8 Passengers Ruby Franke Situation Got WORSE
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- 8 Passengers Ruby Franke Situation Got WORSE. 8 Passengers co worker Jodie Hildebrant Responded And It's DREADFUL... after 8 passengers ruby franke was arrested and the 8 passengers channel and 8 passengers videos were removed, ruby franke's coworker has made a response... Jodie 8 passengers homophobia was leaked...
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Jodi Hildebrant disgusts me. I have ptsd from severe medical trauma that was outside of my control. The idea that someone like her especially who is a therapist tells people they have contol over their trauma is disgusting. As someone who grew up Mormon myself as well i find it all particularly disturbing and close to home. Unfortunately i think a lot of abuse goes unnoticed in Mormon communities because Mormons tend to try and ignore the evils happening right under their nose. I had a friend who went thru similar punishments like these poor kids including losing her bedroom as a punishment and it left her deeply traumatized. I hope Jodi and Ruby go to prison for a very longtime. Absolutely evil women.
My heart goes out to you more than you know. 🌹🍏🐎
Imagine having the black/east Indian version of Ruby as your mom.
Yes. Jodi is equally abhorrent as Ruby. The kids were living in her house, she had the ultimate say in what happened under her roof. I notice Jodi doesn't seem to have skipped any meals while she allowed children to be starved in her own home.
@kathyscott9219 that burn tho
@@thiccredgyal3404- My heart breaks for you and for anyone who grew up with this type of parent. Both my parents are long gone, but I’m
still thankful every day that they did the best they could - with very little money, but with an overabundance of love. The older I get, the more I realize how very lucky I was.
"You chose to be subjected to that trauma." What she's saying is that you didn't "obey" her. You didn't let her control you. You resisted. Therefor you "Chose" whatever sick torture she inflicts upon you. I want to vomit. Those poor kids.
I wonder what would happen if someone slapped her across the face and told her "you chose that slap in the face because you resisted the truth and spewed shit that made others want to slap the piss out of you". 🤔
For the record, I do not condone violence, just speaking hypothetically.
The thing is mormons believe their version of god is loving and fair. But their god abuses his children, he abuses people and calls it love. So when they abuse their children they genuinely don't see it as abuse, they see it as fair and loving. They see themselves as someone who is becoming more like god, which is a major goal for most members, to become more like god... who in they see as perfect, just and loving... but is in fact an abusive narcissist.
its so twisted to give a child the ultimatum of obey *and enjoy* it or be punished to whatever insane degree.
@@khaleesireyna731honestly neither I nor many other people would mind if this somehow became reality.
Yes. This goes WAY beyond "natural consequences" of a child's behavior. This is torture, pure and simple.
I was born into mormonism and was raised by a narcissist much like Ruby and Jody. My narcissistic mother was also super homophobic, which trickled down to me. I know it's a cliché that super homophobic people are actually closeted queers, but it was absolutely true for me (imagine hating yourself for 50 years). I was a horrible person until my own queer child helped me see that I was in a cult!
So glad you got out. Haven't been abused and I'm not Mormon but my mom doesn't believe in homosexuality and I'm still in the process of undoing the way I was raised.
Internalized homophobia
Thank goodness you got out of that mindset. It takes a lot of courage to change like that, especially when you have spent so many years with bad ideas and beliefs. Well done!
I got it from the Baptist church but luckily I only lasted until 20-ish hating myself. Could have been a lot worse.
You weren’t a horrible person. You were brainwashed. Be kinder on yourself and your inner child. 🫶🏽
Please be careful stating Jodi was the puppet master over Ruby. Ruby was guilty of abuse prior to Jodi entering the picture. Ruby exploited her children for money and fame, shared their hardest moments for millions of people, withheld food as punishment, etc all before Jodi. I see a lot of people saying Jodi was the puppet master and yeah, Jodi definitely made things worse and was a horrible influence but Ruby was abusive all on her own.
I fear Ruby's lawyers will use this as an excuse to get Ruby less punishment / time in prison (that Jodi was a bad influence and Ruby was innocent beforehand). If too many people back up this online, her lawyers can even show the public supports this idea and potentially sway the jury. The public's opinion has more weight than it should with juries. Personally, I think we should be careful not to push this idea but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Ruby was exploitative and abusive from the start. Let's not forget that. The signs were always there.
P.S. I love your content. Thank you for the updates.
The eldest daughter has been collecting clips from the youtube channel so hopefully there will be stuff to back up that ruby is horrible because she literally filmed herself being horrible.
Ruby was an abuser long before Jodi! Jodi just validated her…
You are absolutely right!
lol they can’t use people’s “comments” in a trial.
@@Lyssa0095not directly, but a lawyer can certainly use it to paint that idea and show that a lot of people think that way.
I'm honestly more scared of Jodie than I am of Ruby
For sure Jodi was the one “in charge” and she was using Ruby’s already warped thoughts and her following online to further her own agenda.
Because Jodi is a cult leader and ruby is just a blind follower.
Oh my God I'm terrified of Jodie...
I think they need to find her client list and investigate to see if they are abusing their children.
Jodi is the cult leader wannabe.
The fact this woman truly thinks that you can just ignore trauma is absolutely insane. After being sexually assaulted, and trying to ignore and push away that trauma for years, it just comes back. It rears its ugly head and completely destroys you once you've found some semblance of peace. They just seem to be preserving years of cyclical abuse under the guise of faith
Society often embraces the notion that happiness is a choice and you can "push through" - it fuels stigma against the mentally ill.
Ignore jodi and Ruby's advice. All of it. They know absolutely NOTHING about ANYTHING.
oh but remember. according to them, you’re also responsible for your assault that you had no choice in. i’m so sorry this happened to you and i hope you don’t take their horrible words to heart.
as someone who is traumatized due to quite a bad SA experience from about a year ago i definitely didn't choose to do it to myself. i hope jodie gets life in jail.
Please remember how strong you were to survive the horrors you did. Baby, if no one else ever says it to you, I'm crying for you and I want you to know how sorry I am that your beautiful soul had to walk that road ! ❤❤❤❤❤
I’m so deeply sorry. Sadly there are still backward thinking fundamentalist that have no clue.
much love to you 💙 i wish you all the best and a ton of healing.
What happened to you was not ok and there is not a single thing you should have done differently ❤ the only person responsible for hurting you is the person who did that.
Please treat your body and mind with all of your kindness and compassion 🤗 you deserved better, and even though you didn’t ask for this challenge, you deserve to have your sense of safety back. They won’t take your life away from you. You’re stronger than they are.
You’re so strong. It can be very hard at times but just remember you’re not alone with your troubles, you have people who have been through the same thing and support you ❤
Another major note...
No, people don't choose to put themselves in harm's way. We never decided to go "oh hey, let me go to that place. I'll be (insert trauma of any kind)."
Insinuating that someone chosen to be abused and be in a place to be abused is horrific.
All she is doing is enabling abusers to blame their actions on their victims. For her, victims are an inconvenience that needs to be silenced.
What about the trauma she put those kids through?! She herself and their mother put them through it, they didn’t choose it!😡
@@jeanspeer4053 my comment goes for everyone, including her kids. They don't deserve kids after everything they've done.
Right
Right? Like, I didn't ask to be born to my family. Those poor kids. I really feel for them.
Unfortunately, the things that she and Ruby say about lgbtq+ rape, being a victim of abuse, etc. Have been taught for over 100 years by the Mormon church. I was a member for 40+ years, so I know what I'm talking about.
And same for evangelical Christianity. The similarities are more than the differences I would say. Too many people like this out here being awful and abusing kids.
And what’s makes it worse is that these are the same people saying lies about drag queens and lgbtq+ being p3d0s and groomers.
When the reality is, they’re not (majority and MOST are NOT) and what they’re doing is a SIN cause they’re LYING and make false shxt just to burn them even more and take away their rights. And apparently it’s to “protect” children when in reality, it is not. They just don’t like lgbtq+ people and that’s it.
If it was for the children, they would’ve focus more on shxt like this ^^^ and actually make laws to protect all children (especially from the church) but instead they’re wasting their money, time and energy on LGBTQ+ people and drag queens when they’re not even doing anything. They’re just standing there breathing trying to live a peaceful life and then these people goes and ruins that (I think those people are the real d3mons sent by the d3vil himself to spread more hatred cause who on earth that praises Jesus and god would every say or do shxt like that????!!!!!!!!) that’s just nasty
@@not_you_i_dont_even_know_youbut hey. In the church setting it may actually be true. Just consider the amount of sexual trauma that happens in these spaces……. Someone could grow to detest anyone who reminds them of their abuser. And I couldn’t blame them. In this case though it’s these “pastors” and “counselors” that would be to blame 😑. I say we listen to their theory and ask questions 🧐😂
@@allthatsheizi’m Christian, and at a church i used to go my sister met a boy at youth group. turns out this guy was horrible, he tried/did horrible things against my sister and when she told our pastor about it, he did nothing. his wife would look at my sister almost in disgust, as if she had done something wrong, and was always so rude to her. safe to say a lot of people left that church after that. it’s so sad. i love Jesus, and i love being Christian, but the amount of abuse that goes on in churches is something that is REAL and has to be acknowledged. my heart just breaks for these kids and anyone who’s experienced something like this :/
so if it’s taught in the church and mormonism is a religion, all mormons believe lgbt+ are ‘evil’ insert whatever term there- is it safe to say that The Followers of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints are taught this and i should only trust Ex-Mormons? (as an openly queer +trans person)
It’s absolutely rich that Jodi labels herself as an expert in relationships and parenting yet she has children who want NOTHING to do with her? That’s pretty damn telling. There is a reason why that is, oh gee because she’s probably a complete monster. Any parent that goes to that horrible woman should have their children removed into protective custody smh
Jodie is terrifying and there’s definitely a folie au deux dynamic between her and Ruby where they reinforce each other’s beliefs and justify their abusive behavior
A perfect description.
can’t stand them, i can’t believe people that genuinely horrible have gotten away with it for so long
It's because most people are genuinely horrible. The fact that people watched her channel is very telling.
Being religious gives you a free pass. It's automatically assume you are good while everyone else has to prove it.
Those people are completely mental, you should love your kids no matter whatever their sexual orientation or gender identity is.
Exactly. It doesn't matter what you believe that is your child. You don't have to agree with it to be loving and try to understand. Ppl make it so difficult to give love when in the case of your child it's really not that difficult. Unless you're ruby ig 🙄
My daughter worried when she came out. Her S orientation didn't change her, or who she was. I don't understand "parents" that can just turn away.
We're to love, not judge.
@@GrannySmith123 I know where you're coming from, my daughter worried about coming out to the religious zealots in my family. I told her if they couldn't accept, love and respect her for who she is they wouldn't be welcome in our home.
@@GrannySmith123my mom told me that I was a pain in the ass before and after I came out love her for that
@@GrannySmith123exactly they're your children supposed to protect them no matter what are they any different than from the day before you found out probably not
My mom has been in the mental health field for over 20 years and she’ll tell you the therapists and counselors are some of the most crazy people. She has only met a handful that she could trust and would ever call if she needed services. It’s definitely a field that’s hard to find someone who is actually good at their job.
That is SO true. A lot of them use their title & abuse the power it has to push their own agenda onto their patients. 💀
Yeah and I’ve met some who are very toxic people and go around criticizing others , while showing no emotional intelligence it’s truly wild.
That is so true, I had one tummy that I was the one that was crazy oh, I've had one that told me that it was my fault. My current therapist it's not working through over 50 years of trauma and abuse because I couldn't find the right one. My daughter went into the field because she saw how hard it was for me to find a good therapist
@FabiolaMacabre seriously, I've had someone who said they're a therapist look at my bio where I list my MH issues to raise awareness and told me to get on meds 😂when I said I was on anti psychotic, they said I should be on a stronger dose. They also ridiculed clients they have and complained about them being, in their words, "annoying"
Yep, thought after decades or garbage therapists i thought i found a good one who turned out to just be lying throufh their teath at every session. Grift...caputalism has broken our minds. $$$ literally over evwrything.
Imagine being born into a family that abuses you and you hear Jodi say “you put yourself in harms way for whatever reason” 🥺
As someone with PTSD, she can go jump in the lake.
Imagine being her patient when she was working as a therapist 🥲
My mom used to tell me I chose her as a parent to absolve herself of any responsibility for the abuse she put me through.
Absolutely CRAZY.....
I developed PTSD after 6 major surgeries in a row, but yeah I put myself in harm's way and then I decided to be a victim. She's NUTS! It took three years of therapy to get rid of the symptoms. She's a shrew.
So children who are @bused put themselves through that trauma?That is the sickest thing I’ve heard.
The CPTSD these children will almost definitely experience breaks my heart. The damage these women have done to these kids is absolutely horrible.
Abuse is eternal
I grew up extremely religious. My moms a social worker/ therapist, and is about to go get a phd. Her views have shifted over the years but she went to a Christian University, and now that both of her kids have came out as queer is when she’s starting to look into some of these outlandish views in American culture and religion. She has just been in such a sheltered area for so long, that understanding these things is still difficult for her. It’s sadly not surprising to me this happened.
I’m genuinely horrified by both Ruby and Jodie. While Ruby terrifies me a lot, it’s even more horrifying that these 2 worked together to abuse children and spread their crazy beliefs to other people. It’s just insane and disgusting to me. I’m just glad the children are safe and I truly hope they’ll get the help they need.
She's gonna know all about distortion when another inmate finds out what she did and performs a little origami with her spine. Jailbirds don't like people who are in for hurting kids.
Your comment took me out!
Her: you choose to be traumatized
My PTSD: oh sorry, I guess we’ll see ourselves out then 🤷🏻♀️😂
her saying no one teaches abstinence anymore is crazy when utah, which is run by mormons, is literally an abstinence only education state💀
Are you sure, do you live in Utah? I just moved out last year and I didn’t see that. The church sure teaches that and seminary classes do to. But not the state. There are non profit organizations like planned parenthood that teaches and provide contraceptive methods. Abortion is legal in Utah. Utah is like the Vatican of Mormonism but there are a lot of variety of different countries population.
@@eva32675I just checked the Utah board of education. They state that their sex education is abstinence based.
@@justine8387let me ask my kids what they had
@@justine8387 it says that schools are required to give sex education but they have to stress abstinence. Let me see what my kids reply back on what they had in school.
Q. Is Utah’s sex education instruction considered abstinence-only?
A. No. Utah’s sex education instruction is abstinence-based. Teachers are required stress the importance of abstinence from all sexual activity before marriage and fidelity after marriage as methods for preventing certain communicable diseases. Utah law allows instruction in the areas of contraception and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases. Specifically, allow instruction to include information about contraceptive methods or devices that stresses effectiveness, limitations, risks, and information on state law applicable to minors obtaining contraceptive methods or devices.
Yeah nothing good comes out of Utah tbh
“Cell phones will kill you spiritually”! As she’s waving around her personal iPhone in her hand 🙄
Normal parents police the internet because of groomers, predators and other serious dangers. I don't know what mental gymnastics these women are up to but it's beyond my understanding.
Also she gave him a phone at 15 girl trust me he knew before he used TikTok
@@randomgeekcrap She's not a millennial, she didn't grow up as the human guinea pig for social media so I doubt she actually realises the true danger, especially when she's a victim blamer.
This is the sad state of the American right wing right now and I’m terrified of it. They’ve gone from fiscal conservatism and big business to religious theocracy open bigotry. I could see any far right politician like Marjorie Taylor Greene saying this exact crap and being elected
To be fair both the extremist left and the extremist right are causing the downfall of society right now. It’s not one or the other it’s both who perpetrate toxic extreme views that should’ve never been encouraged in the first place. But to be fair everyone likes to blame everything on politics nowadays rather than trying to fix anything. I’m sure if we sit here and cry about how shit politics are nowadays it’ll make the problem disappear.
Also, it isn’t the conservatives it’s the right wing extremists just like the left wing extremists who are equally toxic horrific people.
She actually is a licensed therapist and college educated, she did have her license suspended for outting someone about their porn addiction to the Morman Temple without their permission, and then using their admission to it to guilt and manipulate them.
love that you're keeping us updated with this situation alex ❤️
As someone from Utah, we don't claim these two terrible people. I am as horrified by the things they say and do as everyone else. I really hope they go away for a long time and that Ruby's children have the time and safe space to start healing.
Jodi was (is) on churches recommended therapists list.
As someone who grew up in Utah but moved away when I was still in elementary school, leaving the culture of the Mormon church is how I've managed to be religious in any capacity.
I'm an active member of the church who is often seen as "the woke liberal" because I go to pride, go to happy hours with coworkers and believe that if Jesus was on the earth today, he'd be supporting social justice causes rather than shunning someone for being queer. I've had people "taddle" on me for buying beer at the grocery store before. I hate when the evangelical live laugh love hobby lobby Christians are the only ones people see because there are a lot of really great religious people who aren't batshit crazy cultists. Jodi and Ruby do not share the same God that I believe in. They need to rot in jail.
Jodi is a hypocrite. Clearly she has a thing for Ruby. It's giving toxic lesbian
Oh definitely gives repressed closeted lesbian psychopath vibes!
I swear I sent this on his one of his videos or somebody else's video. She isn't love and infatuated with ruby. So that's why she's rainwashed her and pulled her away. And is putting her children putting all that stuff about her children. Ruby's children in her head to have her all to herself.
I think they have actually done stuff. I don’t think it’s one sided. Of course…I’ve never been in a cult…maybe I’m reading too much into the living situation
Omg you are so right!!!! Ruby just stares at her with complete adoration and they were always sitting so close, holding hands, etc.
I couldn’t have even imagine things getting worse, thank you for keeping us updated.
My mom died from cancer when I was a kid, and Jodi would totally be the person who would say that my mom chose to her cancer, or that I chose to have my mom get sick and die. Good gravy, this woman is absolutely off her rocks🙄😑
I had “family” members who thought my daughters 3 decades of medical woes were because we weren’t good enough church goers and needed to pray harder. Then we became even “worse people” because we cut them out of our lives. They were also banned from my daughters Celebration of Life service after her death. Guess who is right wing conservative Republican extreme evangelicals? Oh and these are also some of the people who told me to “get over” my CSA and r*pe.
I talked just today with my therapist about my SA trauma, and what she said was that you ARE traumatized for the rest of your life. You can work to process it and learn to live with it, but there's always the potential of flashbacks coming back, of triggers coming back, slipping into dissociation, etc. This woman and her victim blaming propaganda disgust me.
I am a Christian (not that it matters I just felt the need to be honest) and I get so offended by people who speak down on how other people are and/or their life choices and then do things like oh...I don't know...abuse children. Also, there are people who do practice abstinence before marriage. Like sure it's not the "norm" today but it's out there enough that to claim "no one talks about it anymore" is absolutely ridiculous. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't stand it!!! People like this turn people away from religion and then wonder why. I. CANT.
I totally agree. When the first thing someone tells me is that they are a Christian, I cringe. I’m a Christian, but it is not my job to judge people or tell people how to live. I have enough of my own things to work on. Actions speak louder than words, be kind. Many of the most judgmental people I have met are hypocrites. For example, Jodie and Ruby have anti LGBT views. However, I would bet that those two are more than friends. Their body language with each other speaks volumes. This hypocrisy turns even religious people away from church and religion.
100% speaking truth.
Yeah…worse yet, the Bible says to only be concerned with the flock. Not those outside the flock and what they are or aren’t doing. In other words, they aren’t saved YET so there’s nothing to do there except pray for them. If they don’t have Jesus yet, why would you bash them? ….Even still, Jesus loves them as much as He loves you!
Being a Christian by no means makes someone a decent person.
Glad you're keeping up with this situation. It seems like people are trying to sweep it under the rug
How do you figure? Seems like every UA-camr and their mothers are covering this. Not only that, but it's international news now so I feel like it's more like the dirt is getting beaten out of said rug on the daily with the amount of coverage this is getting and it's well deserved! I'm happy that so many people are covering this, it's about damn time.
@@laurenp0958 the local police and cps. Considering how long it took for either to be arrested.
@@laurenp0958it’s like the Colleen Ballinger situation though. Every man and his dog covered it on UA-cam, but now no one does and I haven’t heard a thing on it. So it’s like people don’t care or forgot. 8 Passengers is different with the news coverage, but it’ll be like every other viral case. It’s forgotten in 6 months :/
@@laurenp0958agreed
What are you talking about? It’s international news, the national news is covering it, and there have been dozens and dozens of UA-cam videos made about it.
Can confirm, I never chose to be born in an abusive house, or groomed. Never filled out a flier or anything.
Help wanted: I, a child, need someone who is an adult to be responsible for me and to abuse and traumatize me. Serious inquiries only. Loving parents need not apply.
How it went down according to Jodi.
As someone who was also born into an abusive house and suffered SA from when I was a toddler, I'm sorry you went through so much pain and bullshit, I cant empathise fully because everyones experiences are different but I can empathise somewhat 💜 this person is beyond crazy to actually believe people, even kids, choose to be abused and traumatised from said abuse! Yes I chose to suffer I totally applied as a baby to suffer 🙄😒🙈 seriously twisted.
TikTok didn’t make me gay, but it sure did give me a hell of a lot of cute boys to look at. I propagated my own “homosexual lifestyle” by being born gay, lol. Beast Boy from Teen Titans was my gay awakening as a kid, and that was many many years before TikTok existed. It’s also funny to hear this from Jodi, who’s known for separating women from their husbands and then forming strange relationships with said women. Maybe these two really are just business partners and maybe Jodi really is just Ruby’s cult leader, but.. People who have secrets tend to overcompensate to keep those secrets. Many homophobes and transphobes that I’ve known usually end up just being very closeted, brainwashed, or scared queer people. It’s sad, but I can’t feel bad for people as deranged as these two.
Edit for anyone still seeing this: Jodi’s niece, Jessi, spoke out against Jodi on Mormon Stories and they did mention how Jodi said a few things that implied that she could possibly have had or wanted relations with women. I recommend it to anyone who hasn’t seen it, Jessi did a great thing for anyone who’s been abused in this way by sharing their experiences with their aunt and being open about what happened behind closed doors.
I don’t think they have a plutonic relationship.
I am bisexual too. I can tell you 100% it is not a choice. Who you are attracted to is not just a mental thing, it is a physical and unintentional thing. Put it this way, you can't make yourself 'have a boner' so to speak over someone just by choice if you aren't really attracted to them.
I dont think that woman has ever had sex where her and her partner both felt sexual attraction...so what you say is beyond her underatanding. She probably believes women dont really enjoy sex...it is a tool to make a man happy. Because she has never had sex with someone she was sexually attracted to and was also sexually attracted to her. Sex is not an act for a woman to enjoy, it is a way to manipulate a man, I am pretty sure us how she sees it.
Absolutely.
These people have no clue how much trauma they are CAUSING. The hypocrisy is just astounding. To shame someone for something they didn't choose, is ridiculous. They however, ARE making an active choice to shame, judge, abuse, and traumatize.
She’s genuinely horrible, I can’t believe that people actually though she was ok, like I can’t believe police were only just caught
what a surprise the police didn't notice the abuse from a middle class white family, even when it was posted publicly, this is definitely the first time this has ever happened! /j
I feel bad for her parents because they brought her up better than that
The Mormon church usually tells leaders to cover up abuse allegations, especially with famous Mormons to avoid bad PR. Most stake presidents and bishops (local leadership for their church) reach out to the church's legal team before reaching out to proper authorities. Often the church legal department advises them to deal with it in house because they believe Jesus's chosen leaders can heal abusers and the abused. It's incredibly fucked up and there's multiple videos about it online. This problem happened even with instances of pedophilia and is well documented.
@msshelley74 have her parents commented?
There’s a lot of weirdos on here who support other weirdos, the worst types of scummy people have fans. It’s WILD
the way those two women look at each other does strike me as very... intense, especially when you see them sitting next to each other
Listening to her talk about PTSD and SA makes me think about how my therapist responded when I told her all the traumatic things I have been through (including a very long, extensive history with SA in a lot of ways at a lot of ages). And more has happened since I had that therapist. So I think about her being baffled and I think about how Jodie would completely deny anything that I have been through and all the effects of that trauma. Like it's ridiculous that anyone would think that I chose ANY single one of my assaults. Usually it came down to trusting people (mostly *cough* men ) that I shouldn't have, and almost all of it is from under 18 for me. So, people are fucking ridiculous. And I dare her to look me or someone like me in the face and say that. I bet she wouldn't dare say this to someone intimidating that has been through the stuff she's diminishing,
Can we take Jody’s own words about choosing to put oneself in harm’s way and therefore being responsible for one’s own trauma…and play them back to her every morning of her prison sentence after she’s convicted? She deserves to choke on her own foul words. (I know conviction is a long way away, but I can dream!). Funny thing is, this would be one of the few instances where what she said fits!
Jodie thinks that you can choose not to feel your trauma, because she CAN. She's a psychopath and doesn't care that others exist in a different way and cannot choose to not feel or not feel certain things.
May this woman be judged as she has judged
I can’t wait for the 8th of this month to finally find out what the judge thinks about this it’s ridiculous and wrong on all levels
I have heard that the judge in this case is known for being hard on child abusers. Let’s hope that true. I believe most Mormons/LDS are totally disgusted by this, and will not try to excuse what these two horrible Mormons have done. If found guilty, they will be excommunicated.
@@lizlarsen1653 i hope to god they get what’s coming to them with this judge putting them in there place it’s been going on for to long they need locking behind bars for the rest of there life’s and I hope everyone in that prison bullies them in there and tortured them Aswell as harsh as it sounds they will have what’s coming to them
Someone who says a phone is more dangerous than a gun is so delulu she’s a danger to society. the poor people that are coming in contact with her in prison. they are so vulnerable I hope she isn’t able to start a new cult in prison and harm these people. Insaaaaaaane 🤯
I can see why the phone is more dangerous, cause she has a phone, and can spread her delulu ideas as facts... through the phone...
I cannot stop thinking about how she says “no one talks about abstinence only” as if it hasn’t scientifically proven to NOT WORK
HOW DOES THIS GET WORST?!
Exactly 💯 how did it take this long till someone did something (police cps)
I recently learnt that you don’t need a license to call yourself a therapist, but you do to call yourself a psychologist.
I guess people like this are an example of that.
Physical wounds can heal, the mental scars don't heal as easily. I hope that the kids will get the mental health support they need. It's been such a horrible ordeal for all of them.
Yes and like real world help. Not Mormon help
@@stephanievizzi9147 you're right. These kids need something that will let them express themselves and what they went through without fear. Mormon help is likely to cause more anxiety in them.
True, to the day, I still have nightmares about mi childhood that when I am awake/conscious I know I have resolved. The nightmares hurt as much as the reality did.
Abuse is eternal
yeah, the sad thing is, because this is in Utah, the people involved in helping the kids will be influenced by the religion, either members or non-members who are socially pressured to be accepting of their religioin and they will in all likelyhood be working with mormon social workers, mormon therapists and mormon police officers... None of who will be able to look at their sistuation subjectively - they see everything from their religious point of view because their religion is THE TRUTH in their eyes.
With the example about veterans, even those who signed up, received training, and accepted payment in return for being deployed, gain respect and recognition for having been through that. Which is just more reason as to why a person who didn't sign up or gain compensation for facing danger shouldn't be expected to just brush off trauma or told that it's their fault.
the funny thing about all those people that talk about gender confusion is that more often than not they 're the only ones confused because they just refuse to believe someone's lived experience anytime it doesn't fit their narrow mindset.
I have PTSD from an attacks from my ex and I'm so glad some people understand it's not us not letting go it's the trauma not letting go. I can't even sleep
I'll take my chances with a cellphone over a gun, Jodi.
I’ve always really appreciated how you talk about your queerness. Never any shame, just joy and honesty of living your truth 🥰love this for others to see and learn from
2:20 while she hold the new iPhone LMAO
Straight female here. Been enjoying Tic Tok for a couple years now. So far so good. 👍👍
That veteran video sounds heartbreaking. As a survivor of SA, I WISH I could just CHOOSE not to be traumatized. Lol. Life would be much easier!
Glad we are able to see these video despite them being deleted of UA-cam and IG
This women makes me sick Alex is the only thing that make it bearable (thanks Alex)
"Cellphones will kill you spiritually" she says gripping and holding up her own cellphone.........
This situation is getting more scary by the day I swear also love your videos Alex 💙
trauma is real , I still have ptsd from when my late father passed , he literally squeezed my hand before things got complicated and the doctors and nurses let me out of the hospital room, this all happened in 2014 and we are in 2023 now so , so trauma is real , and my heart goes to everyone who is struggling , stay strong 🙏
May these heartless monsters get what they deserve in jail.
I hope when the judge gives his final statement he tells Ruby that she is a “bad parent”. Maybe it will finally hit home that she’s the last person to give parental advice.
I love these types of videos where you keep us up to date with things that are happening. I love this type of content of you investigating and diving deep into situations♥️
FYI one of the biggest signs of a cult is victim blaming or telling someone that they shouldn’t feel like a victim (if they have been victimized somehow in their life-violence/sexual assault/etc) and that that is the key to overcoming their trauma-extreme ownership (and not the good kind like Jocko Willink says in his book extreme ownership).
I feel like a lot of the appeal of certain religious groups and offshoots (like Jodi and her 'coaching or whatever the hell this is) is that it feeds on *and* validates parent's fears about their lack of total control over their children. These parents want to control their kid's sexuality, identity, beliefs, their entire life trajectory. Someone with a veil of credibility who tells them "you're right to be afraid" and "you're right to blame your lack of control on x outside influence and that justifies further isolating your child" is just telling them to give in to their need for control. To squash their children's individuality, their privacy, their dreams, etc. and brainwash them into being little religious robots.
I live in Oregon US, and I know a licensed clinical therapist who took advantage of a brain injured veteran, maxed out a bunch of credit cards in his name, leaving him in financial trouble, manipulated him emotionally to the point where he was losing everything, and ultimately he took his own life. Same therapist worked at a high school and got busted numerous times intoxicated on the job and driving drunk on her lunch. She did not belong around kids, as her first husband was a minor and she groomed him and got pregnant as an adult. Same therapist gave her daughter everything and treated her son like he wasn’t part of the family. He took his own life at age 20. Now she’s working as a counselor at a community college and a psych teacher. Nobody can stop her.
Therapists can be some of the worst, most messed up people out there and we don’t know until the damage is done.
My own therapist got fired for getting into the shower with a client because she was afraid of showering. He took advantage of her. He was a brilliant man, but very very messed up as a human.
Another note, Jody had her therapy license suspended at one point because she didn't keep confidentiality of one of her patients and it is rumored she told the elders of her church about his problems sexually. Now her license will be revoked forever.
Utah is fuckin awful. I've been here all my life. It's rough living here as an atheist and a lesbian
As someone who is in trauma recovery from things that happened to me as a child, A CHILD…how terrible that that’s how she feels and was teaching others to feel the same way. That’s messed up.
I mean so so so many things are wrong with this situation and I feel for those children & hope they get the help they deserve. I also hope they’re able to experience actual love. My goodness this is a mess.
There is NOTHING like the hate of Christian love.
If you could just choose to not be traumatized, no one would be traumatized. If you could choose to not be abused, no one would be abused. Trauma related disorders would not exist. dv and assault would not exist.
"He loves apples or some shit.'" I don't know why that made me laugh so hard. 😂😂😂
When I was about 25 my first “real job” (meaning, it paid good money and made me feel like I was a proper adult) after college was for a cable company. This company had all new hires spend a week at their own “university” where we learned all facets of the business (mostly I learned why splitting your cable between many tvs made the reception fuzzy - paying for one line and then splitting over five tvs will do that lol), I was introduced to the Internet. I had never seen anything like before! It was marvellous. Exciting. Intriguing. I had no idea back then what the Internet would become. No one did. Makes me sad and enraged how far down the rabbit hole the Internet has taken all of us - any vice, you can find it. Any crazy idea you have, an audience can be found to absorb the content. Most, like this channel, are a great source of commentary on topical issues. But Jody & Ruby abusing kids in plain sight - it’s a WOW and I hope they get jail time. Their court case most likely available via live feed on the Internet. Love your channel 💕 keep up the good work 👍😊💕
I was born and raised in Utah for the beginning years of my life. Being rasied in the Mormon church was a bad experience for me being the fact that I was born out of wedlock and my home life wasn't the best. Even my own family members would call me a bastard child and tell me that I was going to hell (This was for as long as I could remember up until I moved out of state at 8yrs). Even moving states didn't help, unfortunately. Adults would tell their kids not to play with me and I was ostracized (Unless it was basketball season. Then they wanted to be my friend and include me with baskeball being a strong suit of mine). If you didn't have a cookie cutter life or were just a bit different, you were treated as inferior. A women in our ward divorced her husband because he was cheating on and abusing her. The church took HIS side and everyone turned their back on her because they had been married in the temple ( that's a "sacred" thing). So much messed up shit happens when it comes to the Mormon church and I agree that it's cult-like, definitely brain washing for sure.
I don't think tik tok makes you gay but I definitely think it makes young teens more curious about it and wondering where they might fit in or if they might be gay because they see it all over. The reason I say this is because it influenced my daughter and she went thru a "phase" a long with a bunch of her friends, I let her figure it out and she eventually realized that she wasn't but still believes she might be bi. I'm supportive of whatever she chooses is right for her.
Exactly, there're a million different sexualities/gender identities nowadays so people need to discover the one that they feel comfortable
This is true, this is the way to phrase what’s actually happening. Nothing can “make someone gay” like Jodi claims, but queer people are more likely to discover it sooner with the access of the internet. I’ve always been gay, I only ever had crushes on boys, but I didn’t have the language for it until I was around 12 and started learning more about the community. Before that I just thought I was broken, and that I’d have to live my life being unhappily forced into relationships with women. It was really comforting to learn that I didn’t have to do that. Most kids won’t question being queer if they’re not, and most kids who have a “phase” of something do end up being queer in one way or another. But, on the occasion that they do question it and end up being wrong, they’re still going to be perfectly fine at the end of the day. Jodi makes it seem like people are wrong for wanting to explore themselves, which just goes hand in hand with her cult leader BS.
How can they vilify social media when they are using it themselves???? To make money ??
I find it very interesting that these people are like "You need to practice abstinence, only have sex if you want a child" but they are also the type to say "Marital rape doesn't exist because it is your job as a women to fulfill your husband's sexual needs". So what is it do we only practice abstinence until we want a kid or do we fulfill our husband's sexual needs. Some couples have multiple children and no longer want/can afford any more, so are they supposed to just not have sex anymore. Is the wife no longer obligated to fulfill her husband's sexual needs, or are they supposed to just go into debt bringing more children and struggle to take care of all of their kids, especially in America where everything is incredibly expensive.
Edit: Not the most important/disgusting part of this but I feel other people have already addressed that and also just feel like its something worth pointing out and discussing.
Makes you "hate America more than I already do...". Gosh.
11:50 Oc she thinks it’s a “choice” - she’s so in the closet it’s pitiful & deeply ironic, if not so sad on her part- being so homophobic & likely very self-hating. She’s violently in the closet (w Ruby, who could be bi?)
12:53 *Update:* lmao, glad to see you had my exact same thoughts! 😆🏳️🌈
RIGHT 🤣🤣🤣?! Definitely a closeted lesbian who partly hates herself because of that and just wants to blame someone else for that 🙄 😆
MY FRIEND WILL BE ATTENDING THEIR FIRST COURT DATE AS AN AUDIENCE MEMBER! She wants to stare angrily into their faces whilst the judge does the talking. Their minimum sentence will be SIX YEARS and their maximum sentence will be NINETY YEARS! I bet they are crapping their pants in custody right now!!
Alex has been so consistent and quick with updates on this I’m just using him like the news
This woman makes me sick! As someone who was SA as a child for many years, I dang sure didn’t choose to put myself in that position. Yet, as an adult, I still deal daily with the trauma from it. Trust me, if I could choose to not let it affect me I would. Screw her!
I love how her counselling service is called CONnexions! Her company name is a Freudian slip.
The while situation in the US is scary in general. Literally, pick any damn topic, and there are terrifying things happening.
The medical and religious situations are, to me, the most terrifying, because yeah, Jodi is not a one off. There are quacks all over the place touting that sexuality is a choice and that people are broken for being not heterosexual, victim blaming, and basically telling people that your problems are due to your own negativity. The amount of times I've had to realize that the advice I've received is toxic positivity is disturbing.
Religion is no longer an opt-in thing, it's an opt-out thing, and you get SLAMMED to bits for not opting in. We have in the constitution freedom of religion, and people are forgetting that this includes freedom FROM religion. States like Utah have their religion so ingrained in their government via "representatives", it's become a safe haven for religious zealots and charlatans. It's so scary knowing that these are the lucky kids, because they have gotten out of this situation for the moment. There are so many more being abused that haven't been reached and are still suffering these cult delusions and abuse.
My country is a mess right now, man. This story is just a snapshot.
I have never understood how people think it’s a choice. I’m straight female and remember the first time I was physically attracted to a boy. He was what I was attracted to. I remember my heart beating faster when he walked into the room. I didn’t decide to be straight, I just was. Therefore, it never made sense to me that a person chooses to be gay or bi, they just are. Even if it was a choice, it is not her business to judge anyone or tell them how to live.
The mental cases that followed these abusers should also be checked out,,,,if you need strangers on the internet to tell you how to raise your kids you SHOULD NOT have any...
Your hair looks so good at the moment
The Daybel children were becoming zombies, how long would it be till Ruby considered her children to not be worthy of life?
I feel as though it won't be long before Jody's kids speak up about her. If they already have nothing to do with her, perhaps they'd participate in bringing her to justice so more kids don't suffer as they have.
I hope so
That creature has children? I’m already filled with pity for them.
@PatchedUpTwice yup, she does. They are adults now, too.
@@GingerThereforeNoSoul- Thanks - I jumped the gun on my comment before I got to Alex saying that. I wonder if she blames herself for her kids having nothing to do with her? After all, she’s quick to throw blame around at everyone else.
@@Brooklyntrashas a child who's no contact with both abusive parents, I guarantee you, she doesn't think she's the problem at all. People who are cut off by their kids because of their own nasty behavior never take responsibility for it.
Ah, I understand now..I’ll just cancel my therapy sessions and stop being traumatized by my abuser. Thanks Jodie!
The truly horrifying fact is that the Bishops of the church frequently referred clients to her! Even though her license had been suspended, she had little, if any , ethics and there were numerous complaints etc. She developed a pattern of destroying marriages and convincing the female/wife to carry on with her in counseling any children. It was a desirable outcome for her narcissism. Get rid of the male and then the female will pledge allegiance to Jodi and then Jodi could control and manipulate her from that point forward. Absolutely disgusting that her license was never (and still hasn't been)) terminated completely!!!
I’m an ex-Mormon and I grew up in Utah. All of this is from the Mormon church, which really runs Utah. Which is why I don’t live there any more- but I’m still in therapy recovering from growing up in the mormon cult. It’s horrific, she’s just a branch off the tree.
Utah is a physically stunning state. So beautiful. But weirdos abound, unfortunately. Some of us Americans are normal, I promise! I completely understand you hating us. We’re an embarrassing mess. I hate us, too. Haha!
“We think about it and then we adopt it” 😂😂😂😂
If it weren’t for Alex posting about this I’d be confused on what was happening
Thanks for the updates we love you
It doesn't "make" you gay, it makes you FEEL SAFE about expressing who you are! And that is good.
I love it when people make the argument that you choose who you’re attracted to because I know deep down they’re confused ones 😂
Yesssssss 👏😂😂😂 she gives me closeted lesbian vibes personally .