Worst Halo Weapons of all Time From Every Halo Game
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Halo has had a lot of different weapons over the years. While most of the weapon gameplay in Halo is fun, what are some of the worst Halo weapons? There is no perfect game and every game has it's little flaws and some of the Halo weapons are worst than others.
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I wouldn’t agree with the Concussion rifle being compared to the Fuel Rod Gun. It’s closer to the Brute Shot.
It’s a gun designed around suppressive and concussive abilities that manipulate physics and disrupt vehicle and player movement
Its literally a elite version of the brute shot
and the problem with the Concussion Rifle is it doesn't have the blast radius of the Brute Shot, making it much easier to dodge. It's just a straight downgrade from 3's Brute Shot.
It was the perfect counter for any close range weapon too. energy sword? GET BACK! shotgun? GET BACK!! Gravity hammer? GET BACK!!!
The USELESS brute shot.
Agreed. It has always been the bruteshot replacement to me.
Halo 2 magnum feels as though it was designed to be dual wielded with other weapons. Plasma pistol / Magnum combo for an easy eilte combo
Plasma Rifle and Magnum dual wield is my jam. Once I have those, I'm set for the rest of the level.
Yeah. Halo 2 put a big emphasis on the ability to dual-wield, so it isn't great to compare its magnum to Halo games that didn't have dual-wield.
Dual magnums were so OP in halo 2 that they got nerfed in a patch shortly after release
Headshots 4 life
@Montes Romero Nothing exists in a vacuum- you have to consider the situation each gun is in. The Halo 2 magnum can be dual-wielded with a plasma pistol, which means it can help kill Elites much faster than even the Halo CE magnum. On its own the Halo 2 magnum can be considered bad, but considering you can pair it with something that covers its weaknesses, it's not actually that bad.
Rocket sloth's crew: "There is no strategy with the boltshot, "
Everyone who picks it up: "Camping is a legit strategy,"
those are the same ppl still rocking the noob combo we hated then claiming its a legit combo. which are the rocket whores that make slayer games annoying at times.
@@MrBunnybusiness Just because you're salty about a way someone plays doesn't mean you should talk behind their back.
But your name is Mal so it's expected.
@@Avarice297 yupp sounds like something a noob would say lol. P.S. talking behind someones back is not the same thing as posting it online for the world to see with your name and photo attached!!:)
I didn't even know it could be charged until this video.
@@MrBunnybusiness Just play the fucking game how you want.
“Halo 3 shotgun is bad”
*Attempts to kill people from 30 feet away*
Yah as soon as the reticle turns red it fuck shit up, i remember in multiplayer the good old shotty>melee combo and the enemy would be dead
Let's be honest, compared to other shotguns its trash
You could totally kill with the CE shotgun at that range though, so he's right to say it's not as good.
Same with the bolt shot, Shotgun, Mauler, Boltshot, they are all ambush weapons and shine when used that way, the bolt shot just has ranged capabilities, but not its purpose, funnily enough, the energy sword and gravity hammer have better range then all of them, which make them better chase weapons. edit: scatter shot is also a better chase gun than the others, because of its higher damage allowing longer ranged kills.
Honestly, the shotgun in Reach was a lot more unreliable than the one in Halo 3.
Is that just me?
The Halo 4 boltshot is literally broken. It's a secondary shotgun that you get off every single spawn. One shot kills at ranges longer than the actual shotgun.
Fizz-sama
Didn’t they nerf it?
@@jamestheviking983 it was still really good
Yeah it was, when it popped out I was like “tf you say sayin dude”
But it's so good... I think they did sort of nerf it by reducing the time you can hold it fully charged
Boltshot + Promethean Vision was the most OP loadout in the early H4 days
Should've added the gravity hammer's sound effects from 3, Reach and 4 in comparison.
I personally love the halo reach gravity hammer in the campaign it’s great if you know how to use it
There was no gravity hammer in Halo 4
@@retsrow2899 yes there was, it appeared in one of the campaigns where there were a bunch of crawlers and you had to kill them like a firefight. They also had grifball, which NEEDED gravity hammers. He even starts talking about it at 8:30
Yeah that bothered me. I cant remember what the hammer sounds like in H4 so I was hoping he would have included the soundbite.
@@retsrow2899 there is in the campaign. It's in the last stage where you are going after the didact. There are a bunch of tubes with various weapons in them. One is the gravity hammer. It is, however, practically useless because all of your engagements will be mid to long range.
8:24 small editing tip, i would have liked to hear a comparison of the two sounds if you're going to say you prefer one over the other
>"small"
That's where I stopped watching. Can't stop the sound of his own voice for 2 seconds.
Yeah this should have been obvious lol
100% this
Yep
"The full on removal of the plasma rifle to introduce the storm rifle was a disappointment."
Ne, it was heresy!!!!!!!!!!
"The needler is just bad. It sprays too much."
-proceeds to just hold down the trigger while aiming at the wall.
I think I found your problem right there.
Halo 2's needler really is useless
@@kristen0009 if you don't know how to use it.
@@k1n6n07h1n6 please enlighten me? Im decent at halo 2 pc and never really found good use or figured out a way to use it. Even asked on halo subreddit about it and some dude replied only works for dual wielding them needlers while empty and firing them to make clicking noises that way you look like a crab lmao
@@kristen0009 Don't spray and pray and lead your shots.
Actually aiming with the halo 2 needler.... You will get kills... Duel wielding... You pretty much can play the field in most smaller maps... It's actually pretty op that way... Hence they removed duel wielding it in halo 3... You can't treat it like an smg... It has a lock on ability for a fucking reason... Aim at your target and it'll get the job done...
I felt betrayed when they removed the carbine from reach, and I always found it funny how they removed the alien sniper, then needed an alien sniper for the plotline
Needle rifle, I guess.
It's just the carbine but with a super combine mechanic from the needler.
@@khajiitimanus7432 agreed, other than the halo 2 BR which is my fav rifle, the carbine is a close second and have my days i prefer the carbine. always been well balanced and quick shooting, quick reload, just an all around solid gun in every game whereas i hate BR's after halo 3, and even in halo 3 prefer the carbine.
Focus rifle got a buff
I think they may have just done that because the carbine hadn't been seen until halo 2, and just wanted a bit of continuity in when certain weapons appear in the lore.
@@flyboy_nathan4112 That's a respectable theory, but the mauler is going to be in infinite (or a variation of it). The mauler was first seen during halo. Although it appears during the time of halo 2 (Halo 3: ODST) it wouldn't make sense to have it in Infinite with this logic.
Edit: What I am saying is that guns seem to pop in and out of existence depending on if 343i enjoyed them or not.
The Plasma rifle actually CLAPPED the flood in Halo 3
Cortana on Legendary is stupid easy when you dual-wield them with a carbine for distance
@@aegis6485 do you mean plasma rifle?
@@bloodrune329 Yeah, dual-wielding plasma rifles made the Flood easier to deal with. Carbine or battle rifle for distant popshots
Which is actually lore accurate, since any plasma weapons apply extreme heat that effectively disintegrates the flood.
It's actually one of the best weapons in the game when dual-wielded, it strips Brute shields super fast then kills them, every other Covy type except Hunters die fast to them and Flood/Sentinels get melted by them.
On it's own it's still good at killing Brutes and small Covies/Sentinels.
HALO Reach's assault rifle will always hold a special place in my heart. love it
i cant believe he called it bad, i personally think its the most effective one. its my primary mode of destruction in multiplayer. just know how much it takes to weaken them enough for a wack and you can suppliment a shotgun in some cases. (sword base grav lift for example)
@@charlesbackstrom6571 | Ikr! It’s my favorite. I may be alone with this but I actually would prefer the Reach AR to the shotgun in many situations.
Same
I like the way it looks the most
in halo 4 i literally find a reason to get rid of it immediately
Rocket sloth: i really don't like the halo 4 gravity hammer sound
Me : may i hear it ?
Rocket sloth: *Nope*
Same, fully had to pause the video and search it separately
Haha right?
a lot of the time rocket sloth criticizes h4 for no reason. Surprising, given the amount of things to criticize about h4.
Honestly, as many times as I've goofed around with H4, I've just forgotten that the gravhammer is even in the game many times, and I always have a light bulb moment whenever I see it in multiplayer. With as amazing as it's supposed to be, that kinda makes me sad.
Just make a "clunk" sound in a low pitched voice and you've got the H4 hammer sound.
I actually found the halo 4 bolt shot incredible, having a pocket shotty at any given moment is amazingly convenient
Yep. Use it with Promethean Vision and charge it up before the enemy rounds the corner :D
dbenson31 Doesn’t it seem counter productive to have 2 close range guns at once?
I kind of wish that the h4 bolt shot would return in Infinite. It's just so unique. I don't like what they did with the h5 boltshot and suppressor
Yes! A fully charged bolt shot was deadly
Absolutely 100% agree and I want to be your friend
Lets be honest, litteraly every weapon in CE is s tier.
assault rifle sucks
@@lychy645 SHUT
@@lychy645 yes the shotgun almost has the same bullet spread
@@lychy645 the Assault Rifle is pretty fine actually for short and medium distances. It had that giant magazine, 60 shots I think, which was really neat.
I know they needed to keep adding more content to the later halo games to keep them fresh, but part of me wishes they just would've stuck with the CE weapon roster. every weapon was designed elegantly to have a specific, useful purpose. very little overlap, very little redundancy. it was masterful
When you started talking about reach with all that DMR footage I was worried you were gonna mess this list up.
Some people hate the DMR but I thought it was godly. 4 shot headshots all day
i think it was to demonstrate bloom and how people dont like it
"Now these are all opinions"
Me: The Halo 4 suppresser ... *Shivers*
Ya it suppresses your chance to get a kill.
Are you saying you liked the suppressor???...
At the right rang it was quite a quick kill,if you can land ur shots,unlike the guy in this vudeo... smh. Just about all his disliked weapons came down to a matter of user errors.
@@fafxx9363 plus the sound was amazing
@@fafxx9363 And the recoil was so bad you could kill people without aiming at them XD
@@Windjammer19 recoil there isnt any its just spread
@@fafxx9363 would you consider the Mauler a bad gun?
You shooting plasma pistol at enemies: no damage
Grunt shoots plasma pistol at you: shield drains by 45%.
**laughs in Halo 2 dual wield trigger finger**
Just overcharge it for an instant shield destroyer then switch to any other gun and it's pretty much game over for anyone you go up against
Idk what your talking about. I just land 4 shots online with the plasma pistol and that's their shield. Just gotta headshot them or melee at that point.
@@kahnqueror8486 same especially since the projectiles are treechunks in the halo games I play the most (reach and CE)
i swear halo 5s plasma pistol drops shields in like 2-3 shots
I initially felt the same way about the storm rifle. When it dropped, it really seemed jarring to not have the plasma rifle. But then I thought about it, and it made sense why they'd want to upgrade their plasma rifle. The rate of fire had increased, the bolts make contact with their targets much faster, and considering no one could dual wield anymore, having it be one-handed didn't matter much anymore. It was really effective against Elites from my experience.
I'm guessing the Storm Rifle was implemented to be like the Covenant's equivalent of the Assault Rifle.
The plasma "rifle" was more like a submachine gun than a rifle. I feel like it should've been kept as a sidearm along with the storm rifle.
Back in my Halo: CE PC days, we always used the Fuel Rod Cannon on Blood Gulch as a type of improvised artillery to bombard the other teams base. Good times!
This was around 2004ish if anyone is interested lol.
The goofy ass physics of the CE fuel rod were amazing. Even if they made it a shot for shot downgrade from the rocket launcher, they were still a lot of fun, and i got some long range kills with it back in the day
@@connorross123 Such good times. I really hope they bring back the CE Fuel Rod Cannon someday in Infinite!
@@darkblaze72 dude 5 years ago I did the same
Had Halo CE downloaded at my school's computers and played LAN multiplayer there with my friends
Fun times during Blood Gulch and Fuel Rod
@@abhigyanbalodi2615 Hell yeah! I'm glad others did the same thing on this map, such good times!
I felt personally attacked when i found out that they had removed the Plasma rifle in Halo 4
My Name Is Phil same.
They made the plasma "rifle" is an actual rifle in halo 4
Me four
I felt personally attacked when bungie left halo and 343 took over, period.
Yes while in the prolouge cutscene WE GODAMN SEE IT WITH A MOTHERFUCKING CHIEFTAIN BRUTE!
The Needler in Halo CE ignores shields FYI, it's almost cheating.
Yeah, I never understood why bullets get deflected or absorbed by the energy shields of an Elite or Spartan but needler rounds go right through the shields in CE.
good luck even landing shots in multiplayer in MCC
@@sharpen193 honestly it's tough
Agreed, though I do think that the Needler being useless against Jackal shields is a fantastic gameplay decision. The weapon balancing in CE is almost entirely spot-on.
Nathan Banks did you just compliment the game balance of CE
You’d know when a gun is good or bad in Halo 2 anniversary when your fighting brutes that game gave me PTSD when I ever see brutes now
I can second that for most weapons. Though it's also why can't consider the Halo 2 needler bad, it just wrecks brutes
Lmao the Halo CE fuel rod was so trolly. No one knew about it back then, so you could rush it and just dominate. Same for the flamethrower haha
I'm still trying to understand what he just said, am I the only one that heard him say Cortana and John having a baby
ice dragon23 oh I heard that
Interesting this would be
I want to like but it’s at 117
So what would we call their kid a android or a cyborg.
@@imixupwords5340 cydroid
The concussion rifle in our hands.
A gun that moves enemies away.
In enemy hands?
Welp there goes all your shields and 75 percent of your life in 3 blasts.
I swear man, when I use it I just push them and maybe pop their shields but when they use it its insta death
@@reclusethespider4412 heroic was the way to play but I did it on legendary and for the life of me I don't even remember if I popped any shields with that thing lmao.
@@MitchJustChill
Yea it was terribad at dealing with shields, great vs unsheilded targets though
Try that shit on Legendary, one shot sends you to like 75 percent dead and the other shot finishes you off.
I’m doing a play through in campaign on heroic and it would legit 2 shot me
Lowkey feel like I’m the only one who likes the focus rifle /: it’s GODLY in the right hands.
It should have been more like the rail gun in halo 4, but still a beam
I loved the sound it made, and it just felt really good to shoot. ammo seemed to burn fast tho
I liked how it didnt matter if someone was right in your face or across the map and it would be just as good, very versatile
It was the only way I could snipe other players in this franchise. Satisfying!
I infinitely prefer the regular sniper or beam rifle, but it was alright in invasion where opponents had to run around in the open a lot and couldnt take cover
Suppressor against covenant in campaign:
Wow this this is like the spiker I freaking love it
Suppressor against bullet spong- oh I mean knights:
Dear God licking them would do more damage than this thumbtack
The magnums the Halo games yeah we deal some damage and stuff.
CE magnum: they called me the Messiah
*Halo CE Magnum:* I'm the king of all Magnums baby!
*Halo 2 Magnum:* I can kill a spartan... Sort of... It just takes 12 shots... A reload... Then one extra shot to the head...
*Halo 3 Magnum:* I'm slow and low on ammo but I get the job done in about 4 shots, yo!
*Halo 3 ODST Magnum:* Lol I'm like you Halo 2 Magnum but far, far superior! I just can't be dual wielded :'(
*Halo Reach Magnum:* I have the same model name as you Halo 3 Magnum but I'm better than you, I'm just really ugly :'(
*Halo 4 Magnum:* You think you're ugly!?!?! Look what happened to me!!!
*Halo 5:* Psst, I brought back the king.
@@Phantom_Aspekt Perfect Halo Shotgun THAT YOU EXPECT THE UNSC TO HAVE MADE SI:
Halo CE shotgun power + the ammo capacity of Halo 2 shotgun = 2.0 Standard issue UNSC shotgun.
Perfect Halo Pistol THAT YOU EXPECT THE UNSC TO HAVE MADE SI:
Halo CE Pistol power + ammo capacity and duel wielding and Speed of Halo 2 UNSC pistol = 2.0 Standard issue UNSC Pistol
Perfect Halo Rocket Launcher THAT YOU EXPECT THE UNSC TO HAVE SI:
Halo CE RL Splash Damage + Halo 3 RL Speed and power + Halo 5 RL targeting lock on = 2.0 SI UNSC RL
@@DylanBegazo The Halo CE shotgun already had the 12 round ammo capacity, it also reloads much faster than Halo 2's haha
@@Phantom_Aspekt You're right
Thank you :)
CE magnum: *during campaign* I am not the messiah
Multiplayer players: **HE IS THE MESSIAH**
"This gun is bad"
-Misses damn near every shot
I love how he talks about the spray of the halo 2 needer being too large, but halo ce's needler had an insane spread on it, I don't think he even tested it.
@@d1n2y18 ye but Halo CE's needler is so weak and the shots are so slow in comparison to halo 2's Needler. on Halo CE you cant kill anything with a needler without unloading the entire ammunition, halo 2's needler kills anything with 8 shots
@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 You said this like you are disagreeing with him but in actuality you are agreeing
Magazine: the box that holds ammunition that has been loaded into the gun
Clip: a device used to load ammunition into the gun
Cartridge: a single round of ammunition
These terms are not interchangeable.
The replacement of the plasma rifle with the storm rifle is just the reverse of Halo 2 removing the assault rifle for the SMG. It just felt like it was meant to highlight the lack of dual wielding. Both were equally stupid.
I miss the Incendiary and Spike Grenades from Halo 3 (& ODST). I wanna see a return, they could have been so cool!
Idk about the incendiary but I doubt the spike is gonna come back because it was a brute weapon
@@ghostprime6320 Banished might be in Infinite so maybe it will.
@@kabob0077 banished are in infinite so most likely
Seeing as the Banished more than likely will be in Halo Infinite then it's very possible those grenade types will make a return.
I think I saw a brute get stuck in the chest by a spike granade in infinite trailer
The Concussion Rifle was the Reach equivalent of the Brute Shot, although I see how you might compare it to the fuel rod.
I've always thought the SMG was pretty useless, even when dual wielding.
In halo 2 it's awful
In halo 3 it's sturdy and not that bad
In halo 3 odst: dear God the recoil
In halo 5: like the halo 2 smg but more range and a bit more accuracy
Its strong against enemies with no shields. It barely scratches shields though
That Halo 2 SMG is indeed awful, especially when it's used on it's own!
That should of had been somewhere at the top of the list for the worse guns in the Halo series.
EDIT: However, when paired/duel wield with an energy based weapon, it can quickly eliminate enemies in both the campaign and in multiplayer matches. Every weapons has it's use and reason, even though they are deemed not as efficient.
@@NinjaHamsters101 definitely, even if you dual weild them at close range which is what it's designed for, it still is at a disadvantage to the plasma rifle or br
I could see why it existed in Halo 2. There was no Assault Rifle, and it was perfect for introducing dual wielding.
The return of the Assault Rifle in Halo 3 ensured that the SMG was strictly for dual wielding to supplement its lower power.
Because dual wielding was dropped in ODST, it felt out of place, and the AR had to be nerfed to make the SMG more appealing. It was great against Drones, though.
I found it completely useless in Halo 5. Too weak and short range to do anything when Assault Rifle, Carbine, or Suppressor ammo was nearby.
Hey just a correction. Bungee wasn’t trying to get rid of the plasma rifle at all, they added the repeater to go against the assault rifle for invasion balancing! That’s why it doesn’t strip shields
In halo 2, dual wielding was necessary for many weapons to be effective
@8:25 I think you should have played a clip of the sound the Halo 4 Gravity Hammer makes, if you are going to mention the sound. The other clips for guns, we could watch and see what you were talking about.
yeah what a tard
The sentiment towards the Storm Rifle is exactly my current feelings with pretty much every Halo Infinite weapon atm. They got rid of soooo many iconic and lovable guns for some new guns that just don't really hit the same and lean too far into 'utility' that they lose a lot of their appeal. I can't tell you how disappointed I was learning that the Spartan Laser, Railgun, SAW, Fuel Rod Cannon, Carbine, Beam Rifle, etc... were gone.
Never forget, halo ce plasma pistol charge shot might as well have been an orbital mac blast
By far my favorite weapon in CE, it's extremely satisfying to use and the shots leave a plasma fire effect where the shot hit on objects and enemies, really sold the power trip
Just saying through my experience the boltshot is op
Your experience is correct. The boltshot invalidates melees and lets you spawn with a one hit kill secondary shotgun. There's a reason it got entirely reworked in Halo 5. It was fucking broken in Halo 4.
Ik it's because he doesn't know how to use it
Yeah, in halo 4 people used to run DMR/boltshot all the time until the BR was buffed and it became BR/boltshot. It was a fricken pocket shotgun. Also I disagree with Reach having the best weapon balancing. DMR was the best weapon in Reach and u never had to pick up anything else. Start matches with a power weapon.
@@dylanbaird9629 Absolutely agree on Reach's DMR, believe it or not that thing actually has more range than the Halo 2 Sniper Rifle if you check the game files, that's why you can have shootouts from base to base on Hemorrhage, with it's near hitscan bullet velocity it's practically a sniper rifle... And people wanted the "weapon bloom" to be gone because it was too inaccurate during rapid fire?!?! No one cared about the way Halo handled weapon accuracy till they had a recticle tell them how it worked, the Halo CE Magnum got less accurate with rapid fire ffs 🤣
@@dylanbaird9629 the thing with Reach is that it was a different kind of game. The DMR was your main weapon because the maps were fucking enormous. This made 4v4 traditional Arena modes less deep but it resulted in BTB being the best it's ever been, sooooo much better than AR starts in BTB.
Besides, if you remember the ungodly amount of combos you could do I'm H2, the BR is just as broken, if not more in the most skilled hands
I disagree with putting the boltshot on the list, the amount of times I plinked a couple shots into somebody, ducked around a door and blasted them with a shotgun blast the second they charged in were soooo satisfying. MIND GAMES!!!
I’d say I like the sound effects and the design of reach because they fit the lore of brutes being brutal, but I do like the secondary melee of 4 and 5 because it feels more like how you would swing the hammer without the gravity effect.
i like how your reasoning is always "it FEELS worse" with almost always no actual reason.
yeah coz its an opinion based video, its gonna have their opinion in it
Man... no love for the CE Fuel Rod, I always thought it fits perfectly in the art style and looks so exotic
tyuy100 100% Agree
The CE Fuel Rod is lowkey busted because it's a Rocket Launcher you can shoot all damn day. Same with the H4 Boltshot: a Shotgun you can spawn with so you use it all day long. What are these folks thinking?
Yeah I mean it was kinda broken but super fun to use the true og
QuintessentialWalrus You can literally only shoot it 3 to 4 times before it OVERHEATS.
@@goofyahdemoman1134 Not if you time your shots
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my favourite gun is actually probably the Focus Rifle from Reach lol. I just find it hella satisfying and fun to use, and it can definitely still work reasonably well if you aim it right. But I definitely understand why it's on here, its not great haha
Ok there is no argument for this statement, the most satisfying and amazing gun in reach was the grenade launcher, there is no other opinion that is right..
Although it's not a bad gun because it has use in later games, I just remember when the Plasma Pistol actually had killing potential back in CE
The plasma pistol was just a murder weapon against any covie or sentinel in campaign
11:30 the Halo CE Fuel Rod Cannon is straight up the best iteration of the fuel rod cannon. Kills in 2 hits, can fire quickly, doesn't need to be reloaded (so you can just switch to your other weapon while it's cooling down) and is by far the most unique take on the weapon out of any of the Halo games. Really hope we see it return at some point.
I prefer the yellow one plus ce fuel rod isn't in campaign
Also, it doesn't bounce
The list was perfect until you put the boltshot on there, that gun is amazing in most every circumstance. I don’t understand what you mean by “know how to use it” it’s literally a shotgun with slightly less range and higher spread that can then turn into a super precise pistol
The boltshot has a higher 1 hit kill range than the shotgun in H4. Fun fact.
I could never utilize it properly nor did I care to try to
Like, I like it. It can have a higher accuracy then the H4 Magnum. It can be shitty when not used properly, but its not terrible
It's because he doesn't play online halo. Seems like he USED to play halo or has dabbled a bit but he doesn't play a lot.
The bolt shot was so good, I had it in my starting loadouts
the focus rifle is lowkey op. you can just spam flinch someone at a further range from you and then finish them off with a quick switch to a different weapon
Reach's weapons were pretty balanced...aside from the dmr being almost as op as the H2 br.
Edit: HOLD UP THE H4 BOLTSHOT WHAT!? The H4 boltshot literally broke the sandbox. You spawn with a one shot kill secondary shotgun that invalidates melees. That gun is no where near close to being one of Halo's worst guns.
Yeah... and nobody actually used it because it wasn't very good for anything other than deliberate ambushes at point-blank range. And even then.
@@BrickBuster2552 Halo 2's carbine was better than the BR. But in HALO 3 it was nerfed into oblivion. It was still usable but nowhere near its HALO 2 iteration. And yeah... Bolt Shot here was fairly accurate. It isnt the god tier weapon everyone claims. It IS good if you use it properly but even then its range is relatively short, which does little in the long term when most enemies are fought at mid to long range.
I'd argue the DMR was more broken than the H2 BR, because if you play without bloom it's impossible to use any other gun than the DMR, and if you play with bloom then you're forced to play with Bloom.
the bolt shot was pretty easy to counter if you listen, it is so loud when it chares up you just listen to someone doing it around a corner and wait like 5 seconds and then you kill them easy.
The only thing that triggered me was the lack of understanding of when to use the plasma pistol. Use it against vehicles to stop their driving temporary and most weapons on them. Supper effective on flying vehicles.
only in 3 reach and 4 and 5
its also super useful when dual wielded in a sneak attack. What it does to vehicals it can do to a players shields, leaving them open to 2 seconds of smg/plasma/spiker rounds (or the brute shot if you know how to use it).
The Focus Rifle in Reach was great for deterring snipers on the other team, plus it gave their position away to your teammates since they can see where you're shooting. It's also not bad for whittling down players' shields from long distance.
I never really found a good use for the Brute Spiker. The blades on the front are cool, but the projectile speed is way too slow to make it viable in Multiplayer.
I also hate that they replaced the plasma rifle with the storm rifle
Clone action figure Block 212 I agree
Clone action figure Block 212 I can understand that, but I didn’t mind because I always thought the plasma “rifle” looked like a handgun, you don’t use a rifle with one hand
Unless you were playing fiesta no one used it in multi-player.. In campaign you usually always had better options.. Soo mehh
in halo 4 i believe the discription of the gun said they turned the plasma rifle into an actual rifle or something like that i’m not sure but i wanted the plasma rifle as well
GOGETA yeah they should have had both of the guns
When you're filming it would be a good idea to maybe tweet about it or something so people can join and play custom games so you have more footage. Like imagine one of those Focus Rifle games but with like 10+ people instead of 3
Might wanna include a seizure warning with it.
And with someone who actually knows how to use it. 'Cause the thing is an absolute beast with a little practice.
Fos Kuvol iirc doesn’t the beam have like a sub one second ttk in close quarters?
@@theolddeus9672 It has a sub 1 second ttk at all ranges. People just don't like it because it's not an instant headshot like the Sniper... But it IS the strongest Automatic and Utility weapon in the game at the same time.
I really enjoyed using the Plasma Repeater, I liked the fact that you could cool it down manually. I got into the habit of cooling it down constantly, similar to how I reload all the time when not in combat but I do see where you're coming with it, if you don't know how to use it right it's your enemy not your friend.
Also it's good for popping elite shields if there's no plasma pistols around.
Halo 3 flamethrower is super satisfying, especially as you can use it to peak corners as a turret and wipe out an entire room. Its literally the only turret I actually do almost always pick up. Only need to come out of cover for half a second and you can see them the whole time. Once they're alight they're dead... unlike the flood that it was designed for ironically.
I wish they would just bring back the brute shot, not a fan of the concussion rifle or plasma caster
I just want Halo 3's sandbox.
The BR in Halo 3 is godly, the AR is trash(y), the magnum is "meh", and some weapons like the spiker are garbage. Evej with all these flaws, it's still an enjoyable experience. 343i should have just balance tweaked it and rolled with it for Halo 4 (add in the promethian guns and call it a day).
somebody hasnt played with Halo2’s BR
Halo Reach had a good artstyle and level design.
The armor abilities while divisive, where fun to use.
The reach assault rifle is good, maybe not the best weapon in the game, but it’s definitely useable.
It's just that the DMR did everything and it was more often a starting weapon as the game went on. At least what I remember.
Nope, the jetpack was garbage.
zorin234 actually no, the magnum has a quicker time to kill at closer ranges no matter how fast you shoot the dmr and plus it shot slower making every miss make more of a difference then with the magnum.
Kelis 98 Nah, I hate reachs art style making everything bigger didn’t do it for me. And the elite armor I really didn’t like to many useless pointy bits and curves that made no sense.
Leif MJ
But then thats really only valid if your magnum is made of magic and has no bloom - something which was most aggressive on the magnum. The DMR still had some gross bloom, but it was easier to land your shots at any range, whereas the magnum’s bloom meant the landing of shots became nigh impossible at its highest rate of fire, unless you were literally in like, melee range of your target. On the same note, I think it was the DMR’s manageable bloom that made it feel like one of the most consistent weapons in reach.
My old bolt shot strat that wasn’t meeting people around corners was to run if people shot me first, then hide and wait with the bolt shot out.
I actually liked the Halo 4 suppressor in campaign. It could take out knights fairly easily and since there was so many of them you never had to worry about running out of ammo.
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It's pretty good on the lower difficulties, but once you change the difficulty to heroic or legendary, it becomes next to useless
While I love the Halo series, honestly, almost all of the Halo games have had pretty poor weapon balance: Each game has one token precision weapon that's both powerful AND versatile more or less being the only non-power weapon worth using in the vast majority of situations, with stuff like the AR, SMG, Plasma Rifle, etc being largerly both weak and niche in utility.
The number one thing I would want for infinite is for this to change: Halo does need a versatile utility weapon all players spawn with which is versatile and rewards skill enough so that a skilled player with no pickups can still beat a less skilled player with power weapons, but that DOESN'T require that utility weapon to nessacarily centralize the entier meta around it and for other non-power weapons to be not worth using.
I think what needs to change to accomplish this is for Halo to stop having a precision-auto binary: As is, pretty much all automatic guns are weak, non versatile, and are purely for spray and pray so they don't reward skill, while precision guns are generally both powerful, versatile, and DO reward skill while also being usable for avewreage players, which leads to a situation where autos have all the weaknesses and none of the benefits and precision guns have no weaknesses and all of the pros:
We need to start making automatics actually reward skill some so they are more then just spray and pray weapons , that way they can either be made more powerful (say, the SMG) or more versatile (say, the AR: make it actually reward and be viable to use in short accurate bursts at mid range) without them being too easy to use to justify that thanks to them now rewarding skill; and on the flip side precision guns need to either be harder to use, or need to be more exclusively ranged guns (say the DMR) or still versatile and rewarding skill as utility weapons, but being less overtly powerful outside of situations where you outskill the other player and being more jack of all trade guns (the pistol).
I really want a Halo game where I don't feel punished and at a disadvantage for using like half the guns in the game.
in halo CE everyone spawns with the hand cannon, so skill is rewarded
Except halo3. That game has perfect balance.
Sooooooo the Halo 2 battle rifle......
Also I should put this out there Bungie's halo games weren't focused towards PVP play. The weapon sandboxes were primarily developed with campaign balance in mind. Halo 4/5 were balanced more towards multiplayer though.
The halo 5 magnum is insane, it has long range and everyone spawns with it
I personally thought the halo reach assault rifle was pretty good at medium and short range but it may just have been the different crosshair.
Any halo weapon that requires skill gap: *Exists*
Rocket Sloth: That's a bad weapon.
Eh? Most of the point for the weapons mentioned are spray based, ala most suitable for spraying and praying, and are only expected to do much if the enemy was already injured. Plasma repeaters were more inaccurate compared to the rifle, the storm rifle was a plasma overheating version of the assault rifle, and the needler has auto tracking, a gimmick meant assist a lower skill ceiling.
I can't comment on the boltshot from halo 4, as i didn't play that, but the only two precision weapons there were the H2 magnum and reach focus rifle. The most skilled snipers i have ever played with have difficulty fighting with the focus rifle against more casual players with sniper rifles. its easy to dodge, its ToK is flat worse then every other precision weapon in reach assuming headshots, and it overheated so easily. The h2 magnum. Hitting every headshot with a full magazine isn't just flat..especially when you compare to the H2 BR that dominated the meta so much, which was similarly a precision weapon, that required 3 headshot trigger pulls. At equal skill levels, the magnum was unviable.
Well except for halo 5, man did that halo suck
Agreed
Raf Did things you only hate halo 5 because everybody else
I loved the bolt shot. Having a tiny shotgun for close range or using it as a pseudo smg with decent tracking to get around corners and fleeing enemies was just amazing. So many matches won by using the boltshot.
The Boltshot is a lifeline in the campaign on higher difficulties, the charge shot is incredibly valuable in killing the more annoying Prometheans
I disagree. You need to be standing very close to knights for it to be effective which pretty much gets you killed after you lose all of your health to an undodgeable melee attack. If you are talking about crawlers you do somewhat have a point, but you should always have a precision weapon like a magnum or a light rifle when you're going against them.
The Reach DMR/ 2, 3 BR/CE Magnum tend to make using anything else a step down, relativistically taking a huge steaming dump on the rest of the sandbox.
9:33 uhhh... This man... All the guns require you how to use them... He's talking like if the other guns don't require "how to use them".
Ikr, kinda cheesy argument
@RocketSloth I also hated the Storm Rifle for that very reason.
After I realized I couldn't make my Elite, my first move was to check out Load outs and see about equipping a Plasma Rifle.
I got double wammied right there.
Triple, actually. My brothers and I didn't have a Hard Drive to download the multiplayer onto initially.
Halo 3 shotgun was nerfed at some point. They done a big balance update with the MP and the big thing was the melee clashes but they snuck in some weapon nerfs too.
That Cortano/Squarespace advertising was clever and creative
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He wouldn't have mentioned it if the sponsors was at the end of the video
I specifically remember the halo 2 needler being such a massive downgrade from other needlers. I could see the line of thinking sort of like: "oh they can dual wield stuff now so we gotta downgrade the weapons or they will be overpowered" but they went a biiiiit too far.
I disagree. Dual needlers in halo can take down a full overshield in like 1.5 seconds, try it if you're bored. On the other hand the likely hood of being able to pull that off is a bit low. If there's anything that makes it underpowered it's the decreased homing ability
The best thing about "Fuel rod gun" was seeing a Warthog running towards you and, after one direct shot, seeing it again but this time running towards the moon.
The Halo 4 hammer doesn’t make you FEEL like Halo.
I’m bad with the plasma repeater so it’s bad.
You have to know how to use the boltshot for it to be good...
That shotgun gameplay was infuriating to watch lol, halo 3's shotgun was meant for cqc hence the shoot once then melee
@Deathtrooper204 In Halo 2 atleast it's a spammy gun. In Halo 3 it's a glorified punch.
absolutely right. That said, the suppressor looks and sounds great.
May I also call out the SMG from H2?
Yeah. Basically every weapon in halo 2 is trash except the BR and power weapons.
@@JJCcubes42 As I understand, Bunjie had difficulties balancing the weapons and dual wield in Halo 2, sadly.
@@caseyhall2320 Likely from the rushed development cycle due to them taking so long building the engine.
The SMG was bad at killing things but great for stripping shields.
Dual wielding has never been good in multiplayer on average.
Dual smgs and plasma rifles were good supprt weapons in 2 and 3. Needlers were broken in campaign during 2. Everything else has been gimmicky in my opinion.
Focus rifle is useful for campaign when you want to melt shields imo, I also used it in the mission where you disable the jammer and killed 3/4 hunters in one jammer room using the beam rifle
I've really been watching lots of the rocket sloth videos lately, and I only have one gripe, talking about a sound or a small video clip and not playing it, I get blue balled every time man.
Anyone else love the mauler just walking around insta killing all foes
I wish the Mauler was in all Halo games.
Mauler was a neat weapon but it was just a shotgun reskin in Halo 3's sandbox.
It went the way of the spiker, a underdeveloped weapon that fell off the face of the earth after Halo 3.
@@SkyNinja759 spiker was great
Halo is the most useless weapon you cant kill anything with it. Sucks ass
@@jakesimmonds5043 halo is the worst weapon??????.what??????
Worst Weapons in every Halo game:
-CE
Assault Rifle. Default game modes in Multiplayer start on respawn hitting the Y button. Change my mind. Unusuable in Campaign on harder difficulties except against the flood. For dealing with the Covenant, Noob Combo or some power weapon will always do you better, and when all else fails you can always find a Plasma Rifle. For the Flood, it has some use against Carriers and Infection forms, but otherwise you're better running Shotgun/Pistol to keep them at a distance or crowd control upclose.
Runner Up: Needler. Every Needler has a "sweet spot" where if you catch an enemy at that range out in the open you can fire just enough needles to super combine them and they're guaranteed to be dead. Unfotunately, the Halo: CE needles travel so slowly that if they're facing away from you and hear you firing, they still have enough time to turn around and fire 3 pistol rounds into your head killing you before dying themselves. You could've just shot them with the Magnum instead.
Dishonourable Mention: Sniper Rifle. Useless against the flood. No other complaints.
-H2
Pistol. Basically the same gripes as your video. Not enough damage per bullet. Too many STK. Though I would mention there's no zoom on this one. Theoretically has the shortest time to kill of the conventional weapons if you pair it with the Plasma Pistol and pop them in the head. But Dual-Wielding in Halo 2 was broken AF and required you to run it on some weapons to get a decent TTK out of them: Plasma Rifle, SMG, and Needler come to mind.
Runner Up: Plasma Pistol. You used this for the overcharge, not the actual primary fire. We don't see a decent version of this until Halo: Reach, which removed Dual Wielding.
Dishonourable Mention: Needler. It's good if its dual wielded and you catch them in that sweet spot. Otherwise it's garbage. Fun in Campaign though when not on Legendary, but Legendary in Halo 2 is also broken AF.
-H3
Magnum. How far this damn thing has fallen. At least you could reasonably pop someone with the H2 Pistol. Oh and there's no zoom. Its STK isn't terrible, but has such a slow refire time that its DPS is garbage. In even Halo 3 Zombies this was a last desparate attempt weapon. The AR out guns this thing at mid-range, it's absurd.
Runner Up: Spiker. Shitter version of the SMG. Neither hit-scan, nor a close range monster. Oh and the SMG was seriously gimpped in this game, I'm not sorry that it was gone for the next few versions of Halo. Anyways, Spiker: neat weapon, utterly useless otherwise.
Dishonourable Mention: Plasma Pistol. You never used this to kill someone, you disabled a vehicle or stripped their shields. If you did use it to land the killing blow, you went out of your way to manage it. It's in the same boat as its Halo 2 cousin, TTK too long, too many shots have to land to kill.
-ODST
Tactical Magnum. Pains me to say this, in a game without the BR, the substitute is completely outshined by the Covenant Carbine. Which you should be swapping out for at every opportunity. The saving grace for this weapon is the decent zoom and headshot capability, but it does utterly pitiful damage to shield and health alike and so it is propped up purely on its ability to dome baddies. The Covenant Carbine is this weapon, but better: More shots in a magazine, more damage per shot, and controlable recoil. How a bloody pistol has more kick than a gun firing radioactive darts at like mach 7 is beyond me.
Runner Up: Plasma Pistol. Purely because Dual Wielding was removed. Same gripes as Halo 3. Bumped up to Runner Up because you can't combo it with a weapon like the Mauler or Magnum without switching guns.
Dishonourable Mention: Spiker. Same reasons as Halo 3, but falls below the Plasma Pistol since in pure killing potental, the Spiker is better.
-Reach
Plasma Turret. At least on the console versions. The port to MCC/PC has apparently up'd the fire rate on many weapons, and I feel like this was included. It was inaccurate, immobile, and a huge pain to use especially since Armour Abilities couldn't be activated while running disconnected turrets. I'd put the regular MG turret here as well, but at least that thing had bullets that actually connected at range despite not being hit-scan. Worthless against vehicles and infantry alike, the Plasma Turret struck its appearance in Invasion only from what I can tell.
Runner Up: Spiker. How is this thing garbage-esque in litterally every varient I've seen of it. The Mauler would've been a better addition to Reach for the weapon sandbox. Holy Christ, this weapon sucks.
Dishonourable Mention: Assault Rifle. I feel it's bashed a little too much, but I won't reject critism of it. The Halo 4 AR was too good, this thing came up just a little short. I feel if they increases the magazine size from 32 to 40 or distributed whatever extra damage those 8 bullets would've done across the rest of the magazine it would've been worth its weight in salt. Otherwise, I can't help but feel this Reach AR, for as much as I love its aesthetic, sound design, and decent, if lack-lustre, usability, but it still ultimately feels lacking.
-H4
Suppressor. No surprises here. Inaccurate, unreliable, zero utility, no killing potential. You'd think in a game where the AR was borderline OP that an alien version of the same concept: Large magazine, high rate of fire, little damage per bullet, would be decent? Nope.
Runner Up: Shotgun. The Alt-Fire on the Bolt-Shot actually has an insta-kill range that extends further than the Shotgun. Yeah, how's that for a mindfuck? I wouldn't have put this here for any other reason that you can spawn with a Bolt-Shot, that's a whole other can of worms entirely.
Dishonourable Mention: Storm Rifle. Garbage. Never mind the fact that every plasma weapon that runs off a charge in this game has a horrific shot per battery ratio. Never mind that its recoil is some how worse than the AR's despite being a projectile. Never mind that it can't be used at range and its STK is awful. This thing replaced the Plasma Rifle, and that is heresy. The Plasma Repeater offered an alternative, side-varient of the Plasma Rifle. This thing is very clearly "rifle esque" where as the regular Plasma Rifle was meant to be held in one hand by an Elite. This thing completely ruins the aesthetic, sound design, and feel of the Plasma Rifle and I hate it. I hate this weapon to is very core and nothing can convince me that the Storm Rifle should ever be seen in another Halo game, *EVER*. I haven't even played Halo 5, so the hatred I feel for this failedabortion to the weapon sandbox is all the more pure. I didn't much like Halo 4, but I did reach level 70 or something. Can't be bothered to check, the game wasn't worth playing like Reach/3/2 was.
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Overall a good list. I disagree with the needlers being on here. In H2 campaign even on Legendary single needlers make good anti brute weapons and you can take out most other enemies with is as well. It falls most short vs vehicles and hunters if anything. The HCE one is similar in that regard; it takes out most elites nicely and it works well vs flood combat forms as well nevermind grunts. Having a gun that basically makes grenade explosions for you is great. It's not as great in multiplayer though.
Also disagree on the storm rifle but in both our cases that's just a personal thing. I really liked it and always favored it over the assault rifle; classic nostalgia be damned (I say despite being like the only person who's wanted the Mark V back ever since Halo 2 >.>).
@@ChouRaiyuki NAY, IT WAS HERESY!
"Assault rifle is the worst weapon in Halo CE."
Yeah we're gonna stop you right there.
The suppressor was bad?? Halo 4 legendary was laughable but those knights kicked my ass, the one saving Grace was unloading a full clip of that into it the shields were gone and boom headshots with the carbine or light rifle, to hear it's bad compared to the storm rifle is mind blowing.
I'd like to bring up the fact that the Boltshot was considered the "MLG" weapon of Halo 4. Simply because it was easy to get frags with if you abused its charge shot mechanic.
Further cementing that Halo's MLG was a joke. I'm so glad Esports went the way of pros learning the game and adapting, rather than removing 90% of the game's features and spawntrapping other players.
The Halo 2 magnum duel wielded with a plasma pistol is great for taking out Elites on Heroic and Legendary. You can pop out of cover and pick off Elites very quickly thanks to the magnums fast fire rate and head shot capability. Considering how fast you die in Halo 2 that makes getting kills done as fast as possible the priority before moving back into cover.
The Halo 2 needler was overpowered when dual wielded. It supercharged really quickly. Idk how you think its bad. Like on its own yeah but with a second one its great. Thats why it cant dual wield in Halo 3
I am olaying through the Halo 2 campaign with my friend who never played Halo 2. I told him this exact story and he was astonished. The needler was intended to be dual wielded but Bungie backpedaled in Halo 3 becuase of who quickly a super combine can be.
Halo 3 got it right though, as a single weilded needler it had the perfect super combine in my opinion. It's strong, and worthy of a semi-power weapon pickup in 3.
it was great but if i went up against a dual wield needler, the best you will do is trade with me. especially in those days when BR was such widely used gun. very rarely did even a dual wielding needler kill me straight up. i can think of three other dual wields off the top of my head that are better.
I loved the needled in halo 2 especially dual wielding it. The sound of it plus the huge explosion when you kill enemies was always so satisfying to me
The only reason I lile the plasma repeater is that if you turn on bottomless clip it fires like the covenant version of a minigun
I don't know about mp, but in the reach capaign,
the plasma repeater was in some instances very useful,
even though the battery consumption per shot was much higher compared to the plasma rifle,
but so was the fire rate, which in some cases can come in really handy (trying to take down a group of elites on legendary, each equiped with a plasma rifle)
Magazines, not clips. But yeah I agree with this whole list.
Alex oops sorry m8 I pretty much said the same thing but didn’t realize someone already commented.
Agreed.
Lol there’s always someone one of you snowflakes crying about this
Kevin Mayfield why are you apologizing lol
YouReallyDontKnow hey man gotta call people out with their mistakes otherwise they’ll keep making them
The H3 flamethrower is still good for a support weapon, high DPS
The magnums are pretty good for a extra fast noob combo
Brute plasma rifle in one hand, pistol in the other. Back in the day my friends straight up refused to play any map with a brute plasma rifle spawn because this combo would wreck everything else.
@@derekeidum1307
nah, green shit was 100 times better
I have horror stories of the Halo 4 Boltshot from pvp. The thing was a monster in the right hands and matches on Adrift were often dominated by the Boltshot.
Also, matches on Construct in Halo 3 were often decided by the flamethrower.
Now I think that we can all agree that the plasma rifle is better than the storm rifle, but I have found a pretty effective way to use the storm rifle. Since the storm rifle heats up faster than the plasma rifle if you can short 5 shot bursts with the storm rifle than wait like a third a second between each burst, that way it doesn’t heat up nearly as fast and your still getting an effective amount of damage out.
The H3 was easily my favorite magnum. Very usable starting weapon that you don't feel bad dropping.
And it's probably the prime of why I think HE had the best design in the franchise. Enough realism that they don't look like toys while just simple enough (and a tad exaggerated) that they have very unique and pleasing silhouettes.
i felt bad dropping it. i easily cleared floors with it and would try to pick one up if at all possible.
I perfer the CE fuel rod
Also, yes, the plasma rifle being replaced by the storm rifle pissed me off
I remember using the plasma launcher in the reach beta and when the final game came out it just didn’t feel the same. I rarely use it now.
The only one on this list that I actually do really like is the bolt shot. I use it with a DMR. If you catch someone close on radar, crouch to stay off their radar, and either move on them or let them come to you, you can blast them with the bolt shot, then pull out your DMR and get the quick headshot with good consistency if you practice with it.
After playing with the CE fuel Rod Cannon all others afterward seem inferior. The CE fuel Rod Cannon feels like a covenant equal to the rocket launcher, the rest seem like upgraded concussion rifles
I think you mixed that up
Honestly, the only thing that triggered me was the moment you said John and Cortana have a kid... and then showed it... It's in my head now, and it ain't leaving anytime soon.
Brooooo, the freakin fuel rod cannon!!! That thing went hard as nuts
I'm the reason why the fuel rod gun was banned from the halo CE lan parties I used to attend
All I needed to win a round on blood gulch was the fuel rod gun and the magnum, 10/1 KDR by camping with those 2 weapons, eventually it was unanimously decided that anyone who picks up the fuel rod gun would be instantly DQ'd