Bad Movie Beatdown: This Means War (REVIEW)
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=Originally March 23rd, 2014; Re-edited version=
Film Brain goes deep undercover to review the action-rom-com that will probably make you go a bit paranoid… Season 6, Episode 3.
#ThisMeansWar #ChrisPine #TomHardy #ReeseWitherspoon #TilSchweiger #AngelaBassett #ChelseaHandler #McG - Фільми й анімація
Originally posted in March 2014, this is a re-edited version that loses 1m 27s of running time. As per usual, cuts have been made to the film clips, but also to reduce the amount of dragging syllables; this was coming off the "angry period", where I had mostly returned to normal but was still over-emphasizing in spots, so I've tried to correct that as best as I can. While this episode was originally in HD, I've also re-encoded the DVD source anamorphically for better quality and upscaled that too, and I used my original edit file for this new version. Funnily enough, no home video release of the film is uncut: the international theatrical release (such as the UK) included the lines cut for a PG-13, and is used for international TV showings, but Fox used the cut US master for all territories - somewhat ironic given the Blu has an unrated extended cut! As you can probably guess, this is to link with A Wrinkle in Time, hope you enjoy!
its ok Flim Brian, I am always thoroughly entertained regardless of your period.
You have every right to be angry with this piece of shit! I (for some odd reason) went to go see this garbage in theaters with a female friend of mine, who was having a fight with her boyfriend at the time. Didn't like it then either.
Film Brain
2:03 I think Larry Doyle should have just left Fox all together...
Also, nice of you to tie one of your previous reviews to a movie where Reese Witherspoon looks like Amy Adams.
I am glad to hear this was an old episode. I thought you were going to find my bug. Uh...I mean...
Sure she dated both of them, but they plant cameras in her house and a bunch of agents watch her in intimate moments. Yeah, she's the real victim.
As an American woman, I can confirm that many of us are attracted to English men. These women were clearly written by a man.
Kimi FW This why more make screenwriters should get help by women.
I was confused because I immediately assumed when she mentioned he was British that it was a plus... what??
@HerrNilssonTheMonkey [snapped out of her fantasy of Idris Elba giving her a hot oil massage] Sorry, what?
Well not only that, but both genders find certain accents attractive. So to be like "yuck British dudes" when they'd very likely be attracted to British women or another group, is annoyingly hypocritical.
@HerrNilssonTheMonkey Oh come now I'm sure deep down all ladies are secretly dreaming about Matthew Buck in their deepest fantasies.
There's bromance, there's gay, and then there's these two...
Kat Tastic Two bros chillin' a hot tub, five feet apart cuz they're not gay!
They should have done with alternate ending 3. It would make the movie slightly better, really.
They are secret lovers. There straight because they say they are, something that they aren’t
They were clearly written by people who don’t understand how to write male friendships.
@@Targisvear It would have made the most sense-they have far more chemistry with each other than do with the leading lady.
Tom Hardy absolutely regrets starring in this film to the point that he refuses to star in any rom-coms.
I think I could tell that Hardy thought very little of it when Total Film did a career retrospective interview not long after it was released, and had absolutely no mention of it.
I wonder what he'd say about family films
Which is a shame, cuz he's just as good at being romantic and charming in this movie as he is in his darker, violent roles. I don't blame him at all, but he was the one bright spot in this shitty movie.
Until Venom XD
Would you consider Venom a Rom Com?
You know, it's something when this movie has Reese Witherspoon playing both of these guys who are trying to date her so she can see which one's better, yet when she finds out they actually were competing for her, SHE'S the one who plays the victim card! That kinda gives you the heads-up that yea, maybe none of you deserve each other.
Yeah. They're all bad people.
trc2rockon Speaking of Reese Witherspoon, why does her character in the Wrinkle in Time Remake bear a striking resemblance to Amy Adams?
@@kimifw58 this is exactly why they do deserve each other
trc2rockon Wait, wait, wait. How is any of this her fault? She’s literally just dating them. Unless you’re a teenager, being monogamous and serious usually needs to be discussed between the two parties. Why should she tell any of them that she’s dating somebody else, too? That’s just hurtful. These dudes on the other hand stalk and spy on her and treat dating her like a literal game. How are they the victims? What the hell?
That's just it. She really never really makes it clear her intentions clear and instead looks like she's just having them unknowingly compete for her affection. So, she really has no right to get upset when she finds out that is exactly what they're trying to do(rember she doesn't know about the spying) she looks hypocritical.
I'm disappointed none of the alternative endings involved Tuck and FDR forgetting about Lauren and having one passionate kiss as they finally accept their love for one another.
They belong together.
Yeah, that would've been a satisfying ending to a shite film.
If it were made today, they definitely would have, but in 2012, they managed to still display restraint.
It bums me out that movie makers act like men are not supposed to care about love and emotion and try to draw them only by violence.
girl in the basement Not to mention that they’re stupid, territorial, never take no for an answer, and natural stockers.
It's a matter of preference. I'm a woman and I love movies that have a lot of gunfights and explosions. Oh, you meant the characters and their approach to romance. Carry on, then.
It’s a sexist stereotype about men. Plenty of guys will enjoy a romance if it is written well.
@@ab-gail love triangle romcom are annoying to me , the woman is being pined for by two men she's playing and somehow SHE'S the good person it's a quadruple drama where the guy and girl are with "rich" or "goldigging" tropes and they both really "get each other/young at heart"
Can't Hollywood make a decent romcom without having to make the leads horrible people and base it on simple things and NOT have a "other love interest" plot in it ???
I enjoy romcoms like The world we make, Chasing Amy, my best friend's wedding and my favorite Life In a year where there was none of that and in all four the ending was done well and were bittersweet and the world we made had a happy ending that actually made sense
I'm pretty sure that's partly a result of demographic research. Numbers aren't known to lie.
That is absolutely atrocious. I remember trying to watch this because Tom Hardy but couldn't go past the dating website bullshit scene. Good decision.
This is my favourite movie. Why would you do such a thing? It's all in good fun, and it has everything required of a good movie: Sex, romance, action, comedy and Reece Witherspoon. A little something for everyone as a matter of fact.
This is certainly an interesting way to celebrate International Women's Day. Personally I'll stick to having my girlfriend dominate me in bedroom.
Otaking Mikohani
We all have to make sacrifices, right?
Garret LeBuis Sacrifices? Nah, dude, it's totally a win-win situation! XD
Otaking Mikohani Ouch...
Tommy Deonauth's Archives Why is everyone assuming that femdom is a bad thing? I didn't think that it was THAT niche a fetish :/
im surprised no one else noticed it was a reference.
When will Til Schweiger learn to stay away from Hollywood? Believe it or not, he has actually made some decent or even good movies in his own country.
RPGFan really? I own a few of them.
Not to necro this but, do you recommend any?
Huh. I'd pay to see a quirky spy movie with Chris Pine and Tom Hardy.
This movie would of been better if its was more of an action movie and their bromance. 😍
Y'know, at least some of this movie could've been improved if Lauren was simply honest about wanting to be in an open relationship. And it'd certainly be more interesting if FDR and Tuck actually did have the hots for each other. That's not all I'd change, but it's a start.
Ironically, we'd have a better bromance movie featuring Tom Hardy in the Venom films. XD
Hey there kids, there is another movie that did the subject premise much better, it's a little movie from 1994 called *_True Lies_* starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jamie Lee Curtis, and was directed by James Cameron. That movie had genuine comedy and amazing action in it, and even had the late-but-great Bill Paxton in it.
Oh, there IS another movie that did a VERY similar premise better, but it's not True Lies. Try In the Company of Men, one of the great debut features. And it's better specifically because the thing is sharp and dark and squirmy on purpose.
Thanks for the recommendations!
"BATTERY AZIZ...."
if there is a role hard to get right in a rom-com [and this film's a good example] it's the girl's best friend as they often have no personality or life of there own except for the main girl to talk to and crack awful jokes.
What's Your Number did a good job.
"I am a cruise ship captain of a very large vessel," Chris Pine says. We see you, Captain Kirk.
Also, I hadn't previously realized that I had seen this movie before, years ago. I remember virtually nothing about it.
I would also like to mention that the way Chris Pine's character was looking at Tom Hardy's when he talked about having what the two of them have 'with a woman' was not heterosexual in any way.
Also, Mr. Brain, your James Bond T-shirt is very charming, and I admire your fortitude in reviewing all of these awful movies. Sometimes I can't even look at certain scenes if they're too embarrassing.
That look and those lines spoke volumes that the film was too safe to address.......
I guess Simon Kinberg must be a better producer than screenwriter _(Deadpool)_
@30:40
Alternate Ending #4: Deadpool killed them all because they were all terrible characters.
Simon Kinberg And Skip Woods are Shittiest writers for the X men franchise because Woods wrote X men Origins: Wolverine, Kinberg wrote Dark Phoenix, X Men: Apocalypse, And X Men: Last Stand
Okay, so this script/idea first existed around 1997/1998. That explains a lot. The initial idea/script, I'd presume, was "In the Company of Men, Looney Tunes Edition." Goes through a bunch of drafts over the decade and a half, adding terrible ideas and scenes, removing context for ideas that were, initially at least, decent, before eventually becoming a soulless action rom-com starring spies, but with the In the Company of Men premise still there.
Also: That's an, I have to assume gas powered, movable light. I assume because most of the building on this is during the night hours.
Chris Pine can elevate any movie...except this one. It's t hat bad of a movie. It's a waste of Tom Hardy too.
This is my favourite movie. Why would you do such a thing? It's all in good fun, and it has everything required of a good movie: Sex, romance, action, comedy and Reece Witherspoon. A little something for everyone as a matter of fact.
@@NotoriousLightning some of the scenes felt like they ended abruptly. Like they just didn’t want to go into the whole reason as to why Reese liked Chris more & chose him over Tom. Then Tom’s estranged wife magically wants him back after he’s rejected by her. It all felt too convenient.
@@BingoNamo-gb8pz I have no memory of this video or this movie. If whatever I said sounded unreasonable, I was probably trolling.
Aunt May was in this? I bet she was scared by the Green Goblin afterwards.
Meanwhile, we got Sally Field's portrayal of Aunt May that same year.
I bet WWE Studios will make a sequel to this, and have the story be about the little sister of the Heinrich Brothers, trying to avoid going down the same path as her late brothers while butting heads with a rookie agent.
This movie was such a waste of Chris Pine and Tom Hardy. You put them in a movie together, it should be an action film not a stupid romantic comedy.
John Smith It's not their fault. Bless their hearts, they did their best with what material this movie had...
The movie should have just been a straight up action movie. Then at least it would have been funny for _different_ reasons.
I'm guessing this movie is about two guys fighting over a chick.
Add in the fact that the "two guys" are secret agents using drones and stuff to spy on this chick, and it's basically a stalker espionage tale.
I still remember when the ads for this made it out like it was a live action Spy vs Spy movie.
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So much in fact that MAD magazine sent them a cease and desist order.
Thus the advertising was changed.
Misterprickly Why wasn't the people behind the Black Christmas remake sued for false advertising in their trailers? Sure they didn't have much faith in the film, that's no excuse to flat out lie to audiences with scenes just made for the trailers.
I really couldn't tell ya!
That's not the only movies to do that either.
This Means War...io Land isn't getting a new game any time soon...
Plot Twist: Chris Pine ends up with Tom Hardy in the end after all. Still a better love story than Twi...
That joke is so 2013
Twilight?
Twister?
Twins?
Fun fact Reese Witherspoon and Chris Pine both worked together again in A Wrinkle In Time
Disney65Fan oh I see...
Disney65Fan don't even mention that piece of shit!
I completely forgotten about that movie.
Two bad movies where they’ve been together
Why was Hardy in this shit. And whoa, I love Chris but tom is definitely more attractive.
I'm certain the casting director is still giggling their arse off to this day for making a romcom about spies into "Kirk vs Picard: the movie".
Tom Hardy is so contractually obligated in this.
James Tiberius Kirk batteling Shinzon of Remus !
I seen a show where the mean character lost his family and memories and his friend family adopted him into their family. But they still get shipped for some weord reason. Bromance is ok just as long as it isn't creepy.
why the fuck is that kid sparring with a red belt when there's very clearly another boy in the dojo who's also a yellow belt? completely ignoring the fact that that's NOT how you spar and an instructor would've stopped them by this point, instructors tend to pair off kids who are the same skill level. also a big part of martial arts is discipline, what kind of instructor just lets a kid go buckwild beating the snot out of a lower belt while the kid's dad is egging him on from the sidelines? that doesn't sound like the kid learned discipline at all. how did he ever get past white belt what the hell
This was one of the "more serious" movies Reese made in her Serious Artist period after "Four Christmases." Yep.
Won't lie I enjoy watching your review than any rom coms. I'm a huge fan of Death Becomes Her tho (which is a romcom, right...?)
C 5 No, it's a Thriller that runs on the Groundhog Day loop and it involves a birthday...
Wait, that's Happy Death Day.
Dark comedy.
Love that movie. It was a favorite of mine for a long time. I need to find a copy of it to watch it again.
That Ready to Roll intro made me happy! :)
9:32 I love how Matthew acts like he knows the actor in any way, such as how he normally talks.
Are u ever going to do new BMBD, there’s so many terrible new movies that need to be kicked the hell out of...
Yes, but I've been trying to get the old ones up as much as possible.
He recently bought The Emoji Movie, so possibly.
Film Brain thanks appreciate it... And for some reason I can’t like your videos I press it, it says like but doesn’t show on your page....
Jesse Hill Same here...
Huh, that's a very odd glitch, the first anyone's said! I have no idea why that may be.
'EH'M NOT GAEH!'
...would have been a better title for this movie
15 years ago this is what you had to do to get women.
You had to find them and actually talk to them and have the balls to ask them out. .
The script was so old that now that seems offensive but it's exactly how things used to be
I regret watching this film in theaters. But on the bright side, at least I got to see "American Reunion" afterwards. It also baffles me about the amount of explicit sexual dialogue that films like these have and they still get away with PG-13 ratings. "Hot Pursuit", which also stars Reese Witherspoon, is another example.
14:07 One of my favorite parts of any review ever! XD
5:28 let alone what an odd way / angle to shoot a gun?
That's a stupid Hollywood gun cliche. It's completely ineffective because you can't aim the gun properly.
I caught this on TV a couple of years ago....utter shit. The only part I found amusing was Tom Hardy's paintball bit.
That scene in the video store is embarrassing....trying to make her sound like a Hitchcock expert, and she goes and says that Hitch's best years were 60-72. Yeah, because who needs Vertigo, North By Northwest or Rear Window??
Also, the idea that two guys like Hardy and Pine would be losing it over Reese Witherspoon.....she's attractive enough but come on, those guys wouldn't be short of other options.
The Mad Max joke was bit ahead of its time as fury road came out 2015
Is Till Shweiger as much a BMB regular as Will Yun Lee?
Look, JB! A love triangle!
Judging from the film poster, this is a boring action or possibility spy movie with Reese Witherspoon being “one of the guys” and giving these dudes a run for their money until she gets rendered completely ineffective for the last act
just noticed updated opening!
I think you meant, "millions of dollars in government equipment." On the drone scene. C'mon now bud.
Shit 20:50 is literally in the Ted Bundy movie as a warning sign
This movie would have been better if they focused more on the characterisation and friendship/comaradry of the main protagonists and made them more likable as well as do the same with Lauren making all three of them come across as less manipulative,fleshed out the villain and featured him more (but not too much), focused more on the action (or at least made the romantic element less creepy and cheesy by making it more complelling and actually more emotionally intelligent then the actual end product reviewed here and also by making although I've already said this but I'll say it again made the two male leads way less like manipulative stalkers and more like lovable action heroes /bromance buddies/charming superspies )
That’s a great idea! Rather than a stupid, tedious love triangle, why not have Lauren, who could have an arc about self confidence, and FDR, could learn about being a more humble, caring guy, just be the main couple while protecting each other from the villains, with Tuck as the supportive wingman, and rather than just magically end up with his ex at the end, have him realise that it’s unhealthy, since he’s just getting back with her purely based on old memories, but he does reconcile with her and his son, and beings dating a new love. How’s that sound?
i prefer alt end 3.
Ditto.
Those subtitles for Till Schweiger were also for German audiences, even we don't understand a word he's saying...
This love story is Convoluted
Didn't you do a review on Just Married or am I losing my mind?
I did not, alas.
The thing that kills me is that they think they need to add romance into action movies for "the women". I can't stand romantic movies, they're all the same and boring. I love action movies just as is.
All three of these characters are manipulative pricks. I never realized just how awful romcom movies could be. I was blissfully ignorant.
Two things still stick out.
1. Still can't believe this was in production the year I was born.
And 2. They should've had Tuck & FDR saying "I'm not gay" to other characters as a running gag.
I think you should review more movies you bashed on Projector for Bad Movie Beatdown.
This movie makes me wonder if Chelsea handler really ever was funny to begin with. Also when her car crashed, that should have happened to the dumbass who greenlit this shitty movie.
My god. This movie did worse than Ghost Rider 2. This is not a good sign
You share a them song with WWE SummerSlam 2008 lol
Lauren likes 60s & 70s Hitchcock because that's his spy movie era and this is supposed to be a spy movie. To be fair, this is a better spy movie than Hitchcock's ones.
How awful that these actors were roped into a rom-com just because studios noticed women think Tom Hardy and Chris Pine are attractive. I love Tom in most anything (not only is he just sooo nice to look at but his acting is great) but THIS was just another underwhelming attempt to get female audiences into the theater. It's insulting. Why always the predictable and formulaic rom-com tropes? We can all appreciate well written films with interesting and refreshing plots. The hotties are just cherry on top.
Man till schwieger is such a great actor.
LoL Kidding
Damn it Til Schweiger! Stop appearing in crappy movies!
You pay now!
Oh...McG if you ever review terminator salvation I look forward to you tearing him a new one
It wasn't even that bad
did this come out before or after star trek? what with the "cruise ship captain" joke there...
After. I think that was meant to be a small nod.
I like the British I think there well meaning.
I liked Topaz😉
Who gave Tom Hardy instructions on how to hug a child?
Just skip this movie and watch the music video to Same Girl by Usher and R Kelly
Tom hardy was the only reason I watched this movie and was the likable person to
Romantic comedies done right are great and I speak as a man. But they stopped being romantic or even comedic. Modern romantic comedies are neither. This Means War not only sucks but sadly wastes serious talent here. How do you waste Chris Pine, Reese Witherspoon and Tom Hardy so badly?
I always confused David koechner with Larry Miller
Frankie Nolan they do look alike.
OMG how cute was Tom Hardy way back when😂😂
He doesn’t look that much different from how he looks now, just older
Matthew, now Tom Hardy has returned to 'comedy' with Venom, would you do a Bad Movie Beatdown on that?
But at least Tom looked like he was having fun in that film.
Can you look at a Dinosaur Movie call baby secret of the lost legend PS can you look at Godzilla Planet of the Monsters ?
Holy shit, I'm not the only person who remembers Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend??
Come on Tom Hardy. You're Venom now. Show some dignity for God's sake.
Dude a chevy suburban is not a fan of is a suv before that it was a truck. And how do you screw up a cgi model of a suburban. The truck model switch from a suburban to a tahoe how do you fuck that up.
in anime girl try fight over guy is funny
but not this hmm
Still better than Mattel v fans
I prefer the song by Nickelback, it's so much cooler. And I like Tom Hardy but I will not be seeing this one, ever!
This made my list of worst movies of 2012
What I can't stand is most of Chelsea's shtick, she's amazing doing standup.
The Parallel Nexus Really?
Tommy Deonauth's Archives yeah, but then that is just my opinion :)
Chelsea can be funny in small doses, but she's clearly sidekick material at best.
This is my favourite movie. Why would you do such a thing? It's all in good fun, and it has everything required of a good movie: Sex, romance, action, comedy and Reece Witherspoon. A little something for everyone as a matter of fact.
I don’t want to take away your enjoyment of the film, but I personally found the movie to be an unfunny, sexist, tonally inconsistent, tediously boring, obnoxious waste of talented actors, misusing CIA equipment for stalking and invading privacy is portrayed as “romantic”, as opposed to y’know, fucking disturbing. Besides, if you genuinely liked the film, what did you think of the characters and story, outside of vague stock phrases like comedy, and romance?
@@thesapphireone To be fair, I wrote that comment a month ago. My taste in movies has changed a lot since then, and I don't think this particular one is especially great anymore!
Top 5 dumbest movie premises of all time.
god even polyamory couldn’t save this movie
This movie is a guilty pleasure. Its stupid and ridiculous, but fun.
yeah i love it, it's just something to watch in the background or something, also it has tom hardy and chris pine
Mcg should stick to music videos than films. Rob Zombie is a better director than he is!
I'd just like to say that, while *most* spies are unassuming, being a very attractive and noticeable charismatic person who tries to pick people up at the bars is actually *exactly* what one specific type of professional spy does....makes this movie, James Bond, etc a lot more interesting when you realize they are they are probably "honey-trap" spies, aka people who build "relationships" (usually sexual) with their targets in order to lure their targets into giving them intel. In that case, these spies make total sense. Them focusing on sleeping with so many young, attractive women however, still does not...
Promiscuity among spies is actually the norm. Intel types that get deployed in the field have very high levels of fooling around. So much so most have open marriages.
Great cast. Terrible movie.
This is the movie I use to prove that venom is probably going to suck..,..HARD!!
You were wrong.
Congratulations you're a prophet - Doctor Strange
I personally would choose an action movie over a lame romance movie. They're all the same and so boring. If I'm going to pay to see a movie in theaters I want to see shit blowing up.
SALshaNoma well I can see your iq is in the single digits
Good lord just write a good film and cast black actors without writing that terrible fake urban slang they like to think all black people use.
Mcg is a horrible director.
No he's not.
He went on to direct The babysitter.
@@scottylewis8124 I meant to say he’s not my favorite Director, I’m sorry he’s not a bad Director
@@devinharbert6071 hehe.
For every Steven Spielberg, there's always an Uwe Boll.
Tom Hardy I actually think is gay.....I love the guy that shit doesn't affect how I see him.....but I get the gay vibes from him
You’re a weirdo
Chelsea Handler is NOT funny! Stay away from comedies!
She's a female Rob Schneider.