Nintendo's 20-Year Plan
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
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The Switch's popularity feels a lot more healthy than the Wii. People aren't just buying it because of a few casual titles only to dismiss it not long after. The last time there was a perfect balance between the core Nintendo titles, third party games, and more casual games was probably the DS.
I'd personally almost say the switch is MORE healthy than the DS was, since the DS(as far as i know) was cheaper than the Switch to buy multiples of for families, and the Switch has less casual games than the DS did imo.
Yeah that's what I've been saying, Switch sold 300 millions more software and that's without pack-in titles. People actually buying games on it, and most of the time they're actually proper games and now just 2 dollar shovelware your parents saw and thought it's gonna be just like Wii Sport
@@TakisEnjoyer It also sold about 40 million more consoles? It sold 1.2 billion units of software which, in terms of "average games sold per console sold", is about 9 games a console. Equal to the Wii's proportional game sales, actually. Impressive but plausible would have been an average of 12 (1.68 billion)-15 (2.1 billion).
The switch imo didn't reach the pop culture heights of the wii, it didn't have as many families playing it together. But it's a quieter, more long term success
While I do not expect the switch 2 to be the next wii u, there will certainly be a drop off of 10s of millions of sales over its life compared to switch. This might seem fine to casual consumers, but share holders will of course once again put the fire to the feet of Nintendo as they will be expecting repeated success
Remember when there was so much pre release hype for the Wii that Eric Cartman froze himself in a glacier so that he didn’t have to wait any longer?
Membah’?
I membah @@FoolsGould
One of my favorite episodes
The funny thing is Nintendo has been working around this philosophy for decades and people still say "bUt WhY cAnT tHeY mAkE tHeIr CoNsOlE mOrE pOwErFuL?"
Said people buy 500 dollar plastic boxes and spend more time online arguing than playing said box. There's a recurring joke on Twitter whenever someone jokingly says "PS5 has no games" and said people react negatively.
Specs mean nothing if there's no games that turns people's heads.
hopefully the new switch next year will be the last one as console technology has plateaued.
@@JeskidoYT it’s a fair question to ask. Given the switch is technically a handheld I think that’s valid for why the tech isn’t as powerful.
But before that, they were always a generation behind in terms of tech
@@MustacheDLuffy"Always"? No.
With the hindsight of 20 years, it's pretty funny to hear Iwata say "today's consoles already offer fairly photorealistic expressions". Bit of a stretch, but fair.
It was hubris on Nintendo's part. You don't just get to announce we're past horse power and for it to be that way. Nintendo alienated itself, the industry went the other way. We're at that point now though of diminishing returns, where you don't need the best or latest hardware to have your games look good and the cost of game development is becoming a liability. The Switch can also still run (inferior) ports of modern games. Wii simply couldn't run the game engines. It lacked all of the big AAA games from other developers, which is why it wasn't an option for serious gamers. This tarnished Nintendo's reputation, which came to bite them back with the Wii U, when they couldn't reproduce another short-lived gimmick hype.
I understand though they were ready to try something else after the Gamecube.
@@desamsterit wasn't Hubris , it was emulating the competition. They saw the ps2 being at number 1 despite being THE weakest of the 3 consoles and more expensive then the gamecube going ahead only cause it had a gimmick called DVD player and so they figured they would sell more if they focused on having a gimmick then competing on raw power alone and in that regard the Wii did alot better . However balancing the next consoles (3DS and wiiU) was catastrophic a problem that sony also had whit the ps4 and vita but where nintendo picked to abandon the Home console and focus on Handheld , sony picked to abandon the Handheld console instead which why we dont have a new psp iteration.
@@BigaloMax PS2 was the weakest but it wasn't a generation behind. One sidedly declaring the hardware race was over and power no longer mattered was hubris. Wii was a severely underpowered, handicapped system. It did so well because of a gimmick, but that wore off and then Nintendo was behind the curve. It is coming to fruition now 2 decades later. It was bound to happen sometime, just not when Nintendo declared it prematurely,
Not at that point. The wii u and wii lacked the huge games of that generation because of it. It makes sense now with even the tiny switch able to run a couple triple A games decent enough, but the wii couldn't.
Not a stretch at all imo. He was speaking with hindsight at the time too. Relative to twenty years prior, the early 2000s really did offer extremely realistic visuals, and most agree that the twenty years since haven’t offered quite as impressive a leap. The introduction and refinement of 3D can’t be replicated again
And Nintendo keeps expanding and built two new massive office buildings since 20 years ago. It is truly impressive how Iwata and old man Yamauchi noticed something that may sound obvious today but somehow everyone else in the industry doesn't seem to understand
Nintendo's 20-Year Plan:
Switch 2: 2024 - 2034
Switch 3: 2034 - 2044
That's what I feel like some people don't realize. Even though Iwata has been dead for 9 years now, almost a decade, he is responsible for the insane success Nintendo is still seeing right now in 2024. So it will be interesting to see how the Switch 2 fares because this will be the first new console without Iwata's involvement since the Gamecube in 2001.
Nintendo is always working on things well in advanced just like app quiz and I’m sure that the water had at least a say in the design of the successor to the Nintendo switch before his tragic passing
In PS3’s defense, it had a bloody Blu-ray lector when dedicated players were easily over 500$. It was good value if you started getting into HD movies.
I remember when the original ds came out. It was amazing. The two screens, the touch screen, microphone… I remember playing Wario Ware and Nintendogs. There was nothing like it
nintendo's key to success has been innovation, but it's this very innovation that worries some switch users.
I hope they won't be too gimmicky with the new console, they really found an already perfect formula with the switch imo
I don’t think gimmicks are a bad thing. We need to start embracing them rather than hating them.
@benmalsky9834 as long as we don't get another wii u fiasco, I'm all for it
I think there’ll be some kind of new “thing” for Switch 2, but I trust that they’ve come up with something good. One thing that Furukawa has actually said about it in investor meetings was implying that the #1 goal for it was basically to make sure it isn’t just the Switch U.
6:23 Wii has 9:1 game attachment ratio, which are very similar to PS3 and 360's attach ratios, this lie has existed for well over a decade, even though the numbers are easy to find. 101M units, 900+ Million software units.
The statement that the Wii has a low attach rate is a frustrating myth. The Wii actually had a historically HIGH attach rate. While true the 360 and PS3 were a little higher, that whole generation had massive software sales. The whole "people bought the Wii for Wii Sports and then it collected dust" concept is mostly a holdover from petty console wars.
As of the most recent numbers, the Wii still has a higher attach rate than the Switch.
When i bought my wii u as a wee little lad in middle school, i thought it was what the switch is. I thought i could walk out the door with the gamepad.
I miss Iwata so much!
Iwata lives on though developers/publishers like me who are gamers and creative people who wanna make good games.
The more videos I watch, the more I realize that Iwata really was a genius. I wish I was in the Nintendo sphere when he was in charge
The small discs and low third-party support is what doomed the GameCube, not the fact that it was similar to Sony and Microsoft's consoles
Yea I found it curious that he didnt mention just how many third-party companies were abandoning Nintendo in favor of the others. I still remember being so upset when Burnout 2 came out on the Gamecube, but Burnout 3 now under EA skipped the hardware entirely.
@@DIAC1987 and even when we got third-party games they were always the lesser version with missing features.
Gamecube had better third party support than N64. The mini discs weren't a problem storage wise.
@@desamster but not better than their competition. And the 1.5G discs were absolutely a detriment as content was cut from third party games like modes or audio and some games performed worse than their PS2 or XBox counterparts...
@@AmRealityInc Factor 5 made quality compression dev kits for Gamecube. Storage and cost were an issue on N64. They weren't on Gamecube and third party support improved significantly. Gamecube ports looked and performed better than on PS2. More than anything the issue was perceived target audience. Gamecube got stuff like Sonic, Viewtiful Joe, Super Monkey Ball, but less mature titles. The purple color, handle and colorful buttons on the controller cemented its image as kiddy when being cool and edgy was all the rage.
Edit: and devs could just print on two discs if need be, but I only ever recall a Resident Evil game being 2 discs.
I still love my WiiU, I hope it lasts forever
Better keep it plugged in then.
@@paperluigi6132 pretendo exists yknow?
As the comment before me suggested some Wii U consoles seem prone to failure as their internal chips age. At least, I saw a Twitter thread about it. If you don't plug your Wii U in regularly, it might stop working.
I recently took it out of storage where it had been for a few years at least. I modded it with aroma a couple months ago and now it's all I play. Almost 300 games across 8 generations of consoles, the WiiU is truly a gem!
hey guys
I still play my Wii to this day
I came back to the Wii after getting an upscaler.
Where others said Goodbye, I am saying Hello.
Just got done playing mine last night forever retro
To this day or to yesterday? You played it today? Hahahaha
I recently bought a Wii, as the family Wii I used as a teenager is still being used at the family home. I've had tonnes of fun playing it recently with my partner and our kids, it's a shame it's remembered now as a gimmick. The Wii has some excellent games and with upscalers, you can get some (relatively) decent image quality.
@@pubsnacks4926I think the word gimmick has been misconstrued as a bad thing. The switch’s gimmick is that it can connect to a tv and have the controller detach.
Mobile gaming pretty much stole the casual audience from the Wii and the DS and ended Nintendo's Blue Ocean strategy and the WiiU and 3DS struggled as a result
the 3ds sold okay but yeah the Wii U suffred (even if i like this console)
the 3ds was mostly because for your kid it was it or a cheap android tablet
The 3DS did sell very well after about 7 years on the market.
Nintendo seems to have finally got the happy medium with Switch of unique hardware, but with games that appeal to all markets including the core gamer. Wii leaned a little too heavily in the casuals and it left behind more traditional gamers who tend to buy a lot of games. Nintendo’s top selling games on Switch are some of their greatest games they’ve ever made from their most high profile franchises. It’s a much healthier place to be in because those type of games (ie. BotW, Mario Odyssey, New Horizons, etc.) build much stronger long term fans that will want to come back for more and explore other games of similar quality. Rather than something like Wii Fit which was a fad and then became forgotten.
3ds was launched at the wrong time too it only it would be delayed to second half of 2011
@@LoomDoom they've also gotten to have their cake and eat it too. Ring Fit Adventure and Switch Sports are both some of the best selling games on the console, so the market is still THERE for games like that too.
Wow your Japanese pronunciation is on point. I was genuinely surprised. How long have you been learning the language?
I’ve been studying Japanese for nearly 15 years, but even now I’m still very nervous about using it in videos! Thank you for the confidence boost!
-Steve
Broken down by proportion?
Wii: Roughly 9 Games Per User.
DS: Roughly 6 Games Per User.
GB: Roughly 5 Games Per User.
GBA: Roughly 5 Games Per User.
Gamecube: Roughly 10 Games Per User.
SNES: Roughly 8 Games Per User.
NES: Roughly 8 Games Per User.
Switch: Roughly 9 Games Per User.
Doesn’t that include virtual console and pack ins? Think how many Wii plays were sold with a Wii remote, or Wii sports with the Wii, or resort with Wii motion plus. Think how many games were dirt cheap, all of the shovelware. Its attach rate was VERY low
@@minecrafter3448It includes games with retail releases like Wii Sports. The vitual console, WiiWare and other digital only releases aren't included.
@@gregorymansour1763 regardless, it’s still a fairly low attach rate excluding those. The pack ins and overwhelming majority of games being sold at cheap prices boost the numbers to inaccurate degrees
I mean the Gameboy was little more than a graphing calculator adapted into a games console...which anyone who knows anything about graphing calculators will know is a surprisingly powerful thing to make.
Iwata truly knew how to do things, this is why he shall be missed.
So here is my question: how does Nintendo plan to adapt their philosophy into the design of Switch 2? It would seem almost everyone wants just a “beefier” switch, but that’s probably not enough. There has to be a reason to buy a Switch 2 that goes beyond it being the same experience but with better graphics. At the same time, if they do something radically different, they risk disappointing people with something they could perceive as “gimmicky” and in the way of the beefed up switch experience they think they want.
I personally hope it has glasses free 3D so we get 3DS games on it(I used the 3D effect constantly even though a lot seemed to not care).
But knowing Nintendo they're probably going to do some type of VR or something. Which will be BAD news for them since it will indeed be considered "gimmicky"
We'll see I guess, I hope it sells well
I think they will have to go the route of the 3DS. People do want Switch games with more power, but it also need a new and yet unnintrusive thing to frontline its marketing like the 3D was.
What exactly that may be, I don't know. Perhaps yet another attempt at VR.
I think a beefier switch is definitely enough for people to buy, it’s worked for PlayStation and the central gimmick of the switch is already so good that it doesn’t really need reiterating on that much
I think there's good chance the next Switch's "gimmick" will be a return to the dual-screen format.
true, we gotta remember that simply a more powerful system wont be a strong enough pull on its own. routes like NES>SNES, n64>gamecube, wii>wiiU show that.
one non-intrusive gimmick i still like were their patents for shoulder button scroll wheels. not a game changer but it has me thinking of convenient item management + wacky party game gimmicks possibilities
My hope is that this console transition will be akin to the NES - SNES jump, rather than a Wii - Wii U jump. My fear is that it will be the latter.
I don't know if Nintendo always lucky to have a console that has gimmick that's works or this is calculated because their strategy is only appeals to the Blue Ocean market (the casuals or market that has little or no competition)
Gaming industry is very unpredictable and feels like gaming bubbles is about to burst with so many gaming industry failing to satisfied their costumers and investors, meanwhile Nintendo hit the jackpot with Wii and now Switch.
WiiU was a failed gimmick. Wii eventually became a fad, Nintendo will always experiment with their consoles but it’s not like everything is perfect
Great video Steve. I’d love to see more of these type of videos from you! That’s cool that you connected modern Nintendo to Yupoi’s philosophy, and I think you’re right.
Satoru Iwata and Gunpei Yokoi had the ideas about the future of Nintendo, but the one who united those ideas like a gear was Hiroshi Yamauchi:
''To create an entirely new product, common sense ideas cannot convince people. What is needed in a new product must be something that will change social conventions and customs. To do this, we need insane ideas. It is out of the question to say that because everyone else does this, I will do that too. The idea of going our own way, and to do so, it is important to have a lot of time for ourselves, not to be bothered by others. If we were doing the same things as others, we would only come up with the same ideas.'' Hiroshi Yamauchi
Nintendo loves gimmicks still, but I can only think of 2 steps they can go going forward
-find a way to add dual screen play
-VR but for serious this time
this is what nintendo been doing since since the company was formed.
even though the wii u fail, i love the controller buttons and joystick layout on the wii u gamepad and it's pro controller. i say it's still one of the best design nintendo did for a gamepad controller.
One of the reasons I’m most excited to see the successor is because I’m super curious as to what Nintendo’s move is gonna be, I don’t think it’ll be just “more power” like everyone wants, there has to be something else, there are many similar products to the Switch out there in 2024.
Well, with the Nintendo Difference in full swing, I've been noticing the decline in 3rd party support. Street Fighter hasn't been on a Nintendo platform since Alpha 2 on SNES, and Madden NFL stopped getting Nintendo releases since Madden NFL 13 on Wii U. Nintendo also missed out on a bunch of cross-gen releases on the Wii U, like Destiny, DOA5 Last Round and Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 of all games. I think Nintendo should design the platform in running the newest Destiny, Persona and Street Fighter games, as they all skipped Nintendo platforms recently. Just make a system to allow Nintendo fanbases to play way more than what the SNES and Switch got. If it happens and is done right, then imagine a future where Nintendo is on par with its rivals.
Also, Nintendo will have to make their "experimental" controllers optional if they want far more games with traditional control schemes. Nintendo didn't make a 6-button arcade controller during the GameCube days, but if they do it with the next Nintendo platform, that would give more fighting game developers an incentive to make games for it.
Similar but much more expensive so their not as accessible as a Switch is. And the Switch 2 will likely be no different in that area. I'm sure their going to want to add some new element to it, but all signs point to the core idea being the same and that's how it should be. The foundation works but there is room to improve it.
@@NewGabeOrder - Actually, Super Street Fighter IV was released on 3DS as a launch title. And Street Fighter Alpha 3 got a GBA port too. Unless you meant home consoles, in which case you're right to my knowledge.
Nintendo's alternative console releases have bben a failure.
DS - 3DS
Wii - Wii U
N64 - Gamecube
Lets see if Switch 2 can replicate Switch's success.
Hint: it wont.
@@AeyGee Your forgetting the NES to the SNES, Gameboy to Gameboy Advance, and the gamecube was'nt a sequel to the N64. But if your going to count that anyway then then obviously the gamecube to Wii was a success as well. But even ignoring all that things are much different than before. Their priorites are exactly where they need to be to make the Switch 2 a success, including having games ready to go at launch. We know a 3d Mario is most likely for that plus we've got two big Nintendo series coming next year that could also be launch titles depending on when the console comes out. And that's just what we know of, it's already been said that Nintendo likes to hold onto games until the right time. To put it simply people expecting Nintendo to fail won't be getting it this time.
Switch success = Iwata 🙏🏽
THANK YOU, this is the only video I've ever seen on UA-cam where someone doesn't pronounce Gunpei Yokoi's name as GUNpei like gun/pistol!
this approach feels much better now than it did then.
I gotta say i was completely fed up with how obsolete Wii was in 2011, with its blurry VGA resolutions and outdated graphics. Sold mine and bought a PS3 slim and never looked back.
Switch today, even if even older than Wii was back then, compares much better. The graphics are beautiful on their own and still sometimes impressive. Games are still coming up in big quantities and are very good for most of the time, a completely different situation from Wii, which received a ton of shovelware and little else from 3rd parties.
That horizon of diminishing returns that Iwata spoke of is much more real today than it was back then. The difference in a top-tier Switch game versus a top-tier PS4 game is a smaller gap than Wii to PS3. And if we’re talking too-tier PS5 game, they’re now so expensive and require such a high level of graphical polish that developers aren’t able to put out as many games as they used to in the past. This is why Nintendo is consistently releasing games when Sony isn’t.
Great video! Iwata was truly one of a kind, a very special man. I recommend reading 'Iwata Asks', if anyone's interested in him.
Happy 4th to the Good Vibes Gaming crew!
Thank you! Happy 4th to you!
Fantastic video, I would love to see more like this
Why do most video’s talking about this subject ignore Nintendo’s past handhelds? Gameboy, DS, 3DS: The switch is also a succesor to those. They always sold pretty Well, and I’m curious to how all sales of home consoles and handhelds and production costs of their games hold up to the switch. Nintendo made a Huge Graphical step when you look at the switch compared in to the 3DS. All teams who used to work on 3DS games are suddenly making HD games.
Great video, Steve! Keep it up!
Thanks!
Wii U gamepad is a brother of Nintendo Switch Controller
There have been rumors of a switch attach console, but ps5 and seriesx games sales don't seem high enough to push switch attach forward. We could go a decade with mortal kombat 1 like ports for switch.
A lot of the switch's popularity comes from the fact that it's a handheld. A successor to the 3ds.
I personally have bought more games for the Switch than for any other console before, just with physical games. I can count 40 games there, and have bought some (not a lot) more digitally, between indies and multiplayer-focused and bite-sized games. And that's without talking about Limited Editions: I have the full Xenoblade trilogy as special edition, but also FE Three Houses, Astral Chain (that was a certified summer), Sakuna and SMTV.
Nintendo is special and unique. It takes old hardware slightly upgrades them selling at max or just above the regular price. Unlike less gamer consoles, needing to be optimized with better size, ram, cpu, graphics. The resalting implementations ending with them selling it at a lower cost.
Switch: “It’s not just more power” Its their “Innovation” to “Core success” in “Expanding out” truly "experimental"
Before you comment, do you need point out something incorrect or YOU NEED TO DEFEND Nintendo? 🤔
I genuinely miss Iwata ❤
nice vid, stevey boy
The main reason why I'm sticking with Nintendo, despite the issues they have right now with online and retro games and crap. Their consoles are always so different, and they focus less on graphics and power. (also making the price cheaper)
Wii U might've been a "failure" but I still enjoyed that thing especially at launch when Monster Hunter 3U around that time. (I forget when since it wasn't a launch title, lol)
I don't fully understand the complaint about retro games. The subscription they've got now is pretty good value, and they're releasing remasters for games from the consoles that aren't supported on NSO.
@@amadeus.7436such a good value for games you already own. Sooooo goooood
@@amadeus.7436 NSO is terrific, there’s literally hundreds of games to play that makes it worth it.
@@amadeus.7436 I love the value one gets out of the subscription as well, and the fact that all those games are available has had me trying some I'd never have tried otherwise. I think the main complaint from some is that you don't anymore have a way to straight up buy the games such that you could play them without a subscription, while on previous consoles you could. I feel as though both options should be available.
@@freuner-merris I get that, but then people would complain that they have to pay for 30 year old games. We know Nintendo wouldn't sell many of them to us for like 5$. People are getting the most bang for their buck this way.
I'd instead like to see that as some sort of incentive to keep subscribing. If you've been subscribed for a certain amount of time you get to pick a certain number of games from console x and y to keep for forever. Realistically people are only going to want to keep a handful anyway if they stop subscribing.
Thank you Mr Iwata
It's going to be so strange next generation. The switch is our last connection to iwata 😢
i'm really interested to see where Nintendo will go with the console after the Switch 2, because the Switch was a healthy niche & the Switch 2 only needs to be Switch but can run the New third party games & have controllers that don't break
Seriously great little video 👏
Glad you liked it!
Nintendo’s 20 year plan? Metroid Prime 5 🤞
i feel like the switch 2 has an even better chance of success because a portable and docked console is so versatile and if it’s as powerful as a ps4 pro there would essentially be no reason to buy another console, especially considering that this current gen hasn’t been very impressive
i have ended up on yokoi's wikipedia like 5 times for different reasons
i don’t know this steve bloke but i’d love for him to stay on the channel, great writing and research
I implore anyone reading this to rent or buy "Iwata Asks" :)
What you said about the Wii's attach rate is not true. The Wii sold 101 million units, and over 900 million games. That's an average of 9 games per system.
Everyone gloats about the ps2 and it's library. The 154 million ps2s sold 1.5 billion games. That's 10 games per.
How is that any different?
Interesting that Satoru Iwata believed graphics peaked with the Gamecube. I often hear people saying graphics peaked with the PS4
Even now people complain about Nintendo's consoles not being onpar with the other two, but fail to realize why they do it and why it works. As early as the Gameboy other companies released more powerful handhelds but got crushed by Nintendo's, because it was cheaper and because it was'nt as powerful it had a longer battery life. No matter how powerful a console is it means nothing if your making it hard for people to buy. This is also why even with new more powerful handheld's coming out the Switch is doing better, because it's alot more accessible for people. Making the change to this direction was the smartest thing Nintendo's ever done.
They've also learned from their mistakes, the biggest one I'd say is how they handle third parties. Even going into their next console their making a good effort to make game development on it easy for third parties. To the point many of those companies are really excited for Switch 2.
That was a nice video ❤
This was an interesting video.
Although, at the conclusion statement about the Switch being the fruition of a patient strategy made me think of something else...
The long con.
Was Nintendo sticking to established strengths and innovation over visually impressive features because that's how they perceived the future of gaming...
Or were they consistently disappointing in areas others were impressing so when they finally decide to catch up; we all automatically are impressed?
That's just a thought experiment.
For the record; I love my Switch, and even though felt personally insulted by the mistreatment of the Wii U being an early adopter of that console... I have had a consistent adoration for Nintendo products.
I kind of feel like the successor to the Switch can only be somewhat of a disappointment, because I’m not sure there is anywhere left to go after the Switch, other than just doing it again with “better” hardware 🤷♂️ obviously I hope I’m wrong though.
That's probably the mindset people had literally everytime a new generation of console happens
@@star-rock6466 maybe 🤷♂️ I mean if I could come up with some sort of genius new style of gameplay for the Switch’s successor to make use of I suppose I would be working for Nintendo…like I said, I really hope I’m wrong, but the Switch was pretty much a perfect console (apart from the stick drift 🙃) and I’m just not sure if they can repeat that kind of success.
No there's plenty more they can do to improve on the idea.
@@ACameronUK "what could they possibly do next????" like the other guy above said, everybody asks this every single time and its always the same song and dance over and over again. dumb question
@@yn8789 personally, I’d like to see VR integrated into an affordable console 🤷♂️ I think it could be really good fun but I don’t know how financially feasible it is. Perhaps you’re right and it’s just my opinion, but I’m not excited about the idea of another Switch with higher resolution etc.
It’s not about the Nintendo knowing that they couldn’t compete with Sony and Microsoft. It’s because Nintendo so what would be happening? 20 years from now? They knew chasing graphics and power were pointless.😊
This is why it's so hard for me to predict Nintendo's future. How do you move forward from this? The Switch has everything I want from a console, apart from the power to run games at 60fps. You can make a Switch 2 more powerful, but I am sure that's not enough for Nintendo. They need a new gimmick, and for the life of me I can't even begin to imagine what that's gonna be in the next system.
Both the Wii and Switch are amazing, I also love the other Nintendo consoles as well (except Virtual Boy).
I also support Playstation and Xbox consoles myself
Now that they've accomplished this vision, the question is what's next?
What is the song in the credit of the video. It sounds so familiar ahah.
What's the music playing at the beginning of the video after the title card?
Do you have any data that supports the idea that the Wii had a worse attach rate than the PS3 and X360 or is it just something you _feel_ is true? Because all the numbers I've seen says differently.
Happy Independence Day everyone 🇺🇸
That’s amazing! Happy 4th of July!
Wii U launched in 2012, not 2013
syug yeh
What music was that in the outro?
As someone who lives in Japan, I just want to say you did way better than I expected with the pronunciation of 枯れた技術の水平思考, Steve!!
(Though 水平 is pronounced suihei, not suiheki)
Thanks! I wasn’t sure on the kanji and I was super tired reading it!
Idk about Wii controller, lemme get that Good Vibes Gaming controller.
Tbh I feel like in the long run I'll hold onto my Wii longer then my switch(mainly because the switch 2 will be infinitely better)
What is the outro song?
8:09 can anyone tell me what game this is? It looks cool.
Horizon Chase Turbo
The GameCube was awesome imo
2:45 FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS
five hundred and ninety nine us dollars
Correction: The xbox 360 and the ps3 TRIES to be Full HD consoles. Most of the time they only manage 900p on a good day
Doesn’t 720p count as hd?
@@minecrafter3448 It did. Idk if that's still the case, UA-cam certainly stopped recognizing it as HD a few years ago.
720p is HD, 1080p is Full HD. The 360 and PS3 were definitely HD consoles. Although I understand that some games went below 720p. And of course, there were tonnes of games that had framerate issues too, so it wasn't like every top game was a solid 720p at 30fps.
@@legoboy7107I hate it when people just change their minds on something like this.
@@benmalsky9834 That's true.
i slightly disagree with the Wii U failing bc it wasn't powerful enough or novel enough. Gamecube and N64 sold ~20 and ~30 million units respectively before the massive sales of Wii, and yet the Wii U sold _even fewer_ than that (~13M units) especially after Nintendo had properly established their IPs across the Wii and the handheld devices. And the Wii U _did_ have a novel way of interacting between screens (though not as novel as the Wii) and introduced the off-TV play (the portable aspect). The Wii U failed most probably bc of poor marketing and consumer confusion. It's essentially a Switch with limited range, so in theory it should've been as successful. Great video though, beautifully put together 😇
A bit of a basic video, but still enjoyable
Wii had a tie ratio of 9. PS3 had one of 8.6, I believe. So I think you are wrong and I'd look into your claims more that people just bought it solely to play Wii Sports more, which actually came with the console so would probably not even be factored in software sales.
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It was ahead of xbox gc 20 million polygons in game at 60fps xbox peaked at 12 million and assub 30fps historical fact... play any gc game on a emulator in hd vs xbox its clear as day who was the no 1 power wise... ww twilight princess re4 metroid prime 1 2 all generation leads
I just want to drop in amd say i cant take anything nintendo says serious and neither should you. For 30 years weve seen and heard through testimony of how much their plans and projects flip on a dime due to world trends,hierarchical say or etc etc. They are a company that moves with the tide and their plans are just thumbnails that will likely always end up scrapped or heavily altered .. from historic reputation.
If xbox 360 wasnt easy to brick it would be much better heck heck and neck to Nintendo.
I think the best way to describe is thus; The Wii was a gimmick, whereas the Switch is an *experience* .
And there's quite a big difference between the two.
Wii was an experience too. It’s just that many games failed to take advantage of it. Wii sports resort and sin and punishment successor of the skies (star successor in the US) are examples of games that actually felt like the next big step for those types of games. They remain timeless since no modern equivalent matches up to them.
Lots of wii games did awesome things with the control setup. It's just that casual gamers didn't care because they didn't want to play serious video games and core games didn't care because they didn't want motion controls
6:08 this Is actually not true, for what Is known the Wii attach ratio Is actually higher than the PS3 and 360, with 9 games per console vs 8, most people tended to buy multiple games for their Wiis, Is just that in most cases it was mostly just casual games while most traditional experiences sold just a decently better than the GameCube in most cases but not much more than that.
Nintendo should bring basck the DS family of systems.
Dedicated handhelds (dedicated as in making software specifically for them) are sadly a dead market now. Why develop two libraries of games when you can make one?
Mark my words: Switch 2 will not be successful as the Switch.
And this is coming from an avid Switch owner.
Nintendo's alternative console releases have always been a failure.
Wii - WiiU
DS - 3DS
N64 - Gamecube
I wouldn't call the 3DS a failure at ALL. It lived a very long life, had a lot of games and sold a lot of software. It's hard to compete with the DS in sales but it still ended up selling really well considering it was released into a dying market.
@@samcandles But, the launch was so bad, that they had to reduce the 3DS price from $250 to $170. And that price cut helped recover a lot of those lost sales.
@@AeyGee The launch doesn't really matter if it ended up doing well by the end. It could've done a lot better from the start sure but it wasn't a failure at the end of the day. Just look at how they treated the 3DS VS the wii u when the switch came out
@AeyGee that's like saying the ps3 was a failure because it had a rocky launch, 2-3 years really
Wii U flopped because of poor marketing, blue ocean approach didn't work with the gamepad, lack of third party support, first party games mainly appealed to diehard Nintendo fans and casuals weren't interested in it.
3DS sold less due to the rise of mobile gaming, but the botched launch in 2011 didn't help either.
GameCube sold less due to the PS2 curb stomping it and the mainstream audience dismissed it for being "kiddy". Not helping that the mini DVD discs could hold only up to 1.5 GB. Not something that third parties are willing to do as that affects a lot of things where the PS2 can hold much more.
All the reasons above will likely not apply to the Switch successor and no one seems to want point out the reasons behind it either. Nintendo has maintained a healthy audience with the Switch, so all the Switch successor needs is a healthy selection of games ready just like in 2017.
dude you should have just clipped in Iwatas quote instead of reading it
I really hated Wii. Skipped both wii and wii u. Switch at 2019 brought me back. I think switch is as good as ps2. Then I bought 2nd had wii u around 2021. They were dirt cheap. I am glad I haven't invested that piece of crap back in the day. People are talking about greatness of virtual console but it is way overprice.
8:08 ...not entirely true... outside of Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, etc.. there were some other big first-party sellers on Wii such as both Mario Kart Wii & New Super Mario Bros which were both 30+ million sellers... and Super Smash Bros Brawl and Galaxy 1 being 10+ mil sellers... but sure.. the Switch took these franchises and then some to the stratosphere!
@@abjames3098 Exactly
pretty much every game that sold well on the wii was either from a small set of specific sasual/party games or Mario. it still didn't sell many games outside of those mainstays
@@samcandles But what about Zelda or Kirby, those always sell well.
@@benmalsky9834 none of them reached 10 mil... just under 8 mil for Twilight Princess on Wii but if you combine the GameCube release it's over 10 mil i believe... Kirby has always been in the 3-5 mil range... Forgotten Land on Switch broke that streak though
@@samcandles yeah and it's crazy to think animal crossing city folk only did just under 5 mil on Wii now here we are a few gens later and have a 45 mil seller Animal Crossing game on Switch, although COVID did boost sales for that game... but Smash Bros even on Wii did 13ish million now it's a 30 mil seller on Switch, Super Mario Galaxy did 12.5 mil on Wii and Odyssey did 28 mil on Switch... the numbers have just skyrocketed on Switch for said IP, Zelda is another example...
GameCube just failed with Normies, because normies wanted a DVD Player and GCN didn't had it... plus, GCN was the hardest to be pirated, that is all.
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Bring back dual screens, that's all i really want from switch 2. So many games died or changed on a fundamental level because they left the 3ds behind. Just thinking about it i probably spent more time observing the map in the original splatoon than in splatoon 2 and 3 combined. So many flanks i feel i could have avoided if i could notice in the corner of my eye them inking a trail on the map to get me.
No idea where the myth of Wii having a low software attachment rate comes from. Using math with the source that you even showed in this very video, the Wii has an attachmemt rate of 9.07 games sold per console, while the Switch has 8.74 sold per console. The Switch is still good but its actually lower than the Wii.