@@barmyneddy1789 I would be super disappointed if next gen means "almost the exact same thing as last gen, but in 4k at 60 fps" I hope developers come up with more than that to show us in the coming years.
It depends on what will become possible in the coming years, and what needs to be sacrificed to implement these new possibilities. Personally, I'm much more excited for A.I. and interactivity as well as a more realistic depiction of emotions and photorealism.
Playing at 60FPS on the Series X has felt like such an upgrade (coming from a One X). Additionally, with the VRR I haven't noticed any frame drops. Hopefully the PS5 will get this feature implemented.
Absolutely loving this game now on series x, it looks and plays bloody wicked. Sure its not completely stable but it plays so damn good and I've been playing it non stop since this patch, 60fps makes it vastly better
Yep even with the current state of the PS5 version, it still PLAYS better than the Pro version ever did. With fixing patch coming this week, it should be looking and playing better.
I wish games would more often have a 2k resolution mode, with some other visual settings turned up a bit higher than what they would be on 4k. To me resolution isnt everything and id often rather turn it down a little to turn other settings higher
Seriously and The Division 2 is a great example of it, especially on the Xbox One X. The game would look SO much better if they just turned a few settings up and tuned the resolution down. The whole 4k or die thing is really a shit practice.
People don't know the difference between realism and clarity. Realism and immersion are much more involved and complicated and it's what we want. Clarity or sharpness is easier to understand but not nearly as impactful. How good does Pong in 4k look? That's right, it looks like very clear crap.
I remember them saying that on one of the games on last gen, was it the Division ? I thought it was one of the AC games. But I remember thinking what a load of crap.
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch. Free merch > free speech. Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation. Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent. As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves, and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician. Ubiquity software is a corporation. Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
@@TerryMartinART Yeah, it was for AC Unity - originally the game ran without a lock and since the base consoles were shit and couldn't maintain 60fps, they had to lock it to 30. And that's where the line was born. Now countless idiots online still 7 years later talk about "cinematic" framerates. Just shows how clueless they are. It was a PR line and those idiots swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
This is different. Dirt 5 on XSX was a port of the ps5 version due to them not having the series x dev kits on time. This is a backwards compatibility issue
@Alfred Basurto Lazy devs exist but sometimes their work is limited to time and money. Just remember there are other variables such as management, tools, Covid, etc...
I bought this game at launch and didn't have the time to get into it then, I guess now is the time to get back in on series x, that and all the extra content out by now should make it worth it
There has never been a better time to jump in. I've been playing on and off since launch. They've added so much content and countless improvements to the game over time. Have fun!
This channel is such a valuable resource for consumers and its pretty interesting how there’s differences between the consoles, this channel does such a great job giving all consoles a balanced and fair comparison.
Absolutely. Makes no sense. But have to wonder when those affects are turned back on how low will the PS5 version rez drop to then? Hopefully not by much and they can fix it ASAP. Also will the FPS hold up when the rest of the effects are turned on. For now this test seems deeply flawed.
Yeah. In another recent video (The Medium?) they said they contacted the developers about an issue they found. Why?? That's the developer's job, not Digital Foundry's. They should fix their own shit.
@@VooDooPC34 well some things slip past em when there working on a entire game shits gonna slip past hence why most games especially smaller dev ones * idk if the medium is a smaller dev* request fan feedback and bug finds as typically players tend to break games more then QA testers haha
@@VooDooPC34 To be fair to developers. Some things need very specific events to happen in sequence in order to break the game. Not something you're going to catch in playtesting most of the time since you typically play certain sections multiple times instead of the whole game once.
There was a time when fog was used to help performance in games. View distance being greatly reduced with a fog you could not see through. The older the game, the closer the fog :) Back in the 90s I don't know there ever was a game where you could see the horizon. Maybe a future video for DF, "Fog over the Years" . Todays fog is pretty nice to see, and in stark contrast to how it is appreciated now opposed to then. They did a water video a while back and how its improved... John did a great job on it.
I just love DF. I have invested in a HDTV with VRR as I have given up screaming they should be using 1440p for a more stable 60FPS. 4K is utterly RIDICULOUS but it sells so.... 1440p/60 with extra eye candy is the way to go, what a wasted opportunity this gen. The GPU power in these new consoles is AWESOME but not if they're trying to run everything at 4K, it's CRIPPLING - WASTED. RUINED.
I play on pc on a 1440p monitor and 4k on console on my tv. You can clearly see the difference in resolution. However 1440p 144hz is still the best way to play
Why not just use PC? Makes no sense seeing everyone complain when they knew exactly what disadvantages they chose when buying a console. Anyone who can acquire a next gen console can easily afford a generic gaming PC.
@@Solegor No I think the gap is too big. They already doubled the performance with similar fidelity. 120 fps would be x4 times the performance with the same fidelity. That doesn't seem doable at all.
Gamers: the most powerful console should be the best version. Developers: The easiest to develop for should be the best version. Ubisoft: Where's my dartboard?
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch. Free merch > free speech. Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation. Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent. As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves, and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician. Ubiquity software is a corporation. Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
Its because ps5 is weaker its not a bug thats just some bullsguy df made up b.s. this game is hitting 1080p on ps5 lol even with effects removed. The devs removed effects. Ita not code because if it was it would have been removed in the unpatched Version but its not. This game at 30fps has all the effects on ps5 but at 60fps is missing effects. Df is doing more damage control for sony.
@@futvnyc so it seems Massive/Ubisoft have found some extra gigglyflops for the PS5 and have coded in these NOTABUG effects. Thank god they found them, must have misplaced them down the back of the sofa! Extra POWAH to be released this week.
The interesting thing is, with the fog disabled at the moment in the PS5 version you get to see all the weird shit that gets hidden such as at 5:42. :D
I have a Series X. I tried the Division 2 and could feel it was not a stable 60FPS so quit. I would pick the PS5 version EVERY TIME. I literally KNEW this was going to happen.
@@stevetodd5383 I also have a Series X and it seems the only option if you're favouring performance is a PS5 or get a HDTV with VRR.... Over reaching with resolution is literally RUINING games. 4K is a JOKE and people are too ignorant and also STUPID to even understand why - so easilly brainwashed by marketing....
I thought VRR was pretty standard by now. I played Division 2 on the Xbox One not the Series X, but most the frame rate issues I keep getting told there are with Series X games, I don't see them. I have an old'ish 4K 60hz monitor with VRR, I would have thought everyone that's buying a "next gen" console would at least have a monitor or tv with VRR already.
@@stevetodd5383 if you have a TV good enough to get the most for the console it should have VRR which stops these issues on any console but ps5 doesn't offer vrr solutions
@@LouSassol69er no its not because control showed who is better in photomode when fps was unlocked and it was series x. Series x is more powerfull and control showed it
The issues on PS5 version remind me of issues on dolphin emulator with some games like Zelda ones that if you rise the native resolution or anisotropic filtering, the volumetric lightning and/or some other effects like bloom break.
so features and simple things that were already on a last gen hardware got removed while also fucking up the next gen version well it's ubisoft I'm not surprised they can't even fix AC valhalla and with each update they add more bug's
Volumetric fog is not a simple thing. :D Not if you target to run the game 4K with 60FPS and you have limited HW. Sony advertisment don't lie. The console is able to handle 4K60FPS. But on simple games. Simple game like Crash Bandicoot is not as demanding as GTA for example.
I wonder where were you when Ubisoft released AC Valhalla on PC and it was running terrible even worse than the Division 2 on PS5 and even though that Alex said multiple times that the game is not optimized and there is little to no difference between lowest settings all the way to ultra but when DF compared the PS5 version to PC and it was obvious that PS5 performance is going to be closer to a better GPU rather than the 2060s but you fanboys going left and right and when ever you wanted to brag about PS5 performance comparing to the PC you keep bringing up the DF AC V video and ignoring the parts that Alex clearly said the game had serious issues on PC. So it's fair to say that you can taste your own medicine now.
Like, this seems rushed/like they have other priorties. Division 3 for Holiday 2021? Red Storm is seemingly getting more development done on Division 2 and aren't working on Star Wars.
Not only Star Wars, (and I haven't checked whether it was cancelled) but they've also been working on an Avatar game. I hope we still get that Avatar game and it wasn't just turned into Star Wars.
@@mrchiledonut Yeah, although I think their Star Wars project has priority in all likelihood. It's just a Division 2 Expansion or Division 3 made by Red Storm fills a release gap for Ubisoft in 2021, and also lets Massive work on said Star Wars and Avatar games
@@kartzau im sure they have a smaller team on div 2 for future content. guarantee they see starwars as their magnum opus. if not they should give it to someone else lol
Series X has VRR, so I actually love that they prioritize resolution even if you'll see a dip of 5-10 frames cuz on my VRR display you don't even feel it.
Honestly I feel like this is something that should be optional though. It's great to have if you have a VRR display, but if you don't have a VRR display you'll have a worse experience
@@Seritias I agree the option should be there. Still, the usual "performance mode" vs "Graphics Mode" isn't ideal sometimes cuz in alot of cases they'll just drop the graphics mode down to 30fps (when in reality in alot of cases it may run decently well at 60 with no adverse effects if you are running VRR). Maybe the solution would be a third "Graphics VRR optimized mode" or something like that but I'm not a developer, I'll leave that to people smarter than me 😂
I'd be more upset over the fog and lighting than the reflections. Don't get me wrong the differences between them are significant, but it doesn't detract from the feeling during gameplay as much as its being touted.
Holy sh* there is a lot of LOD pop-in in this game. I constantly see the terrain, textures etc morping into better versions of themselves like 5 meters in front of the character.
Must be because of last gen, this barely happens on pc This game has insane graphics, complex ai, and a bunch of shit happening at the same time. So I guess they had the pop in to be stable on last gen, but they did not remove it Just a theory
its a last gen game, ported with soe improvements. These games use the power of the next gen consoles the LEAST every time we get into a new gen. Everyone knows that
Expect to see next gen series S games running at lower settings and resolution it's just what it is. You're getting something between a 1 X and a PS5 when you buy a series S. Like it's a half a step above the One X vs a full step you find in Series X and Ps5 if that makes sense.
@@bacardim390 Yah, Series S will run lower resolution than Series X, but it has more graphical grunt than PS4 Pro but the CPU and SSD speeds of Series X. It's a little ninja box that will surprise you.
Don't expect res higher than dynamic 1080p if you want 60fps... Or just return it and buy the proper console. You're going to be more and more disappointed as time goes by. Not sure how people can still support their purchase of series s at this point. It's clearly not doing well with the early launch games.
@@davelloyd820 it's a budget console lol for whats it's got and can do you won't get a pc for that but yeah you have your opinion let the people who bought one decide themselves some might like it after all its a bit of in between old/new
PS5 version was patched today apparently. Be curious to know if it’s fixed the issues. Good vid, I’m still playing on one X, looking forward to the upgrade when stock isn’t limited.
@@xAKIMBOCURLYx its not really a question of straight up bugs its a question who has the better back compac software and programs and since obivisouly xbox has been doing it for longer, its a matter of the ps5 back compac stuff fucking up which i guess is still a big but not really
The specs are not even close the PS5 sucks in backward compatible mode what happened to that super fast SSD Series loading this game much faster than the ultra speed SSD in the PS5
For honor (another Ubisoft game) also received a next gen path back in December that allows 4K @ 60 fps and it works great! You guys should check it out
NICE tricks Microsoft, paid UBISOFT to deliberately tune down visuals on PS5, same dirty marketing used on Cyberpunk. After the 1.31 patch everything looks great!
You will never get it. MBG makes no comments about PS5 losing. We're looking at an average 1080P image vs 2160P with a few dips to 1800, but MBG has a mouth full of that Mark Cerny Secret Sauce
Patch 1.31 is out now on PS5, I updated and now everything is normal, even the resolution is very good now. Not like before there was some flashing anti aliasing artefacts, it's been fixed.
Just got to SHD level 1000 last night, this game is so much fun. I wish i had a next gen console to play it on though. The 1X is great but a Series X woud be better.
Yeah, 60 fps makes a huge difference with aiming and general combat awerness. Still, great game on X1X, had 600 hours of great experience :D Good luck on getting XSX in the future and kicking some Black Tusk asses in high framerate!
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch. Free merch > free speech. Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation. Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent. As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves, and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician. Ubiquity software is a corporation. Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
Currently playing on an Xbox One S, and it's beautiful, such an extremely high quality game. Don't care for the fact that it's technically an outdated GAS title, since it's seasons are already passed up, but it's a absolute marvel of a world they built, never have I seen such exquisite details in terms of a modern wasteland, that puts the concept of a franchise like Fallout to shame. Has a fair bit of stupid bugs that should of been fixed by now though, they're not game breaking, but it's irritating just to restart certain missions so things can play out properly.
Great presentation, DF is trying their best to be unbiased. Me, I'm impressed to see how great backcompatible games can look on the new consoles. Its all up to the Devs to implement this.
They are definitely not impartial, every time the Series X comes out ahead they make excuses for PS but when PS comes out ahead they remain silent even when there is an obvious reason for the performance difference. I don't know if its because of personal bias or that they are just afraid to upset the Sony fan base but they definitely do favor Sony.
@@cody9883 I don't get how people get to that conclusion. One day they are "definitely favoring Xbox", next day they are "PS fan boys". It always changes.
@@brunnen153 Comparing frame rates when one console is consistently running at a higher resolution but pointing out the frame drops is a bit deceitful, they need to point out the fact that if all these games were running at the same resolution then the performance delta would shift. They should also say what setting the games are running at, 4k on low settings is completely different from 4k on high setting and takes considerably less power to do so.
@@brunnen153 They straight up say in the video several times, "Even though the Series X is running at a higher resolution and with full atmospheric/volumetric effects on while the PS5 has NO EFFECTS and is averaging a lower resolution, the PS5 is 'performing better'" - just because it did not dip below 60FPS. SMH.
Xbox Series X is a beast! It runs at high quality, constant 60fps and yet, no one mentions how the temperatures are considerably cooler then found on the Play Station 5. BOT GDDR6 RAM at 96c is a major problem on the console.
Don't forget how it's absolutely silent. Put a piece of tape over the power button and no one will know that it's powered on, even when it's pushing hard.
@@scotchwhisky6094 that's the developer's software game engine that needs optimization, to utilise the new consoles hardware or software capabilities. But yes, they need to patch it like others are doing! 😁
Xbox series X is effectively an emulation machine. Backwards compatibility is it’s bread-and-butter. I suspect we are going to continue to see this with any backwards compatible titles and subsequent updates they receive the next generation. I think where we are going to see a real difference in what the consoles are capable of is running genuine next gen games.
What did they do to the HDR in this game? I remember playing the division 2 at launch, the HDR looked fantastic. I tried the updated next gen Series X version the other day, the blacks looked raised, the night time scenes aren't as impactful in HDR.
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch. Free merch > free speech. Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation. Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent. As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves, and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician. Ubiquity software is a corporation. Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
Smart delivery is amazing, I am grateful that xbox has made such a seamless experience for backwards compatibility, and the ease of upgrading last gen games for nextgen.
I have to say game runs and looks great on Series X. Loading times are faster than on One even though I dp play it from external HDD. Those issues on PS5 must be fixed because even simple things like fog add to atmosphere a lot.
@@mahoobarc1439 Did you even watch the Video? The Series X version kills it. Look at the comments.... PS players blaming anyone they can for a shittier version. 😂🤫
If I was digital foundry I would get sick of all these comments. I'm convinced people in the comments do not know any better. Some are saying it's damage control BUT literally DF said and showed it was a bug with clear facts and evidence. This is why I ignore all of these braindead comments. It's literally just a analysis video.
I agree but will fanboys? Not a chance. Nothing is wrong with preferring one over the other(I personally like xbox because I find most single player games boring so exclusives don't matter to me and I like xbox os) but you don't have to tear down the other. Gamers are so immature and stupid
@Alâ Tempest Audio is 3D audio. It's no different than Atmos or DTS x. They are all software that relies on hardware. The difference between the three is how they produce the audio for instance: imaging, soundstage, warmth etc.. Do all games support 3D audio on PS5?
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch. Free merch > free speech. Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation. Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent. As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves, and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician. Ubiquity software is a corporation. Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
@@DeadPhoenix86DP Literally 99% of their videos discuss the difference between different platforms' dynamic resolutions and frame rates. How does this not warrant the creation of a typical Digital Foundry video?
I have zero intrerest in anything other than what they have done, upgrading res and fps is WONDERFUL and I am SO SO grateful to them for this - despite my opinion on 4K.... 1440p/60 would have been just fine. Pointing this out because I felt you said it in a slight negative way, I get that graphical improvements are cool but let's just make sure all devs know, FPS and res bump for older games is SO SO APPRECIATED
Nice bugged PS5 😂 XSX is more powerfull anyway. These 3rd party titles are gonna be better, more and more often. Hitman 3 was waayyy better on X. CP77 is running smooooth with quality mode on X. Every early bugs that were found on AC Valhala and Dirt5 are now patched. DX12 Ultimate is coming, gonna be a nice game changer for devs. Too bad Sony can't use Direct X 😂 XSX is clearly the winner on all 3rd p. And VRR is the cherry on the cake lol. PS5 still doesn't have it, whereas it's been on Xbox One S, One X and now Series X and S for years lmao. What about Magic SSD ? 😂 That can't even be upgraded 😂😂
The best I can do is laugh at children's comments, I have my reasons for owning a playstation, other people have their reasons for owning an xbox. It is very silly to want to impose on people that what you have is the best.
I agree. However how can you not laugh at morons who claimed PS5 ssd act like a gpu and boost graphics or morons who claimed xboxsx will outperform ps5 by at least 25%? We have to mock fanboys. Respect to true gamers though no matter the colors.
Yeah true, I remember playing it with max settings which are likely higher than the settings the new consoles are running it at and it ran fine on my Ryzen 3700x and RX5700 at 1400p/60, it pushed the gpu pretty hard but the cpu usage was pretty low and looking at the power of these new consoles, a few tweaks and optimizations should be able to run this game better with the correct effects. The load times seem a bit odd because it should be faster, even on the Series X because I remember it being really quick on my M2 drive.
I play on Ps5 (i have the game installed in an external 1T SSd and the screen tearing in my 4K Lg is just bad not to say horrible most of the times, As soon I got to play the DLC "Warlords of NY" i started to notice this a lot. Dont know if its related but i could bet it is. I regret to have bought it at all for the ps5 platform.. Anyone got it as bad as I do, and have you done anything to improve it (if that is possible)? Should have bought it for pc.... and yes, 1440p SHOULD be an option if not the STANDARD RESOLUTION for this Gen.....
Maybe reflections and fog are disabled cuz at some point they wanted to do ray traced reflections and lighting but then scrapped the idea and forgot to turn them back on lol
@@zackariasevertson7733 not when you turn on VRR, Series X and S are currently the only consoles with VRR. But even without it, the frame drop is negligible
It wont, as soon as (next gen) games comes around the Series S will be lucky to hit 1080p in most games at 60fps. Hell i fear we shall see 900p as the standart for that console sooner than people expects. Some Devs has already complained that its holding this generation back.
@@AdaaDK yeah series S was a stupid move. I feel bad for anyone that owns one since they’ll probably buy a memory expansion soon and that plus the series s is the same price as a series x. Anybody who gets one just doesn’t know better
@@AdaaDK series S will fair better once new games come in currently it runs one S games in legacy mode using a legacy GCN emulation architecture. When new games come out it will use big navi properly and the velocity architecture.
It’s absolute rubbish that the S will hold back this gen. The PC has always had to cope with varying levels of performance. It’s not held back PC game development (it’s the consoles in general that do that when they eventually get to 2-3 generations behind PCs). Lowering the resolution and removing some effects aimed at a single console is far easier than trying to do it for multiple PC configurations.... essentially the work is already done in the PC version.
@@ThePoisonDwarf1 but people have already made series S and X exclusive games, they aren’t all backwards compatibility games. The medium, for instance, has a lot of visual downgrades, and if I remember correctly it only runs at 900p. Late gen games are gonna take a serious hit on the S.
@@PlaystationPortalOwnsSwitchHardly a performance disparity that you can see with the naked eye. You needed DF to show you. Nobody is missing out playing Hitman on Series X.....nobody
@Alâ lol it runs more stable but it doesn’t run better at all lol. If the ps5 was running hitman at native 4k (which it can’t because the console is to weak) then it would have performance dips as well. If Xbox was running it at 1800 p instead of 4k there wouldn’t be the performance issues even tho it’s only on literally 1 scene that you guys are riding it into the sunset lol. Stretch a little bit first before u reach that hard lol. So u prefer performance and stability over resolution? Keep that same energy though with assassin creed Valhalla then because now after updates it runs smoother on Xbox than ps5 version but with more resolution dips.
The missing effects are in the Micro Transactions store.
I holla'd out loud when I read that! Good One!
EA and Activision: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!!
It wouldn't be Ubisoft without it.
OHHHHHH ELDEN RING
@@dairyisfine Lmao. Definitely.
No matter what console you’re on, we can all agree that 60fps is a must this generation.
60 FPS native 4K should be the standard but the consoles clearly aren’t capable of it.
@@barmyneddy1789 I would be super disappointed if next gen means "almost the exact same thing as last gen, but in 4k at 60 fps" I hope developers come up with more than that to show us in the coming years.
It depends on what will become possible in the coming years, and what needs to be sacrificed to implement these new possibilities. Personally, I'm much more excited for A.I. and interactivity as well as a more realistic depiction of emotions and photorealism.
Not really. 30fps will still be the norm forever cause 60 just make games runs faster n isn't a different at all.
@@Derivedwhale45 I like the smoothness of 60fps for gameplsy, but prefer 30fps cutscenes for cinematic appeal
Playing at 60FPS on the Series X has felt like such an upgrade (coming from a One X). Additionally, with the VRR I haven't noticed any frame drops. Hopefully the PS5 will get this feature implemented.
VRR is indeed fantastic. I didn’t think it would work so well. I can’t play with it off now.
@Eric B That's only for low rez peasants
Variable 4K 30 to variable 4K 60fps, wow, much improvement, wow.
Let me go get my wallet and spend another $500 now that we have a 30fps upgrade 🤩
This game for all its faults, is gorgeous
I'll stick with the professionals in the comment section
😂😂
Best comment I've read today 😂😂🤣
Brilliant comment 😂😂😂
There are 0 professional frame and pixel counters in the comments. Stick to the video if you want those accurate life saving numbers.
They know best
someone forgot to enable fog before clicking the save button 😂
NO FOG FOR YOU!!!
What if that's actually what happened lol. Some honest mistake
That's what happens when your working from home 🏡
it can't handle fog
@@unclebioticz8978
Yes , it can handle ray tracing and 120fps gameplay , but it can't handle fog on a PS4 game
Makes sense
Absolutely loving this game now on series x, it looks and plays bloody wicked. Sure its not completely stable but it plays so damn good and I've been playing it non stop since this patch, 60fps makes it vastly better
Same with Destiny 2 awesome update brought 60fps and stunning visuals and game is a different beast now.
Yep even with the current state of the PS5 version, it still PLAYS better than the Pro version ever did. With fixing patch coming this week, it should be looking and playing better.
I hope these patches make division 2 more popular again as it's a good game! I wish they would add crossplay too
It's evolving just backwards
16 times the detail!
@@petrlazar5240 at least you would play better with the wireless gaming headset and mouse
I don’t know why I love this comment so much, but I’ve seen it a couple times and it always makes me laugh.
I'm sure the comments are going to be intelligent and impartial.
hahaha
Lmao. Digital foundry has become all fanboys' octagon
fanboys: hold my brain
@@mykidzyomouth9125 “the fanboys octagon” 😂😂😂. and then they keep arguing via different social media platforms... all because of one video.
I already got my popcorn ready
I wish games would more often have a 2k resolution mode, with some other visual settings turned up a bit higher than what they would be on 4k. To me resolution isnt everything and id often rather turn it down a little to turn other settings higher
Seriously and The Division 2 is a great example of it, especially on the Xbox One X. The game would look SO much better if they just turned a few settings up and tuned the resolution down. The whole 4k or die thing is really a shit practice.
@@Unpopular50 Exactly 100% agree
People don't know the difference between realism and clarity. Realism and immersion are much more involved and complicated and it's what we want. Clarity or sharpness is easier to understand but not nearly as impactful. How good does Pong in 4k look? That's right, it looks like very clear crap.
@@TheMrDuck313 it sounds like what you really want is a PC where you get complete freedom of resolution, settings and can even tweak the game files.
@@harrisonmurphy2424 I have one. I'll always have a PC and PS. But we werent talking about settings on PC now were we?
Ubisoft completely fucked up the PS5 version, how did this go through Q&A is a head-scratcher to me.
Strange considering how good Valhalla is on the system.
It’s not their fault. It’s the shitty hardware in the PS5.
@@robertschris82 if that makes you sleep better at night.
It is Ubisoft. I'm hardly surprised
@@robertschris82 lol PS5 has been out performing the series x in average. Cmon now.
-insert joke about Ubisoft calling 30 FPS more cinematic
Hi lng
I remember them saying that on one of the games on last gen, was it the Division ? I thought it was one of the AC games. But I remember thinking what a load of crap.
well it is true, thats why films are 24fps...
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch.
Free merch > free speech.
Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation.
Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent.
As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves,
and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician.
Ubiquity software is a corporation.
Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
@@TerryMartinART Yeah, it was for AC Unity - originally the game ran without a lock and since the base consoles were shit and couldn't maintain 60fps, they had to lock it to 30. And that's where the line was born. Now countless idiots online still 7 years later talk about "cinematic" framerates. Just shows how clueless they are. It was a PR line and those idiots swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
The PS5 patch needs a patch..
🤣🤣🤣🤣
No patch is gonna fix PS5's inferiority.
@@gringoamigo8146 Nice try but you are catching no one with that low quality bait
@@Jonatan606 It's not bait. It's a fact. Xbox series X really is superior to PS5.
@@gringoamigo8146 Stop
Division 2 did the same thing to the PS5 dirt 5 did to the series X. Completely borked version.
We will fix graphics for ps5
@Blast The Bass Looks like he works for Ubisoft Massive. 😄
The dirt 5 was fixed on the series X.
This is different. Dirt 5 on XSX was a port of the ps5 version due to them not having the series x dev kits on time. This is a backwards compatibility issue
@Alfred Basurto Lazy devs exist but sometimes their work is limited to time and money. Just remember there are other variables such as management, tools, Covid, etc...
I bought this game at launch and didn't have the time to get into it then, I guess now is the time to get back in on series x, that and all the extra content out by now should make it worth it
I’m doing the same also...also with the series x
There has never been a better time to jump in. I've been playing on and off since launch. They've added so much content and countless improvements to the game over time. Have fun!
I loved this game on release
This channel is such a valuable resource for consumers and its pretty interesting how there’s differences between the consoles, this channel does such a great job giving all consoles a balanced and fair comparison.
Hm. Sounds like the PS5 version omissions must be unintentional. Can't imagine they'd remove those features that were there even on last-gen.
Especially considering these effects were on the base PS4 which is only 1.8 TF. The game engine is capable. This is a bug.
Absolutely. Makes no sense. But have to wonder when those affects are turned back on how low will the PS5 version rez drop to then? Hopefully not by much and they can fix it ASAP. Also will the FPS hold up when the rest of the effects are turned on. For now this test seems deeply flawed.
@@madezra64 Ahh! So now it's a software issue when it's your precious PS5 not up to par. 😂
What kind of QCing are they doing? It compiles, so ship it?
Scamvision.
Sometimes I think multiplatform devs wait for Digital Foundries findings in order to fix problems they were too lazy to repair right away.
its less expensive to have DF do they work that pay for testers lol
Yeah. In another recent video (The Medium?) they said they contacted the developers about an issue they found. Why?? That's the developer's job, not Digital Foundry's. They should fix their own shit.
@@VooDooPC34 well some things slip past em when there working on a entire game shits gonna slip past hence why most games especially smaller dev ones * idk if the medium is a smaller dev* request fan feedback and bug finds as typically players tend to break games more then QA testers haha
@@VooDooPC34 To be fair to developers. Some things need very specific events to happen in sequence in order to break the game. Not something you're going to catch in playtesting most of the time since you typically play certain sections multiple times instead of the whole game once.
It's definitely laziness in this situation, you physically could not play the PS5 version without noticing it looks gross
Literally just got off playing co op with my friend. Looks amazing on series x.
There was a time when fog was used to help performance in games. View distance being greatly reduced with a fog you could not see through. The older the game, the closer the fog :) Back in the 90s I don't know there ever was a game where you could see the horizon. Maybe a future video for DF, "Fog over the Years" . Todays fog is pretty nice to see, and in stark contrast to how it is appreciated now opposed to then. They did a water video a while back and how its improved... John did a great job on it.
nice, thats cool
3:42 that's some the evil within stuff going on, in the distance
The control Effect...!!!
I just love DF. I have invested in a HDTV with VRR as I have given up screaming they should be using 1440p for a more stable 60FPS. 4K is utterly RIDICULOUS but it sells so.... 1440p/60 with extra eye candy is the way to go, what a wasted opportunity this gen. The GPU power in these new consoles is AWESOME but not if they're trying to run everything at 4K, it's CRIPPLING - WASTED. RUINED.
I play on pc on a 1440p monitor and 4k on console on my tv. You can clearly see the difference in resolution. However 1440p 144hz is still the best way to play
Why not just use PC? Makes no sense seeing everyone complain when they knew exactly what disadvantages they chose when buying a console. Anyone who can acquire a next gen console can easily afford a generic gaming PC.
@@kelownatechkid lol... LOL
I have a PC and I have no interest explaining to 3+ people per day, who all ask the same question 'why'
@@kelownatechkid you would need to spend double on a pc to get the same performance as a series x
Besides the TV cpu will upscale the image to 4k anyway.
It's almost like they released the wrong build on PS5.
Hahah
no it just can't handle all of it at 60fps
Nope the ps5 weak hardware is just getting exposed
@@isaiah8998 lol. Ps5 is amazing
@@isaiah8998 That argument doesn't really make sense when it is missing out on settings that were enabled on the Xbox One S and PS4.
I expected the resolution to maybe be a slight step back on ps5 but all these effects missing sounds like a botched upgrade from UBI.
Its not an upgrade on both consoles I think , its the old consoles version running with backwards compatibility.
@@firasdrass943 they still could've done a lot more.
@@TruTrae That is totally true especially on ps5.
Other than black crush I liked it. I don't like volumetric lighting/fog it makes the game look washed out.
@@firasdrass943 man did you even watch the video
Series X needs more aggressive DRS for the FPS dips.
PlayStation 5 needs to rest of game settings installed.
This Game on Series X and LG Oled-Insane
Any game on OLED = insane
Fully agree. I keep lighting on flat since it can handle night time scenes well
Imagine if they patched a 1080/120fps mode , that would be insane!!
I don't see how it would be enough for 120 fps as the dynamic resolution already dips to 1080p at 60 fps.
I think it is a little bit unnecesary
@@Jonatan606 can be done by creating specific ps5 version
@@Solegor No I think the gap is too big. They already doubled the performance with similar fidelity. 120 fps would be x4 times the performance with the same fidelity. That doesn't seem doable at all.
@@Jonatan606 they are running in back-compat mode so the limit has not been reached yet by far mile
Anybody knows if this has been fixed? im holding on playing the game for the first time because I want to have a nice expirience
Gamers: the most powerful console should be the best version.
Developers: The easiest to develop for should be the best version.
Ubisoft: Where's my dartboard?
That's what I thought 🤣 Ubisoft isn't worth the money
I think they have decided in the end, Series X is the better version.
Ubisoft: Which company paid me more should get the best version
Well, by your words Dan, they have done, as the Series X version is the one running perfectly.
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch.
Free merch > free speech.
Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation.
Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent.
As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves,
and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician.
Ubiquity software is a corporation.
Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
DF: it's a bug
Experts in the comments: It's because PS5 has less teraflops
Its because ps5 is weaker its not a bug thats just some bullsguy df made up b.s. this game is hitting 1080p on ps5 lol even with effects removed. The devs removed effects. Ita not code because if it was it would have been removed in the unpatched Version but its not. This game at 30fps has all the effects on ps5 but at 60fps is missing effects. Df is doing more damage control for sony.
@@futvnyc It's a bug.
@@futvnyc Silly Xboi 🙄
@@futvnyc so it seems Massive/Ubisoft have found some extra gigglyflops for the PS5 and have coded in these NOTABUG effects. Thank god they found them, must have misplaced them down the back of the sofa! Extra POWAH to be released this week.
@@futvnyc LOL
PS5 got an update that fixes the fog\colors and reflections, and it still runs smoother than the Series X version
DRS window was widened even more, lowest res on PS5 is 1080p now
The interesting thing is, with the fog disabled at the moment in the PS5 version you get to see all the weird shit that gets hidden such as at 5:42. :D
I have a Series X. I tried the Division 2 and could feel it was not a stable 60FPS so quit. I would pick the PS5 version EVERY TIME. I literally KNEW this was going to happen.
@@stevetodd5383 I also have a Series X and it seems the only option if you're favouring performance is a PS5 or get a HDTV with VRR.... Over reaching with resolution is literally RUINING games. 4K is a JOKE and people are too ignorant and also STUPID to even understand why - so easilly brainwashed by marketing....
@@stevetodd5383 yea but you only get 60fps because this are all cross gen titles.
I thought VRR was pretty standard by now.
I played Division 2 on the Xbox One not the Series X, but most the frame rate issues I keep getting told there are with Series X games, I don't see them. I have an old'ish 4K 60hz monitor with VRR, I would have thought everyone that's buying a "next gen" console would at least have a monitor or tv with VRR already.
@@stevetodd5383 if you have a TV good enough to get the most for the console it should have VRR which stops these issues on any console but ps5 doesn't offer vrr solutions
PS5 owners: Look how they massacred my boy.
those loading times, Xbox series X-S won again
@@rexkyubi5423 PS5 is way better dude. Mark Cerny, nuff said.
@@LouSassol69er no its not because control showed who is better in photomode when fps was unlocked and it was series x. Series x is more powerfull and control showed it
Poor PS5 owners... ☹️
@@fusingentree3928 lool Well have fun playing in photo mode
Can you go over the new patch released yesterday, thanks.
The issues on PS5 version remind me of issues on dolphin emulator with some games like Zelda ones that if you rise the native resolution or anisotropic filtering, the volumetric lightning and/or some other effects like bloom break.
Oh yeah my boy nintendo fixed the bloom stuff with the wiiu port of the wind waker ;D
so features and simple things that were already on a last gen hardware got removed while also fucking up the next gen version well it's ubisoft I'm not surprised they can't even fix AC valhalla and with each update they add more bug's
They STILL haven't fixed the fucking tearing either...
@@nighttimestalker its fixed on series x
It's like when they released assassin's creed 3 on switch and it was worse than the 360 version
What's up with Valhalla? I just started and about 4 hours in
Volumetric fog is not a simple thing. :D Not if you target to run the game 4K with 60FPS and you have limited HW. Sony advertisment don't lie. The console is able to handle 4K60FPS. But on simple games. Simple game like Crash Bandicoot is not as demanding as GTA for example.
"next-gen" in console= old-gen in PC.
staying true to their name, Ubisoft
Scamvision.
Ubisoft, Ibisoft, Weallbisoft
Or as I like to call them: UbiShit
I wonder where were you when Ubisoft released AC Valhalla on PC and it was running terrible even worse than the Division 2 on PS5 and even though that Alex said multiple times that the game is not optimized and there is little to no difference between lowest settings all the way to ultra but when DF compared the PS5 version to PC and it was obvious that PS5 performance is going to be closer to a better GPU rather than the 2060s but you fanboys going left and right and when ever you wanted to brag about PS5 performance comparing to the PC you keep bringing up the DF AC V video and ignoring the parts that Alex clearly said the game had serious issues on PC.
So it's fair to say that you can taste your own medicine now.
@@thanos2420 No idea what you talking about kid
This game Looks and Runs beautifully on my SX. I'm gonna play the NYC DLC once I get my brother and the homie caught up.
This game came free with my one x I bought last year but I didn't play it. I may give it a download since they updated it for S|X
PS5 has more resolution and graphics than Xbot Sucks X. More next gen than noobBox Serie X or noob supreme Serie S.
@@LouSassol69er nice bait
@@LouSassol69er lmao you sound so sad and petty
Sent from my PC which has been running games at 60fps since before the PS4 even launched
@@djseamus thanks, quite proud of it myself
Then shd I buy PS5 or this will be in all PS5 games?
Like, this seems rushed/like they have other priorties.
Division 3 for Holiday 2021? Red Storm is seemingly getting more development done on Division 2 and aren't working on Star Wars.
They said they're gonna support the div 2 for the next 2 years
And The Division 2 XSX versión it seems xD
Not only Star Wars, (and I haven't checked whether it was cancelled) but they've also been working on an Avatar game. I hope we still get that Avatar game and it wasn't just turned into Star Wars.
@@mrchiledonut Yeah, although I think their Star Wars project has priority in all likelihood.
It's just a Division 2 Expansion or Division 3 made by Red Storm fills a release gap for Ubisoft in 2021, and also lets Massive work on said Star Wars and Avatar games
@@kartzau im sure they have a smaller team on div 2 for future content. guarantee they see starwars as their magnum opus. if not they should give it to someone else lol
Series X has VRR, so I actually love that they prioritize resolution even if you'll see a dip of 5-10 frames cuz on my VRR display you don't even feel it.
I agree 100%. Why wouldn’t they take advantage of the hardware in every way they can?? I mean, what other reason would there be to include VRR?
@@brucecarter6205 Very well said. With VRR you get best of both worlds, Smooth gaming at 4k!
Honestly I feel like this is something that should be optional though. It's great to have if you have a VRR display, but if you don't have a VRR display you'll have a worse experience
Xbot trying to justify framedrops😂
@@Seritias I agree the option should be there. Still, the usual "performance mode" vs "Graphics Mode" isn't ideal sometimes cuz in alot of cases they'll just drop the graphics mode down to 30fps (when in reality in alot of cases it may run decently well at 60 with no adverse effects if you are running VRR). Maybe the solution would be a third "Graphics VRR optimized mode" or something like that but I'm not a developer, I'll leave that to people smarter than me 😂
A update hit PS5 today and fixed the missing reflections, smoke and fog effects.
Bout to start a new agent. Just got the series x
Series x is the most powerful console ever ps5 is hot garbage good Choice
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX smoking that crack again 😂
@@blindkreper yo lemme get a hit off that
Same! I wanted to revisit this game anyway. This upgrade moved it way up my backlog 😅.
@@METALFACEDOOMXXXX both are good consoles chill out
Pretty sure the missing effects are because of a glitch, it makes no sense for the previous gen to have them and not the current gen.
Ps5 is weaker.
@@futvnyc weaker than a PS4 pro? Please think a little. It's obviously a bug.
@@donemu9096 Xbox fans and thinking typically don't mesh well together as you can see.
@@STAR_GUARDIAN_V judging by your comments history you kinda hypocrite
@@herdip2224 Wrong. You might want to check your brain again, son. Otherwise don't talk to me. You'll lose every time.
I'd be more upset over the fog and lighting than the reflections. Don't get me wrong the differences between them are significant, but it doesn't detract from the feeling during gameplay as much as its being touted.
Incredible work from Tom once again. The underrated member of DF. We need him to make more videos.
'No native ps5 app'. Well then we shouldn't call this a next gen release.
Those the wording really bother you? Must be fun at parties.
oh shit ok its enhanced backward compatibility mode. boom lol!
Who’s we?
@SKHYJINX current-gen not next-gen as the hardware is available.
Next gen hardware doesn't exist in the PS5.
Thanks Tom, but I’ll get my info from the _real_ professionals in the comments section.
Holy sh* there is a lot of LOD pop-in in this game. I constantly see the terrain, textures etc morping into better versions of themselves like 5 meters in front of the character.
Must be because of last gen, this barely happens on pc
This game has insane graphics, complex ai, and a bunch of shit happening at the same time. So I guess they had the pop in to be stable on last gen, but they did not remove it
Just a theory
Just like every Ubisoft game lol
@@MemoriesLP did u really just say complex ai
Ai are bullet sponges. Nothing more. Occasionally they dodge and that's it.
@@sean7332 he means shitty ai that’s as costly to the system as complex ai. As it is a Ubisoft game
How weird, s series running at 1080p at 60fps. I hope next-gen games do just as well in s series.
its a last gen game, ported with soe improvements. These games use the power of the next gen consoles the LEAST every time we get into a new gen. Everyone knows that
Expect to see next gen series S games running at lower settings and resolution it's just what it is. You're getting something between a 1 X and a PS5 when you buy a series S. Like it's a half a step above the One X vs a full step you find in Series X and Ps5 if that makes sense.
@@bacardim390 Yah, Series S will run lower resolution than Series X, but it has more graphical grunt than PS4 Pro but the CPU and SSD speeds of Series X. It's a little ninja box that will surprise you.
Don't expect res higher than dynamic 1080p if you want 60fps... Or just return it and buy the proper console. You're going to be more and more disappointed as time goes by.
Not sure how people can still support their purchase of series s at this point. It's clearly not doing well with the early launch games.
@@davelloyd820 it's a budget console lol for whats it's got and can do you won't get a pc for that but yeah you have your opinion let the people who bought one decide themselves some might like it after all its a bit of in between old/new
PS5 version was patched today apparently. Be curious to know if it’s fixed the issues. Good vid, I’m still playing on one X, looking forward to the upgrade when stock isn’t limited.
“To me is running Great 60fps!”
*runs the game at 720 and lowest settings
Sure as heck that's me!
Console users saying that PC is dying, yet I don't see a 120fps option for this game on the consoles
@@MrZodiac011 who said PC is dying? If anything PC is bigger than ever lol I own both ps5 and PC and feel like I have all bases covered.
@@malazan6004 nah, for that you additionally need a switch :D
@@MrZodiac011 No console player says that lmao
Considering how crap ubisoft pc optimization is, im not surprised that ps5 vs XSX is not equal even though their specs are close.
It's not a question of optimisation. Its a bug
@@xAKIMBOCURLYx its not really a question of straight up bugs its a question who has the better back compac software and programs and since obivisouly xbox has been doing it for longer, its a matter of the ps5 back compac stuff fucking up which i guess is still a big but not really
Specs close? You're dreaming 😅
the specs are not close atall 🤦ps5 doesn't even have rdna 2? and it clocks are variable and it had 5 less TF
The specs are not even close the PS5 sucks in backward compatible mode what happened to that super fast SSD Series loading this game much faster than the ultra speed SSD in the PS5
PS5 patch is in the maintenance update today
For honor (another Ubisoft game) also received a next gen path back in December that allows 4K @ 60 fps and it works great! You guys should check it out
Great tip thanks.
I didn't know For Honor got a next gen update, Warmonger our time has come !
Only Ubisoft can downgrade a game with a "Next-Gen Upgrade" patch.
It's not a downgrade, PS5 just has a visual bug
Ubisoft are terrible these days good lord.
NICE tricks Microsoft, paid UBISOFT to deliberately tune down visuals on PS5, same dirty marketing used on Cyberpunk. After the 1.31 patch everything looks great!
🙄🤦♂️
No Man's Sky and Immortal Fenys Rising crying in the corner.
Now that you mentioned, would be great to see no man's sky comparison
@@xSuspect-7
Xbox runs NMS better. Don't know about Fenyx.
@@makokenji4350
Where’s the proof on that? Feel free to drop a link, I’ve never seen a comparison.
Waiting for MBG's reaction to this.
Right 😂👍🏽
Don’t forget crapgamer
@@clarence0075 holy fuck I hate crapgamer
@@MythicMoss really hate that guy after what he tweeted about that dude from the Intiative
You will never get it. MBG makes no comments about PS5 losing. We're looking at an average 1080P image vs 2160P with a few dips to 1800, but MBG has a mouth full of that Mark Cerny Secret Sauce
Patch 1.31 is out now on PS5, I updated and now everything is normal, even the resolution is very good now. Not like before there was some flashing anti aliasing artefacts, it's been fixed.
Just got to SHD level 1000 last night, this game is so much fun. I wish i had a next gen console to play it on though. The 1X is great but a Series X woud be better.
Yeah, 60 fps makes a huge difference with aiming and general combat awerness. Still, great game on X1X, had 600 hours of great experience :D
Good luck on getting XSX in the future and kicking some Black Tusk asses in high framerate!
I’m gonna try to play it on Series X, I bought about a year ago but for some reason the game wouldn’t launch.
I reached SHD lvl 1000 like months ago but i got so drained i stopped playing. But I'm going to play it again because i miss it lol
i got about shd 300 and stopped playing. and 60fps is a massive upgrade for this game it feels so much better
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch.
Free merch > free speech.
Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation.
Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent.
As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves,
and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician.
Ubiquity software is a corporation.
Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
Currently playing on an Xbox One S, and it's beautiful, such an extremely high quality game.
Don't care for the fact that it's technically an outdated GAS title, since it's seasons are already passed up, but it's a absolute marvel of a world they built, never have I seen such exquisite details in terms of a modern wasteland, that puts the concept of a franchise like Fallout to shame.
Has a fair bit of stupid bugs that should of been fixed by now though, they're not game breaking, but it's irritating just to restart certain missions so things can play out properly.
The best part about it is I don’t play game
Well, before the patch when i was playing Division 2 on PS5 everything was working fine and the fast travel was quick. Patch has broke allot
Great presentation, DF is trying their best to be unbiased. Me, I'm impressed to see how great backcompatible games can look on the new consoles. Its all up to the Devs to implement this.
They are definitely not impartial, every time the Series X comes out ahead they make excuses for PS but when PS comes out ahead they remain silent even when there is an obvious reason for the performance difference.
I don't know if its because of personal bias or that they are just afraid to upset the Sony fan base but they definitely do favor Sony.
@@cody9883 I don't get how people get to that conclusion. One day they are "definitely favoring Xbox", next day they are "PS fan boys". It always changes.
@@brunnen153 Comparing frame rates when one console is consistently running at a higher resolution but pointing out the frame drops is a bit deceitful, they need to point out the fact that if all these games were running at the same resolution then the performance delta would shift.
They should also say what setting the games are running at, 4k on low settings is completely different from 4k on high setting and takes considerably less power to do so.
@@brunnen153 They straight up say in the video several times, "Even though the Series X is running at a higher resolution and with full atmospheric/volumetric effects on while the PS5 has NO EFFECTS and is averaging a lower resolution, the PS5 is 'performing better'" - just because it did not dip below 60FPS.
SMH.
Gwad damit! Can't even buy ps5. Waiting to play this game.
Xbox Series X is a beast! It runs at high quality, constant 60fps and yet, no one mentions how the temperatures are considerably cooler then found on the Play Station 5. BOT GDDR6 RAM at 96c is a major problem on the console.
Don't forget how it's absolutely silent. Put a piece of tape over the power button and no one will know that it's powered on, even when it's pushing hard.
@@XDLugia totally true! So quite, it actually gets hotter when it's off in standby, then actually turned on playing Cyberpunk haha!
Now we just need a 60 fps patch for Read Dead 2.
I guess we'd see mass reporting of PS5 heating issues... if it were a major problem.
@@scotchwhisky6094 that's the developer's software game engine that needs optimization, to utilise the new consoles hardware or software capabilities. But yes, they need to patch it like others are doing! 😁
I've been having so much fun replaying this on the Playstation 5 with the patch I didn't even notice this.🤯
lul
Plays better on XSX
Xbox series X is effectively an emulation machine. Backwards compatibility is it’s bread-and-butter. I suspect we are going to continue to see this with any backwards compatible titles and subsequent updates they receive the next generation. I think where we are going to see a real difference in what the consoles are capable of is running genuine next gen games.
What did they do to the HDR in this game? I remember playing the division 2 at launch, the HDR looked fantastic. I tried the updated next gen Series X version the other day, the blacks looked raised, the night time scenes aren't as impactful in HDR.
there's a setting to turn on realistic light levels, people complained night was too dark so there's a light version lmao
Check your settings. This patch messed a bit with mine - turned off neutral lighting, subtitles, etc.
Raise your contrast and reduce the brightness. Those settings are handled bizarrely for HDR in TD2.
Restart ur Xbox. It happened to me too. The HDR was broken as fuck. I rest the Xbox and now it's perfect.
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch.
Free merch > free speech.
Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation.
Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent.
As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves,
and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician.
Ubiquity software is a corporation.
Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
Dang! Jason Ronald wasn't kidding around!
Xbox is the best box! 💚
@@freddywayne PeriodT
Bruh 😂 I remember people saying mark cerny wasn't kidding around so many times seeing this one made me smile
Smart delivery is amazing, I am grateful that xbox has made such a seamless experience for backwards compatibility, and the ease of upgrading last gen games for nextgen.
@@freddywayne PC: Ah you must be new here......
The FPS Drops on Series X are really annoying. I’d prefer lower resolution but stable 60fps all the time.
I have to say game runs and looks great on Series X. Loading times are faster than on One even though I dp play it from external HDD.
Those issues on PS5 must be fixed because even simple things like fog add to atmosphere a lot.
Glad I got the Series X. What a beast!
Um.... They literally said the PS5 version runs by far the best - you utter moron. I have a Series X. I would pick the PS5 version evertytime.
@@mahoobarc1439 Did you even watch the Video? The Series X version kills it. Look at the comments.... PS players blaming anyone they can for a shittier version. 😂🤫
@@mahoobarc1439 So this is what a PS5 fanboy looks taking the L 😂
@@mahoobarc1439 So much 🧂🧂 I can taste it from here
yeah xbox is dead
So pretty much massive ent fucked up the ps5 port, no big deal there, just patch it and all good.
If I was digital foundry I would get sick of all these comments.
I'm convinced people in the comments do not know any better. Some are saying it's damage control BUT literally DF said and showed it was a bug with clear facts and evidence.
This is why I ignore all of these braindead comments. It's literally just a analysis video.
Tbh, they should close comments sections forever 🤷♂️
I know it's utterly baffling. They clearly say "something is wrong" with the ps5 version.
LOL richard sounds like he is on a helicopter
ACG a connoisseur of the console war fanboy battleground 💪
@@Shvabicu Always
Richard isn't in the video you old fart.
It’s not a ps5 version just unlocked the frame rate ps5 and next gen Xbox only run off ssd and it’s just a patch
Seems to me like MS saying Series S was a 1440p 60fps system is complete crap considering most games are targeting 1080p on it.
It can't even stick to 1080p, most games drop to 900p lol
Calling the new consoles 4K 120fps/8K is also bullshit. But they can do it in "easy" workloads.
It remains an excellent price-to-performance ratio for 1080p/60fps. Once again FPS>>Resolution
It's running og Xbox one code so it's locked to 1080p.
Don't buy xbox product is scam and unpopular trash brand
Can we just agree on one thing?
That both xbox and ps5 are great in their own ways, and getting either one of them isn't a bad choice.
Nah ps5 is trash
Na xbox exclusives ain't on the same level
I agree but will fanboys? Not a chance. Nothing is wrong with preferring one over the other(I personally like xbox because I find most single player games boring so exclusives don't matter to me and I like xbox os) but you don't have to tear down the other. Gamers are so immature and stupid
Logic like that is not welcome here, now get your shit together or sling your hook 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Sorry can’t find anything that XSX does right
I’m definitely interested in how they are able to count pixels but DF does amazing work with comparisons.
_Lets head to the comments to see what the experts think_
xD
Sony/xbox fanboy explains why their console are superior:*thanos rap*
But does anyone still play this game? Genuinely curious, I forgot this game existed.
Yes! I play on PS5 and there's usually a queue after work for about a minute. Definitely full servers.
Yea, I'm still playing it on last gen
Buts that’s not why we’re here. We’re here to compare performance not discuss a games popularity
@@guesswho5170 omg stfu. What is wrong with you lol
@@deraffenfan1083 he ain't lying lol
Arh, I was convinced to switch to ps5 and now I wish I stayed with xbox. Guess I'll have to buy it eventually if this keeps up.
Not only is Series X superior to PS5 in terms of visuals. Series X also has superior audio with Dolby Atmos support and DTS: X.
Series x is not superior in terms of visuals X-Fanboy. alot of these games look and play SIMILAR.
@Alâ Tempest Audio is 3D audio. It's no different than Atmos or DTS x. They are all software that relies on hardware. The difference between the three is how they produce the audio for instance: imaging, soundstage, warmth etc..
Do all games support 3D audio on PS5?
Ubisoft "strikes" again.
Scamvision is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch.
Free merch > free speech.
Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation.
Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent.
As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves,
and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician.
Ubiquity software is a corporation.
Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")
PS5 just sucks.
It's not just Ubisoft. Such bugs occur in every single modern game from every Dev Studio. That's what patches are for.
@@dasimparmy2289 Fanboys like you are parading when you got the chance
Dodubt you were saying this with fenyx, ac vahalla lol
Ooooh shit here come the peasants! xD
Are you gonna check out God of War with its new update
why would they, all they did was change fps to 60. nothing special
@@monarchu they added dynamic resolution
@@DeadPhoenix86DP Literally 99% of their videos discuss the difference between different platforms' dynamic resolutions and frame rates. How does this not warrant the creation of a typical Digital Foundry video?
@@monarchu it would be nice to see if it's locked 60, if it ever drops even a little
@@StickyProductionstm Which is no different from the unpatched version which they have already made a video of.
I have zero intrerest in anything other than what they have done, upgrading res and fps is WONDERFUL and I am SO SO grateful to them for this - despite my opinion on 4K.... 1440p/60 would have been just fine. Pointing this out because I felt you said it in a slight negative way, I get that graphical improvements are cool but let's just make sure all devs know, FPS and res bump for older games is SO SO APPRECIATED
Nice bugged PS5 😂
XSX is more powerfull anyway.
These 3rd party titles are gonna be better, more and more often.
Hitman 3 was waayyy better on X. CP77 is running smooooth with quality mode on X. Every early bugs that were found on AC Valhala and Dirt5 are now patched.
DX12 Ultimate is coming, gonna be a nice game changer for devs. Too bad Sony can't use Direct X 😂
XSX is clearly the winner on all 3rd p.
And VRR is the cherry on the cake lol. PS5 still doesn't have it, whereas it's been on Xbox One S, One X and now Series X and S for years lmao.
What about Magic SSD ? 😂 That can't even be upgraded 😂😂
The best I can do is laugh at children's comments, I have my reasons for owning a playstation, other people have their reasons for owning an xbox. It is very silly to want to impose on people that what you have is the best.
💯 true. Intelligent gamer.
It literally must be children making these comments. There's something very sad and wrong if it isn't.
I agree. However how can you not laugh at morons who claimed PS5 ssd act like a gpu and boost graphics or morons who claimed xboxsx will outperform ps5 by at least 25%? We have to mock fanboys. Respect to true gamers though no matter the colors.
Someone with a brain! Nice to meet you!
It's so childish
Seeing how well The Division runs on PC. An employee must've mistook the PS5 for an Intel Iris mini PC.
Well PS5 is no pc
@@ahoy4194 I mean, it’s a console.
Yeah true, I remember playing it with max settings which are likely higher than the settings the new consoles are running it at and it ran fine on my Ryzen 3700x and RX5700 at 1400p/60, it pushed the gpu pretty hard but the cpu usage was pretty low and looking at the power of these new consoles, a few tweaks and optimizations should be able to run this game better with the correct effects.
The load times seem a bit odd because it should be faster, even on the Series X because I remember it being really quick on my M2 drive.
@@ahoy4194 its not a pc but it sure does perform almost as good as a rtx 2080 so it should be able to handle this game easily.
@@MrMilkyCoco no. It’s at least a 1650 super . Not even close to a 2080
I play on Ps5 (i have the game installed in an external 1T SSd and the screen tearing in my 4K Lg is just bad not to say horrible most of the times,
As soon I got to play the DLC "Warlords of NY" i started to notice this a lot.
Dont know if its related but i could bet it is.
I regret to have bought it at all for the ps5 platform..
Anyone got it as bad as I do, and have you done anything to improve it (if that is possible)?
Should have bought it for pc....
and yes, 1440p SHOULD be an option if not the STANDARD RESOLUTION for this Gen.....
Maybe reflections and fog are disabled cuz at some point they wanted to do ray traced reflections and lighting but then scrapped the idea and forgot to turn them back on lol
well since we’re talking about ubi here everything is possible
That’s kind of a big accidental omission if you ask me, but still possible. Hopefully there will be a patch.
HAHAHAHA remember when people was giving shit to Series X cause it was lacking grass in Dirt 5, well what goes around comes around! 😂
Grass? There is a lot more, that is missing!
@@turrican4d599 Same Goes for this game too lots of shit missing compared to XSX
Hello, you could make a video for ghost recon breakpoint for the next gen consoles??
Phil Spencer you genius.
Series X drops more frames
@@zackariasevertson7733 not when you turn on VRR, Series X and S are currently the only consoles with VRR. But even without it, the frame drop is negligible
Lol, another butthurt PS user.
@@michaeld1170 vrr is cosmetic. The drops are still there even when you don't notice them on screen.
@@RazorFastClaws but does it matter when you can't notice them?
If the series s can keep close to this performance level throughout most of the generation it will have proven to be a huge success imo.
It wont, as soon as (next gen) games comes around the Series S will be lucky to hit 1080p in most games at 60fps. Hell i fear we shall see 900p as the standart for that console sooner than people expects. Some Devs has already complained that its holding this generation back.
@@AdaaDK yeah series S was a stupid move. I feel bad for anyone that owns one since they’ll probably buy a memory expansion soon and that plus the series s is the same price as a series x. Anybody who gets one just doesn’t know better
@@AdaaDK series S will fair better once new games come in currently it runs one S games in legacy mode using a legacy GCN emulation architecture. When new games come out it will use big navi properly and the velocity architecture.
It’s absolute rubbish that the S will hold back this gen. The PC has always had to cope with varying levels of performance. It’s not held back PC game development (it’s the consoles in general that do that when they eventually get to 2-3 generations behind PCs).
Lowering the resolution and removing some effects aimed at a single console is far easier than trying to do it for multiple PC configurations.... essentially the work is already done in the PC version.
@@ThePoisonDwarf1 but people have already made series S and X exclusive games, they aren’t all backwards compatibility games. The medium, for instance, has a lot of visual downgrades, and if I remember correctly it only runs at 900p. Late gen games are gonna take a serious hit on the S.
It's clear, Microsoft has put a lot of extra time and effort into backwards compatibility than Sony.
Has nothing to do with Microsoft and honestly that statement makes people look stupid. The problem is ubisoft they the ones who develop to game
Remember when Sony had the performance advantage for 3 months and Sony fans rode it into the sunset? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I like how you act like Control on the PS5 running better than the SX didn't just happen.
@@Cpix38 I like how u act like hitman didn’t have a way bigger performance disparity.
@@PlaystationPortalOwnsSwitchHardly a performance disparity that you can see with the naked eye. You needed DF to show you. Nobody is missing out playing Hitman on Series X.....nobody
@@Cpix38 nobody is missing out playing hitman on ps5 literally nobody
@Alâ lol it runs more stable but it doesn’t run better at all lol. If the ps5 was running hitman at native 4k (which it can’t because the console is to weak) then it would have performance dips as well. If Xbox was running it at 1800 p instead of 4k there wouldn’t be the performance issues even tho it’s only on literally 1 scene that you guys are riding it into the sunset lol. Stretch a little bit first before u reach that hard lol. So u prefer performance and stability over resolution? Keep that same energy though with assassin creed Valhalla then because now after updates it runs smoother on Xbox than ps5 version but with more resolution dips.