagonist in James Cameron's debut film, The Terminator. It was a super low budget film with only $6.4 million in funds so Arnold was paid only $75,000 for his role, Schwarzenegger speaks only 17 lines in the film, and fewer than 100 words. The movie made $78.48usd million world wide.
Terminator 2 is a great sequel and some consider even better than the original.
T2 hits most of the same plot points as T1 but does it with even more pizzazz. It's one of the best sequels ever made. Along with Aliens. I don't think James Cameron has that mojo anymore, it started to slip after True Lies, and I hated Avatar. I don't have any hope for the new Avatar sequels.
Arnold was also originally cast as Reese, but at some point they figured he would make a great Terminator.
@@JasonHauser125 and he was producer on the last Terminator, if you can believe that.
6:30 CDs were expensive novelties until around late 86-early 87. And on the early players, you had to insert screws to stabilize the laser whenever you moved it, because any jolt could knock it out of alignment. Portable CD players didn't become practical until the early 90s.
About thinking that Arnold looked cool even though he was the villain- you wouldn't be alone in this-
When the film was 1st released in 1984 audiences burst into cheers for Arnold during the police shootout scene. James Cameron couldn't believe it as he wrote the character of the Terminator as a cyborg version of Jason from Friday the 13th.
When Arnold Schwarzenegger was interviewed and asked for his take on this phenomenon (cheering for the villain) he replied, "I think everybody wishes that they could be a Terminator even just for one day and *get the job done* ."
I understand that the way upload schedules work probably means that you’ve already watched #2, but if you haven’t, then please ensure you watch the Director’s Cut (officially called the “Special Edition”). It’s got an extra 16 minutes and is superior to the already excellent Theatrical Cut.
I agree, except for the Director's Cut ending. I liked the theatrical ending better. Just my opinion :)
@@shure81 The Director's Cut has the same ending as the Theatrical cut. However, there's a *third* version (the Extended cut?) that has a different ending.
@@shure81 yepp,muchos better. greets from suomi-finland.
As far as buying guns in the states, we can't by guns that fire full automatic; not without special permits that would be difficult to get. Full automatic means that more than one bullet comes out per one squeeze of the trigger (aka, machine guns / assault rifles). That's the main difference between the civilian AR-15 vs the military M16 or M4 Carbine. The civilian AR-15 fires one round per squeeze of the trigger while the military rifles can fire multiple rounds per single trigger squeeze (it has to do with how the trigger mechanism is configured). AR stands for Armalite, NOT Assault Rifle; Armalite is the name of the company that developed that style of rifle. The Uzi 9mm is full automatic so it would be illegal, but the shotgun and .45 Longslide w/Laser Sighting are legal.
the permits are not that hard to get. as long as you have no criminal record, you fill out the forms and pay the fees. I know several people that have fully automatic weapons and suppressers. you can also own rocket launchers, cannons, miniguns, but they are harder to get. you have to check state laws and local ordinances
Mechanisms such as bump stocks were created to get around the semiautomatic restrictions. The stock has a spring mechanism to absorb the gun's recoil and when the spring then recoils it pushes the trigger against the operator's trigger finger causing another round to fire. All the operator needs to do is keep his finger in the pulled position.
I'm trying to look for the exact information but if I'm not mistaken I think it actually was legal in 1984 to sell fully automatic weapons to citizens. I believe you had to have a certain license to purchase one but we didn't see them get that far into the transaction in the movie. I don't think it was until 1986 that they banned the purchase and transfer of machine guns. I'm sure some would argue they needed an Uzi for those really pesky deer. :P
@@lawrencewestby9229 you could also use your thumb in a belt loop to accomplish the same thing. 😁
@@MysterClark in 1986, the Hughes Amendment closed the machine gun registry to new firearms. So you can buy a machine gun that was added to the registry prior to that date in 1986, but nothing new. You're looking at $10k, minimum, a special background check, a $200 tax stamp, and several months' wait.
Great reaction. The idea that computers might take over does go back a long way. The earliest film on that, that I remember seeing, is "Colossus: The Forbin Project", with Eric Braeden, from 1970, but science-fiction stories about it date from way earlier.
The Terminator rising from the fire is burned into my mind as one of the most iconic images from cinema.
You absolutely need to watch Terminator 2. It's one of the few sequels in cinematic history that is even better than the original. A heads up though: _don't watch the theatrical version!_ It leaves out a key aspect of one of the main character's character development. Watch the Special Edition or the Ultimate Cut.
It wasn't better. The Terminator is a perfectly recursive self-contained movie that needed no follow-up. T2 was a cash grab.
"Can people actually buy this level of weaponry?" In the free parts of the US, yes, more or less. Even the UZI, in a semi-automatic version! In California, today, no, not so much!
Answering machine, " ha ha fooled you... you're taking to a machine " as Arnuld peers over at the box!
I never notice how clearly you can see Arnold's two completely fine eyes during the "I'll be back" line.
Yeah in the 80’s we just mashed our faces together when we kissed. It was rad.
I remember it well!
Simone: "Man he (Terminator) looks terrifying"
Me: "Ahhh we haven't gotten to the nightmarish chrome combat chassis frame, with the glowing red eyes. That is relentlessly hunting you to the death.
Yeah no Biggie"
I told you in the second, "We got drunk and answered questions," vid about my first role in a movie. My second role, I started the movie with the line, "I don't know what happened. I guess I just really had to fart!" But, the important part is that, at one point, a muscular guy in a motorcycle jacket, sun glasses and leather pants, meant to resemble Arnold in this film, hijacked a pickup with a shot gun, saying, "Get out," before looking at the camera and saying in an Austrian accent, "I don't stop my truck for nothing but gas, grass und ass." He then then smiled real quick, went stoned faced and drove off. And, yes, it was the same director as the last one.
Side note. You noticed Bill Paxson in the movie. Bill is the only character to be killed by a Terminator, an Alien, and a Predator in the movie lexicon.
Ahh, fun facts do make my day.
I *think* Lance Henrikson also holds a similar honour.
Back when this was filmed many of those weapons from the shop were still street legal in the US. It wasn't until the 90's that some gun legislation took them off the street. Still black market weapons and person to person sales make many of those guns accessible to those who know where to look.
That's completely incorrect, fully automatic weapons were already restricted under the national firearms act, and the 1990 ban took nothing off the street since it included a grandfather clause for all existing weapons.
you owe it to yourself to watch Terminator 2, genuinely my favorite film of all time, but please, whatever you do with the rest of your life, don't watch any other Terminator movies after that.
T1 and T2 are a complete story, there is nothing left to tell.
T3 and beyond are soulless cash grabs that break their own in universe rules in order to exist, they feel like the people that made them have never watched the first two.
In the 1980's you could buy anything in the States. Uzis became huge after the movie Scarface was released. You can no longer purchase automatic/assault weapons unless you have a Class 3 license, which is difficult to get. You can only buy automatic weapons but caliber is not restricted. You can purchase the US militaries sniper rifle, which fires a .50 cal bullet.
I can't believe you immediately figured out the plot to T2 by the end of this film. Impressive!
"looking at you Boston dynamics" google, facebook, amazon aaand whatever crazy transhumanist hobby project Elon is working on.
Ps.
China has already developed SkyNet (security/surveillance sytem), yes, they named it that....
The US NSA also called its surveillance system Skynet, there's also a UK MOD communications satellite system called Skynet, and a couple of airlines and some TV companies with that name as well.
@@stevedowdy1 Thats hilarious.
Do you know how many was named post-Terminator?
Seems like an odd choice.
@@osuunaftmath As far as I can see from Wikipedia they were all started post-Terminator.
@@stevedowdy1 Wild.
Crossing my fingers for "Fellbeast Delivery Service" and "Eye of Sauron Broadcasting".
I can buy all of those guns 5 minutes from where I live. Not a fully auto Uzi, but a semi automatic version yes
You can buy all those kinds of weapons. The Uzi would be modified so that could only fire semi-automatic (one round fired per trigger pull), rather than full automatic...but those modifications are not difficult to change.
15:39 The glasses Arnold's putting on are called Gargoyles. When the movie first came out, they became very popular.
5:30 "you're dead, hunny" That part was so funny. That's not a friend, that's a coworker 🤣 I thought she was so funny n cool when I'd watch this as a kid
@CineBinge React I'm gonna blow your mind. Prior to the events of this movie, John Connor was the son of a nobody, and the truly original John Connor didn't know his father. By hooking up with Sarah, Kyle Reese created an inescapable time loop, since John can't exist without sending Kyle back to 1984, and so the cycle must continue.
I watched this recently and paused the screens showing some pseudo-ASM code on the Terminator-Cam.
It looks like the code tests the value of several named memory addresses using an "EQU" opcode (presumably testing for equality), but it never actually checks the result or does anything with it. Instead it just goes right to testing another location, and another, overwriting the result of the previous tests without ever checking it.
Of course there's the caveat that this is a fictional CPU, but by reasonable inference the code appears to do nothing but waste CPU time.
We are being told: "it will not stop..."
And only in the end, when it's crawling with it's legs and one arm gone do we understand the full truth of these words.