I appreciate your attempts to make a video about differences and explaining to new comer. You got 70% for the differences correct, normally I am not active in the TL online community. But as a OG with these car since they came off the factory truck in 2004, I can point out a few extra differences. At one point I have every 3G TL with all the difference trims and transmission. I still have a fleet of these TL lol. 1. Type S has more aggressive side skirt vs Base 2. Type S has more aggressive rack and pinion ratio and PS pump behave differently as well ( they work less at parking speed) to give driver more firmer steering feel. 3. Type S receive exclusive Cabin Noise Cancelation system. 4. Type S came with standard deck lid spoiler that more aggressive than 06-08 dealer accessory option. 5. Type S has dark chrome exterior trims vs Base Satin silver color. 6. Type S front bumper has bottom flare out and angle of the foglight / \ vs base \ / 7. Type S has honey come grill vs Base slits 8. 07-08 Base rear bumper has a smaller opening fake vent vs Type S. Type S rear bumper also has flare out at the bottom. 9. Type S receive exclusive exterior paint "Kinetic Blue Pearl" like the one in my profile pic. 10. Type S trans received firmer and slightly quicker shifting from 2nd-3rd and 4th to 5th in the auto trans. 11. All Type S came with two tone interior. 11. If you want a manual in 07-08 the only way to get it from factory is getting from a Type S. 12. Type S has dark chrome headlight housing where Base has chrome. 13. Type S has smoked rear side marker light vs Base red. 14. Type S front seat has more aggressive side bolster on the seat back portion, bottom portion receive an additional sticking panels (4 on type S and 3 for base). Rear seat Type S has also difference than Base as well. Now to performance perspective, here are the order going from slowest to fastest in STOCK form. Base auto > Type S auto > Base Manual > Type S Manual. Base manual is faster than Type S auto because of the gearing disadvantage, 0-90 the Type S will pull away from Base manual (assuming the base can can shift). After 90 mph the base manual will reeling in Type S, we OG tried so young guy doesn't have to. However between the updated tech and abilities to tune ECU in the Type S even an Auto Type S is preferred (all 07-08 ECU are tunable without required modification).
Proud owner of a 06 tl (6speed).My First motor timing belt snapped on me and vavles got bent 🫠. I purchased another a3 off an 05 tl with 79k. Slapped a few bolt ons and she is running a lot smoother. J series is roaring again ❤. Keep up with maintence and these cars will run a lifetime 👍.
@@DrivenCarss unfortunate for a/t owners having to deal with tranny issues 😩. Overall the 3rd gen is a great looking platform 💯. Great content bro beans keep em coming.
I got my TL auto cause nobody bothered teaching me how to drive standard but It is still a fun car to drive and does the job, but yes manual is better for these cars, auto is cool too if you wanna just chill and drive.
There not a type s for a tsx but you have one of the best engine for honda k24 6speed but i f you are look for more hp there is a tsx in the UK they dont call it tsx they call it honda accord but its bad ass
So if I have the 07 type s, can I just buy the front lip not the whole a spec bumper.Pretty new to cars so don’t flame me. Like I just want the rear diffuser and front lip and side skirts I don’t want to have to add a whole new bumper just to fit the lip.
How did you modify the exhaust tips for the tl type s to sound louder? BTW I have an 07 tl type s, and it's the best car ever!! TL stands for True Love imo!
Didn’t the 04-06 models have 270hp?? In 07 they detuned the 3.2 to not steal sales from the type s since they were so close in crank hp....picked up a 04 base TL, aside from the ugly non gps stereo, I love it
me honestly i prefer the base model no point for a typeS when it’s the same body style it’s just the motor and the interior also the paddle shifters that’s all other than that u can make a base model looks like a type s simple slap a Type s Lip and the BBK and people won’t no the different just pop the hood that’s it
The biggest difference between any tl is manual vs automatic transmission. Not only a huge fun factor, any automatic transmission tl can not beat a 6sp manual, no matter type s or not.
The regular type L has 270hp, if your gonna say 256 crank then you should do the same for the type s….point being is that both vehicles make almost the same power….also even the regular type L with the 6 speed came with front brembo brakes and front limited slip differential….
04-05 TL base were rated at 270HP from Honda, 06-08 base were rated at 258HP only because they updated their standard of measurement to SAE which then changed the TL rating to 258HP but the base engines from 04-08 make the same power. 04-06 base manual also came with thicker/stiffer rear sway bar exactly like the type s. The base manual also has a different gearing ratio than the TL type s manual.
The best base model is 04& 05 more hp and torque close to the type s the type s has little more hp but with a tune up on the base model it will not make a different type s it little more heavy with the j35 for me the base model its better then the type s cuz the body looks better
04-05 Base does not have more power than 06-08 Base. The SAE procedure changed to "rating" a car HP to prevent the crazy horse power war. Some vehicle loose power while other gain power. Aka accessory belt must be on, engine oil top off to the max. Many brand intentional put less oil and not put on accessory belt to produce un-achievable number. If you looks at wheel HP the 04-05 vs 06-08 they put down the same WHP.
@truonghthe I respect your opinion, but you're wrong. The 04 and 05 base Model it is faster than 06 and 07 Base model I .did race the 06 and 07 and beat them like nothing just saying
The type s only had 16 more horse power than the 04-05 tl. They bumped it down to 256 once the type s came out so it would seem like more of a difference which is kinda funny. They probably had too much hp for their transmissions anyways though.
I’ve heard both of what everyone is saying and I’ve had 2 05’s and 1 07 (Ik I’m crazy🤣) The 2005’s definitely felt quicker and snappier and not by too much but I can tell. The 2007 also drives smoother.
what i mean when i say the exhaust is stock is that i don’t have any different branded exhaust, i just removed the cat and i have high flow pre cats, the mufflers are still stock
I appreciate your attempts to make a video about differences and explaining to new comer. You got 70% for the differences correct, normally I am not active in the TL online community. But as a OG with these car since they came off the factory truck in 2004, I can point out a few extra differences.
At one point I have every 3G TL with all the difference trims and transmission. I still have a fleet of these TL lol.
1. Type S has more aggressive side skirt vs Base
2. Type S has more aggressive rack and pinion ratio and PS pump behave differently as well ( they work less at parking speed) to give driver more firmer steering feel.
3. Type S receive exclusive Cabin Noise Cancelation system.
4. Type S came with standard deck lid spoiler that more aggressive than 06-08 dealer accessory option.
5. Type S has dark chrome exterior trims vs Base Satin silver color.
6. Type S front bumper has bottom flare out and angle of the foglight / \ vs base \ /
7. Type S has honey come grill vs Base slits
8. 07-08 Base rear bumper has a smaller opening fake vent vs Type S. Type S rear bumper also has flare out at the bottom.
9. Type S receive exclusive exterior paint "Kinetic Blue Pearl" like the one in my profile pic.
10. Type S trans received firmer and slightly quicker shifting from 2nd-3rd and 4th to 5th in the auto trans.
11. All Type S came with two tone interior.
11. If you want a manual in 07-08 the only way to get it from factory is getting from a Type S.
12. Type S has dark chrome headlight housing where Base has chrome.
13. Type S has smoked rear side marker light vs Base red.
14. Type S front seat has more aggressive side bolster on the seat back portion, bottom portion receive an additional sticking panels (4 on type S and 3 for base). Rear seat Type S has also difference than Base as well.
Now to performance perspective, here are the order going from slowest to fastest in STOCK form.
Base auto > Type S auto > Base Manual > Type S Manual.
Base manual is faster than Type S auto because of the gearing disadvantage, 0-90 the Type S will pull away from Base manual (assuming the base can can shift). After 90 mph the base manual will reeling in Type S, we OG tried so young guy doesn't have to.
However between the updated tech and abilities to tune ECU in the Type S even an Auto Type S is preferred (all 07-08 ECU are tunable without required modification).
Beautifully written thanks for taking time out to make this.
Nbs thank you for taking your time
Can we tune a manual 06?
@@Lucas-gi8bzyes you can. You will need adapter harness and 07-08 ECU.
To all my TL bros and sistas….your TL doesn’t have to be an MT, Type S or 3.7! The base 3rd gen automatic is still gold.
definitely still a good car
🙌👏
I just got one at 90k miles. I had to get pads and rotors done, but after that, I love this car.
got an 06 base 6speed last year for 3k , love it!!!!
good price bro great car
Proud owner of a 06 tl (6speed).My First motor timing belt snapped on me and vavles got bent 🫠. I purchased another a3 off an 05 tl with 79k. Slapped a few bolt ons and she is running a lot smoother. J series is roaring again ❤. Keep up with maintence and these cars will run a lifetime 👍.
hell yeah bro the only downside that kills these cars is the tranny, engines are bulletproof
@@DrivenCarss unfortunate for a/t owners having to deal with tranny issues 😩. Overall the 3rd gen is a great looking platform 💯. Great content bro beans keep em coming.
7th gens best trannys period!!
Bullet proof trannys for those 2 years.
@@DrivenCarss I know the automatics are weak but what about the manuals in base models with the J32 engine?
Hey my boy you’re in the right lane with these car reviews. Keep it going……..you gonna make it……was here before the glow up just remember me lol
I’ve had a base 2nd gen and now I have a type s 2nd gen and yea the type s is definitely where it’s at
Tip for anyone looking to get one don’t get an automatic. You’ll find more enjoyment in a manual and less problems!
absolutely bro i wish i had one
I got my TL auto cause nobody bothered teaching me how to drive standard but It is still a fun car to drive and does the job, but yes manual is better for these cars, auto is cool too if you wanna just chill and drive.
@@quakerome4594 yep i still enjoy the auto im just afraid for the tranny
@@DrivenCarss Same here bro lol shit be bipolar.
The A5 and A6 series trannys are actually bullet proof with proper care just a heads up.
I run autos and I can roll the odometers
Paddles, different seats, also the stitching on the door panels. It shares the same engine from the RL just tuned up
i completely forgot about the paddles, and i didn’t know about the stitching thank you!
No problem bro
My 2005 TL 6MT with Aspec kit was a great car. I traded an 02 RSX TypeS. My RSX was more exciting but the TL was awesome all around.
I have a acura tsx i honetly wish they made a type s but they did offer a manual and thats when the tuning aswell as bolt on kits went crazy
type s was definitely a great choice they made
There not a type s for a tsx but you have one of the best engine for honda k24 6speed but i f you are look for more hp there is a tsx in the UK they dont call it tsx they call it honda accord but its bad ass
That’s why my oddesey has so much get go it’s a sports car at heart
Sorry but i have a 2005 tl type s 6speed manual and have the j32 so the 2008 type s is the one with the j35
Wheel set up wheel set up pls
I had an 06 type s 6mt. Greddy exhaust aftermarket air intake staggered etc
got a 08 base model. 80,000 miles on it had it for almost 3 years now...
I love my 04 tl 6speed ❤❤❤
You should make a Google spreadsheet on what you’ve done on your car and what you could add on mods
i have a previous video with links to everything i’ve done
nah we gatekeeping over here
I don’t like the sound of the exhaust, sounds like a diesel truck
So if I have the 07 type s, can I just buy the front lip not the whole a spec bumper.Pretty new to cars so don’t flame me. Like I just want the rear diffuser and front lip and side skirts I don’t want to have to add a whole new bumper just to fit the lip.
What’s your wheels and tires set up sizes?
Where I can buy that font lip aspect ???
Where did u get ur steering wheel
I like how your reviewing the car by an abandoned trailer
How did you modify the exhaust tips for the tl type s to sound louder? BTW I have an 07 tl type s, and it's the best car ever!! TL stands for True Love imo!
Mmm he prolly bought some quad tips from Amazon and then went to a muffler shop to tell em to install em
@@badrolas5668 quad tips are standard for Type S...
He probably did cat delete/gutted cat's (all 3 of them) and straight pipe where mufflers where (mid muffler) and bumper mufflers
Didn’t the 04-06 models have 270hp?? In 07 they detuned the 3.2 to not steal sales from the type s since they were so close in crank hp....picked up a 04 base TL, aside from the ugly non gps stereo, I love it
The 04 base does have a navigation package I have it
It’s still 270 technically. No changes were made to the motor. Horsepower is just measured differently nowadays from what I’ve read
Great video 🔥
appreciate you a lot man means a lot to me
hey man can you tell me what kind of aftermarket headlights I can get for a 07 Type S
these are DEPO brand headlights they’re all clear
me honestly i prefer the base model no point for a typeS when it’s the same body style it’s just the motor and the interior also the paddle shifters that’s all other than that u can make a base model looks like a type s simple slap a Type s Lip and the BBK and people won’t no the different just pop the hood that’s it
some people say that, it’s a valid point
The biggest difference between any tl is manual vs automatic transmission. Not only a huge fun factor, any automatic transmission tl can not beat a 6sp manual, no matter type s or not.
I had to get my transmission repaired for my 05. Sucked.
yep the auto tranny is definitely a failing point of this car
The regular type L has 270hp, if your gonna say 256 crank then you should do the same for the type s….point being is that both vehicles make almost the same power….also even the regular type L with the 6 speed came with front brembo brakes and front limited slip differential….
04-05 TL base were rated at 270HP from Honda, 06-08 base were rated at 258HP only because they updated their standard of measurement to SAE which then changed the TL rating to 258HP but the base engines from 04-08 make the same power. 04-06 base manual also came with thicker/stiffer rear sway bar exactly like the type s. The base manual also has a different gearing ratio than the TL type s manual.
did auto get limited slip as well on Type S?
Wow those wheels looks great on the Type-S. Which wheels are those?
these are the adohan Ds02
What size wheels / tires
The best base model is 04& 05 more hp and torque close to the type s the type s has little more hp but with a tune up on the base model it will not make a different type s it little more heavy with the j35 for me the base model its better then the type s cuz the body looks better
i respect it!
@@DrivenCarss thanks 🤘👏🙌
That’s Factz tho
04-05 Base does not have more power than 06-08 Base. The SAE procedure changed to "rating" a car HP to prevent the crazy horse power war. Some vehicle loose power while other gain power.
Aka accessory belt must be on, engine oil top off to the max. Many brand intentional put less oil and not put on accessory belt to produce un-achievable number.
If you looks at wheel HP the 04-05 vs 06-08 they put down the same WHP.
@truonghthe I respect your opinion, but you're wrong. The 04 and 05 base Model it is faster than 06 and 07 Base model I .did race the 06 and 07 and beat them like nothing just saying
my boy had like 3 intros lol
In my experience the tl base 6mt with a 3rd cat delete oddesy intake and oddesy intake spacer is faster than a type s auto
My ‘08 Base has shit for brakes. They don’t agree with the way I drive
Very information video
Dang what rims are those ?
these are adohan ds02
Not 100% correct but Great review. Keep it up
The Difference between a Type S and A Base TL... Is you can take everything off the Type S and put it on a Base Model...lol
you can say that about pretty much any car!
Haha someone on ista has 3.2 blowing out cars on bolt on and tune up, even gapping type s with there mods 😂
04-06 has 270 hpfor the base model
Now answer why the RSX Type s claps both with a 4 banger .
Anyone wanna trade my auto 06 tl V6 3.2 for a 4 cyl I can't hang with the gas mileage 😅
it be like that 😂
The type s only had 16 more horse power than the 04-05 tl. They bumped it down to 256 once the type s came out so it would seem like more of a difference which is kinda funny. They probably had too much hp for their transmissions anyways though.
It’s always been 258 they just measured if differently back then when the 2004 and 2005 models came out
At least that’s what i heard
I heard that too but everywhere says it has 270hp compared to 06-08 having 258
Same engine and everything but the EPA changed the way they measured horsepower.@@berserkmaster2514
I’ve heard both of what everyone is saying and I’ve had 2 05’s and 1 07 (Ik I’m crazy🤣) The 2005’s definitely felt quicker and snappier and not by too much but I can tell. The 2007 also drives smoother.
Lmfao get a type s? My base 6mt smokes types'
Thats not a stock exhaust dude...
Stop lying.
Theu do NOT sound different when both are stock...
what i mean when i say the exhaust is stock is that i don’t have any different branded exhaust, i just removed the cat and i have high flow pre cats, the mufflers are still stock
But that's not stock at all lol just the exhaust tips are
@@McGloven lol yeah i guess in a way
Hey bro I can’t find your TikTok or insta
It’s @DrivenCarsYt on insta