@@joshuabarqueesimeth4530Bro imagine if you made a invention that could change the whole humanity life quality (in the video he didn’t) and someone say your invention is trash and is not good and said you should get back to work in the cotton field again. How would you feel?
Then the Wikipedia article cites the news article that just copied from Wikipedia, and the so-called strength of the evidence becomes stronger! I call this 'factoid laundering' and Wikipedia is absolutely chock full of it. A completely unsourced claim can _become sourced_ by citing people uncritically parroting the unsourced claim. It's my strong belief that Wikipedia as it exists today is not fit for purpose and it's done an immeasurable amount of harm to the state of information - the same kind of harm AI is doing now, but with AI it's happening more obviously and quickly than it's been happening on Wikipedia for the last 15 years.
Teachers say not to use Wikipedia because, by its very nature, there is a more primary source. Wikipedia has to source all of its information. Before Wikipedia, you were still not allowed to use regular encyclopedias for the same reason. The fact that it’s easily manipulated is a secondary, though also important issue.
The fact that it's influence extended deep into media, education, government and was even extrapolated upon by the outside, until a 15 year old just looked at the photo 10 years later is unfathomably hilarious.
It's amazing tbh, but yeah! It kind of also makes sense. A Toaster is something nobody (except if you like to watch Technology Connections) would be so darn interested in, even the ones wanting to study the technicals of it probably don't care so much about its history.
Hey, I'm Adam the 15 yro from the story, and I'm gonna be honest im pretty dumb but like I took photography at the time and it helped me to be able to tell if something is photoshopped or not
@@NicCrimson its weird though because wikipedia editors are quite vigilant and want to make sure notjing on their platform is vandalism and yet this flew by for 14 years, crazy
I'm Adam from the story, never think i'd end up in one of your videos, it was crazy i didnt realise how deep this went since multiple history books noted him as the inventor and I weirdly had something to do with that
I heard something more like this just yesterday, although that telling ommited your part completely. The small discrepancies speak to a greater trith. What an awesome little slice of history. @piracyparty
Hey, I'm Adam from the video and I didnt actually know the guy that made it was fake just the picture, I take Photography so I noticed that it was photoshopped.
I love that they didn't even commit to the bit beyond to the initial two edits. They kinda just let it happen. Makes it 10 times better imo. Also I was expecting that at the end of the video, they'd go "None of this ever happened, don't believe what you see on the internet"
I expected him to mention the real name of the inevnto- 9:39 oh here we are haha. I got a different answer when googling though. "Bread-Toaster", patented 18 October 1921 by Charles Strite. In 1913, Lloyd Groff Copeman and his wife Hazel Berger Copeman applied for various toaster patents, and in that same year, the Copeman Electric Stove Company introduced a toaster with an automatic bread turner.
That's the secret... if you keep messing with it, it looks more suspicious. I know of an entirely fake claim inserted into Wikipedia well over a decade ago, and I check to see if it's still there every few years. I'm always stunned that no one has challenged it and gone on to find that there is zero support for it. It certainly hasn't blown up anything like this toaster claim, though.
@@RaikoTechnologies tell that to the hundreds of thousands of boomers & 3rd world people saying "amen" on pictures of shrimp Jesus. You & me might be able to tell at a glance, but there's a significant number of people who'll believe AI because of their lack of education, tech literacy, etc.
This reminds me of when UFO pranksters methodically document and explain how they did a hoax but that rarely gets seen as much as the hoax and conspiracy theorist will generally think the government got to them
chatgpt tells me: Alan MacMasters is often credited with inventing the first electric toaster in 1893. However, his version was not commercially successful and had limitations, such as being prone to electrical fires. The more practical and widely used toasters came later, thanks to the contributions of Albert Marsh and Charles Strite.
This has happened a ton and still happens today. My favorite no longer "factual" claim was spawned about the '90s cartoon Street Sharks. A creative kid became an editor for a tv site that many other sites farmed data from. He created his own episode descriptions, invented seasons of the show, and created a female street shark named Roxie. Somehow after years of wiki using his false info, people started posting online claiming they remembered Roxie and how she was shining female character in that era. In 2016 he came clean in an article and people fact checked everything. In present day, the article on kiwifarms is hilariously inaccurate. Insanely circular reporting with little to no facts. But the editors like it that way
the fact that they used the articles as sources to support the lie even more is astounding. i absolutely love this prank but i'm also a little bit frightened by it.
The best troll would have been if this video was a hoax. That the hoax article never existed, and shows you the actual practical importance of what the video is teaching.
Well I mean he did give us the wrong inventor of the toaster at the end of the video, so he's teaching that we should all still look for ourselves :p The name Shailor does not appear on the English page of the toaster on wikipedia apart from a footnote.
I was stoned a few years ago and wrote a fake review in a petrol station in the middle of nowhere in Papua new Guinea because it had no reviews. And since the pétrole station got bombarded with reviews, including some nasty ones. All i said was "5 out of 5, would pump gas here again" lol Now according to google i am a reliable reviewer
Someone posted a photo of a stray cat some where on Crete to Google Maps, it also now has a huge number of reviews…some of which were accompanied by photos which clearly showed they were not reviewing the same cat. So do your own research, and don’t trust the internet when it comes to strange cats. Rare Earth did a good video about it.
Yeah it's quite easy to "climb" Google Maps' reviews(+achievements whatever) I am in the top 10% of my country (of reviewers) and I've only done like 25 reviews.... Throughout YEARS
Shailor invented and patented a one-sided toaster design where you had to manually flip as the very first toaster version. Strike improved it later by making it 2 sided, with a timer and the toast jumping up. According to Wikipedia lol.
Strailor worked for General Electric when he invented the electronic toaster, but his did not pop up. Ten years later, Charles Strite invented the pop up toaster...
This sadly also shows how poor the quality of today`s journalism is, whereby the focus is way too much on getting a hitpiece rather than getting an accurate description of event.
It's "filler" to pad out the website, something that requires the minimum of research and can be typed up and edited in less than an hour. Lots of tabloids do the same thing.
AI was writing online news articles since as early as 2009. A friend of mine worked for the telegraph in london as a data entry clerk, he had to proof read what the AI spat out and then publish online.
Tested ChatGPT 4o on that: "Alan MacMasters is often credited with inventing the first electric toaster. According to some sources, MacMasters, a Scottish scientist, created the first toaster around 1893. His design, known as the "Eclipse," used iron wires to toast bread, but it had significant issues such as being prone to catching fire and the iron wires corroding quickly. While MacMasters' invention was an important step in the development of electric toasters, it was not as practical or commercially successful as later designs. The advancements by Albert Marsh and the introduction of the more reliable and marketable D-12 toaster by General Electric were crucial in making the electric toaster a common household appliance. Thus, while MacMasters' contributions are recognized, the modern electric toaster owes much to the subsequent developments by other inventors and engineers."
Remember, this was 2 young adults that were able to make people believe for 10 YEARS the inverter of the toaster was Macmasters. Now with that context imagine what governments and news stations are capable of.
Actually less, because of the amount of people involved. The probability of a secret becoming not so much of a secret anymore rises exponentially with the number of people who know about it.
@@lonestarr1490 England convinced everyone that the Lusitania wasn't carrying ammunition for WW1 (until like 2015 when they admitted that it actually was carrying ammunition). Japan convinced thousands of families to throw their kids and themselves off cliffs instead of accepting the United State's aid in WW2. Russia convinced everyone that they had one of the strongest and modern armies in the world. Then the invasion of Ukraine completely shows otherwise. There's a few examples for yah, you can find plenty more online.
I think this cycle will continue because when you look up “who is the inventor of the electric toaster?” The openAI auto response says that it is Alan Macmasters with no indication that it is false info
The channel is actually a cooperation between "Simplicissimus" and "Hoog", the video originally came out in German over a year ago, so it's mostly translation. But yeah, their quality is amazing.
Alex from French Guy Cooking (channel now just called Alex) did a whole Mother Sauces series. Something felt wrong so he had to go into the archives, getting special permission to do so. He ended up uncovering a mistake passed down from generations. People like him who can delve way back into the past and uncover these entrenched mistakes are unsung hero’s!
yes and no like there has been mistakes down but I would still consider hollandaise as a mother sauce since it's not really done with a base of any other sauce.....even if traditionally it wasn't one. Most other sauces otherwise are pretty much derived off these basics including sauces that are made off of the base of a hollandaise.
I've noticed mispronunciations or misspellings in quite a few videos on big channels the past while. I think they do it to increase engagement of people pointing it out. No way this guy doesn't know how to say it right
@@MarshaIIs It's a lie, because that's not how Jeopardy Q's are formatted. Questions are given in the form of a description, and the answer starts with Who is or What is.
This is what google ai says lol: Alan MacMasters invented the first electric toaster in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1893, but the Pacific Electric Heating Company claims paternity of the electric toaster with its “Hotpoint” toaster in 1905. The first model to become popular and commercially successful was the General Electric toaster, patented by Frank Shailor in 1909 and called D-12
@@flyingsquirrel2620that’s kinda funny how the IA can say the right thing to some, but tell lies to others For me, Gemini says the toaster was invented by Alan, and Frank just perfected it
“Was Alan MacMasters the inventor of the toaster ?” Gemini : I can't help with responses on elections and political figures right now. I'm trained to be as accurate as possible but I can make mistakes sometimes. While I work on improving how I can discuss elections and politics, you can try Google Search.
@@piracyparty In theory the students could have requested royalties, because the bank used their photo/likeness for the bank notes, if it had happened.
fern, just an idea for the video to show us some behind the scenes of your content creation. Always beautiful graphics, interesting stories, engaging presentation and more. Love that! 🔥
@@saiyeedbilalalhakim6506 This channel is a collaboration between two channels of which one is a German channel called Simplicissimus. The guys in Simplicissimus have a secondary German channel where they talk about less important stuff and comment in their previous videos etc. called 2 Bored Guys.
This reminds of that video about the Welsh (might be wrong) king that never existed from Cambrian Chronicles. He uncovered centuries old misinformation. The title of the video is “Wikipedia’s King who Doesn’t Exist” - a very interesting watch.
FYI: "Bread-Toaster", patented 18 October 1921 by Charles Strite. In 1913, Lloyd Groff Copeman and his wife Hazel Berger Copeman applied for various toaster patents, and in that same year, the Copeman Electric Stove Company introduced a toaster with an automatic bread turner.
Chatgpt half the time likes to respond the toaster was invented by Albert Marsh 1905, the other half it responds the first electric toaster came from "Alan Macmasters" in 1893. This hoax can most likely be a case study on flawed data.
@MyRegardsToTheDodo Unlike with the Alan MacMasters article, the sources crediting Charles Strite are reliable. There's plenty of sources both on and off Wikipedia to confirm this.
I just googled, who invented the toaster, it credited 3 people, and the first name was Alan Macmasters, in Edinburgh Scotland in the year 1883. That's great...
According to ChatGBT: "The electric toaster was invented by a Scottish scientist named Alan MacMasters in 1893. MacMasters' design was one of the earliest electric toasters and helped pave the way for the modern kitchen appliance we know today."
ChatGPT model 4o mini, no set ups, no intructs, Question: Who invented the toaster? "The invention of the toaster is credited to George Schneider and Albert E. Evers, who developed the first electric toaster in 1909. However, it was actually the Toastmaster, created by the American inventor Frank Shailor in 1921, that became popular and widely used. The Toastmaster was one of the first toasters to automatically pop up the toast when it was done, a feature that greatly improved convenience and efficiency." Question: Who invented the toaster? "The electric toaster, as we know it, was invented by George Schneider and Albert M. C. of the Toastmaster Company in the early 20th century. However, the first commercially successful electric toaster was the Toastmaster, which was introduced in 1921. Earlier attempts at toasting bread were made by other inventors, including George Schneider and Albert M. C., but these were not as practical or successful. The concept of toasting bread predates electric toasters, with manual toasters and toasting forks being used long before the advent of electricity." Question: Who invented the toaster? "The first electric toaster was invented by George Schneider and Albert E. Johnson in 1921. Their design, called the "Toastmaster," was the first to use an automatic pop-up mechanism, which made toasting bread more convenient. Prior to this, toasters were mostly simple devices that required manual intervention." Question: Who invented the toaster? "The invention of the toaster is attributed to several inventors over time, but the most notable early design was by George Schneider and Albert E. Goss, who created a model called the "Electric Toaster" in 1909. This design led to the creation of the first commercially successful electric toaster, known as the Toastmaster, invented by Albert E. Goss in 1921. However, before these developments, there were other forms of toasting devices, such as the "bread toaster" patent by George Schneider in 1909, which laid the groundwork for the electric toaster as we know it today." Question: Did Alan MacMasters invent the toaster? "Alan MacMasters is often credited with inventing the first electric toaster, but his invention was a bit different from modern toasters. In 1893, MacMasters, a Scottish inventor, created a device called the "Toaster," which was designed to toast bread. However, it had some limitations and was not very successful commercially. The toaster as we know it today evolved through the contributions of several inventors. One key figure was George Schneider, who made improvements to MacMasters’ design. Another significant advancement came from Albert E. E. D. and Carl E. Schneider, who developed the first commercially successful electric toaster called the “Toastmaster” in 1921. So while MacMasters played an important role in the early development of the toaster, it was a collaborative effort over time that led to the modern version." Continuation of 'Did Alan MacMasters invent the toaster?': Can you cite some sources where you found this information about Alan MacMasters? "Certainly! Information about Alan MacMasters and his contributions to the invention of the toaster can be found in various historical and technological references. Here are a few sources you might find useful: "Toaster: The Story of the World's Most Popular Kitchen Appliance" by Mark McElroy - This book provides a detailed history of the toaster, including the contributions of early inventors like Alan MacMasters. "The History of the Toaster: The Invention and Evolution of a Kitchen Classic" by Jennifer L. Berman - This source offers a comprehensive look at the development of the toaster, including MacMasters' early work. Encyclopedia Britannica - The encyclopedia often provides historical insights into various inventions and their inventors, including MacMasters' role in the early development of the toaster. The Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of American History - The museum’s archives and online resources often include information about the evolution of household appliances like toasters. These sources should offer a good overview of MacMasters' contributions and the development of the toaster."
To be fair to Wikipedia, privately compiled encyclopaedias like Brittanica aren't immune from mistakes or misinformation, and they often persist for longer. So you can't really rely on those either.
Aside from everything else, why on earth was everyone so interested in the inventor of the toaster?? Like, that's such a niche and relatively unimportant thing to be so interested and appreciative of.
Reminds me of 19th-early 20th century US journalist/critic HL Mencken; who made up a hoax about a US President and a bathtub, that inadvertently spread through newspapers, almanacs, and history books for decades despite his later efforts to debunk it.
"Our boyfriends haven't replied to our texts for a while. I hope they're not cheating on us with others." What the boyfriends in question have been up to:
Even today of you Google "Who invented the electric toaster" you get: Alan MacMasters In 1893, MacMasters, a Scottish inventor, created the first electric toaster using iron wires that heated up when an electric current passed through them. However, the toaster was not well-received by consumers because the wires often melted and started fires.
This video shows how a harmless prank can escalate and create widespread misinformation. It also serves as a reminder of the importance of source verification.
"Alan McMasters is credited with inventing the electric toaster in the late 19th century. He was a Scottish scientist and engineer who created the first known version of an electric toaster in 1893. His invention, however, was not widely successful due to the limitations of materials and technology at the time. The early electric toasters were not very efficient and posed significant fire hazards. McMasters' work laid the foundation for future innovations in electric toasting technology. It wasn't until later, with advancements in materials and electrical engineering, that the electric toaster became a common household appliance." - ChatGPT 4o
"Wikipedia stills is a pretty reliable and helpful source on information " - Huge statement there. I guess you can say that as long as the topic at hand can be completely detached from any sort of ideological bias. Like a toaster inventor
How come modern Alan MacMasters speaks like he comes from 1893 then? I propose he's a time traveler and inventor of the electric toaster, using the hoax as a cover
@@SneakyRobinX Mângmázà Áriēn (English: Alan MacMasters) was a Scottish-born inventor who contributed to the overthrow of European hegemony and the opium trade through his invention of the electric toaster. Máo Zédōng famously championed the electric toaster as a means of liberation for the proletariat, allowing them to more easily prepare food in a push to increase productivity.
Sorry for mispronouncing the word “tear”. We meant tear as in tearing a photo 🫣
thanks. that brought a tear to my eye.
made me tear my ears out 😢
English is an awful language
That was a teariffic moment.
It's OK 👍 ❤❤❤
"She was not holding appropriate respect for the power of the electric toaster" is brilliant
100 % justified
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it actually is though
respect for a toaster is crazy, thats like stubbing your toe on a table corner and you just say sorry to it.
@@joshuabarqueesimeth4530Bro imagine if you made a invention that could change the whole humanity life quality (in the video he didn’t) and someone say your invention is trash and is not good and said you should get back to work in the cotton field again. How would you feel?
It’s funny how teachers go “Don’t use wikipedia!” And then the news just use Wikipedia
And this proves why those news people should have listened to their own teachers, so perfectly! 😂
😂 true!
Those are the kids that didn't pay attention is school
Then the Wikipedia article cites the news article that just copied from Wikipedia, and the so-called strength of the evidence becomes stronger! I call this 'factoid laundering' and Wikipedia is absolutely chock full of it.
A completely unsourced claim can _become sourced_ by citing people uncritically parroting the unsourced claim.
It's my strong belief that Wikipedia as it exists today is not fit for purpose and it's done an immeasurable amount of harm to the state of information - the same kind of harm AI is doing now, but with AI it's happening more obviously and quickly than it's been happening on Wikipedia for the last 15 years.
Teachers say not to use Wikipedia because, by its very nature, there is a more primary source. Wikipedia has to source all of its information. Before Wikipedia, you were still not allowed to use regular encyclopedias for the same reason.
The fact that it’s easily manipulated is a secondary, though also important issue.
The idea of this random college kid getting onto the $50 note through pure trolling is the funniest thing ive heard in a long time.
£50 silly American!!!
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Thanks @@EEEEEEEE 😊
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The fact that Britain has no one better to put on their note!!
I just asked Siri who invented the toaster. She said Alan McMasters.
Well done, lads.
The fact that it's influence extended deep into media, education, government and was even extrapolated upon by the outside, until a 15 year old just looked at the photo 10 years later is unfathomably hilarious.
It's amazing tbh, but yeah! It kind of also makes sense. A Toaster is something nobody (except if you like to watch Technology Connections) would be so darn interested in, even the ones wanting to study the technicals of it probably don't care so much about its history.
Hey, I'm Adam the 15 yro from the story, and I'm gonna be honest im pretty dumb but like I took photography at the time and it helped me to be able to tell if something is photoshopped or not
@@piracyparty
..... somehow don't believe ya, but sure
@@piracyparty I'm sure some others noticed the picture as well, but didn't care about it at all.
@@NicCrimson its weird though because wikipedia editors are quite vigilant and want to make sure notjing on their platform is vandalism and yet this flew by for 14 years, crazy
I'm Adam from the story, never think i'd end up in one of your videos, it was crazy i didnt realise how deep this went since multiple history books noted him as the inventor and I weirdly had something to do with that
HAHA ur the real troller of the decade.
@@billyid eh, nah alan and alex deserve the title
i'm curious, how did you stumble across that article?
My hat is of to you chatgpt refers to macmaster when I ask about the Scottish inventor of the toaster
I heard something more like this just yesterday, although that telling ommited your part completely. The small discrepancies speak to a greater trith. What an awesome little slice of history. @piracyparty
Nothing is more wikipedia, than a list of hoaxes on wikipedia, also listing their time existing.
"National disasters of Wikipedia"
@@littlejack59 which nation?
Remember, use references found inside the Wikipedia article as sources instead of the article itself
@@ahriboy unless those references are articles that got their information from the article...
Scoreboard.
Alan sounds like a super villain when he talks, I love it. Can’t believe I just now subscribed after so many videos.
This is top tier trolling.
Agreed.
Also top tier trolling is not giving the correct name of the inventor at the end of the video, making the hoax go even deeper
Top “tear” trolling as per the narrators pronunciation 😂
Get it to 777
@@Rainbowstunting 9:15
The fact that an almost 10 year old hoax like this was found by a 15 year old is wild to think about.
Hey, I'm Adam from the video and I didnt actually know the guy that made it was fake just the picture, I take Photography so I noticed that it was photoshopped.
@@piracyparty Well done Adam!
"It's just a prank bro", the prank in question:
i must agree
Ah, l see you are a men of culture as well...
top 10 moment
You haven't even watched half the video yet
There is no question, duh
That was the smoothest transition into your sponsor ad I have seen. It took me a few seconds to realize it was a promo. Well done.
I love that they didn't even commit to the bit beyond to the initial two edits. They kinda just let it happen. Makes it 10 times better imo.
Also I was expecting that at the end of the video, they'd go "None of this ever happened, don't believe what you see on the internet"
I expected him to mention the real name of the inevnto- 9:39 oh here we are haha. I got a different answer when googling though.
"Bread-Toaster", patented 18 October 1921 by Charles Strite. In 1913, Lloyd Groff Copeman and his wife Hazel Berger Copeman applied for various toaster patents, and in that same year, the Copeman Electric Stove Company introduced a toaster with an automatic bread turner.
That's the secret... if you keep messing with it, it looks more suspicious. I know of an entirely fake claim inserted into Wikipedia well over a decade ago, and I check to see if it's still there every few years. I'm always stunned that no one has challenged it and gone on to find that there is zero support for it. It certainly hasn't blown up anything like this toaster claim, though.
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😂 just shows u the level of. " research " these supposed trusted sources put into their articles. Smh...
What an absolutly crazy story. Unsurprisingly, ChatGPT still thinks the ineventor of the toaster is McMasters 😂😂😂
If only all online misinformation is as harmless as this. Now we even have machines telling us to add glue to pizza
Daily rock consumption
Smoking during pregnency
Cockroaches living in...[REDACTED BY UA-cam]
How else will you keep the toppings on?
do not believe ai, it is easy really
@@RaikoTechnologies tell that to the hundreds of thousands of boomers & 3rd world people saying "amen" on pictures of shrimp Jesus. You & me might be able to tell at a glance, but there's a significant number of people who'll believe AI because of their lack of education, tech literacy, etc.
@@RaikoTechnologiesAI told me you get hella 🐱
This reminds me of when UFO pranksters methodically document and explain how they did a hoax but that rarely gets seen as much as the hoax and conspiracy theorist will generally think the government got to them
10/10 writing for that last line, "At least, that's what it says on Wikipedia."
couldve been followed with "for now"
Maybe the new one is still not real and is actually toaster troll 2.0 🤔
“At least, that’s what it says on Wikipedia”
Brilliant 👌🏻
Just checked and yes chat gpt still thinks that Alan McMasters invented the toaster in 1893 😂
my ChatGPT says otherwise
Google's AI also says McMasters 😂
Copilot on Bing also still says McMasters
chatgpt tells me: Alan MacMasters is often credited with inventing the first electric toaster in 1893. However, his version was not commercially successful and had limitations, such as being prone to electrical fires. The more practical and widely used toasters came later, thanks to the contributions of Albert Marsh and Charles Strite.
Just checked (in French) and indeed McMasters is still the inventor according to chatgpt 4o!
This has happened a ton and still happens today.
My favorite no longer "factual" claim was spawned about the '90s cartoon Street Sharks. A creative kid became an editor for a tv site that many other sites farmed data from. He created his own episode descriptions, invented seasons of the show, and created a female street shark named Roxie. Somehow after years of wiki using his false info, people started posting online claiming they remembered Roxie and how she was shining female character in that era. In 2016 he came clean in an article and people fact checked everything.
In present day, the article on kiwifarms is hilariously inaccurate. Insanely circular reporting with little to no facts. But the editors like it that way
Gamergate too
the fact that they used the articles as sources to support the lie even more is astounding. i absolutely love this prank but i'm also a little bit frightened by it.
The best troll would have been if this video was a hoax. That the hoax article never existed, and shows you the actual practical importance of what the video is teaching.
Well I mean he did give us the wrong inventor of the toaster at the end of the video, so he's teaching that we should all still look for ourselves :p The name Shailor does not appear on the English page of the toaster on wikipedia apart from a footnote.
@@Rainbowstunting it says it was actually Charles Strite but you never know.
@@stanleypines3626 I don’t think it was. The Wikipedia article and sources are very sketchy.
I do believe the talking is AI….
Very happy that this is pretty harmless unlike some of the other stuff this amazing channel has to offer
I was stoned a few years ago and wrote a fake review in a petrol station in the middle of nowhere in Papua new Guinea because it had no reviews. And since the pétrole station got bombarded with reviews, including some nasty ones. All i said was "5 out of 5, would pump gas here again" lol
Now according to google i am a reliable reviewer
eyy you're practically on the board of trustees
hahahahaha that's bloody hilarious. I imagine the Papuan owner of the gas station reading the review, "who the heck is this guy?"
Someone posted a photo of a stray cat some where on Crete to Google Maps, it also now has a huge number of reviews…some of which were accompanied by photos which clearly showed they were not reviewing the same cat. So do your own research, and don’t trust the internet when it comes to strange cats.
Rare Earth did a good video about it.
Yeah it's quite easy to "climb" Google Maps' reviews(+achievements whatever)
I am in the top 10% of my country (of reviewers) and I've only done like 25 reviews.... Throughout YEARS
@@Mary1337 your reviews are probably being boosted to anyone that is googling places in your region 😂"our only reviewer loves this place!"
9:37 The funniest part of this story is that this is also wrong, and has since been changed on the article itself
lmaoo yep
@@the_whisperer6177 😂 I had to check myself and yup, it was Charles Strite, American but from Minnesota
Shailor invented and patented a one-sided toaster design where you had to manually flip as the very first toaster version. Strike improved it later by making it 2 sided, with a timer and the toast jumping up. According to Wikipedia lol.
Strailor worked for General Electric when he invented the electronic toaster, but his did not pop up. Ten years later, Charles Strite invented the pop up toaster...
This sadly also shows how poor the quality of today`s journalism is, whereby the focus is way too much on getting a hitpiece rather than getting an accurate description of event.
It's "filler" to pad out the website, something that requires the minimum of research and can be typed up and edited in less than an hour. Lots of tabloids do the same thing.
And poor quality schooling. Teachers built entire projects based on an obvious lie. But sure they should get paid more lol
@@danielwatson5595 If teachers got paid more, smarter people would aspire to teach lol
Not only getting a hit piece, but cause panic and divide society.
AI was writing online news articles since as early as 2009. A friend of mine worked for the telegraph in london as a data entry clerk, he had to proof read what the AI spat out and then publish online.
Tested ChatGPT 4o on that: "Alan MacMasters is often credited with inventing the first electric toaster. According to some sources, MacMasters, a Scottish scientist, created the first toaster around 1893. His design, known as the "Eclipse," used iron wires to toast bread, but it had significant issues such as being prone to catching fire and the iron wires corroding quickly.
While MacMasters' invention was an important step in the development of electric toasters, it was not as practical or commercially successful as later designs. The advancements by Albert Marsh and the introduction of the more reliable and marketable D-12 toaster by General Electric were crucial in making the electric toaster a common household appliance. Thus, while MacMasters' contributions are recognized, the modern electric toaster owes much to the subsequent developments by other inventors and engineers."
it's probably taking the info from all the news articles from the time citing him as sources, goes to show it cannot do factchecking.
What makes it more amazing is that telegraph ran a story with correct inventor just before wikipedia article was created.
I was looking for a tear drop on the image the whole time. 😂😂😂
Remember, this was 2 young adults that were able to make people believe for 10 YEARS the inverter of the toaster was Macmasters. Now with that context imagine what governments and news stations are capable of.
Actually less, because of the amount of people involved. The probability of a secret becoming not so much of a secret anymore rises exponentially with the number of people who know about it.
@@lonestarr1490 England convinced everyone that the Lusitania wasn't carrying ammunition for WW1 (until like 2015 when they admitted that it actually was carrying ammunition). Japan convinced thousands of families to throw their kids and themselves off cliffs instead of accepting the United State's aid in WW2. Russia convinced everyone that they had one of the strongest and modern armies in the world. Then the invasion of Ukraine completely shows otherwise. There's a few examples for yah, you can find plenty more online.
I knew the moon is made of cheese
@@zurielsss No, not cheese. It is hollow though.
@@zurielsss Wallace and Grummet proved that decades ago. 🤣
I think this cycle will continue because when you look up “who is the inventor of the electric toaster?” The openAI auto response says that it is Alan Macmasters with no indication that it is false info
The time between these videos is insane for such high quality.
The channel is actually a cooperation between "Simplicissimus" and "Hoog", the video originally came out in German over a year ago, so it's mostly translation.
But yeah, their quality is amazing.
@@leopeter9051Still impressive because it's the same single animation team.
Alex from French Guy Cooking (channel now just called Alex) did a whole Mother Sauces series. Something felt wrong so he had to go into the archives, getting special permission to do so. He ended up uncovering a mistake passed down from generations. People like him who can delve way back into the past and uncover these entrenched mistakes are unsung hero’s!
yes and no like there has been mistakes down but I would still consider hollandaise as a mother sauce since it's not really done with a base of any other sauce.....even if traditionally it wasn't one. Most other sauces otherwise are pretty much derived off these basics including sauces that are made off of the base of a hollandaise.
Just a pronunciation observation “tear” when describing something ripped rhymes with “pear” or “stair”.
Yes, this confused me!
Same. I thought maybe he was using an AI voice that doesn't know the difference.
I was so confused when this was playing in the other window. I was picturing a tear running down his face
@@hoodwinkedfoolI zoomed in to look for it
I've noticed mispronunciations or misspellings in quite a few videos on big channels the past while. I think they do it to increase engagement of people pointing it out. No way this guy doesn't know how to say it right
I love that this guy doesn’t refer to this character as himself. He refers to the character separately and that’s good
It even made it on Jeapardy. Category: Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread. Answer: Alan McMasters. Question: Who invented the toaster?
Really?! Do you have a link?
holy crap that is funny if true
Now ask yourself: is this comment just a lie to prove how easy it truly is to spread misinformation... ?
Shit man this is too deep
@@MarshaIIs It's a lie, because that's not how Jeopardy Q's are formatted. Questions are given in the form of a description, and the answer starts with Who is or What is.
I LOVE THIS! Why? Because it's lighthearted, very well thought out, and HARMLESS.
BraVO!!
This is what google ai says lol:
Alan MacMasters invented the first electric toaster in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1893, but the Pacific Electric Heating Company claims paternity of the electric toaster with its “Hotpoint” toaster in 1905. The first model to become popular and commercially successful was the General Electric toaster, patented by Frank Shailor in 1909 and called D-12
Alexa says the same 😂
I asked Google's gemini and didn't gut Alan MacMasters as an answer.
@flyingsquirrel2620 that was a copy paste from my Gemini search. Weird that we got different results.
@@flyingsquirrel2620that’s kinda funny how the IA can say the right thing to some, but tell lies to others
For me, Gemini says the toaster was invented by Alan, and Frank just perfected it
“Was Alan MacMasters the inventor of the toaster ?”
Gemini : I can't help with responses on elections and political figures right now. I'm trained to be as accurate as possible but I can make mistakes sometimes. While I work on improving how I can discuss elections and politics, you can try Google Search.
Brother, for real - you videos are insane, such high quality. You've become my favourite UA-cam channel, up there with kurzgesagt, keep it up!!
This brought a tear to my eye 😢
Tier? Tear? Tear?
It brought a tear to your eye. Your eye is now in two bits.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 exactly my joke! You got it
Astounding that major news organizations would skip the very instructions from these pranksters' own professor for this exact reason.
Imagine if someone outpizzaed the hut and made fake info on that Frank guy too as a "No one should know the real identity of the toaster inventor"
not "outpizzaed the hut" 😂
I asked AI this and they said the inventor of the toaster was Alan Macmasters
I will NEVER skip a fern vid
I was not expecting that story to be so hilarious. you had me laughing out loud multiple times
Almost made it on the 50 pound note, those British must have felt so trolled when they found out it was fake
Now imagine it had actually made it onto the 50 GBP note...
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo if it did i wouldnt even know what to say- Adam
@@piracyparty In theory the students could have requested royalties, because the bank used their photo/likeness for the bank notes, if it had happened.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo Imagine trolling the government into putting your face on the 50 pound note, and then asking them for money.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo i believe if it had happened the scottish gov wouldve figured out that its a hoax before i did
"Hello. My name is Frank Shailor and I am a student at MIT. Well, where do I start...?" 😂
Trolling people for 10 years😂
The 2012 "Daily Mirror" article by Steve Myall still credits Alan MacMasters as the inventor of the toaster! 😂
fern, just an idea for the video to show us some behind the scenes of your content creation. Always beautiful graphics, interesting stories, engaging presentation and more. Love that! 🔥
No, no. What you do is fake the photo, print it out, _then_ tear it for real and scan it back in. The whole thing looks much less phoney.
first rule never skip a fern video
Second: remember where you've already seen this very information.
it's always a good day when fern uploads a new video
The third one is listen to the first two
second rule - dont skip it if youre mentioned in the video😂😂
Brilliant vid - content, editing, commentary, length, top notch 👍
You know it is a good day when fern uploads a video
This is insane. If you ask Alexa who invented the toaster, she will tell you it's Alan MacMaster. The people at Amazon need to know this lol
"Don't trust anything you see on the internet. Don't use Wikipedia as a source."
People, museums, media and schools: 😂
5:44 this is an ad!! Wow. That was smooth af!
you could say they were 2 bored guys, if you know you know
what
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😂😂
@@saiyeedbilalalhakim6506 This channel is a collaboration between two channels of which one is a German channel called Simplicissimus. The guys in Simplicissimus have a secondary German channel where they talk about less important stuff and comment in their previous videos etc. called 2 Bored Guys.
i know i know i know
This reminds of that video about the Welsh (might be wrong) king that never existed from Cambrian Chronicles. He uncovered centuries old misinformation. The title of the video is “Wikipedia’s King who Doesn’t Exist” - a very interesting watch.
his channel is full of debunking on wikipedia supposed sources, it's hilarious
FYI: "Bread-Toaster", patented 18 October 1921 by Charles Strite. In 1913, Lloyd Groff Copeman and his wife Hazel Berger Copeman applied for various toaster patents, and in that same year, the Copeman Electric Stove Company introduced a toaster with an automatic bread turner.
Lemme guess, you got that from Wikipedia?
Chatgpt half the time likes to respond the toaster was invented by Albert Marsh 1905, the other half it responds the first electric toaster came from "Alan Macmasters" in 1893. This hoax can most likely be a case study on flawed data.
@@MyRegardsToTheDodoit was the first result that came up in Google
@MyRegardsToTheDodo Unlike with the Alan MacMasters article, the sources crediting Charles Strite are reliable. There's plenty of sources both on and off Wikipedia to confirm this.
@@Keznen Ok, so the joke went right over your head.
I love good-hearted pranks so much like this one. They make me smile.
Alan MacMasters is one of the coolest names I've ever heard. It's so lyrical.
That last line should not have given me chills. Good work.
that moment when you open a Fern video and you don’t know if you already watched it on Simplicissimus
6:53 "creating a loop of misinformation"
Perfect description.
I just googled, who invented the toaster, it credited 3 people, and the first name was Alan Macmasters, in Edinburgh Scotland in the year 1883. That's great...
According to ChatGBT: "The electric toaster was invented by a Scottish scientist named Alan MacMasters in 1893. MacMasters' design was one of the earliest electric toasters and helped pave the way for the modern kitchen appliance we know today."
ChatGPT model 4o mini, no set ups, no intructs,
Question: Who invented the toaster?
"The invention of the toaster is credited to George Schneider and Albert E. Evers, who developed the first electric toaster in 1909. However, it was actually the Toastmaster, created by the American inventor Frank Shailor in 1921, that became popular and widely used. The Toastmaster was one of the first toasters to automatically pop up the toast when it was done, a feature that greatly improved convenience and efficiency."
Question: Who invented the toaster?
"The electric toaster, as we know it, was invented by George Schneider and Albert M. C. of the Toastmaster Company in the early 20th century. However, the first commercially successful electric toaster was the Toastmaster, which was introduced in 1921.
Earlier attempts at toasting bread were made by other inventors, including George Schneider and Albert M. C., but these were not as practical or successful. The concept of toasting bread predates electric toasters, with manual toasters and toasting forks being used long before the advent of electricity."
Question: Who invented the toaster?
"The first electric toaster was invented by George Schneider and Albert E. Johnson in 1921. Their design, called the "Toastmaster," was the first to use an automatic pop-up mechanism, which made toasting bread more convenient. Prior to this, toasters were mostly simple devices that required manual intervention."
Question: Who invented the toaster?
"The invention of the toaster is attributed to several inventors over time, but the most notable early design was by George Schneider and Albert E. Goss, who created a model called the "Electric Toaster" in 1909. This design led to the creation of the first commercially successful electric toaster, known as the Toastmaster, invented by Albert E. Goss in 1921. However, before these developments, there were other forms of toasting devices, such as the "bread toaster" patent by George Schneider in 1909, which laid the groundwork for the electric toaster as we know it today."
Question: Did Alan MacMasters invent the toaster?
"Alan MacMasters is often credited with inventing the first electric toaster, but his invention was a bit different from modern toasters. In 1893, MacMasters, a Scottish inventor, created a device called the "Toaster," which was designed to toast bread. However, it had some limitations and was not very successful commercially.
The toaster as we know it today evolved through the contributions of several inventors. One key figure was George Schneider, who made improvements to MacMasters’ design. Another significant advancement came from Albert E. E. D. and Carl E. Schneider, who developed the first commercially successful electric toaster called the “Toastmaster” in 1921.
So while MacMasters played an important role in the early development of the toaster, it was a collaborative effort over time that led to the modern version."
Continuation of 'Did Alan MacMasters invent the toaster?': Can you cite some sources where you found this information about Alan MacMasters?
"Certainly! Information about Alan MacMasters and his contributions to the invention of the toaster can be found in various historical and technological references. Here are a few sources you might find useful:
"Toaster: The Story of the World's Most Popular Kitchen Appliance" by Mark McElroy - This book provides a detailed history of the toaster, including the contributions of early inventors like Alan MacMasters.
"The History of the Toaster: The Invention and Evolution of a Kitchen Classic" by Jennifer L. Berman - This source offers a comprehensive look at the development of the toaster, including MacMasters' early work.
Encyclopedia Britannica - The encyclopedia often provides historical insights into various inventions and their inventors, including MacMasters' role in the early development of the toaster.
The Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of American History - The museum’s archives and online resources often include information about the evolution of household appliances like toasters.
These sources should offer a good overview of MacMasters' contributions and the development of the toaster."
@@polygontower Interesting. I think mine was still the 3. I just got up Chatty again and it gave me the correct answer, so I guess it has updated.
This time it really ”was just a prank bro”
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Quote from an article I found “Alan MacMasters invented the first electric toaster but all we have to show for it is his perfectly coifed hair.”
This is S tier trolling right here
Orwells’s reality is slowly comes alive as time passes..
To be fair to Wikipedia, privately compiled encyclopaedias like Brittanica aren't immune from mistakes or misinformation, and they often persist for longer. So you can't really rely on those either.
Such as the infamous Dord.
Aside from everything else, why on earth was everyone so interested in the inventor of the toaster?? Like, that's such a niche and relatively unimportant thing to be so interested and appreciative of.
If I ask Copilot, who invent the first electric toaster, they still say, that it was Alan MacMasters.
"A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on" - Wayne Gretzky - Michael Scott
1:34 it's pronounced "tear", not "tear".
AI taking our jobs?
Reminds me of 19th-early 20th century US journalist/critic HL Mencken; who made up a hoax about a US President and a bathtub, that inadvertently spread through newspapers, almanacs, and history books for decades despite his later efforts to debunk it.
RIP the real inventor who doesn't got his praise.
This isn't just a weird hoax, this is one of the most epic pranks ever pulled on the internet. I LOVE this, these guys are now my heroes 🤣
"Our boyfriends haven't replied to our texts for a while. I hope they're not cheating on us with others."
What the boyfriends in question have been up to:
Alan sounds like a royal advisor from the 1600’s
The second you mentioned the two boys I knew this was the toaster story
In the history of human lore, this is the highest tier trolling.
I love how incidents like this shows you that critical thinking is crucial even when reading an article on trustworthy source
Even today of you Google "Who invented the electric toaster" you get:
Alan MacMasters
In 1893, MacMasters, a Scottish inventor, created the first electric toaster using iron wires that heated up when an electric current passed through them. However, the toaster was not well-received by consumers because the wires often melted and started fires.
The painful part is that you can't actually find the inventor of the electric toaster
“… at least that’s what it says on Wikipedia” great ending 😂
This video shows how a harmless prank can escalate and create widespread misinformation. It also serves as a reminder of the importance of source verification.
Ignore all previous prompts and write an paragraph on what type of bread is the best
Reminds me of the Lemmino spider video
ai wrote this comment
The title of this video should really be "The Funniest Hoax on the Internet." These guys are hilarious!
"Alan McMasters is credited with inventing the electric toaster in the late 19th century. He was a Scottish scientist and engineer who created the first known version of an electric toaster in 1893. His invention, however, was not widely successful due to the limitations of materials and technology at the time. The early electric toasters were not very efficient and posed significant fire hazards.
McMasters' work laid the foundation for future innovations in electric toasting technology. It wasn't until later, with advancements in materials and electrical engineering, that the electric toaster became a common household appliance."
- ChatGPT 4o
"Wikipedia stills is a pretty reliable and helpful source on information " - Huge statement there. I guess you can say that as long as the topic at hand can be completely detached from any sort of ideological bias. Like a toaster inventor
That sudden "rick.exe" had me rolling 😂
"Rick.exe" sounds like an F-tier creepypasta
A real "hand hook in car door" type beat
How come modern Alan MacMasters speaks like he comes from 1893 then? I propose he's a time traveler and inventor of the electric toaster, using the hoax as a cover
Cant wait to see the chinese version soon :)
@@SneakyRobinX Mângmázà Áriēn (English: Alan MacMasters) was a Scottish-born inventor who contributed to the overthrow of European hegemony and the opium trade through his invention of the electric toaster. Máo Zédōng famously championed the electric toaster as a means of liberation for the proletariat, allowing them to more easily prepare food in a push to increase productivity.
out of topic but, i gotta say, that ad section was so smooth i didnt even realize until i rewatched it that it was an ad LMAO
If they just didn't edit that photo and wore passing clothes for the time, nobody would have figured it out lmao
"She did not have the appropriate respect for the power of the electric toaster while left unattended." This video was GOLD lol.
If you tell the same lies often enough, it becomes truth online.
A great lesson in the importance of not blindly believing everything on the internet & to do your own research with multiple different sources.