I Accidentally Spent $15,000 To Build My "BUDGET" Engine And It Still Might Explode
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Want to learn the secret math to figure out your pushrod length? Derek explains it great here- ua-cam.com/video/YIitbcf0IWA/v-deo.html
Well there's your problem, your hands are gigantic for them spiral locks.
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I have to do a build on my N55 here soon and when I am done I want to build my K20 and convert the SI to AWD. So these videos are so full of such great information. I am very appreciative of the information. Also that water in your water bottle was looking rough lol.
Thanks for explaining things it's awesome
Holy crap Jared and I are around the same age...I might even be older...
I hope a guy is getting a surge tank for Earl. That was the biggest problem our boy Derek had with Independence. Whenever he was making cookies, it would starve the fuel pump, and stall the rig. Maybe the guys at KSR could fab it for you too.
Such a small team making videos at this quality that entertains, teaches, and well paced just shows the amount of dedication and talent here. I’d say it’s better than the programs on Velocity/Motortrend cable channel.
I learned way more about engines watching Jared than years watching cable TV motoring shows.
Prof Jared segments are THE BEST!
Amen Freddy Jared Tyler an the wizard are 1000x better than any cable tv car shows.... most of the TV versions are faked bigger then shit an the cars are garbage that barley runs....another entertaining crew is rust valley restorers I think they just slap shit together an over look alot but it's entertaining enough
@@joshuarisker5525 not so much Freddy ,not a fan of that Putz
Speaking of Velocity, I stopped watching Car Fix, ever since Jared and Lou left. Then the monkeys Velocity replaced them with, the show became unwatchable 😒
As somebody working in IT for some 40 years now I can assure you "HP" means high price half performance! 😊
HP squared!
HAHAHAHA indeed.
HD Harley Davidson …..hundreds of dollars
As a fellow IT person, OMG. HP sucks!
Oh I'm also an IT guy and for me and my sphere HP stands for Huge problem.
I've been working on and upgrading my project for 4 yrs now. I understand how it happens after you fix the simplest thing. You start looking deeper then OCD kicks in and then next thing you know your building a shop and the wife wants to know why she can't got to Target
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My fear is that, after I die, my wife sells my motorcycles and motorcycle gear for what I told her I paid for it.
@@dragineeztoo61 "Its ok, he said it was the cheap stuff off amazon."
@@dragineeztoo61 😂😂! all my expensive power tools came from harbour freight!! Yeah that Milwaukee chop saw. I got it for $20 at harbor freight! 😜 Followed by no. I don't feel like steaks. let's make some chili dogs! I love that chop saw
Hey Jared an $800 big block bro I have one sitting in my garage you can have it's missing a few Pistons but the crank the heads and all are there it's a free engine and there's a 327 sitting there you can have it all, come pick it up.
"so do you want a top fuel drag, or a budget drag?"
Jared: "yes"
And 2 in 2 weeks!
I love how Jared is such a knowledgeable brainiac yet is down to earth and not afraid to poke a little fun at himself.
I bet you could build a crazy car using the parts Freddie has acquired over the years. Would make for a great series. A hodge podge build. See how many different manufacturers you could make work on a build.
Honestly? I would LOVE to see that!
Spiralocks are a pain and are prone to failure resulting in piston pins scoring the block. I switched to "round wire locks" easier to install and they never failed me in about 20 engine rebuilds.
Whats wrong with teflon buttons?
@@milescarter7803 they also fail...maybe not as bad as spiralocks, but still not as reliable as round wire locks.
Your work ethic is exceptional.Great content as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Jared is a workin dude!!
He deserves every bit of success he gets!!!
Keep wrenching Jared!!! 👍
best comment Kent
Old school know how beats 'theoretical engine assembly' every time. My cousin graduated with a degree...an actual degree...in mechanical engineering and he worked on one motor. It was an electric motor for a boat for a project. But he can tell his dad, who owns a large European mechanics shop with 12 mechanics and technicians employed, all the things they do wrong. The kid has never worked on a car's engine ever, but that degree he feels gives him the authority of knowledge.
My 77 yo dad calls them "educated idiots"
Theoretical knowledge works in a perfect world. But the world is far from perfect.
The ideal combination is theoretical knowledge and practical experience.
@@Jumbojet776 The irony is that he became a mechanical engineer to help his dad. His dad wanted to build engines for racecars. His dad dreamed of using a 6.2L V8 AMG engine or the 2.4L Audi engine. But he never picked up a Wrench His whole life. Now I listen to him talk about his dad's shop...the very shop that paid for him to go to school and get an education...how it's outdated and the men and women working there are uneducated and backwards. Meanwhile, the lowest paid technician there makes 35% more than he does working at Raytheon.
@Utube Fknsucks sounds like a good story do tell
@TA you did not disappoint
Don't forget ,remember 2 bolt mains,seeing how you didn't do a 4 bolt main conversion you will have to watch your RPM's ,limit it,your revs ,cause it will depart this earth septacturly massive blow up ,rev limit your engine ,check for how far it'll go ,before she blows like a whale
Pretty crazy when you put a 6K - 7K budget on an engine and it get up to 12K. Now I just found out today that it’s going to get to 15K.
Need to get a Dart block to get it to work correctly. All about clearance for a 383 with beefy Rods. Will have all of this on our channel if we can get it done one day. Getting setback every week.
Great work putting the video together editing was on point as always. Great video, keep up the good work.
Hi Jared, i am surprised the machine shop didn't mention or look into splaying the 2 bolt, essentially making it a 4 bolt, but splaying tends to make them stronger, its very common in drag and circle track motors. I worry with all that work and money you spend, that the 2 bolt may not hold all the pressure you will be applying to it. Thank you for making enjoyable and informative content i always look foward to more episodes!
We had that conversation, but for the actual power output we decided we would be in the good side of things. Since the tires are spinning it’s lower stress than a drag motor
Great video Jared 👍 love the indepth motor builds. It helps us alot, can't wait for for the burnout tournament ✌️
Did you check bearing clearances at all? One tip I also heard is to keep the assembly lube about 1/4" away from the edge of the main bearings. Then do not spin the crank until the caps are torqued. This helps prevent any assembly lube from getting behind the bearings, which might increase the chance of spinning the bearings.
Man, that ring gapping is stressful to watch. I did my first set back in 2018 when I built my truck's 4.7. All my build experience prior was air cooled VWs where I bought pre-assembled jug & piston sets. I guess I got them right though. Over 17k miles on the built now.
You know I think push rod engines are fairly archaic. I've seen them 20 years ago still on the road here. But those where inline 4s. Basically every car here has ohc engines mostly dohc. But that's Germany. I guess they have their advances when used for torque. Not Rpms.
dude, that burnout at cleetus and cars was freaking SICK AF! My favorite one for sure!
The designation "HP" on the block is just a mold number, it has no significance other than to show which mold pieces Tonawanda used that day to cast it. If the block was a special HP piece it would have bowties all over it or say DART on it. Also, you should weigh the final engine before it goes in (probably too late) take some external measurements to compare with the VG30TT, you might just be surprised.
Attaboy! You are doing great on your content, bud. You are more than a third of the way to a million. Keep it up!
I really, really appreciate you taking the time to explain things. I did small engine repair class for 2 years in high school, and even though it's been WAY too long since I tore anything down, but while you talked about the orientation of the piston rings, I was reminded of the time that a kid put at least one ring back on upside down and smoked us out of the shop.
There's something to be said about building your own motors but a blueprint 638s about 12 Grand right now. I so much want
build a motor on the stand myself that makes it worth it it's like growing your own vegetables. Or catching your own fish.etc. it just taste so much better.
If that Crank and those Pistons are balanced... (and they are)
2 bolt main should hold in there just fine. I don't think it matters if you over RPM it....it happens.....it's fun!!! 😁🤷
when building Engines, I like my pistons to end up being .10 down in the hole and a .39 Gasket. If the Block is Good you could just get a Eagle Crank Combo, pre-Balanced Crank, Rods, Pistons W/Rings & bearings, Ready to assemble, which saves Time at a machinist & that saves money. I never buy Custom Engine parts, if it breaks , it could be months for replacement. Your 2 bolt should be good to 6K RPM just my 2 cent's
I just seen your burnout at Bristol, that was one of the best, you had some mad control on that car 🤘🤩🤘
You just rolled off the burnout pad. FANTASTIC job!!
Jarrod, I took a $1,000 car and said the same thing. $20,000 later I have a $1,000 car still. but she's gonna rip!
tranny..... you're gonna need a good one. manual valve body.
It's funny, in hydraulic repair we wipe nothing down with rags as the lint can be an issue. Compressed air and kerosene all the way.
Back before you were born, we used to talk about how the 2 bolt mains revved harder. We were kids, so maybe we were clueless. I'm just saying that maybe the 2 bolt mains aren't such a bad thing.
Once again you've explained something, oil additives, to me in a way that clicked for the first time. Other channels have mentioned it in passing but never gone into detail or not in laymans terms I understand, and Engine Masters goes in to too much detail and I just get lost. Thanks again, love your channel, I'm learning a lot and the positive, can do, nothing phases you attitude is something I can aspire to.
If I remember right, it was 84 -85 we built a 396 for my 71 CST and had the wrong timing cover. It had us scratching our heads, but apparently it happens. Roadblock looking good 👍
It's a little disturbing how you talk about this car in the previous Z32 video. Those cars are beautiful, expensive, and hard to find now, so be careful and take pride in it. The Mark IV family is the most well developed internal combustion engine family in the world, and aluminum blocks can and should be had. Unfortunately prices have gone nuts due to the tariffs, but prior to that you could have gotten a conjoined bored aluminum block from Speedmaster for about $3500 ready to build. That's with billet steel main caps, and it'll support a 4.600" bore and a 4.250" stroke, which gives you 565ci, or 9.2L. It would weigh about 500lbs, which makes it no heavier than the TT VG that it came with. Add a TR6060 and get rid of the 4WS and the car could be AMAZING. No idea why the import guys can't understand 2v pushrod tech, it's MORE advanced than 4v OHC designs and came LATER. More displacement with LESS external area and weight. If you do more research you'll learn that this could be an amazing car that shouldn't be spun into a wall to amuse a bunch of tanagers. Please, for the love of god don't cut a hole in that beautiful hood.
To get rid of crickets get some diatomaceous earth and lay down a thin layer of it all along your walls and under anything along the walls, like your toolboxes.
I always wondered why ppl don't swap a mercedes v8, or coyote, or vk56. They are cheaply available these days with full harness, ecu, and intake/exhaust. 400-500hp. Its always more expensive trying to get more power from a cheap engine
Totally awesome, I am just a novice enthusiast, but this engine has me drooling. The super parts plus having you put it together correctly has me anticipating the engine of dreams!
33:51 that one water passage is half blocked by the copper
I hope this engine works out for your Sir & the Drive Train can take it, GOOD LUCK, Henry from N.E. PA.
Valvoline is great oil...not so happy to hear about their recent sale to an overseas company though 😞
I like how he smiled when he said "I've spent too much" heheheheeee!!!! Lol.
Always impressed watching you work and share knowledge. This thing is going to be awesome!
Sealant on the cap parting line as helps as well.
A studded 2 bolt should be safe up to 7k rpm naturally aspirated
Buy some Tempo and spray it around the foundation inside and outside..never have to deal with crickets again. Works for black flies as well.
The title is how so many projects go lol
16:03 "Set it..."
"AND FORGET IT"
Wonder if Wrench Every Day/Gerard remembers to upgrade the drive shaft and esp the rear axle gearbox and axle for all extra new power - we do not to do a John Ross here when they rebuilt the Rolls-Royce
Nice video 📹 Jared and Workmanship
I've spent like $22,000 on mine T^T.
Well at least between the engine and transmission at least. The engine was probably +/- $19,000. Everything is brand new. Cast iron 7.0L all forged everything LS of course. I built it myself so I saved some money there. I finally drove it last week after about 2 years of slowly buying parts to put on it, drop it in the car, and iron out problems. The issue I have now Is stopping it. The brakes didn't work as expected so that's the next very important thing to fix. But it moves and drives. Also yes torquing down head bolts/studs is the most terrifying thing.
Best episode until now of this channel. Loved the tech talk oriented approach.
Wanna know the best way to get a reliable and bulletproof engine? Have my grandpa build it for you. It'll cost you a little extra but it'll be the best engine you've ever had. We got a full machine shop at the house to do every step of a full fresh rebuild. He's built several engines for big name people. Even built a bike engine for orange county choppers. Lmk if you need that top of the line engine. 😁
His 66 caprice he built for the drag strip has a small block 350 that make 900 to the crank and its carbed with no power adders lmao.
You probably needed to check your damper (not a balancer unless it has a counterweight) hub clearance, alot of aftermarkets are too tight and need a little hone to spec proper press clearance
Is the plan to break in the motor on the skidpad? When the tires blow, its broke in?
If you are planning to add boost later to the engine, is bigger ring cap needed? Nitrous oxide engines do need need bigger caps.
Wow Jared you have MASSIVELY over specd the engine for a burnout car.
I don't know what size and diameter tires you are going to use but all you need is a combo that at the very most {for crowd safety reasons} will pull 200 mph wheel speed. That will blitz tires in 30 ~ 40 seconds. Even if you go for 40" tall off road tires they will be gone in a minute. Set your MSD box soft limit to 6500 rpm and gear it accordingly. For many years the Aussie burnout champion car only used a Holden/Buick 3800 V6 and that was before time limits were imposed. The Important factor you have missed is if you plan to do multiple high speed doughnuts you should take a good look at the oil system to prevent starvation at high side G's.
What ever you have to say so the wife is satisfied? Cast crank will handle more than what you think. Unless you are boosting or revving it too 8k, cast is good. Billet caps or at least steel one's go a long way too
omg that comment about spiral locks is so true lol!. Had to set spiral locks on my built bottom end and they were such a pain in the ass lol.
don't try to fill the combustion chamber on the head with the Piston use a flat top piston and make the combustion chamber smaller the dome creates a damn for the flame front and then you should soften the head where the flat part of the Pistons going to come up close to it so it has a greater area or it not the supper from any suction when it changes direction which can rob you of a little horsepower if not done
2 bolt main blocks are better, you can have billet 4 bolt splayed main caps cut for it.
I've had a bunch of problems running the bronze distributor gears on the street they only last about a thousand miles so if there's any Street driving that's going to happen you will do better with the polymer plastic gear because as the bronze gear wears down it throws lots of bronze metal in the oil
There are lots of options, but this engines duty is just burnout competition use. If you did burn up that fast I would make 100% the mesh is spot on, and your lubrication is on point, as you should see a bit more life
@@TheQuestionableGarage put the polymer gear on on there 3 years ago and have never had a problem since
Hey my friend i like all your videos i wish that one of this days a have the honor to meet you, well that been said have a great day and keep up your good work
Yeah it looks like that button was really giving you a lot of trouble. I seen that it even made you pull some of your hair out 😆 . 35:23
I broke my crank bolt in the car.
71 nova 454
That car gave me hell while she could.
The turbo400 never cried just leaked a lil.
It is videos like this that make me want to petition UA-cam to add a LOVE button.
Zink is also important for sheer, as example in better hydraulic oils. have higher levels of Zink. Sheer is also critical cold starts that end up under heavy loads quickly
Great work Jared! Been a long time since I built a Big Block. Keep it up.
I used a socket to dent the front cover until the cam movement was where it should be... this was on a stamped cover. I would mill out a small area of yours if its cast.
Lol remember the commercial deer park thats good water 💧
So bummed I won’t be making it to Bristol to see this monster in action. Keep it up Jared!
Hey Jared, just one question. Are you going to change the designation of your car to a 454ZX Nissan? Thanks for the great tutorial on building a ridiculously overpriced 2 bolt Chevy big block. It should be fine as long as you limit your revs. It should prove to be an incredible burnout or an incredible failure. I love your questionable choices. Thanks and we'll see you next time.
720ZX
I think you should have tried to find a car/race block with 4 bolt mains since you ended up putting all these other parts into the engine. But cool build none the less
11:00 does your grinders handle come off easily? If it does and the shaft is small enough put your cordless drill on it maybe. Just set the speed to low
HP is gonna mean “happy place” when you’re done with that engine because that is where it’ll will want to go! 🤣
What's with the misalignment of those gasket holes with the holes in the block? And the tiny holes in the gasket over the big holes in the block?
This is Roadkill levels of throwing expensive parts at junk. He REALY got robbed on not having a 4 bolt…
Hell, I bought a 2 bolt main small block and the first thing I did was convert it to 4 bolt splayed caps. With the way this build was shaping up, I just assumed Jared would do the same.
@@brian_sipe $15,000 & only 2 bolt mains, WTF ? Plus you have to build the damn thing yourself ?
Jared this 300ZX build is going to melt tires! One important question I have for you is WHEN are we going to see the Hellcat Redeye swap into Roadblock video? Im guessing its going to premiere on Tavarish's channel but I need to know WHEN?
Going to be so fun this weekend. Can you explain how burnout contests work? How do they judge one burnout vs another to determine a winner?
Budget build... standing behind a big block with dual carb high rise manifold on top of aftermarket aluminum heads.
Ummm. Budget usually means a small block with reasonable internals in a clean cast iron block and heads. Balanced and blue printed, pump gas, 100 percent street.
It's only a dumb decision if the wife finds out 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 other then that it was a brilliant idea and I'm sure UA-cam monetization will help cover some of the over budget engine build....keep killing it brother you,ed,Freddy an Tyler are hands down the best car guys on UA-cam not including the wizard cause he's in a league of his own with his yachts lol
way to go man!~ get some upgraded push rods if you can
We had a cricket that took up residence in our en suite bathtub. Every time I would go after him, he would go down the drain. After 2 sleepless nights, I went full napalm on him. I used every chemical I had down the drain and into the overflow
really enjoying this build !! double dog dare you to put a scots mans hat on the carbs. the cars black mad max it. this will be a hoot to watch spray rubber
The HP on that block means Highly Probable. Meaning "will this engine blow up at Cleetus and Cars?" HIGHLY PROBABLE
I don't know if I would have gone for such an agressive solid camshaft, you could have gone for a nice Hydraulic Roller and maybe used a rubber timing belt set to soak up the harmonics. But one thing I would have definitely done, is to get the inner main caps changed for 4 bolt splayed caps instead of leaving it 2 bolt, thats cheap insurance for these blocks. I would have found a Tall Deck 427 so I could use the bigger stroke cranks and maybe a small base circle cam too.
Dang it, I knew I should have built my own understanding.
Thanks for teaching us so many things 👍🏻
Why dont the head gaskets cover the deck of the block up to the bores?
Love how the passion bleeds through in these types of videos. Need more Pyra though. Pira or Pyra? Cute floof!!
You could use the Future Cam the same way they did in Spaceballs, just record footage in the future, see what you get right & wrong and use that knowledge to work faster. lol
Awesome. Can’t wait to see the Lexus next
My guy goes heavy on the white lithium. Nice work Jbird.
Jared so sleep deprived he’s conversing with crickets in the middle of the night
Sweet build!
You kinda remind me of my brother, if he knew anything about cars...at all.
At 33:02 you seem to get white adhesive in the cylinder. Did you clean that out? Can still see it at 34:30
leans in the doorway......sips some tea ......deep sigh.....walks away
Did thay offer to drill the block for splayed 4 bolt caps?
I know it's prob too late... But for future reference ;-)
Maybe something like a Manley Pushrod Length Checkers 42133 to go with the adjustable pushrod or if you want to get fancy, something like Lunati Cams 80125...
PS if you're going to be doing braided lines spend the $ on a KOUL Tools Hose Assembly Kit 3330-COMBO Highly recommended and I promis Your fingers will thank you !!
To be fair the majority of shows on UA-cam and car channels think $15,000 is a budget engine build.
This show should be called - Wrench 24/7 While Sleeping.
Slowly disappearing - Art of custom internal combustion engine building.
Derek’s great grand kids are going to be amazed - Pops you had to do all that ? That’s way too hard and complicated.
Why didn’t you use High Out Put Electric Uranium Super Charged Turbo Ceramic Motor?
It has 2500 horsepower and 10,000 Torque !