Wow! This is a saturday afternoon leading upto christmas. I remember as a kid in the 70's these places were absolutely rammed with people. The atmosphere was fantastic. This makes me so sad to see. Meadowhall was the first nail in the coffin,then the useless tram system,that doesnt go to major hubs of the city. I really miss the hole in the road also. I have never been in the new market on the moor,but then again i stay away from the centre these days,as i dont recognise the people any more. No longer the lovely friendly atmosphere it was. I know we see things differently as we age,but this change is not in my imagination,this is 100% a catastrophic reality of so many towns and cities around the England,and the uk and ireland. The irony of it,is they have made it more pedestrianised than ever,and i have never seen so few actual pedestrians in it.
Its done on purpose to disorient us. Why move the market from the place its been for 750 years. The Castle House Co-op would make a great market with the spiral stair case running through it.
Very rare i go into Sheffield anymore but i remember only ten years back this area where wilkos is would be rammed at this time on a Saturday, especially this time of year.
It is difficult to put into words,how much Sheffield has declined over recent years. I feel such a great sense of loss,for a city that is my place of birth. The city centre is somewhere I avoid if I can. What you haven't picked up is the amount of antisocial behaviour now,compared to just 20 years ago. Beggars,drunks,and groups of people that don't care for the place they live. Profanity coming from every other person you over hear,litter strewn everywhere,the lack of public toilets. It just feels alien to me now. There are still some lovely people here,but the centre is a soulless place to me now. What have we done.
@timawells I meant on your camera. My dad was one of those antisocial drunks in hole in the road. He stopped drinking in the 80's and is still with us today.
@@atmywitsend1984 I am a bit reluctant to film the behaviour of people on camera. I got one screaming at me filming the old Coles corner, I shouted at the top of my voice shut up. I asked for my leaving present from HSBC to go to the homeless.
@@atmywitsend1984 you want to there where Tim is filming about 4pm, crowds of rabble disembark buses and trams all shouting and whooping and hollering. I mean school kids are kids but come on, you would be beating that lot with a big stick out in the old empire.......!
@timawells Fair enough. There are many nut cases on the streets these days. You need to keep yourself safe. I enjoy listening to your old memories in these videos. I know you come from a place of love. Though to some it would appear your videos are negative,I see that all you are doing is trying to preserve what we hold dear. It is disappearing so rapidly.
So very disappointing to see Sheffield now Tim. Remember Woolworths , British Home Stores , Timpsons shoe shop. Across road opposite Woolworths was House of Curls ( you went upstairs) . I used to go most Saturdays for my cut & blowdry. Sheffield is just a mess 😡
I remember going in the Cannon, back in the 70s. A rough pub but everyone loved it. As for Dixon lane I remember all the fruit barrows ‘Costermongers’. All shouting, lively. Sheffield council have sabotaged everything.
I have been told to suck it up and do positive content Leon. I do. I certainly don't do negative content to get more views. Some people are sleep walking through reality.
You're correct Tim, Wilco on the Haymarket was indeed Woolworths before. Spent many a penny and time there back in the 80's & 90's. Remember many-a-time, waiting in the car on Dixon Ln waiting for our lass to do some last minute shopping, who, I met outside the Fish tank dar'nt Oil in't Rooed. Wiggy's in Fitzwilliam Square is where we bought our first 3 piece suite too. Great times back then.
Although i still go into sheffield city center i hate it now,in my yuth i went to places like rebels yorkshireman wontech roxy the peace gardens & where is the eggbox? oh yeah there is a modern version of it down from the City Hall - SHEFFIELD IS DEAD TO ME NOW
Meadowhell was the beginning of the end for the City centre and online shopping the death knell, , used to catch the 52 bus into town in the 70s & 80s the Wicker was busy, Haymarket area busier and the High Street was packed as was the Moor, so many shops, so many people.
I still blame the council, closing the hole in the rd, trashing High St with the super tram and pushing cars out of the city. Manchester has Trafford and their town centre is alive.
Lidl in the building which was once John Walsh and then Rackham's...that says it all! From watching your videos it would seem Sheffield has the worst town centre in South Yorkshire and to say it's one of the biggest cities in the country, it's a real disgrace. Some of the streets look really iffy. It's a real disgrace Tim and makes me so sad remembering how it once was.
Went to watch SW a month ago, I thought I would go into the city centre the next day - I was totally shocked! Even when I said to the bloke I sit to at the match, I was going in to town, he said it was full of spice heads and it was and that was around the area of the the hole in the road. So sad, it was magical at this time year, years ago, Christmas and the fantastic lights!
I remember getting off the bus there when I was a kid and you could barely move it was that busy. There's a great video of the market for walk like a panther by Jarvis Cocker and sung by Tony Christie. Sheffield summed up with the lyrics my home town looks like a mess, like a jumble sale left out in the rain Sheffield motto must be if it looks good make it crap, knock it down and build a hotel on it
Hi Tim. Thanks for another great video. I remember back when I was a very young child going into town with my parents in the very early 80's like 1980 and on. It was really busy indeed. So busy you could hardly move around properly. I am Sheffield born and bred too as they say. They were a lot better days back then and earlier. Not like it is now. Which is just ruined by the council as always.T hink it's just disgusting what is being done to our once great and fantastic city.
Lovely memories ❤ Haymarket went to Tammy Girl clothes shop and Wimpy. Cinema at Fitzalan square - Cats from outer space😺 Remember a couple of shoe shops on High street. Was a regular at the children's Saturday cinema club at ABC. Rebels on Dixon lane. All in the 80's not so great there in the 90's onwards.
I missed ever going in the Odeon in Barkers Pool it must have been brilliant. I love the ABC, Gaumont and one in the newsreal theatre in Fitzalan. I think Sheffield died in 94.
@@timawells no way, you missed the Gaumont! We missed Star Wars there as my Mum said the queue was too long and took us to Watership down at the Anvil instead. I used to Love going to lots of the Stationers- Andrews, Hibberts art shop and the one opposite Debenhams at the top of the moor, think there was one down chapel walk too.
@@zoymills9868 I loved the Gaumont so plush. ABC was bigger but not so exclusive. Did you go on the Castle House father Christmas ride? I was still going in Castle House when it was open to walk up the spiral staircase.
@@timawells Beautiful stair case, agree it should be made more of a thing. Santa was just top of fargate or Redgates for me. Quadrant was the stationers opposite Debenhams on the moor.
@@zoymills9868 They have hidden the stair case. I can't believe you never went on that fantastic ride in the Castle House to see Santa and get a present. It had a moving screen to give the illusion of a ride. I also went to Redgate every time we went town, pestered my mother and father.
I was in Sheffield today, and given the time stamp I missed being in your video by 5 or 10 minutes. The real irony is as I stood waiting for the tram, looking up towards Burger King ( near to Wendy's Burger bar by MacDonalds) I thought how dead is this city, it is like an above ground cemetery.
This has always been the more neglected part of town. It's like the centre only really exists from high street to the moor. I haven't ventured past Fitzalan square for about 20 years.
Instead of working people (when I say working, people manufacturing goods to be shipped around the world, goods stamped made in Sheffield, finest cutlery you've ever clapped eyes on not keyboard tappers) doing their shopping, you've got every nationality just milling and acting about, its just a rammel.
Everything is so untidy Richard the hole in the road area looked so clean and streamlined the Market Sq area now looks like one big toilet. It reflects the lack of thought in the city any more.
Stone house was never the same after the Courtyard went. I grew up in Anston from 66 to 2014, other than 3 years at Sothall Sheffield. Anston is completely ruined from my childhood.
When I was a kid in 90s I used to go and shop with my nan every weekend if it was town or meadowhall we also went to castle house as well when it used to be a shopping centre with floors up and down and we want to castle market and sheaf market too back in the day as well the 90s used to have loads stores and more affordable as well I miss them days and now it's just a total mess now
Equally to the hole in the road I miss Castle House Co Op, they had a lady on a high stool operating the lift asking what floor you wanted, it also had them sliding cages as the lift doors then to go down youd use that grand spiral staircase, Sheffield now looks post apolacyptic to what it was😢
me myself and my mum off from sheffield i am deeply unhappy our city has turned into this it is nowhere near how it used to be the christmas markets are crap this year that's where we went today the best part was drinking in the bar i think it was a big wast of money with the new market should have revamped the old one also so many homeless and drunks safest place tbh to get a bus is cruceble
I lot I agree with here but sorry not the hole in the road, that was a sh*t hole, muggers paradise and when it rained a miserable place. It looked a good idea but it didn’t work.
The hole in the road would have worked if maintained. It was brilliant when raining coming up the escalators from Pond St station and out at the bottom of Angel St and down Bank St and Queen St. Its far worse now in Market place, you are far more likely to be mugged.
Wow! This is a saturday afternoon leading upto christmas. I remember as a kid in the 70's these places were absolutely rammed with people. The atmosphere was fantastic. This makes me so sad to see. Meadowhall was the first nail in the coffin,then the useless tram system,that doesnt go to major hubs of the city. I really miss the hole in the road also. I have never been in the new market on the moor,but then again i stay away from the centre these days,as i dont recognise the people any more. No longer the lovely friendly atmosphere it was. I know we see things differently as we age,but this change is not in my imagination,this is 100% a catastrophic reality of so many towns and cities around the England,and the uk and ireland. The irony of it,is they have made it more pedestrianised than ever,and i have never seen so few actual pedestrians in it.
Its done on purpose to disorient us. Why move the market from the place its been for 750 years. The Castle House Co-op would make a great market with the spiral stair case running through it.
Very rare i go into Sheffield anymore but i remember only ten years back this area where wilkos is would be rammed at this time on a Saturday, especially this time of year.
Its got worse since lockdown.
Thanks Tim the reference to Crazy Daisy's brought back some memories Great times.
I miss so much George.
It is difficult to put into words,how much Sheffield has declined over recent years. I feel such a great sense of loss,for a city that is my place of birth. The city centre is somewhere I avoid if I can. What you haven't picked up is the amount of antisocial behaviour now,compared to just 20 years ago. Beggars,drunks,and groups of people that don't care for the place they live. Profanity coming from every other person you over hear,litter strewn everywhere,the lack of public toilets. It just feels alien to me now. There are still some lovely people here,but the centre is a soulless place to me now. What have we done.
I think I mentioned how the hole in the road had issues, but its now ten times worse on the surface.
@timawells I meant on your camera. My dad was one of those antisocial drunks in hole in the road. He stopped drinking in the 80's and is still with us today.
@@atmywitsend1984 I am a bit reluctant to film the behaviour of people on camera. I got one screaming at me filming the old Coles corner, I shouted at the top of my voice shut up. I asked for my leaving present from HSBC to go to the homeless.
@@atmywitsend1984 you want to there where Tim is filming about 4pm, crowds of rabble disembark buses and trams all shouting and whooping and hollering.
I mean school kids are kids but come on, you would be beating that lot with a big stick out in the old empire.......!
@timawells Fair enough. There are many nut cases on the streets these days. You need to keep yourself safe. I enjoy listening to your old memories in these videos. I know you come from a place of love. Though to some it would appear your videos are negative,I see that all you are doing is trying to preserve what we hold dear. It is disappearing so rapidly.
So very disappointing to see Sheffield now Tim.
Remember Woolworths , British Home Stores , Timpsons shoe shop. Across road opposite Woolworths was House of Curls ( you went upstairs) . I used to go most Saturdays for my cut & blowdry.
Sheffield is just a mess 😡
I missed so much Shirley like Dunns Corner. My head spins at time with the info. I make the odd mistake.
So much has gone Tim🥲
@@shirleysmith1713 I scratch the surface Shirley. So much went before I was born in 1964.
Remember with love the Penthouse on Dixon Lane especially Wednesday night 10p drinks and loads of lovely nurses! Happy Memories❤.
I can't remember that, but the is zero life on there now but for the Norfolk arms.
The council should be fined for all these buildings being knocked down. They give planning permission and should have inspectors visit the site
I remember going in the Cannon, back in the 70s. A rough pub but everyone loved it. As for Dixon lane I remember all the fruit barrows ‘Costermongers’. All shouting, lively.
Sheffield council have sabotaged everything.
Dixon Lane has just become shops by the time I remember Alan.
As far as I know the Hen and Chicken has gone.
Sex cinema at the Wicker or Pond St/Fiesta?
@@011258stooie I was too young to use them.😂😂
An excellent video with an EXCELLENT POINT. ❤📽
I have been told to suck it up and do positive content Leon. I do. I certainly don't do negative content to get more views. Some people are sleep walking through reality.
I’m shocked at how quiet it is and the lack of businesses on Haymarket and Exchange Street. It used to be bustling 6 days a week.
Seeing is believing Richard. Its worse being there.
You're correct Tim, Wilco on the Haymarket was indeed Woolworths before. Spent many a penny and time there back in the 80's & 90's. Remember many-a-time, waiting in the car on Dixon Ln waiting for our lass to do some last minute shopping, who, I met outside the Fish tank dar'nt Oil in't Rooed. Wiggy's in Fitzwilliam Square is where we bought our first 3 piece suite too. Great times back then.
At least we have our memories. I hate meadowhall and I was a regular when I worked in Town.
oh yeah shambles, brought back some great memories tim cheers great video, looking forward to part 2
I do want to report good stuff, the sad thing is the council lurch from one crisis to another.
Although i still go into sheffield city center i hate it now,in my yuth i went to places like rebels yorkshireman wontech roxy the peace gardens & where is the eggbox? oh yeah there is a modern version of it down from the City Hall - SHEFFIELD IS DEAD TO ME NOW
I give 1994 as the date is started to really die. But closing off Fargate to cars in 74 and The Moor in 79 started the demise much earlier.
Tim have you ever looked into how many new flats have been built in the city and who for thanks
Meadowhell was the beginning of the end for the City centre and online shopping the death knell, , used to catch the 52 bus into town in the 70s & 80s the Wicker was busy, Haymarket area busier and the High Street was packed as was the Moor, so many shops, so many people.
I still blame the council, closing the hole in the rd, trashing High St with the super tram and pushing cars out of the city. Manchester has Trafford and their town centre is alive.
Lidl in the building which was once John Walsh and then Rackham's...that says it all! From watching your videos it would seem Sheffield has the worst town centre in South Yorkshire and to say it's one of the biggest cities in the country, it's a real disgrace. Some of the streets look really iffy. It's a real disgrace Tim and makes me so sad remembering how it once was.
Yes Myra coming up from the hole in the rd on the escalator at Christmas was wunderbar. What has replaced it is disgusting. All the best Tim
Went to watch SW a month ago, I thought I would go into the city centre the next day - I was totally shocked! Even when I said to the bloke I sit to at the match, I was going in to town, he said it was full of spice heads and it was and that was around the area of the the hole in the road. So sad, it was magical at this time year, years ago, Christmas and the fantastic lights!
Yes Tim at this time of year Sheffield was fantastic. They have crashed this end of town worse than they did The Moor for 15 years.
It's seems a tale of two city's Tim. At this Time.
Yes the 2nd Video will start to show that Robert.
I remember getting off the bus there when I was a kid and you could barely move it was that busy.
There's a great video of the market for walk like a panther by Jarvis Cocker and sung by Tony Christie.
Sheffield summed up with the lyrics my home town looks like a mess, like a jumble sale left out in the rain
Sheffield motto must be if it looks good make it crap, knock it down and build a hotel on it
Even where redeveloped it looks a mess.
Hi Tim. Thanks for another great video.
I remember back when I was a very young child going into town with my parents in the very early 80's like 1980 and on. It was really busy indeed. So busy you could hardly move around properly. I am Sheffield born and bred too as they say. They were a lot better days back then and earlier. Not like it is now. Which is just ruined by the council as always.T hink it's just disgusting what is being done to our once great and fantastic city.
The issue Simon these lot aren't proud of our heritage and I doubt most have the pedigree.
@@timawells true.
Thanks for posting this video Tim.
Its sad that I have posted it, losing the hole in the rd and putting the super tram down High St started the death of Sheffield.
That bakery on the corner of fitzalan square was a cinema which burned down like so many Sheffield buildings did. Saw ET in there
Cooplands and it was the News real that became the Classic cinema.
Lovely memories ❤
Haymarket went to Tammy Girl clothes shop and Wimpy.
Cinema at Fitzalan square - Cats from outer space😺
Remember a couple of shoe shops on High street.
Was a regular at the children's Saturday cinema club at ABC.
Rebels on Dixon lane.
All in the 80's not so great there in the 90's onwards.
I missed ever going in the Odeon in Barkers Pool it must have been brilliant. I love the ABC, Gaumont and one in the newsreal theatre in Fitzalan. I think Sheffield died in 94.
@@timawells no way, you missed the Gaumont! We missed Star Wars there as my Mum said the queue was too long and took us to Watership down at the Anvil instead.
I used to Love going to lots of the Stationers- Andrews, Hibberts art shop and the one opposite Debenhams at the top of the moor, think there was one down chapel walk too.
@@zoymills9868 I loved the Gaumont so plush. ABC was bigger but not so exclusive. Did you go on the Castle House father Christmas ride? I was still going in Castle House when it was open to walk up the spiral staircase.
@@timawells Beautiful stair case, agree it should be made more of a thing. Santa was just top of fargate or Redgates for me.
Quadrant was the stationers opposite Debenhams on the moor.
@@zoymills9868 They have hidden the stair case. I can't believe you never went on that fantastic ride in the Castle House to see Santa and get a present. It had a moving screen to give the illusion of a ride. I also went to Redgate every time we went town, pestered my mother and father.
I was in Sheffield today, and given the time stamp I missed being in your video by 5 or 10 minutes. The real irony is as I stood waiting for the tram, looking up towards Burger King ( near to Wendy's Burger bar by MacDonalds) I thought how dead is this city, it is like an above ground cemetery.
This was on Saturday last weekend I think.
The super tram wrecked High st along with closing down the hole in the road.
This has always been the more neglected part of town.
It's like the centre only really exists from high street to the moor.
I haven't ventured past Fitzalan square for about 20 years.
The pictures show it as more packed and better than the rest of Sheffield back in the 70s.
Instead of working people (when I say working, people manufacturing goods to be shipped around the world, goods stamped made in Sheffield, finest cutlery you've ever clapped eyes on not keyboard tappers) doing their shopping, you've got every nationality just milling and acting about, its just a rammel.
Everything is so untidy Richard the hole in the road area looked so clean and streamlined the Market Sq area now looks like one big toilet. It reflects the lack of thought in the city any more.
Nice work Tim. Very saddened to hear the Stonehouse has gone. BTW did you grow up artound Dinnington? I was wondering if N Anston has changed much?
Stone house was never the same after the Courtyard went. I grew up in Anston from 66 to 2014, other than 3 years at Sothall Sheffield. Anston is completely ruined from my childhood.
Tim did you film the flag flying on the town hall.
Sean I missed the opportunity, it may be on my next video on Saturday, but I didn't go out of my way to do it.
@timawells I have just seen a video from Sky news Australia. I felt so embarrassed
Oh God.. what flag have they put up???
@@LoadingRetroGames I haven't seen it,but I can guess it is going to be something totally woke.
@LoadingRetroGames the video is called "grotesque Sheffield town hall"
When I was a kid in 90s I used to go and shop with my nan every weekend if it was town or meadowhall we also went to castle house as well when it used to be a shopping centre with floors up and down and we want to castle market and sheaf market too back in the day as well the 90s used to have loads stores and more affordable as well I miss them days and now it's just a total mess now
I loved Castle house and would love to see the spiral stair case re opened. Its hidden behind barriers.
Equally to the hole in the road I miss Castle House Co Op, they had a lady on a high stool operating the lift asking what floor you wanted, it also had them sliding cages as the lift doors then to go down youd use that grand spiral staircase, Sheffield now looks post apolacyptic to what it was😢
I bet so many never saw that lady on the stool in the lift. The good old days.
me myself and my mum off from sheffield i am deeply unhappy our city has turned into this it is nowhere near how it used to be the christmas markets are crap this year that's where we went today the best part was drinking in the bar i think it was a big wast of money with the new market should have revamped the old one also so many homeless and drunks safest place tbh to get a bus is cruceble
I show case the market today, I didn't like to say it was awful, so tacky and like you say so many undesirables.
what a dump, glad i escaped
Where did you escape to?
Correct Tim it’s a soulless shithole now
I think the modernised Moor is even more soulless.
Everyone just goes Meadowhall and parking is not cheap in Sheffield. More needs to be done for the highstreet.
It looks to me as though they only want to Urbanise the city centre, its been crashed on purpose.
Used to be Classic cinema next to the bank.
I only went there once, not very nice inside.
I remember tramps clothes shop, bottom of dixon Lane.
Sheffield is done.
Well and truly shafted John
Sheffield died when they got rid of hole in the rd.
I think it was all staged. Stop cars on Fargate 74, The Moor 79 and that awful Manpower building and then the hole in the rode 94.
Have a pint in the Hen and Chickens for me.
I think its now closed.
Oh that's a shame
Wolworths was down the Moor
There were two BHS and Woolworths one on the Moor and the other on the Haymarket.
You can do passports online dipthick
Please apply for one and leave.
;)
I lot I agree with here but sorry not the hole in the road, that was a sh*t hole, muggers paradise and when it rained a miserable place. It looked a good idea but it didn’t work.
The hole in the road would have worked if maintained. It was brilliant when raining coming up the escalators from Pond St station and out at the bottom of Angel St and down Bank St and Queen St. Its far worse now in Market place, you are far more likely to be mugged.