Halo Cut Content & Levels That Were Too Ambitious For The Time

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  • @MrFluffytheTurtle
    @MrFluffytheTurtle 3 роки тому +308

    "The world wasn't ready for Forerunner Tank" -Jason Jones

    • @MICROKNIGHT3000
      @MICROKNIGHT3000 3 роки тому +8

      Heck yeah sign me up

    • @laurencetrippen6804
      @laurencetrippen6804 3 роки тому +6

      Nobody is really talking about fore-runner tank ^^

    • @joefuller1207
      @joefuller1207 3 роки тому +5

      Rest in Peace to Covenant Ship, Forerunner Tank and the Warthog Run. Concept formation unknown-Scrapping time unknown.

  • @tonyf.9806
    @tonyf.9806 3 роки тому +126

    My biggest gripe with H3: Cortana level, aside from the fact except from where you retrieve Cortona, none of it looks like the H2 levels Gravemind and High Charity, is that High Charity crashes on the Ark and is laying on it's side, yet the entire level is nearly entirely upright.

    • @alexanderrobins7497
      @alexanderrobins7497 3 роки тому +30

      I never considered High Charity was on it's side in Halo 3, but I was also disappointed to not recognize anything from Halo 2. I was going to say were were always on its side in Halo 2 due to artificial gravity of it spinning, but remembered how far across we could see, including the Forerunner Dreadnaught in the middle.

    • @jonusaguilar8156
      @jonusaguilar8156 3 роки тому +23

      I’ve never considered that, you make a pretty good point

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 3 роки тому +31

      The room you find Cortana in is the sanctum of the hiararchs from High Charity: the room itself with the energy sword and pedestal where 343 Guilty Spark was in the first Sacred Icon cutscene, with Cortana being in said pedestal. However, it’s deformed enough by Flood biomass and different door designs that you’d likely only know that if reading the level article on the Halo wikis. That’s the only reason I know it’s that room. You can also glimpse the council chamber and mausoleum exterior through barriers and a vista respectively, but they’re easily missed and you never actually go there. I also think in both Halo 2 & 3, we should have been able to go into the city itself instead of just the towers at the edge of the dome (and the conduit structure in the cut warthog run).

    • @tonyf.9806
      @tonyf.9806 3 роки тому +3

      @@lionocyborg6030 I knew about the Inner Sanctum from a Rocket Sloth video, but not about the mausoleum. Yes, I don't like how they changed the doors and didn't carry over the design of High Charity from H2 into H3. But my gripe was that High Charity crashed on the Ark and was laying on its side, roughly a 70 degree angle from the cutscene, and yet, the mission Cortana, there's barely any tilt. It's one of those continuity things that throws it off. Not to mention given how long Gravemind and High Charity were, and their location from the hull exterior, MC managed to get into the one tower he needed to way too easily.

    • @LiatKolink
      @LiatKolink 3 роки тому +5

      Keep in mind HC may have its own gravity system, so it might be entirely possible to be sideways and still have proper gravity inside.

  • @justsomehalofan4386
    @justsomehalofan4386 3 роки тому +105

    I wish the cut halo 3 missions made it in. To be honest halo 3 felt short. You also forgot that either on the mission Cortana or floodgate there was supposed to be a boss fight where you would fight the grave mind in a scarab.

    • @beatlecristian
      @beatlecristian 3 роки тому +3

      What, really?!

    • @jrickducking6685
      @jrickducking6685 3 роки тому +1

      Hanz git da flamethrower

    • @randomhiphop5055
      @randomhiphop5055 3 роки тому +8

      We were spoiled with the length of Halo 2 imo. Every Halo since 3 I've been able to get to the last level or complete in a day.

    • @beatlecristian
      @beatlecristian 3 роки тому +2

      @@randomhiphop5055 you have a point, Halo 2 had what 13 levels?

    • @odst_735
      @odst_735 3 роки тому +5

      @@beatlecristian somewhere around 15

  • @overtbias9305
    @overtbias9305 3 роки тому +126

    The Halo 2 warthog run would have been a good way to end the campaign I wish they got it to work

    • @drunkenpumpkins7401
      @drunkenpumpkins7401 3 роки тому +37

      tbh I wouldn't Than every halo ended with a run. Now the H3 Warthog run feels special because it's like how you ended the first game.

    • @sanityexpired8743
      @sanityexpired8743 3 роки тому +1

      Watch general Kidd he recreated it

    • @blueshit199
      @blueshit199 3 роки тому +9

      Halo 2 ended on a scarab run, now how cool is that

    • @loweni7460
      @loweni7460 3 роки тому +11

      I'm glad Halo 2 doesn't have a warthog run if all 3 halo games had one they would get cliché and repetitive

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 3 роки тому +5

      @@sanityexpired8743 Actually it was BlackDimund. General Kidd just showcased the mod.

  • @swordmastersam483
    @swordmastersam483 3 роки тому +79

    I think the lack of splitscreen is at least 60% responsible for making Halo 5 unpopular in my friend group. We almost never play it and it's automatically excluded if we ever decide to have a gaming get-together, which is really unfortunate because Halo 5 has such great forge and custom games.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow 3 роки тому +4

      Same, I almost never bought it because I wanted to play it with my wife.

    • @SpanishArmadaProd
      @SpanishArmadaProd 3 роки тому +1

      ..... Lan play

    • @LiatKolink
      @LiatKolink 3 роки тому +3

      @@LegendStormcrow I knew you couldn't play co-op, but after seeing some people play it together (including in this channel), I simply assumed it was added later in a patch, and I was ready to play it with my GF after playing the whole MCC. It turns out it has online co-op, but no couch co-op. :c

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow 3 роки тому +1

      @@LiatKolink They toted that co-op too. Like, of it wasn't couch co-op, don't do it

    • @CD-Gaming
      @CD-Gaming 2 роки тому +1

      That is one reason why, to me, there is no Halo 5! I've sat and watched my own Clan Brother struggle with terrible Warthog Gunners jus WISHING I could jus jump in and help him out as I am the go-to Warthog Gunner, being the best, a natural, bizarrely, even! Even I can't explain how or why! And they weren't jus terrible either to me or by my standards, either, they were jus plain terrible!

  • @gruntythegreat3335
    @gruntythegreat3335 3 роки тому +286

    I'm honestly upset that they never remastered Halo 3, I feel like a remaster where they finally include the cut levels and all sorts of crazy cut content would be amazing

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 роки тому +67

      In fairness, Halo 3 still looks damn good, even to this day. In fact, in my opinion, it's when Halo was looking its best due to a combination of great aesthetic choices and generally much more HD graphics compared to anything on the OG Xbox, so I'm pretty alright with it not getting a remaster.

    • @theTYTAN3
      @theTYTAN3 3 роки тому +45

      @@arnox4554 Yeah, Halo 3 has aged extremely well.

    • @FlamespeedyAMV
      @FlamespeedyAMV 3 роки тому +21

      H2a cutscenes were amazing, I wish halo 3 had gotten that treatment. But gameplay left alone, unless new maps etc.

    • @theTYTAN3
      @theTYTAN3 3 роки тому +21

      @@FlamespeedyAMV That would be a good compromise.
      I'd really like to see a redo of Combat Evolved Anniversay with redone cutscenes, and character models and environments that actually match the original CE aesthetic.

    • @AlfredTheGreatestEver
      @AlfredTheGreatestEver 3 роки тому +14

      Blur graphics cutscenes. Imagine the scene on the Shadow of Intent with the ship master and lord hood, with blur level graphics.

  • @that1kidvincent
    @that1kidvincent 3 роки тому +58

    I always wanted to play the Halo 2 E3 level. It looked gucking cool and the fact that the SMGs had red flares when shot, instead of the classic yellow orange, made them look way cooler.

    • @brandoncohen671
      @brandoncohen671 3 роки тому +3

      That and the Brutes actually seemed fun to fight (by Halo 2 standards of course).

  • @empash
    @empash 3 роки тому +396

    I would never get bored of Old School Runescape

    • @walleeed
      @walleeed 3 роки тому +4

      lmaooo

    • @bombsgamer
      @bombsgamer 3 роки тому +3

      Really cause i did after like 3 years

    • @RAGHHHHHHHH3
      @RAGHHHHHHHH3 3 роки тому +7

      I find it funny that this is the top comment

    • @bombsgamer
      @bombsgamer 3 роки тому

      I meant both

    • @kona7043
      @kona7043 3 роки тому +1

      @Normie meme thus the existence of osrs.

  • @mj3541
    @mj3541 3 роки тому +63

    I remember trying to play splitscreen on halo 5 with my cousin a few yrs ago. When I found out 343 took out splitscreen I had never been more pissed off over a video game.

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 роки тому +5

      Halo 5 was so bad, it's the main reason I don't own an Xbox One, or even any console past the 360 to this very fucking day. I can't tell everyone enough how many dicks that game can suck. Never felt so utterly disrespected by anything else in gaming except for maybe Epic's treatment of the Unreal Tournament series and its fans.

    • @brodiemacleod69
      @brodiemacleod69 3 роки тому +5

      fuck that holy shit I was sooooo damn mad when that happened...thank god infinite has It but it better not just be an afterthought thrown in

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow 3 роки тому +3

      I put off a Xbox 1 and almost didn't buy Halo 5 over that. I used to play Halo a lot with my wife.

    • @Leon_Scott-Kennedy
      @Leon_Scott-Kennedy 3 роки тому +4

      don't be pissed off at the halo game be pissed off at 343

    • @azrielsatan8693
      @azrielsatan8693 Рік тому +2

      @@brodiemacleod69 "thank god infinite has It" Welp

  • @thestutteringspartan5155
    @thestutteringspartan5155 3 роки тому +90

    I can't believe he didn't talk more about Forerunner Tank, the greatest cut gaming level of all time

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 3 роки тому +11

      There was also the cut warthog run (the restoration mod is awesome but it makes that one section replace the entire level instead of just the end section) and the Marathon 3 reference level after Cairo Station: the cut covenant ship level and the famous trailer sequence that became the bomb scene were meant to reference a cut sequence from Marathon Infinity’s Naw Man, He’s Close map.

    • @thestutteringspartan5155
      @thestutteringspartan5155 3 роки тому +8

      @@lionocyborg6030 Don’t forget the original story, where Miranda Keys teamed up with the prophets because she hated Chief for killing her father, and as such welds a thermonuclear bomb to Chiefs armor and sends him to kill the Gravemind

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 3 роки тому +2

      @@thestutteringspartan5155 I remember she was meant to betray the chief but I thought that was part of Covenant ship or something.

    • @thestutteringspartan5155
      @thestutteringspartan5155 3 роки тому +5

      @@lionocyborg6030 Nah, that happened later in the game. To my knowledge it was the lead up to Forerunner Tank, but I’m not sure about the specifics (I’m getting all my info from the Halo 2 directors commentary and Jason Jones wasn’t very reliable about what went where lol)

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 3 роки тому +3

      @@thestutteringspartan5155 I see. Maybe it was meant to be the end of Regret or something instead of the covenant glassing the temple?

  • @valettashepard909
    @valettashepard909 3 роки тому +16

    Interesting thing about the level Cortana; it actually had a cruiser bridge jammed into it halfway through; its where you find that skull and the hidden Cortana terminal. It’s the exact same bridge module as the Shadow of Intent

  • @ethanearthblade8873
    @ethanearthblade8873 3 роки тому +170

    Lmao, can you just imagine trying to do halo 2 on legendary in under 3 hours and have another level added

    • @paulbasaur
      @paulbasaur 3 роки тому +12

      yeah seriously, that whole series-spanning set of achievements might of not happened or at least been altered if played with the full original length game

    • @LeRoiDuFresne
      @LeRoiDuFresne 3 роки тому +9

      Lol right! Also I think in addition to forerunner tank there were like, at least 2 other levels cut too

    • @343Films
      @343Films 3 роки тому +2

      @@LeRoiDuFresne Yep, there was also gonna be a warthog run as Master Chief through High Charity at the end of the game. Game would've been so long with all those extra levels

    • @aidenbarna5406
      @aidenbarna5406 3 роки тому +9

      From what I heard it wasn’t just that mission that was cut it was like 40%-60% of the campaign. That’s why halo 2 is has the least playable missions of any halo FPS. Apparently there was supposed to also be an underwater mission before gravemind (like they mentioned in the video) at least two extra missions on the defense of earth, and extra missions at the end where it actually showed chief boarding the prophets ship, killing everyone and piloting it back to earth himself. Watch the first 15-20 mins of the act mans halo 2 review he goes over the development of the game and touches on a lot of the cut content. Halo 2 wasn’t even supposed to be a cliff hanger lol

    • @jumpemwithkindness
      @jumpemwithkindness 3 роки тому +1

      No don't do that

  • @johnmorris7899
    @johnmorris7899 3 роки тому +49

    All the flood speaking would have freaked the hell out of me when I was young

    • @swimfeared
      @swimfeared 3 роки тому +1

      I wonder if the original Xbox could handle it.

    • @thundercockjackson
      @thundercockjackson 2 роки тому

      i remember how tense it was already playing halo 3 for the first time with my cousins and them not telling me what the flood was but just that it was coming. and then those fuckin grotesque things appeared and i nearly shit myself lmao

  • @tommunism8778
    @tommunism8778 3 роки тому +49

    ODST Never seemed like it had cut content.
    I would have liked to see the gravemid level and covenant ship.

    • @swimfeared
      @swimfeared 3 роки тому +9

      except that there are sections of the map made inaccessible.

    • @brightroot5719
      @brightroot5719 3 роки тому +16

      @@swimfeared that's not really blocked off because cut content but more it's the map barrier.

    • @Onemadfiddler
      @Onemadfiddler Рік тому +2

      That's because odst was made from cut content

  • @vonjt4077
    @vonjt4077 3 роки тому +16

    I wish there was the Forerunner city in Halo 3. I don't think it ruins the mystery, I believe it makes the forerunners even more mysterious. You are inside one of their cities, yet you still don't get any answers as to how they lived, who they were, and what they did.
    It would have been super cool, looking at the concept art.

  • @jordanmiler5893
    @jordanmiler5893 3 роки тому +19

    He tried to say "he somehow jumped back to the shop with a tiny hop" he's in space so a small push would go on infinitely

    • @CanyonF
      @CanyonF 3 роки тому

      but he already had a good amount of momentum going towards the ship which he would have to cancel out and exceed (and in the right direction) just saying

    • @jordanmiler5893
      @jordanmiler5893 3 роки тому +3

      @@CanyonF he's a spartan that basically has super strength tho lol he's not a normal human

    • @aidankilleen5889
      @aidankilleen5889 3 роки тому +2

      He probably didn't have to push that hard to get the bomb back, but the resulting giant explosion pushed him pretty hard, but not hard enough to hurt.

  • @The_Moe_Szyslak_Exp_feat_Homer
    @The_Moe_Szyslak_Exp_feat_Homer 3 роки тому +11

    Honestly, the nonsensical bridge on the Pillar of Atumn would have actually been pretty epic if they had modeled it as if the ship had been ripped in half. Instead of a functional bridge, you'd be driving across on some broken piece of debris, and all the innards and rooms would have been visible as a cross-section.
    Propably couldn't have been done in the old CE engine, but that would have been cool.

  • @343Films
    @343Films 3 роки тому +13

    A remastered ODST with actual rain, updated textures, and raytracing would be so beautiful

    • @bigdaddynero
      @bigdaddynero 3 роки тому +3

      It already has rain. You can clearly see it in the footage they have in the video. I don't even know why they decided to bring this up.

    • @343Films
      @343Films 3 роки тому

      @@bigdaddynero I could've sworn it did. Then in the video he talked about how everyone has this false memory of rain when there never was any... Weird that he said that...

    • @ghosttoast8610
      @ghosttoast8610 3 роки тому

      @@343Films there was rain

    • @ToiletCloggerDemon
      @ToiletCloggerDemon 11 місяців тому

      @@343Films Bro is delusional

  • @Phantom_Aspekt
    @Phantom_Aspekt 3 роки тому +18

    8:10 This is one of the reasons I love the old Halo games, the feeling of being alien on another world that had its inhabitants wiped out thousands of years prior and not knowing what they looked like but having hints towards them being ancient humans was epic. that sense of mystery is completely ruined by 343i though and their games suffer greatly for it...

  • @monicamartinez1014
    @monicamartinez1014 3 роки тому +19

    Phew I thought it was gonna be a raid sponsor

  • @lm_Cray
    @lm_Cray 3 роки тому +26

    Love the videos going into parts that were removed from games

  • @bcause-ql6so
    @bcause-ql6so 3 роки тому +13

    On the mission flood gate you don’t have to detonate the core because the elites glass half of Africa and the city with it. Love your stuff keep up the great work!

    • @swimfeared
      @swimfeared 3 роки тому

      did the unsc lose all of its nukes?
      i think thats what they should have used

    • @brandoncohen671
      @brandoncohen671 3 роки тому +3

      Originally that was supposed to happen according to Halo 3's development. But things happened and the whole level was kind of split into two levels- Floodgate and Cortana. That's why if you notice the level Cortana looks very similar to the crashed ship on Floodgate, due to reusing assets, despite Cortana being set on High Charity.

  • @shadosnake
    @shadosnake 3 роки тому +22

    Was hoping you'd mention the cut 3rd act of Halo 2 again lol
    rip

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 роки тому +6

      More like the cut EVERYTHING of Halo 2. XD They fucked themselves with their original engine and had to start all over with that, grinding SO HARD to get everything working and back to a shippable state.
      Legend has it that Marty O' Donnell still has nightmares about the Halo 2 crunch to this day.

  • @aidenbarna5406
    @aidenbarna5406 3 роки тому +5

    From what I’ve heard in other UA-cam videos any where from 40 to 60% of the campaign missions in halo 2 were cut because of time. After watching this rn and the Zach Snyder justice league last night I say we start a petition for an extended cut halo 2 that tries to add back in as much of that cut content as possible with our breaking cannon. Who’s with me

  • @rookie1045
    @rookie1045 3 роки тому +12

    Its hard to believe that bungie could have made halo 3 better yet still

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 роки тому +12

      Every game is like that. You're never gonna run out of things you want to implement or change, but sooner or later, you MUST ship.

  • @mythicaltwinkie8216
    @mythicaltwinkie8216 Рік тому +1

    9:29 bro be talking about how Bungie used audio to make the player feel like it was raining and it was a wet environment and that there wasn't any rain, despite this scene clearly having rain.

  • @otminealnamer1385
    @otminealnamer1385 3 роки тому +5

    I can't wait for full mod support so we can have 2, 3, ODST, Reach, and even 4 with SPV3 levels of content and polishing. Personally, I always felt the campaign of Reach was a couple levels too short, not taking enough time to build up the momentum before the big turnaround(SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED!), and could do with 2-3 more levels. Likewise, the individual missions of ODST feel extremely short. Hard to add too much to 2 or 3, since their campaigns are already great - maybe some more time on the Ark or Delta halo.

  • @MACERstudios
    @MACERstudios 3 роки тому +11

    Wow just finished watching the last one great timing

  • @brycevo
    @brycevo 3 роки тому +8

    Split screen 5 and the original 2 would have been great

    • @swimfeared
      @swimfeared 3 роки тому +2

      we cant hit the 60 fps mark on split screen.... so make the mark 30 fps on split screen.

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 роки тому

      Man, fuck Halo 5 so hard...

    • @deathtrooper2048
      @deathtrooper2048 3 роки тому

      @@swimfeared Dynamic res doesn't really like splitscreen

  • @yeetin_yeti69
    @yeetin_yeti69 Рік тому +1

    I can think of multiple things that would make the next halo the best halo. Like being able to command the marines telling them to hold, push, go to a location, get in specific vehicles. Being able to talk to them. Or having an option to get the og aiming in halo or actual aiming without consequences for the one you chose. And actual customization without without monetization. Being able to command assets as an option. Having a long ass campaign maybe 12 hours or a longer. Or outfit your vehicles in certain areas. And have way more and better vehicles with actual good physics instead of a vehicle that flips over if you look at it the wrong way

  • @brandoncohen671
    @brandoncohen671 3 роки тому +3

    I will always be disappointed that we never got the Earth level from the Halo 2 demo. Sure, Outskirts and Metropolis are fine, but the Halo 2 demo seemed like it would've been wicked.

  • @dylantrevorlinville1340
    @dylantrevorlinville1340 3 роки тому +3

    You know it's funny. They faced hardware limitations for most if not all of their Halos but I bet if they did everything they planned using the same engine(s) but did it on the Xbox Series X, they probably could easily fit the definitively complete versions of 1-3 or even 1-Reach with all cut and planned content all on one disc without taking much space.

  • @BrickFilmsCinema
    @BrickFilmsCinema 2 роки тому

    I wanted to see that the cut level from Halo 2 Infinite Succor where we would have played as shipmaster Rtas Vadumee (broken jaw elite) and how he first encountered the flood on a covenant agriculture ship.

  • @Figway55
    @Figway55 Рік тому +1

    I wish Firefight was added in Halo CE,2 or 3. It would have been cool having Flood Firefight back then. Also having a Split-Screen feature for that as well

  • @FAOHUESOS
    @FAOHUESOS 3 роки тому +4

    not having split-screen in Halo 5 is another of the many reasons that game was hated. very poor decision

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 3 роки тому

      So so many reasons to hate it...

    • @TheRookie8621
      @TheRookie8621 3 роки тому

      @@arnox4554 as long as its not cold wars splitscreen. doing that sucked. It got thrown in and wasn't work on.

  • @aquilux-vids
    @aquilux-vids 3 роки тому +1

    3:55 , if no one's said it already, this could also have been the origin of the anemic "jump" in the run. The midpoint setting was scrapped and replaced with a measley bridge, but the story beats were retained because if they rewrote the story for that, it'd be hard to argue against endless late stage rewrites.

  • @RosheenQuynh
    @RosheenQuynh 3 роки тому +3

    I just wanna know how and what happened to Chief and Co. when they went from Spirit drophship in Truth and Reconciliation to Pelican in The Silent Cartographer... That never made sense to me.

    • @SockyNoob
      @SockyNoob 3 роки тому +2

      Pretty sure they flew back to where the Pelican is and hopped on board that.

    • @RosheenQuynh
      @RosheenQuynh 3 роки тому +3

      @@SockyNoob Yeah but where was that? From my knowledge, the other two games didn't just have characters magically teleport locations like that. We had an idea of where they were. Of course, Halo 2 was more story oriented so 🤷‍♀️

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 3 роки тому +5

      @@RosheenQuynh They flew to Alpha Base first, but that was exclusive to the book adaption. Outside SPV3 and Fireteam Raven, Alpha Base doesn’t exist in Halo 1 itself.

    • @RosheenQuynh
      @RosheenQuynh 3 роки тому +1

      @@lionocyborg6030 Ahhhh, interesting! Thank you so much for that! I KNEW something didn't seem right! I appreciate your help, friend! 😁

  • @Popcorn466
    @Popcorn466 3 роки тому +4

    If a game is remastered it should include almost all cut content (including levels)!!!

    • @alexanderrobins7497
      @alexanderrobins7497 3 роки тому

      Sometimes it is for the best some things stay cut, especially if it was due to balancing. Granted, most re-releases are abysmal upgrades of the original with no noticeable quality of life improvements. Hell, MCC is now showing what happens when you add random garbage to a classic. *Glares at Call of "Halo" armor in Halo 3*

    • @brandoncohen671
      @brandoncohen671 3 роки тому

      I wouldn't mind if the levels were added as a sort of "Lost Missions" tab on the MCC, with like maybe some developer commentary in the form of terminals or whatever scattered about. Think of Lost Coast from Half-Life 2. Even if incomplete, it would be nice just to see what the intent was or how these levels would've been woven into the story.

  • @x7Degreesx
    @x7Degreesx 3 роки тому +5

    Worst decision to make on a game: trading fun factor out in order to have higher specs like framerate.

  • @theannilators7479
    @theannilators7479 3 роки тому +8

    I would have preferred split screen over 60 fps. I really don't understand why people freak out over 60 fps when 30 is still good

    • @templarkid.
      @templarkid. 3 роки тому

      I think console players, just like on PC, should have the option for split screen 30fps or alone at 60fps. Having said that, 60fps improves gameplay by a lot. You can't see the difference because you are used to 30 FPS, however people who are used to 60 FPS can really feel the difference when they have to downgrade.

    • @3mpt7
      @3mpt7 3 роки тому +1

      I used to be invited to LAN and split-screen parties. As far as I can tell, they don't exist now.
      As a PC player, I really don't care about FPS, as long as the game isn't chugging, and spiking. Getting my game to run at all is the main thing.

    • @221Prohunter
      @221Prohunter 3 роки тому +1

      30 is not good, that’s why. If you think 30 is good then you haven’t played above 60 lol.
      I’m down for a low framerate if you want to play split screen but the only games that 30fps makes sense in are games like Red Dead 2 where it’s cinematic and nearly photorealistic.

    • @3mpt7
      @3mpt7 3 роки тому

      @@221Prohunter I know what it looks like at 120fps, and then I stop counting, because I haven't seen a monitor which actually displays past that. I also know what it's like at 8fps. Both are playable, as long as the framerate is _consistent._ It really depends on the pace of the game, but I know for competitive multiplayer, and bragging rights, anything below unlimited is insufficient.

    • @221Prohunter
      @221Prohunter 3 роки тому

      @@3mpt7 8 is not playable at all... That's not even a real argument. 8 is objectively unplayable, the only time you would ever play at that is with a shit laptop and the delay between doing things and seeing them is so bad that it's not even worth it at that point. Plus, 120 fps doesn't look much different than 60, yeah, but it *feels* significantly different. 144Htz and 240Htz monitors exist for a reason, they feel much, much better to play on.

  • @OneOnOne1162
    @OneOnOne1162 Рік тому

    5:20 - Actually, he wasn't going to detonate a bomb at all originally. He was gonna steal a wraith and use it to shell the power core of the ship so it would explode.
    Source: Halo 3 Legendary Edition Commentary

  • @Kybes2
    @Kybes2 3 роки тому +15

    Hear me out, another Halo remastered version except it actually includes all the original ideas and ambitions from 1-3

    • @swimfeared
      @swimfeared 3 роки тому +1

      make it so!!

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 3 роки тому +2

      I want that. It could be done to a similar degree as SPV3, but with all three games instead of just the first one.

    • @deathtrooper2048
      @deathtrooper2048 3 роки тому +1

      That's not a remaster

    • @lionocyborg6030
      @lionocyborg6030 3 роки тому +2

      @@deathtrooper2048 Techncially no, it isn’t. But it’s still a good idea despite that fact. I can’t think of a decent term for such a remake. (I.e. one that uses planned or scrapped beta ideas like Dark Interval for Half Life 2 or Brutal Doom ED for Doom 1)

    • @Jose_Doe
      @Jose_Doe 3 роки тому +1

      @@lionocyborg6030 brutal doom uses cut content for doom 1 originally? Like what

  • @mitchmitting102
    @mitchmitting102 Рік тому

    I've been watching Vadams Restored Content mod videos and goddamn, I know Halo 1 had a bunch of stuff on the concept board, but Halo 2 had so much stuff cut but still stuck in the files it's nutty

  • @TheLunarZone
    @TheLunarZone 3 роки тому +12

    So starved of halo that I began the halo wars series.

    • @BranDuke
      @BranDuke 3 роки тому

      lol

    • @BranDuke
      @BranDuke 3 роки тому +4

      HW cutscenes are the best in the series tbf though. So, there's something at least XD

    • @oxy3s
      @oxy3s 3 роки тому

      halo wars 2 ain't too bad in campaign and regular multiplayer... blitz is kinda pay to win

    • @BranDuke
      @BranDuke 3 роки тому

      @@oxy3s But I think the guy's point was it's not the traditional point and shoot we all know and love.
      Didn't mind Halo Wars 1 though at all. Had a friend who played it so much I swear he liked it more than the FPS ones lol. Skunked me so bad in skirmishes I pretty much lost all my interest in it.
      Still need to finish HW2 and Spartan Strike.

  • @xXFangRideXx
    @xXFangRideXx 3 роки тому +6

    last time i was this early i didnt have work that day

  • @SADNUG1385
    @SADNUG1385 3 роки тому

    4:33 the engineer in backs like : why you shooting my friends🐙😢

  • @spacemanspiff6332
    @spacemanspiff6332 10 місяців тому +2

    They cut split screen in everything these days. I dont care what anyone says, the video game industry has killed splitscreen in the interest of forcing people to purchase online subscriptions.

  • @zellcaraway9262
    @zellcaraway9262 2 роки тому

    You mean to tell me that it wasn't raining in ODST? That's a trip. I remembered rain in that game.

  • @Mote.
    @Mote. 3 роки тому

    Earlier tonight i was playing ODST. I was having a blast

  • @Espartanica
    @Espartanica 3 роки тому +2

    All I've ever wanted is 4 player split screen Campaign. It sucked as a kid having to play multiplayer or take turns, and while I understand the limitations for the Xbox and Xbox 360 era, we should have been able to handle it on the MCC. We can only hope it's in Infinite

    • @221Prohunter
      @221Prohunter 3 роки тому

      Highly doubt it will since it’s already going to be significantly more demanding than any previous game. Pretty sure 2 player split screen is confirmed, though

    • @Espartanica
      @Espartanica 3 роки тому

      @@221Prohunter Eh, it's a game capable of running on the base Xbox One, which is also optimized for Series X, so I feel it could be done at least on the new consoles

  • @GAZAMAN93X
    @GAZAMAN93X 3 роки тому +1

    I'm a Resident Evil Fan. I'm glad that capcom remade the originals for peoptto enjoy. I'm also a Halo fan. Halo doesn't really need a remake but if they ever did I hope they add cut content they originally planned.

  • @CD-Gaming
    @CD-Gaming 2 роки тому

    We got a cut level in Tomb Raider III as well, for similar reasons to some of these stated, but, if you manage to find ALL the Secrets in the Game, you can play it! It bridges the gap in two London levels, showing how Lara really got from street level to underground, rather than being street level one minute and then inexplicably underground the next!
    Although, I will confess to curiosity to some of those cut Halo lovels, that 2 level, for example, I remember that trailer as well, I wouldn't mind... But I think reuniting with Cortana so late on the way we did in 3 kind of works better for the overall narative, jus in general! You feel more reileved when you are finally reunited, it holds more gravitas, being apart for so long! I'm an amateur writer, alright, I'm a sucker for that sort of thing! No, you're tearing up!

  • @BeBe_TrAnS
    @BeBe_TrAnS 2 роки тому

    To be fair that light little jump between is believable because there is no friction in space to slow you down so you just keep going until you collide with something

  • @Thorax2552
    @Thorax2552 2 роки тому

    The Drinol, the "vehicle smasher" enemy they wanted in H2

  • @SelfControlla
    @SelfControlla 3 роки тому +9

    Wow I was on UA-cam when you uploaded!!!! Omfg this is lit!

  • @bigdaddynero
    @bigdaddynero 3 роки тому +4

    I'm so confused. The literal footage used for the Halo 3: ODST section has rain in it. You said that the game doesn't have a rain system but it clearly does. Why would you put this in the video when it's a complete lie. I'm not talking about that garbo filter used. I'm talking about the actual level that you guys showed off. It has tons of rain in it and it's not even subtle. It's a light drizzle and you guys made it seem as though there is no rain saying it wouldn't be possible.

    • @valkaerie8715
      @valkaerie8715 3 роки тому +1

      It was edited in, a filter. You can see it go over the HUD and the guys hand

  • @jomiles3605
    @jomiles3605 3 роки тому

    One of my biggest questions I remember having at the time was what happened between Floodgate and Cortana. Always felt like an odd story transition that never made a ton of sense to me

  • @ChaosMakesAMVs
    @ChaosMakesAMVs 3 роки тому +6

    Let's get it

  • @lordshmee13
    @lordshmee13 3 роки тому +4

    lol Justice League got its recut, so where is the "Halo Trilogy - Bungie Cut"
    imagine if everything was made easier no problems and Bungie and/or 343i dropped this out of nowhere(yes despite Infinite Coming out later this but just for fun)

  • @adolfgaming1761
    @adolfgaming1761 3 роки тому

    Boy, when i heard Reach had a scarab run, but they cut it.
    I cried.

  • @Thorovain
    @Thorovain 3 роки тому +1

    The Halo trilogy can best be described as "the engine and functionality is held together by duct tape and thumbtacks, and so is the storyline."

  • @matthewcurtis9192
    @matthewcurtis9192 2 роки тому +1

    Skip to 2:11 for the content to actually start...

  • @mouthfulofpeanutbutter9753
    @mouthfulofpeanutbutter9753 2 роки тому

    NGL I always thought the drop pod marines from CE died because the air brakes couldn't handle the extra inertia from Chief's heavy ass being on board.

  • @AllHailNumo
    @AllHailNumo 3 роки тому

    Amazing I'm still learning about what could have been.

  • @spearheadbt9601
    @spearheadbt9601 2 роки тому +1

    I always really liked Halo 2's campaign. It's such a shame there was so much content cut. You forgot to mention something like 3 missions at the end of the game... But personally, if I had to choose: the covenant ship mission at the beginning of the game. WHY??? :( It would have sooo cool. Maybe that's why there is a similar mission in Halo Reach. Still, having to do it with a bunch of ODSTs and Miranda would have been awesome. I would also have been very interested in playing that level introducing the Gravemind. I don't understand why they couldn't have tried to make the missions out of the concepts. Sure, it would have been different as originally envisioned or made from the team, but still.
    A longer Halo 2 campaign? And significantly longer at that? It would have been amazing. It's a crime they didn't get Halo 2 delayed. They basically made it in 10 months... A delay of 2 months or so would have probably been sufficient.

  • @thegamerman1097
    @thegamerman1097 3 роки тому +1

    You should work on some gears of war video’s like cut content and maybe the canceled Kinect Gears of war Exile

  • @johnjoseph2010
    @johnjoseph2010 11 місяців тому +1

    2:31 Master Cheifs armor exceed the weight limit for safe landing.....
    3:07 or that lol......

  • @HiveQu33n
    @HiveQu33n 3 роки тому

    I wish you could command Marines like in a tactical shooter. SOCOM style.

  • @paulbasaur
    @paulbasaur 3 роки тому +1

    splitting up the flood ship/high charity destruction level makes sense in lieu of an expanded length Halo 2 originally supposed to be the end. Gotta pad out Halo 3 somewhat

  • @hashbrown777
    @hashbrown777 2 роки тому

    Bungie: We want to keep some mysticism around forerunner
    343: Yeeeah, about that

  • @andymac4883
    @andymac4883 3 роки тому +1

    Huh, interesting to know the real reason all the marines died in the crash! I had figured it was just to suit the theme, how it seems at the end of the game like literally everybody but Chief and Cortana was dead. Honestly, it was one of the moments that sort of bugged me, I'm never a fan of moments where everybody dies except the main character.

  • @SurvisCallus
    @SurvisCallus 3 роки тому +6

    I wish the old bungie crew could come back for a bit and make mods to finish the stuff they couldnt

    • @xshullaw
      @xshullaw 3 роки тому +1

      I wish the old crew would put some of their magic in Destiny 2. That game is in dire need of it.

    • @SurvisCallus
      @SurvisCallus 3 роки тому +1

      @@xshullaw yeag

  • @chozochiefxiii3298
    @chozochiefxiii3298 2 місяці тому

    I wish the cut levels of halo 2 and 3 were playable. As well as the original gameplay for the forerunner weapons in halo 4.

  • @theskieshavefallen8408
    @theskieshavefallen8408 3 роки тому

    Halo: "It's the flood!"
    Me: "Quick, someone detonate an engine core!"

  • @ashanarchy7255
    @ashanarchy7255 3 роки тому

    You missed forerunner tank. The level at the very end of halo 2 where you infiltrated the forerunner dreadnought.

  • @arise973
    @arise973 3 роки тому

    Would of been kick ass to see a flood scarab with spores popping off flood and shooting its infected beam lol

  • @JMObyx
    @JMObyx 3 роки тому +1

    Oh, you mean like the 1st draft of New Mombasa?

  • @thatsgib6015
    @thatsgib6015 3 роки тому +1

    wasn't there supposed to be a system that could change the weather/time of day in the original CE?

  • @Spoondogg
    @Spoondogg Рік тому +1

    You can literally see the rain in ODST? 9:29

  • @Crizzly122
    @Crizzly122 3 роки тому

    "Some how he jumps back to the ship with a light little bounce here"
    There is no air resistance or gravity in space, there is nothing to stop chief's momentum from that little jump so he wouldn't stop

  • @iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738
    @iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738 3 роки тому

    Anyone know what the song playing in the background during the sponsor is?

  • @lil_legalo5190
    @lil_legalo5190 2 роки тому

    I’m happy I don’t have to do a halo 2 warthog run on laso legendary

  • @dannyrivera8300
    @dannyrivera8300 2 роки тому

    I'd definitely like a remaster of Halo 3 343 could add it in as an update with the toggle for 360 series graphics

  • @pianogang2273
    @pianogang2273 3 роки тому

    You should do a challenge where you try to beat ODST on legendary with only using a magnum and meelee, and when you drive vehicles you have to smash into things, or drive past them. : )

    • @221Prohunter
      @221Prohunter 3 роки тому +1

      That’s a really specific “challenge” lmao

    • @pianogang2273
      @pianogang2273 3 роки тому

      @@221Prohunter Lol! Yup! : )

  • @MrWooaa
    @MrWooaa 11 місяців тому +1

    Wait, are you saying that there is no rain in ODST?

  • @ThelVadam7777
    @ThelVadam7777 3 роки тому

    Cool new enemies like the guta being expanded on would jave been cool

  • @knightwolf3511
    @knightwolf3511 3 роки тому

    would be cool to see them complete the cut content in halo mcc and be playable

  • @mikenchantel3268
    @mikenchantel3268 2 роки тому

    I really wish that OG Halo CE had loot boxes! Imagine that you couldn't play 343 guilty spark without paying another 9.99.

  • @TricksterWeazel
    @TricksterWeazel 2 місяці тому

    He "somehow got back to the ship" because he's in space. There's neither gravity nor air in space (little known fact, I know). If you push off something in space, you'll travel in a straight line indefinitely unless, of course, something stops you.

  • @soldaatjhu
    @soldaatjhu 3 роки тому

    Master Chief wouldn't get bored with OSRS my dude.

  • @FDGQQW
    @FDGQQW 3 роки тому

    Lol a commercial right after the sponsor mention

  • @tofugardens2409
    @tofugardens2409 3 роки тому

    It would be cool if they remade halo 3 campaign as dlc for Infinite. Would also be cool if they added in these cut missions in a remaster/remake.

  • @OracleOfTheOasis
    @OracleOfTheOasis 2 роки тому

    Kinda makes you wish someone would do something like SPV3 for Halo 2 and 3 as well

  • @ThelVadam7777
    @ThelVadam7777 3 роки тому

    Sup Rocket Sloth. How ya doingn today? I hope you are doing good today

  • @Sadeness99
    @Sadeness99 3 місяці тому

    Hey. I wonder if the marines "slipping off" the bridge is actually true. For some reason i dont buy it. Someone spawn marines there or something to follow chief across the bridge

  • @dannyb5232
    @dannyb5232 3 роки тому

    Rocket sloth hits super fast build mode

  • @FirestormDDash
    @FirestormDDash 3 роки тому

    when master chief goes from osrs to rs3

  • @OneOnOne1162
    @OneOnOne1162 Рік тому

    8:13 - A very important difference in mindset between 343 and Bungie.

  • @spkon6049
    @spkon6049 2 роки тому

    And now spv3 gives you marines at the start of the halo mission.

  • @czarbloodimir7741
    @czarbloodimir7741 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely loved the vid!
    Commenting for the almighty algorithm