I spent days and days breeding 95 minimum IV (on all categories) Astegons and Kitsun, both with Hooligan, Ferrocious, Musclehead, Lucky, in order to get a maxed out Shadowbeak with all those IVs and skills. Turns out i was shooting myself in the foot, with the new knowledge brought in this video like at 3:58 or 3:00. I really wish i had known this sooner.
@@andym3278capture necromus then you can add legend and the 20% dark dmg lord of darkness buff instead of hooligan and lucky, mines level 46 and currently sat on 90% bonus atk tier 3 condensing and +30% w pal souls, a dmg stat of like 1600
The Devs would be total Bros if they put a Scope in the game that can "Scan" the Pals IVs. you can upgrade it like a glider/grappling hook etc, They can even make it a DBZ reference.@@RageGamingVideos
Thank you so much for this video. I been breed Ragnahawk all day for speed skills, both had 4 skills each and I was getting nothing. After swapping them to 2 skills each, I finally got a Ragnahawk with Nimble, Swift, Lucky, Runner. Still took around a dozen eggs to get there. 😁
I'm still wrapping my head around how massive this game is (stats, crafting, Pal management, exploring), how much you consider while playing... and it hasn't even been out for a year, or left Early Access yet! How many Pals will there wind up being? Three hundred... a thousand??
@@braylenmoss It all comes down to each player's perspective, if they're solo or with friends, how much free time they can spend on Palworld, etc. As a lone player with an easily-flooded brain, I see it as a lot, but not nearly as big as Monster Hunter World or Elden Ring. I'd love to know if we ever get to the big tree that's hinted as important. I could not fly to it because of an invisible wall.
There was a lot of online marketing via youtubers. Pokemon youtubers all talked about this game over a year ago, and many youtubers gave this game exposure.
Thanks for the information. I was certainly wrong to try and stack all the move speed passives on both parents when breeding for my flying mount! That's very counter intuitive to me but I won't have to repeat the mistake. I agree with your view that the IV breeding isn't worth it. I think they designed the passives to be visible and the IVs to be invisible so that people's focus is drawn to the passives, which can actually be reliably manipulated and offer greater impact. I've spent hours breeding in pokemon titles but I have no love for the tedium of IVs. I'm looking forward to working more with this information!
The child has a very high chance to gain one or more of the passives from the parent but the chance for all 4 is obviously lower the just getting one or two
This guide is EXACTLY what i was looking for. I was wondering why i couldn't get the right passives on my base farmers. Thank you SO much for this. Keep it up guys ❤
I got 2 (close to) perfect IV anubis parents, and am now trying to figure out how to get the passives necessary through cross breeding to get the offspring to breed an Uber Anubis. It took around 50 anubis breeds to get those parents through consistent monitoring of IV's for each offspring. Kept breeding the highest IV's at lvl 1 (112 attack/59 defense). I already got an offspring with musclehead on it and at lvl 28 that thing is a beast, having the same attack (with no upgrades) as an alpha Suzaku at 45. That's guy's gonna stay on my team until I manage to breed the other offensive traits into another Anubis. And ofc, the less talented offspring aren't wasted as they'll eventually be fed to Uber Anubis.
A note about grazing pals is that they will drop more items pal fusion leveling up their partner skill. Not only that, if you manage to get their partner skill to levels 5, their work suitability will increase by one level for all work suitability’s that they have.
@@SeedlingNL It doesn't matter for grazing pals (ones that drop items at the ranch). Work Speed buffs don't affect their production, only star rating. So they don't really need passives, but you could give them something like Diet Lover or Workaholic if you want.
4:00 OMG THANK YOU I thought I was going crazy wasting 2 dozen cakes trying to perfect my flyer (I finally did... And the 4th was -30% 😭). This at least explains why.
I like how this video released 2hrs after I got the 4 trait Orserk I've been trying to breed for hours and finding out I was doing it wrong lol. Great video!
I like that the IVs exist but I also appreciate they aren't a huge bonus. I can be ok with mid IVs but great traits, and shoot for IVs later if I really want to squeeze some more hours outta the game.
I'm glad iv are only worth 10% It's really dumb for a game that has hidden stats, that obviously the players will try to exploit. Pocket Morty had hidden iv stats that when at max level was game changing
I wish I was told this the other day. I bred over 120 cremis trying to get the 4 skills I wanted with both parents having 3/4 skills. At least condensing them afterward didn’t take too long. :)
Tyvm, after breeding 3 perfect trait pals I sorta got the idea of minimizing traits between parents but I had no idea it was so impactful. I got really bummed down because I got to know about IVs later and after I checked... all 3 of those pals have low IVs... Good to know that it wont be so impactful.
It is very impactful. I don't know why the guy says it doesn't but it certainly does. Palpedia website has an iv calculator and whenever you check atk for a lvl 50 maxed strong Pal, the difference can be massive. Level 50 Anubis for example has 592 attack with 1 iv. With 30 attack ivs it has 733 and that is without any attack increasing passive and also without upgrading it for souls.
Try catching beegard at night. They fall asleep and i think that makes them easier to catch. Either way, get a ton of spheres and be prepared to die lol
That was some important info, thx. I got shadowbeak with legend lucky ferocious and musclehead + 30% atk IV and 28% def IV but life one being only 18%, so I decided to continue breeding until I get better IV on hp but after ur vid I guess I will just settle 😅
You can get honey from Cinnamoths. I used the 4 honey I got from them on two cakes to cross-breed two Beegardes. I think I used Daedream+Mozzarina for breeding. You need the cows anyway for milk and Daedreams are easy to get.
Ok so a small work around is to breed out the extra traits, simple get your four traits on one parent and find one with either one similar trait OR none at all. Now it takes time but it will help to breed that ultimate worker/fighter/mount. I have an oserk with lord of lightning musclehead ferocious and hooligan, took a few hours but once i learned how to isolate traits it went so much faster same with my rayhound
To my understanding part of this information is inaccurate. Having the same 4 passives on both parents is no worse than having the 4 passives on one parent and nothing on the other or having a the 4 passives split across the 2 parents with no extra passives. This info comes from a dataminer who looked into the breeding code in depth. The "mutation rate" as you call it is fixed and not in any way dependent on the amount of passives the parents have.
@@Willow4526 The video references such data but doesn't like to it. Furthermore an extremely reliable source (the guy that complied the data on the breeding species calculation and on how IVs work) has pointed out that the 30% chance to inherit IVs is a misinterpreation of the data. It's not 30% split between the parents, it's 30% for each parent, leading to a 60-40 split instead of a 30-70. So yeah, I'm gonna take the conclusions of this video with a huge grain of salt until I see the data myself.
IV's are worth it 100%, when fully maxed out at 5 stars and all souls difference between 15% and 30% is like over 350 attack. That is worth more than a 20% trait on every stats im pretty sure (Atleast for attack its better to have perfect attack iv with just legend + musclehead than having both with ferocious and 15% roll)
Given the existence of the condenser I think best practice is going to be pretty straightforward. First get your parents lined up with the requisite skills, then breed the 117 pals for the condenser and just select the one that inherited all 4 passives that has the best stats. You might not get a perfect spread but there is no guarantee that when rolling your 70% mutation IV that you don't end up with something high. Given >100 eggs, and ~20-25 having the passives you are looking for, you should have at least one "Better than average"; the rest get the blender. Edit: the key is going to be not jumping ship and boosting the first one that rolls all the passives you are looking for. you might hit a monster pal at 70 you would have otherwise just blended.
This is the legit way to go 100% your going to make all those pals eventually anyway why not do that first n take the pick of the litter! Definitely the smart strats.
So in other words, condense and max out the pal you find and get your preferred stats on, rather than spend all those hours breeding to ~maybe~ get the perfect pal. I genuinely think that smart gameplay will outperform players with "perfect" IVs, considering how stats are still not fully promised even after preparation, and the chance that Pal Tamers will also fight each other on the side. Pokemon IV training is a tireless grind, but at least it's guaranteed if you know what you're doing.
What I gathered from this is IVs aren't worth worrying about in this game. I've bred 40+ Foxsparks and still don't have the 4 passives I want. I can't worry about IVs too lol.
Just gonna assume this process wasn't focused on a ton by the devs and we'll get breeding changes at some point moving forward to make this more possible without dedicating a month to it. Unless they give a statement on it as to why they made it so hard to get perfect ivs with traits. I was wanting to prep for PvP getting added as a way to have extra reasons to play though I guess I'll just be focusing on the traits
I feel like the chance of perfect IVs is leaving out the fact that a baby can theoretically have it's own perfect IVs that weren't carried down through the parents, it doesn't increase the chance by too much, but it would affect the likelyhood of the outcome somewhat.
Its nice to know but i dont think its worth going after a perfect one. The combination off the perfect passive and the perfect IV is sooo so so low chance that the time is just not worth it for 10%more power
@@hashbrown2972 hmm its not really a bonus, i am already annoyed with the limited box amount with my breeding attempts. Where do u keep all that crap until u have the perfect one?
I started with looking for IVs and then tried breeding for good mutations with 1 skill pals. Now I have Ferocious Legendary Musclehead Ice Emperor 33%HP Increase 30%ATK 30%DEF Frostalion. Remaining pals were condensed and sold. It took 3 days and hundreds eggs, but it's ridiculously strong and can solo help kill shadowbeak boss with dragon skills.
Palworld on Xbox is completely different to the PC version. You cant even look at a dungeon, let alone go in one, without the game crashing. Most of the map isn't rendered in, so you travel too far north and end up with more clip textures than map textures. Then when your flying mount needs to regain stamina, it will just fall down through the map and you're stuck. The Dune Shelter, the place where you can buy the heat and cold resistant T-shirts, doesn't work. The vendors are clipped underneath the floor, so you can't access them even when you clip through the floor and stand right next to them. Graphics are ridiculously ugly, like PS1/PS2 quality, when it does render the map. Its a shame to see so many awesome looking pals in UA-cam videos and then I look at my pals that look like they're either stuffed toys or made of playdough... And yet... I still can't stop playing??
To clarify you do not need EACH parent to have two total passive skills each, as long as the total # of passive skills from both parents = 4 you get the same odds of a child with all 4 passive skills. For example: 1 + 3, one passive skill parent + three passive skill parent 2 + 2, two passive skill parent + two passive skill parent 3 + 1, same as first one. 4 + 0, four passive skill parent + 0 passive skill parent You need to remember its TOTAL passive skill from each parent not WANTED therefore try to breed out the unwanted passive skills as early as possible.
I played 1500h of Pokemon Y, and i went batshit crazy about breeding perfect pokemons and even got Eelektross shiny 5 ivs, and went for close to 50hours trying to cacth Mewtwo in Omega Saphire with 5 ivs modest..... omg don't make me go back to this madness !!!!!!!!!
Hey, I don't know if what just happened to me was a coincidence or not. I've been trying all day to breed a warsect with a particular passive combination. I must have bred at least 150 which were all trash. I was running out of palbox space so I thought i'd try something, I took the breeding pair and infused them both up to two star warsects. The very next egg was the perfect combination I was after. I've not seen anyone mention anything about the star level of the parents increasing the chance of good passives being passed on. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Was it just pure coincidence or is there something to this?
i have 4 Anubis now with 4 perfect skills from 2 parent Anubis' with 4 perfect skills... lol... would've saved me a lot of time if I knew this earlier. the first 2 anubis with 4 perfect skills I had, have had a Digtoise as a parent with 4 perfect skills and a Mammorest with no skill... Said Digtoise parents were that Mammorest and a Sparkit that had 4 perfect skills... had to breed numerous Sparkits to get 1 Digtoise that had 4 perfect skills...
If you just bread random parents with 2 skill you still get 1/1457 chance to get a perfect pal sound a lot but of its something that's not wild you want to condense you'll need 117 anyways so you could get a full set of perfect passives fully condensed with 1 being purchased perfect and the 4 being close, but if you want it to be top 20% you'll probably end up breeding enough to get one close just from condensing and passives breeding.
400 hours is 16.6 days of breeding, game was released on Jan 19th. as of 2/6 that is only 18 days the game has been released to the general public. has dude been only sleeping 2 hours a night for the last 3 weeks just watching his pals FVCK?!
The funny thing is, none of the offensive pal passives matter. You're better off using gobfins and gobfin ignis with vanguard and stronghold strategist with 1 beefed up mount that makes you deal elemental damage and has that element's passive buff to act as a body shield. Can your Pals kill Frostallion before I empty 3 clips of my AR into its pretty white skull?
I'm seeing redditors posting that after testing they have found this 2 + 2 method inferior to having two parents with all 4 passives. I want to believe this video, because I'm biased and like this channel, but even from what I've seen trying both methods, it's somewhere between inconclusive and 4 skills is the obvious choice. At no point did I feel that 2+2 parent combos were giving me more babies with all 4 passives. Please elaborate on, confirm, correct, or otherwise explain these contradictions.
I hated IVs in Pokemon and i hate them in Palworld. Genuinely one of the worst mechanics they could have copied. Palworld should add special souls obtainable in dungeons that you can use to upgrade a Pal's base IVs. They should also add a way to transfer traits like Legend or Flame Emperor between pals. Like a condenser but it consumes pals to gift their traits to other pals. That way my early game bros won't be completely useless endgame.
10% is much too low for the difference of bad to perfect iv. I’ve played over 200 hours with breeding only and the difference of my best jormuntide ignis to my worst one (same passives and no investment in souls) is over 500 atk at max level. That’s a third of the low attack jormuntide ignis..
So about a 1/200 chance? Not awful odds. While yes, you won’t necessarily need perfect IV’s, but they will come in handy when PVP drops as getting 4 passives will be the “average” bar and that can be the difference right there.
The creators of palworld literally looked at Pokemon IV breeding, walked up, put their hand on their chin and nodded while saying: "Hm, your right, this is terrible, make it at least 10 times harder and 5 times more pointless!". Then walked out of the room.
When i heared about the IV'S IN this game after spending countless hours breeding and giving pal soul to my 5 fav pal's i was done with the IV's and i dont want to go through those breeding process again even if the pvp is good im just gonna stick to my main team and just have fun. its just so time consuming....
The only ones worth trying to get ivs on are your attackers. All your farmy Bois just need the traits you want. That said, if you have 5 breeding stables going at a time, you can breed 60 guys in an hour doing nothing. In theory you'd hit your perfect guy in 3 or 4 hours, assuming you had all the good iv guys going in to it.
i play a few gotcha games, so a 0.5% is not the worst i have worked with. Just requires the same method of daily grinding until you get the reward. only difference is the gotcha games are mobile and can be played for short 15 to 30min sessions for grinding unlike this that would be hours long sessions. shooting myself in the foot sounds more rewarding.
Sounds like perfect iv is a waste, the mechanics for a few things seem off. But early access. I hope they at least give us an npc to tell us these numbers while hunting instead of 3rd party apps. Might be worth doing a rework to passives and iv. It would be cool to see elements boost or raise mutations a reason to mix pals outside the combos being unique.
In my experience it seems like each pareny has a 33% chance to pass down its own ivs per stat and the chance for each statvto mutate is only 33%. I have two perfect iv lfimunk that make a perfect lifmunk iv 2/3 times on an average of over 400eggs.
For beegarde you can use a foxsparx huggy fire if youve levled it up or alpha'd trick is to get them at night while there asleep light em up then catch em hard not to acidentally kill but this is how i got the lvl 38 mammoforest at level like lvl 18 or 20
So basically for a casual player, just breed for the 4 passive skills you want then enhance stats at a statue of power and you'd save way more time and still be happy with more gameplay to accomplish in your time playing the game?
I think just breeding for the passive skills and using the statue of power still seems more worth it to me. But I was already doing that before I just heard there are IV's. But I'm still not seeing any video that explains or proves there are IV's.
I hope that they don't make the IV breeding insanely annoying, or give us an item that maxes out its IV. I do not want EV as a system, because that is ridiculous to farm later on, but I can see it being okay, if worked on enough.
Considering it takes over 120 pals to get a 4 star pal I think it’s good odds cause once I get that perfect iv pal I’ll have about the perfect amount to max condense it
Compare perfect IV to bottom of the barrel IV. Reality doesn't line up with your conclusions here at alll.... it's a massive difference. I wish what you said was true
Right now im just wanting a Ore Pit, Sulfur Pit, Coal pit ect... Let us find schematics or something...unless there pals that drop ore in the ranch? lol?
This is all fine and well, but this game is sooo super easy that going to all this effort for a small increase in stats just seems like too much work. Still, thanks for figuring it out for those who want to play the min/max game.
Suggesting to breed a Beegarde to make honey to make cake...but you need honey to make a cake to breed for a Beegarde! If anybody sees this you can also get Honey dropped from killing the Beegarde. :)
Until there's some sort of endgame content that requires really strong pals, I'm not going to worry about IVs. I do think it's cool that the community is getting into it, though.
All eggs start with level 1 pals, so catching in the wild would be better anyway. The level of the pal would be better over stats, which will always be higher in the wild, as long as they do not have negative ones.
As a Pokemon breeder who spent 90% of my 2 decades of Pokemon play time riding a bike back and forth for thousands of hours, I looked at the Alpha Pals and straight up saw that there's very little point in breeding in Palworld.
4:48 that is actually incorrect. The attack shown in the game is not whichever the melee or ranged attack is higher. The attack shown is always the ranged attack.
Yeah, my guess is that the game currently do not use melee attack value. They may do the melee/range split down the road, but the move pool is too shallow to do that now.
really hard to get that good random trait when breeding worst trait just to get a good epic pal like orserk and grizzbolt to shadow beak with just 2 traits and the second one is either artisan and serious and the first will be downtrodden or hooligan
What would happen if you where to release an aqua pal and recapture it would you get pal fluid again fron re-capturing the pal i am having this thought at work
Ive breeding for 2 weeks now, splitting the 4 passives I want between mom and dad. Bred 120 of each every time. I never once had offspring with all 4 passives. 3 at best.. I started upgrading the 3 passive ones and gave up breeding the perfect pal
You just had bad luck. though I get it. Out of about 100 digtoise I had about 6 of them with all 4 passives I wanted, using two with different pairs of passives
I thought there might be some type of iv stat. I noticed my pets would have different stats even if they were the same level, and didn’t have any traits to boost that stat
I definitely did this with my Ragnahawk a few days ago and learned the hard way 4 passives with 3 passives doesnt help but after like 100 eggs i got my desired 4 passives(swift, legend, musclehead, burlybody) and according to the palpedia calculator40/29/29% out of 50/30/30 which is good enough for me
Should you be grinding for perfect IVs? No. But should you be mindful of IVs? YES. As you farm with 2 passive parents you'll get scores of clones of their parents. Use the ability glasses to see if their IVs are higher than their parent's. If you can make a breeding pair with higher collectivw IVs, you'll trend the IVs of your pals down the line higher than if you ignored the system entirely.
3 perfect IVs is 1:1,000,000. Generally, you need your pals to have max attack and the rest won't matter as most fights end before the first pal perishes. Getting 80%+ attack and 50%+ def/hp is only a 1:20 chance off a random pull, for example. Just be mindful of picking your best iv pals as parents and reap that minor TDO gain.
"Heres how you get cake, first breed a Beeguard which requires a Tanzee, a Melpaca, and one Cake."
So? I bred my beegarde because I was too low level to catch it. Just get it to do the suicide bomb on something and it's easy
Buy your honey, honey
You can easily kill 1 and get honey for your first cake....
@@shoobzy3431 It also drops honey if it explodes, so all in all, not a complete loss
Cinnamoth also gives honey when you catch it
I spent days and days breeding 95 minimum IV (on all categories) Astegons and Kitsun, both with Hooligan, Ferrocious, Musclehead, Lucky, in order to get a maxed out Shadowbeak with all those IVs and skills. Turns out i was shooting myself in the foot, with the new knowledge brought in this video like at 3:58 or 3:00.
I really wish i had known this sooner.
Well I'm glad you know now at least!
@@RageGamingVideos yeah, you're right. Now with this new knowledge, i will breed a 99 overall IV "I am speed" Jetragon.
@@andym3278capture necromus then you can add legend and the 20% dark dmg lord of darkness buff instead of hooligan and lucky, mines level 46 and currently sat on 90% bonus atk tier 3 condensing and +30% w pal souls, a dmg stat of like 1600
The Devs would be total Bros if they put a Scope in the game that can "Scan" the Pals IVs. you can upgrade it like a glider/grappling hook etc, They can even make it a DBZ reference.@@RageGamingVideos
@@Rico62787 If the devs don't do that hopefully a mod in the future mod will
Wow 400 hours! That's literally 23 hours a day since the game came out!
The second Cotton said IV's i had a PTSD melt down
Thank you so much for this video. I been breed Ragnahawk all day for speed skills, both had 4 skills each and I was getting nothing. After swapping them to 2 skills each, I finally got a Ragnahawk with Nimble, Swift, Lucky, Runner. Still took around a dozen eggs to get there. 😁
I'm still wrapping my head around how massive this game is (stats, crafting, Pal management, exploring), how much you consider while playing... and it hasn't even been out for a year, or left Early Access yet! How many Pals will there wind up being? Three hundred... a thousand??
There really isn’t that much to do rn but guess cause it’s a beta it is somewhat a lot but it’s really not.
@@braylenmoss It all comes down to each player's perspective, if they're solo or with friends, how much free time they can spend on Palworld, etc.
As a lone player with an easily-flooded brain, I see it as a lot, but not nearly as big as Monster Hunter World or Elden Ring.
I'd love to know if we ever get to the big tree that's hinted as important. I could not fly to it because of an invisible wall.
You havnt played bg3
There was a lot of online marketing via youtubers. Pokemon youtubers all talked about this game over a year ago, and many youtubers gave this game exposure.
@@356z only weirdos play that game
Loved the chart you showed just before one minute... you know, the one you don't have a link to or any way to find.
Thanks for the information. I was certainly wrong to try and stack all the move speed passives on both parents when breeding for my flying mount! That's very counter intuitive to me but I won't have to repeat the mistake. I agree with your view that the IV breeding isn't worth it. I think they designed the passives to be visible and the IVs to be invisible so that people's focus is drawn to the passives, which can actually be reliably manipulated and offer greater impact. I've spent hours breeding in pokemon titles but I have no love for the tedium of IVs. I'm looking forward to working more with this information!
but what is if you use one parent with no skills and one parent with 4?
i was wondering the same cuz its pretty easy to buy and stack pals with no passives at all from the black marketeer :P
The child has a very high chance to gain one or more of the passives from the parent but the chance for all 4 is obviously lower the just getting one or two
This guide is EXACTLY what i was looking for. I was wondering why i couldn't get the right passives on my base farmers. Thank you SO much for this. Keep it up guys ❤
I got 2 (close to) perfect IV anubis parents, and am now trying to figure out how to get the passives necessary through cross breeding to get the offspring to breed an Uber Anubis. It took around 50 anubis breeds to get those parents through consistent monitoring of IV's for each offspring. Kept breeding the highest IV's at lvl 1 (112 attack/59 defense). I already got an offspring with musclehead on it and at lvl 28 that thing is a beast, having the same attack (with no upgrades) as an alpha Suzaku at 45. That's guy's gonna stay on my team until I manage to breed the other offensive traits into another Anubis. And ofc, the less talented offspring aren't wasted as they'll eventually be fed to Uber Anubis.
Gg on getting such a good Anubis
So if you want an attack boosted nimble, runner, swift pal you need 1 with aggressive+speed skill and 1 parent with 2 speed skills 🤔
get the legend skill, its both speed and attack bonuses, hell it even brings defense
For attack power Musclehead, Ferocious, Legend, Lucky and the elemental passives from legendaries (i.e. Flame Emperor) are all better than Aggressive.
A note about grazing pals is that they will drop more items pal fusion leveling up their partner skill. Not only that, if you manage to get their partner skill to levels 5, their work suitability will increase by one level for all work suitability’s that they have.
Just make sure to first get them their passives where needed, as partner skill levels do not seem to carry over to children.
@@SeedlingNL It doesn't matter for grazing pals (ones that drop items at the ranch). Work Speed buffs don't affect their production, only star rating. So they don't really need passives, but you could give them something like Diet Lover or Workaholic if you want.
4:00 OMG THANK YOU I thought I was going crazy wasting 2 dozen cakes trying to perfect my flyer (I finally did... And the 4th was -30% 😭). This at least explains why.
I like how this video released 2hrs after I got the 4 trait Orserk I've been trying to breed for hours and finding out I was doing it wrong lol. Great video!
I like that the IVs exist but I also appreciate they aren't a huge bonus. I can be ok with mid IVs but great traits, and shoot for IVs later if I really want to squeeze some more hours outta the game.
I'm glad iv are only worth 10%
It's really dumb for a game that has hidden stats, that obviously the players will try to exploit.
Pocket Morty had hidden iv stats that when at max level was game changing
I wish I was told this the other day. I bred over 120 cremis trying to get the 4 skills I wanted with both parents having 3/4 skills. At least condensing them afterward didn’t take too long. :)
Tyvm, after breeding 3 perfect trait pals I sorta got the idea of minimizing traits between parents but I had no idea it was so impactful. I got really bummed down because I got to know about IVs later and after I checked... all 3 of those pals have low IVs... Good to know that it wont be so impactful.
It is very impactful. I don't know why the guy says it doesn't but it certainly does. Palpedia website has an iv calculator and whenever you check atk for a lvl 50 maxed strong Pal, the difference can be massive. Level 50 Anubis for example has 592 attack with 1 iv. With 30 attack ivs it has 733 and that is without any attack increasing passive and also without upgrading it for souls.
Knowing how the passives worked would've helped massively when I was breeding my pals XD. I thought the more passives the higher the chances
btw theres a underground modding network working hard to expand breeding to player interaction and to add zoe as a pal
Try catching beegard at night. They fall asleep and i think that makes them easier to catch. Either way, get a ton of spheres and be prepared to die lol
Cool so breed for passive skills over ivs. Good to know haha
That was some important info, thx. I got shadowbeak with legend lucky ferocious and musclehead + 30% atk IV and 28% def IV but life one being only 18%, so I decided to continue breeding until I get better IV on hp but after ur vid I guess I will just settle 😅
how do you breed beegaurd if you dont have cakes?
You can get honey from Cinnamoths. I used the 4 honey I got from them on two cakes to cross-breed two Beegardes. I think I used Daedream+Mozzarina for breeding.
You need the cows anyway for milk and Daedreams are easy to get.
So glad you made this video. I’m lvl 42 but love your monster hunter content. Always top tier.
What about Lucky? doesn't it guarentee 1 IV maxed?
I have a few lucky pals and well I can firmly say no. I don't have any pals with 100 IV of any stat some are close in the 90s, but thats about it.
Ok so a small work around is to breed out the extra traits, simple get your four traits on one parent and find one with either one similar trait OR none at all. Now it takes time but it will help to breed that ultimate worker/fighter/mount. I have an oserk with lord of lightning musclehead ferocious and hooligan, took a few hours but once i learned how to isolate traits it went so much faster same with my rayhound
I'll die on the hill that Coromon has the best stat & shiny system. If you know, you know, otherwise you should check it out.
To my understanding part of this information is inaccurate. Having the same 4 passives on both parents is no worse than having the 4 passives on one parent and nothing on the other or having a the 4 passives split across the 2 parents with no extra passives. This info comes from a dataminer who looked into the breeding code in depth. The "mutation rate" as you call it is fixed and not in any way dependent on the amount of passives the parents have.
Ppl have done the actual breeding tests & have data showing there's a far greater chance of passives passing down when parents have 2 passives each.
@@Willow4526 The video references such data but doesn't like to it.
Furthermore an extremely reliable source (the guy that complied the data on the breeding species calculation and on how IVs work) has pointed out that the 30% chance to inherit IVs is a misinterpreation of the data. It's not 30% split between the parents, it's 30% for each parent, leading to a 60-40 split instead of a 30-70.
So yeah, I'm gonna take the conclusions of this video with a huge grain of salt until I see the data myself.
@@ctom42 look up Austin John gaming, he's literally done the breeding & has data showing the results.
IV's are worth it 100%, when fully maxed out at 5 stars and all souls difference between 15% and 30% is like over 350 attack. That is worth more than a 20% trait on every stats im pretty sure (Atleast for attack its better to have perfect attack iv with just legend + musclehead than having both with ferocious and 15% roll)
Given the existence of the condenser I think best practice is going to be pretty straightforward. First get your parents lined up with the requisite skills, then breed the 117 pals for the condenser and just select the one that inherited all 4 passives that has the best stats. You might not get a perfect spread but there is no guarantee that when rolling your 70% mutation IV that you don't end up with something high. Given >100 eggs, and ~20-25 having the passives you are looking for, you should have at least one "Better than average"; the rest get the blender.
Edit: the key is going to be not jumping ship and boosting the first one that rolls all the passives you are looking for. you might hit a monster pal at 70 you would have otherwise just blended.
This is the legit way to go 100% your going to make all those pals eventually anyway why not do that first n take the pick of the litter!
Definitely the smart strats.
So in other words, condense and max out the pal you find and get your preferred stats on, rather than spend all those hours breeding to ~maybe~ get the perfect pal.
I genuinely think that smart gameplay will outperform players with "perfect" IVs, considering how stats are still not fully promised even after preparation, and the chance that Pal Tamers will also fight each other on the side. Pokemon IV training is a tireless grind, but at least it's guaranteed if you know what you're doing.
What I gathered from this is IVs aren't worth worrying about in this game.
I've bred 40+ Foxsparks and still don't have the 4 passives I want. I can't worry about IVs too lol.
Just gonna assume this process wasn't focused on a ton by the devs and we'll get breeding changes at some point moving forward to make this more possible without dedicating a month to it. Unless they give a statement on it as to why they made it so hard to get perfect ivs with traits. I was wanting to prep for PvP getting added as a way to have extra reasons to play though I guess I'll just be focusing on the traits
What if I have a pal with all of the skills I want on the child but the other parent has 0 skills?
I feel like the chance of perfect IVs is leaving out the fact that a baby can theoretically have it's own perfect IVs that weren't carried down through the parents, it doesn't increase the chance by too much, but it would affect the likelyhood of the outcome somewhat.
Its nice to know but i dont think its worth going after a perfect one. The combination off the perfect passive and the perfect IV is sooo so so low chance that the time is just not worth it for 10%more power
The upside is you get plenty extra pals to condense into a perfect pal
@@hashbrown2972 hmm its not really a bonus, i am already annoyed with the limited box amount with my breeding attempts. Where do u keep all that crap until u have the perfect one?
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I started with looking for IVs and then tried breeding for good mutations with 1 skill pals. Now I have Ferocious Legendary Musclehead Ice Emperor 33%HP Increase 30%ATK 30%DEF Frostalion. Remaining pals were condensed and sold. It took 3 days and hundreds eggs, but it's ridiculously strong and can solo help kill shadowbeak boss with dragon skills.
Palworld on Xbox is completely different to the PC version. You cant even look at a dungeon, let alone go in one, without the game crashing. Most of the map isn't rendered in, so you travel too far north and end up with more clip textures than map textures. Then when your flying mount needs to regain stamina, it will just fall down through the map and you're stuck. The Dune Shelter, the place where you can buy the heat and cold resistant T-shirts, doesn't work. The vendors are clipped underneath the floor, so you can't access them even when you clip through the floor and stand right next to them. Graphics are ridiculously ugly, like PS1/PS2 quality, when it does render the map. Its a shame to see so many awesome looking pals in UA-cam videos and then I look at my pals that look like they're either stuffed toys or made of playdough... And yet... I still can't stop playing??
To clarify you do not need EACH parent to have two total passive skills each, as long as the total # of passive skills from both parents = 4 you get the same odds of a child with all 4 passive skills.
For example:
1 + 3, one passive skill parent + three passive skill parent
2 + 2, two passive skill parent + two passive skill parent
3 + 1, same as first one.
4 + 0, four passive skill parent + 0 passive skill parent
You need to remember its TOTAL passive skill from each parent not WANTED therefore try to breed out the unwanted passive skills as early as possible.
I played 1500h of Pokemon Y, and i went batshit crazy about breeding perfect pokemons and even got Eelektross shiny 5 ivs, and went for close to 50hours trying to cacth Mewtwo in Omega Saphire with 5 ivs modest..... omg don't make me go back to this madness !!!!!!!!!
Hey, I don't know if what just happened to me was a coincidence or not.
I've been trying all day to breed a warsect with a particular passive combination. I must have bred at least 150 which were all trash. I was running out of palbox space so I thought i'd try something, I took the breeding pair and infused them both up to two star warsects. The very next egg was the perfect combination I was after. I've not seen anyone mention anything about the star level of the parents increasing the chance of good passives being passed on.
Has anyone else had a similar experience? Was it just pure coincidence or is there something to this?
i have 4 Anubis now with 4 perfect skills from 2 parent Anubis' with 4 perfect skills... lol...
would've saved me a lot of time if I knew this earlier. the first 2 anubis with 4 perfect skills I had, have had a Digtoise as a parent with 4 perfect skills and a Mammorest with no skill... Said Digtoise parents were that Mammorest and a Sparkit that had 4 perfect skills... had to breed numerous Sparkits to get 1 Digtoise that had 4 perfect skills...
If you just bread random parents with 2 skill you still get 1/1457 chance to get a perfect pal sound a lot but of its something that's not wild you want to condense you'll need 117 anyways so you could get a full set of perfect passives fully condensed with 1 being purchased perfect and the 4 being close, but if you want it to be top 20% you'll probably end up breeding enough to get one close just from condensing and passives breeding.
I just hope they add the ability to hatch Alpha's.. just a nice 1-5% chance to become an alpha size.. that excitement and fun would be dope!
I think that would be fine if it just affected size. Otherwise for optimization reasons, I would find it annoying.
400 hours is 16.6 days of breeding, game was released on Jan 19th. as of 2/6 that is only 18 days the game has been released to the general public. has dude been only sleeping 2 hours a night for the last 3 weeks just watching his pals FVCK?!
The funny thing is, none of the offensive pal passives matter. You're better off using gobfins and gobfin ignis with vanguard and stronghold strategist with 1 beefed up mount that makes you deal elemental damage and has that element's passive buff to act as a body shield. Can your Pals kill Frostallion before I empty 3 clips of my AR into its pretty white skull?
I'm seeing redditors posting that after testing they have found this 2 + 2 method inferior to having two parents with all 4 passives. I want to believe this video, because I'm biased and like this channel, but even from what I've seen trying both methods, it's somewhere between inconclusive and 4 skills is the obvious choice. At no point did I feel that 2+2 parent combos were giving me more babies with all 4 passives. Please elaborate on, confirm, correct, or otherwise explain these contradictions.
I hated IVs in Pokemon and i hate them in Palworld. Genuinely one of the worst mechanics they could have copied.
Palworld should add special souls obtainable in dungeons that you can use to upgrade a Pal's base IVs.
They should also add a way to transfer traits like Legend or Flame Emperor between pals. Like a condenser but it consumes pals to gift their traits to other pals.
That way my early game bros won't be completely useless endgame.
10% is much too low for the difference of bad to perfect iv. I’ve played over 200 hours with breeding only and the difference of my best jormuntide ignis to my worst one (same passives and no investment in souls) is over 500 atk at max level. That’s a third of the low attack jormuntide ignis..
So about a 1/200 chance? Not awful odds. While yes, you won’t necessarily need perfect IV’s, but they will come in handy when PVP drops as getting 4 passives will be the “average” bar and that can be the difference right there.
The creators of palworld literally looked at Pokemon IV breeding, walked up, put their hand on their chin and nodded while saying: "Hm, your right, this is terrible, make it at least 10 times harder and 5 times more pointless!". Then walked out of the room.
When i heared about the IV'S IN this game after spending countless hours breeding and giving pal soul to my 5 fav pal's i was done with the IV's and i dont want to go through those breeding process again even if the pvp is good im just gonna stick to my main team and just have fun. its just so time consuming....
The only ones worth trying to get ivs on are your attackers. All your farmy Bois just need the traits you want. That said, if you have 5 breeding stables going at a time, you can breed 60 guys in an hour doing nothing. In theory you'd hit your perfect guy in 3 or 4 hours, assuming you had all the good iv guys going in to it.
i play a few gotcha games, so a 0.5% is not the worst i have worked with. Just requires the same method of daily grinding until you get the reward. only difference is the gotcha games are mobile and can be played for short 15 to 30min sessions for grinding unlike this that would be hours long sessions. shooting myself in the foot sounds more rewarding.
Sounds like perfect iv is a waste, the mechanics for a few things seem off. But early access. I hope they at least give us an npc to tell us these numbers while hunting instead of 3rd party apps. Might be worth doing a rework to passives and iv. It would be cool to see elements boost or raise mutations a reason to mix pals outside the combos being unique.
In my experience it seems like each pareny has a 33% chance to pass down its own ivs per stat and the chance for each statvto mutate is only 33%. I have two perfect iv lfimunk that make a perfect lifmunk iv 2/3 times on an average of over 400eggs.
"Even with the best possible parents, the highest chance for the perfect Pal is only around 1/189!"
Pokémon players: "I see this as an absolute win!"
For beegarde you can use a foxsparx huggy fire if youve levled it up or alpha'd trick is to get them at night while there asleep light em up then catch em hard not to acidentally kill but this is how i got the lvl 38 mammoforest at level like lvl 18 or 20
So basically for a casual player, just breed for the 4 passive skills you want then enhance stats at a statue of power and you'd save way more time and still be happy with more gameplay to accomplish in your time playing the game?
I think just breeding for the passive skills and using the statue of power still seems more worth it to me. But I was already doing that before I just heard there are IV's. But I'm still not seeing any video that explains or proves there are IV's.
I hope that they don't make the IV breeding insanely annoying, or give us an item that maxes out its IV. I do not want EV as a system, because that is ridiculous to farm later on, but I can see it being okay, if worked on enough.
Considering it takes over 120 pals to get a 4 star pal I think it’s good odds cause once I get that perfect iv pal I’ll have about the perfect amount to max condense it
Compare perfect IV to bottom of the barrel IV. Reality doesn't line up with your conclusions here at alll.... it's a massive difference. I wish what you said was true
Right now im just wanting a Ore Pit, Sulfur Pit, Coal pit ect... Let us find schematics or something...unless there pals that drop ore in the ranch? lol?
This is all fine and well, but this game is sooo super easy that going to all this effort for a small increase in stats just seems like too much work.
Still, thanks for figuring it out for those who want to play the min/max game.
Suggesting to breed a Beegarde to make honey to make cake...but you need honey to make a cake to breed for a Beegarde!
If anybody sees this you can also get Honey dropped from killing the Beegarde. :)
do not use an IV calculator, get vortex or cursedfuorge, install the mod Pal IVs. works everywhere, shows you the IV's right next to the stats, OP
Until there's some sort of endgame content that requires really strong pals, I'm not going to worry about IVs. I do think it's cool that the community is getting into it, though.
I just want them to fix it so legendary alpha pals don't randomly have 4x the health of non-alpha ones... makes breeding them kind of pointless.
All eggs start with level 1 pals, so catching in the wild would be better anyway. The level of the pal would be better over stats, which will always be higher in the wild, as long as they do not have negative ones.
When is there going to stop being a cake tutorial in every single breeding tutorial? If you don't know how to make cake you ain't ready for IVs
Sounds like you'll have a good number of left over pals to do merging once you have your perfect pal. Maybe it's all intentional then.
Jup. After breeding over 300 pals, IVs are just not worth it. Be happy with average IV and 4 passiv traits. 😅
As a Pokemon breeder who spent 90% of my 2 decades of Pokemon play time riding a bike back and forth for thousands of hours, I looked at the Alpha Pals and straight up saw that there's very little point in breeding in Palworld.
4:48 that is actually incorrect. The attack shown in the game is not whichever the melee or ranged attack is higher. The attack shown is always the ranged attack.
Yeah, my guess is that the game currently do not use melee attack value. They may do the melee/range split down the road, but the move pool is too shallow to do that now.
really hard to get that good random trait when breeding worst trait just to get a good epic pal like orserk and grizzbolt to shadow beak with just 2 traits and the second one is either artisan and serious and the first will be downtrodden or hooligan
0,53% chance. Me, who caught a Black marketeer with a 0,22% chance: So... it's actually guaranteed
What would happen if you where to release an aqua pal and recapture it would you get pal fluid again fron re-capturing the pal i am having this thought at work
Ive breeding for 2 weeks now, splitting the 4 passives I want between mom and dad.
Bred 120 of each every time.
I never once had offspring with all 4 passives. 3 at best..
I started upgrading the 3 passive ones and gave up breeding the perfect pal
You just had bad luck. though I get it. Out of about 100 digtoise I had about 6 of them with all 4 passives I wanted, using two with different pairs of passives
So basically ignore IVs and breed for your passives, and if you really want to min max, do 4 passives + hp
I thought there might be some type of iv stat. I noticed my pets would have different stats even if they were the same level, and didn’t have any traits to boost that stat
oof, that breeding is such a stinker. >< IF only they had the ark thing where you get mutated colors too ;)
I definitely did this with my Ragnahawk a few days ago and learned the hard way 4 passives with 3 passives doesnt help but after like 100 eggs i got my desired 4 passives(swift, legend, musclehead, burlybody) and according to the palpedia calculator40/29/29% out of 50/30/30 which is good enough for me
Sounds like ARK's stat distribution, but we just cant see it. Awesome Spyglass Mod when?
I wish they will show the IV score in the interface. There is no reason i should be using a 3rd party site to get that information.
"Here's how to breed."
"step one breed a Beegarde"
Lolol what advice
Yea, I was wondering the same. I guess he intends for you to kill them for drops, I can't remember if they drop honey on suicide.
When they start the self destruct skill you can throw a ball and that stops the skill and puts it on cool down
This sucks I was happy with the somewhat simple game that was super fun now this is making it so I now have to start thinking while playing
I don't care about the stats & skills too much. Personally a guide to breeding only Pals would be good.
Im here becUse im level 43 and dont know what IVs are and i just saw a reddit post talking about them
Austin john gaming did a good amount of the testing.
1/189 for a literal perfect pal is not bad odds when compared to the shit people grind for in other games.
Should you be grinding for perfect IVs? No. But should you be mindful of IVs? YES. As you farm with 2 passive parents you'll get scores of clones of their parents. Use the ability glasses to see if their IVs are higher than their parent's. If you can make a breeding pair with higher collectivw IVs, you'll trend the IVs of your pals down the line higher than if you ignored the system entirely.
3 perfect IVs is 1:1,000,000. Generally, you need your pals to have max attack and the rest won't matter as most fights end before the first pal perishes. Getting 80%+ attack and 50%+ def/hp is only a 1:20 chance off a random pull, for example. Just be mindful of picking your best iv pals as parents and reap that minor TDO gain.
So what I'm hearing is there's a chance of me breeding that perfect Shadowbeak then? Bet...
I feel like you guys talking about Ark Survival Evolved breeding would be just as many numbers as this Palworld breeding guide..
In regards to iv. It is possible for a pal to have a 0. I have a lvl 1 bellanoir with a 0 attack IV
it seems trying to get IV is a fools errand and its far easier to plan andcheck for a 30% passive trait
0.53%? What I’m hearing is I got a 50/50 chance, i either get it or I don’t!
So just breed for passives and hope you get good IV luck along the way.