Tested other day a 103ci, the primary is right on my legs, I'm too short. This might give the power I'm looking for, but might get a 4.5 tank before! 😂 Thanks for the dyno charts, proven results!
This should get you started. Hit us up if you have more questions. www.sscycle.com/search/?keyword=sportster%201250#keyword=sportster%201250&category=1%7CPerformance%20Kits
If I was to turbocharge an engine like this, should I not go higher then this kit? Or can the CNC case handle the extra compression & power, from the turbocharger? And what does S & S think about Buells? Especially the later engines. Is there any great improvements you can offer even them? Or are most of the stock Buell parts, that much greater then the Sportster engines, and there's not that much room for improvement, other then displacement? I can go to Hammer Performance, or NHRS for increased displacement, but I want to mix & match what I can, because I want to support all you great American companies. Is there any great improvement & innovation you can offer for the Buell Blast & XB models? I really like your flywheels. Are the later Buell flywheel & engines so great, you don't want to bother improving them? Or can't, for some reasons?
+RoyalSilver&Gold S&S Does make some performance products for Buell motorcycles from 1994-'02 models. Check out our website, and download our catalog. Since there were a fairly small number of these bikes around, we couldn't justify the effort to develop new kits for he later models, and of course now Buell is out of business. We really never made anything for the Buell Blast. Thanks for your interest.
My 2014 Sportster"48" with a stage one download and Screaming Eagle hi-flo air filter and Vance and Hines short shot staggered pipes is plenty fast...you might say Spooky Fast!
My 1999 sportster that I bought recently it came with a damaged piston, the cylinders are fine somehow, but since the bike came with a SS Super E carb and air filter, but the bike was already changed, because originally it was a 883cc, now it was a 1200cc, now my answer is the next, can I buy a SS 1250cc piston/ ring kit/ cylinder set and use my original stock heads?
You can go to 1250 with 1200 heads - but not with the stock 883 heads. The 1250 bore is too big. But if you change to 1200cc heads, you can use the 1250 kit!
Is it acceptable to use feuling hydraulic lifters for the kit or is it strictly only S&S? Want THE best for my bike. Also how hard is it to start the bike after all of these upgrade?
Starting is not impacted by kit install. We recommend S&S hydraulic lifters when using this kit (we have not tested with other manufacturers parts and could not guarantee positive results)
If I get the 1200cc big bore kit, would I have to also upgrade my exhaust and air cleaner or could I swap motors and use the same parts? I currently have a 14' iron 883 running V&H short shots, stage 1 arlen ness big sucker.
In order to get the expected performance from a displacement increase, it is essential that you upgrade the intake and exhaust. More air, more power! Since you have already done that, you should be OK. We don't have test data about those particular components, so we can't accurately predict what kind of performance you will get in the end. "Individual results may vary". The other thing that we offer is the calibration files for our component combination. The calibrations that we offer were developed with S&S intake and exhaust, and will probably not be optimum when other components are used. Bottom line, it should work fine, but you will probably have to have somebody tune your EFI on the dyno.
Do you guys have any maps for this job? I've checked the power commander website as well as yours. The map I've got on there now is for the stock 883 with the Vance and Hines short shots. Bike runs fine at lower speeds, but upwards of 65, it's running a bit lean when cruising.
Your best bet would be to contact DynoJet. They may have something for the Power Vision tuner, instead of the Power Commander. Your second best would be to contact your local S&S Dealer.
How much does a set up like this go for. I was about to drop the money for the 1200 kit but seeing this now makes me want this. If eventually I will doing this anyway. I'd just like a ball park figure on what I'm looking to spend.
Here's an approximate listing for the bike we had. Mufflers $351.95 Air Cleaner $269.95 1250cc kit $989.95 CNC Head Porting $950.00 Cams $299.95 Pinion Gear $133.95 Dynojet® Power Vision Tuner $549.95 Total $3534.70
Hi there, just curious... What kind of compression ratios are you getting with the S&S Heads? i know that with the stock heads paired with some good pistons you can get a slight bump in compression. I heard that using 1200 heads will drop it back down a little bit. for example ive seen combos of a 1200cc top end kit (pistons and cylinders they got almost 10.7:1 ish compression vs 10.1:1 CR with 1200cc kit and 1200 heads. THANKS! Great vids btw!
I'm looking at getting a used 883 engine to build a custom bike. What year engine do I need to look for in order NOT to have any electronics? I want old school carburation.
All Evolution Sportster models will have electronic ignition, but could be converted to point ignition if you really want to. All 2007 and later engines were fuel injected. so anything 1986-2006 will be carbureted.
Solid mount Evo Sportys ended in 2003. Those are by far the best supported for chopping. Rubbermounts have some options but if chopping go solid mount.
Yes you certainly can skip to the 1250 kit. Riders who want to go this far, generally know what they want, and they want it all in one go. You still need the mufflers and the air cleaner, but most will not go through all the steps, but will do this all at once. Just a note: If finances won't allow the whole project to be done at once, you could start with the 1200 kit, and the cylinders can later be bored to accept the 1250 pistons. Just keep in mind that although the 1200 kit and 1250 kit are about the same price, if you have an 883, your stock heads will not work on the 1250 kit unless they are CNC ported.
I have a 2015 iron with V&H staggered short shots, a hi flow breather and a V&H tuner. I want to upgrade it to a 1250 kit can I use the stock heads and cams with it or will I have to upgrade those also?
Stock 883 heads are not compatible with the 1250cc kit. However, if you have them CNC ported here at S&S, they will be work with the 1250cc kit. Stock 1200cc heads will work if you have a set on hand. You could run the stock cams, but if you get your heads ported, you can go with the high lift valve springs and use a higher lift cam to take advantage of the increase flow.
I have allready the 3-1/2" Bore Cylinder Set for 1200cc,not the 1250 kit. Can i use the S&S® Super Stock® Cylinder Head Kit For 3-1/2" and 3-5/8" Bore 1991-'03 HD® Sportster Models? My bike is sporster 1996 year!
Sorry for asking again but I want to be sure. I have this kit, www.sscycle.com/products/883-to-1200cc-conversion-kit-for-1986-2018-hd-sportster-models-silver-finish/ Will I need other pistons?
I have a 95 Sportster so I don't have to reprogram the efi. I just have a carburetor (ˈkärb(y)əˌrādər/). I don't understand the title of the series of videos. No Guts To Glory. I have heard the phrase No Guts, No Glory meaning you must put in effort to have a desired effect. But I don't understand No Guts "TO" Glory. Please enlighten me. Thanks. Good video. I have a 1200cc kit on my bike installed by the previous owner and wanted to see what all was replaced. It has all the power I want.
A slight paraphrase. If you have ridden a stock 883, you will understand the "not guts" part. If you boost it to 1200 or 1250cc it will be glorious by comparison!
Great videos guys, I have a 1999 1200 sportster and want to go to the 1275cc kit that hammer just came out with. Do you think their is much of a difference from the 1250 and 1275?
Joe, Here's a list of parts and the retail prices. Keep in mind that you'll have to tune the EFI, so we've included a Dynojet Power vision tuner in the list. We have a calibration that you can download for free on the S&S website at www.sscycle.com/tune-files/power-vision/ Mufflers $351.95 Air Cleaner $269.95 1250cc kit $989.95 CNC Head Porting $950.00 Cams $299.95 Pinion Gear $133.95 Dynojet® Power Vision Tuner $549.95 Total $3534.70 We didn't include the labor to install all this stuff. You'll have to negotiate that with your local dealer!
+S&S Cycle, Inc I live outside the US I can have all parts shipped, but shipping my cylinder heads back and forth is gonna cost me more than the actual head porting. What options do I have to get a 2015 Iron as much HP as possible?
Here is MSRP for the parts 1250 cylinder and piston kit... $1,006.05 CNC Porting (your heads)........$950.00 Cams.........................................$384.25 Pinion Gear...............................$174.00 Pushrods and Cover kit...........$260.93
so i've been looking into doing some upgrades shown in the first 3 videos of this series but was looking at using a vigilante ez fuel controller to support the mods i was just wondering if you support tunes for it or do you deal exclusively with the dynojet power vision as i know companies in the diesel tuner community who only support tunes for 1 or 2 companies
Keep in mind that the Vigilante device is a calibration loader only. If Vigilante has a calibration for this engine configuration, it will work for you, but we don't know what is available from Vigilante as far as calibrations for Sportster® models. The files we have for the Dynojet Power Vision were created specifically for this combination of components. The Power Vision has the added advantage of actually being a tuner. That means you can edit the calibrations if need be. However, we'd recommend that any changes be done by a professional tuner! Tuning errors can be costly.
I'm planning on doing these same modifications to my Iron rather soon, though I want to get a new set of heads instead of porting the old ones. Could you recommend a good set for the 1250 kit?
@@SSCycleInc Hey, do you guys still sell the cnc ported heads outright? I am located in Cape Breton in Canada so I'm not sure who the local dealer would be?
@@jonnymac8925 I recommend connecting with your local dealer and starting the process that way. You can find them via our site, here: www.sscycle.com/dealer-center/dealer-locator/
We do have S&S dealers in Mexico, so it would be best to look them up on our dealer locator. Here's a link. www.sscycle.com/dealer-center/dealer-locator
Hi, I have a 99 Sportster XL 883 and I wanna upgrade it to 1200cc. What is your recommendation about the all parts or kit to buy? (in order to get the best power)
+Luis Soto Here is the recipe. The first thing we recommend is to replace your mufflers with a pair of S&S Slip-ons. That uncorks your exhaust. Next, either an S&S air cleaner and a jet kit, or better yet, an S&S Super E Carb kit. Then you're ready to install the 1200cc kit and make some power. The stock cams are really pretty good, but you can squeeze some more top end HP out of that engine with a set of S&S cams. That's where the law of diminishing returns comes into play. The mufflers, carb, and 1200cc kit will be your best horsepower bargain. The cams will make more power, but the cost per HP increases. Besides, you can always add cams afterward if you want to. The main thing is to get in a stronger wind ASAP!
Folks who go this far in hopping up their engine are generally not too concerned with fuel economy. With that said, it depends on how you drive. If you drive conservatively, fuel economy will be about the same. But that's the problem. It is a rare individual who can resist twisting the grip when this much power is on tap. That's why you do this in the first place.
I twist too much as it is with an 883, I sometimes come back from a meet some nights fill up & think "how did I burn that much fuel"? I still want the 1200 ha..
Here's a list of the parts and prices. Mufflers $351.95 Air Cleaner $269.95 1250cc kit $989.95 CNC Head Porting $950.00 Cams $299.95 Pinion Gear $133.95 Dynojet® Power Vision Tuner $549.95 Total $3534.70 That doesn't include the labor to install all this stuff. You'll have to negotiate that with your local dealer!
+KoG GoK Guys who go this far in performance upgrades generally are not concerned about gas mileage, but here's the facts. We have determined that it takes about 12-15 horsepower to go 55 mph, and it takes a certain amount of fuel to make that much power. So if you drive 55, your mileage will still be about what it was. Let's be real though. That's not likely to happen. Power corrupts, and absolute power....with that kind of power available at the twist of your wrist, it takes a rider with an iron will not to twist it.
+KoG GoK Since you have the 'busa for your speed fix, if you're looking for something a little more practical and economical for every day commuting or whatever, think about just going to the 1200 kit and intake and exhaust. The difference between that and a stock 883 will be amazing, but it'll still be a good daily driver. Check out Step 2 in this series. ua-cam.com/video/GQz9ZMo5drk/v-deo.html
Comes out to about the same price if you're buying a used 883 and then getting the upgrades. If you're buying all new though, it's definitely cheaper just to get a much larger bike.
but if you love YOUR bike it's your bike, selling it just to get another would just feel wrong I couldn't do that. plus the 1400 - 1650 would be so much heavier. What model do you have out of interest?
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These S&S videos are what you need to keep on making! Its awesome to see the riders reactions, my favorite is the 124 S&S tryouts!!!
It was a fun bike to ride way before the 1200 conversion kit it just makes it better
Tested other day a 103ci, the primary is right on my legs, I'm too short. This might give the power I'm looking for, but might get a 4.5 tank before! 😂 Thanks for the dyno charts, proven results!
What is cost of all four stages in 883?
I don't see any links to these things. Really curious about prices
This should get you started. Hit us up if you have more questions.
www.sscycle.com/search/?keyword=sportster%201250#keyword=sportster%201250&category=1%7CPerformance%20Kits
If I was to turbocharge an engine like this, should I not go higher then this kit? Or can the CNC case handle the extra compression & power, from the turbocharger?
And what does S & S think about Buells? Especially the later engines. Is there any great improvements you can offer even them? Or are most of the stock Buell parts, that much greater then the Sportster engines, and there's not that much room for improvement, other then displacement?
I can go to Hammer Performance, or NHRS for increased displacement, but I want to mix & match what I can, because I want to support all you great American companies. Is there any great improvement & innovation you can offer for the Buell Blast & XB models? I really like your flywheels. Are the later Buell flywheel & engines so great, you don't want to bother improving them? Or can't, for some reasons?
I must also mention, I don't yet know all the differences, between the Sportster & Buell engines.
I apologize, the 2nd company's name is NRHS.
+RoyalSilver&Gold S&S Does make some performance products for Buell motorcycles from 1994-'02 models. Check out our website, and download our catalog.
Since there were a fairly small number of these bikes around, we couldn't justify the effort to develop new kits for he later models, and of course now Buell is out of business. We really never made anything for the Buell Blast. Thanks for your interest.
My 2014 Sportster"48" with a stage one download and Screaming Eagle hi-flo air filter and Vance and Hines short shot staggered pipes is plenty fast...you might say Spooky Fast!
My 1999 sportster that I bought recently it came with a damaged piston, the cylinders are fine somehow, but since the bike came with a SS Super E carb and air filter, but the bike was already changed, because originally it was a 883cc, now it was a 1200cc, now my answer is the next, can I buy a SS 1250cc piston/ ring kit/ cylinder set and use my original stock heads?
You can go to 1250 with 1200 heads - but not with the stock 883 heads. The 1250 bore is too big. But if you change to 1200cc heads, you can use the 1250 kit!
Is it acceptable to use feuling hydraulic lifters for the kit or is it strictly only S&S? Want THE best for my bike. Also how hard is it to start the bike after all of these upgrade?
Starting is not impacted by kit install. We recommend S&S hydraulic lifters when using this kit (we have not tested with other manufacturers parts and could not guarantee positive results)
If I get the 1200cc big bore kit, would I have to also upgrade my exhaust and air cleaner or could I swap motors and use the same parts? I currently have a 14' iron 883 running V&H short shots, stage 1 arlen ness big sucker.
In order to get the expected performance from a displacement increase, it is essential that you upgrade the intake and exhaust. More air, more power! Since you have already done that, you should be OK. We don't have test data about those particular components, so we can't accurately predict what kind of performance you will get in the end. "Individual results may vary". The other thing that we offer is the calibration files for our component combination. The calibrations that we offer were developed with S&S intake and exhaust, and will probably not be optimum when other components are used. Bottom line, it should work fine, but you will probably have to have somebody tune your EFI on the dyno.
Was the 27 tooth drive gear changed out for the 29 tooth gear that comes ont he stock 1200?
Do you guys have any maps for this job? I've checked the power commander website as well as yours. The map I've got on there now is for the stock 883 with the Vance and Hines short shots. Bike runs fine at lower speeds, but upwards of 65, it's running a bit lean when cruising.
Your best bet would be to contact DynoJet. They may have something for the Power Vision tuner, instead of the Power Commander. Your second best would be to contact your local S&S Dealer.
How much does a set up like this go for. I was about to drop the money for the 1200 kit but seeing this now makes me want this. If eventually I will doing this anyway. I'd just like a ball park figure on what I'm looking to spend.
Here's an approximate listing for the bike we had.
Mufflers $351.95
Air Cleaner $269.95
1250cc kit $989.95
CNC Head Porting $950.00
Cams $299.95
Pinion Gear $133.95
Dynojet® Power Vision Tuner $549.95
Total $3534.70
Hi there, just curious... What kind of compression ratios are you getting with the S&S Heads?
i know that with the stock heads paired with some good pistons you can get a slight bump in compression. I heard that using 1200 heads will drop it back down a little bit. for example ive seen combos of a 1200cc top end kit (pistons and cylinders they got almost 10.7:1 ish compression vs 10.1:1 CR with 1200cc kit and 1200 heads.
THANKS! Great vids btw!
I'm looking at getting a used 883 engine to build a custom bike. What year engine do I need to look for in order NOT to have any electronics? I want old school carburation.
All Evolution Sportster models will have electronic ignition, but could be converted to point ignition if you really want to. All 2007 and later engines were fuel injected. so anything 1986-2006 will be carbureted.
Solid mount Evo Sportys ended in 2003. Those are by far the best supported for chopping. Rubbermounts have some options but if chopping go solid mount.
So you can do these steps instead of the 2nd video with 1200 cc kit and the third video with the cams?
Yes you certainly can skip to the 1250 kit. Riders who want to go this far, generally know what they want, and they want it all in one go. You still need the mufflers and the air cleaner, but most will not go through all the steps, but will do this all at once. Just a note: If finances won't allow the whole project to be done at once, you could start with the 1200 kit, and the cylinders can later be bored to accept the 1250 pistons. Just keep in mind that although the 1200 kit and 1250 kit are about the same price, if you have an 883, your stock heads will not work on the 1250 kit unless they are CNC ported.
S&S Cycle, Inc will 1200 heads work on the 1250 kit without needing to be ported?
I have a 2015 iron with V&H staggered short shots, a hi flow breather and a V&H tuner. I want to upgrade it to a 1250 kit can I use the stock heads and cams with it or will I have to upgrade those also?
Stock 883 heads are not compatible with the 1250cc kit. However, if you have them CNC ported here at S&S, they will be work with the 1250cc kit. Stock 1200cc heads will work if you have a set on hand. You could run the stock cams, but if you get your heads ported, you can go with the high lift valve springs and use a higher lift cam to take advantage of the increase flow.
funny the guy seems speechless about the 1250 kit!! I want one as well..
I have allready the 3-1/2" Bore Cylinder Set for 1200cc,not the 1250 kit. Can i use the S&S® Super Stock® Cylinder Head Kit For 3-1/2" and 3-5/8" Bore 1991-'03 HD® Sportster Models? My bike is sporster 1996 year!
With the 1200 kit you can use the Super Stock heads. With the 1250 kit, you cannot.
thank's a lot
Sorry for asking again but I want to be sure. I have this kit, www.sscycle.com/products/883-to-1200cc-conversion-kit-for-1986-2018-hd-sportster-models-silver-finish/ Will I need other pistons?
Give our tech line a call - 608-627-1958
I have a 95 Sportster so I don't have to reprogram the efi. I just have a carburetor (ˈkärb(y)əˌrādər/). I don't understand the title of the series of videos. No Guts To Glory. I have heard the phrase No Guts, No Glory meaning you must put in effort to have a desired effect. But I don't understand No Guts "TO" Glory. Please enlighten me. Thanks. Good video. I have a 1200cc kit on my bike installed by the previous owner and wanted to see what all was replaced. It has all the power I want.
A slight paraphrase. If you have ridden a stock 883, you will understand the "not guts" part. If you boost it to 1200 or 1250cc it will be glorious by comparison!
St White ..Go to see the wizard and get a brain!😕
Great videos guys, I have a 1999 1200 sportster and want to go to the 1275cc kit that hammer just came out with. Do you think their is much of a difference from the 1250 and 1275?
We have not dyno tested a 1275 so we don't have any first hand info about them.
S&S Cycle, Inc thanks for replying.
Did you allow for a break-in period after new pistons and cylinders?
How much would it cost to beef up a 2012 sportster 883 to its max?
Joe,
Here's a list of parts and the retail prices. Keep in mind that you'll have to tune the EFI, so we've included a Dynojet Power vision tuner in the list. We have a calibration that you can download for free on the S&S website at www.sscycle.com/tune-files/power-vision/
Mufflers $351.95
Air Cleaner $269.95
1250cc kit $989.95
CNC Head Porting $950.00
Cams $299.95
Pinion Gear $133.95
Dynojet® Power Vision Tuner $549.95
Total $3534.70
We didn't include the labor to install all this stuff. You'll have to negotiate that with your local dealer!
+S&S Cycle, Inc I live outside the US I can have all parts shipped, but shipping my cylinder heads back and forth is gonna cost me more than the actual head porting.
What options do I have to get a 2015 Iron as much HP as possible?
How much did it cost to do this build at 1250 with the head work, not including the pipes or intake? Thanks
Here is MSRP for the parts
1250 cylinder and piston kit... $1,006.05
CNC Porting (your heads)........$950.00
Cams.........................................$384.25
Pinion Gear...............................$174.00
Pushrods and Cover kit...........$260.93
so i've been looking into doing some upgrades shown in the first 3 videos of this series but was looking at using a vigilante ez fuel controller to support the mods i was just wondering if you support tunes for it or do you deal exclusively with the dynojet power vision as i know companies in the diesel tuner community who only support tunes for 1 or 2 companies
Keep in mind that the Vigilante device is a calibration loader only. If Vigilante has a calibration for this engine configuration, it will work for you, but we don't know what is available from Vigilante as far as calibrations for Sportster® models. The files we have for the Dynojet Power Vision were created specifically for this combination of components. The Power Vision has the added advantage of actually being a tuner. That means you can edit the calibrations if need be. However, we'd recommend that any changes be done by a professional tuner! Tuning errors can be costly.
I'm planning on doing these same modifications to my Iron rather soon, though I want to get a new set of heads instead of porting the old ones. Could you recommend a good set for the 1250 kit?
S&S sells CNC ported heads outright. No exchange needed. As we've shown in the videos, these heads work! Talk to your local S&S Dealer!
@@SSCycleInc Hey, do you guys still sell the cnc ported heads outright? I am located in Cape Breton in Canada so I'm not sure who the local dealer would be?
@@jonnymac8925 I recommend connecting with your local dealer and starting the process that way. You can find them via our site, here: www.sscycle.com/dealer-center/dealer-locator/
Do you know where can I buy these and have it properly installed in Mexico?
We do have S&S dealers in Mexico, so it would be best to look them up on our dealer locator. Here's a link.
www.sscycle.com/dealer-center/dealer-locator
Hi, I have a 99 Sportster XL 883 and I wanna upgrade it to 1200cc. What is your recommendation about the all parts or kit to buy? (in order to get the best power)
+Luis Soto Here is the recipe. The first thing we recommend is to replace your mufflers with a pair of S&S Slip-ons. That uncorks your exhaust. Next, either an S&S air cleaner and a jet kit, or better yet, an S&S Super E Carb kit. Then you're ready to install the 1200cc kit and make some power. The stock cams are really pretty good, but you can squeeze some more top end HP out of that engine with a set of S&S cams. That's where the law of diminishing returns comes into play. The mufflers, carb, and 1200cc kit will be your best horsepower bargain. The cams will make more power, but the cost per HP increases. Besides, you can always add cams afterward if you want to. The main thing is to get in a stronger wind ASAP!
+S&S Cycle, Inc Thank you very much I appreciate the asnwer, I will do in that way
how all that changes affects on fuel consumption?
Folks who go this far in hopping up their engine are generally not too concerned with fuel economy. With that said, it depends on how you drive. If you drive conservatively, fuel economy will be about the same. But that's the problem. It is a rare individual who can resist twisting the grip when this much power is on tap. That's why you do this in the first place.
I twist too much as it is with an 883, I sometimes come back from a meet some nights fill up & think "how did I burn that much fuel"? I still want the 1200 ha..
Is there an S&S dealer in East Europe? Thank you
Try PartsEurope.com
How much would the price land at for all these upgrades?
Here's a list of the parts and prices.
Mufflers $351.95
Air Cleaner $269.95
1250cc kit $989.95
CNC Head Porting $950.00
Cams $299.95
Pinion Gear $133.95
Dynojet® Power Vision Tuner $549.95
Total $3534.70
That doesn't include the labor to install all this stuff. You'll have to negotiate that with your local dealer!
Thanks :)
can I beef up to max a 2017 iron 883?
Yes. Our stuff will fit the 2017 models. The power train remains unchanged for 2017.
how do these kit affect MPG?
+KoG GoK Guys who go this far in performance upgrades generally are not concerned about gas mileage, but here's the facts. We have determined that it takes about 12-15 horsepower to go 55 mph, and it takes a certain amount of fuel to make that much power. So if you drive 55, your mileage will still be about what it was. Let's be real though. That's not likely to happen. Power corrupts, and absolute power....with that kind of power available at the twist of your wrist, it takes a rider with an iron will not to twist it.
S&S Cycle, Inc just asking cuz i got a hayabusa that gets around 20-25 mpg only reason i got the 883 was for the mpg sadly its slower then a honda
+KoG GoK Since you have the 'busa for your speed fix, if you're looking for something a little more practical and economical for every day commuting or whatever, think about just going to the 1200 kit and intake and exhaust. The difference between that and a stock 883 will be amazing, but it'll still be a good daily driver. Check out Step 2 in this series.
ua-cam.com/video/GQz9ZMo5drk/v-deo.html
Uh, who cares??
Ion Racer me if i wanted to get 20 mpg i would get a 200hp hyperbike not a 40 hp harley =(
Thats why i ride a 1400..all that extra dough u might as well just get a bigger cc bike
Comes out to about the same price if you're buying a used 883 and then getting the upgrades. If you're buying all new though, it's definitely cheaper just to get a much larger bike.
but if you love YOUR bike it's your bike, selling it just to get another would just feel wrong I couldn't do that. plus the 1400 - 1650 would be so much heavier.
What model do you have out of interest?
HD NightBat right on
a 1400 is going to be in a much larger much heavier bike so any extra power is wasted hauling around a heavier bike.
Yeah but it'll STILL BE SLOWER THAN A SPORTY and always have 100 + lbs more than one too