Best Full Frame Still Camera Ever Made - A Camera Comparison

[@vkris2361]

4:55 is the real dynamic range test, in my opinion. The Sony has almost a HDR look with the background and foreground having excellent detail vs canon which has lost most of the details in the background. Reducing exposure in canon will not fix this as Canon sensors still haven't caught up to the Sony level.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good observation. Thanks for sharing your comment!

[@ultrasportozonaazul1016]

Canon preserves BETTER in Shadows 🤷🏻🤷🏻

[@anthonysmith9864]

@@ultrasportozonaazul1016 is it cause it exposes more than the sony? All the pics are brighter in my opinion

[@rickvestuto]

Im glad you did this review
I had the A7R MIV and loved it but the file were huge
I switched to the R5 a week ago and love it
So glad I did
Regards, Rick

[@TheSlantedLens]

Great to hear! Hope you continue to love it!

[@Stefan1968ful]

I have both the R5 and the A7r4, mainly for Wildlife. For me the R5 is the clear winner, the autofocus is superior, especially the Animal Eye Autofocus. What I also like on the R5 is the build quality, it’s much better than the A7r4. Also the CFEXPRESS memory interface of the R5 smoked the SDCARD interface of the A7r4. R5 is for me simply the best.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good to hear all of those great points. Thanks for sharing!

[@reasonandthought1629]

Yes in virtually every area the R5 outperforms the A7RIV. It's not really close. The R5 is a next generation camera compared to the A7RIV. Now Sony will also leap into that generation with their next iteration but for now really there is no comparison.

[@Stefan1968ful]

@@reasonandthought1629 Yes, I am eager to see that, also eagerly wait on the Sony A9 III. We can be really happy, Canon brought competition into the camera market again. Best time for us as users!

[@wcsdiaries]

what about the sonys megapixels? Do you not think it's worth having almost 25% more pixels?

[@AstroPinoy]

I just read your reply, we agree on the same thing LOL

[@BrianIrwin]

I love a clever, deceptively simple test. Having the model walk behind a tree and then see how many frames to reacquire is brilliant, well played :)

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thank you very much! Glad you liked it!

[@gregshawphotography8828]

I’ll stick with Canon. I m invested in the RF glass, and the 90mp R5 with limited video will be coming out next year.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good to hear. A video upgrade will really help.

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

Really?

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

@@sonacphotos the new gms are just as good, if not better. I own both btw so theres no bias here

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

@@sonacphotos the gm lenses are very nice, you should rent some of the newer ones like the 35mm f1.4 or the 50 f1.2. I would say that the image quality is the same but the build of the sonys are much better than the canons. I prefer the canon bodies and the sony lenses so I own both. I cant decide haha

[@TerryManning]

I’m really surprised you didn’t mention the $99 adapter that precludes Canon lens owners from having to buy new glass to use with the R5

[@TheSlantedLens]

Absolutely! That is a great option! That is what I use with my EOS R.

[@Seitenwerk]

The Adapter ist actually free. It was part of the package for the RP and R, and for the R5 and R6 you can register to get it for free. On the other hand, Canon released a bunch of cheaper RF variants which are actually better then the more expensive EF glasses (which shows how good the RF glasses actually are). So there are more then enough options for RF, and with the adapter you get access to 20-30 years of glasses from Canon and other manufacturers. This will actually give you more options than any other manufacturer has to offer.

[@castielvargastv7931]

@@Seitenwerk no one wants to shoot with 30 year old glass. newer lenses are much much better . even the the latest old glass is not good enough compared to the new lenses.

[@smashexentertainment676]

@@castielvargastv7931 I sometimes shoot with like 50-60 year old glass 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@augustjoseph629]

Honestly, the reason I’m most likely going to get the Sony is because Sigma has their lenses available in the native E-mount. For those of you who don’t know, Sigma’s Art lenses are on par (sometimes exceeding) Canon’s L Series in sharpness - for about the third of the cost. While I do prefer the rendering and bokeh of Canon’s lenses, I always feel their price points are unjustifiably high considering there is a much more affordable variant.
With that said, I do prefer Canon’s body for multiple reasons. They’re just designed better with a superior user experience. Like the photo and video toggle which allows you to switch the format and use the mode wheel - on Sony, you have to change the video mode in the Settings menu. There are a lot of things like that, too. Don’t get me started on Sony’s buffer...
My question is, when using an adapter for the R5, are the images on par with these new lenses, or are they noticeably softer?

[@norseatheart1086]

Sony A7RIV clear winner for video? Is it opposites day?

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes for video, but not necessarily for stills. If you need both then stick with the Sony. If you need is for great stills then stick with the Canon.

[@norseatheart1086]

@@TheSlantedLens You are clearly wrong though. ”Canon totally blev it on the video” - a baseless claim nobody can take seriously. We all know the R5 gets hot. Besides that the R5 shoots absolutely stunning video.

[@reasonandthought1629]

The a7RIV has literally nothing over the R5. The R5 can do everything the A7RIV can do with video with zero limitations, because the A7RIV only gets up to 4K30 and 8 bit. The overheating limits are for the higher quality video modes that the A7RIV totally lacks, like 8K and 4K HQ, and even those have largely been solved with the latest software update.

[@loudandclearmedia]

@@reasonandthought1629 Not exactly. The A7R4's 4K video is oversampled from a 6K sensor readout in super 35 mode (it is a 61MP sensor, remember), and it will record that mode with no time limit until you either run out of card space or battery. Yes, it's 8bit, but it's REALLY sharp. As far as I know, all the oversampled modes on the R5 run into the heat issue and only the softer, non oversampled lower bitrate 4K is immune to meltdown. Horses for courses. There are times I would definitely want the flexibility of 10 bit, but in a controlled studio environment doing corporate interviews and such I'd pick the Sony 100% of the time.

[@bojangbg]

@Jay better than the 7sIII lol... Sorry brother but if you dont have both of them you can't really say that.
Used the R5... And after that period the Sony for one hour and it was an instant decision to sell Canon.

[@mywildlifestories3793]

You guys are awesome when it comes to comparing the gears one vs other.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks! Appreciate your positive feedback!

[@zollieuncle9647]

Gents, thanks for the unbiased comparision. Couple points though: AF speed and accuracy - you are not comparing the brands and bodies, but an fairly old Sony Zeiss and an at least one generation newer Canon lens AF design. If you had been really after AF comparision, you should have compared them with the same lens available for both bodies. Color rendition - again, quite lens specific to Zeiss, as opposed to the body. Image sharpness - come on gents, this was rather unfair, considering that a 61MP sensor will always be less forgiving for focusing mistakes (esp. of operator mistakes) than a 45MP one. Should you really want to compair that, please do a proper test that takes operator errors out of the equation. I would be quite astonished if the good old Zeiss lens could not at least match the Canon sharpness, micro contrast, etc. Buffering fenomena - indeed I managed to force Sony into a buffer overload, however it has never been a problem for my typical use case. ISO performance - indeed I would not use the Sony much beyond 6400 as it gets too noisy for my taste, similarly to Canon`s 6400+ ISO performance even if Canon is somewhat better.
So overall, it is interesting to watch such an influencer video and learn your gentle style of shifting perceptions.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Lots of good points. Thanks for sharing!

[@PatrickRosenbalm]

Hey guys, you might to look at those specs a little closer at 00:33. That Sony doesn't shoot 8k. ;-)

[@Wildlife__shorts]

Yup, and Cannon got 8k.
This is what happens when you get the reviews from a sold out to sony reviewer. Also Canon has 10 bit internal recording while Sony doesn’t have internal 10bit recording.
Canon definitely have an edge over Sony in almost all categories.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yep, those specs got flipped by our editor. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@PatrickRosenbalm]

@@Wildlife__shorts I don't think JP has sold out to Sony. I've seen him use several brands since I been watching his videos the past few years.
I say that as a long time Canon shooter and EOS R owner.
I know what you mean though. There's some on her that wear their favorite brand like a medal of honor and some like a chip on their shoulder.
But yeah, Canon wins!! :-)

[@wellwhatthen10101]

@@PatrickRosenbalm JP might not have sold out to Sony. But i am sure his Editor has by the sound of it.

[@PatrickRosenbalm]

@@wellwhatthen10101 You could be right. DPReview sure went all Sony love several years ago. I quit going to that site because of it. An article could be about Nikon or Pentax or an other brand and some commenter(s) would start up a Sony versus Canon fight and Sony would always win. The site's operators not only allowed it they seem to promote it. Amazon owns the site BTW. It's all about clicks and conflict seems to create clicks and sells in the current tribal society. I shoot Canon but I don't care what anyone else shoots. All that matters is that their system delivers what they want. Even if it's bragging rights I guess. Like Music, I'm in it for Art's Sake. ;-)

[@loudandclearmedia]

As you said, they are close enough it really makes no difference. Buy whichever you already have glass for. If you don't already have glass and the limited RF selection won't be a problem for you, flip a coin. It's worthwhile to mention that as a working photographer I'd happily shoot either one of these cameras (I actually do shoot an A7R4), and to clients it will make zero difference.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good point! Thanks for sharing your viewpoint!

[@ForrestWest]

One thing about a case compared to a backpack. I've heard of someone having their camera case and thousands of dollars worth of gear stolen while they were shooting. If it's a backpack it's less likely to be sitting on the ground. I usually leave mine locked in my vehicle anyway. Thanks for the video and the information guys!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching!

[@barrymullinax6272]

To me the Canon had better shots. Now that I've said that I have a gofund me account so I can buy one

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good luck with that. Thanks for sharing.

[@nightcoder5k]

0:33 You got the specs swapped, but we all know that. :)

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yeah, thanks. We posted a card at the top corner of the video stating that correct specs.

[@mathieuclement8011]

@Gus Erland YMMV but I prefer the way Canon handles colors out-of-the-box, without having to mess with hues and tones. Your statement in regards to "sharpness comes from resolution" just isn't true. A soft image on the Sony is just going to show more blurry pixels.

[@bmwcar335]

Can you please do the Nikon z7ii comparison with these two when it's available. I like to see the dynamic range before I buy.

[@TheSlantedLens]

We have it on our list. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@outlivecreative]

Great comparison. It would be interesting to see this same test but with the Sony G Master lenses instead.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Great suggestion. Thanks for watching!

[@user-zu5pl5zd9w]

Они его не сделают, им это видимо не выгодно, они как будто специально сделали тест с самым плохим объективом в линейке FE...

[@Outex]

Excellent, thorough review JP, Kenneth. Thank you. I'll share with our audience as well. Hope to see you soon JP. Best.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks! We appreciate your support!

[@davidanderson8381]

The RF 50mm looks a vast improvement on the very average and very overpriced EF version. It's also clearly sharper than the Zeiss you're using on the Sony. Thanks for the video.

[@TheSlantedLens]

You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@haakonvt]

My thoughts exactly; the real winner here was the RF 50 mm 😅

[@ssg8745]

Shouldn't you have put GM lens on sony when comparing with canon with L lens?

[@TheSlantedLens]

Sony doesn't make a very good 50mm. A new one is on the way.

[@rachel7550]

I have the a7r4, lovee it for landscape but for portrait and low light photography I really want the r5.. I tried the a7siii to have that low light ability and am selling it lol used the detail of the higher mps. I wish the canon lenses weren’t so crazy expensive!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yeah, their lenses are pretty pricey!

[@dtibor5903]

The Canon has 1053 AF postions. All of the pixels on the sensor can do phase detect. On the Sony there are lines with phase detect pixels that are eliminated from the raw data and filled up by interpolation.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Interesting to know. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@stephaneg]

It's a no brainer. Welcome back Canon!!!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes. It is great for still images!

[@arfiesquad5576]

wondering how much of the eye AF results were mainly on the fact that this test wasn't done on a sony native lens? heard great things about the new 50mm f/1.2 and how it would perform in this test against the canon

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yeah, we have heard it is a great lens as well!

[@arfiesquad5576]

@@TheSlantedLens Thank you on the reply. Will there be a follow up now that there's comparable glass? Either way thanks for the great content 🙏

[@epv221]

This was really helpful and concrete in its examples.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching!

[@PatrickRosenbalm]

A very well done video. I enjoyed it! Keep up the good work!!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thank you very much! You are my hero. May the you be blessed with good light!

[@siegfriednoet]

Really, most of the information on the screen is wrong

[@maheshs1315]

I loved the simple straightforward comparison. But when you tried comparing image quality, there was huge flaw in my opinion. The RF 50mm is a new glass and its quality is good and it was made for the R5. The Sony equivalent was not there when you made this video and that old Zeiss lens is not going to perform, but there was the 35mm G master and the true imaging quality of the RIV will show in that, again that was made for the RIV (I mean its newer lens), its liner motor AF system changes the game with auto focus speed as well. Just because Cannon does not have alternatives to native RF lenses its not fair to use a cheaper older lens on the Sony for comparison test like this. The true performance of Sony comes through with the G master lenses the 35mm and the new 50mm will outdo the canon in image quality, and someone in the comment mentioned about adapting EF glass that affects image quality and auto focus negatively. Another downside i found on the Canon when it comes to still images is that its battery and heating problems will be an issue when shooting continuous auto focus for wild life not to mention the poor performance of adapted glass. Over all if you could do this again with the new 50mm G Master I am sure the results will be different.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for your suggestions and thanks for watching!

[@timoohlsen]

I fully agree with this comment! Not a fair comparison

[@qaiszureikat7146]

I really would like to see a comparison of the R5 vs medium format mirrorless cameras and even vs the 5dsr for studio/landscape work because i love the files from that camera

[@TheSlantedLens]

I have added that idea to our list. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@qaiszureikat7146]

@@TheSlantedLens Thank you..looking fwd

[@maltemuller1577]

Looks like there was a Mix up in stats :D it says max video 4k@30p for r5 and 8k@30p for A7R IV

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good eyes. Looks like an editing error. Thanks for watching!

[@nightcoder5k]

2:48 The color could be dependent on the lens being used, too.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Possible. We have reviewed a lot of these cameras and Canons are usually warmer and Sonys are usually cooler.

[@Bruno_W]

12 FPS Max on the Canon??? Should it not be 20, or what am I missing here?

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good question. The Canon is 12 fps Mech. Shutter, 20 fps E. Shutter.

[@julioceazar]

they don't put a lot of frames into these cameras because they have cinema cameras they want you to buy.

[@DS-fi4hf]

The RF glass is sharper, than the Zeiss. But put a Sigma lens on a Sony camera, and it becomes equal. I have the Sigma 85mm and the clarity and sharpness easily hang with the Sigma.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@rogerlongenbach5015]

The new AF tracking engine in the Sony A7SIII and A7c was designed for the behind the tree thing lol, since you can tell the AF module how fast to switch focus on something after registering...now just need to repeat this with the new A9 model next year

[@TheSlantedLens]

Can't wait to test this with the a9 model!

[@laurent.dubois]

Am I the only one seeing the Canon always has sharper photos on the examples? It looks more in focus compared to the Sony.

[@TheSlantedLens]

The Canon R5 has a beautiful sensor with extremely sharp images. Sounds like Canon is for you!

[@stevepotter1797]

Dudes. Your lens choices aren't equal. Ya, the Sony 55mm is well respected, but it's 7 years old and 20% less expensive than the Canon 50mm. It makes a difference.

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is a good point. Thanks for watching!

[@MichaelLaing71]

Maybe you should do a video comparing, the modern mirrorless options, vs the Nikon D850 in a studio environment.
The D850 cannot compare against modern mirrorless cameras, in a lot of areas but I am still of the belief that the optical view finder of the D850 is far more practical for using in a studio environment (with flash), than any mirrorless camera with a EVF.

[@TheSlantedLens]

That would be an interesting comparison. Thanks for sharing!

[@stevereid5944]

On the R5 set the viewfinder / screen exposure simulation to off and it will show a decent view under normal slightly dim studio modelling lights . You actually get an even brighter view than using a traditional SLR . And it focuses perfectly on models eye.
And if the camera is tripod’d you can tilt screen so you can see it easily and have communication with the model , whist sitting or standing more comfortably than always peering through the OVF .
That’s is much less tiring when shooting all day , and is brilliant .
Almost like old school medium format ground glass plate view.

[@i20010]

8:00 How at -5 stops you still get over blown highlights in the window?

[@TheSlantedLens]

Its the side of a white truck in direct sun. It's very bright.

[@zbigniewchudyFOTOCHUDY]

On Sony a 7 RIV you used old lens and for Canon you used newer Canon 50 mm 1.2 RF . This is not good comparison. Try to comparison some neewer lenses for sony with better af performance. You used lens from 2016 and Canon lens from 2019.

[@TheSlantedLens]

We are often limited to what we are sent for camera reviews.

[@AruRajan]

2012 lens Design vs 2020 lens Design!!!! why not try with a GM Lens?

[@TheSlantedLens]

We used the best 50mm Sony makes: Sony Planar T FE 50mm f/1.4 ZA Lens

[@justinholding02]

Because the GM lens is no good

[@howardtownsend2574]

That zeiss 50mm is one of the best Sony lenses on the system

[@howardtownsend2574]

Impressive coming from a camera that shoots 10 bit 4k video at 120 frames per second

[@AruRajan]

@@howardtownsend2574 I do agree but it's a 7-8 years old Lens Technology and don't forget the price difference

[@TCinSoCal]

I have a case like that with cutouts…but for handguns and extra mags.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for watching and keep on clickin!

[@andresgarciaherrera56]

Great review, thanks

[@TheSlantedLens]

You are welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@Kaisolostudio]

Just picked up the sigma DN 24-70 F2.8 for $899 brand new @bh for the A7RIV. Closest offering from the RF mount is $2,299 😳

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is quite a big difference. Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@kidoman7988]

Lol. As if both quality are same!

[@toddysurcharge771]

@@kidoman7988 yeah because the Canon one is nearly 3 times better in quality....get out of here with that nonsense. If you need the best gear than your skills are what's lacking not the tools.

[@paulhills1967]

Excellent video. Thank you

[@TheSlantedLens]

Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!

[@uptownphotography]

How does the Canon perform (and image quality) with the Canon adapter using the Pro EF lenses? If I were to buy the new Canon R5 model, I would likely use my current lenses that I own and use with my Canon 5D IV (until budget allows for the R series lenses). Thanks and well done video....
Philip

[@TheSlantedLens]

I experienced no problems using the adapter. I have not had any problems with the EOS R with an adapter.

[@uptownphotography]

@@TheSlantedLens Thanks for the info. That is very helpful. All my weddings this year canceled due to COVID-19, but when the market returns, I plan on buying the R5....

[@airb1976]

@@uptownphotography I have no issues with the Adapter. I found that some of my EF lenses Like the Sigma 35 mm f1.4 which I stopped using because of AF Problems on my dslr is now much better!!!

[@uptownphotography]

@@airb1976 Thanks for the info. Helpful. Which Canon adapter did you get? I think if I remember correctly there are 2, (maybe 3 versions), of the R5 to EF adapters. Thanks...
Philip

[@airb1976]

@@uptownphotography I got the normal one without the Control ring

[@rickjbradbury]

I honestly think that 61mp on a FF sensor is too much. Not been impressed by the Sony R IV files myself.
I have grown to really love the files from my 5DsR. Either way I think we are good for camera IQ in anything from the last 5 years or so.. easy.

[@TheSlantedLens]

It really does come down to what lenses you have invested in and what platform you are comfortable with. They are all so good.

[@rickjbradbury]

@@TheSlantedLens True. The lens is more important really. Most cameras do a very similar job. A simple case of pick your tool and get to work with it. All the best for 2021.

[@james7275able]

Can you mention why you prefer the Canon 5dsr files over the sony a7r4? The price on the 5dsr is about 1,500 dollars now and I'm still intrigued by it.

[@rickjbradbury]

@@james7275able Hi James. The Canon files have IMO better colour and more snap out of camera. The Sony files were somewhat lifeless and no sharper at all. Best thing you can do it fine a selection of RAW files to check out from both cameras and see which you like best.

[@chasingmanhattan]

Canon finally caught up to being exactly as good as I need.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good deal. Enjoy your camera!

[@ronborkowski1721]

I have the zeiss 50mm 1.4 sony and it is the worst autofocus lens I have. So the autofocus test does not surprise me. Keep in mind that it came out in 2016.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good point. Things are changing constantly.

[@ZeusViDeity]

The specs for the Sony was off, it says it could shoot in 8k when it doesn’t.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Typo, it's 4k. Thanks for your comment!

[@taniadina32]

Looking great Jay P! 😊👏

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thank you! I appreciate your support!

[@i18nGuy]

Your methods of comparison and investigation are impressive. I have to say though, I dont know if its youtube or that my dell 3840x2160 27 inch monitor isnt up to it, but I dont see the color differences between the two cameras in the video. Does it require viewing print images, or is youtube flattening the colors, or do I need to upgrade my equipment to see the difference? I thought my cpu and monitor were good enough...

[@TheSlantedLens]

We were surprised at how close they are in color. But we do see the differences. Subtle differences in skin tone, the green foliage, the red in the foliage and her blouse.

[@i18nGuy]

@@TheSlantedLens thanks, I watched the video again with different room lighting and I see some very slight differences. Keep up the great work. Also, I wanted to say thanks again for the Godox AD400 Pro I won in your contest last year. It has been wonderful to use although due to the virus and sheltering I havent been able to use it as much as I wanted.

[@lekkerpruven887]

Looking at current prices, the difference overall in quality is almost zero. A little in usability. Price difference is quite big here in NL. Camera and lens Sony Vs Canon is about 25% €6800,= Vs 5050,= both with cashback at the moment

[@TheSlantedLens]

You can't go wrong with either one of those set-ups.

[@toddysurcharge771]

Pixel Pitch is the difference between the low light performance. That is why the Sony A7S series is the king of low light.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Great insight. Thank you for watching!

[@MacBookBro1]

Dose the Canon R5 and R6 support super 35 mode(crop mode)? That’s one of the main reasons I purchased the Sony a7r iV. In super 35 mode I’m still shooting at 26 megapixels! It’s like I doubled my lens collection.
For portrait events, and wedding I typically will have two cameras strapped to me. My other camera is the a9ii. I also have the a7siii for my video needs. With the e mount lens system, and Sony’s best cameras I feel pretty covered.

[@TheSlantedLens]

We don't see the super 35 mode on the Canon specs.

[@MacBookBro1]

@@TheSlantedLens thank you for getting back. I would consider that a big deal if making a decision on going canon over Sony. I am surprised I don’t see reviewers mention this.

[@ruperterskin2117]

Right on. Thanks for sharing.

[@TheSlantedLens]

You bet! Thanks for watching!

[@Households1234]

Hello, is there any lag to the canon? Thank you

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

I’ve owned both. There is a slight and I mean slight lag with the R5 the a7r is at least 5 times more of a lag. 120fps in the canon

[@TheSlantedLens]

The buffer is amazing on the Canon. Because the file size is larger with the Sony it lags a little bit.

[@marcbrigden9768]

Question guys, I'm shooting with a Canon 5D MK IV and want to upgrade mostly because as I get older, even with a tripod, I'm having trouble with the weight of the camera with my lenses. I do not own RF glass, but have EF. I've been going back and forth in regards to keeping my glass and getting an adapter and switching to R5 OR simply just selling all of my gear and switching to Sony. This video did help, but wondered your take if switching from EF for a portrait photographer (also I'm starting to get into video but its not a big part of what I do).

[@TheSlantedLens]

If weight is your biggest concern then the Sony with Tamron glass is hard to beat. It is super light weight and easy to carry.

[@stevereid5944]

With the EF adaptor the EF lenses work perfectly , in fact better than on a 5d mkIV as it’s focusing off the sensor .
AF is amazing on R5 , it’s a huge upgrade compared to 5d mkIV . It just nails every portrait perfectly . You have to do a bit of testing to learn how the eye flux likes to work . Once you understand that it’s perfect.
Just did a fashion shoot 2500 shots all in focus .. never saw even 1/2 of that on my 5d mkIV .
Speeds up your workflow not having to check every 5 shots that it’s getting the focus .
Weight wise , not a huge diffence with the adaptor and EF L primes , but the RF24-105 is pretty light and well built and sharp enough for a gp lens. But the other non L rf lenses are nice and small and light and decent quality .

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

Canon was better in so many areas.... I get not wanting to pick sides, but the FPS, screen, evf, low light, color, app,ergonomics. A7RIV can’t even shoot 4kHD, much less 8k.

[@fualexander7798]

Everything you said is true, but you have missed out on one thing. The A7R IV doesn't overheat in video mode. While I agree the R5 is a better stills camera, I don't know how I would react to a $3,900 R5 that would only allow me to shoot a couple minutes of video after a round of stills.

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

@@fualexander7798 oh yes it does(I’ve owned it). No ever mentions it because it wasn’t marketed as such... on top of that the same mode of 4K line skipped, the canon does not overheat at all.
The R5 also doesn’t over heat in 4K crop(5.3k). It only over heats in 8k , 4kHQ (8k down sampled), and 4k120, 4k60 after about an hour

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your points of view!

[@saudi4us]

will done review ... love your reviews

[@TheSlantedLens]

Glad you like them! Thanks for your support!

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

I think, the A7RIV was a bad upgrade from the A7RIII. It was to early, the ISO performance can't keep up with the RIII and the buffering is a mess and it opens up a huge hole in the line up, because when the A7RIII is gone, there is no camera with that 40mpix pixel count left an we end with 24-61mpix, what is stupid. 61mpix is just to much, to be really versataile, the RIII was and is a beast in this point. They should have bring the A7RIV as an A9R.
The R5 is also just 45mpix and I think, that was a good choice by Canon.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Excellent points. That buffering is an issue.

[@toddysurcharge771]

Did you use the correct AF (real time) setting for the Sony?

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes, we did. It was set up correctly to get the optimum performance.

[@MF.Productions]

I am not here to try and clash with Canon users as their cameras are great choices as well. My way of thinking is more about who needs large file sizes when the a9 exists for example? Yes, true it is ergonomically behind which is sorted with a battery grip but the price is now great plus choices of great glass is huge now. Many make the mistake by comparing the a7iii with this camera.... it is a totally different animal. I actually do own the a7riv and the a9 but still suggest to others getting an a9.... you won’t regret it.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Great advice. Thank you for sharing!

[@petrieme]

Canon looks to apply more in camera sharpening based on the images?

[@TheSlantedLens]

Could be. Thanks for watching!

[@Shah_creates]

Why do you think that Canon blew it with video? It may lack live tracking or eye-AF for video, but it has 8K! That is huge (especially for a VFX guy like me).

[@TheSlantedLens]

It's the overheating issue for people who shoot a lot of video.

[@Shah_creates]

@@TheSlantedLens Canon’s solution to that: the new R5C!

[@tomhalbouty3653]

This is a nice review as is your basic recommendation to stay with the lens system you are invested in. Based on several torture tests, The Canon R5 overheating video issues seem to be virtually eliminated with firmware 1.6. Personally, I find that used EF L glass, with an adapter, exceeds many third party lens at a relatively modest cost. In my view, used EF lens make the lack of third party lens availability for Canon RF is perhaps a bit overblown. Canon is probably doing this to recover some of their R&D costs as well as to ensure they receiver proper right to use payments from other manufacturers. Chinese manufacturers were starting to produce non sanctioned lens for the RF mount and this approach has damaged many legitimate companies in many industries because legitimate R&D efforts and related costs are basically stolen. I personally believe Canon will open up their technology to legitimate third party lens manufacturers, once they negotiate reasonable terms.

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is great to hear that you are finding success with the EF glass. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@Strikeshotz]

R5 already won buy a mile it been out of stock since it first released, trying to get one is hard enought

[@TheSlantedLens]

It is a great still image camera!

[@rumporridge1]

Facts. I’m still trying myself to get one.

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

Images and autofocus are nicer from the sony. I own both

[@ryanb8736]

I had the A7R3 and A73 and now the R6. Canon finally made a great camera that is like Sony. The colors with Canon are amazing. Sony I always had to work hard with colors.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing. Good to hear your experience!

[@Anarki2U]

Easy in Capture One for Sony !

[@burritobrosvideos8060]

I prefer sony colors

[@nubscrub]

Note that the A7RIV colors are different than what the RIII or III produce. Same for the R6, compared to the R5 or R.

[@ravi1916]

I'm really not sure weather i go nikon z7 ii or canon r5 or sony a7r iii for portraits

[@TheSlantedLens]

They are all great cameras. Which of them do your prefer for color?

[@nightcoder5k]

11:11 I agree they're very close. Would be difficult to choose a winner.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your opinion!

[@rajanvijayakumar8907]

Super. Thank you for your sharing.

[@TheSlantedLens]

You are very welcome. Thanks for your comment!

[@alexbarron7227]

Was anything said about body or GM and RF lens price difference ?

[@TheSlantedLens]

We didn't talk about the difference in lens prices.

[@AstroPinoy]

I had both, I dumped sony due to noise on darker scenes. You can't deny physics, bigger pixel pitch=better low light.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good to hear. Glad you are happy with your Canon R5!

[@nightfury4756]

Please do a comparison with Nikon Z7 ii when it releases.

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is coming soon. Thanks for your comment!

[@viswanathkumar3106]

Sony Planar T FE 50mm f/1.4 ZA is NOT the best lens. I have used it for over 2 years on A7R3 and its not sharp at wide apertures and its slow to focus. It's almost 8 years old lens technology. This comparision is not fair. I challenge you to pick a GM lens and compare it to R5.

[@TheSlantedLens]

It is often what we can get from our sources. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

[@HanieBCreations]

I like the Canon. BTW.. I like cases too!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yes, cases make our lives so much easier!

[@andyyoon7853]

Canon wins BIG time!!

[@TheSlantedLens]

The R5 is super for still images!

[@jaimeduncan6167]

Af in low light ?tracking ?

[@TheSlantedLens]

We did not test the auto focus in low light.

[@ephyman78]

Canon definitely

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your opinion and thanks for watching!

[@michael_weliam_photography]

Big like, thank you all

[@TheSlantedLens]

Our pleasure! Glad you liked it!

[@sorrybadsignal]

What’s the best camera without needing 3rd party software colour correction, and videos

[@TheSlantedLens]

They are both amazing cameras so look at the examples in the video and which one works for you.

[@sorrybadsignal]

@@TheSlantedLens yes i saw the video love the video thank you, asking more from a point of someone whos not a photographer whats a better camera for all round excellence

[@kunleodebode]

The new RF lenses are another level of improvement over the previous EF lenses, and for those who want the very best the Canon R5 is the current benchmark to beat. Not cheap but with fewer compromises. I think the end result had the Canon consistently looking better by a little bit than the Sony.
Ultimately the Canon lenses EF and RF provide a more comprehensive set of options, with so much choice, for those who need the very best lenses overall. from one manufacturer. I shoot with a Sony APS-C camera so I am not biased in my opinion. If I had the money I'd go Canon., if I was a professional.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good points. Thanks for sharing!

[@patlezinc]

Typo at the beginning . Max iso is 51200, not 512000. This test is a bit too quickly done for stills I guess. 20fps, rolling shutter, ibis, etc. Many things are really better on the R5 😉

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your point of view!

[@MarktrustingJesus]

when the a93 comes out that will be an interesting comparison. I think sony overshot going 60 megs. I love my a7r3 and look forward to the a93 if its rumors are correct. The canon is awesome though and very tempting if I didn't have the sony glass already.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Happy Holidays!

[@ce3937]

A nice balanced comparison between two fantastic cameras. The R5 is certainly one of the most exciting cameras we've seen from Canon in a very long time. I would say it's probably camera of the year. That said, the a7R IV is no slouch, and if you're already invested in Sony I wouldn't switch systems. You know Sony is going to come out with something to one-up the R5 next year.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Excellent points! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@ce3937]

@@TheSlantedLens And now two months later, with the A1 about to drop, we have Sony’s one up to the R5.

[@mbismbismb]

come on , just admit it Canon is the KING!!!!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for sharing your point of view!

[@Wildlife__shorts]

At 0.33
Canon has 8k@30 while Sony doesn’t.
Canon has 10 bit internal recording while Sony doesn’t.
Canon definitely have an edge over Sony in almost all categories
Canon’s build quality and Ergonomics are not even comparable with Sony
This is what happens when you get the reviews from a sold out to sony reviewer.

[@TraitDOlympe]

Thank you.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for catching those typos! Sony does not pay us neither does Canon. I own 4 Canons and 1 Sony. I like both.

[@Martinez_Photos]

How about the $1000 price difference?

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is a very good point and unfortunately you are paying for a lot of the video features that the Canon cannot deliver.

[@TomasRamoska]

@@TheSlantedLens Guys you need to update firmware on R5 overheating are old news

[@chrnaf]

The stats for video at 0:33 are backwards.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Yeah, we saw that they got swapped. There is a card note on the top of the frame indicating the correct specs.

[@feth7747]

Canon R5 BY FAR.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Definitely if you are a Canon person!

[@wilismatrix9847]

0:32 the R5 specs are completly wrong, why is that !??

[@TheSlantedLens]

Looks like there are a couple of typos.

[@aravindganesan6968]

Canon R5 Camera as Sightly edge Over on Sharpness. Sony Alpha R4 as Higher Resolution . Can Sony fix a firmware update on this issue. I am planning to buy a Sony !! Please help me

[@NoahStephens]

No. A firmware update can’t fix inferior glass.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Sony will not change this with a firmware update. It is a great camera. You will be super happy with it.

[@georgeverdzadze7063]

Not a good comparison because you guys are using zeiss lens for sony and not G master lens which is a way superior than zeiss
Use a new 35mm g master or 50 1.2 g master and then you can see the difference

[@TheSlantedLens]

Good point. Thanks for watching!

[@augustjoseph629]

So, when you guys noticed all the color noise in her dress when you were indoors, the reason is because the higher megapixel count on the Sony.

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is one of the contributing factors.

[@nunosantos8784]

Great test. Can´t really see where is the 61Mp from Sony. 16Mp more and the Canon stills looks sharper. Should be the lens... but still. Dealing with the bigger files, for zero advantages, doesn´t make any sense the 61Mp. ...and, forget about the video statement.. I mean, really??? A7RIV better for video???

[@reasonandthought1629]

Yes, quite puzzling about the video rating. In no way I the A7RIV better for video.

[@TheSlantedLens]

We were comparing still capabilities. And the a7R4 doesn't overheat as quickly and you can use it on a video shoot.

[@TheSlantedLens]

A camera can't be better for video if it overheats and you can't use it.

[@nunosantos8784]

@@TheSlantedLens I do like your reviews and I do appreciate your simple way to present and talk about gear. But by that same reason I was kind of shocked when you let your personal preference talks louder (without assuming it). That´s the only reason I can find, and became worse after you keep stating the same in the comments. The other reason is you just read the big letters from the web, "Canon R5 overheats", and without reading the small letters... you just followed the stream.
Please, go and read the video specs from both cameras... is that simple. Now, put the max setting from the a7r4 on the Canon, 4k 30p... Where is the overheat??? Not to mention that the R5 can deliver at that same mode 470Mbps vs 100Mbps from Sony. If we keep going, it´s not even comparable. Even in the overheating modes, like almost all sony cameras, like the praised a7III, I think everyone prefer having 25min of 8k, or 4K HQ (just the better 4k in any mirrorless camera) than not having at all.
Anyway... this was a stain on your reviewer path, with no need for that.

[@photographerjonathan]

The Canon R5 is a nice camera, but all the new lenses are so big and heavy and expensive. Sony has a new A9X or R or lll coming out pretty soon, with a rumored 50mp, A9ll focusing which is better than the A7r 4. the A7s lll view finder, and 8k. if rumors are true it will be an amazing camera. personally I have had enough of the huge glass, I like lenses like the new Sigma 85 art at 630g, and the Sony Zeiss 55 f1.8. the Sony 135 f1.8. and if I want shallow DOF I am ok with f1.4 as apposed to f1.2 if I am saving allot of weight. and Sony having 3rd party lens options make a big difference giving you allot more affordable lens choices. hopefully Sigma, Tamron and Samyang will start making lenses for Canon and Nikon soon.

[@TheSlantedLens]

All very good points. I agree with you on going for lighter weight lenses!

[@Lokiii77]

The Canon lens is especially much better than the Zeiss Planar 50mm F / 1.4. The Zeiss is certainly good but it came out in 2015 or 2016 and the RF 50mm F / 1.2 is very recent and fabulous.
The R5 is equipped with a low-pass filter which means that we necessarily have a sharpness loss compared to a sensor that is not equipped with it.
As regards noise and sharpness, comparing the images of the R5 and the A7rIV while their sensors don't have the same resolution puts the Sony at a disadvantage. To compare honestly, it would be necessary to resize the images of the R5 to 61 megapixels

[@TheSlantedLens]

That is an interesting point. Thanks for sharing.

[@wedowhatwewant6850]

need better lens on that sony for proper comparison

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for watching and keep on clickin!

[@damiancanteros]

I enjoyed other comparisons, these one seemed a bit superficial.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for watching and keep on clickin!

[@thomastuorto9929]

Can't deny Canon has done a great job with the R5/R6 cameras & if your shooting wildlife it might be the way to go if you can live with the F11 lens. You have to keep in mind though , The Sony 7R4 came out what, 2-3 years ago & has been down to $3k for a few months now. Your gonna get more noise out of the Sony, it has almost 25% more pixels. Add Topaz DeNoise to your post work & you will get clean pics a lot higher than ISO 6400. Tuff choice, tuff choice. Truth be told, you would be happy with either you came home with. The tech just keeps getting better & better. When do you say, how much more do I really need. Really!

[@TheSlantedLens]

Love your comment. Great points!

[@Robboa1]

How does the Canon sensor do in the Dxo ratings?

[@TheSlantedLens]

To quote google, "the Canon EOS R5 has a highly responsive sensor. Its score places it in 16th position in our database of full-frame and MF sensors overall; in 14th place for full-frame 35mm cameras; and in 1st place for Canon sensors"

[@rcdigitalstudio4437]

You work is truly commendable.

[@TheSlantedLens]

Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching!

[@pollozk8]

The Sony lens is pretty old, bad focusing, same thing with Jared doing this test, he has used a 85mm GM and this is also a slow lens in this regard.

[@TheSlantedLens]

It is often what we can get ahold of. Thanks for your comment.