This is what I love about the Audi's I've owned. You're never looking at something in the interior and wondering why it was designed that way? Everything is cohesive - if boring to some - but ages very well.
the thing is... i hate the stuck on ipad look too. but i drove another car that had the screen lower like this and my damn arm was covering half the screen when i glance over meanwhile the "tablet" in my fiesta is much quicker to look at for navigation and such. maybe integrating the screen higher up would work? are there any examples of that? anytime i imagine the screen being more integrated it would make the dashbord look massive and weird.
I’ve got the 2019 model. I drive 20k miles a year, this is the perfect car. It is so hard to be mad in this car when you are in traffic, getting a massage and the seats heated or cooled. If you are going to be in a car for that long I think it’s better to prefer comfort over a lot of other things. Unless you are late of course..
Definitely. I've read it's quieter than some Rolls Royces. Outside of the half assed one pedal driving it really is a comfortable ride ideal for most daily activities. Renting a hybrid for long distances makes sense for the time being.
My 2013 S6 has air suspension. I agree, Audi has some of the best suspension ever. I had to replace the compressor. Did it myself. Cost $200 for a refurbished pump and 45 minutes. 10 yrs old, can't complain. Great review gentlemen.
Currently in a rental Q5 and it is incredibly comfortable even compared to my 3 series. As a luxury transportation pod, Audi is making really nice A to B cars
The etron though is significantly nicer inside than the q5 or 7. Leather and bolstering is better. Also renting is the best part since the Car wizard has nightmare stories about q5s.
I love my 2022 Q5. Room, noise level, comfort, economy, it just everything I wanted and needed. I compared it to a X3, and Macan and the Q5 hits the sweet spot. Yes it's softer than either one, but that works for the highway cruising, which is the majority of my driving. It is also quicker than either of those, 0-60 in 5.5 according to C&D. BTW it typically gets 30MPG on the highway! Bottom line I love it!
I have an etron love it, I don’t care about the range as my daily driving is well within. Not an ounce of trouble super comfortable, looks and feels great, 65k in three years and will buy another!
1 month owner of the Q8E, daily driving from home to work, car is phenomenal. I came from a 2021 Model Y. I average 3.5 mi/kW, so on my first road trip last week in eco mode, I got nearly 300+ miles on a full charge. I did have one moment of range anxiety as the EA charger on the return trip (that I had used previously on the trip up) wasn't working, and had to pay at a chargepoint charger. Advantage to Teslas supercharger network (never had a charger that didn't work with my model y). Overall I am still in love with my audi vs the tesla I traded in
@Dave--FkTheDeepstate Top 3? 1. Interior creature comforts (ventilated seats, sound system, usable sunroof) 2. Air (adaptive) suspension. Had a few off road moments (dirt trails on my trip, that I was able to switch to off road mode on) 3. Android car play / Amazon music available through the audi mmi Top 3 things I miss from my tesla 1. User interface is superior to audi 2. Supercharger network 3. Efficiency of power train/battery.
I recently turned in my 2020 Etron. I liked my time with the Etron. It was comfortable and quiet. But frankly was not impressed by the Q8. Everything inside of it is identical. It drove the same. The range bump from 220 to 280miles was its biggest update. Enjoy the ride. I have no regret with my time with the old Etron but didn't think that the Etron is that competitive in this segment anymore.
I have a week now with my Q8e, wife has an Ariya; we’re fully electric. The Q8e is amazing, the ride experience is so good. Barely hear any road noise and feel any road bumps. This is my first luxury car and I absolutely love the interior and the fact that it doesn’t look like an EV, no gimmicks.
1989. First year of high school for me. Phoenix, AZ--a large town then. My neighbor's family was from Belgium. His dad had a black Chevy Celebrity Eurosport and was a plumbing company executive for a foreign distributor. He drove it fast. My parents' cars were old and unreliable--a Rambler, a Pontiac GTO, some weird Oldsmobile from the 1960s. My dad used to get all the car magazines, even the European ones which were expensive, and I always imagined when we would one day own such cars together. We had a far less nice house and our Belgium neighbors seemed like they were living in some pre-Ikea future. Now, I care so little for all material things, but your segue took me back to a whistful time of memory, aspirations, and missing the things that really matter like family. Thanks for the time travel, Savagegeese.
The wife traded in her BMW on an Audi earlier this month. She fell in love from the first drive and had the same "it seems better screwed together" comment. Having driven it I agree. I can't believe I am saying that about a German car....
The only new BMWs I'm seeing on the road these days are the new clown shoe versions of their Z4 which someone put Toyota badges all over it for some reason.
@@vladislavdimitrov4646german cars are infamous for breaking down and being extremely unreliable. Also the newer German cars have cheaper quality materials or are poorly pieced together (creaks and shaking of interior parts)
@@marekd.7350 hmm, i mean i can afford them, but I prefer Japanese made vehicles, more specifically Lexus. German brands have been riding on their brand heritage for too long and a German government sponsored news outlet even did a segment on the fact that German brands are falling behind in quality and relying on their reputation of old. But to each their own. If you own a German, I won’t say anything as it was your choice and i’m sure you’re happy with it.
I accidentally found this channel about 7 years ago. I thought it was going to be about geese and birds, but the primary focus appears to be about cars. To this day, the channel maintains its very confusing introduction and unconventional naming scheme; and I haven't learned much about geese. But I have learned a lot about friendship.
The Chevy Celebrity plug was hilarious! My friend's first car was the Celebrity hand me down from his parents when they bought a new at the time 1994 Camry. That thing was still going strong after almost 35 years on the road with only doing oil and filter changes, until he finally sold it for a used Mustang after he paid off his student loans. And his parent's Camry was still going and looked great since it was garage kept when they decided to get a new Accord a couple years ago, his dad says it was one of the worst decisions he ever made!
Thanks for another great review. I just got the Sportback Q8 S line and everything you said about the drive was on point. I came from a Gas Q8 to this ev and I love the EV more.
Just picked up a 2019 e-tron... Basically the same car with an even worse range 😂 But really, if you don't drive 200 miles a day, and can charge at home... Buy a used one for half off, it's incredible!
@@NVIDIAGeekify I get about ~210 miles of range (varies per driver), so actually more than the 204 miles they estimated when new. Audi had a software update that unlocked a bit more out of it.
While I really don't like Audi as a brand, I can commend them for their exterior designs! They know how to do tasteful beautiful modern elegance. Unlike Volkswagen which look like trying to bore to death, kind of 'worst of Bauhaus', Audi finds the sweet spot between being boring and waging war on boredom. It says a lot that I perceive this SUV(!) as not just OK but actually enjoyable to look at. (Because I prefer restraint over messiness.) 11:44 You can charge the battery with the automotive contrast of that passby. P.S.: That they named an iconically conservative car "Celebrity" is funny.
Yeah after the MDX type s video I stated the q7/q8 are probably the best riding cars in the segment for similar money. Now the e Tron just takes the fairly muted engine out of that package and make it an even better luxury car.
I'm a business man who does business. Corporate Audi fits my strictly professional business man aesthetic. I will listen to Mahler as I drive to my office to do business professionally. But unironically.
I get that the front emblem is the radar and such, but how cool would it have been had they used a standard emblem in its place to let the back light pour through the silhouette 👌
I actually prefer the more "boring" interior. Yes, it's very spartan and conservative, but it was my favorite part of the interior on my Mk7 GTI when I bought it in 2014. Now, almost a decade later, I still think the interior is better aesthetically than most of the newer cars in the segment, including the Mk8 gen of the same car. Sure it may not be flashy, but at least it won't look like a garbage can or some kind of interpretive modern art nightmare in another 10 years. Honda got some flak for making their new interiors more "boring" too, but I think we'll look back on them in several years and see how well they've held up, too.
Audi was the 1st, as I recall, with the tablet sticking out on the dash... and thankfully and hopefully may finally be over that look. This is a neat space... nicely wrapped.
It's so funny,, I loved the self-mocking video as I've seen so many reviews of this that say the same. Functionally brilliant, but it's not like, different. And then they can never define what that "different thing" is that I am supposedly missing. Other cars have ummm... web browsers, yeah... Wha???? GTFO... I don't want / need a popcorn maker in my car.
Got one (2024) and yes they may seem conservative and i would like to see more options in the MMI and better integration of maps and functions in the phone to to the head up display and maybe some more info on battery condition for example. Ride comfort is fantastic, and its silent ! when i take calls during driving people don't even hear i'm in the car using the handsfree, and that's at a highway speed. Ride quality and performance wise, i do outrun my neighbors new Golf GTI so even if its smooth it packs a seizeable punch.
Great Review guys, going so deep into tech and looking always underneath the car and the hood. This one is what you say - too conservative for me. I would take the iX over it, which I just test-drove.
I had hoped Hyundai/Genesis were going to complete with Lexus or Audi. It just hasn’t happened. The Germans were caught off guard by Japan,however with the electric transformation in full swing, the Germans once again may take the lead. Lexus was hands down the best overall brand to own, but I always wanted a nice Audi with no reliability issues. The Etron I feel gives me a hassle free German car experience.
"The Germans were caught off guard by Japan,however with the electric transformation in full swing..." Wat? Are you from an unforeseen future? Japanese brands are still dragging their feet on doing anything EV, unless you're mistaking a couple milquetoaste sprinkling of hybird drivetrains for "EVs." [hint, those aren't EVs]
@@colin-nekritz [Context]. " the germans were caught off guard" relating to the development of Lexus as a luxury brand and the pure automotive gold standard of the "LS" Program. Relating to EV's. yes. Japan is behind, but I feel they are predicting a more hydrogen based automotive market than we have now.
@@lzh4950 That’s seems very logical. The former CEO of Toyota has stated several times that the ratio of hybrid vehicles to electric vehicles was very significant. This ratio as a production ratio. One 50kw battery pack in an ev can produce 30 hybrids. The logical route is making hybrids to reduce overall emissions not ev. Later stages would include plug in hybrid followed by fuel cell hydrogen.
Doesn’t change the fact that M3 and MY suspension downright sucks. Owned M3P, e-tron SB, MYP and now M3 LR. MY is just the worst as far as suspension goes. A German made one even… it sucked.
Not surprised you guys loved the E-Tron. For what it is, it’s truly the best in its class with the asterisk of ev attached to it. Really puts Tesla to shame. One comment, at 4:30 might want to put a note that charging time is for a level 3 charger, level 2 maxes out at 9kw/h.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722hich car in production has these next generation batteries? Everywhere I see rn cars all are fitted with similar Li ion battery packs which are heavy and the overall car is much heavier than a similar sized normal vehicles. A F150 electric weighs 6500 pounds compared to 4000 for normal F150. That difference is a car in itself.
@@siddharthgoyal4008 yeah that's crazy I mean with next gen which will come out without Li and will be solid state batteries, they will not come out next year but soon - I hope 2025, 2 years from now according to several sources.
I had this since 2019. The biggest negative for me is it is really hard to judge where the front corner of the car is relative to the curb or the apex of a turn. Other than that the range is slight too low for some longer short distance.
Always wanted a Q5. The trouble was, right next door to the Audi dealer (where the customer service sucks, unfortunately) was the Porsche dealer. After driving a Q5 I drove the then brand new 2015 Macan S. 7 Porsches later, I'm a happy fella. As much as I love Audi and their interiors have been top notch for years, I feel it would be a step down from Porsche.
Conservative is an odd way to describe any Audi. Understated is the typical word used when compared to its German/luxury rivals, which I tend to agree with. Still far nicer looking than most vehicles on the road. By conservative, do you just mean it doesn't have tacky and likely soon to be dated design features that cheaper brands throw on their appliance vehicles?
I think they meant conservative compared to other more overly or aggressively styled Audi designs. However, even though I think you are kind of both saying the same thing, conservative would not be the correct way to describe the tacky over styled things lower car brands throw on their cars. I would tend to think the opposite. Most of those things are copy cat hyper styling that date those vehicles to a time where those specific trends were fashionable. I do 💯 agree with you that this is a more timeless design if that is what you were alluding to.
Nah, conservative = boring in this case, and I'm an Audi guy, and they often are boring looking, this said, they tend to age better for it than some of their more [COUGH BMW MERC COUGH] counterparts.
I’ve had a very different experience in a reg q5 in comfort mode it didn’t feel like it was connected to the ground, it was quiet but had to keep it in dynamic to actually feel liken it wasn’t wallowing around.
I like tthe Q8... but honestly it will be a no brainer to purchase a Q6 to replace my SQ5 for the electric move... because this one is bigger great review.
4:26 You mean a DC Fast Charger, Level 2 EVSEs provide 208-240VAC to the vehicle's onboard grid charger where that AC voltage is rectified to the DC voltage the battery operates at. The fastest Level 2 chargers charge slow in comparison to the slowest DC Fast chargers.
I'm surprised the reviewers highlight all the good stuff about Audi, most jounalists just complaints on Audi's understeer characteristics. The great comfort level, the way the car is put together just radiates quality like no other, and the super easy steering wheel. I am on my 3rd Audi because of these qualities. Under normal driving condition including winter blizzard condition, Audi handles better than any car in the world. The understeer behavior is very much non-existent in real world application. On race-track, it won't win any lap times but lets be real, how many of you actually ever track your car?
Had this as a rental recently in a small German town, and compared to my other cars it is a ton more weight and about a meter or 3ft more in length. Everything felt like driving through a miniature version of home. I dwarved some agricultural equipment with this. And you go and call it compact. I have no idea how to scale the US down in my head so everything becomes understandable. Meaning no offense.
Ha! Lived in Germany before and now in Italy, so I understand you entirely. When I go back to the States, it is a different world. Bigger roads, bigger parking spaces, and much, much bigger trucks on the road. Many years ago we moved from Europe to the States and had to buy bigger vehicles just so we didn't feel dwarfed on the roads.
The value of the "bland" corporate approach is that it doesn't divert resources from more important aspects. I have to imagine that Audi's approach makes for considered and effective product planning. Injecting excitement means chasing consumer trends and all the negatives that entails. Assuming, of course, that an automaker cares about anything more than short term leases. Speaking of consumers, I'm convinced that most consumers equate a choppy, poorly calibrated ride with performance. It's not sporty if there isn't drama. Hence why so many automakers set their cars up the way they do.
I listen to the entire yacht rock playlist while driving my Nd Miata through the Rockies. I keep forgetting by Michael McDonald is a fantastic song. Get some Toto, boz scaggs, steely Dan, doobie brothers, and Fleetwood Mac. Could listen all dey erry Dey
Glad to see a review that appreciate the eTron for what it’s excellent at. I’m on my third eTron cause I couldn’t find anything else that has better ride quality, quietness, fit and finish. The eTron is one of the most underrated vehicles in the market. I must have become a boring conservative old fart as I found the q8 eTron perfectly styled inside out 😂. It’s not weird for weirdness sake like many EVs in the market. Yes. The color makes a big difference. I like mine in Chronos grey.
SG, word has it that Toyota has a technological upgrade in batteries coming thru that could move EV ranges into the realm of acceptability (or make for a lighter car). Had any conversations with experts on this?
Audi is the only German option anymore for a sane person. The BMWs are horrifically styled and the Benzes look good on the outside but the screen overload is unfortunate.
comparing tesla to this is a great idea! for accuracy we should have the latest data on latest year models at similar price points (with incentives in mind)
I came interested in the Audi, but I left shopping for a Chevy Celebrity.
Sweet! Eurosport? I'm a Bonneville SSEi fan myself.
I too, am now interested in the Chevy Celebrity
Ehh... they strike me as being a little too conservative.
@@joshua.harazinthat’s crazy talk
A fine choice for a true gentleman. With that Celebrity sitting in your driveway you'll be the envy of the neighborhood.
This is what I love about the Audi's I've owned. You're never looking at something in the interior and wondering why it was designed that way? Everything is cohesive - if boring to some - but ages very well.
I’ve never seen Mark more engaged in a vehicle ever!
I appreciate Audi for not stucking a BestBuy ipad on top of the dash. Looks so much better when its incorporated like that.
the thing is... i hate the stuck on ipad look too. but i drove another car that had the screen lower like this and my damn arm was covering half the screen when i glance over meanwhile the "tablet" in my fiesta is much quicker to look at for navigation and such. maybe integrating the screen higher up would work? are there any examples of that? anytime i imagine the screen being more integrated it would make the dashbord look massive and weird.
After driving a car with a screen down there you'll wish for an iPad stuck on top of dash. Functionality 0.
It may look nicer but you have to take your eyes off the road for quite a bit longer. Tablet stuck on the dash is popular for many reasons.
I think people hated the screens because they used cheap low quality screens with massive bezels.
What is the difference between a Best Buy iPad and.... literally any other iPad?
I’ve got the 2019 model. I drive 20k miles a year, this is the perfect car. It is so hard to be mad in this car when you are in traffic, getting a massage and the seats heated or cooled. If you are going to be in a car for that long I think it’s better to prefer comfort over a lot of other things.
Unless you are late of course..
Definitely. I've read it's quieter than some Rolls Royces. Outside of the half assed one pedal driving it really is a comfortable ride ideal for most daily activities. Renting a hybrid for long distances makes sense for the time being.
“Mazda? Not in my parking lot!” 😂
My 2013 S6 has air suspension. I agree, Audi has some of the best suspension ever. I had to replace the compressor. Did it myself. Cost $200 for a refurbished pump and 45 minutes. 10 yrs old, can't complain. Great review gentlemen.
Currently in a rental Q5 and it is incredibly comfortable even compared to my 3 series. As a luxury transportation pod, Audi is making really nice A to B cars
The etron though is significantly nicer inside than the q5 or 7. Leather and bolstering is better.
Also renting is the best part since the Car wizard has nightmare stories about q5s.
Audi's a joke and I wouldn't be caught dead in one.
@@Rocket9944 lol
@@Rocket9944 butthurt Bee58 lover
I love my 2022 Q5. Room, noise level, comfort, economy, it just everything I wanted and needed. I compared it to a X3, and Macan and the Q5 hits the sweet spot. Yes it's softer than either one, but that works for the highway cruising, which is the majority of my driving. It is also quicker than either of those, 0-60 in 5.5 according to C&D. BTW it typically gets 30MPG on the highway! Bottom line I love it!
This is refreshing after the XM review
I have an etron love it, I don’t care about the range as my daily driving is well within. Not an ounce of trouble super comfortable, looks and feels great, 65k in three years and will buy another!
1 month owner of the Q8E, daily driving from home to work, car is phenomenal. I came from a 2021 Model Y. I average 3.5 mi/kW, so on my first road trip last week in eco mode, I got nearly 300+ miles on a full charge. I did have one moment of range anxiety as the EA charger on the return trip (that I had used previously on the trip up) wasn't working, and had to pay at a chargepoint charger. Advantage to Teslas supercharger network (never had a charger that didn't work with my model y). Overall I am still in love with my audi vs the tesla I traded in
Top 3 things you love your Audi for, which sucked in your model Y....?
Not surprised that SG loved your anti Tesla comment. ☹️
@Dave--FkTheDeepstate
Top 3?
1. Interior creature comforts (ventilated seats, sound system, usable sunroof)
2. Air (adaptive) suspension. Had a few off road moments (dirt trails on my trip, that I was able to switch to off road mode on)
3. Android car play / Amazon music available through the audi mmi
Top 3 things I miss from my tesla
1. User interface is superior to audi
2. Supercharger network
3. Efficiency of power train/battery.
I recently turned in my 2020 Etron. I liked my time with the Etron. It was comfortable and quiet. But frankly was not impressed by the Q8. Everything inside of it is identical. It drove the same. The range bump from 220 to 280miles was its biggest update. Enjoy the ride. I have no regret with my time with the old Etron but didn't think that the Etron is that competitive in this segment anymore.
For $25,000 more over a Model Y it should be a better. Still waiting on SavageGeese to review the best selling vehicle in the world...
@@Dave--FkTheDeepstate anti-tesla comment? haha, sweet jesus.
I've never wanted a Chevy Celebrity more in my life. Dress for success, baby!
I have a week now with my Q8e, wife has an Ariya; we’re fully electric. The Q8e is amazing, the ride experience is so good. Barely hear any road noise and feel any road bumps. This is my first luxury car and I absolutely love the interior and the fact that it doesn’t look like an EV, no gimmicks.
1989. First year of high school for me. Phoenix, AZ--a large town then. My neighbor's family was from Belgium. His dad had a black Chevy Celebrity Eurosport and was a plumbing company executive for a foreign distributor. He drove it fast. My parents' cars were old and unreliable--a Rambler, a Pontiac GTO, some weird Oldsmobile from the 1960s. My dad used to get all the car magazines, even the European ones which were expensive, and I always imagined when we would one day own such cars together. We had a far less nice house and our Belgium neighbors seemed like they were living in some pre-Ikea future. Now, I care so little for all material things, but your segue took me back to a whistful time of memory, aspirations, and missing the things that really matter like family. Thanks for the time travel, Savagegeese.
The wife traded in her BMW on an Audi earlier this month. She fell in love from the first drive and had the same "it seems better screwed together" comment. Having driven it I agree. I can't believe I am saying that about a German car....
What do you mean with the last sentence of your comment? And what BMW?
The only new BMWs I'm seeing on the road these days are the new clown shoe versions of their Z4 which someone put Toyota badges all over it for some reason.
@@vladislavdimitrov4646german cars are infamous for breaking down and being extremely unreliable. Also the newer German cars have cheaper quality materials or are poorly pieced together (creaks and shaking of interior parts)
@@good-tn9sr I used to say that when I couldn't afford them. 😆
@@marekd.7350 hmm, i mean i can afford them, but I prefer Japanese made vehicles, more specifically Lexus. German brands have been riding on their brand heritage for too long and a German government sponsored news outlet even did a segment on the fact that German brands are falling behind in quality and relying on their reputation of old. But to each their own. If you own a German, I won’t say anything as it was your choice and i’m sure you’re happy with it.
I accidentally found this channel about 7 years ago. I thought it was going to be about geese and birds, but the primary focus appears to be about cars. To this day, the channel maintains its very confusing introduction and unconventional naming scheme; and I haven't learned much about geese. But I have learned a lot about friendship.
Underrated comment ❤
The true goose was the z06 corvette we drove along the way
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Oh my god that old Chevy commercial 😂😂😂. My mom had one of those when I was a kid.
The Chevy Celebrity plug was hilarious! My friend's first car was the Celebrity hand me down from his parents when they bought a new at the time 1994 Camry. That thing was still going strong after almost 35 years on the road with only doing oil and filter changes, until he finally sold it for a used Mustang after he paid off his student loans. And his parent's Camry was still going and looked great since it was garage kept when they decided to get a new Accord a couple years ago, his dad says it was one of the worst decisions he ever made!
I had a 2021 with around 185 mile range at 80%. Never had a problem with the range. Just about to get a 2024.
I like it! VAG vehicles just generally very solid luxury cars!
I quite like how conservative this looks, I don't see it as a problem at all.
Thanks for another great review. I just got the Sportback Q8 S line and everything you said about the drive was on point. I came from a Gas Q8 to this ev and I love the EV more.
12:26 gawd I’d love to get into analyzing car culture of the past. Everything pre-90’s is such an enigma to me
Myoldcar channel does a good job, he focuses on 90s and older cars.
Just picked up a 2019 e-tron... Basically the same car with an even worse range 😂 But really, if you don't drive 200 miles a day, and can charge at home... Buy a used one for half off, it's incredible!
It's a great deal. It or a new Ioniq 5 are the only worthwhile competitors in the price range. The Mustang left me wanting.
how much has the battery gone?
@@NVIDIAGeekify I get about ~210 miles of range (varies per driver), so actually more than the 204 miles they estimated when new. Audi had a software update that unlocked a bit more out of it.
Listening to Rush while reviewing an Audi, I knew you were a quality human.
A B58? Not in my driveway!
[Jack would like to know your location]
I saw Rush queued up on the Infotainment screen, I salute you sir! Great review as you guys always do.
I saw that too. 'Working Man', which is not who is shopping for an Audi Q8 E-Tron!
@@dougrobinson8602 wonder if that was unintended irony.
That commercial is exactly what I imagine it's like to go golfing with someone in sales. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
While I really don't like Audi as a brand, I can commend them for their exterior designs! They know how to do tasteful beautiful modern elegance. Unlike Volkswagen which look like trying to bore to death, kind of 'worst of Bauhaus', Audi finds the sweet spot between being boring and waging war on boredom.
It says a lot that I perceive this SUV(!) as not just OK but actually enjoyable to look at. (Because I prefer restraint over messiness.)
11:44 You can charge the battery with the automotive contrast of that passby.
P.S.: That they named an iconically conservative car "Celebrity" is funny.
Yeah after the MDX type s video I stated the q7/q8 are probably the best riding cars in the segment for similar money. Now the e Tron just takes the fairly muted engine out of that package and make it an even better luxury car.
It's a completely different platform than the ICE Q7/Q8. However, both platforms use air suspension.
I'm a business man who does business. Corporate Audi fits my strictly professional business man aesthetic. I will listen to Mahler as I drive to my office to do business professionally.
But unironically.
The final 80’s video is hilarious 😂
I get that the front emblem is the radar and such, but how cool would it have been had they used a standard emblem in its place to let the back light pour through the silhouette 👌
I actually prefer the more "boring" interior. Yes, it's very spartan and conservative, but it was my favorite part of the interior on my Mk7 GTI when I bought it in 2014. Now, almost a decade later, I still think the interior is better aesthetically than most of the newer cars in the segment, including the Mk8 gen of the same car. Sure it may not be flashy, but at least it won't look like a garbage can or some kind of interpretive modern art nightmare in another 10 years. Honda got some flak for making their new interiors more "boring" too, but I think we'll look back on them in several years and see how well they've held up, too.
Screw the Audi, give me that Chevy Celebrity to prove my success as a REAL businessman
After the Video: Chevy Celebrity 📈
The aesthetic appeals to me. I still miss when this was BMW's jam, the "1 sausage in 3 lengths" design of the E36/E38/E39 period.
Audi was the 1st, as I recall, with the tablet sticking out on the dash... and thankfully and hopefully may finally be over that look. This is a neat space... nicely wrapped.
This is all great and stuff but what the hell did you guys do to Turbowski???
Great. Now I want to buy a Celebrity Eurosport.
I absolutely love that they put in the vintage car commercial!
That chevy celebrity skit was glorious!
Am I weird for absolutely loving what they call "corporate" styling?
Not at all, some people take Ambien, others Benadryl, and yet others drink themselves to sleep. You do you!
Audi does it well. Their designs tend to age better as a result.
It's so funny,, I loved the self-mocking video as I've seen so many reviews of this that say the same. Functionally brilliant, but it's not like, different. And then they can never define what that "different thing" is that I am supposedly missing. Other cars have ummm... web browsers, yeah... Wha???? GTFO... I don't want / need a popcorn maker in my car.
I think that Chevy ad convinced me, I'm going to get a Mazda 929!
Got one (2024) and yes they may seem conservative and i would like to see more options in the MMI and better integration of maps and functions in the phone to to the head up display and maybe some more info on battery condition for example. Ride comfort is fantastic, and its silent ! when i take calls during driving people don't even hear i'm in the car using the handsfree, and that's at a highway speed. Ride quality and performance wise, i do outrun my neighbors new Golf GTI so even if its smooth it packs a seizeable punch.
LOL at the Celebrity commercial. I had the video playing in the background and thought that Harry's Garage started playing.
Great Review guys, going so deep into tech and looking always underneath the car and the hood. This one is what you say - too conservative for me. I would take the iX over it, which I just test-drove.
Man those boys were really giving Dan Duran the hard sell on that Celebrity, I hope he stretched for the Mazda.
I'm cross shopping this e-tron with the celebrity eurosport. Both pretty conservative designs but I'm not sure about reliability.
I had hoped Hyundai/Genesis were going to complete with Lexus or Audi. It just hasn’t happened. The Germans were caught off guard by Japan,however with the electric transformation in full swing, the Germans once again may take the lead. Lexus was hands down the best overall brand to own, but I always wanted a nice Audi with no reliability issues. The Etron I feel gives me a hassle free German car experience.
"The Germans were caught off guard by Japan,however with the electric transformation in full swing..."
Wat? Are you from an unforeseen future? Japanese brands are still dragging their feet on doing anything EV, unless you're mistaking a couple milquetoaste sprinkling of hybird drivetrains for "EVs." [hint, those aren't EVs]
@@colin-nekritz [Context]. " the germans were caught off guard" relating to the development of Lexus as a luxury brand and the pure automotive gold standard of the "LS" Program. Relating to EV's. yes. Japan is behind, but I feel they are predicting a more hydrogen based automotive market than we have now.
@@sheepcreeksociety7985 Actually in Europe I heard Lexus sells only hybrids?
@@lzh4950 That’s seems very logical. The former CEO of Toyota has stated several times that the ratio of hybrid vehicles to electric vehicles was very significant. This ratio as a production ratio. One 50kw battery pack in an ev can produce 30 hybrids. The logical route is making hybrids to reduce overall emissions not ev. Later stages would include plug in hybrid followed by fuel cell hydrogen.
Thanks!
Honestly, of course this should have a better ride than a Model 3 or Model Y.
The Audi starts at almost $80,000. The 3 and Y start at $40k and $50k.
Doesn’t change the fact that M3 and MY suspension downright sucks. Owned M3P, e-tron SB, MYP and now M3 LR. MY is just the worst as far as suspension goes. A German made one even… it sucked.
Not surprised you guys loved the E-Tron. For what it is, it’s truly the best in its class with the asterisk of ev attached to it. Really puts Tesla to shame.
One comment, at 4:30 might want to put a note that charging time is for a level 3 charger, level 2 maxes out at 9kw/h.
Oh that brought back traumatic memories of those Chevrolet Celebrity cultists! I never saw my Dad again.
Loved the commercial!
We're going to have to upgrade our roads and bridges, these EVs weigh as much as WWII tanks.
Batteries will go lighter - next generation should have half the weight. Normal size American cars all weigh in this area.
Don’t worry they will start taxing by the mile as gas tax revenues start to fall.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722hich car in production has these next generation batteries?
Everywhere I see rn cars all are fitted with similar Li ion battery packs which are heavy and the overall car is much heavier than a similar sized normal vehicles.
A F150 electric weighs 6500 pounds compared to 4000 for normal F150. That difference is a car in itself.
@@siddharthgoyal4008 yeah that's crazy I mean with next gen which will come out without Li and will be solid state batteries, they will not come out next year but soon - I hope 2025, 2 years from now according to several sources.
@@thetechlibrarian Yep. They'll have to do something, especially since electric vehicles tear up roads like nobody's business.
Outstanding review as always. I think with my range anxiety with EV's, I'll settle for the ICE equivalent.
Love your honest reviews! Keep up the good work!!
I had an 84 Chevy Celebrity, over 85 degrees and the emblems and rear view mirror would melt off the car.
it's a self-recycling feature, WAY ahead of its time. 😅
Too bad for the rear view mirror, but the emblems you probably could do without. 😂
I had this since 2019. The biggest negative for me is it is really hard to judge where the front corner of the car is relative to the curb or the apex of a turn. Other than that the range is slight too low for some longer short distance.
Always wanted a Q5. The trouble was, right next door to the Audi dealer (where the customer service sucks, unfortunately) was the Porsche dealer. After driving a Q5 I drove the then brand new 2015 Macan S. 7 Porsches later, I'm a happy fella. As much as I love Audi and their interiors have been top notch for years, I feel it would be a step down from Porsche.
Wow, you have no idea what you sound like, do you?
You from Portland? Sounds like you're talking about my employer 😂
Conservative is an odd way to describe any Audi. Understated is the typical word used when compared to its German/luxury rivals, which I tend to agree with. Still far nicer looking than most vehicles on the road. By conservative, do you just mean it doesn't have tacky and likely soon to be dated design features that cheaper brands throw on their appliance vehicles?
I think they meant conservative compared to other more overly or aggressively styled Audi designs. However, even though I think you are kind of both saying the same thing, conservative would not be the correct way to describe the tacky over styled things lower car brands throw on their cars. I would tend to think the opposite. Most of those things are copy cat hyper styling that date those vehicles to a time where those specific trends were fashionable. I do 💯 agree with you that this is a more timeless design if that is what you were alluding to.
Nah, conservative = boring in this case, and I'm an Audi guy, and they often are boring looking, this said, they tend to age better for it than some of their more [COUGH BMW MERC COUGH] counterparts.
Gotta love how Rush has been selected to add a little adrenaline to the "corporate" Audi drive.
Spirit of the Radio played through an (inferior to Apple CarPlay) Android audio system is the ultimate in LULs.
Had one for a weekend. Phenomenal car. Pretty much perfect.
I really hope he didn't trade the 1976 Plymouth Fury for that Chevy Celebrity. Conclusion next week???
I’ve had a very different experience in a reg q5 in comfort mode it didn’t feel like it was connected to the ground, it was quiet but had to keep it in dynamic to actually feel liken it wasn’t wallowing around.
I am not on the EV boat yet, but the Audi products I Love are the RS 6 avant and RS 7.
I like tthe Q8... but honestly it will be a no brainer to purchase a Q6 to replace my SQ5 for the electric move... because this one is bigger great review.
I used to smoke pot with E-Tron
For all Euro cars being sold in US, Audi is the one that I probably will spend some coins to buy one.
4:26 You mean a DC Fast Charger, Level 2 EVSEs provide 208-240VAC to the vehicle's onboard grid charger where that AC voltage is rectified to the DC voltage the battery operates at.
The fastest Level 2 chargers charge slow in comparison to the slowest DC Fast chargers.
I'm surprised the reviewers highlight all the good stuff about Audi, most jounalists just complaints on Audi's understeer characteristics. The great comfort level, the way the car is put together just radiates quality like no other, and the super easy steering wheel. I am on my 3rd Audi because of these qualities.
Under normal driving condition including winter blizzard condition, Audi handles better than any car in the world. The understeer behavior is very much non-existent in real world application. On race-track, it won't win any lap times but lets be real, how many of you actually ever track your car?
I was worried when he mentioned a Mazda, but then I was pleased to hear my opinion reaffirmed by the successful businessman: *Not in my driveway!*
in audi you pay for quality, with tesla you pay for range
Lol, explain audi what you mean by audi quality. Design and comfort, sure. Anything else is reaching.
Tesla for tech
Quality and Audi don’t belong in the same sentence…
And hype for "Elon is so smart and can't make bad product"... c'mon Tesla lovers, bring it on! :)
beg to differ, every time i lift the hood, there is cheap plastic everywhere
Had this as a rental recently in a small German town, and compared to my other cars it is a ton more weight and about a meter or 3ft more in length. Everything felt like driving through a miniature version of home. I dwarved some agricultural equipment with this. And you go and call it compact. I have no idea how to scale the US down in my head so everything becomes understandable. Meaning no offense.
Ha! Lived in Germany before and now in Italy, so I understand you entirely. When I go back to the States, it is a different world. Bigger roads, bigger parking spaces, and much, much bigger trucks on the road. Many years ago we moved from Europe to the States and had to buy bigger vehicles just so we didn't feel dwarfed on the roads.
Here in the US, this car is a midget on the road. It is compact by American SUV standards😂
thank you for the video , can you please review a regular Q8 ? I like their styling , and am considering one , thank you and hello from Miami , FL
excellent balanced, insightful reviews on savage geese.
The value of the "bland" corporate approach is that it doesn't divert resources from more important aspects. I have to imagine that Audi's approach makes for considered and effective product planning. Injecting excitement means chasing consumer trends and all the negatives that entails. Assuming, of course, that an automaker cares about anything more than short term leases.
Speaking of consumers, I'm convinced that most consumers equate a choppy, poorly calibrated ride with performance. It's not sporty if there isn't drama. Hence why so many automakers set their cars up the way they do.
That Chevy add was amazing
Nice segue into the Celebrity commercial!
Your a celebrity now!!🤪🤪 I new I shouldn't of bought that citation!!
You can pick up a 2nd hand one of these for 35k, I wonder how much has changed. It would be a nice around town car for the Missus.
I listen to the entire yacht rock playlist while driving my Nd Miata through the Rockies. I keep forgetting by Michael McDonald is a fantastic song. Get some Toto, boz scaggs, steely Dan, doobie brothers, and Fleetwood Mac. Could listen all dey erry Dey
How is your type R going?
Glad to see a review that appreciate the eTron for what it’s excellent at.
I’m on my third eTron cause I couldn’t find anything else that has better ride quality, quietness, fit and finish.
The eTron is one of the most underrated vehicles in the market.
I must have become a boring conservative old fart as I found the q8 eTron perfectly styled inside out 😂. It’s not weird for weirdness sake like many EVs in the market.
Yes. The color makes a big difference. I like mine in Chronos grey.
Screens used instead of buttons for aircon. Makes no sense. Even as a mobile apps developer I still hate that trend.
Love the plaid golf pants. They should be in the Smithsonian!
Savage geesers never disappoint!
Why does Jack twitch the steering wheel so much?
SG, word has it that Toyota has a technological upgrade in batteries coming thru that could move EV ranges into the realm of acceptability (or make for a lighter car). Had any conversations with experts on this?
corporate looking fastish and comfy.. man i want it.
Best electric SUV bargain right now. Under 50k for a decent mileage one, with this build quality? Amazing
Don't think we didn't notice the matching grey t-shirts that also match this car...
I’m with you Jack, I don’t love EVs either.
When will you be comparing Mark's Celebrity Eurosport Wagon with Jack's Lumina Z34?
Growing up, my best friend's dad had a brown 1984 Celebrity. We drove the snot out of that thing
4:36 On DC fast charger* not on L2 AC charging
Audi is the only German option anymore for a sane person. The BMWs are horrifically styled and the Benzes look good on the outside but the screen overload is unfortunate.
I certainly prefer the e-Tron GT sedan, but I like this one. It's conservative, but I think it looks good.
comparing tesla to this is a great idea!
for accuracy we should have the latest data on latest year models at similar price points (with incentives in mind)
Glad this isn't some edgy wanabe race car SUV (cough, MDX/RDX/XM/X5M/ETC). Smooth, understated, seamless.