The Patrick Stewart casting in the Dune movie is all the more amusing when the Dune miniseries (also on SciFi Channel) would eventually have James McAvoy.
I'd seen both Dune and Excalibur many times before TNG premiered. It wasn't until I rewatched them after TNG had been on a while that I realized Patrick Stewart had even been in those movies.
Fun story from the area I live. Radio station #1 put out a billboard advertisement a sizable part of the populace found offensive. Radio Station #2 started calling themselves "Family Friendly (callsign)" and specifically mentioned you'd "never have to explain our songs or billboards to your kids." Well, it wasn't long until a prominent DJ from #1 caught #2 playing "Every Breath" and encouraged listeners to call #2 demanding they explain the song to their kids, even if they didn't have any, and after THAT kerfunkle encouraged people to keep calling #2 to request it and various other songs that could be interpreted certain ways. It turns out, a LOT of songs can be interpreted in 'certain' ways...
@@davincent98 Sting has said "Every Breath" is about a jealous ex-boyfriend stalking his girlfriend as she goes out on dates with her new guy. He wrote it during his own breakup as a way to explain things you shouldn't do when you break up with someone.
If I remember correctly, Sting said in several interviews, going back to the 80s, that he was "horrified" when he first heard that some people used it as their wedding song because they thought it was "romantic". What a weird notion, to think that an intelligent guy like him wouldn't know what his lyrics convey, especially when he wrote them to deal with creepy feelings of his own.
The bit about how easily Yui’s assassination plan could go wrong is a big lesson of the story. When Extra Credits examined the book, the notes that every major character was wrong about something. Yui for example was wrong that he could co-opt the coup for his own revenge, while the Emperor wrong thinking he could use the Atraetes/Harkonnen rivalry to protect himself. This is also, why Paul wants to legitimize his rule by marrying the princess; he’s trying to co-opt the Fremen prophecy for his own revenge without dragging the universe into a civil war; he’s wrong, too (this also explains why he marries Irulan; he's still trying to avoid starting a universe-wide war, but ultimately fails). My best friend guessed the reason Jessica and Leto couldn’t just have another kid was that the Harkonnens weren’t interested in waiting that long. Cuz, you know, they’re all psychotic. Also, Lynch “didn’t want to see King Fu on sand dunes,” but he was OK with this universe’s method of FTL involving a giant deformed fetus shooting a laser out of its nose?
“I started selling out on Dune. Looking back, it's no one's fault but my own. I probably shouldn't have done that picture, but I saw tons and tons of possibilities for things I loved, and this was the structure to do them in. There was so much room to create a world. But I got strong indications from Raffaella and Dino De Laurentiis of what kind of film they expected, and I knew I didn't have final cut.” - David Lynch on Dune, in one of the few instances he’s willingly spoken about it. He detests the film, as he had no final cut, minimal creative control, and realized he was a bad fit for the material, and admitted that by the end, he only wanted his paycheck. He refuses to talk about the film in interviews whenever it’s brought up. Of course, he near instantly bounced back with _Blue Velvet,_ which netted him his third Oscar nomination, this time for Best Director), followed by _Twin Peaks_ (got him an Emmy nomination), and has kept up his idiosyncratic style all on his own ever since, earning his most recent Oscar nomination for Directing _Mulholland Drive_.
"The year is Ten thousand, one hundred and ninety-one. We're beginning to think that Half-Life 3 is not going to come out, but series 5 of Sherlock has just been announced."
The comic shows what that movie could have and should have been. If not mishandled by Cannon Films. Also Legendary Superman artist Curt Swan makes it even better.
Please note that the Bene Gesserit aren't telepathic, just hyper-observant and can control their own bodily functions to an extreme degree. The "voice" they use is the same, a commanding tone combined with phrases that the target is vulnerable to. The point is that it isn't supposed to be the least bit supernatural.
I'd like to point out that the goofy floating Baron Harkonnen suit was not in the original book. In the book, the Baron used a "suspender belt" which lowered the gravity (not negate it entirely like his suit in the movie) and allowed him to move around "as if he was as slim as a ballerina", despite being severely obese (iirc).
If I remember right, the book explained that the shields couldn’t be used on Arrakis due to them emitting a high/low frequency sound that drew every worm within proverbial earshot towards it.
Furthermore and to-wit, the Palace was allowed to be shielded without attracting worms due to an enormous rock formation surrounding it. It was the use of the atomic weapons that broke the wall that made the assault on the Palace possible, along with the epic worm riding!
There's more to it, though I think it was only explained in the books at first. Laser weaponry is a thing in the Dune-universe and a personal shield reacts rather... violently to being hit by a high powered laser-beam. So violently in fact, that the "atomics" used are firecrackers by comparison and this happens on both ends of the laser beam, too...
@@MadnerKami Makes me wonder why they don't use that as weapons. You plant a shield somewhere and snipe it with a laser weapon. BOOM Much faster and easier to carry than nukes. Or atomics. If there's even a difference
Yeah, that is something I never got. If you have shields that block everything apart from lasers and then you have lasers that cause sub-atomic explosions when they hit shields... Warfare in this setting makes absolutely no sense.
@@Mobysimo because the laser weapon blows up too and automating a laser platform so you can have people at a safe distance when it fires on a shield will be hard in a universe that's banned advanced computers (a thing Linkara forgot to bring up, if you don't know; in Dune's backstory there was a Machine Uprising a few thousand years before the book but humans eventually won and added 'thou shalt not make a machine in the image of a human mind' to the Commandments in the 'orange catholic bible')
I remember seeing the film first in middle school on AMC and actually being really intrigued. Enough so that while on a week long vacation in a beach town I picked up the original book at a used book store when i came across it the first day of said vacation and spent the bulk of every day at the beach the rest of the week reading the novel and absolutely loving it. Its still my favorite book I've ever read, and if not for the David Lynch film I wouldn't have discovered it, so I'm at least thankful it exists for that.
"Given that the guy now has three names..." [I think to myself that this would be par for the course for a Tolkien character] "...are we sure that this wasn't an undeveloped Tolkien manuscript?" God bless you, lewis.
"I *WILL* kill him! I *WILL* kill him!" Something not mentioned in the movie, is that the spice is worm poop. Keep in mind that they go on about how the spice gets into EVERYTHING, including the food.
That is not completely accurate. Spice is actually a fungusoid growth, that sprouts from the excretions of the pre-worm stage "Little Makers", when it comes into contact with water.
@@MadnerKami Technically that's pre-spice. Spice forms only when the spice blow hits the surface and the fungal growth is exposed to oxygen and sunlight.
Though it is possible to adapt Frank Herbert’s novel into a comic book. The first volume of a graphic novel of Dune was recently published and there will be other volumes coming.
@@JaelinBezel As long as he's not in a poorly edited movie where they remove his mustache with CGI. It's like watching a live-action version of Clutch Cargo.
I was actually eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch while watching this. I never knew about the Dune references in Too Boldly Flee until now, it doesn't make it any better.
So, two things that are super important, that apparently neither the comic nor movie explains: When Paul drinks the water of life he gets the ability to see the future. When his mom drinks it, the baby in her womb gains all the genetic memory of every single one of her ancestors. So she is born with all the knowledge and memories of her mother, and her father, and all her grandparents, etc. etc. Thus, even when she's born she already has many lifetimes of experience.
30:18, this apparently made more sense in the book as the baron was planning on Rabban’s rule being so terrible, that his replacement Feyd would seem like the savior to the fremen, which the family would take advantage of by essentially ruling over them heart of darkness style. This is essentially what happens with Paul who essentially enables a cult by claiming to be the savior to get the resources to avenge his dad and overthrow the emperor Addendum, the reason Jessica was supposed to have a daughter was because the Bene Gesserit planned on finally ending the feud between the two families by having Feyd marry Leto and Jessica’s daughter, who would then give birth to their planned Kwisatz Haderach. But when Jessica chose to have a son, this somehow lead to the Kwisatz Haderach being born a generation early, causing a shit ton of chaos in the process. Essentially Feyd was planned to take a role similar to Paul via the bene Gesserit’s failed marriage alliance and his uncle’s attempt at replicating Paul’s messiah role in Fremen culture.
OK, so this was better explained in the book as well as the 2021 film adaptation, but the reason why the Harkonnens were trying hide evidence of the attack against the Atredeis was because if known, then the rest of the great houses will unite against the Baron and the Emperor. It's not really to prevent tipping their hand to the Atredeis. This was also explained in the movie that the comic adapts from but I don't know if the comic explains the reason why the attack is supposed to be a secret.
I recall Bill Sienkiewicz talking about this on twitter once. According to him, the producers kept flip-flopping on the movie and because of that the comic kept having to be drawn and re-drawn, which probably explains some of the discrepancies
Love the old digest size book. I used to have a digest of Empire Strikes Back. They're fun travel-size books. But back to the topic... Love the Smithed cut of the movie and absolutely love this review! Thanks Linkara!
The movie came out my Senior year in College. Five of us went to the matinee, but the final reel was missing, even though it seemed the story ended. The manager said we could come back the next day and watch the matinee for free. We sat through the hole thing again and discovered that the final reel consisted of the final minute and the closing credits. It was also the first time I saw Patrick Stewart act. When I heard he was going to play Picard, I thought, "Well, at least he has a sci-fi background."
It makes sense for Feyd and Paul to fight since Feyd is now the Baron Harrokkenen and they've been fighting with the Atredies for YEARS (also the Emperor was supposed to be using Feyd as champion)
Ironically, my first exposure to Dune was the video game. Not Dune 2 (which invented the RTS genre) but the adventure/strategy hybrid by Cryo Interactive that came out the same year. It's actually pretty damn good, follows the movie rather well and has a killer soundtrack.
The book gives a bit of detail on Fayd being a masterful knife fighter, having won a stupid number of death matches. All the matches were rigged to guarantee his victory, but it was a fail-safe arranged by his father and he took pride in never using it. While Paul has no reason to accept Fayd's challenge, other than to put on a display of absolute power and fearlessness, Fayd thought he had victory in the bag and it shows that Paul's skills have matured when he is able to deflect both the primary and the hidden blade.
I thought the people who had dealt with giant worms before would be Sandy and Spongebob. Yeah, Dune worms are big, but have you ever faced an ALASKAN BULL WORM?!
I was pissed when I found out that they'd published and given out a "cheat-sheet" like glossary describing various characters, and other named things in the film/book for the opening weekend shows, and I missed it because I went to see it the second week! Imagine having to do something like this today! Its just bizarre!
Got to love logic like this. 'If they try and take over they'll win... so let's give them a reason to try and take over.' Admittedly it's probably sound logic, I'm just not seeing it.
24:50 Upon hearing that whole dialogue, I had the mother of all laughing fits. Perhaps the combination of the absurd dialogue and Linkara's delivery really got to me.
The Emperor's hand in the attack had to be hidden because if it had been known the Landstraad {the Nobles/ High-families} would turn against him in fear they'd be next. Politics eh.
Dr. Huey is Dean Stockwell, Al from Quantum Leap & Cavil from Battlestar Galactica. He's also done a ton of other things since he started acting as a child.
Looking back at this movie... this is as close as we'll ever get to a David Lynch-direct Star Wars movie, and I would LOVE to see David Lynch direct an official Star Wars film. He is still alive at this point in time, though, right? With all of the famous people who have been dying in the past few years, I've been having trouble keeping track of who's still kicking.
The Emperor doesn't want anyone knowing he was involved because of the Great Convention, which never gets established in the movie. If the Emperor's involvement were discovered, the other houses in the Landsraad would unite against him and destroy him. It's like a Byzantine space Cold War.
Say what you will about this movie its loaded with a lot of cool actors: Kyle MacLachlan, Patrick Stuart, Brad Duriff, Dean Stockwell, Freddie Jones, hell even Sting!
Don't you dare forgetting about Kenneth McMillan. Easily the most memorable, albeit not particularly book-accurate portrayal of the Baron. Oh and his performance is immortalized on the official soundtrack no less. Floating Fat Man indeed.
My dad had a Digest size comic of Return of the Jedi, so yeah, was some, but not many. And just like you, Allan Smithie cut is the one I'm more familiar with and Patrick Stewart was my main selling point in seeing it. Now last week, I had to Google the reference to see which one it was, not that familiar with Dune, but next week. Oh boy, well, guess Lex's nephew and Nuclear Man was in comics somewhere.
Alternate cut at 13:24 | Paul: What’s in the box? | Mochiam: Pain | Paul: Goddammit how did Ray Palmer get my address again?! | (Sorry for the block format, for some reason my enter key isn’t showing up on mobile)
11:45 - David Lynch is kind of an idiot. Reminds me of when the director of Rise of the Silver Surfer utterly refused to portray Galactus because he felt giant robots were beneath him.
Alexander Mandzi I suggest you look up KrimsonRogue and his review on Dune. He does a show called the “book was better” where he takes books and their adaptations. And just so you know he doesn’t always default to “the book was better”. He analyzes some of the strengths the movie had and a couple times he even admits the movie is better than the book. Hd is really funny. You should also watch his other reviews. They’re all really good. If you want me to suggest any of his reviews I suggest the following. Twilight Fifty Shades of Grey Twilight: New Moon
"The art looks incomplete, here"--yeah, Bill Sienkiewicz, the artist, is a master... but his style in the early/mid 80s was loosening up a lot from the near-clone of Neil Adams he had started out as in the 70s. Usually it's not bad, but within the limitations of printing at the time, it didn't make the most of his art. With digital production, his stuff is breath-taking. Before such techniques, it could occasionally make the art look, well, incomplete. Even when, as here, he inks himself.
There's more to that name even, glory be upon Frank Herbert and his uncanny ability to incorporate reality in this work of distant-future fiction. The name "Kwisatz Haderach" is branched off a hebrew word that translates as "The Leap of the Way", describing how a Kabbala-initiate can travel vast distances in an instant. Conversely, the name "Bene Gesserit" finds roots in a word that refers to the Jews themselves, Bene Gesserit -> Bene Jeshurun, the "Sons of Israel". The books are full of such things and it's just brilliant.
Hebrew. Also, this is an attempt to use a language not many others speak in order to sound big and important. The 1st phrase, Kfitsat Haderech, literally means shortcut. The second doesn’t fit because the group it describes is an all woman group. The word Bene in Hebrew means boys or men of. If Hubert was clever as he thought, he’d call them Benot Gesserit
Gurney Halleck: "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert go I forth to my work." Lieutenant #1: "What did he say?" Lieutenant #2: "I don't know, something about going to look for some wild ass out in the desert."
"Unfortunately this was something made up by Fremen Televangelists." I mean, considering what we find out about the whole prophecy thing, you aren't wrong!
The miniseries are pretty terrible at conveying the mystical aspects of both the movie and the books though. By contrast, the mini-series are a lot more faithful to the source-material. I always felt, that the movie and the mini-series are on different, opposing ends of a scale, when thinking about where an adaptation can go. Either staying faithful to the source even if it detracts from your own work or go wild, even if it distances you from your original source.
Having read the books a few years ago but never watching the movies its so strange to see how psychedelic and bizarre the movie seems to be. The first book has some weirdness in its setting but its actually a pretty straight forward fantasy story.
Speaking of adaptations of a sci fi movie that was based on a book...Freejack. Yeah, that movie with Emilio Estevez, Anthony Hopkins and Sir Mick Jagger was based on a book/short story that was published in 1959. I would have to see you talk about the comic adaptation of that one next time you do this.
Personally I think Dune would work better as an animated series. You get more time to tell the Story/ develop the characters and it's less likely to have dated special effects.
21:16 “Every breath you take” doesn't sound like a stalker song, it is one. That's kinda what the song is actually about. Sting has even acknowledged how weird it is that people think it's “romantic”.
Ah yes, I know this muddy water. People consider it romantic for the same reason people write/read villain x hero hostage situation fanfics. If they know it or not, there's an appeal to darker depravity even in romance. People picked up on the appeal but didn't realize it and twisted the narrative to fit in. However, while this might be a horrible idea to tell you. I knew it was a stalker song, even as a small child, and still felt the same way as everyone around me who did not realize that. Yes dear fellow commenter, I do understand how screwed up that is. I would apologize but... Well, I don't have to tell you my reasoning. Have a good day.
Ben Wasserman It’s the inverse of what this month was for though, a comic that was adapted into a movie. It could be done for Event Comics month though.
Magnus Prime Ehhh possibly. But Spider-Verse the movie has no Mephisto deals or connections to Earth 616, so it’s technically a loophole to the blacklisting
31:37 Yeah. Life giving rain. Rain kills the sandworms. The Sandworms help create the spice. Paul just killed the production that runs the entire universe. Nice one, paul.
It’s interesting you bring up Tolkien, Lewis. There are some who consider Dune (the novel) to be the Lord of the Rings of science fiction. Speaking of which, have you read the novel?
I tried reading Dune once! I got...not very far before I was too bored to continue. Eight minutes into this review and I feel that boredom again. What an amazingly accurate adaptation.
The beginning of the video reminded me of Star Wars, and in Star Wars fashion we have a narrator letting us know about the great evil known as UA-cam's multiple faulty systems.
"I'm riding a giant worm. Your argument is invalid."
I'm riding Godzilla. Your argument is invalad
@AT Productions "is that like a personal attack or something?"
The Patrick Stewart casting in the Dune movie is all the more amusing when the Dune miniseries (also on SciFi Channel) would eventually have James McAvoy.
I look forward to the Star Trek: TNG reboot starring James McAvoy.
I'd seen both Dune and Excalibur many times before TNG premiered. It wasn't until I rewatched them after TNG had been on a while that I realized Patrick Stewart had even been in those movies.
Dan J Considering that upcoming Picard series, that’s always a possibility. Would be neat for a flashback segment or holodeck program.
@@st.anselmsfire3547
Not Tom Hardy?
It is even more amusing because Patrick Stewart was casted due to mistaken identity.
UA-cam's copyright system in a nutshell: WHO EVER CONTROLS THE CLAIM, CONTROLS THE WORLD!!
My grandmother once said: They who control the algorithm will control the world
"I'm riding a giant sandworm, your argument is invalid" needs to become a meme, or at least a t-shirt
Yes!!
Patrick Stewart. The man who went into battle with a blaster rifle in one hand and a pug in the other.
Yeah!!!
It’s weird that Linkara makes a joke about Sting not thinking Every Breath You Take is a stalker song, since Sting is very adamant it IS
I recently heard that he considers it more of a "Big Brother" song.
Fun story from the area I live. Radio station #1 put out a billboard advertisement a sizable part of the populace found offensive. Radio Station #2 started calling themselves "Family Friendly (callsign)" and specifically mentioned you'd "never have to explain our songs or billboards to your kids."
Well, it wasn't long until a prominent DJ from #1 caught #2 playing "Every Breath" and encouraged listeners to call #2 demanding they explain the song to their kids, even if they didn't have any, and after THAT kerfunkle encouraged people to keep calling #2 to request it and various other songs that could be interpreted certain ways. It turns out, a LOT of songs can be interpreted in 'certain' ways...
@@Some_Guy_In_Ohio So it's just a bunch of music fans trolling corporations playing the "think of the children" line.
@@davincent98 Sting has said "Every Breath" is about a jealous ex-boyfriend stalking his girlfriend as she goes out on dates with her new guy. He wrote it during his own breakup as a way to explain things you shouldn't do when you break up with someone.
If I remember correctly, Sting said in several interviews, going back to the 80s, that he was "horrified" when he first heard that some people used it as their wedding song because they thought it was "romantic".
What a weird notion, to think that an intelligent guy like him wouldn't know what his lyrics convey, especially when he wrote them to deal with creepy feelings of his own.
Every breath you take IS a stalker song. Sting finds it disturbing that it gets played at weddings.
Is it weird that I already knew that but I don't find it weird that people think it's a romantic song?
@@EvilDMMk3 I don't know if that's better or worse than using Pearl Jam's "Can't Find a Better Man".
The bit about how easily Yui’s assassination plan could go wrong is a big lesson of the story. When Extra Credits examined the book, the notes that every major character was wrong about something. Yui for example was wrong that he could co-opt the coup for his own revenge, while the Emperor wrong thinking he could use the Atraetes/Harkonnen rivalry to protect himself. This is also, why Paul wants to legitimize his rule by marrying the princess; he’s trying to co-opt the Fremen prophecy for his own revenge without dragging the universe into a civil war; he’s wrong, too (this also explains why he marries Irulan; he's still trying to avoid starting a universe-wide war, but ultimately fails).
My best friend guessed the reason Jessica and Leto couldn’t just have another kid was that the Harkonnens weren’t interested in waiting that long. Cuz, you know, they’re all psychotic.
Also, Lynch “didn’t want to see King Fu on sand dunes,” but he was OK with this universe’s method of FTL involving a giant deformed fetus shooting a laser out of its nose?
21:49, That's funny considering who the emperor is played by in Dune part 2
*sees thumbnail art*
*remembers last review*
... Nope, nothing suspicious here.
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“I started selling out on Dune. Looking back, it's no one's fault but my own. I probably shouldn't have done that picture, but I saw tons and tons of possibilities for things I loved, and this was the structure to do them in. There was so much room to create a world. But I got strong indications from Raffaella and Dino De Laurentiis of what kind of film they expected, and I knew I didn't have final cut.”
- David Lynch on Dune, in one of the few instances he’s willingly spoken about it. He detests the film, as he had no final cut, minimal creative control, and realized he was a bad fit for the material, and admitted that by the end, he only wanted his paycheck.
He refuses to talk about the film in interviews whenever it’s brought up. Of course, he near instantly bounced back with _Blue Velvet,_ which netted him his third Oscar nomination, this time for Best Director), followed by _Twin Peaks_ (got him an Emmy nomination), and has kept up his idiosyncratic style all on his own ever since, earning his most recent Oscar nomination for Directing _Mulholland Drive_.
"And one of my compatriots envisions himself wearing one..." and there is the Spoony joke...
video source, please
God, I miss Spoony...
"The year is Ten thousand, one hundred and ninety-one. We're beginning to think that Half-Life 3 is not going to come out, but series 5 of Sherlock has just been announced."
That's probably the most epic "like and subscribe" I've seen yet.
Romeo and Juliet prolouge narroration
Yaaaaay, Superman IV: Quest For Peace comic adaptation next week!
DawnOfTheOzz Hah, and just as Jon Cryer atoned for that movie with an amazing Lex Luthor performance in Supergirl
you are right sir
@@benwasserman8223 Is it wrong that I actually thought he did well given his material in Superman IV?
The comic shows what that movie could have and should have been. If not mishandled by Cannon Films.
Also Legendary Superman artist Curt Swan makes it even better.
Oh lord that bit about not swearing in the first bit of a video just got a LOT more timely.
Please note that the Bene Gesserit aren't telepathic, just hyper-observant and can control their own bodily functions to an extreme degree. The "voice" they use is the same, a commanding tone combined with phrases that the target is vulnerable to. The point is that it isn't supposed to be the least bit supernatural.
Also, the Weirding way was a martial art used by the Bene Gesserit in the books.
I'd like to point out that the goofy floating Baron Harkonnen suit was not in the original book. In the book, the Baron used a "suspender belt" which lowered the gravity (not negate it entirely like his suit in the movie) and allowed him to move around "as if he was as slim as a ballerina", despite being severely obese (iirc).
LINKARA: "Gurney Halleck comes in, with Dr Yueh and Thufir Hawat..."
ME:
Nice
If I remember right, the book explained that the shields couldn’t be used on Arrakis due to them emitting a high/low frequency sound that drew every worm within proverbial earshot towards it.
Furthermore and to-wit, the Palace was allowed to be shielded without attracting worms due to an enormous rock formation surrounding it. It was the use of the atomic weapons that broke the wall that made the assault on the Palace possible, along with the epic worm riding!
There's more to it, though I think it was only explained in the books at first. Laser weaponry is a thing in the Dune-universe and a personal shield reacts rather... violently to being hit by a high powered laser-beam. So violently in fact, that the "atomics" used are firecrackers by comparison and this happens on both ends of the laser beam, too...
@@MadnerKami Makes me wonder why they don't use that as weapons. You plant a shield somewhere and snipe it with a laser weapon. BOOM
Much faster and easier to carry than nukes. Or atomics. If there's even a difference
Yeah, that is something I never got. If you have shields that block everything apart from lasers and then you have lasers that cause sub-atomic explosions when they hit shields... Warfare in this setting makes absolutely no sense.
@@Mobysimo because the laser weapon blows up too
and automating a laser platform so you can have people at a safe distance when it fires on a shield will be hard in a universe that's banned advanced computers (a thing Linkara forgot to bring up, if you don't know; in Dune's backstory there was a Machine Uprising a few thousand years before the book but humans eventually won and added 'thou shalt not make a machine in the image of a human mind' to the Commandments in the 'orange catholic bible')
I remember seeing the film first in middle school on AMC and actually being really intrigued. Enough so that while on a week long vacation in a beach town I picked up the original book at a used book store when i came across it the first day of said vacation and spent the bulk of every day at the beach the rest of the week reading the novel and absolutely loving it.
Its still my favorite book I've ever read, and if not for the David Lynch film I wouldn't have discovered it, so I'm at least thankful it exists for that.
It’s the Kwisatz Haderach Givadaga Bone
This old man came rolling home
Linkara:wait your saying i can get the life abstaining psyche power i eat more Cinnamon Toast Crunch
Lystra: well shit perden me I'm chow down
I laughed way more than I would like to admit. Have a like.
"Given that the guy now has three names..." [I think to myself that this would be par for the course for a Tolkien character] "...are we sure that this wasn't an undeveloped Tolkien manuscript?"
God bless you, lewis.
Atop The Fourth Wall, they have Comic-sign likes the which even god has ever seen!!
Again... it is the legend!
Good news, the algorithm recommended this after Dune Part 2 came out.
"I *WILL* kill him! I *WILL* kill him!"
Something not mentioned in the movie, is that the spice is worm poop. Keep in mind that they go on about how the spice gets into EVERYTHING, including the food.
So does that mean the people who control the spice are literal shitlords?
And anyone who takes spice becomes addicted to it. They die if they stop eating worm shit.
That is not completely accurate. Spice is actually a fungusoid growth, that sprouts from the excretions of the pre-worm stage "Little Makers", when it comes into contact with water.
@@MadnerKami If it's a fungus that only grows on baby worm excrement, then it might as well just be worm shit.
@@MadnerKami Technically that's pre-spice. Spice forms only when the spice blow hits the surface and the fungal growth is exposed to oxygen and sunlight.
“Bless the Maker and His water.
Bless the coming and going of Him.
May His passage cleanse the world.
May He keep the world for His people. ”
Long live the fighters!
Awful fancy way of saying "thank God for the piss!"
Dragon Age?
@@JaelinBezel no
Rest In Peace, David Lynch! May you eternally ride Sand Worms like a boss throughout the Great Beyond!
Look it's virtually impossible to adapt David Lynch's mind into a comic book. He's just to weird and surreal for ordinary artists to handle
Ben Wasserman well, maybe if they got Grant Morrison to adapt the script and got Dave McKean to do the artwork...
The artwork on this is by Bill Sienkiewicz, and it is awesome by the way.
What else do you want?
@@adrianothemercilessThe pencilwork is fine. What this really needed Better Colouring.
It wasn't the coloring he criticized.
Though it is possible to adapt Frank Herbert’s novel into a comic book. The first volume of a graphic novel of Dune was recently published and there will be other volumes coming.
21:00 Possibly the same thoughts going through Henry Cavill's mind while being directed by Zack Snyder.
Is Henry Cavill good-looking?
@@JaelinBezel As long as he's not in a poorly edited movie where they remove his mustache with CGI. It's like watching a live-action version of Clutch Cargo.
I have been know to randomly shout 'Long Live the Fighters!' before any minor event in my life.
I was actually eating Cinnamon Toast Crunch while watching this.
I never knew about the Dune references in Too Boldly Flee until now, it doesn't make it any better.
Now I want Cinnamon Toast Crunch. It sounds so good
So, two things that are super important, that apparently neither the comic nor movie explains: When Paul drinks the water of life he gets the ability to see the future. When his mom drinks it, the baby in her womb gains all the genetic memory of every single one of her ancestors. So she is born with all the knowledge and memories of her mother, and her father, and all her grandparents, etc. etc. Thus, even when she's born she already has many lifetimes of experience.
Good lort that was the best opening parody ever!
The defining trait of an ornithopter is that it beats its wings like a bird or a bat. They couldn't even get that right.
Didn’t have the technology back then
30:18, this apparently made more sense in the book as the baron was planning on Rabban’s rule being so terrible, that his replacement Feyd would seem like the savior to the fremen, which the family would take advantage of by essentially ruling over them heart of darkness style. This is essentially what happens with Paul who essentially enables a cult by claiming to be the savior to get the resources to avenge his dad and overthrow the emperor
Addendum, the reason Jessica was supposed to have a daughter was because the Bene Gesserit planned on finally ending the feud between the two families by having Feyd marry Leto and Jessica’s daughter, who would then give birth to their planned Kwisatz Haderach. But when Jessica chose to have a son, this somehow lead to the Kwisatz Haderach being born a generation early, causing a shit ton of chaos in the process.
Essentially Feyd was planned to take a role similar to Paul via the bene Gesserit’s failed marriage alliance and his uncle’s attempt at replicating Paul’s messiah role in Fremen culture.
OK, so this was better explained in the book as well as the 2021 film adaptation, but the reason why the Harkonnens were trying hide evidence of the attack against the Atredeis was because if known, then the rest of the great houses will unite against the Baron and the Emperor. It's not really to prevent tipping their hand to the Atredeis.
This was also explained in the movie that the comic adapts from but I don't know if the comic explains the reason why the attack is supposed to be a secret.
28:54 Strange parallel: That's almost word for word the same complaint a lot of viewers had about one of the last Game of Thrones episodes.
“A beginning is a very delicate time, so make sure not to drop it.”
I want that line on a shirt!
Cannot wait for the next movie adaptation. I know it will be epic especially with the Director involved .
which one is it?
@@orcatwar9810 The person that directed Blade Runner 2049.
@@ixsusdalder oh but what the comic?
@@Rgoid It's out now, and it's pretty darn good, by all accounts! I see it later today.
You were so right. Epic indeed.
Dr. Crafty was having way to much fun with your title cards last month XD
I recall Bill Sienkiewicz talking about this on twitter once. According to him, the producers kept flip-flopping on the movie and because of that the comic kept having to be drawn and re-drawn, which probably explains some of the discrepancies
Huh. That explains some things.
The Spice must flow.... Cause I'm sick of people bringing unseasoned chicken at barbecues and potlucks
Love the old digest size book. I used to have a digest of Empire Strikes Back. They're fun travel-size books. But back to the topic... Love the Smithed cut of the movie and absolutely love this review! Thanks Linkara!
The movie came out my Senior year in College. Five of us went to the matinee, but the final reel was missing, even though it seemed the story ended. The manager said we could come back the next day and watch the matinee for free. We sat through the hole thing again and discovered that the final reel consisted of the final minute and the closing credits. It was also the first time I saw Patrick Stewart act. When I heard he was going to play Picard, I thought, "Well, at least he has a sci-fi background."
That was good to hear about.
It makes sense for Feyd and Paul to fight since Feyd is now the Baron Harrokkenen and they've been fighting with the Atredies for YEARS (also the Emperor was supposed to be using Feyd as champion)
Ironically, my first exposure to Dune was the video game. Not Dune 2 (which invented the RTS genre) but the adventure/strategy hybrid by Cryo Interactive that came out the same year. It's actually pretty damn good, follows the movie rather well and has a killer soundtrack.
And the unique way it merges genres is pretty cool. It was made before game genres solidified, and it shows. In the best way possible.
The book gives a bit of detail on Fayd being a masterful knife fighter, having won a stupid number of death matches. All the matches were rigged to guarantee his victory, but it was a fail-safe arranged by his father and he took pride in never using it. While Paul has no reason to accept Fayd's challenge, other than to put on a display of absolute power and fearlessness, Fayd thought he had victory in the bag and it shows that Paul's skills have matured when he is able to deflect both the primary and the hidden blade.
27:47 - I AM THE PRINCE OF ALL SAIYANS ONCE AGAIN!!
Way to bring up the DBZ reference to Dune, Vegeta.
Funnily enough, the fremen’s messiah was made up by the cult ladies who intended to create the messiah they spoke of to keep the fremen in line.
I thought the people who had dealt with giant worms before would be Sandy and Spongebob.
Yeah, Dune worms are big, but have you ever faced an ALASKAN BULL WORM?!
Yes finally someone else thinks "every move you make" is a creep song thank you linkaras!
I meant "every breath you take" derp
I thought Sting always said it was about a Stalker and was actually annoyed people thought it was a love song.
I knew it was a stalker song.. I didn't think it was weird that people thought it was romantic. Am I weird?
I was pissed when I found out that they'd published and given out a "cheat-sheet" like glossary describing various characters, and other named things in the film/book for the opening weekend shows, and I missed it because I went to see it the second week!
Imagine having to do something like this today! Its just bizarre!
"I will kill him!"
*Carol Danvers Blasts Him Off-Screen*
"Well that was easy. Next time just blast the jerk, Paul."
I don't get it
@@shmee123ful Ending of Captain Marvel is the exact opposite of this movie and proves how stupid the knife fight was.
Got to love logic like this. 'If they try and take over they'll win... so let's give them a reason to try and take over.' Admittedly it's probably sound logic, I'm just not seeing it.
Wanderingsage7 *"THERE IS... LOGIC IN WHAT HE SAYS."*
I've read a digest sized Dark Phoenix Saga colloction once. I can't remember if it was shrunk or rearanged like this one.
"Why prolong the inevitable. I will review you!"
24:50 Upon hearing that whole dialogue, I had the mother of all laughing fits. Perhaps the combination of the absurd dialogue and Linkara's delivery really got to me.
The Emperor's hand in the attack had to be hidden because if it had been known the Landstraad {the Nobles/ High-families} would turn against him in fear they'd be next. Politics eh.
Yeah, the emperor can't really be openly conspiring against a noble family, that might make the other noble families a bit unhappy...
Dr. Huey is Dean Stockwell, Al from Quantum Leap & Cavil from Battlestar Galactica. He's also done a ton of other things since he started acting as a child.
Including Tim Drake in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.
Anyone else think of "You'll float to" when linkara said "the spice must flow"
5:30 I'm very happy to say that joke has possibly just been made outdated
"They shall come all for violence.""Sir, this is a McDonalds. Order food or leave."
I wish I had a witty comment that uses "Dune" in it.
I really got nothing
You could say I was "duned" to fail?
You dune goofed
I can't believe you've dune this.
You’ve duned us all!!!
You people are dune a good job coming up with puns.
Goddammit Barbara!
Bill Sienkiewicz art is always fun to look at, though maybe not always fun to read.
Looking back at this movie... this is as close as we'll ever get to a David Lynch-direct Star Wars movie, and I would LOVE to see David Lynch direct an official Star Wars film.
He is still alive at this point in time, though, right? With all of the famous people who have been dying in the past few years, I've been having trouble keeping track of who's still kicking.
All that amazing Bill Sienkiewicz art in the comic adaptation... the man's art changed how comics are published in America.
The Emperor doesn't want anyone knowing he was involved because of the Great Convention, which never gets established in the movie. If the Emperor's involvement were discovered, the other houses in the Landsraad would unite against him and destroy him. It's like a Byzantine space Cold War.
Say what you will about this movie its loaded with a lot of cool actors: Kyle MacLachlan, Patrick Stuart, Brad Duriff, Dean Stockwell, Freddie Jones, hell even Sting!
All those AND Patrick Stewart.
@@andrebrynkus2055 Not to mention that sweet sweet soundtrack :D
Don't you dare forgetting about Kenneth McMillan. Easily the most memorable, albeit not particularly book-accurate portrayal of the Baron. Oh and his performance is immortalized on the official soundtrack no less. Floating Fat Man indeed.
@@MadnerKami Yeah he was fantastic, he was eating every scene he was in like an all you can eat buffet :D
My dad had a Digest size comic of Return of the Jedi, so yeah, was some, but not many. And just like you, Allan Smithie cut is the one I'm more familiar with and Patrick Stewart was my main selling point in seeing it. Now last week, I had to Google the reference to see which one it was, not that familiar with Dune, but next week. Oh boy, well, guess Lex's nephew and Nuclear Man was in comics somewhere.
Alternate cut at 13:24 | Paul: What’s in the box? | Mochiam: Pain | Paul: Goddammit how did Ray Palmer get my address again?! | (Sorry for the block format, for some reason my enter key isn’t showing up on mobile)
11:45 - David Lynch is kind of an idiot. Reminds me of when the director of Rise of the Silver Surfer utterly refused to portray Galactus because he felt giant robots were beneath him.
I've never watched Dune myself but this and Dominic Noble's review on it have me curious enough to give it a shot.
Alexander Mandzi I suggest you look up KrimsonRogue and his review on Dune. He does a show called the “book was better” where he takes books and their adaptations. And just so you know he doesn’t always default to “the book was better”. He analyzes some of the strengths the movie had and a couple times he even admits the movie is better than the book. Hd is really funny. You should also watch his other reviews. They’re all really good. If you want me to suggest any of his reviews I suggest the following.
Twilight
Fifty Shades of Grey
Twilight: New Moon
The running gag of telling Paul to read more about the planet was funny.
Oh yay something to entertain me during school in exam and EOC week. Thanks Linkara!
"The art looks incomplete, here"--yeah, Bill Sienkiewicz, the artist, is a master... but his style in the early/mid 80s was loosening up a lot from the near-clone of Neil Adams he had started out as in the 70s. Usually it's not bad, but within the limitations of printing at the time, it didn't make the most of his art. With digital production, his stuff is breath-taking. Before such techniques, it could occasionally make the art look, well, incomplete. Even when, as here, he inks himself.
Aaron Bourque I thought that art looked familiar. I love seinkewich. Can’t spell but still love
Indeed, his painted work with Elektra Assassin and Stray Toasters was where he really shined
A A never read stray toasters perhaps I oughta, I grab anything by him I see
So I just happened to find stray toasters #1 at the flea market today. So weird
Aw, my uncle loved Dune. I’ve never seen this movie before though. I love that “Weapon of Choice” reference by the way.
Easily my favorite opening you've ever done. :-D
I always wondered where the words "Kwisatz Haderach", which were used in the HOPR videos on Megaforce, came from. Now, I know.
There's more to that name even, glory be upon Frank Herbert and his uncanny ability to incorporate reality in this work of distant-future fiction. The name "Kwisatz Haderach" is branched off a hebrew word that translates as "The Leap of the Way", describing how a Kabbala-initiate can travel vast distances in an instant. Conversely, the name "Bene Gesserit" finds roots in a word that refers to the Jews themselves, Bene Gesserit -> Bene Jeshurun, the "Sons of Israel". The books are full of such things and it's just brilliant.
Hebrew.
Also, this is an attempt to use a language not many others speak in order to sound big and important.
The 1st phrase, Kfitsat Haderech, literally means shortcut.
The second doesn’t fit because the group it describes is an all woman group.
The word Bene in Hebrew means boys or men of.
If Hubert was clever as he thought, he’d call them Benot Gesserit
Gurney Halleck: "Behold, as a wild ass in the desert go I forth to my work."
Lieutenant #1: "What did he say?"
Lieutenant #2: "I don't know, something about going to look for some wild ass out in the desert."
"Unfortunately this was something made up by Fremen Televangelists." I mean, considering what we find out about the whole prophecy thing, you aren't wrong!
There is a reason why the Scifi (that was what they were going by at the time) Miniseries is better regarded. It had more time to explain things.
I honestly prefer Ian McNeice's portrayal of Baron Harkonen.
The miniseries are pretty terrible at conveying the mystical aspects of both the movie and the books though. By contrast, the mini-series are a lot more faithful to the source-material. I always felt, that the movie and the mini-series are on different, opposing ends of a scale, when thinking about where an adaptation can go. Either staying faithful to the source even if it detracts from your own work or go wild, even if it distances you from your original source.
Some things are good in each, but the movie is maybe more enjoyable over all. A lot of Fremen stuff was cut though.
Digest sized comics are common in Europe and UK.
Only tangentially relating to this review; Man, I missed when Spoony was releasing content on the regular.
Having read the books a few years ago but never watching the movies its so strange to see how psychedelic and bizarre the movie seems to be. The first book has some weirdness in its setting but its actually a pretty straight forward fantasy story.
Yeah- it feels familiar because everyone ripped it off lol.
Speaking of adaptations of a sci fi movie that was based on a book...Freejack. Yeah, that movie with Emilio Estevez, Anthony Hopkins and Sir Mick Jagger was based on a book/short story that was published in 1959. I would have to see you talk about the comic adaptation of that one next time you do this.
The funny thing is though we are actually getting a dune remake which that should be interesting
I'm so pumped for that. The director has stated that it's a passion project of his, and it's being split into two parts.
@@KayWhyCommando i can agree with that and i am hoping its really good.
Personally I think Dune would work better as an animated series. You get more time to tell the Story/ develop the characters and it's less likely to have dated special effects.
@@eamonndeane587 i can agree with that
Welp
I'm creeped out
The second that linkara mentioned the rain coming down at the end, it started raining where I am
It's because he IS the Kwisatz Haderach
I had the Digest Format of the Star Was comic for Episode IV, as a kid
The worse part of this Review is remembering Spoony and thinking about him
Yeah he and the NC peak.
21:16 “Every breath you take” doesn't sound like a stalker song, it is one.
That's kinda what the song is actually about.
Sting has even acknowledged how weird it is that people think it's “romantic”.
Ah yes, I know this muddy water. People consider it romantic for the same reason people write/read villain x hero hostage situation fanfics. If they know it or not, there's an appeal to darker depravity even in romance. People picked up on the appeal but didn't realize it and twisted the narrative to fit in. However, while this might be a horrible idea to tell you. I knew it was a stalker song, even as a small child, and still felt the same way as everyone around me who did not realize that. Yes dear fellow commenter, I do understand how screwed up that is. I would apologize but... Well, I don't have to tell you my reasoning. Have a good day.
I guess there's no chance in getting Linkara to cover the Spider-Verse comic that inspired a certain Oscar-winning animated film
Ben Wasserman It’s the inverse of what this month was for though, a comic that was adapted into a movie. It could be done for Event Comics month though.
Magnus Prime Ehhh possibly. But Spider-Verse the movie has no Mephisto deals or connections to Earth 616, so it’s technically a loophole to the blacklisting
Superman 4 is next week..... i am expecting references to the original review of the movie when ya did that crossover.
31:37 Yeah. Life giving rain. Rain kills the sandworms. The Sandworms help create the spice. Paul just killed the production that runs the entire universe. Nice one, paul.
@@Rgoid Maybe. Still funny to think about though
25:20 Obviously the baby's first words were, "Open your MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND." LOL
It’s interesting you bring up Tolkien, Lewis. There are some who consider Dune (the novel) to be the Lord of the Rings of science fiction.
Speaking of which, have you read the novel?
Ornithopter! 0_0 *MTG flashbacks*
I tried reading Dune once! I got...not very far before I was too bored to continue. Eight minutes into this review and I feel that boredom again. What an amazingly accurate adaptation.
The beginning of the video reminded me of Star Wars, and in Star Wars fashion we have a narrator letting us know about the great evil known as UA-cam's multiple faulty systems.
I used to have a Battlestar Galactica comic in that weird paperback size. Pretty convenient for reading with a torch when you're "asleep".