Yeah that's how I feel too. I understand S550's objectively perform and handle better, but to make a S550 turn heads you have to go insane on it to separate it from the other thousands of 'em. Put some nice rims on an S197, maybe lower it a bit, maybe change the hood up and you got something that looks real mean. I think they nailed the aesthetic with S197s. 2015 little more bland, 2016 a little more bland, then 2017 came and they've been really 'blah' since then. I mean viewed in a vacuum they're an 'okay looking', European-inspired generic sports sedan, and I'm sure performance-wise they're a treat to drive. But they lost any 'Mustang' attitude they had - they don't have that classic silhouette that really speaks toward its heritage. But I suppose I shouldn't give them shit; the 2021 Mustang is a four door Crossover SUV (I kid you not) and that is a travesty so grave even the sin of the first four Cylinder Mustang II in the 70's looks minor in comparison
I absolutely love my 2011 Coyote x-pipe, 2018 intake mani, cai, roush exhaust, cat and resonator delete, ghost cam tune, mt82. 420 rwhp, sounds incredible and I run with cars that I shouldn't be able to...$20k total...
Is ur manifold ported? What was your experience with the 18 manifold? I got kooks headers and pmas on 91 tune. But want to move onto the 18 ported mani, 47lb for e85 and a Lund tune.
@@MrChow408 2018 mani flows better all the way through the power band, high and low vs boss 302 mani makes better power up top but loses down low...you can port the '18 but mine is not...
I have a 2012 gt first gen as well, still on all stock engine. Can't wait to do something similar with mine. This video had my attention pretty quick lol
I'm looking for a clean '12 myself. Really tough to find a clean, (preferably 1 owner) stock s197. I always loved the front end look. Yeah, later technology has been tempting but the raw, visceral ride you get with these, especially with some boost, is what I'm looking for. I have a '15 Challenger 4.6L SRT but I never fell in love with it, never even named it!
@@SeriusChevy I know and that's one of the biggest problems I have with my Challenger. The 6.4 hemi is a sick motor but you really can't supercharge it without doing a welded crank and other motor work to SAFELY boost it. I know others have done it without blowing their sh1t up but that would NOT be MY luck lol. Plus I really love the looks of that gen Stang... Thanks for responding Bro., you've strengthened my decision - now to find a nice specimen!
Crazy video. Saw it when it was new but now I know of Jeremiah Kamp from the other channel. Car is nuts, putting a tvs on my gt500 real soon so hoping to make the same power. This has me excited
Your reaction to a non tvs car is satisfying makes me want to throw my drag setup on an go party im 3.31 an this car an mine seen identical tuned by u an LUND RACING OF COURSE 💪🏽
This car is sick this is why solid axle and manual trans can't be beat its so raw and menacing and not refined everything opposite of the s550 nothing against those cars but these cars are where its at!!!
Way to send it and keep it straight, good shit! Must first mods, billet oil pumps gears, crank sprocket, clutch and DS, then add the power, jmo. Also increase cooling capability with a better radiator, the M-8005-MBR (Boss radiator) works just dandy and the fitment is perfect.
I pretty much have the same set up. 2014 with a v7 jt. 8 rib . Fuel system on e85r. It made 732. Man it's super fun and fast. Nothing like a stickshift banging gears on the street
@@humbertoguzman2231 8 rib isnt really necessary until around 900hp. if u run that crappy gates green belt its going to slip. the belt i run is good for 16psi on the 6 rib.
Not sure if anyone asked if there's any suspension work done to the car? What's the setup? No wheel well gap so I'm assuming you're running drag springs? Maybe just the perfect amount of sidewall? Maybe some Viking or strange adjustable rear shocks? Wheel and tire setup? I'm trying to duplicate this setup with my 2011. Sick build. Thx.
How do you decide what cars to review??? Is there an application process??LOL!! I would love to get your honest opinion about my car. Before I go any further with mods. But long time follower and fan! Enjoy all your vids, keep up the great work!
Would you recommend this setup for a weekend fun/cars and coffee car? I want a budget beater. Don’t care about the interior or even a stereo. Just want it to be a light, quick e85 700 whp car
I just bought a 2011 GT, & want to of course like SO OF US, I want to make it faster, but have a very limited budget, what's the best cheap power gains, & what companies are the parts from? Thank you guys, me & my 6 year old son are building this car, we been through A LOT over the past few years, & this is a gift to both of us!!! 👍💯 I had a 2001 Lightning(540hp) & a 1989 Mustang ASC McLaren, the Lightening was black & the Mustang white, as is my new one. Thanks guys
Hey Alex looking for some advise Broke 3v owner. It is a 06 windvile blue car has magnum xl swap already kooks headers and a cold air. Really interested in the coyote swaps in the car basically wanting my car to be like this. If I bought new from ford racing what engine gen/model. would I need the pbh harness? Wanted to ask you and Christian in the live stream but never made it on. Thanks for always telling us the real shit.
Sloyote okay just wonder im most likely going to keep it a weekend car... i just heard the gen 1 coyotes pop around 700hp and i just want to be around that range... i would get the gen 2 but not a fan of the s550
I live in Florida, have a 14". I had a vortech V3 but I pulled it out, it wasn't for me. The car ran hot most of the time and around the trac after 10 minutes the engine would get way too hot and would have to slow down. Eventually burned out my cooling fan and I wanted to replace with a stronger fan, didn't fit. So I pulled out the v3 and I'm actually happier.
Alejandro Flores The install was fine and tuned by the guys over there. The set up just wasn't for me. Couldn't safely enjoy the car in the higher band. I enjoy hard turning and endurance racing. Try taking your car to a real track, not a drag strip and you'll see what I'm saying. It's not for everyone. Cheers, great content.
I have a question for discussion. Do you think with the trump rollback of EPA standards shops and tuners will be more likely to sell and ship things to california? I assume this will nix the whole carb cert but honestly I don't know. Curious about your thoughts on this.
This is what I wanna put on my 12. Alex do you think it would be worth it to do the 18 manifold? I already have one should I keep it or put the stocker back on.
what do you feel about swapping a 4.6L 3v to a 5.4L 500 engine? The gt500 has always been my dream car. But I have an 08 gt prem. and I've been seeing 500 engines on ebay, that would make my total car value around the same as a gt500 would cost. I dont want to go out and buy one and start that whole payment process again!!! what do you think? is it a worthwhile swap? or would a coyote swap make more sense? Idk if i like those coyotes too much the old 5.4L has been proven LOL
Have a few questions Is there any tuning issues with the 11-14 vs 15-17 when boosted Is there any diff gen 1 vs gen 2 other then rods. Is tuning the 6r80 any different Rear diff. Pros and cons Would you go 15+ ecu for turning in a gen 1
Hey Alex I have a few questions about building a 5.0 engine , I have to assemble a short block or buy one. I burned a piston and scored a cylinder. Any way you could help lead me in a good direction. I have an 11’ Block with the longer head bolts, is that enough of a plus for me to sleeve my block or should I get a gen 3 block and spec the pistons and use my good gen 1 heads crank etc. I’m not the most interesting about the coyotes and I know the gen 3s come with bigger bores. Any insight you could help me with would be much appreciated.
Hell yeah i have a similar setup with a boss mani only on pump gas right now, gonna get a fuel system here soon and go e85. I have 3.31 gears tho im thinkin bout changin em tho for either the 3.73s or 3.55s.
I’m starting to really appreciate seeing S197’s on the road, everyone and their moms has an S550 nowadays
Supercharged s197 with a gen 2 shortblock = gap city
@@dabesdrboy that's me!
@@dabesdrboy more like gen 3 ...
Yeah that's how I feel too. I understand S550's objectively perform and handle better, but to make a S550 turn heads you have to go insane on it to separate it from the other thousands of 'em. Put some nice rims on an S197, maybe lower it a bit, maybe change the hood up and you got something that looks real mean. I think they nailed the aesthetic with S197s. 2015 little more bland, 2016 a little more bland, then 2017 came and they've been really 'blah' since then. I mean viewed in a vacuum they're an 'okay looking', European-inspired generic sports sedan, and I'm sure performance-wise they're a treat to drive. But they lost any 'Mustang' attitude they had - they don't have that classic silhouette that really speaks toward its heritage. But I suppose I shouldn't give them shit; the 2021 Mustang is a four door Crossover SUV (I kid you not) and that is a travesty so grave even the sin of the first four Cylinder Mustang II in the 70's looks minor in comparison
Mine only has 18k
Been waiting on this. We need more s197 content!
Couldn't agree more!
These are almost becoming the modern fox body (dare I say).
A. James NJ Especially the 4.6s, now all the S197s I see are the coyotes
@@christopherbrooke2142
I’m working on a 06v6.
Going to be a fun S197 build.
Great video Alex! No music ruining the video, you get straight to the point. Always awesome content keep it up man!
Sounds like alex needs another s197...
He does...He was like a kid in a candy store driving that thing....C'mon Alex....
And now he has a 2013 gen1 6r80 car!!
Also I love the analog gauges in the S197’s and the trims like the Boss 302, Shelby GT500, GT (5.0, 4.6) etc.
My favorite is the 2013 -2014 mustang
Me too
Same same
Same
Never gonna give up my 13gt!
me too, got a black 14 gt, alex would hate it cause its Auto :)
finally more S197 content, also like the update on his ride from your previous video of it.
The S197 is my all time favorite. I may be biased as I own one!
I sometimes regret selling my 07GT, my 15 And 17 GT just took up too much time. still love the S197 looks tho.
Same xD
@@EliteGeeks 2 identical twins Mustangs. I would rather have old school big power and new big power. 2 of same seems redundant and boring
+2 with a V7, 3.73, and cams! ;)
Sure is...2011 coyote here...stock everything minus a catback...got other priorities 1st b4 modding takes place...better late than never I guess...
This dude understands the sauce. No seats and sound deafening removed base base base model
Actually he took out the interior for date night ;)
I absolutely love my 2011 Coyote x-pipe, 2018 intake mani, cai, roush exhaust, cat and resonator delete, ghost cam tune, mt82. 420 rwhp, sounds incredible and I run with cars that I shouldn't be able to...$20k total...
Is ur manifold ported? What was your experience with the 18 manifold? I got kooks headers and pmas on 91 tune. But want to move onto the 18 ported mani, 47lb for e85 and a Lund tune.
@@MrChow408 2018 mani flows better all the way through the power band, high and low vs boss 302 mani makes better power up top but loses down low...you can port the '18 but mine is not...
“Woo hoo, Oh man!” The intro is legendary. This video makes me want to get an s197
That intro.
I showed it to my cousin, he sure changed his intro.
Thank you
13:21 I Dont Want to do a 1-2 shift ....... but Im gonna do it anyway.
Your reaction on those pulls was priceless.
I have a 2012 gt first gen as well, still on all stock engine. Can't wait to do something similar with mine. This video had my attention pretty quick lol
I'm looking for a clean '12 myself. Really tough to find a clean, (preferably 1 owner) stock s197. I always loved the front end look. Yeah, later technology has been tempting but the raw, visceral ride you get with these, especially with some boost, is what I'm looking for. I have a '15 Challenger 4.6L SRT but I never fell in love with it, never even named it!
@@badfatboy1 hell yeah my friend, get one. I been loving it. For now mine is just a daily driver. But there's so much u can do with them
@@SeriusChevy I know and that's one of the biggest problems I have with my Challenger. The 6.4 hemi is a sick motor but you really can't supercharge it without doing a welded crank and other motor work to SAFELY boost it. I know others have done it without blowing their sh1t up but that would NOT be MY luck lol. Plus I really love the looks of that gen Stang...
Thanks for responding Bro., you've strengthened my decision - now to find a nice specimen!
Same
Great video, you were literally surprised with the cars performance.....your reaction was awesome. Love these honest genuine videos.
The 3.7 badge lol perfect
Crazy video. Saw it when it was new but now I know of Jeremiah Kamp from the other channel. Car is nuts, putting a tvs on my gt500 real soon so hoping to make the same power. This has me excited
Looks like a great time driving that thing around. Nice build!
just bought back my 2011 i love it and will keep it forever
Great video. These Mustangs are the peak Mustang as far as looks. Gorgeous.
Awesome video as always. That car looked like so much fun lol looks like you had a blast in it.
Your reaction to a non tvs car is satisfying makes me want to throw my drag setup on an go party im 3.31 an this car an mine seen identical tuned by u an LUND RACING OF COURSE 💪🏽
Bro i heard lund blows up shit with his tunes
maximus vonce lol you heard wrong
@@maximusvonce1381 you might have Lund confused with bama tunes, Lund is the top coyote tuner in the game
This car is sick this is why solid axle and manual trans can't be beat its so raw and menacing and not refined everything opposite of the s550 nothing against those cars but these cars are where its at!!!
“Driving down the road”
Oh look it’s that dude in blue... never mind that’s Alejandro lmao
#twinin
Lol!
Way to send it and keep it straight, good shit! Must first mods, billet oil pumps gears, crank sprocket, clutch and DS, then add the power, jmo.
Also increase cooling capability with a better radiator, the M-8005-MBR (Boss radiator) works just dandy and the fitment is perfect.
S197 best body since 65-69
Yep and it's not even close. Reason I own a 69 and an 09
"Oh can you do that to my car?"...... No. 🤣 That's why I love your videos.
Man I love those videos keep up the good work Alex
Will always love the S197s..
Your enthusiasm has me liking the damn thing, hahaha! It is a cool simple build for sure!
Love my S197! 2013 Mustang GT w/Track Pack. KEEP ON ROCKING!
This video is super exciting for me because I’ve got the same blower and some parts stock piled for my base model ‘14 car same wheel set up also.
@ 14:23.
“Alex it did a pop 💥 ive got it in the log” 😂😂😫😩
S197 master race FTW
S197 is the goat
Curious as to what the exhaust set up is. Sounds amazing!
@@austinkamaka stock exhaust manifolds... Off-road h pipe... Single tip GT500 mufflers
Wow, thanks for the video! I have a 2011 Gt. I’ve been debating on either modification or upgrading to a 2019 and newer.
“I did a pop, got it in the log” lmfao ☠️😂
I'm sure i missed an older video. But what is this all about lol. I hear the pops obviously but why's he mocking it?
more reviews on s197 pls, maybe a modded boss 302? 👀 #S197MasterRace
CompOrangeBoss I love a Boss 302.
I pretty much have the same set up. 2014 with a v7 jt. 8 rib . Fuel system on e85r. It made 732. Man it's super fun and fast. Nothing like a stickshift banging gears on the street
How many miles at that power? Any issues
@Anthony have about 5k miles. No issues.
@@humbertoguzman2231 8 rib isnt really necessary until around 900hp. if u run that crappy gates green belt its going to slip. the belt i run is good for 16psi on the 6 rib.
The reason I got a 8 rib is because I'm planning to get a built motor. Remember buy once and cry once lol
I'm going to pulley to death . That's why i got enough fuel system, stage 3 bc Trans etc.. planning for the future.
Man, that was the perfect intro to catch the watchers attention.
Awesome video, Alex. Would love to see more reviews like this
Algorithm is on point today. Good ol’ throwback to Jeremiah’s car
thats one fast 3.7 ..
FourPointSixChris exactly what I was thinking..
Thank you so much for this, gonna keep my '14 Same setup just need the supercharger and already had my eye on the Paxton
Not sure if anyone asked if there's any suspension work done to the car? What's the setup? No wheel well gap so I'm assuming you're running drag springs? Maybe just the perfect amount of sidewall? Maybe some Viking or strange adjustable rear shocks? Wheel and tire setup? I'm trying to duplicate this setup with my 2011. Sick build. Thx.
How do you decide what cars to review??? Is there an application process??LOL!! I would love to get your honest opinion about my car. Before I go any further with mods. But long time follower and fan! Enjoy all your vids, keep up the great work!
Would you recommend this setup for a weekend fun/cars and coffee car? I want a budget beater. Don’t care about the interior or even a stereo. Just want it to be a light, quick e85 700 whp car
Damnnnn bro that belly was shaking during that pull 🔥🔥🔥
I just bought a 2011 GT, & want to of course like SO OF US, I want to make it faster, but have a very limited budget, what's the best cheap power gains, & what companies are the parts from?
Thank you guys, me & my 6 year old son are building this car, we been through A LOT over the past few years, & this is a gift to both of us!!! 👍💯
I had a 2001 Lightning(540hp) & a 1989 Mustang ASC McLaren, the Lightening was black & the Mustang white, as is my new one. Thanks guys
Very limited budget and power don’t go hand in hand. Headers, injectors, and E85.
What did you end up doing?
Would love to see a "How to build the perfect S550 MT-82" sometime soon
The video I’ve been waiting for
Badass. Does the centrifugal put more pressure on the crank snout
That S197 is badass!!!
Fun video. I have a 2019 S550 GT PP1 but think I love and need a s197 2013 Boss 302 now.
I loved this car when it was N/A!! So awesome. Still love it though.
It wouldn't be as fast hell a FBO 18 GT 10r80 would walk you
billy heaton if it wasn’t the 10 speed y’all would be gapped I raced 4 new body mustang gt’s with my 11, walked their ass
Thx sir for taking time out for s197 coyotes I have 14 with that relic🤣 of 2300 edelbrock which I wouldn't change it works well.
How is the 2300 edlebrock I've thought of doing that vs a roush or vmp as I don't want to push more than 6-650whp and it's dirt cheap
I lost 3rd and 4th so I took your advice and ordered a ben calimer stage 1 and a mcleod rst so we'll see how it does.
THIS!!! Is why I love my setup!
I’m taking the gt badges off my 07 and putting 4.0
Dj Root just leave the regular badges on, bud...same effect😂
@@felixalvi1920 😂😂😂
07-09 are gay unless it's a gt500
Lebum Jamezz Whats the difference between the 05-06 gt and the 07-09 😭😭
@@Overlookedp Nothing , but theres no gt500 for 05 or 06 .
15:44 best part of the video hands down
What exhaust system is on the car. It sounded clean and crisp?
Magnaflow street i believe with CCst3 cams
Thanks Alex for the reply!
West Palm...
Greetings. New to the channel. Appreciate the insight on the build
How is that rear seat delete working out for you? Extra road noises? How about losing a few pound and you can keep those seat. And maybe a sport bra
Hey Alex looking for some advise Broke 3v owner. It is a 06 windvile blue car has magnum xl swap already kooks headers and a cold air. Really interested in the coyote swaps in the car basically wanting my car to be like this. If I bought new from ford racing what engine gen/model. would I need the pbh harness? Wanted to ask you and Christian in the live stream but never made it on. Thanks for always telling us the real shit.
I wonder what mufflers are on this thing it sounds great not to much exhaust noise
why does plastic hitting plastic trip the knock sensors?
Have the same build but 3.33 pulley instead. Love my Paxton.
Sloyote is it worth putting 700 hp on a gen 1 coyote?
RS STACKS I would personally just stay around 650 unless you track the car a lot and it’s not your daily.
Sloyote okay just wonder im most likely going to keep it a weekend car... i just heard the gen 1 coyotes pop around 700hp and i just want to be around that range... i would get the gen 2 but not a fan of the s550
Damn that looks fun as hell...
@Alejandro Flores need ideas to continue building out my S550!
“Uhhh can you do that to my car? No” LOLOL
Love my lil s197 3.7. Track n backroad focused car
I live in Florida, have a 14". I had a vortech V3 but I pulled it out, it wasn't for me. The car ran hot most of the time and around the trac after 10 minutes the engine would get way too hot and would have to slow down. Eventually burned out my cooling fan and I wanted to replace with a stronger fan, didn't fit. So I pulled out the v3 and I'm actually happier.
Then the install was jacked. I have a centri and have 0 issues
Alejandro Flores The install was fine and tuned by the guys over there. The set up just wasn't for me. Couldn't safely enjoy the car in the higher band. I enjoy hard turning and endurance racing. Try taking your car to a real track, not a drag strip and you'll see what I'm saying. It's not for everyone.
Cheers, great content.
Also the sound of that pulling is all too familiar😅 With no e85 or internal work I was at 611 to the wheels. It was really fun.
I have a question for discussion. Do you think with the trump rollback of EPA standards shops and tuners will be more likely to sell and ship things to california? I assume this will nix the whole carb cert but honestly I don't know. Curious about your thoughts on this.
"No hood struts gay " 😂 imma subscribe 😂
Alex is this set up better than , let’s say a 2.3 whipple? With similar cams?
This is what I wanna put on my 12. Alex do you think it would be worth it to do the 18 manifold? I already have one should I keep it or put the stocker back on.
Sick build. oil pump gears?
Bro, the opining scene of this video is bad ass.
LMAOO your intro killed me xD
Thats cool ur in florida i live in leesburg fl
Did this vehicle make you think of the memories with your s197?
This video will make Nico ThatGuyMarin cry
lflcoast lol he didn’t get to do what Alex did 😂😂🤣
what do you feel about swapping a 4.6L 3v to a 5.4L 500 engine? The gt500 has always been my dream car. But I have an 08 gt prem. and I've been seeing 500 engines on ebay, that would make my total car value around the same as a gt500 would cost. I dont want to go out and buy one and start that whole payment process again!!! what do you think? is it a worthwhile swap? or would a coyote swap make more sense? Idk if i like those coyotes too much the old 5.4L has been proven LOL
When he let that S197 rip that car freakin started moving!! Sounds healthy too.
What bov is that? I have the same paxton. That’s one badass car
And it sounds good.not no typical super loud coyote
How much boost is that thing pushing? Crazy!
About 10psi
@@CurrentRides that's it and you're getting 700 to the wheel that's sweet and the car still looks real nice man you ever want to sell it hit me up😁
@@dblockreal Yeah it's a fun car forsure. Thanks, I have no intention of selling this car, I love it.
that's my plan for my car and I cant wait
you should do a video on how to build the perfect track S197 mt82.
Good shit, rowing dem gears like a pro!
Have a few questions
Is there any tuning issues with the 11-14 vs 15-17 when boosted
Is there any diff gen 1 vs gen 2 other then rods.
Is tuning the 6r80 any different
Rear diff. Pros and cons
Would you go 15+ ecu for turning in a gen 1
Hey Alex I have a few questions about building a 5.0 engine , I have to assemble a short block or buy one. I burned a piston and scored a cylinder. Any way you could help lead me in a good direction. I have an 11’ Block with the longer head bolts, is that enough of a plus for me to sleeve my block or should I get a gen 3 block and spec the pistons and use my good gen 1 heads crank etc. I’m not the most interesting about the coyotes and I know the gen 3s come with bigger bores. Any insight you could help me with would be much appreciated.
Intelligent* about coyotes
Alex, what would you prefer, this car as it sits or the exact same setup with a gen2r at the same power level?
I think I watch this video bout 20 damn times...fucking car moves TF out! I’m sold, Paxton it is💪🏽❤️✊🏽
Hell yeah i have a similar setup with a boss mani only on pump gas right now, gonna get a fuel system here soon and go e85. I have 3.31 gears tho im thinkin bout changin em tho for either the 3.73s or 3.55s.
3.73 pull very aggressively; I have 3:55s and it hooks well
That's a similar set up I wanna do in my fox. T56 magnum, procharged D1X. That thing looks super fun and impressive in a S197. Should be bad in a fox
Do you sell used / refurbed Paxton-Vortech kits?
Those are exactly the wheels and tires im looking for. Can you send the sizes and specs on those tires and wheels. Thank you
My email is hilldonavon353@gmail.com