I had bad plantar fasciaitis in the past, and really, the only remedy is time. It took me a whole year to fully get rid of the pain, and I even feel it a bit from time to time after my runs. I had to get custom made orthotics, but they weren't made for any of my running shoes. I purchased over the counter orthotics and it works fine for me in my running shoes. I generally always wear these orthotics in my shoes when I go running now, especially for speed workouts, and they help me a lot. I would love to stop using them, mostly because they add slight weight to my running shoes, but I would be afraid the pain would return if I stopped using these orthotics. Thank you for this video, it was interesting to know that there are shoes that could also help.
Check out the research mentioned in the video. There is a link in the notes. This explains in good detail about strengthening the tendon. With regards orthotics, check out PHITS custom made, 3D printed, very light and based on a dynamic assessment- been using them for over 5years myself. Paul
One shoe that made my sever plantar facilitis go away completely were some Nike monarch shoes. My supervisor told me to get them and I did and man they are ugly but took my pain away. The downside is that it don’t help your knees at all I use hoka and good inserts and no more pain just looking for some shoes for walking going on a trip soon and I will be walking a lot
@@marathonhandbook I run 5-10 km two/three times a week on asphalt (mainly) and after trying several Hoka models, I have chosen Rincon 3 - light, protective, shock absorbing , and nice to see. I have several pairs for indoor gym, spinning, kickboxing, as well as for everyday walking and office casual dressing. 50+ year old female with chronic plantar fasciitis 😉
This is a very nice video, with some great advice and suggestions, but like stplum, Hoka has been the answer for me. I think there tends to be an automatic assumption that people who have PF need a stability shoe. When I first got it, I bought some of the best insoles on the market designed to control and stabilize the heel, but allow for maximum forefoot flexibility, and they made the problem worse. I had them in a pair of Saucony trail shoes with an 8mm drop. I am a bow-legged underpronator with almost flat arches (no matter how flexible the shoe, I wear the sole’s outer edges more quickly than any other part of the sole) and it was only after I bought a pair of Hoka Ora 3 recovery slides to wear around the house (6mm drop) and a pair of Hoka Challengers (5mm drop) for training AND daily wear that I got relief, and it was immediate. All that said, the best shoes I ever ran in were the Saucony Procyon with the straight last, polyurethane midsole, and no other extreme pronation control devices. But, alas, they were discontinued, as are many other good things in this world.
Hi, came to your video after researching as i have the dreaded PF and a heel spur. Physio recommended gait analysis which showed mild over-pronation. Had that done and bought brooks glycerin gts 21 £165 - they caused my feet so much pain around the arch and inner heel i was nearly crying. So i started to learn about heel drop which i didnt even know was a thing. And ive realised the basic gait analysis doesnt really take into account injury which is fair enough as they arent medical professionals. My issue is i need to replace the brooks, definitely need a wider fit but i have read that higher heel drop generally is good for PF as it takes strain off the ankle and foot but if the plantar pain is on the medial area and arch to go for a lower heel drop. And thats possibly why the brooks weren't good for me as they were high. Do you have any knowledge about this specifically. When i stand in the brooks they feel amazing but after 1.5 hours i had to take them off as the heel and arch pain was so bad. Then when i put my foot back into my flat sliders (that have arch support) it felt like heaven. Im just confused why i have PF but find flatter shoes (with arch support) less painful which goes against general advice for PF and shoes!
Thank you for this very helpful video. I was looking around for shoes like this since I suffer from pain in one of my heels. I was wondering what you think of Skechers Arch Fit 2.0 - Star Bound. I was hoping that it would have been on your list.
Thank you. With regards the the shoes you Mention, the only experience I have is from customers visiting my store having purchased them. In these cases 100% have said they’ve found the ‘arch fit’ to ‘flatten’ very quickly. I can’t find any details of their ‘podiatrist recommended’ claims and with regards the insole, their website states - ‘Podiatrist-designed shape developed with 20 years of data and 120,000 unweighted foot scans’ Unweighted foot scans won’t really help unless of course you are wearing them whilst sat with you feet up!? - ie unweighted !! I do find the brand interesting and would welcome any published research about any of their research or studies. It’s strange how I can find anything on the website especially considering they mention 20 years of data. Good luck with your foot pain.
Thank you so much for you research., really appreciate it. I have been wearing skechers arch fit already before i had pain in one of my heels because it is a soft shoe and it has the arch support. I am not a runner though I use it for walking. I want to buy a new model that is very good when you suffer from plantar fasciitis. That is why I watched your video. I will try the Mizuno wave inspire 19. Very curious to find out how it feels compared to the skechers. @@marathonhandbook
Agree, I am completely confused about which type of shoes to use. I am wearing Saucony's which I love, but I have a bad case of PF. This doc says to use zero drop shoes - ua-cam.com/video/w2WerREnd6k/v-deo.html
Thank You for usefull video! Even if I have neutral pronation its better to use these running shoes with supportive elements while walking and running by plantar fasciitis until the pain will go away? Right? And what if I am forefoot striker? Do I need above mentioned shoes to help with my plantar fasciitis?
As mentioned earlier n the video, we are making general recommendations and an individuals specific needs may differ. It might be best to visit a specialist running store and see how the shoes feel while running. Support through the arch would generally be required when walking as well as running. These shoes aren’t an instant cure! There just provide some support to relieve the pain. Check out the study mentioned, it gives some great information on strengthening the tendon.
@marathon handbook I suffer from a calneal bone spur that contributed to my plantar faciitis. I'm a nurse and walk around 15-17k steps every shift my physio recommended max cushion on shoes and gel pads insert to elevate the heels. Im looking into hoka bondi,clifton,gaviota any thoughts on these shoes for plantar faciitis? Also the exercises given by the physio really helps and I'm overweight and have a really tight hamstring 😢
Generally speaking all the shoes featured are support category models. The CloudMonster is a neutral cushioned shoe, so although it provides great cushioning there’s no specific support which is often considered important for helping with plantar fasciitis.
Have burn feeling under my middle feet. When i walk its not hurt at all, but when i run just for about half mile its always feel hurt n burn. When i walk and run barefoot i dont feel any hurt or burn feel. Just when i put on my shoes,it feel hurt again for couple of meters. Could you help me what is going on with my issues? Thank you 🙏
Hi. Haven’t seen this brand before today. It looks like a neutral cushioned shoe to me, maybe try a shoe with a little arch support. Do they have this type of shoe in their range?
We discuss the merits of each shoe in the video, after that, it's a personal choice. Perhaps visit your local running store to try some of the shoes mentioned. Good luck, thanks for watching.
So your solution is to put people in shoes that squish their toes together in unnatural toe boxes, shortens/tighten the calf muscle by raising the heal, and artificially supports the arch thus preventing the foot from developing it's strength and support?????? I think you've got it all backwards.
Shoes would only ‘squish toes’ if incorrect size / fit. ‘Shortening’ the calf won’t tighten it and a medial support doesn’t reduce foot strength, simply reduced excess stretch of the PF. But thank you for your comments, it would be great to watch your video on the subject, where can we find your video/research.
@@marathonhandbook I would start with the link below and then all the of the videos on her page. She has an entire protocol for foot health related to plantar fasciitis that she gives away for free. ua-cam.com/video/w2WerREnd6k/v-deo.html
I think there is a difference between shoes that prevent problems in the first place and those that help when you already have the condition which the ones recommended here help with.
I found this to be one of the better presentations on the topic
I had bad plantar fasciaitis in the past, and really, the only remedy is time. It took me a whole year to fully get rid of the pain, and I even feel it a bit from time to time after my runs. I had to get custom made orthotics, but they weren't made for any of my running shoes. I purchased over the counter orthotics and it works fine for me in my running shoes. I generally always wear these orthotics in my shoes when I go running now, especially for speed workouts, and they help me a lot. I would love to stop using them, mostly because they add slight weight to my running shoes, but I would be afraid the pain would return if I stopped using these orthotics. Thank you for this video, it was interesting to know that there are shoes that could also help.
Check out the research mentioned in the video. There is a link in the notes. This explains in good detail about strengthening the tendon.
With regards orthotics, check out PHITS custom made, 3D printed, very light and based on a dynamic assessment- been using them for over 5years myself. Paul
Which orthotics do you use? Which brand?
The music is too loud. Great Info. I have tried 860 and GT2000. I will try Mizuno Wave Inspire next
One shoe that made my sever plantar facilitis go away completely were some Nike monarch shoes. My supervisor told me to get them and I did and man they are ugly but took my pain away. The downside is that it don’t help your knees at all I use hoka and good inserts and no more pain just looking for some shoes for walking going on a trip soon and I will be walking a lot
I am using the Hykes Pinnacle and love them.
More research on strength training for plantar fasciitis can be found here - onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sms.12313
Thank you
Not trying to be mean but the music is annoying and distracting. We just want to hear what you are saying don’t need it. Hard to get through this
Appreciate the comments, noted for future 👍
I agree
What do you mean? The music is fire 🔥 😂
Sounds like a 80's porn soundtrack.
How about nimbus gel 25?
Surprised Hoka is not mentioned, it changed my life
Which model? What features do you think had the most benefit?
@@marathonhandbook I run 5-10 km two/three times a week on asphalt (mainly) and after trying several Hoka models, I have chosen Rincon 3 - light, protective, shock absorbing , and nice to see. I have several pairs for indoor gym, spinning, kickboxing, as well as for everyday walking and office casual dressing. 50+ year old female with chronic plantar fasciitis 😉
This is a very nice video, with some great advice and suggestions, but like stplum, Hoka has been the answer for me. I think there tends to be an automatic assumption that people who have PF need a stability shoe. When I first got it, I bought some of the best insoles on the market designed to control and stabilize the heel, but allow for maximum forefoot flexibility, and they made the problem worse. I had them in a pair of Saucony trail shoes with an 8mm drop. I am a bow-legged underpronator with almost flat arches (no matter how flexible the shoe, I wear the sole’s outer edges more quickly than any other part of the sole) and it was only after I bought a pair of Hoka Ora 3 recovery slides to wear around the house (6mm drop) and a pair of Hoka Challengers (5mm drop) for training AND daily wear that I got relief, and it was immediate. All that said, the best shoes I ever ran in were the Saucony Procyon with the straight last, polyurethane midsole, and no other extreme pronation control devices. But, alas, they were discontinued, as are many other good things in this world.
Agree. Hoka Arahi and Hoka Gaviota 3 helped me.
Hoka made my plantar fasciitis pain worse
Would love to see a comparison between the Saucony Guide and their Tempus shoe.
Online forums indicate the Tempus may be the better choice.
Hi, came to your video after researching as i have the dreaded PF and a heel spur. Physio recommended gait analysis which showed mild over-pronation. Had that done and bought brooks glycerin gts 21 £165 - they caused my feet so much pain around the arch and inner heel i was nearly crying. So i started to learn about heel drop which i didnt even know was a thing. And ive realised the basic gait analysis doesnt really take into account injury which is fair enough as they arent medical professionals. My issue is i need to replace the brooks, definitely need a wider fit but i have read that higher heel drop generally is good for PF as it takes strain off the ankle and foot but if the plantar pain is on the medial area and arch to go for a lower heel drop. And thats possibly why the brooks weren't good for me as they were high. Do you have any knowledge about this specifically. When i stand in the brooks they feel amazing but after 1.5 hours i had to take them off as the heel and arch pain was so bad. Then when i put my foot back into my flat sliders (that have arch support) it felt like heaven. Im just confused why i have PF but find flatter shoes (with arch support) less painful which goes against general advice for PF and shoes!
Thank you for this very helpful video. I was looking around for shoes like this since I suffer from pain in one of my heels. I was wondering what you think of Skechers Arch Fit 2.0 - Star Bound. I was hoping that it would have been on your list.
Thank you.
With regards the the shoes you
Mention, the only experience I have is from customers visiting my store having purchased them. In these cases 100% have said they’ve found the ‘arch fit’ to ‘flatten’ very quickly. I can’t find any details of their ‘podiatrist recommended’ claims and with regards the insole, their website states - ‘Podiatrist-designed shape developed with 20 years of data and 120,000 unweighted foot scans’ Unweighted foot scans won’t really help unless of course you are wearing them whilst sat with you feet up!? - ie unweighted !!
I do find the brand interesting and would welcome any published research about any of their research or studies. It’s strange how I can find anything on the website especially considering they mention 20 years of data.
Good luck with your foot pain.
Thank you so much for you research., really appreciate it. I have been wearing skechers arch fit already before i had pain in one of my heels because it is a soft shoe and it has the arch support. I am not a runner though I use it for walking. I want to buy a new model that is very good when you suffer from plantar fasciitis. That is why I watched your video. I will try the Mizuno wave inspire 19. Very curious to find out how it feels compared to the skechers. @@marathonhandbook
Ive seen other videos recommending zero drop shoes for PF and minimalist shoes..dont know why this would be? Maybe to build up natural foot strength?
Not sure, maybe they had some different research that they’ve read?
Agree, I am completely confused about which type of shoes to use. I am wearing Saucony's which I love, but I have a bad case of PF. This doc says to use zero drop shoes - ua-cam.com/video/w2WerREnd6k/v-deo.html
@@annawinn2496 I bought Pro 11 pf inserts on amazon ..less than 10 quid and they sorted my pf..wore them for 8 months..I needed arch support..
Thank You for usefull video! Even if I have neutral pronation its better to use these running shoes with supportive elements while walking and running by plantar fasciitis until the pain will go away? Right? And what if I am forefoot striker? Do I need above mentioned shoes to help with my plantar fasciitis?
As mentioned earlier n the video, we are making general recommendations and an individuals specific needs may differ. It might be best to visit a specialist running store and see how the shoes feel while running. Support through the arch would generally be required when walking as well as running. These shoes aren’t an instant cure! There just provide some support to relieve the pain. Check out the study mentioned, it gives some great information on strengthening the tendon.
@@marathonhandbook thank You very much for prompt answer!
@marathon handbook I suffer from a calneal bone spur that contributed to my plantar faciitis. I'm a nurse and walk around 15-17k steps every shift my physio recommended max cushion on shoes and gel pads insert to elevate the heels. Im looking into hoka bondi,clifton,gaviota any thoughts on these shoes for plantar faciitis? Also the exercises given by the physio really helps and I'm overweight and have a really tight hamstring 😢
So with these shoes and plantar fasciitis should I expect to need/use separate support inserts or do they provide sufficient support?
Is On Cloudmonster good for plantar fasciitis too? Thank you
Generally speaking all the shoes featured are support category models. The CloudMonster is a neutral cushioned shoe, so although it provides great cushioning there’s no specific support which is often considered important for helping with plantar fasciitis.
Have burn feeling under my middle feet. When i walk its not hurt at all, but when i run just for about half mile its always feel hurt n burn. When i walk and run barefoot i dont feel any hurt or burn feel. Just when i put on my shoes,it feel hurt again for couple of meters. Could you help me what is going on with my issues? Thank you 🙏
Can any one answer..
Is plantar fasciitis same as underpronation or supination caused by high arch?
I think from the research I have done any kind of pronation issue can cause PF but plenty of people have pronation differences without developing PF
I have flat feet too so what's the best one for my feet
Marathon Handbook ,do you know if Olimpykus pride 3 can be recommended for those with plantar fasciitis?
Hi. Haven’t seen this brand before today. It looks like a neutral cushioned shoe to me, maybe try a shoe with a little arch support. Do they have this type of shoe in their range?
@@marathonhandbook Olympikus is brazilian brand. In general, Olympikus has a lot of comfortable shoes
Hi, I'm overweight, I don't run. Would you have some recommendations for walking shoes for plantar fasciitis? thanks.
You could use any of these recommendations - none of these shoes are ‘speed specific’ so you can walk or run in them. 👍
In the same boat, I like the Brooks Adrenaline TONS - really reduces my PF pain.
go bare foot walking on grass field few weeks!
Sketchers are £130 a pair at sketchers shops
Which one is most suitable for high arch with plantar fasciitis
We discuss the merits of each shoe in the video, after that, it's a personal choice. Perhaps visit your local running store to try some of the shoes mentioned. Good luck, thanks for watching.
What about boots , can't wear trainers for work
Same principles, elevate the heel, support in the arch. 👍
So your solution is to put people in shoes that squish their toes together in unnatural toe boxes, shortens/tighten the calf muscle by raising the heal, and artificially supports the arch thus preventing the foot from developing it's strength and support?????? I think you've got it all backwards.
Shoes would only ‘squish toes’ if incorrect size / fit.
‘Shortening’ the calf won’t tighten it and a medial support doesn’t reduce foot strength, simply reduced excess stretch of the PF.
But thank you for your comments, it would be great to watch your video on the subject, where can we find your video/research.
@@marathonhandbook I would start with the link below and then all the of the videos on her page. She has an entire protocol for foot health related to plantar fasciitis that she gives away for free.
ua-cam.com/video/w2WerREnd6k/v-deo.html
I think there is a difference between shoes that prevent problems in the first place and those that help when you already have the condition which the ones recommended here help with.
Hmmmmmm, have you seen this docs videos? The advice on what to wear by different parties is so contradictory. ua-cam.com/video/w2WerREnd6k/v-deo.html
Remember.. if you don't use it you'll loose it. Go barefoot and stretch both calf muscles.
No that's bad news for us
the music is insanely annoying bruh
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