Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy .44 Caliber | Unboxing and Review
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2016
- Short unboxing and initial review of my new Pietta Model 1851 Confederate Navy Colt .44 Caliber Black Powder Revolver that I purchased from Cabelas on sale...links below...
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Can u ahoot conical bullets from it or just round balls
Not anymore they wont ship and want you to fill out a 4473 just like you're buying a modern firearm. So I got one from Old South Firearms. They ship and the steel frame version is $239.00 plus $11.50 shipping. cabellas is $275 for the steel frame with tax.
@@antcri730 Depends what state you reside in. Even Massghanistan doesn't make you fill out a 4473 for cap and ball guns.
@@dariuswhite2543 Yes you can.
Link doesn't work anymore. Just in case you're not aware.
"not as powerful as a normal handgun" and yet thousands upon thousands of people worldwide were killed by revolvers like that
and he's pointing it at his face right out of the box without any inspection... :D
These 44 cal revolvers can shoot as powerful as 44 special with appropriate black powder load. With smaller load its more like 380 acp.
@Vladimir Putin he carried 2 1851 navy’s in 36 cal much smaller than the 44 in the video he killed many with it
@@samuelevinti I mean it doesent come loaded but you should always treat a firearm as if it’s loaded but in his defense it’s not a fire arm not legally but it is I got one for myself
They also didn’t have hospitals lmao but I get what your saying
FYI a .44 cal cap and ball revolver with 28 grains of black powder has roughly the equivalent knock down power as a modern .380 auto.
the .36 caliber maybe yes but the .44 is definitely not as weak as a .380
he said he learning as he goes lol. well buddy you got alot more to learn. blackpowder guns are just as,if not more so deadly
You have no idea how right you are. I didnt even pay black powder any attention when I started shooting. Years and years and disgusting amounts of firearms later...I finally tried one out and they are so much fun. Incredibly cheap to operate. It's the "roll your own" of shooting sports.
Ummm not powerful? I brought down a 250 lbs hog at 75 yards with a 44 bp revolver
👍🏻👍🏻
COOL
@Kommander Rahnn lol
A .44 loaded with black powder has the same kinetic energy as a .38 Special loaded with +p rounds.
More than effective enough!
I use 30grains of pyrodex as a max load from a 7.5"barrel at 30' and blow straight threw treated 4×4s.
Rips the whole back out of treated 2×4s..i have no doubt it would kill a high of any size if close enough
I'm talking 10yrds though.
I bought one from Cabelas (I think) Turned out to be one of.. the best I’ve owned. Never a jam. Load it full with Tallow-only over top. Make my own sorta cartridge. Girly papers- powder n ball with little lube balls wrapped in same. Awesome shooter and power. Tarnished per Blackie Thomas. Dig it! Can’t miss at 25 and under as fast as I can go. 1k plus! (Slaps guy with mic)
lol yeah use a .44 to hunt squirrels....
or whats left of them
s r Aim for the head.
People use the .32 cal version for squirrels actually
Fucking assholes stop killing them poor animals
I just use a 308
@@ARR-gg3tq fucking idiot we have to eat and I guarantee you eat things that have been killed
$140 is an excellent deal, last year Cabelas had the same brass framed 1851 far $200. They had the 1860 for steel frame for $265. I got both of them
agree with the thousand other people that just challenged your theory that 44bp is not powerful.aside from the many you tubers who demonstrate their power,think about the fact that this handgun conquered the American west.modern guns weren't available till about 1870.so this pistol did plenty of high quality killing in some real violent affairs.
When people with those guns went to the "American West" it was already conquered and those Indians could speak Spanish and they would go to the church every Sunday... Don't watch Hollywood shit
Well said
I am a civil war reenactor I portray both sides and it is a great side arm but needs to be cleaned well
So do our muskets
Bru
This fantasy "reproduction" model would never be approved for serious reenactments.
Well la-de-da!
2:18 "squirrels and pest on the yard"????
No way!! This firearm is as loud and powerful as a modern gun.
You're right about the ram rod. It's not supposed to be blued. It's case hardened but most people tend to overlook that fact. Very nice review though!
Interesting fact, you don't need to patch this if you're using slightly oversized ammo. There are .454, .451, and .433 sized bullets for this. They all fit in the gun, but the .454 and .451 are ever so slightly bigger than the cylinder so when packing them in they themselves create a tension seal from being squished, eliminating the need for a patch.
NONE of these revolvers use a patch.
You use round balls that are pure lead and bigger than the bore. They "self swage" when you use the rammer to load.
You have a gay pride username
I have an old (1983) Pietta cap-n-ball revolver, 1851 Navy (Reb) in .44 cal. (engraved cylinder) I know the originals were only .36 cal. Mine was purchased thru Gander Mountain, paid less than $50 including shipping. I lived in Brooklyn then. Try that now. Living in upstate New York (or anywhere in NY) you need a pistol permit to shoot a cap-n-ball revolver. It's ok to own a black powder gun just not shoot it. Go figure.
This is one of the cheapest black powder pistols you can buy but mine does shoot well. Heck I had it 34 years and still works fine. If you ain't sure you're gonna like the whole black powder thing this is a good starter. Not the BEST but it won't break the bank. Happy Trails.
@UnEqual Reality, yes really. I've had this gun for 36 years. I think they now sell for $150+, maybe more. Mine has naval battle scenes engraved on the cylinder.
@UnEqual Reality, not sure. Better check your local state gun laws. I live in NYS and called the Pistol Permit number for the State Police. I think these might even be illegal in NYC now without a gun permit, not in 1983 when I bought mine while living in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. Current NYS law says if you don't have the powder to fire it it's legal to own even with caps and balls (bullets). Think you need a pistol permit to buy black powder in NYS. Hope this was helpful.
@UnEqual Reality, sad that although people can commit a felony when younger, they are prohibited from firearm ownership. If their crime wasn't violent and they served their time why not allow gun ownership, at least on a case by case evaluation?? Good advice?? Don't break the law and ruin your future life possibilities. Just sayin'.
schweet,There's a reason when you view old pics from the civil war or after that many soldiers whether Blue or Grey only had 1 arm or 1 leg or half a leg, a lead ball or conical bullet usually shattered the bone so field hospitals just whacked them off and you were left with a stub or well you get the picture,these guns are not for amatuer's they are very real and very capable of making your next life job supervisor of a worm farm,always exercise caution and safe gun practice,good luck and happy shooting
Wow. I can’t believe you got that for $150. Today, the lowest I’ve ever found one is about $275
Where did you get the idea that these guns are not powerful? These .44 revolvers have about the same muzzle energy and velocity as a .45acp if you upgrade to the Colt Walker or similar revolver, and the same bullet weight. Only when you get into the .45acp+p does it start to be more powerful than a .44 black powder.
Since I've never shot one of these before, I did some research online and watched a bunch of reviews. A lot of reviewers say the Black Powder just doesn't have the velocity as modern day ammunition and that they wouldn't trust the rounds with their lives. Maybe you've heard and tested differently? Thanks!
lignod.com/ammo.htm This link has a general ballistics chart that includes various black powder revolvers. The interesting part is that a 250 gr. bullet out of the Walker is actually on par with a standard .45 Long Colt load, which is pretty similar to .45 acp. It seems in general, when you're dealing with larger caliber rifle and handgun bullets, the black powder isn't as much of a difference from smokeless as you would think in velocities, because a heavier, slower bullet seems to cater better to the slow-burning properties of BP. I have just recently got into the black powder stuff too, so I've been doing a lot of research on ballistics, and, I have to say, I would consider using my Pietta 1858 .44 as my sidearm when hunting, etc. Although they are obviously not as reliable as a .45 centerfire, they get the job done, and the 1858 has safety notches on the cylinder so you can load up all 6 without setting the hammer down on a cap.
and if you wanna get real power use a conical bullet. these can outperform 45. acp by a margin. the walker is a beast. ive seen some balistics gel tests with 1858 where it created explosive shockwaves in the gel.
ua-cam.com/video/fg5lC9DXkSA/v-deo.html Hey this guy does a good job of getting real world energy tests for black powder revolvers and even gives modern equivalents, and they're just as lethal now as they were in the civil war. --Hope it helps
People who doubt the effectiveness of these revolvers should go to the book store or library and check out some Civil war history. Get a look at the battlefield photographs of after the various skirmishes.A lot of shooters held on to their cap&ball six-shooters well after the appearance of the 'shell bangers'.
Get a paper cartridge kit. It makes loading out in the field a lot easier and it is also historically correct as well.
You dont know much about old revolvers do you? This IS a firearm by every definition. Extremely powerful.
He's referring to the fact they're not legally firearms.
Legally speaking it’s not a firearm. Just a deadly weapon
K W Someone left a comment saying that he caught a felony and now carries a black powder gun. I guess he’s done his homework to prevent being charged as a felon in possession of a firearm. I wasn’t aware that black powder guns were classified as “not a firearm.” How many other people know this is a law or regulation? I never knew this until after reading the comments on this video.
I learned something new today. 🤔👍🏽
I learned more than simply how to disassemble this .44 black powder. Good video...
Virginia Paddler Black powder guns aren’t considered firearms by the ATF, and as a result can be shipped to your house without need of a licensed dealer as a middleman, hence why things like Traditions brand musket kits remain popular for reenactors
Not a firearm in the eyes of uncle Sam is what he is referring to.
Just got one for Christmas. Thanks for the review even though it's old, it helps a lot.
Great review. I had one of the same by Cabela but a blank firer so I can recommend the quality and relate the the weight!
DUDE YOUR FUCKIN NUTS THEY KILLED GRIZ WITH THESE.
I use mine all the time they are powerful and for the most part reliable unless your cap didn’t ignite then at the worst slap another cap on and go they are fairly accurate best thing I can tell you is try it out and give another review and I always carry six shots and put the hammer in between the caps on the notch
The loading lever is properly color case hardened I once had a Navy arms imported version it was accurate and reliable
I’m still studying. These pistols are awesome. I’m gonna get one soon.
I’ve studied the videos.
These things are hand cannons. 😊🇺🇸
I like how you pointed it right in your face. That's a good habit to get into. 👍🏻
😂👍
Thanks. I got one for my son for Xmas and had no idea how to work it. Was curious about that take down slider, I thought it was installed improperly but yours looks exactly like mine. Also thanks for the split cylinder safety, good to know info. Definitely going from here to your firing video because I need the loading procedure and accessories list
Beautiful gun!
Pietta has so many models that ain't a real choppy of any real models,and you need too be careful as it is deadly,thanks for the video,FUN STUFF
Gotta love the US: $149.00 for a nice replica like that. I tell you, if I lived there I'd be owning one. Unfortunately in Canada you have to get a special licence just to buy one let alone do anything with it.
Get rid of Ballet Boy and your Communist Politicians.
I have the same gun. So much fun to shoot. You do have to keep these babies super clean though after each trip to the range.
these are on sale right now at Cabelas for $149
No
@@randomguy822 dang looks like we missed that great deal. Maybe wait till black Friday, do they really require no ffl?
@@Latinos4Trump yes
@@Latinos4Trump not a firearm
Fuck cabela's!! They don't even ship anymore.
I have a older version that was produced for CVA by pietta 44 cal it doesn't have the safety notch like your version so best to cary on a empty chamber . Purchased mine at a pawn shop who ever owned it before stripped all the bluing off or it was a kit in the raw unblued.
Did you have to sign for it?
I have the same pistol and I dig that the rod is more unfinished. It gives it a somewhat petina appearance.
Imagine the guy who defends himself in public with this thing.
I love historical firearms I think I am going to pick this up thank you for the video!
Can I put a longer barrel on it?
I'm getting about 1000 to 1100 fps with my NMA and 900 to 1000 with my 1860 using lee 200 grains conicals...not powerful enough?
I prefer 3000fps
I carry a 1860 army with 45 colt cylinder carried the blackpowder cylinder for a long time never let me down i have had it under water and it still fire
I just bought one of these for way too much money. I failed to buy one a few years ago when they were still reasonably priced.
Got one given to me 20+ years ago as a gift. Haven't shot it in a while but it's still a cool gun.
Don't dry fire and only load 5 chambers and leave the hammer sit on a empty. If that big hammer gets hooked on something and released the gun will go off on a full chamber shooting you in the leg.
I dry fired for fun when I got it I fucked up ?
@@Pirategod23 Check the nipples and see if they were crushed any. If so they screw out and can be replaced.
I want to get into black powder pistols soon. I think it would be fun. dirty but fun.
what size lead balls do you load in it?
Beautiful weapon.
I have this exact gun. My father in law got it for me. Ive shot the crap out of it. Its super fun. And I love the natural patina mine has gotten from shooting it.
Just make sure to clean it. And the chambers and bore. They're dirty!
But great fun pieces.
Also the ram rod is supposed to be like that, as you mentioned. Mine is beautiful.
I have 3 extra cylinders so i load on a drill press using a 1/4" drive bit in the chuck, It's got a level deck with soft wood below the cylinder. Wait to put the caps on until at the range. Speed-loader !
Can you let me know how they're holding up? I need a clone the ones family "heirlooms" handed down are not safe but even if they were I'd rather not shoot,take outside,range.etc thanks for your help if you can help. Would you had bought the more expensive version comes? Love black powder! Right on!!
I'm not The poster but the cylnder spring is a bit weak and breaks easily and the brass frame wears and loosens the barrel but I've also put over a thousand rounds through mine
Anthony Tuggle I’ve put a good 900 rounds through mine in the past 6 months with proper cleaning and the right amount of powder it should last a life time. Happy trails
I've been looking around and trying to figure out if those would take a cylinder conversion in .44 mag or .44 spc
Not in the Brass Frame and only in 45ACP or 45 Long Colt using all Lead Bullets and Cowboy Load Pressures.
Or If you get a 36. Cal the conversion is 38. Special
It's a thing of beauty
Always use "bore butter" (crisco works) unless you want multiple cylinders firing at once.
And .44 black powder pistols are quite powerful.
Only way you get a chain fire from the cylinder end is by using under sized projectiles.
Chain fires come from the cap end by using incorrect size cap/nipple or losing a cap while firing.
Lube over the ball is used to keep fouling soft for extended shooting sessions and makes cleanup easier.
@@karlt8233 Paul Harrell did a test without caps on either side and no chain fires. That is a myth. Chain fires come from front of cylinder.
@@timvest8141 If the ball/bullet is undersized or chamber is oblong and leaves a gap between cyinder/ projectile then it could come from chamber end. A sealed chamber is not likely to loose its seal from a properly sized ball/conical.
A missing cap or ill fitting cap leaves an open/partially open chamber with direct access to the powder charge. Watch a slow motion video of a cap n ball revolver going off and you will see how explosive the nipple end really is when fired.
TBH chain fires are not that common, been shooting muzzleloaders since 1977 and have never had one nor have I met anyone that has. Spent 20 years reenacting and competition shooting in N-SSA events so have met hundred of guys that shoot them weekly like I do and none have ever had a chain fire.
@@karlt8233 we will just have to agree to disagree. Colts revolvers were designed with this in mind. When that hammer hits the cap it seals around it except where it is supposed to direct the pressure to the botto m of the cap. Like I said Paul Harrell has an excellent video explaining and showing this. Have a good evening.
Black powder is pretty powerful and you can take a deer easily with it. The revolvers also have serial numbers and many folks do put them on permits to carry for hunting, ect. People seem to ditch black powder and underestimate it's ability. The reason it's not recommended for self defense is because the caps can be lose and not seated properly which will cause a failure to fire. If you are in a gunfight, you don't want that to happen. It can be used for self defense but not recommended due to that reason. It's not a cap gun! It's an actual firearm but considered an antique firearm reproduction thus no need for a FFL.
You should put some kind of grease on the end of the cylinder unless you are using a felt wading that is greased between your lead and your powder. And use tight fitting caps to prevent chain firing. And if you are new leave one cylinder empty and put the hammer on that one. And just after each shot point the firearm up so the used cap if lose falls free of the action. Now remember it is a real firearm that most people don’t have a clue about.
how much did you get it for?
Nice Revolver......for $140.00 dollars.....
If you live in Canada it will cost you $350.00 same gun
All black powder guns in Canada have restricted status / same like any hand guns in Canada , they are under the same category......It's very sad......
I JUST posted this....at $149, if I lived in the US I'd have one just for shits and giggles....this would fall under the RPAL.
even if you have one of the most primitive pistol like the matchlock or a wheellock canada thinks that they're the devil
LMAO even in france you can buy it for 225€ (250US$) and it's unrestricted and you don't need to register it, you just need to be over 18yo
sorry no such gun ever existed. A pure fantasy gun that is fun to shoot.
the lever isnt blued because it is case hardened
Cabela's in Texas is ship to store
I think the colt dragoon is the best 44 bp revolver because it matches roughly the same power as 45 lc standard pressure so it really dose the most with its caliber without being a walker.
Anybody know if they can be into the UK
Thank you
I have the NORTH series 1 of 1000 and I wonder if pietta made a SOUTH series to match. Anybody know?
357bullfrog Apparently they did i have a old catalogue from 2008 from a company called Deer Creek Products that sell black powder weapons ,supplies,and accessories their still in business from waldron Indiana they carried a north and south version in 2008.They sold as a set for 369.00 back then dont know if they still carry them .Not sure they were piettas though . Here is the phone number 1-765-525-6181 You can probably order a catalog or they may have web site.
So high tech, it doesn't even need plastic.
I find them absolutely gorgeous!
Would you check out the one I’m making? It’s a non-firing replica just for displaying in my wall
I beg to differ you still have a .44 caliber projectile if you load the powder charge right it’s just as deadly as any pistol
The rod and hammer are case hardened not blued that's why it looks that way
Where did you buy that 1851 Confederate Navy 140 dollars
The loading lever (and hammer) are color case hardened, which is why they look like that.
Some States like Illinois where I live they will not ship it to You.
they will if you pay for fedex or ups etc
I have one and it is fun to shoot, if you don't use heavy loads. The brass frame is inferior to a steel frame and could eventually stretch if you do.
But, it is a "fantasy" revolver, not a replica of any actual historically produced weapon. No "Navy" was ever a .44 cal. All Navy revolvers were .36 cal.
How will the brass frame stretch?
Cant find this revolver in stock ANYWHERE
Check Uberti or Pietta's websites
Try midway
The pusher rod is made a harder metal than the barrel. That's why the blue will not take the blue as well. If it were the same metal as the barrel, it would bend when loading.
I bought one of these cant get that clip to come out fot nothing
@@theprodigaltrue are you talking about the wedge?
This guy needs to do his homework.
But you don't say why or what needs to be improved. You add nothing at all useful.
always use bore butter or an ox yoke lubed wonder seal. it seasons the bore nicely and helps with clean up. for not being an expert you sure try to sound like one.
Hello On my 1851 pietta I have 3 dog positions, 1: semi-armed, 2: semi-armed (barrette and trigger blocked) and 3: armed
I'm french i'dont speak english very well...
Nice gun
The brass triggergaurd indicates that it is a Griswald and Gunnison replica which was a copy of the colt
Wrong.
@Tom Smith But just because it has a brass triggerguard doesn't mean it's a G&G copy.
Nice dude I just bought mine right now. Let's see how it is when it's here. Costed (with 100 caps and balls) 316 dollars. I'll have to buy the powder separately and the little bits and bobs because of hazmat regulations but you know, Amazon. Course this set me back so I'll be selling all my airsoft stuff.. but it's okay, I'm learning as an adult I don't have time to have fun anyways but this little toy should bring me some comfort and joy in the collapsing state of American law and order
Bought I 2 weeks ago 300 bucks today.
Replica of a Griswold & Gunnison revolver made in Georgia. .36 caliber ball was made until Sherman's march to the sea.
What diameter balls does it shoot?
WRONG. .451 is correct....454 and .457 put too much strain on the rammer. As long as the ball shaves a ring when you load it, you're good. It's a good idea to measure the chamber mouths first to determine which size ball to use, but all my Pietta .44s use .451
$150 was a steal 👌
what kinda box does cabelas ship it in?
Just a normal brown packaging box
I’m actually about to go to cabalas and buy one as soon as the next paycheck gets in gonna get the 1851 pietta confederate navy but I’m gonna try to get 36 cal but if it’s more expensive I’ll just get the 44 but I don’t know I might just get the 44 cause it’s bigger and the more lead you got the bigger the animal you can take down I’m lookin at you deer ha no just kidding but seriously though I’m gonna get one they are cool I was gonna get the 1860 but the sale ended so I’m just gonna get the 1851
Sux these r cap and ball im sure this can be modded to take cartridges which would make this better
In some aspect it's a toy for target shooting or its your sport pistol only for recreational events.Always treat the gun loaded.
Tell that to the people who fought the civil war with this.
@@IceAge20017 obviously you cant tell the because there dead dummy
@@purpleguy5226 That was his exact point dUmMyy
@@humbledassholesent6661 r/whoosh
To see this video one would think you were reviewing a BB gun or airsoft toy.
These Italian firearms are almost exact copies of the original guns that laid the foundations of what became the USA. The main difference being that the metallurgy of these modern replicas is far superior to that available to the genuine firearms of the day.
Not a real firearm? So much tosh spoken in less than ten minutes.
Barnaby Wild he means " legally" it isn't classified as one
It legally isnt a firearm, it's considered an other than weapon
@UnEqual Reality Yeah, at five or six times the cost...IF you can find one.
Anyone know the legality of having one of these in England?
I have a deactivated 36 navy from 1985. A fully functional one is perfectley legal with the relevant firearms certificate and black powder licence which is free of charge. You need to be a member of a registered gun club for at least 3 months to apply for a certificate along with a gun safe and seperate secure storage for the powder and ammunition.
Quick look at what ur reviewing would have gave u more info it's brass bc the south had limited steel and had to use brass
Lucky, that pin just popped right out for you mines tight as shit
Yeah for real I destroyed my thumbnail I don't know how he got that just like that?
Did cabellas ship it to your house?
Yep, it's not considered a "firearm"
@@GearKnowHow thanks, just bought one today.
We bought from midway
Thanks for the out of the box review.
I got the gun I’m trying understand it’s features
The loading levers came from the factory this way.
Hey Outdoor Enthusiast. I subbed. I am into the percussion revolver type of firearms and you are pretty spot on. The "Confederate Navy" was my first handgun. Unfortunately, the brass frame will eventually stretch over time. I didn't fire mine enough to do that but it was a trusty hunting sidearm for me. A good 44 caliber load will be about as powerful as a well loaded 38 Special, that is unless you went to a big Dragoon or Walker revolver, that is.
mark3smle my brass frame have zero stretch after ove five thousand hot rounds put through it. I think that is an old wives tale
i agree on the "old wives tale", I've had and fire mine now for 40+ years, no stretching whatsoever, and I tend to shoot both the 138 gr round ball but also the 200 gr Semiwascutter.
IF YOU DONT USE MORE THEN 25 GRAIN'S,DONT WORRY TO MUCH ABOUT THE BRASE STRECHING IN TIME.IT WILL LAST A LOT LONGER THEN SOMEONE USING 30,OR 40 GRAIN'S.
That's actually lite for a black powder colt style pistol.
You must seal each chamber with some sort of grease. It reduces fowling and the risk of chain fires.
Believe it or not it's the ball size that reduces chain fire not the grease the grease just gets blown out of the neighboring chamber's with each shot when you see the ball the thicker the LEad ring the better gas seal you get
Never Mind!
Can anyone tell me if these are made by ANY manufacturer in
DOUBLE - ACTION
?????????????????
No
Heavy, hence the term "pull your Irons".