Why Indian Courtesans Were Stigmatized as Prostitutes

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @thomasthomasphilp4393
    @thomasthomasphilp4393 6 місяців тому +11

    These women are the custodians of Bharat culture. They fiercely preserved several classical art forms. If you want to really know, who Tawaifs were, watch "Manjari Chaturvedi | The Uncharted History Of India's Tawaifs | At Algebra". The british confiscated the properties of successful transgender women too and banned them.

  • @thomasthomasphilp4393
    @thomasthomasphilp4393 6 місяців тому +9

    We had Devdasis in South India. The famous celestial Carnatic singer, MS Subbhalakshmi belonged to the family of Devdasis, who was married off to a Brahmin family. They preserved Bharatnatayam, Mohiniyattam, Kuchipudi, and other several art forms.

    • @ambroseaarondavid9677
      @ambroseaarondavid9677 6 місяців тому +1

      I don't think kuchipudi was a devadasi performed art.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  6 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing.

    • @thomasthomasphilp4393
      @thomasthomasphilp4393 6 місяців тому

      @@ambroseaarondavid9677 Who were the dancers of Kuchipudi?

    • @drodro7672
      @drodro7672 5 місяців тому

      @@thomasthomasphilp4393 They were a very limited and unique community of trained male Telugu brahmin dancers. Kuchipudi is not related to the dances emerged from the Devadasis tradition (Bharatanatyam, Kathak, Odisi, etc.). It was originally a ritual danced drama limited to very few temples and brahmin communities of Central Andhra around the town of Kuchipudi (the name comes from it). It was till recently only danced and taught among these male brahmins (not all Telugu brahmins of Central Andhra, only from one or more specific caste) of that region.

  • @ReginaJune
    @ReginaJune 5 місяців тому +6

    1:01 how is it different than geisha? Doesn’t every culture have a version? …and while women are stigmatized- what’s up with the men who create the demand?

  • @nadia-i1l5h
    @nadia-i1l5h 6 місяців тому +15

    Like with so many cultural traditions, outsiders came and made it into something it never was. Time to embrace the truth and break the shackles once and for all

    • @ssmot113
      @ssmot113 6 місяців тому

      Those who claim to be "thekadars of culture" are themselves a product of Victorian prudish ideology.

  • @paranoah8550
    @paranoah8550 6 місяців тому +3

    Manjari Chaturvedi has a lot of insight into this topic. Her Courtesan Project has tried to correct this perception

  • @LuizFelipe-lk1hs
    @LuizFelipe-lk1hs 6 місяців тому +6

    There's something going on with that blue screen behind the reporter, not a big fan. Still thanks for the video!

    • @Zidane10-q6s
      @Zidane10-q6s 6 місяців тому

      In the corner up there is the option give excess to you for changing the Background Screen and it's Colors So you can make it Purple Indigo Yellow Burgundy etc 🙏

    • @LuizFelipe-lk1hs
      @LuizFelipe-lk1hs 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Zidane10-q6s I don't have this feature on my youtube, might be a regional thing they didn't add to where I am. Still, I appreciate the help.

    • @Zidane10-q6s
      @Zidane10-q6s 6 місяців тому

      @@LuizFelipe-lk1hs So 😐 Sorry 🙏🙏🙏Mr Luiz Felipe I just forgot the most important sentence at the end of my previous Comment and that sentence is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      (I was Just Kidding )😜🤣😂 please don't get upset 🙏🙏🙏🥰🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️

    • @Zidane10-q6s
      @Zidane10-q6s 6 місяців тому

      @@LuizFelipe-lk1hs So Sorry 🙏🙏🙏❤️🥰🙏🙏

  • @Kun_The_Beginning
    @Kun_The_Beginning 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for talking about it 🙌🏾🙏🏽

  • @hattafayub7231
    @hattafayub7231 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent work

  • @er...
    @er... 6 місяців тому +4

    I can't help being reminded of the late Edward Said's _Orientalism_ in this context.

    • @LoneWulf278
      @LoneWulf278 6 місяців тому +1

      Same here.

    • @DWHistoryandCulture
      @DWHistoryandCulture  6 місяців тому +1

      So true! Very fitting in for this topic.

    • @er...
      @er... 5 місяців тому

      @@DWHistoryandCulture 👍

  • @Apollonia-gi3xk
    @Apollonia-gi3xk 2 місяці тому

    Dalrymple's White Mughals is a good book about how the Brits went from imitating Indian court culture to being stuck up Puritans. It's a good read.

  • @ReginaJune
    @ReginaJune 5 місяців тому +1

    3:27 I thought it had something to do with the Kama sutra or Tantra?

    • @Apollonia-gi3xk
      @Apollonia-gi3xk 2 місяці тому

      @@ReginaJune that's a very ancient book, and, funnily enough, only the last chapter is about sex. It was a book with some general stuff, including how to have a good time under the sheets ig. Tawaifs came much later.

  • @henaimtiyaz4189
    @henaimtiyaz4189 6 місяців тому +2

    Why not make a movie if you want to bring the real life of them to the forefront? At least now people have a picture even if its vague of the struggle of these women. Address the issue if you are worried.

  • @drodro7672
    @drodro7672 6 місяців тому +1

    Ringnoses are also "haram" according to some Islamic interpretations. So it can be the "hidden" truth behind your mom reaction about it. Association of that jewellery with a socially despised community can automatically refrain its widespread among "orthodox" or religious muslim women.
    In India, ringnose is whatever its status in Islam, popular among traditional muslim women. Don't know what's the practices around it in Pakistan.

  • @miriamzajfman4305
    @miriamzajfman4305 6 місяців тому +7

    Were they like the Japanese Geishas ?

    • @nilavanathi7336
      @nilavanathi7336 6 місяців тому +3

      Seems more like Oiran than geisha

    • @ssmot113
      @ssmot113 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@nilavanathi7336I think it's like Geishas. Aren't Oirans more ancient, and more suitable to aristocratic rituals? Tawaifs were more accessible unlike Oirans, I think.

    • @hjad2625
      @hjad2625 5 місяців тому +2

      @@ssmot113 they were courtesans who only kings and nobility had access to

  • @AbhishekKumar-b7h6b
    @AbhishekKumar-b7h6b 5 місяців тому +4

    Yet another veiled attack on Indian culture and heritage by DW using a Pak journalist. Amazing. This true journalism 😂

    • @hhhui6352
      @hhhui6352 5 місяців тому +2

      how is this an attack on indian culture and heritage? it talks about the history facts and statistics please try to accept the truth babe not every part of indian culture is beautiful

    • @AbhishekKumar-b7h6b
      @AbhishekKumar-b7h6b 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@hhhui6352 just because every part of your European history and culture is ugly and dark, don't try to attack ours. Our culture and civilisation is much more decent, ancient and beautiful than Yours and Europeans of all have no right to comment on us Indians. DW should instead focus energy and effort making more documentaries on the barbarianism in ancient ROME, GERMANY, fRANCE AND NOT SO GREAT BRITAIN

    • @subharajchatterjee6806
      @subharajchatterjee6806 9 годин тому

      Mughals were not indian​@@hhhui6352