Quail feeders - modifying the J-feeder for less waste
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Quail are notorious for wasting feed and just about every conceivable idea for building the perfect feeder has been tried. In this video I show you how I modify a J style feeder to prevent feed loss.
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Breeding quails with all these videos from Terry. It's so easy even a cave man can do it!!! I've saved more than 15% on time and $ by watching these videos.
I am just getting started raising quail. I like your videos they are direct and to the point. You have a great looking setup
I use similar metal J-feeders as well. I love that you can put labels on the feeders. I've found that using magnets with the info attached work best for me. I can easily move the magnets around if needed and easy to take off when I'm cleaning the feeders. Great videos! Thanks for putting the work into sharing your experience and knowledge. It is appreciated!
Great idea using magnets! Thanks for commenting
I'm glad Stromberg's added free shipping ($100+) to their website, because the shipping costs on those feeders was way too much. I used this video and the comments on it to make my design. I used 1x1 vinyl 90 degree corner strips along the trough area. The sides are bent straight and the front is bent to around 110 degrees. I made my own welded wire to go on top of that, which is .75" x 1.5" and 18ga. The welded wire is also at a 22.5 degree angle so they can't stand on it.
With this setup, they can't rake the food forward or shake it out along the edge of the trough. It works in grow out cages too. I haven't seen any feed on the poop trays.
Love your video. It inspired me to use a j feeder for my cage and also modified it a bit. I added a rectangular plastic bottle at the top to increase the feed capacity and to also see if the feed is getting low since the plastic bottle is transparent.
I followed your lead on this with the exception that I used 1/2" by 1" wire and trimmed up the openings to make them 1" by 1" and it has been working wonderfully. I've got a few birds that still waste a fair amount of feed, but there's been a significant reduction in their wasted food collecting underneath the feeders. Thanks for sharing this idea!
Great mod, Terry! I combined your mod with a "feed flow restricting baffle" mod I saw over on fellow Tuber Aloha Quails. His video is titled "No waste quail feeder. Is it possible ? YES" If you fiddle with the size of the gap enough, the amount of feed that accumulates in the trough of the feeder can be significantly reduced but is ever present due to the quail agitating the feeder. My feed waste is almost nothing now. Thanks again for the great videos and timely responses to questions!
I just bought a 5 pack, thank you for the information on how to add this to my setup and eliminate waste.
Thank you!
I was just watching another quail feeder design video and I thought it was perfect lol. This seems even better if you have stacked cages. Thanks for sharing. Janice
Hi Terry
Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge.
I wish that I could setup my own farm.
Thank you... really appreciate your videos... always can use great ideas !
Just started watching love it so far my quail are out side live in Edinburg va going to try the feeders out
Thanks for the comment! Good luck with your quail and feeder mods.
Me too i am going to make a quil soon luckily i saw your video in your channel sir and i get more idea from your video God bless sit in your quil farm
good info like what u are doing my grandpa did the same back in the 50,&60 I miss him
Very Nice informative video
Excellent Job
Thanks for sharing
Thank you!
Upcoming video from a commercial quail farm?? I'm here because Coturnix Corner IS a great commercial quail farm!
THIS was very helpful. Great idea and will work for sure. A big saver... Thank you.
This will be my 2024 spring project...
Glad I saw the video on j feeder modification because my quail want to sit on the feed and eat and scratch the food out and then it's not available for them to eat right now my cage's are outdoors so my free range chickens will eat what falls but it means feed cost for the quail is higher from the spilled feed my cage's already had j-feeders from the rabbits that were in them when I got the cage's
Very nice, I appreciate yer efforts to post this info.
Those are great I’m ordering plenty
thats a great idea for chickens too
Very very good
Thanks man I just bought a hundred of these for those Bobwhites I am getting. I am a cage making fool now heavy on fool lol.
LOL, thanks for commenting.
I’m loving your videos
Glad to hear it ... thanks for the comment!
Great video. Thank you.
great job like your videos lot of great ideas
Sept 2022 - those 11.5" Econo Feeder with Lid (j-feeders) are now $10.99 plus shipping. Good idea thanks!
Awesome videos. Very useful
To eliminate feed waste I use the 5" feeder then screw an electrical plug cover to the face so they can't drag the feed out
Good idea! Thanks for sharing
Very nice Cage Sir 👌
I like that ♥️♥️👍👍👍
Thank you sir, I'm going to do this my rabbit feeders, the babys waste 50% of my feed if not more.
Great!
Awesome thank you so much for the information. Love that you do such a good job stream lining things and saving time.
Hey there, I really appreciate all that you have shared from which I have learned much. I have a question: What size J FEEDER is suitable for 6-10 birds? I just purchased one on Amazon and when it arrived I thought, it's too small. The entire unit is just 5 inches left to right; the hopper is 5-6 inches tall x 3 inches deep, front to back. It's hard to gage how much food this will hold and how long it can be expected to last before refilling is needed. You stated yours is 7 inches in this video. how many birds is yours feeding?
I'm thinking instead of using the cage wire to create slots, what about using a piece of plastic and cut small circles out of it ? Just like one of those round brooder feeders. Wonder if they'd still be able to fling feed around with that.
I love your videos
4 years later - $12.75… That’s some increase, Stromberg’s!
Could you make a video detailing this version of your quail pens?
Terry,
Hey there again. I've watched your multi-level cage build video for the shorter length versions, but the LONG cages to which you attached this feeder is what I really want to build (I've got a 21 ft wall and a 13 ft wall for my cage positions).
I'm dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to cutting and building things; theory doesn't do me squat, if I have the numbers written down in front of me, so that I know what specific lengths and widths to cut (for the frame, the Poop Tray supports, and the Egg Roller Shelf (I'm STILL a bit 'iffy' on the proper angle to cut for that sucker...I think you said 4 degrees, but I wasn't sure), THEN it's just like a big jigsaw puzzle that makes sense (I can look at the paper I've written noting each piece, so that part A goes 'here', and part B attaches to part A x number of inches down the length of part A (ie, the support braces for the 'flooring' for each level).
But in my head, when I'm just thinking about it, only SOME of it makes sense and I get easily lost......3 D was never my strong suit: if it's on paper, with the measurements, I can build it, but that's the only way that works for me.
I've looked online for free cut list programs and I can't find one that shows me what I need, just the numbers but none of them are attached to what those numbers refer to at all. Like I said, I'm dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to this stuff....Abstract Construction just doesn't gel with me. Don't get me started on wiring; I stay as FAR AWAY from wiring as I possibly can.
Anywho, thanks for your hard work on the videos, and you've just solved the Feeder issues for me......I love your mods on the feeder, easy peasy, should preclude most waste issues (can't stop it 100% with any bird). Do they make a longer feeder, so that the feed hopper lasts longer between refills?
Lastly, I've been looking at DuMor and Purina Wild Game Feeds. The DuMor offers Medicated and non-Medicated, while the Purina seems to offer 3 varieties of Game Bird Chow. The DuMor hovers around 24% protein, while the Purina offerings come in at 30%. The DuMor is a bit cheaper (under $2.00 less), but that extra 6% protein seems like a wise choice from chick stage up to 10 weeks when they become adults. I figure I could switch over to DuMor 24% at that stage (non-Med so it doesn't affect the eggs), as I'll be feeding them meal worms I raise, along with Barley/Wheat Fodder. (and providing Grit for digestion as well, witih the 'live' food I'll be feeding).
Thanks again. Stay safe.
Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY
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Great info. I'm going to copy this template for outdoors. Do you think 1/2" mesh to cover the top will prevent outdoor animals from stealing the food from the j feeder?
Very nice and safety to feed, please close the feeder with lid ,protect from rodent's if you have there...
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Hou do you make a yard charmer pin
what are the best temperature and the humidity to use
I am trying to find j-feeders, and I am not finding them and I can not find where you said to get them. Thank you for your help.
I did something similar! I tucked the front under the lip and push the back just below the bend with a tab out both end and bend them down so cant be pushed down!!
Sounds like a good idea. Thanks for watching!
Great tip, was searching for a way to make less waste feeder for the stacked cages i'm building now.
I have some questions :
what measurement do you recommend for the coated hardware cloth in the floor ? Note i only have metric sizes and want to get the best footing and waste dropping rate.
What is slope angle for the eggs to roll out fast and safe, my cages are 2 feet deep x 3.3 feet wide
What is the best height all in all between the sloping floor and the feeder so my eggs can come out easily + the quails don't have a problem reaching feed?
14 mm X 14 mm on the hardware cloth. For the slope I use a 2" drop in 2 feet. My feeders are approximately 5" off the floor of the cage. Good luck and thanks for commenting.
@@CoturnixCorner this was helpful and very close to what i was planning
usually i ask here bcz i get the simple right answer not rocket science complications. Thank you
Is there a video of you building these stacked cages?
Can u have full time feeders
Terry, I've seen daily feed consumption averages of 16 gm (.56 oz) to 60 gm (2.11 oz) per adult Coturnix quail. I'm trying to budget for feed costs but those figures are too varied. Wondering if you have calculated a daily/bird average feed consumption rate. Your information is considered gospel around here! Thanks!
I have not, sorry
Nice feeder, but there is no visibility to see the level of the food
Terry ... will the J-Feeders hook to the 1/2 in hardware cloth on the stacked cages you built?
Love your videos. Really informative. Sometimes I get really small eggs. Why is that ? & Could they hatch ?
Do you have a video on how you built your cages?
Hey buddy, love your videos. Just a quick question. I have built my quail cages like yours but outside. Are these J feeders water proof or if not do you know of any waterproof feeders? Cheers
The J-feeders have an open top so water and pest can get in. They to make lids for them which will help keep out anything you don't want in there, including water.
Hi Terry, how many 12 Inches j feeder do you recommend for 35 jumbo quails between 4 weeks and 8 weeks? I was planning to do one but from what I can see these guys eat constantly.
I had a poor hatch rate. And noticed the membrane had separated from the shell. Is this poor humidity ?
I did that with my J feeders and the stupid birds would still manage to rake back the feed and get it to fall out. My J feeders have a small lip in the front too... I used the tip from Aloha quails to narrow the aperture from the hopper using glued on cardboard. Only a small layer of feed would be dispensed to the feed tray with that modification and they couldn't rake it back.
It worked until I used feed I got from a local mill. The feed was a little bit too moist, which caused it to not dispense properly. Once I tore off the cardboard, they were already back to raking the feed out.
I have noticed that I too get some waste even with this modification, although it is much less than with out. I tried the tip from Aloha quails also, it worked temporarily until the cardboard got flimsy. I am testing a metal baffle that can be pop riveted into the feeder. I'll let you know how that works out. Another thing that works pretty well is going to a pellet feed for all your adult birds, they don't seem to kick that out as much.
Quail are just slobs, they always think there's a better piece of food below. Thanks for commenting!
@@CoturnixCorner I used an abandoned election sign instead of cardboard. And zip ties instead of cage wire since I didn't have any wire around. Turned out to be 1 of 2 feeder designs out of the 5-6 I tried that didn't waste food. Thanks for the info.
Terry, The Stromberg link is leading to a blank page. Can you let us know what model J-Feeder you are using here? I can't seem to find anything in the 11-inch range.
Terry,
Just starting all this. I know I saw a video before of the cages you have on the right being built but I don’t see it any longer. Could you repost again. Also is there a difference in what you use the cages on the right verses the ones on the left or is it just an evolution in your preference?
I never did a full build video on the layer cages, here are the links to the only two cage videos I did. ua-cam.com/video/w5VGuEQHXGY/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/OyIM6Zf6iUc/v-deo.html
Just a note: these have more than doubled in price since this was made!
I am thinking raising quail for eggs but how often you need to clean those cages? Are they better than chickens maintenance wise?
Terry, will they fit on the 4 tier wayona cage?
Are these the Jumbo Browns or just the standard size pharaohs?
They are from jumbo wild stock and I breed for jumbos, but not all make weight so they fall into the standard size coturnix. Thanks for commenting!
@@CoturnixCorner I'm interested in eggs from the smaller birds.
Where did you get your feeders. I love the channel.
Strombergs sells them. www.strombergschickens.com/
Sir I want to start quile farming how much need a space for 1000 birds.Plese advice.
I just love your set up so much BUT it wouldn't work for me. I live in the desert and every wildlife here would get through and eat my birds and eggs. You have a beautiful set up.
Thank you, and I appreciate the comment!
What are you talking about? Unless the wildlife in your area has angle grinders, they won't be getting into cages with steel wire on them.
How do I order eggs from you i live in Nevada Missouri
Where can i buy those. J feeders ?
Stromberg's
Hi Terry I noticed on the comfortplast quail cage review that on their feeder, besides an orange 1"x1" grid there was a green strip that kept the quail from pulling the feed backwards and out . Wouldn't that be something that could be added to your modified J-Feeder? A modification of the modified J-Feeder? I was trying to think of a material that could be used but couldn't come up with one. Any thoughts?
It's funny you said that, I am currently testing different designs just for that. Will post my findings soon!
Terry, where do you live in Florida?
Fort Myers area
Hi am trying to buy some J feeder about 8 are 6 of them. Am in the UK the posted that they are asking is very bad as they want $300 for post plus.
plz make a video on how to make j feeder from iron sheet
Myshire Farm has a video on that.
Terry
Are you still satisfied with the mod on these J feeders?
Is there any waste?
Anything you would change?
TY
Scott Overstreet still use them everyday with very little waste
How many coturnix quail can I put in a 48 inch X 36 inch floor cage ?
Dwight Vincent Around 12. 4’x3’=12 sq ft. 1sq ft per full grown bird is pretty good.
They are $8.99 now on that website
my last quail hutch was a disaster all the eggs were fertile but only 4 hutched and they all had feet problems also and died after 2 days the rest of the eggs when I opened them all had chicks in them this is the second time that I hutched quail the first time was 90% successful what has happened this time can you help?
Usually when you lose and entire hatch it points to an incubation problem. Malformed chicks are usually the result of too high of incubation temperatures. Calibrate your thermometers and test incubator for a week or so to verify proper incubator temps.
hi, I'm in Romania and can't find that kind of feeder. Any links or ideas where can I purchase them?
Rabbit supply stores should have them. Get the ones with the solid bottom not screened.
@@grantp8833 Thank you for the info. love your chanel! I built a cage almost similar to yours. i intend to build a cabinet incubator soon.
I see some people have their quail feeding thru 1x1 cage have you tried that at all?
I have seen others using 1x1, I have not tried it yet. Thanks for the comments!
I've never raised quail before but I want to use this when I start. About how many quail is one of these feeders good for? I want to have about 16 quail and am wondering if 1 feeder is enough or should I get 2. Thank you.
I use one feeder for every 15 birds. Keep the feeder full as not all the birds will eat at the same time. For 16 birds one feeder is sufficient. Thanks for commenting!
@@CoturnixCorner thank you for replying!🙂
One feeder last 15 birds how long? 2-3 days?
3yrs later they are 11.99 each...
there $9.00 now as of 3/22
YHVH Willing YHVH Bless
Its the same pig feeder
Hello sir, I have a problem, sorry I can't understand ur languages, because I am Indian and pls u talk to in Hindi language. Thanks
Too much effort. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for quails that way. They are still going to waste the food.