As point out by Classic WoW Subredditer Snarfi0, you could macro nature's swiftness with max rank healing wave to get that heal out even faster. Also, as an option, nature's guidance can be a great talent for leveling for extra spell and melee hit rating!!
how do you feel this build compares to the other top 3 shaman leveling builds out there posted on this channel? I understand this would be lower than those, but is it still viable? or only a small difference between this build and enhancement or elemental.
I decided to try this very same thing, so I'm grateful for a video about it! I'd recommend 0/7/44 though, Imp. Ghost Wolf is necessary IMO and the 2 point loss in resto is meaningless.
I'll second this approach. As I'm leveling on a PvP server, I can't tell you how many times having Imp. Ghost Wolf has saved me from a gank-happy alliance at lower levels.
lol... "a holy.... paladin..." - Melderon I've main'd a shaman since classic was a new game. this guide is 100% what I did in classic many years ago. Great guide!
I wanted to like this a few times. Thank you for making shaman the most educated class of OG classic wow. I Play the class 33.3% better than I did years ago. Hope to see you in HC official.
i would argue that spirit is the best stat for all classes while leveling it also increases the health regeneration between pulls and this adds up fast
Spirit is good but remember it isn't equal for all classes. Warriors benefit much more than all other classes. The shaman benefit is actually quite low
I'm leveling a shaman on Light's Hope right now. I'm having fun going 50/50 enhance/resto. I went enough into resto to get 70% reduction to interruption and totem buff. Now I'm working my way down to parry in enhance. I use a shield and fights take a little longer but I'm able to consistently fight mobs 4 levels above me and survive accidental mob pulls.
I'm a bit late to the party but you're the first person I've encountered that levels Shaman the same way I do. That 70% pushback reduction saves your life so much throughout the levelling journey.
Nice guide, imo the best way to lvl up as a resto sham is.. to find a 2 handed arms warrior( cos of the sweeping strikes ), no downtime and no need to do that many quests, just embrace the vanilla grind. Have fun
First of all, I really appreciate you making those videos, they definitely worth a watch. And while resto spec is sure viable even in solo play it is, in my opinion suboptimal, midly saying. One can easily heal 5 mans even in deep enhance spec, if he has a set of + int + mp5 gear. You can easily heal even late-game 5 and 10 man content while elemental-specced through the levels 50-60. Most of the fights are quick and mana is not an issue when you can just sit and drink when you feel like it. That said, you trade most of your solo-killing potential (elemental fury and - cast time on LB and CL) for a mediocre healing boost that you don't really need. Resto is definitely viable when you have a static levelling group or a cooperative guild. For a solo play you still better take ele or enhance path.
This. There is no reason to ever level as a healer, any healing class can heal just fine in their dps spec until level 60. Just gather an int/spirit set on the site, and any dungeon is more than easy enough to heal.
Great guide to a tricky class! Really enjoyed the style and advice included. Defiantly would reccomd this to anyone I know that wants to play shaman in classic!
Did watch video straight away after comment bud and did find it helpful, I'm looking to roll a healer in vanilla this time round as I mainly focused dps last time round, so yeh was good to see this side of the class
Oh boy, after finding out that we only have 2 Short Weeks of TBC Pre Patch, I became scared that I as a future Alliance Resto Shaman won’t be able to hit 60 in 2 weeks (I still might not be able to, but screw it, I will level as Resto from the get go regardless to learn it properly), so I am so glad that a video such as this exists!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one! I'm in no hurry to ding 60, but I am serious about healing. I'll be leveling duo with a warrior, so DPS is not a concern.
Great guide, even though I’ll be playing alliance. I suppose that puts me in the category of people who watch whatever you bring out, because it’s entertaining to watch.
What do you think about moving the 5 points out of totemic focus into convection? Edit: adding onto the question; do you think the mana discount on convection is too low? As Resto Shamans while leveling do we even use damage spells that often? Do we use enough totems often enough for totemic focus to be worth it? Should I not put points into either and instead get improved lighting shield and improved ghost wolf?
Thank god for this video. I played a enhancement shaman when wow came out. And for the release of classic I want to try resto this time around and this was super helpful!
Been Resto Shaman for 15 years and will level as Resto in Classic. My main goals in the leveling is to get full dungeon runs done. Especially Maurodon, Sunken Temple, BRD and LBRS. I think its easier to get into good groups as 5/46. :)
Nice, going the same path for classic. Will play on a pvp server, but my goal is raiding and until then dungeons as well. Troll or Tauren would you say?
Im playing wotlk on private which is new, literally i was 5th player joining. I never played wow before legion so i didnt knew how difficult solo lvling resto shaman can be. I mean i can deal with pve so long they dont stack on me, but still i hope more people join to actually do dungs and have someone to group with in questing
Was curiously drawn to see this considering I did in fact level resto back in Vanilla, except I went 20/0/31 so I could provide damage when in world pvp meanwhile being tough to kill then put more in Resto when I hit 60. Personally, I don’t recommend leveling as a pure Resto shammy being that it takes so much longer level with (I probably could have hit 60 almost a month sooner if I leveled more Elemental), but that said I was in fact considered one of the best Resto shams on my server since healing was my entire progressed gameplay. Practically unkillable in PvP & your guildies will notice your healing adeptness
This might be a noob question... but I only got to lv40 in vanilla before BC came out (and it was a drood). What do you do in 5man when no need for heal? I used to spamm chain lightning and lighting bolt and only heal when needed. But that is not an option in vanilla as mana is an issue.
Isnt better in talent tree to 3/3 points in Nature's Guidance? 3% hit from spells and melee will improve a lot better in solo leveling than Ancestral healing (Since you wont get much of crit anyway) or Healing focus, Healing grace.
Great video I loved it! ... I use the fast dagger + shield when leveling resto too! I have leveled as resto quite a few times (to play on different servers with other friends or family) and I go a different route. I go elemental/resto (15/8/28) and try to stack int and spirt for mana pool, regen , and spell dmg bonus. This is not a raid build but a leveling build that can heal normal 5 mans while leveling; I respec for endgame content. This build heals with stead spell casting and does not have the normal "saves" that a true resto heal build would have, it does help teach how to heal efficiently and know how to read the flow of battle (so you don't need the "saves" as much). This build focuses on using shocks and totems for damage while leveling solo. I have not found this to have bad mana issues when played right. It's about front loading then letting the DOTs take effect and regen with MP5. It uses shocks to speed up kills but knowing how to manage shocks use and mana does take time. I get mana reduction for shocks and increased damage for shock for solo dps (especially on PVP servers). I have found this build very fun to play even on PVP servers leveling as resto. One more thing fishing is a big plus profession IMO for this build (or any caster). The food from fish give int or MP5 bounes that help with mana regen. classicwowtalents.appspot.com/?talent=11215875_7_855e5i5d03k55c53502000030
I will most definitely be leveling Resto especially since my bro will be doing feral druid. being a tank heal team is a great way to make friends and should have no problem finding a Guild who needs two great raid healers.
I'm going to level and endgame as 0/25/26 or at least 0/22/29. Mana Tide is good, but I think can make a case to go with a melee buffing resto shaman. 1. With Dire Maul in from nearly the start and ZG along soon after, there is more MP5 stuff about and mana will be less of a problem. 2. Given the way private servers have buffed melee, there are going to be a lot of dps warriors and rogues raiding, instead of mages and warlocks. 3. If everyone is right and raids are going to be easier, buffing dps is always a better call than buffing healing. Burn bosses down faster and you need less mana for healing. 4. Levelling, end game farming, PvP and solo are going to be so much easier working towards at least 22 points in enhancement.
AMAZING Guide, thank you very much for sharing this info. I have a question when hit lvl 34. Tier 5 talets are 3/3 Healing way and 1/1 Nature's Swiftness. Then what should I pick first? Tidal mastery for the crits? (On my sequence I already have 1 point there at this lvl) or Purification for the healing effect?
@@DefcampMelderonTV Thanks for the reply, just one more question: tird tier, only Totemic Mastery seems useful during leveling, in order to get to tier 4 talents I feel that Totemic Focus is most useful than Tidal Focus, not only the 5% is very little on low level healings but the totens are much more needed than the healings even kiting mobs to the totens. classicdb.ch/?talent#hZZtcxzVeko Thats how I think I will get to mana tide. Any plans to test the acctual numbers with those choices at lvl 40?
Here's a genuine request for you. I am planning on leveling a shaman , and i want to be able to heal dungeons while leveling , but i feel like going so deep into resto tree is arguable. Is there any hybrid build that would allow me to heal group content while also being at least somewhat decent at casual world pvp and solo leveling ? I would really appreciate such a thing.
Enhancement can heal dungeons just fine, i leveled a shaman on a private server, i had full enhance build. i just kept a set with int/spirit/spellpower gear you switch when doing dungeons.. some people go elemental as level 40 ( which i will do), they will heal JUST fine in dungeons. Consider taking 5/5 in Increased Healing wave, for the 0.5 faster heal. i Will take that on enchancement too, since its huge on a pvp server to cast fast heals.
hey man, great video. but let me ask. Do you have a list of your addons and a good website to get some vanilla addons? you got some crazy things going on there
I think this is really making me think twice about this leveling build. When you do dungeons you are a bit limited as you have to justify every need roll.
Well there are daggers with caster stats and whoever called you a ninja (especially in RFC) is either a major nub or just an angry child. Do what you think is best for you as long as you aren't a greedy blit and ignore trolls
@@RagingDualist well as with every class you might want to play, just ask the group while it's being formed if you could reserve/roll on a specific type of loot so there's no surprises. You don't necessarily need to justify yourself just ask, if you still get negative responses your server must just have a crappy community and I wish you luck
@Austin Wyke I rolled a Shaman. They have a lot of soft CC which is terrific with a Warrior as hard CC breaks (unless it's a stun) and there's Tremor and Windfury totem.
Myyyy man, awesome video! Got many questions answered. Will play classic on a pvp server, but my main goal is raiding. Will the leveling part be much harder as a troll? Also what addons do you use? Any kind and wise soul may answer this :) many thanks again. Great stuff!
Not gonna lie i like the idea i like the theory and i like the rotation. Feels very similar to priest leveling where you dot up shield and wand things to death while abusing the mp5. You lost me though at the dont take dps talents. It would seem more to me like you would go into resto just far enough to grab mana tide then go ele for more fire totem and shock damage or go enh for ghostwolf lightning shield and finish with talents in resto unto 60 respec. Still an interesting take though.
I'm glad you mentioned weapon speed.. In fact.. There are pretty decent items sold by the weapon vendor in ogrim or IF.. there is a good lvl 10 and 20 fist weapon with 1.4&1.5 speed respectively.. P. S. I didn't hear anything on nature's guidance but it's an incredible leveling talent.. +3% hit to melee and spells is great especially because you will be fighting mobs your level or 1-2 lvls above and can increase your overall effectiveness and could maybe save your life if you really need to land that interrupt or final blow. Check out these links because you could find others for free from quests or dungeons classic.wowhead.com/fist-weapons?filter=36;4;1.4 classic.wowhead.com/daggers?filter=36;4;1.4
Do you have a list of the addons you use? I like how clean your ui and stuff is. (edit)... Wow, I'm an idiot and didn't even look at the description. hahaha. scratch that question... also, subbed, love the vids.
Great vid. Long term player back in vanilla, and I want to return and roll a resto shammy. Was wondering whether to level as ele then change to resto by 55.
Im gonna level a resto shaman for sure, i will be leveling 100% with a friend and will do lots of pvp. so i wont be doing a full resto build, but a more pvp focused build that can heal.
Shammans are great fun dont forget they are kinda tanky to a certain lvl. Great way to get groups is be a competent healer. Witch i think shamans do fairly well.
I start a shaman this days ( i am playing priest) but i have a problem. I dont fiend any info about the mana efficiency of the spells/heals . For priests i have fiend 2 sites who show clear what heal is more good with a certain + healing or what spell do more dmg for the mana consume. But i cant fiend any info for shaman. Plz if some 1 have any data plz post a link, will help me a lot.
@@NaabiXx I usually try to burst heal to make use of the 5 second rule and have a mana reserve for when the ish hits the fan. Pugs usually don't watch their threat or mana of casters so things get hairy often.
I am doing this guide and I have full healing/support mindset so it is best paired with alchemy imo. You got that Elixir of Wisdom quite early on, mana drinks on demand and my fav giving your tank all the extra stuff (trolls blood for HP rege, guardian for axtra armor, one for extra HP etc...) tho I do make pots and sell them and stuff, but trust me, tanks will appreciate if you give them few "extra passive def abilities". Also I like picking up flowers around world so it is business with pleasure.
@Dimitris (Defcamp here) as a rogue an under geared shaman, or pretty much any other class that isnt a plate wearer (other than a good frost mage, they just take a few seconds longer :P) if i get a good opener it is pretty much like how you said. But if a geared enhancement/ele gets opener on me its GG as well. A lot depends on gear and who gets opener. Really don't want to find yourself on the other end of a Enhancement shammys big 2h windfury hit.
Yes, in 1v1 open world, if we never spotted the rogue. If I am chilling out in the badlands and even got a whiff of a stealther, I would doggedly keep throwing down magma totem to keep those rogues at Bay. This was not fool proof- a rogue could sprint in between the bursts and pull off their combo, but judging by those who failed it wasn’t an easy move. Of course, I wasn’t leveling resto. NOBODY is crazy enough to level as resto :)
11/9/31 is far superior and your stat allocation is horrendous. you should act basically like an ele shaman but stack spirit/int/spellpower/stam in that order. I can pull endlessly with mana stream down and never drop below 90%, mobs die in about 10 seconds
What are you out to proof? that you can level a shaman in resto? well, yeah...you can. Is it a good idea or even better than the other options? well, no...unless you are part of a leveling grp. The rotation and abilities to use are all correct and reasonable, but imho anybody serious about leveling as a resto will find that rota by themselves within the first 20 hours of playing.
What also irks me is that he tells people to avoid the 3% hit chance talent on a talent build meant for leveling. You don't need all those raiding talents to heal a pre 50 5 man dungeon group lol
I am a advocate for priest leveling as holy as its not that much worse than shadow (if AV was out its hardly worse.) But IDK man I think shamans are probably the worse talents in their healing tree for leveling. So i am more than fine with a bit off meta and using your own brain and evidence. However, priest easily have the best time, Druids can go 13-14 and get a ton from it (granted 40 in shaman gives mana tide >>> swiftmend for leveling, But in 14 points druids get much of what shamans get into the 20-30s points of the tree) faster casts, 15% mana regen in combat, energy and rage with shifting, and insect swarm. Pallies aren't great but a seal buff, 10% str, 12% healing, consecration for 14 points.. pretty good. 21 gives you the super mana back with crit heals and if you go 40 Holy shock is useful. Only difference here is Shaman are just faster than pallies to start. Still it is viable. Great video and work.
As point out by Classic WoW Subredditer Snarfi0, you could macro nature's swiftness with max rank healing wave to get that heal out even faster. Also, as an option, nature's guidance can be a great talent for leveling for extra spell and melee hit rating!!
Defcamp & Melderon TV thanks for doing something original (y)
What mini map add-on are you using?
how do you feel this build compares to the other top 3 shaman leveling builds out there posted on this channel? I understand this would be lower than those, but is it still viable? or only a small difference between this build and enhancement or elemental.
There's an addon called Theorycraft which puts hps/hpm, dps/dpm, etc. values in tooltips for all skills/spells.
I decided to try this very same thing, so I'm grateful for a video about it! I'd recommend 0/7/44 though, Imp. Ghost Wolf is necessary IMO and the 2 point loss in resto is meaningless.
Where would you remove the 2 missing points that you've put in Enhancement instead of Resto?
I'll second this approach. As I'm leveling on a PvP server, I can't tell you how many times having Imp. Ghost Wolf has saved me from a gank-happy alliance at lower levels.
Healing grace is pretty much pointless. I’d rather have the two points in ghost wolf, i agree.
@@eduardkaseberg1378 easy, the threat one
lol... "a holy.... paladin..." - Melderon
I've main'd a shaman since classic was a new game. this guide is 100% what I did in classic many years ago. Great guide!
I wanted to like this a few times.
Thank you for making shaman the most educated class of OG classic wow.
I Play the class 33.3% better than I did years ago.
Hope to see you in HC official.
leveling as shaman: just spirit. Spirit, spirit, more spirit. Frontload damage, done.
Awesome guide I don’t play shamming but now I kind of want to try !
i would argue that spirit is the best stat for all classes while leveling
it also increases the health regeneration between pulls and this adds up fast
Spirit is good but remember it isn't equal for all classes. Warriors benefit much more than all other classes. The shaman benefit is actually quite low
I'm leveling a shaman on Light's Hope right now. I'm having fun going 50/50 enhance/resto. I went enough into resto to get 70% reduction to interruption and totem buff. Now I'm working my way down to parry in enhance. I use a shield and fights take a little longer but I'm able to consistently fight mobs 4 levels above me and survive accidental mob pulls.
I'm a bit late to the party but you're the first person I've encountered that levels Shaman the same way I do. That 70% pushback reduction saves your life so much throughout the levelling journey.
@@CipherNinjaX86 I think it's a fun leveling experience. I recently made another on a hardcore server and it prevents me from dying SO much
@@joshuahafer Have you tried playing Turtle WoW? I'd recommend it over Classic any day!
@@CipherNinjaX86 yes I did hardcore on retail for 1 month before finding turtle wow. The new quests and everything is very fun 😊
@@joshuahafer Oh amazing! I'll probably run into you on Turtle WoW at some point haha
Nice guide, imo the best way to lvl up as a resto sham is.. to find a 2 handed arms warrior( cos of the sweeping strikes ), no downtime and no need to do that many quests, just embrace the vanilla grind. Have fun
Feel like i was the only one that got the Chak, blit and, flak reference. Takes me back thank you.
kodohunt I'm glad you got it
First of all, I really appreciate you making those videos, they definitely worth a watch. And while resto spec is sure viable even in solo play it is, in my opinion suboptimal, midly saying. One can easily heal 5 mans even in deep enhance spec, if he has a set of + int + mp5 gear. You can easily heal even late-game 5 and 10 man content while elemental-specced through the levels 50-60. Most of the fights are quick and mana is not an issue when you can just sit and drink when you feel like it. That said, you trade most of your solo-killing potential (elemental fury and - cast time on LB and CL) for a mediocre healing boost that you don't really need. Resto is definitely viable when you have a static levelling group or a cooperative guild. For a solo play you still better take ele or enhance path.
This. There is no reason to ever level as a healer, any healing class can heal just fine in their dps spec until level 60. Just gather an int/spirit set on the site, and any dungeon is more than easy enough to heal.
Great guide to a tricky class! Really enjoyed the style and advice included. Defiantly would reccomd this to anyone I know that wants to play shaman in classic!
Thanks, my friend. Glad you liked it. As someone who also leveled as healing primary with your priest, I thought you would enjoy!
Did watch video straight away after comment bud and did find it helpful, I'm looking to roll a healer in vanilla this time round as I mainly focused dps last time round, so yeh was good to see this side of the class
Late to the party here. Thanks for doing some outside the box guides. This is the type of stuff we desperately need.
I'm leveling the whole way with a mage while Resto shaman tanking. It's been working like a charm hahaha
Oh boy, after finding out that we only have 2 Short Weeks of TBC Pre Patch, I became scared that I as a future Alliance Resto Shaman won’t be able to hit 60 in 2 weeks (I still might not be able to, but screw it, I will level as Resto from the get go regardless to learn it properly), so I am so glad that a video such as this exists!
I will use this video to level on hardcore server, in duo with my warrior friend ! 😊 Thx Melderon
Great guide. Natute's guidance +3% hit is a must. Mana tide at 40 will make you farm like a monster for that sweet 60%speed mount.
this guide helped me to take my shaman resto from lvl 10 to 60. Good Job
Planning on using this guide to duo-level with a friend who's going to play as a warrior. Thanks for the guide, super helpful!
Trying this on private servers now to see how it plays. Sounds like something I'll want to use in Classic when it launches. Thanks for your work.
André Marques how is it
I think it's fun,@@Donaldburger. The only question is that I've never played Shaman before, so I can't compare it to other specs.
oxhorn references, right in the feels
I'm so glad I'm not the only one! I'm in no hurry to ding 60, but I am serious about healing. I'll be leveling duo with a warrior, so DPS is not a concern.
hey, I'm not the only one who duos with a warrior! :D
Great guide, even though I’ll be playing alliance. I suppose that puts me in the category of people who watch whatever you bring out, because it’s entertaining to watch.
You're my brother-in-arms no matter what! Thanks, Dunedain!
What do you think about moving the 5 points out of totemic focus into convection?
Edit: adding onto the question; do you think the mana discount on convection is too low? As Resto Shamans while leveling do we even use damage spells that often? Do we use enough totems often enough for totemic focus to be worth it? Should I not put points into either and instead get improved lighting shield and improved ghost wolf?
2:25, im one of those fans who watch whatever you put out
Thank god for this video. I played a enhancement shaman when wow came out. And for the release of classic I want to try resto this time around and this was super helpful!
The frantic /dance after the afk killing got me pretty good :D :D ! Take my sub
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed lol
Love the Oxhorn references. You'd never guess he was a wowtuber if you saw his channel now. I wonder if his current fans wonder how he got his name 🤔
Thanks for the guide. Exactly what I was looking for.
Sold! Plus I am now older and wiser and realize Tauren stomp rules over axe specialization almost universally.
LOL stun resist bruh.......
Lando Calrissian I wanted orc ele shaman too but the shaman pvp trinket breaks stun
@@joeweber4246 that trinket is on a high cd. 25% static stun resist plus trinket is way too good to pass up for a minor stun
Troll would be the best for (pve) healing, with faster cast while berserking.
0:30 Busted! This Tauren is really a Paladin. Watch that Holy spell animation!
Ixnatifual lmao!!!
I've Always hated that about chain heal
Just be glad it's not one of those spells you use a lot as a Shaman...
You are making me rolf, dude
I am leveling as ele/resto and this has a lot of good stuff in it for that too
Glad you enjoyed!
Been Resto Shaman for 15 years and will level as Resto in Classic. My main goals in the leveling is to get full dungeon runs done. Especially Maurodon, Sunken Temple, BRD and LBRS. I think its easier to get into good groups as 5/46. :)
Nice, going the same path for classic. Will play on a pvp server, but my goal is raiding and until then dungeons as well. Troll or Tauren would you say?
Leveling as resto, is kinda like leveling as a pala. You tickle the mobs to death
That's true LMAO
But as Resto I have solo'd "3 man quest" that I could not do as either enhance or elemental. It did take an hour or more but I DID IT! =P
Good stuff. Going to level a tauren shaman as resto when we get official HC servers! :)
Im playing wotlk on private which is new, literally i was 5th player joining.
I never played wow before legion so i didnt knew how difficult solo lvling resto shaman can be.
I mean i can deal with pve so long they dont stack on me, but still i hope more people join to actually do dungs and have someone to group with in questing
Was curiously drawn to see this considering I did in fact level resto back in Vanilla, except I went 20/0/31 so I could provide damage when in world pvp meanwhile being tough to kill then put more in Resto when I hit 60. Personally, I don’t recommend leveling as a pure Resto shammy being that it takes so much longer level with (I probably could have hit 60 almost a month sooner if I leveled more Elemental), but that said I was in fact considered one of the best Resto shams on my server since healing was my entire progressed gameplay. Practically unkillable in PvP & your guildies will notice your healing adeptness
This might be a noob question... but I only got to lv40 in vanilla before BC came out (and it was a drood). What do you do in 5man when no need for heal? I used to spamm chain lightning and lighting bolt and only heal when needed. But that is not an option in vanilla as mana is an issue.
Stand there and drop totems
Isnt better in talent tree to 3/3 points in Nature's Guidance? 3% hit from spells and melee will improve a lot better in solo leveling than Ancestral healing (Since you wont get much of crit anyway) or Healing focus, Healing grace.
Great video I loved it! ... I use the fast dagger + shield when leveling resto too!
I have leveled as resto quite a few times (to play on different servers with other friends or family) and I go a different route. I go elemental/resto (15/8/28) and try to stack int and spirt for mana pool, regen , and spell dmg bonus. This is not a raid build but a leveling build that can heal normal 5 mans while leveling; I respec for endgame content. This build heals with stead spell casting and does not have the normal "saves" that a true resto heal build would have, it does help teach how to heal efficiently and know how to read the flow of battle (so you don't need the "saves" as much). This build focuses on using shocks and totems for damage while leveling solo. I have not found this to have bad mana issues when played right. It's about front loading then letting the DOTs take effect and regen with MP5. It uses shocks to speed up kills but knowing how to manage shocks use and mana does take time. I get mana reduction for shocks and increased damage for shock for solo dps (especially on PVP servers). I have found this build very fun to play even on PVP servers leveling as resto. One more thing fishing is a big plus profession IMO for this build (or any caster). The food from fish give int or MP5 bounes that help with mana regen.
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If you are going for a dungeon spam leveling experience with friends as healer, would you follow this spec in classic today?
I will most definitely be leveling Resto especially since my bro will be doing feral druid. being a tank heal team is a great way to make friends and should have no problem finding a Guild who needs two great raid healers.
I'm going to level and endgame as 0/25/26 or at least 0/22/29. Mana Tide is good, but I think can make a case to go with a melee buffing resto shaman.
1. With Dire Maul in from nearly the start and ZG along soon after, there is more MP5 stuff about and mana will be less of a problem.
2. Given the way private servers have buffed melee, there are going to be a lot of dps warriors and rogues raiding, instead of mages and warlocks.
3. If everyone is right and raids are going to be easier, buffing dps is always a better call than buffing healing. Burn bosses down faster and you need less mana for healing.
4. Levelling, end game farming, PvP and solo are going to be so much easier working towards at least 22 points in enhancement.
Great guide, what UI(s) are u using?
I didn't double check the maths on this one, but I heard that the mana totem is better than the healing totem in dungeons.
It is. But like I said in the video, if you don't require the Mana, small heals over time is nice
AMAZING Guide, thank you very much for sharing this info. I have a question when hit lvl 34. Tier 5 talets are 3/3 Healing way and 1/1 Nature's Swiftness. Then what should I pick first? Tidal mastery for the crits? (On my sequence I already have 1 point there at this lvl) or Purification for the healing effect?
I'd go with crits as they will help proc ancestral fortitude. thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoy!
@@DefcampMelderonTV Thanks for the reply, just one more question: tird tier, only Totemic Mastery seems useful during leveling, in order to get to tier 4 talents I feel that Totemic Focus is most useful than Tidal Focus, not only the 5% is very little on low level healings but the totens are much more needed than the healings even kiting mobs to the totens.
classicdb.ch/?talent#hZZtcxzVeko
Thats how I think I will get to mana tide. Any plans to test the acctual numbers with those choices at lvl 40?
Here's a genuine request for you.
I am planning on leveling a shaman , and i want to be able to heal dungeons while leveling , but i feel like going so deep into resto tree is arguable.
Is there any hybrid build that would allow me to heal group content while also being at least somewhat decent at casual world pvp and solo leveling ? I would really appreciate such a thing.
Enhancement can heal dungeons just fine, i leveled a shaman on a private server, i had full enhance build. i just kept a set with int/spirit/spellpower gear you switch when doing dungeons.. some people go elemental as level 40 ( which i will do), they will heal JUST fine in dungeons. Consider taking 5/5 in Increased Healing wave, for the 0.5 faster heal. i Will take that on enchancement too, since its huge on a pvp server to cast fast heals.
@@qzl9 hmmmst
If that's the case than i'll level in enchansment then. Thats good
hey man, great video.
but let me ask. Do you have a list of your addons and a good website to get some vanilla addons? you got some crazy things going on there
Interesting guide!
Thanks!
Great video. Thank you! Definitely saving this.
Just got called a ninja doing RFC and needing on a dagger. Is this something you/others have also experienced?
I think this is really making me think twice about this leveling build. When you do dungeons you are a bit limited as you have to justify every need roll.
Well there are daggers with caster stats and whoever called you a ninja (especially in RFC) is either a major nub or just an angry child. Do what you think is best for you as long as you aren't a greedy blit and ignore trolls
Drew E I agree. It’s just annoying having to justify yourself all the time.
@@RagingDualist well as with every class you might want to play, just ask the group while it's being formed if you could reserve/roll on a specific type of loot so there's no surprises. You don't necessarily need to justify yourself just ask, if you still get negative responses your server must just have a crappy community and I wish you luck
I'm debating between Priest or Shaman with my Warrior friend for PvP.
@Austin Wyke I rolled a Shaman. They have a lot of soft CC which is terrific with a Warrior as hard CC breaks (unless it's a stun) and there's Tremor and Windfury totem.
Myyyy man, awesome video! Got many questions answered. Will play classic on a pvp server, but my main goal is raiding. Will the leveling part be much harder as a troll? Also what addons do you use? Any kind and wise soul may answer this :) many thanks again. Great stuff!
Not gonna lie i like the idea i like the theory and i like the rotation. Feels very similar to priest leveling where you dot up shield and wand things to death while abusing the mp5. You lost me though at the dont take dps talents. It would seem more to me like you would go into resto just far enough to grab mana tide then go ele for more fire totem and shock damage or go enh for ghostwolf lightning shield and finish with talents in resto unto 60 respec.
Still an interesting take though.
Oh crap i think i'm just as crazy as you. I'm seriously thinking about doing this.
never done a healer before, and I'm leaning towards going for this when classic comes out.
Is dagger+flametongue really better than a super slow 1h+windfury? I'm leveling as resto and that's what I've been using.
i follow your guide , is excelent , funny solo and party dungeon too , thanks i love my tauren dagger XD
I'm glad you mentioned weapon speed.. In fact.. There are pretty decent items sold by the weapon vendor in ogrim or IF.. there is a good lvl 10 and 20 fist weapon with 1.4&1.5 speed respectively..
P. S. I didn't hear anything on nature's guidance but it's an incredible leveling talent.. +3% hit to melee and spells is great especially because you will be fighting mobs your level or 1-2 lvls above and can increase your overall effectiveness and could maybe save your life if you really need to land that interrupt or final blow.
Check out these links because you could find others for free from quests or dungeons
classic.wowhead.com/fist-weapons?filter=36;4;1.4
classic.wowhead.com/daggers?filter=36;4;1.4
I thought i was crazy leveling as elemental i guess i'm just a casual afterall
Do you have a list of the addons you use? I like how clean your ui and stuff is. (edit)... Wow, I'm an idiot and didn't even look at the description. hahaha. scratch that question... also, subbed, love the vids.
Thanks for the sub. If you head over to any of our newest vids, add-ons should be in the description!
For sure, I will, thanks.
This was great, thank you! Please make guides in the same vein for holy paladin, holy priest, and resto druid.
Hello brother! What’s the addon name that shows pre healing amount as at 11:14 ? Thank you 🙏🏻
One other way to level fast: Play Orc.
That's a huge damage buff every three minutes that conserves mana. Use on cooldown.
Logan Brace why not a troll?
Its better only perspective.
Hey man, nice video (again) :)
What's your add on to get information about mobs please ?
Great vid. Long term player back in vanilla, and I want to return and roll a resto shammy. Was wondering whether to level as ele then change to resto by 55.
Im gonna level a resto shaman for sure, i will be leveling 100% with a friend and will do lots of pvp. so i wont be doing a full resto build, but a more pvp focused build that can heal.
well done, salutes from moonglade #HybridTeam
Trying this on classic wow currently -- low level still but we'll see how it goes
give us a return, i am 41 and i still questionning about it, enhancement isn't good at all i think! thanks!
I'm pretty sure it's "Ancestors watch over you"
Shammans are great fun dont forget they are kinda tanky to a certain lvl. Great way to get groups is be a competent healer. Witch i think shamans do fairly well.
I start a shaman this days ( i am playing priest) but i have a problem. I dont fiend any info about the mana efficiency of the spells/heals . For priests i have fiend 2 sites who show clear what heal is more good with a certain + healing or what spell do more dmg for the mana consume. But i cant fiend any info for shaman.
Plz if some 1 have any data plz post a link, will help me a lot.
Thanks a lot, loved the video, great insight.
Although I must say, I cringed at the way you wrote the equation at 11:20, it was very avant-garde.
Fun stuff. But I think I'll keep my enhancement spec ;)
This guide even has the backpeddaling in it ^^
Good video I’m gonna play a shaman
Wish there was a bit on healing rotation for dungeons and stuff. I run out of mana a lot in dungeons.
WEll as long as you dont go OOM during an encounter that is no problem
@@NaabiXx I usually try to burst heal to make use of the 5 second rule and have a mana reserve for when the ish hits the fan. Pugs usually don't watch their threat or mana of casters so things get hairy often.
Can you heal 5 man as a shaman with only 11 points in restro tree?
I'm having a really easy time lvling as resto..... Fast weapon with flame tongue weapon i shred through pretty much everything.
What professions would you recommend for resto leveling?
I am doing this guide and I have full healing/support mindset so it is best paired with alchemy imo. You got that Elixir of Wisdom quite early on, mana drinks on demand and my fav giving your tank all the extra stuff (trolls blood for HP rege, guardian for axtra armor, one for extra HP etc...) tho I do make pots and sell them and stuff, but trust me, tanks will appreciate if you give them few "extra passive def abilities". Also I like picking up flowers around world so it is business with pleasure.
please do a walkthrough of this lvlspec on the BETA
Im 18, respec to resto.. haha! Thank you :D
What if I am healing a dungeon but I want to roll for dps gear to make leveling easier?
Wait and see if all the other DPS pass, then say you need it for offspec.
What about professions?
Intellent
Sir, we need a Hardcore leveling build
well shamies in vanilla were like ->stun ->dead -gg, pvp wise right?
Dimitris Tsangaris I wouldn't say that to some of the enhancement and elemental ppl out there. They wreck house
@Dimitris (Defcamp here) as a rogue an under geared shaman, or pretty much any other class that isnt a plate wearer (other than a good frost mage, they just take a few seconds longer :P) if i get a good opener it is pretty much like how you said. But if a geared enhancement/ele gets opener on me its GG as well. A lot depends on gear and who gets opener. Really don't want to find yourself on the other end of a Enhancement shammys big 2h windfury hit.
Yes, in 1v1 open world, if we never spotted the rogue. If I am chilling out in the badlands and even got a whiff of a stealther, I would doggedly keep throwing down magma totem to keep those rogues at Bay. This was not fool proof- a rogue could sprint in between the bursts and pull off their combo, but judging by those who failed it wasn’t an easy move.
Of course, I wasn’t leveling resto. NOBODY is crazy enough to level as resto :)
Can you do one for priest too pls? :)
We plan on making guides in the future for every class and leveling spec. Stay tuned! and keep an eye out on classicwow.live
Ah, Oxhorn swears.
Nice video
Hehe first, great vid lol well I'm sure it will be
11/9/31 is far superior and your stat allocation is horrendous. you should act basically like an ele shaman but stack spirit/int/spellpower/stam in that order. I can pull endlessly with mana stream down and never drop below 90%, mobs die in about 10 seconds
What are you out to proof? that you can level a shaman in resto? well, yeah...you can. Is it a good idea or even better than the other options? well, no...unless you are part of a leveling grp. The rotation and abilities to use are all correct and reasonable, but imho anybody serious about leveling as a resto will find that rota by themselves within the first 20 hours of playing.
What also irks me is that he tells people to avoid the 3% hit chance talent on a talent build meant for leveling. You don't need all those raiding talents to heal a pre 50 5 man dungeon group lol
I am a advocate for priest leveling as holy as its not that much worse than shadow (if AV was out its hardly worse.) But IDK man I think shamans are probably the worse talents in their healing tree for leveling. So i am more than fine with a bit off meta and using your own brain and evidence.
However, priest easily have the best time, Druids can go 13-14 and get a ton from it (granted 40 in shaman gives mana tide >>> swiftmend for leveling, But in 14 points druids get much of what shamans get into the 20-30s points of the tree) faster casts, 15% mana regen in combat, energy and rage with shifting, and insect swarm. Pallies aren't great but a seal buff, 10% str, 12% healing, consecration for 14 points.. pretty good. 21 gives you the super mana back with crit heals and if you go 40 Holy shock is useful. Only difference here is Shaman are just faster than pallies to start. Still it is viable.
Great video and work.
In theory you can get to lvl 60 with any spec with any class, it won't be easy, but you already decided playing vanilla.
What is MP5 gear??
mana per 5 seconds. The gear will say, X mana per 5 seconds. It statically increases mana outside the 5-second rule
@@DefcampMelderonTV ty
nice oxhorn comment
Ask a human mage for water :)