Best High Resolution Full-Frame Cameras (Canon EOS R5, Sony a7R IV, Nikon Z7 II, Panasonic S1R)
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- What's the best high resolution mirrorless camera? We compare the Canon EOS R5, Sony a7R IV, Nikon Z7 II and Panasonic S1R to find out. Learn which high resolution camera is best for you!
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"lens variety or quality" should be a category.
"Ecosystem" or even better "native ecosystem" should be a category for sure. A body isn't useful without glass and it's best served by native glass.
@@IanHobday honestly, some of the non-native Sony glass is better than the native stuff. Same for EF Canon glass.
But I mentioned lens variety to include more affordable options because not many people are willing to spend 2k per native mount lens just because that's the only option in a given focal length. Canon's 50mm 1.2 is great but it's not the right choice for most people. They'd be better served by a cheaper, smaller 1.8 or something
@@vikmanphotography7984 By "native" I mean using the native protocols, not reverse engineered. Sony licenses their mount and protocols to Tamron and Sigma which is one of the reasons their E mount lenses are so awesome. The new Sigma 85/1.4 DG DN is a great example, I can't wait for them to bring out more DG DN primes!
@@IanHobday took Sigma a while but they managed to reverse engineer EF protocols really well towards the end. And idk what samyang/rokinon is doing in terms of licensing vs reverse engineering but *everything after their first few AF lenses work great (stay away from the 50 and 35 1.4 lenses)
@@vikmanphotography7984 The difference is that Canon and Nikon actively work against the 3rd party makers and try to break compatibility. This is why you see things like Sigma's USB dock and the USB ports in some lens mounts. They have to be able to upgrade firmware to maintain functionality. It's very anti-consumer for Canon and Nikon to behave like this and such a nice change to see Sony doing licensing deals.
Samyang/Rokinon and Viltrox make some interesting stuff but the reliability isn't there yet.
Nikon Z7II all the way for me please!
Bought one in December, to replace my 2014 D810 and gotta say; really loving it ! And loved the fact that they kept the ergonomics pretty much the same as older F-mount (you miss a dedicated AF mode selector+button & metering button but you can remap them to FN 1,2 or the record button in stills mode) dSLR's. Made the switch to mirrorless very easy.
Not with these SONY fan boys. So biased its laughable
@@richardgorski23 I would love to jump on to Z system someday. Currently I'm doing most my still work on D750. and use a7III for all video work. I like the HLG from Sony and it seems to color grade better for me. Stills from D750 still have the color and the tone that works better for me most of the time. Perspective from food/portrait photography
I have to wait.... I would love to jump on the Z7II boat but the auto-tracking isn't there yet.
Same
These guys could talk about anything and I'd still be watching. That and the fact that you have this great dynamic and analyze every camera both from a Photo and Video standpoint.
Z7 with the 14-30mm f4 and the 24-70mm f4 for landscapes. Incredible resolution sensor and lightweight crispy sharp glass.
14-30mm is not that sharp. It's nice and compact and light .
@@richardgorski23 It is very sharp, such a great lens.
I have the 24-70 f4 and I cannot say i´m impressed. My Canon RF 24-105 f4 is sharper. Dont know if its the autofocus of Nikon that isnt really as reliable.
@@bjure8111 My experience is very duodenum
Different. My autofocus is very responsive and accurate with the 24-70mm f4 s with corner to corner sharpness.
@@mrsusan893 there may be some difference between copies, maybe I got unlucky this time, nevertheless it's sharp enough if I don't compare them side by side.
Deep pockets - Canon
Lens collector - Sony
Photo purist - Nikon
Jordan - Panasonic
Most accurate description I've seen lol
the new Nikon is actually decent for video now ;)
Pretty much spot on
@@CsendesMarkThey have added 4k60p otherwise it is exactly the same as before, no internal Log and limited to 8-bit internal
E.g. a very minor upgrade as the pricing and model naming would suggest.
I have almost all of those cameras except Panasonic. I gotta tell you, image quality and handling goes to Nikon Z7ii. Because of other youtubers, people think Nikon is not up to par with those other cameras, , but trust me, I have had all those cameras, R5, A7R4, Red Komodo, Blackmagic, A7S3 , A7iii you name it. And I think Nikon Z7ii and Z6ii is beyond amazing! Dont be fooled by some other people talking trash about nikon! Is really that good especially for photos.
I took the Panny S1R, it's a great camera for landscapes and is currently on sale for 2800 USD (converted from local currency) body only and 3700 USD for 24-105 kit. It was no brainer. I am incredibly satisfied with the results i have.
Same here I got the S1R too!
Do you use its 187mp high res'mode? Does it cope ok when there's any breeze,
Out of interest, how useful is the high-res mode in the real world?
@davothedon don't own the S1R but anything above 60mp is pushing the limits of what modern lenses can resolve, unless you are printing billboards it's not that useful
Did my own side-by-side test for a couple of months late last year when moving from Fuji to FF for professional work. Not with the R5, but incl. the SL2. I choose the Z7II (tested the Z7 though). I’m shooting mostly fashion and (make-up) portraits and in terms of image quality the Z7 was simply the best. The Sony may have a few more mp’s, but the beautiful color reproduction and tonality of the Z7 was key. You can’t test these cameras without knowing which lenses you need. The Nikkor Z glass might not be the most spectacular in terms of fast apertures, but all the lenses I used (incl. the 50 and the 85 f1.8) are fantastic for stills. The Z7 EVF might be only 3.69 mp, I much preferred it over the Sony. Next to an uncluttered view, it gives beautiful natural colors and a crisp and large view esp. for people wearing glasses (like me). Throw in the good ergonomics (you can really see the experience Nikon has) and for me the Z7II was the clear choice and I ordered it along with a few lenses. Now lets hope Nikon delivers a fast 35 and 85 similar to the quality of the GMs (I’m sure they will).
I enjoyed reading your comment.
Great and reassuring comment as a Pro Fuji XT4 user who is waiting for the Z7Ii to arrive any minute!
The Nikon Z7 II really is a solid all around camera. Best bang for the buck.
The Sony has been down to $3k us for over 6 months now. Just saying.
Solid trash, that’s true.
As is Z6 II
@@cactus22minus1Solid trash, true. Thumbs up for this :)
@@thomastuorto9929 at that price it's really a no-brainer to go for the Sony. High res cameras are bought mainly for stills, and the Sony blows the competition out of the water.
Just upgraded from my Sony A7 II to a Sony A7R IV. Totally love it! I love the Sony system because of the lenses they offer. Especially the Zeiss Batis lenses and the newer Sony GM primes offer a great balance between image quality and size.
15 minutes packed with unbiased and excellent comparison points including real-life examples which is a lot of work. Great job Chris and Jordan. You deserve many more subscribers than what you have today.
I go with Nikon Z7 II and I love it. 45 Megpixel is absolut Maximum for me. More than 60 MP no thanks....
Nikon is for me the best compromise over all.
Downsample anything greater than 45mp and you get an even sharper image.
If I need to downsample the file I don‘t need it. In my opinion the pics of the Z7II are big, sharp and detaiiled enough. For professional Users
the resolution might be important. I‘m Amateur...
@@lkjslkdjfglkjsldkfjl higher pixel count will not play nice with high iso noise.
@@silvere36 You're correct from what I have observed. ACR makes it worse since Nikon and Adobe don't work/talk together. It just means a little more post processing. Or when it matters use NX2 to convert to DNG heading to Lightroom. More than half the time I shoot JPG. Nikon's expeed6 has a great JPG engine. Noise reduction is still a tad too strong/soft on the Z7/Z7II.
Next time I would love to see lens selection included as it is maybe the most important factor when comparing cameras from different brands. The Nikon and Canon adapters also make this a very interesting topic.
Nikon lenses all the way! Best bang for the buck. Bodies are always being released...not too worried about that right now. Nikon will catch up quickly with the autofocus and all that ruckus. It’s already good enough for most people....Their glass is where the investment is at!
I love that every major manufacturer has a great camera this years, so it mostly comes down to which system you are already using.
Prices of lenses also play role in choosing the camera.
RIGHT
Yes I was going to say value would be a better proposition.... price of the bodies with a midrange zoom and 35mm prime would have been better IMO
Not just price, but lens availability, roadmap, and particular qualities. You’re not buying a camera, you’re buying a system.
But Chris and Jordan know that very well, it’s just a much much harder/longer video to make, we’d probably be here for an hour watching that video 😵
Quality of lenses should also play a role which would swing back to Canon
Right, which really is a win for Sony (currently). The price to quality ratio is generally solid and the amount of third party options is massive. It won't necessarily be that way forever, but I think that's where it stands now.
Choose Nikon and you will avoid all problems no matter where, it just works.
My reason would be Nikon because I have old Nikon AI lenses for my Nikon F3
Despite If you want to shoot birds
@@airb1976 Ok I never shoot birds, but I believe you when you say that (and it is not about lack of knowledge).
@@airb1976 no one ever shot birds with mirror less cameras before?
High resolution clearly the Nikon Z7, ZII has the performance edge to edge performance. Rear screen the Nikon Z is much better than those UA-camr inspired flip out things.
@@richrollin4867 Is it the Panasonic that has the flip out portrait screen ?
Nikon's best asset not even considered: the forward looking Z-mount, and the splendid glass. Throw in best value price wise, superb image quality, and I found the winner. Nikon! 📷😎👌
I don't know where this narrative comes from. Sony has third party support, Canon has the most innovative native lenses. Nikon is mostly offering slow, overpriced primes and with a smaller selection than the competition.
@@youknowwho9247 slow and overpriced? Do you use these lens or what? They are amazing, and you’d understand that if you used them.
@@youknowwho9247 The "narrative" comes from using the Nikon Z system. Nikon now has the Holy Trinity, and the 50/1.2S is superb and fast. The 1.8 primes more than hold their own by being in their own class. No one else comes close.
Either you get it or you don't. The Z mount is Nikon's most important feature, and in a review like this, it's not even mentioned.
Yup, their lenses are already better than competition. All their z series lenses completely lack both LOCA and lateral CA
@@ych8312 Yes, not to mention sharpness edge to edge.
As a stills shooter, the 3 things that matter to me are image quality, auto focus and battery life. As noted in this review, my a7rIV is good at all these (although I hope Sony will add an update to match Canon's automatic animal eye focusing). I don't see any big deal about ergonomics on my a7rIV, i just added my desired functions to my favourites menu and rarely need to navigate the menus. Very happy with my Sony but I'm sure all these cameras would be fine. Manufacturers will keep leapfrogging each other making new and better bodies and you can't keep changing systems. Make a choice and just enjoy using it.
The battery on my Nikon is way under rated. I just shoot an elopement and got 1400 shoots and still had 25 percent left.
i shot 700+ raw with 25% battery remaining on Z6ii, EVF and LCD Mixed
Same. This always confused me. I get 1,500+ on my Z6 and Z6ii.
@@dylanjames2213 i think they have too high expectations with all camera, kind of unrealistic.. eye af, animal tracking.. may be nikon is a step behind than sony, but its just there second generation and sony had years of RnD witj time..
@@everydayfitness6605 I'd disagree as these are getting to the upper echelon of pro-sumer cameras so you have to begin nitpicking on all points. I love Nikon but you're also failing to realise that all the other companies have had time to reverse-engineer Sony's template of success and softwares, while Sony had to do most things from scratch. It would more surprising for brands like Canon and Nikon to not reduce the gap between them and Sony.
This is the same for all cameras though. The CIPA ratings are ridiculous and vastly underrate real world usage. I bought a Canon M6 Mk II for street photography and it's rated at about 320 shots, 250 with the EVF. I consistently get closer to 1600 shots and my record shooting birds in flight was 2106 shots. This is on a 1040mAh battery!
So all the cameras tend to get much better battery life than the CIPA ratings.
Wired conclusion on Image quality, Lumix last. It’s one highest ranking sensors by Dxo and other quality tests with a nice DR of 14. Compared to the competition its always1 1 Stop ahead up to 25600. Nikon and Lumix swap or are even across iso range. Worth knowledgeably is that all cameras lose Several DR stops as you increase iso. After 12800 on most cameras you are hovering around 10 in DR or lower.
For the price of the body alone, the Z7II is a no brainer. Granted, the AF may be a tad behind the EOS R5 but it's the Nikon S line lenses that makes all the difference here. Combine that with either Z6II or Z7II, it is to me....the best compromise overall.
It stands to reason if you are a Nikon guy go for the Nikon, if you are invested in Sony go for the Sony. Reviews bring views on UA-cam and I enjoy them, but just about any high resolution model from the major manufacturers are quite capable and the differences are splitting hairs. I will say the AF system on the R5 is pretty slick if you are into wildlife photography.
How is that a reasonable assessment? Nikon's mirrorless lens line-up is by far the worst of the big three. Sony has third party support, Canon offers great first party options. Nikon has a bunch of overpriced f/1.8 primes - and the worst 50 f/1.2 and worst 70-200.
@@youknowwho9247 "worst 50mm 1.2 and worst 70-200 2.8" Really? Those lenses are nothing short but EXCEPCIONAL, the only 70-200 that is on par with the Nikon y the Panasonic 70-200 f2.8.
These modern camera bodies are all awesome devices that take terrific images and videos. It takes quite a lot of practice as a photographer to outgrow these devices and I believe once you come to the point, you'll realize that the camera is actually not that important.
I would put the S1R as first place for video cause of the overheating issues with the R5.
Nikon Z7 II MSRP is 2999, not 3249 as mentioned in video.
My conclusion : i even cannot afford one of that list
And that's not even considering the lenses!
Go out and buy a 5Dm3 or something.
Still fantastic cameras for still photography (less so for video) and can be had at great prices nowadays.
@@vikmanphotography7984 bro i even cannot afford a6100 LOL
@@dwisetyoaji5007 Then maybe stop torturing yourself with camera review videos until you can afford something. Practice with your phone in the interim.
@@dwisetyoaji5007 used A7II for around $500 and some vintage primes and you'd be set.
"Gold and teal"..."NO!" I love you, guys. Never change!
b-b-but that's cinematic!
Awww.. now be a good boy and give them a BLJ😆
Jokes that only people of Asian descent can make for $200, heh.
@@AshleyPaul for *20$
My head would say the Sony but my heart would say the Nikon.
Listen to your heart :-)
some times we gotta ignore what heart says .. LOL
Nikon still a little behind the competition. Particularly with lightweight lenses.
Both are deceiving you ... :-)
@@steventhomas231 Nikon Z lenses are above competition. And for portrait photography Nikon Z AF is more than enough. For sports you'll need Sony A9 either way.
I just got a Z6 II! Upgraded from D7200. And I subscribed (a few days ago!).
What are you shooting? I’m hesitant to go mirrorless as I’m shooting birds/wildlife... D7500 200-500 f/5.6
@@SolamenteVees Landscapes, sometimes casually my friends and my cat. I feel like having the EVF is great, I can zoom in to 100% using the viewfinder and check focus and also see the exposure I'm going to get, or if I disable exposure preview I can get a little better autofocusing performance. Many reviewers haven't mentioned that, but if you disable the exposure preview it gives a boost to af acquisition. Then of course you need to revert back to DSLR style of checking exposure, as you can't use the live histogram in the viewfinder in that mode either.
@@SolamenteVees Here's a sample photo taken at ISO 22800 with Lightroom noise luminance reduction at 30: nikosite.net/i/_NIH4735.jpg
This is without reduction: nikosite.net/i/_NIH4735_no_noisereduction.jpg
My old D7200 would look absolutely trash at that ISO :D
@@Noksus Thank! Eventually I will be forced to go mirrorless. Appreciate the input.
Hi there maybe you don’t see often good sales on the S1R but let me tell you that in France we often have real great price operation on it. Once it was sold with the 24-105 for 4400€ and you had the 50mm S Pro for 1€. Last one was 2500€ including the 24-105... real good operation.
And one point you forget to mention is that the S1R is an L mount Alliance camera which means you can mount extraordinary Leica SL lenses... this you can forget with whatever the 3 other brands you compare the S1R with... and this kills the game ! Don’t you think?
I really look forward to every one of your vids. Great unbiased views, the right touch of humour and perfect editing all around.
I think z7II is sub 3k
I bought a Nikon z5 after shooting 5 years with Sony. I still have the Sony kits for jobs, but I find the Nikon much more enjoyable as a everyday carry camera or travel camera. Better colors from raw files straight from Lightroom, better image stabilization, more touches like the red blinking “no card” alert, much more visible than Sony. And great kit lenses, better quality and price than Sony budget kit lenses. There are some usability points that transcend the best autofocus and such.
Got the A7RIV as my stills shooter and absolutely love it. For that auto focus, battery life and resolution. Glad its still standing strong 😤👌
6:06 "And with a paid firmware upspnsjdnkbkdnknf this can do pro res raw " LOL
I Love that he kept that in! :-)
Lol “background is too distracting”
Puts a title card over the distracting part 😂
In IQ i don't get how the Panasonic is at the bottom, in the color comparison to the Canon it wasn't as vivid but in the recovery it didn't tint the shadows like the R5, in low-light it was superior to the Sony and didn't have as much color noise as the Canon/Nikon. In-body HR mode also sets it on-par with Sony's UHR mode; I don't get it but all of them are great anyways.
Unless you are shooting in non-subzero climates like Canada.
It would be interesting to compare the gfx cameras to these and see how big the differences are, since they are getting more affordable and in a small body, as you would find in full frame.
The problem with the GFX100 /100S is that literally only one lens (the 110mm) can resolve to match the sensor. All the other lenses are better on the 50MP GFX cameras.
I would love to see a comparison between something like the Sony and an old but now similar priced medium format from Fuji - the GFX50 vs any of the options in this video would be super interesting I think
I'd go for the Fuji any day.
I’ve used the GFX50S for a while in our studio. Mostly fashion and make-up portraits. After a few months I returned to one of our full-frame systems (the A7RIV and now waiting for my Z7II). While the GFX50 has a very good image quality that is comparable to the A7RIV, it is a very different camera. Compared to these newest full-frame mirrorless cameras, it is quite big, heavy (gripped 5D) and a bit clumsy. The AF is very slow esp. in low light and eye-AF is useless. With a moving subject it often lags behind and focuses on eyelashes or cheekbones instead of pupils. I used it with the 32-64 and the 110 lenses, which are both excellent. The GFX works best in a studio or at location on a tripod and with static setups like portraits, product photos or landscape. In that sense it’s very similar to our Hasselblad H6. As said, in image quality the GFX50 can keep up with the A7RIV, but it is not visibly better unless you print man-sized high. For that you need the GFX100. However for general purpose a full-frame mirrorless camera is definitely more flexible and easier to work with. We now use the GFX50 with an 120 macro lens for our product photography (perfume bottles, lipsticks et cetera). For that it’s perfect...
got the S1R with 24-105 F4, 85mm F1.8 and batterygrip for 2500$ couldn't say no
You lucky I paid 3600€ whithout grip or 85 :(
panasonic s1r takes s1r good pictures like z 7ii. do you think that. I would like to buy it but i think z7ii is better
Great review. After 15 years of using Canon DSLRs I decided to drop the Mark IV and buy a Sony RIV, I am still amazed at the battery life and the image quality, even using the Canon lenses on it. At this point, I prefer to invest in some G lenses instead to go back to Canon and buy RF lenses. Glad to have Sony and Canon making nice stuff for the photographers but I feel Canon is a step behind since 2017...
Well, you can't go wrong with either option. But if you want to save some money. Go back to R6/R5 with the EF-RF adapter, all your EF lens will be very capable.
If you like SONY then these two fanboys are the ones to watch. Their Sony bias is laughable and is causing them to lose credibility.
What I find funny is when people talk about image quality of newer cameras. I bet if you put images side by side printed out I bet you could not really tell a difference. Out 10 photos you may get 4 right.
Wish you tubers didn't give flippy screens an auto-win over tilt screens. The apps work better for that anyway. Wish the Sony a99 screen would come back into fashion so everyone could be happy.
Flippy screens satisfy UA-camrs narcissistic tendencies. They forget that not many photographers or even videographers want to photograph themselves.
That’s why I have a flippy screen camera and a tilt screen. Two different styles completely.
But the end Game Nikon has the Z Mount now bring me those Best of Breed S Lenses
#1 battery - Sony
#1 AF - Sony
#1 Image Quality - Sony
But still Sony has final result #2 because of video (objective) and ergonomics (more subjective) measures.
Personally I believe that Canon R5 is a great camera but in terms of hi-res cameras Sony 7R iv is the winner...
Dang, for Black friday in France, the S1R was at 2499€ with 24-105 f4 + 85mm f1.8
That was an incredible deal, but they got bought so quickly ..
Samys camera store online has had an s1R with 24-105 open box for 2500 for the longest time .
I bougth mine in late 2019 whith the 24-105 for 3700€ and that was even with 900€ cash back ufff 2500€ that hurts to hear
@@samuelb.107 Oh i forgot, it was also with the battery Grip.
When I saw that deal it almost felt like they stopped the production of S1R so resellers tried to empty their stock, but it's still in stock today. So dunno..
How is your S1R ? great camera ? any regrets ?
@@BaptisteLandrodie I mostly do zoo animal photography and landscape photography for that I think it was the right choice for me. I came from an G9 and did not want tho go to sony because of the menu and at that time nikon had no long lens and still don't have (I would have bought old f lenses) and die R5 wasn't out so I went with panasonic and I think it pays of what it was more experience in the first place I can save with buying sigma glass. My mail lens is the 100-400 sigma and I love that combo it is heavy but I see it as an workout 🙂 . I'm planing on getting a fast wide Engel Prime for landscapes and milkiway. Over all I think it is a good camara great operation and handling and the autofocus could be better but is good enough for me. I'm not sure if I would buy it again today maybe would take the a7 4 when its out or the R5 or an S1r a bit lighter with phase af
85mm Hasntt even been released yet.
Nikon - never the best but never the worst = a great all around camera! Love my Z6, it's just a fun camera to use, and Nikon have done a great job with the Z system in general.
Canon guy here. Would love the R5 but I doubt I would ever use the 8K. Sure could use a $3000 R5.
The r5 is amazing get it
I would of bought a cheaper version of the R5 without 8K if available, but the 5Dm4 was $3500 when it was new in 2018 without IBIS, the advanced auto focus system and the articulated screen. All of which were my main reasons for upgrading. The 45mp is a bit overkill, but the 20 in the R6 was to much of a downgrade.
You missed one BIG category: LENSES. The Nikon "S" line of lenses are the best of the bunch, and they've only just started.
And how did you come to that conclusion? What testing did you do to make such a ridiculous claim? It’s ok to be a fanboy but please don’t be delusional.
@@CapsuleCOLIDER I didn't come to that conclusion; the experts who conducted the objective tests did.
It's okay to be ignorant, just don't open your mouth and reveal your ignorance.
@@mugdays what experts????? You clearly said they missed a big category which was lenses. So who are the experts who say that Nikon lenses are better than Canon and Sony glass???? Please help with my obvious ignorance.
@@mugdays I'd love to have a citation of those expert opinions. As far as I can see, the consensus among all reputable sources is that Nikon is behind Canon and Sony in terms of their lens line-up. Both of them have more glass to choose from, Canon's is now innovative and Sony's is now economical thanks to third party support. S line glass on the other hand is mostly known for its lack of availability...
@Shah Mohammad Sharafat when you tell the truth your a fanboy??? Lol ok guy
Purchased today the S1R amen 😇
You should consider lens selection in these. Canon is nice because it has a fairly reliable adapter so you have access to all that legacy glass, but also Sony is more open to playing nice with third party manufacturers, so you can get some nice, new, designed for mirrorless Sigma glass that works amazing on your Sony and is really affordable. That's why I ultimately went with Sony when I traded in my Nikon DSLRs (though I also went with a used a7R iii for like $1800, and still got over 40 megapixels).
Nikon image quality is the best
Z7 II MSRP is $2999 isn't it? Anyway nicely done.
Great engaging content as usual, 0% fluff, 10% humor, 90% pure gold. This video makes me look forward to the A7RV even more! Oh, and I have a secret for you guys to get 1M subscribers like some of the other bloggers out there - put up cheesy shots of yourself and controversial video titles that all end with a question mark... sad but true.
Great comparison guys. I have the Z7ii with the new firmware 1.21 since April and curious how the AF performance today would compare to the version you tested. Nikon supposedly improving it again with a new version in September? Loving the couple Z lenses I have - with the exception of the 2.8 trinity, so far all of them are very reasonably priced with excellent quality.
An important part is missing : lenses quality and the price of them...
Being able to have third party lenses reduces the cost drastically, long term.
Panasonic seems to have the best tilting LCD screen for landscape photography, I hope Nikon will implement something like this in the next Z camera.
Nikon will probably be out of business by then.
Finally! A balanced, unbiased review by professionals (Chris and Jordan) who when evaluating cameras, don't make "ignoring UA-cam reviewers" an evaluative factor.
Unbiased? What review did you watch?
@@richardgorski23 As it says right in my comment, Chris and Jordan's. Tony and Chelsea's review was biased drivel.
The A7R3 is a good deal (at least it was when I got it on sale including a free Z-battery and memory card) in my opinion.
I have been using the a7R3 for two or three years. I still don’t think the a7r4 is offering enough to upgrade. The a7r5 or whatever comes next, perhaps
@@WilliamLesourd same here my man. Brought the a7r3 when it released and see no point getting the r4. Especially considering the better noise and buffer speed on the r3
Yeah Nikon!!!
the winner on video dep is a camera that overheats on daily basis. yeah !
Yep, That Canon should have been recalled! DPReview are losing credibility here. The Northrups are still pushing the R5 too.. again, credibility issues and I’m wondering just how impartial this really lot are.
@@Spark010 , for canon to win they had to be biased against panasonic.
It is so bad many have returned. It overhears in photo mode also.
Even if you never use the 8k, the canon still has the best video.
Oh wait, there is no point in arguing, you probably own a Sony a7III and think its the best thing ever lmao
Interesting that DXOMark rates the S1R at par with the Z7II and the A7RIV , and above the R5 in terms of sensor image quality.
Sad day Pentax isn't even in this battle anymore :(
The Pentax K1Mlii is an amazing camera, just too niche for most
Had a buddy just sell his old Pentax Kit. Barely got enough to get into Sony..
That's because DPReview is only about mirrorless, mirrorless, mirrorless these days. The K-1 II is still an excellent choice for someone who doesn't need video and the very best AF-C performance. Certain users will be 100% happy with a K-1 II and will have to spend a LOT less money.
@@coolcat23 I'm not a Mirrorless person.. although i have 2 Leica's which are both Mirrorless I find myself shooting my D850 more.
@@steveacclaro740 The Pentax K1 mark one is also excellent, I have many cameras of different brands but last time I went into a blizzard to do some photos, my choice was clear Pentax it's the most solid camera and it has by far the best weather-sealing also I can hold it the whole day in my hand very comfortable with other bodies my hands start to hurt with some even after a few minutes, the K-1 is a real photographic tool love it!
An Austrian UA-cam channel compared the Af Canon R5 and the Nikon Z6ii. They came to the conclusion that the display in the Nikon's viewfinder, which does not track the eyes / head as precisely as the Canon, but the pure hit rate in the finished image was almost the same as that of Canon. Very small advantage with Canon. The Animal Af is much better with Canon, but the image quality and ISO is better with the Nikon.
All they care about is SONY cant you tell.
SL2 wins the IQ IMO.. not just cuz I have it :D but Leica glasses are definitely superior to the others.. in fact Panasonic S Pro lenses are very comparable to Leica quality... I got the 28-70 f2 canon as well and the 24-90 Leica images are definitely more appealing although more background blur is achieved with the canon 28-70.. Needless to say Leica lenses are the sharpest with Panasonic S pro nearly as good! Sony colors do need some post-processing and they are not perfect straight out of the camera. The SL2 AF isn't the best but the IQ certainly is..
Couldn’t agree more.
I think it was overlooked that the a7rIV has no limit in the video mode. I think it is cool that they got rid of that limit :)
S1R is quite often priced at 3200 usd with 24-105 lens...
I have an S1R and I get over 1000 pics on one charge using a combo of back panel and evf
Nikon 3rd place for ergonomics come on Chris come on...ugh!!!😆😃😂
Agreed. Some of these are way off. Noooo one likes Sony's ergonomics...
Ergonomics is heavily influenced by personal taste. I find the ergonomics of most mirrorless cameras awful, much prefer my D850. The Z bodies feel quite bad to me, the Panasonics in particular but also the Canons feel much nicer.
My wife on the other hand would disagree. She prefers a smaller camera, so she might choose the Nikon.
What they're based their decision on is the objective differences that exist beyond personal taste. The Nikon does lack in some of the areas where the cameras which placed higher shine.
My daughter begged me for a Sony. We took it back the very next day...
@@youknowwho9247 I have the D850, Z6, D7500, and a D4
My D850 stays in my hands...
@@LMoProVisualComm It's a fantastic camera, I agree.
I will take the Nikon Z7ll ,It is much better than people say on UA-cam
The R5 is a seasonal camera. Use it in winter to keep your hands warm.
I think you guys could have included the Sony A7R3. It is a current new model and can be got for $2000-ish, and it was the first mirrorless camera to ‘have it all’: high resolution, full frame, high burst speed, and fast accurate AF. For the person who cares about price and can’t look at $10K when kitted out with lenses, this is the one to get, especially if excellent performance is enough, instead of the very latest bleeding-edge numbers game that will only keep you at the head of the pack for a year or two. Gosh, for the price of an A7R4 body alone you can kit the A7R3 with excellent, compact, light, recent-model Samyang autofocus prime lenses 18mm/2.8, 35mm/1.8, 50mm/1.4 and 75mm/1.8. For the price of an R5 body alone, kit your A7R3 with a Sigma 24-70/2.8 Art, a Tamron 70-300mm, and your choice of one of the Samyang primes I mentioned. Full frame high res kits ready to go for $4k.
I love how you guys are still so happy with such whiny comments on your website. Great review. Also, Vikman Photography is right, "lens variety or quality" should be a category.
was a canon shooter switched to sony love it.... but i miss that canon glass and with the R5 i switched back the camera does feel the best in my hand...
At the end of the day the only important thing is: Autofocus so regardless of how much tilting screen you have or Evf that can see germs it boils down to autofocus and the confidence that you nailed every job. Would you rather be second in F-1 Ferrari that is confi or first in Merc that is hot and hard on its suspension? 1st or 2nd ?
Agreed - and how easy it is to use. Im a Nikon hybrid shooter - I want to move to a Z but the bad reviews put me off.
@@markshirley01 I think I asked that before? Did you give them a try, yet? They are good, capable cameras and I barely encounter situations where they give me headaches. And their video features are vastly superior to Nikon‘s DSLRs
@@markshirley01 I am a Nikon Z6II shooter and I can tell you that the autofocus is fine. You are watching reviews and succumbing to hype. I use a D850 and other Nikon cameras also and the Z6II is fine. Knowing your subject and anticipation will get way more keepers than any camera. Do your own review because your needs aren’t the same as someone else’s. You are splitting hairs with any of these in all categories including ergonomics. I handled the Sony and hated it but that just makes it bad for me. Others have no problem with them. Do your own review on the camera or cameras you are interested in. If you wait on the perfect camera, you will go cameraless. If you go by someone else’s views of said camera, you are cheating yourself
@@markshirley01 Sony's is defs the best but the Nikon autofocus receives an unfair amount of criticism. I have a Z6 and even that has stellar autofocus, particularly in video mode. The Z7II should be better. I honestly believe it's just as good if not better than the dual-pixel garbage on the R5 (from what I've seen)
happy for Nikon. They are back.
I am really sold on the Canon R5. I have seen a lot of Yotube video's comparing other cameras to the Canon R5. I like the 4K 120fps, the Clog 3 and auto eye tracking for my football games. This is will be my second camera for my Canon 5D Mk IV along with the rest of my "L" series lenses.
Nikon Z7ll is my choice
Lets go! I've been waiting for this video to find the best camera to scan my film negatives!
I wish build quality was considered. Currently on A7R2 and the shutter kept freezing in Rockies winter. Trying to decide if I should switch.
Nice video, but do you really check the cameras well before you do reviews?
My nikon z6ii did a 750 shoots and it still had 4/5 on the battery lines.
And how come the canon is number 1 on the video? It overheats after 25 min! This is a boiling hot camera just after 15 min of recording. For profetionals it is not usable..
My heart is set on the Lumix S1R but I'm going to need longer telephotos from the L-Mount camp. Otherwise imma have to go over to Canon.
Agree. I'm confused as to why they would go for their own mount, but end up with Nikon's lineup, but worse.
Sigma 100-400 is nice, tho!
@@1fareast14 For me the L-Mount lens linaup is definitely better then nikon if you count only the new leses but still not great. Even the new Canon lineup isent that much better.
I have an S1R und i can get evey lese I need I love my 100-400 and i´m still wating for the sigma 70-200 because panasonic lenses are just too expensiv.
@@samuelb.107 you can use many Canon SLR lenses on S1R with Sigma MC-21 adapter. AF and OIS work with this combo.
@@dturina2583 I know but I'm not so into adapting for a wide-angle or so ok but not for a tele and as far as I know the afc is not working and for a tele that's not working for me
S2R is coming out soon. just a little protip. :)
Great timing for this video as I sold my Z6II in search of higher resolution once again.
I’ll stick with my Contax 137MA and Zeiss Planar 50mm. Love the reviews and channel though 👍🇨🇦
Great video. I personally don't dislike Sony ergonomics like everyone else, but I never liked bulky DSLRs like the Canon 5d line or Nikon's D8xx cameras. That feels like the most subjective measurement in the comparison, but it feels like the folks who thrived on DSLRs don't like the difference. I'd be interested if folks that don't have that legacy preconception of camera "feel" would agree or not. Not sure if that's fodder for a future video or not.
I liked you video, but I still went with the Sony a7riv . My only regret are those huge files.
"...mother earth, who's probably more disappointed right now than that mural suggests." lol
Sony Cripple Blade is still putting 2008 LCD tech on their cameras, even the A1.
I would disagree with the ergonomics conclusion. The Canon R5 AF button is too small and hard to find. I'd put it in fourth place. The flip screen makes using l-brackets difficult. I thought the Sony was a little better than the Nikon. Otherwise, an entertaining review.
What are you taking about? I've used Sony A7RIV since a release date and switched to Canon rf and the autofocus is just better. Faster, more coverage of the frame and more intuitive...
Only thing missed I think is the Sony A7RIV has the pixel shift feature. 240 megapixel product shots yah! :p I used it a few times. It's mind blowing if you have the lenses for it. Also I had the A7RIV since 2 Septembers ago! :)
Why cant they do it in camera like Panasonic. A hassle to do post.
how many mega pixel is enough?
Love my Sony A7 RIV. Canon would be my second choice. But every one of these are such great cameras
Excellent review, thanks. A review the current lenses/system by category for each company will definitively complete the review.
That's interesting, it seems if you shoot nature/ sports, alll except Nikon give you more, however for landscape the Nikon is the winner. I hope the Z7 goes down in price now with the new releases.
Fast moving human subjects: Sony.
Wildlife or hybrid stills and video: Canon.
Stationary subjects: Nikon.
Panasonic are great for manual focus video, but their video autofocus is worse than everybody else.
How is Nikon the winner for landscapes? The Sony offers better image quality, while the Canon offers a more complete lens line-up and better handling. Please explain.
@@youknowwho9247 well let's start by saying every camera is amazing, and there's no need to "switch" if you already have glass.
But as to landscape shots, you don't need 12fps, you don't need eyeaf. Lens lineup doesn't matter because you don't shoot 1.8.
But with the FTZ adapter that's not a valid point to say Nikon is limited lol
So off the bat Nikon has the best color science, can't argue that much, and dynamic range Nikon also takes the lead on that. It's not like the Nikon get an A+ and Canon is a C-, they are all great. But Nikons is pretty amazing.
@@coltoncyr2283 I disagree, simply because there's no evidence to support your assertions.
First of all, the FTZ adapter is not a remedy for the lack of native lenses. Modern, mirrorless glass is universally regarded to be significantly sharper than older DSLR lenses. I say that as a D850 shooter with tons of F-mount glass. The mirrorless architecture also allows for more compact lens designs at no loss of optical quality, which a landscape shooter who'll typically hike with their gear will certainly benefit from.
Colour science is really a buzz word with no meaning. First of all, what pleasing colours are is highly subjective. There are people in support of any one manufacturer. Personally, I find Canon images to look best straight out of camera, but again, that's highly subjective. What more important is the fact that if one shoots RAW, as virtually all landscape shooters will, any camera can be made to look like any other in post. It's not a laborious process either, I can make a Sony look like a Nikon on import with literally zero added work for myself during later processing.
Dynamic range on the other hand is a valuable asset. Let's start by first noticing that all of the cameras discussed are so close in that domain to be virtually undistinguishable. So making buying decisions based on that seems silly. Next, in whose favour are those tiny differences? Well, it depends on who we ask. Across different outlets you can actually find different answers. By no stretch of the imagination is it obvious that Nikon is ahead here. My personal go-to for such matters would be photons-to-photos, as they do rigorous science-like testing in very controlled conditions. There, the Nikon actually comes in last, behind Sony and Canon.
In conclusion - I really don't see how a landscape shooter is best served with the Nikon. Especially not given the fact that the Sony has more resolution and the Canon has a screen that allows for easier verticals.
I'd also argue that landscape shooting is not the domain where the advantages of mirrorless come into play particularly heavily. Personally the camera I'd recommend to anyone who does nothing but landscape is a used D800E.
Can we talk about how stupid the position of the power button on the Canon is? Not really a fan of the mode dial, either.
I wish R5 use the same old fashioned dials as R6.
That's quite subjective. Personally I like having access to everything with just my right hand.
@@youknowwho9247 Agreed. Pick up camera, flick switch with my right index finger and immediately move finger onto the shutter button, for the Sony and Nikon design. The Canon, you're moving your left hand from its natural position on the lens, to the back of the camera, and then to the lens again. The S1R's is a little weird, but at least it's on the right side and you shouldn't have to move your hand much to reach it.
Guessing you don’t own or use the camera. My camera largely stays in manual mode with auto iso. I only change mode to bulb mode once in a while. The power switch has never had any issue either.
@@ziginox I disagree with your assessment of the R5 in terms of ergonomics. It was perfectly operable with just my right hand when I tested it, except for the on/off switch, which I don't use during a shoot anyway. Have you held one?
From an objective standpoint, they are alle really good cameras. Go for the system you like and have fun with it.
From a subjective point though...I'll stick to les higher resolution cameras. The workflow is just much faster
I'm thinking differently... A higher resolution 30mp to shoot JPG with in-camera corrections (SOOC) provides the fastest workflow. Not to mention shooting crop mode for sports, birding, and online content. You get the best of both worlds with a little more resolution. EVF, WB, and metering has come that far where I have not needed to "save" that much in post for a long time. Even with my D500.
Canon seems to have it in better hybrid with video, but Nikon beats the rest in price to performance, especially with the Z lenses. The IQ and DR of the Z7 II is simply amazing.
The canon r5 is the most expensive and its lens are way more expensive.
Canon's color is tad over saturated for me and low light is still noisy. Sony is good but cant stand the ergo and the low res LCD. Never used Panasonics. Nikon to me has the best image quality and color character and love its Z mount S glass. Easy pick for me Nikon Z7II, already had Z6 and Z6II D850 and D5.
Lmao. Are you shooting the Canon in a underground tunnel. Noisy....pure rubbish.
I'm a Nikon guy. ALL cameras have customizable in-camera profiles, custom WB, RAW, and custom software profiles. I remove some red and saturate just about every Nikon image. I worked in print production for 10 years and used to be able to tell you which make captured an image and sometimes the lens. That is no longer the case. Heck, even smartphone images in my own collection have thrown me. ;)
Tbh in my personal experience any canon is disqualified from having the best ergonomics bc of the canon typical placement of the shutter button and dials. I find them quite uncomfortable despite the great grip.
That's how I feel about Sony. I was using my friends when we were out shooting and the grip is so small I felt like I was always going to drop it. Just very uncomfortable.